WEBVTT - A Free Love Queen with Hannah Einbinder 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:02.520 Hi, Hi Chelsea, how are you? 0:00:02.560 --> 0:00:06.440 Ah Well, I'm fresh off of colonoscopy. I did the prep. 0:00:06.559 --> 0:00:09.520 I've rescheduled this thing five times in my life because 0:00:09.560 --> 0:00:11.440 I did not want anyone going inside my asshole. 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:12.960 This isn't your first one, this is. 0:00:12.920 --> 0:00:14.320 My first klonoscopy, no way. 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:17.560 Yeah, because I tried to outsmart them and they gave 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:19.960 me another option. I had to give a like stool 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:22.760 sample once, which is humiliating in its own right. I mean, 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:25.759 that is so embarrassing, shitting into a basket or a bucket, 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:27.680 or they gave me like a container that you would 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:29.920 put French fries in, and we're like, take a shadubi 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:32.720 in this. I'm like, oh my god, I'm making me sick, 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:35.760 so sick, And then they write on the instructions like 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:37.239 if you find any worms. 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:39.879 I'm like, what any worms? I'm going to the hospital. 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:42.160 I'm not fucking sampling it out, and then it puts 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:45.440 so gross. I'm so sorry to start the podcast like this, 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:47.600 but this is what my life has been like. So 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:50.400 I did the prep and I didn't like, I wanted 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:52.919 to avoid that fluid, gross liquid. 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:54.200 Did you do one? Yeah? 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:56.080 I just wanted to make sure everything was fine because 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:57.400 a relative had had some polyps. 0:00:57.440 --> 0:00:58.720 I was like, well, I'm just gonna checked out. I 0:00:58.760 --> 0:00:59.640 was clean as a whistle. 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:02.240 But my prep was just like they were like add 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:03.920 mirror was it miralex? 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:04.600 Anyway, whatever. 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:07.479 I added one of those right to your gatorade. 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:08.600 So it was just gatorade. 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:09.080 That's all. 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:09.640 It tasted like. 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:11.680 It was great. Oh okay, I mean it was fine. 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:13.200 Yeah, that's not bad. 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:13.560 No. 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:16.679 I took pills, so the schedule was very annoying. You 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:18.520 eat a light breakfast and then you don't drink anything 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:20.960 except clear liquids or actually they don't have to be clear. 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:23.640 You can have like you know, gatorade or lemonade, which 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:26.640 is what I drink. And I took the pills from 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:28.960 five to six you take like twelve pills. Every five minutes, 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:30.880 you take a pill, and then from one am then 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:33.040 I sent my alarm. From one am to two am, 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:35.160 I had to take the other set of pills. And 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:37.280 then I just started urinating out of my ass and 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:39.360 like I was like, okay, great, great for great, And 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:40.399 then I went in at five. 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:41.240 Thirty in the morning. 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:43.200 I got there, of course an hour early, because I 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:45.560 couldn't have been sleeping during that time. I have to 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:47.760 fucking get everywhere early like an asshole. They weren't even 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:49.680 open when I got there. I was like knocking on 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:51.720 the door. I'm like, oh, I'm here, like no one else. 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:54.640 The doctor's not here, No one's here. Anyway, it wasn't 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:57.360 the prep that was bad. It was the aftermath because 0:01:57.360 --> 0:01:59.040 then I had a green smoothie and. 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:00.840 I had a bit of an accident. 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:05.760 So yeah, I mean, I am glad that is over, 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:11.200 but everything is ready for the weekend. Our whole clean 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:13.680 shoot happening fantastic. 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:15.760 Well that leads us to our guest today. Oh yes, 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:16.959 Hannah Einbinder. 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:19.840 Oh my gosh, Hannah is here. She received an Emmy 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:22.359 nomination for her role on Hacks. Her new one hour 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:25.359 special is on Max. Also in addition to Hacks being 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:29.120 on Max. This is not a poem. It's called Everything 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:35.480 Must Go Right Yep. Okay, yeah, please welcome Hannah Einbinder. Okay, 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:39.520 we're here with my darling friend, Hannah Einbinder. It's so 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:40.880 nice to see you in the flesh. 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:43.440 I know it's been since the last tour. 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:45.760 I think I know we had Hannah and I toured 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:48.880 together she opened for me for a series of dates, 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:51.280 that's right, and we had some good stories. 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:53.840 You have never been on this podcast before. I think so, 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:56.720 because remember when we were in where were we Denver? 0:02:57.200 --> 0:02:59.320 It was Denver altitude. 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:00.720 She got out judism. 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:04.640 She suffered from altitudinism, which I call Judaism's right, but 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:09.680 that's she. We were in Denver, which obviously is not 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:14.240 at sea level. There's an altitude there, and right before 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:16.400 we I think we had two shows in one night, right. 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:17.160 I did the first show. 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:20.040 Oh you did, Okay? 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:21.119 I did the first show. 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:23.720 I'm so long winded on stage, like I am really 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:27.480 packing every amount of words you can into every sentence. 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:31.120 And so even on even at sea level, I have 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:34.480 trouble catching my breath when I'm speaking. Yes, So it 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:37.720 was like training with like fucking crazy ankle. 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:40.280 I could not catch my breath, breathe. 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:42.200 And she came off stage and she was winded, and 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:46.440 she looked pallid weak. She looked weak, and so we 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:47.160 had to get her. 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:50.840 An oxygen tank. That's her oxygen backstage, which happens to 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:51.440 a lot of people. 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:53.360 Actually, they had it ready and then we had to 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:56.960 call around Denver to go and find an opener for 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:59.120 me because she couldn't get back up. She had to 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:03.400 lay down down, just lay down. After I give so 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:07.000 much shit to people about it. Anyway, she recovered, thankfully. 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:07.560 That's right. 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:10.360 But I had seen her special before her special came out, 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:14.000 which is called Everything Must Go. So I was exposed 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:16.240 to Hannah before a lot of people were exposed to you. 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:18.600 So I consider that a Jewish blessing. 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:22.839 That's right. And I consider you a hipster for that. 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:24.120 Exactly. 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:27.040 And then right right after we started, or some sometime 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:29.520 after you started, you were on Hacks. You started, you 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:32.400 got that show, and then everyone started to find out 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:35.240 who you were. And I want to talk about that 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:37.919 because I know you had a little trouble adjusting to 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:40.359 the attention that you were getting from the show and 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:43.400 then becoming like a public figure, and you were so 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:47.200 passionate about stand up, and I felt initially, and tell 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:48.960 me if I'm wrong or right, that you had some 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:52.520 reservations about being so public facing all of the. 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:56.279 Sudden, all of us a sudden, Oh my god, dominated. 0:04:55.839 --> 0:05:00.159 It's because my hip you know, start saying anyways, I. 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:01.520 Think that's I think that's right. 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:05.200 I think if you're in your head as is you 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:07.440 have to calm yourself down, being like no one's worried 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:09.640 about you, no one's thinking about you, no one's looking 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:11.839 at you. Relax, And it's like, well, that's kind of 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:14.120 not really totally true anymore, is it. It's like kind 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:16.120 of your anxious fears come to life a little bit. 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:18.560 It's look I and complain and it's a it's a 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:21.520 product of the greatest fortune a person can have in 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:22.200 our business. 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:25.920 But yeah, I don't think it's natural at all, Right. 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:29.440 And what did you find bothersome the attention or when 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:33.000 you heard negative attention, was there a certain aspect that 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:34.280 was more troubling than another? 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:35.960 Just being perceived? 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:40.159 I think like in a massive way, I feel lucky 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:43.240 that mostly it's positive. Folks who like the show come 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:44.599 up and they're very sweet. 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:45.960 Like I mean it's a very positive show. 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:48.920 Yeah, Like I really got about as lucky as you can, 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:51.880 I think. But but yeah, I think just kind of 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:55.160 being having sort of like too much awareness of myself 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:59.040 and maybe like instead of seeing myself this way, like 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:03.039 seeing myself this way and kind of having an outside, 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:06.520 sort of Truman Show esque view of my own kind. 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:09.480 Of seeing yourself for our listeners who probably aren't watching 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:12.320 this but just made a gesticulation about being You're basically 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:15.240 saying seeing yourself through the lens of other people, all right. 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:17.520 Yeah a little bit, which is strange, I think, especially 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:20.119 for an artist who needs to kind of like curb 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:23.280 that in order to maintain like a pure perspective. 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:25.840 I think, you know, Yeah, so how did you deal 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:26.200 with it? 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:29.080 I think I'm still dealing I think, but I'm a 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:32.159 very like insular person. I kind of like have very 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:34.279 few close friends that I see all the time, and 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:36.480 so I just kind of like keep my world small 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:39.159 and a lot of my my lovely people in my 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:41.960 life keep me very grounded and tethered, and you know, 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:43.719 they're keeping me on it. 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:45.800 So yeah, I do what I can, you know. 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:48.960 And yeah, I'm just thinking about myself when I was 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:51.840 your age, and like how I dealt with that stuff. 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:55.000 And I think I probably have like the opposite personality 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:55.520 that you do. 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:57.800 You know, like anxiety. 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:00.200 I don't think I think I've experienced anxiety until in 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:02.080 my forties. Like I didn't even know what people were 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:04.200 talking about. I wanted to be empathetic, but I didn't 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:07.120 really understand what it meant. And what I've learned is 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:10.520 that it encapsulates so many things that everybody feels on 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:11.560 a daily basis. 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:12.480 So when you. 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:14.600 Say, or when I would say, I don't think I 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:18.000 suffer from anxiety, it's just that I didn't understand what 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:21.320 half of the things I was feeling were anxiety, right, 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:24.200 because I didn't really I thought anxious is like you know, 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:26.880 when you it almost is so stifling that you're not 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:28.920 able to do anything right, that you're not able to 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:31.320 push through it, and you're not able that it becomes 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:33.040 you become hamstrung. 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:34.480 What do you feel? 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:37.360 Were things that you thought were just like energy inside 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:40.400 of you that you now know are anxiety, like various. 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:43.280 Like like nerves, like being nervous and being anxious, like 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:45.600 knowing a date is coming up and a date to 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:48.040 do something, or you know, like that you have to 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:51.360 be somewhere, like having anxiety having nerves about it. But 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:56.240 I always understood it or framed it in my own 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:57.120 way that that. 0:07:57.200 --> 0:08:00.000 Was what happens, Like you're going to have nerves. 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:02.800 Who who wouldn't have nerves if you have a big 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:04.840 show coming up, or you're going to be on TV, 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:07.000 or you're going to be live like I had so 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:10.880 much nervous energy and that qualifies as anxiety, but I 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:12.640 didn't think of it that way at that time. 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:15.120 What do you feel like when you said, like in 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:17.280 your forties, when you kind of were like, oh, like 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:19.360 I'm loking into this, what do you attribute that to? 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:21.120 Like that awareness. 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:24.440 Therapy, okay, therapy and then realizing and having self awareness, 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:27.560 so like being able to understand how other people are 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:31.480 seeing me, whereas before that never crossed my mind, it 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:34.200 never bothered me at all, Like any negative feedback I 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:37.080 was fine with. I'm like, that's okay. What is this 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:40.240 a popularity contest? Like I'm already successful. I don't care 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:42.240 if you don't like me, like enough people, do you know, 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:44.880 Like I have that kind of bullish attitude about it, 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:47.199 which worked for me for a long time until it 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:47.920 stopped working. 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:49.440 Yeah, you know totally. 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:53.680 But you're much more quieter, and I would say more 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:59.040 delicate certainly. Yes, you're a little delicate flower a daisy. 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:02.000 If you tell me about your relationship with Jean. 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:06.319 Oh, I love her. She's fab I mean she's awesome. 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:09.800 Yeah, she and I really like I think you know, 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:12.280 people go like, how has your relationship evolved? Over the 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:15.800 course of the show and to me, like it has 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:19.880 deepened certainly, of course, but like the thing that is 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:22.319 inherent to our dynamic is that it was an instant 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:26.040 sort of electric connection. I feel like when we first 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:30.720 auditioned together, like I felt that energy from her and 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:34.160 so like it's awesome, Like we send each other memes 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:37.480 back and forth, like she's very silly and like just 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:40.640 really nurturing and like we joke about this all the 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:42.760 time about like you're my own personal dubber vants in 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:45.760 real life. But like I feel that from both of 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:49.160 you actually, where like you have always been so like 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:52.480 supportive of me and and in a way that is 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:56.439 not always the case. Like I think I think women 0:09:56.480 --> 0:09:58.840 have historically been pitted against each other and made to 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:01.200 feel like there's only roo for one and like we 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:04.560 should be competitive. And I have never felt anything other 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:08.360 than support and like nurturing from like both Gene and you, 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:11.960 and I feel like, I don't know, I feel like 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:15.800 she is one of several women in my life professionally 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:19.120 who just have like only ever loved and championed me, and. 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:20.400 It's it's really nice. 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:24.480 Well she's old school, yeah, yeah, And I think that's true. 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:26.720 I mean, obviously what you're saying about women is true. 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:29.240 I definitely experience that in my career, like a zero 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:31.960 sum game almost where there's not room for everyone, and 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:34.280 you're like, what are you talking about. There's room for everyone. 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:38.040 The tide rises, everyone rises with the tide. Yeah, unless 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:42.600 you can't fucking swim. But but I think because it's 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:44.920 such a nice lesson for you at this stage in 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:47.760 your career also of how you want to treat other 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:51.040 people by being treated in a certain way right, you know, 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:55.120 and being in such a lucky situation like you're on 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:58.199 the show right now and you don't know what your 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:00.920 next show is going to be, or your next or whatever, 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:03.480 you know, and you don't know how fortunate you are 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:05.720 sometimes until those situations are gone. 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:07.600 So you have to really lap it up. 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:09.760 Yeah, because you'll hear about these wonderful stories, you know, 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:11.400 people on the set of Friends, look at all of 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:13.120 them and how great of a time they had for 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:15.200 so many years, and then they go onto different sets 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:17.360 and there's different dynamics and you're like, oh, wait, that 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:19.640 was really And to have that at the front of 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:22.559 your career can be a hard comparison. 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:24.320 Yes, right as you move forward. 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:26.960 I think about that a lot, you know, just like 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:30.000 in you know, it's very rare that the quality of 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:32.679 the work and the quality of the people line up 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:36.200 across the board, like there really is no bad egg. 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:38.719 In the bunch on Hacks. It would be obviously the 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:42.640 thrill of a lifetime to like continue to have those 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:46.480 like quality you know, relationships on a quality show where 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:49.880 you're making something you're proud of. But I am starting 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:53.520 to kind of face the reality that maybe that's going 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:57.400 to be hard to yeah, maintain. But it's my hope. 0:11:57.559 --> 0:11:59.280 I mean, I hope. I feel like a kind of 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:02.120 a conflict of person. I feel like growing up in 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:05.400 LA I feel like you grow up alongside a lot 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:07.600 of interesting personalities and so you kind of figure out 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:11.960 how to navigate that. And like, I definitely feel like 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:14.800 I'm good with people, and so it's my hope that 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:17.800 even the craziest people I come across, I'll be able 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:22.520 to like maybe handle. But yeah, I have really no 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:24.480 no experience with that just yet. 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:26.560 So we'll see. I'll talk to you after that happens. 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:29.480 I guess, well, you've also been very therapized. That's when 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:30.520 I say that in a good way. 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:30.840 Yeah. 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:33.560 I mean that's one good thing about growing up in LA. 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:34.000 Yeah. 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:37.040 You have to go to therapy. 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:40.880 Since fifteen, which is amazing. What's your therapy situation now? 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:42.360 Is it a new therapist? Have you kept one for 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:43.400 a long period of time. 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:46.160 I'm with my same therapist since you were fifteen, since 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:46.559 I was. 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:50.400 Fifteen, Yeah, which and there are obviously, you know, conflicting 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:51.800 opinions on whether. 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:52.400 That's good or not. 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:57.760 But I feel like she is so such a wonderful 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:02.160 witness to like absolutely everything, and so she can really 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:08.479 analyze what is needed and like understands the greater context, 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:11.600 and she challenges me, which is what brought me here today. 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:14.280 I think, you know, just to where I'm at. Her 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:17.760 challenging me has always been a source of art dynamic 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:20.840 and I welcome it. I'm really like interested in that. 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:22.640 And who else do you find in your life that 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:24.040 challenges you? Mmmmm? 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:26.000 I think my friends. 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:29.120 I think like my core group of girlfriends, Like I 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:31.600 have a friend from high school, a friend from college, 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:35.200 and like several friends from after, like from the comedy scene, 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:40.440 who like just have known me since before my life shifted, 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:45.040 and I am always seeking honest feedback and I feel 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:46.800 like I can tell even if they don't want to 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:49.040 like say anything on their face, like if they're not 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:51.600 really like down with some shit I'm doing or saying, 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:53.599 or like don't approve of some decision, you know what 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:55.960 I mean, Like I do seek that out. 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:59.880 Yeah, I mean, it's very difficult to have honest relationships 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:04.200 with people in this industry. I mean you can think 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:06.920 of like five people who are in the media right 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:09.760 now NonStop, and it's like, clearly no one's telling them 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:13.920 the truth because you wouldn't be so out and open, 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:16.040 like you know, you need people to tell you. And 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:18.400 it's very difficult because like even when I think, oh, 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:20.040 I think about all the people in my life that'll 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:22.520 be honest with me, and it's like yeah, if you 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:24.600 really press them to me, yeah, yeah, you have to 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:26.960 be like no, you have to fucking tell me the truth. Yeah, 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:29.720 because most people don't want their conflict averse too. 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:30.680 Yeah. Yeah. 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:32.760 Well, and there was a storyline about that in Hacks 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:35.600 this season with the yellow Dress, where it's like everybody. 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:36.120 Wants to be the s man. 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:39.160 Yeah, that's right, that's right, And that's I mean, I 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:41.440 think that's why like those two women bond because it's 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:43.680 the first person that has ever told Debra what she 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:44.760 actually thinks, you know. 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:47.560 Yeah, that's such an interesting dynamic. So when you put 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:50.840 out your special Everything Must Go, which came out a 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:53.560 few months ago, how did that feel, because that was 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:57.560 your first stand up special, showing people your style of comedy. Yeah, 0:14:57.600 --> 0:14:59.440 and I've heard you describe it as filmic. 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:01.160 Yeah, yeah, it was. 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:03.360 Yeah, I was really look. 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:05.520 I mean that that material I had been working on 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:08.720 for so long, and it felt like I really had 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:13.640 the time, which is such an incredible currency to have. 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:17.920 Acting gave me the time to really fine tune my 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:21.400 stand up, which was, you know, my only aspiration when 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:25.160 I started performing, Like, I didn't think of a world 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:28.320 beyond stand up, Like that's really what I wanted to 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:32.160 do completely, And so having the time to like really 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:35.600 fine tune and perfect it by the time we put 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:38.560 it out, I was so I felt so ready and 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:41.720 proud of it and so clear on what I wanted 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:46.480 it to be. And it's certainly vulnerable, but I feel 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:51.280 like just everything that I have, all of the feedback 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:53.800 that I have gotten over the years, gave me the 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:56.720 confidence to be like, I'm proud of this and I 0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:59.640 know that it will confuse some people and it's not 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:03.120 going to be for some people, But I'm cool with 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:05.680 it being very much for the people that it is for, 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:06.400 you know what I mean. 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:10.640 Yeah, Well, she has a very great commitment to letting 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:14.360 a joke move slowly, which I love. I have a 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:16.760 lot of respect for that because you know, any if 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:19.479 you're a comedian, you're trying to get to a punchline, 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:23.000 and some people cannot handle not making an audience laugh 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:25.520 for more than thirty seconds. You know, the quiet is 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:28.240 just like nerve wracking to people. I've watched it, I've 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:31.680 lived it. Yeah, but yeah, it was great watching that 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:33.240 when you were working on it before. 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:35.680 You're special to see that her commitment to that. 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:38.360 It's a style of comedy that you have to be 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:40.480 committed to and unwavering. 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:44.600 Yeah, I feel like I cultivated that, just like by 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:47.800 pushing it. I don't know that I was always like that, 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:51.800 but like the more audiences gave me credit, the more 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:54.920 I was just like, you know, I'm gonna pause even longer, 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:57.440 and like it's that thing of like you know, where 0:16:57.440 --> 0:16:59.680 it's like it's funny and then it stops being funny 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:01.760 and it gets funny again because it's like you can't 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:05.439 understand how it's continuing to go on. Like I'm actually 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:08.879 like really comfortable in that, And yeah, it's fun to 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:12.560 cultivate like a style unbeknownst to yourself, to just kind 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:14.040 of happen upon it and go, oh, this is an 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:14.600 interesting Well. 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:16.720 I think it mimics your personality a lot too. 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:17.200 Yeah. 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:20.680 Yeah, quiet, but you have lots to say, but you're 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:21.280 not loud. 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:22.480 Yeah, and you're not. 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:25.600 In anyone's face. So I think it's a perfect compliment 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:27.560 to who you are as a person. Thank you, which 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:29.200 is what you want your stand up to be because 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:29.960 it's your POV. 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:30.800 Yeah. 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:31.399 Yeah. 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:33.439 I feel like when I got into stand up, like 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:38.760 I was trying to present this aspirational version of like 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:42.119 who I wanted to be, like this very confident, cool, 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:43.919