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Speaker 1: Hi, Hi Chelsea, how are you?

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Speaker 2: Ah Well, I'm fresh off of colonoscopy. I did the prep.

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Speaker 3: I've rescheduled this thing five times in my life because

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Speaker 3: I did not want anyone going inside my asshole.

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Speaker 1: This isn't your first one, this is.

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Speaker 2: My first klonoscopy, no way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I tried to outsmart them and they gave

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Speaker 3: me another option. I had to give a like stool

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Speaker 3: sample once, which is humiliating in its own right. I mean,

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Speaker 3: that is so embarrassing, shitting into a basket or a bucket,

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Speaker 3: or they gave me like a container that you would

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Speaker 3: in this. I'm like, oh my god, I'm making me sick,

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Speaker 3: so sick, And then they write on the instructions like

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Speaker 3: if you find any worms.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, what any worms? I'm going to the hospital.

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Speaker 3: I'm not fucking sampling it out, and then it puts

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Speaker 3: so gross. I'm so sorry to start the podcast like this,

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Speaker 3: but this is what my life has been like. So

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Speaker 3: I did the prep and I didn't like, I wanted

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Speaker 2: Did you do one? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I just wanted to make sure everything was fine because

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Speaker 4: a relative had had some polyps.

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Speaker 1: I was like, well, I'm just gonna checked out. I

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Speaker 4: But my prep was just like they were like add

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Speaker 4: mirror was it miralex?

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Speaker 1: Anyway, whatever.

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Speaker 4: I added one of those right to your gatorade.

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Speaker 2: So it was just gatorade.

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Speaker 5: That's all.

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Speaker 2: It tasted like.

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Speaker 1: It was great. Oh okay, I mean it was fine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not bad.

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Speaker 3: I took pills, so the schedule was very annoying. You

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Speaker 3: is what I drink. And I took the pills from

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Speaker 3: five to six you take like twelve pills. Every five minutes,

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Speaker 3: I sent my alarm. From one am to two am,

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Speaker 3: I had to take the other set of pills. And

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Speaker 3: then I just started urinating out of my ass and

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Speaker 2: Thirty in the morning.

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Speaker 3: I got there, of course an hour early, because I

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Speaker 3: The doctor's not here, No one's here. Anyway, it wasn't

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Speaker 3: then I had a green smoothie and.

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Speaker 2: I had a bit of an accident.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, I am glad that is over,

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Speaker 3: but everything is ready for the weekend. Our whole clean

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Speaker 1: Well that leads us to our guest today. Oh yes,

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Speaker 1: Hannah Einbinder.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Hannah is here. She received an Emmy

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Speaker 3: nomination for her role on Hacks. Her new one hour

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Speaker 3: special is on Max. Also in addition to Hacks being

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Speaker 3: on Max. This is not a poem. It's called Everything

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Speaker 3: Must Go Right Yep. Okay, yeah, please welcome Hannah Einbinder. Okay,

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Speaker 3: we're here with my darling friend, Hannah Einbinder. It's so

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Speaker 3: nice to see you in the flesh.

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Speaker 1: I know it's been since the last tour.

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Speaker 3: I think I know we had Hannah and I toured

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Speaker 3: together she opened for me for a series of dates,

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Speaker 3: that's right, and we had some good stories.

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Speaker 2: You have never been on this podcast before. I think so,

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Speaker 2: because remember when we were in where were we Denver?

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Speaker 1: It was Denver altitude.

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Speaker 2: She got out judism.

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Speaker 3: She suffered from altitudinism, which I call Judaism's right, but

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Speaker 3: that's she. We were in Denver, which obviously is not

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Speaker 3: we I think we had two shows in one night, right.

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Speaker 1: I did the first show.

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Speaker 2: Oh you did, Okay?

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Speaker 1: I did the first show.

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Speaker 7: I'm so long winded on stage, like I am really

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Speaker 7: And so even on even at sea level, I have

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Speaker 7: trouble catching my breath when I'm speaking. Yes, So it

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Speaker 7: was like training with like fucking crazy ankle.

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Speaker 1: I could not catch my breath, breathe.

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Speaker 3: And she came off stage and she was winded, and

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Speaker 3: she looked pallid weak. She looked weak, and so we

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Speaker 2: An oxygen tank. That's her oxygen backstage, which happens to

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Speaker 3: Actually, they had it ready and then we had to

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Speaker 3: much shit to people about it. Anyway, she recovered, thankfully.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 3: But I had seen her special before her special came out,

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Speaker 3: which is called Everything Must Go. So I was exposed

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Speaker 3: to Hannah before a lot of people were exposed to you.

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Speaker 2: So I consider that a Jewish blessing.

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Speaker 1: That's right. And I consider you a hipster for that.

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Speaker 3: And then right right after we started, or some sometime

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Speaker 3: got that show, and then everyone started to find out

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Speaker 3: who you were. And I want to talk about that

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Speaker 3: because I know you had a little trouble adjusting to

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Speaker 3: passionate about stand up, and I felt initially, and tell

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Speaker 2: Sudden, all of us a sudden, Oh my god, dominated.

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Speaker 3: It's because my hip you know, start saying anyways, I.

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Speaker 1: Think that's I think that's right.

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Speaker 7: I think if you're in your head as is you

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Speaker 7: have to calm yourself down, being like no one's worried

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Speaker 7: It's look I and complain and it's a it's a

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't think it's natural at all, Right.

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Speaker 3: And what did you find bothersome the attention or when

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Speaker 1: Just being perceived?

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Speaker 7: I think like in a massive way, I feel lucky

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Speaker 7: that mostly it's positive. Folks who like the show come

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Speaker 2: Like I mean it's a very positive show.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Like I really got about as lucky as you can,

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Speaker 7: I think. But but yeah, I think just kind of

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Speaker 3: Of seeing yourself for our listeners who probably aren't watching

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Speaker 3: saying seeing yourself through the lens of other people, all right.

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Speaker 3: And I think I probably have like the opposite personality

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Speaker 3: if you don't like me, like enough people, do you know,

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Speaker 3: Like I have that kind of bullish attitude about it,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know totally.

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Speaker 3: But you're much more quieter, and I would say more

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Speaker 3: delicate certainly. Yes, you're a little delicate flower a daisy.

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Speaker 3: If you tell me about your relationship with Jean.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I love her. She's fab I mean she's awesome.

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Speaker 3: I definitely experience that in my career, like a zero

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Speaker 2: Yes, right as you move forward.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I hope. I feel like a kind of

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Speaker 1: So we'll see. I'll talk to you after that happens.

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Speaker 3: I guess, well, you've also been very therapized. That's when

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Speaker 2: I mean that's one good thing about growing up in LA.

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Speaker 2: You have to go to therapy.

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Speaker 3: Since fifteen, which is amazing. What's your therapy situation now?

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Speaker 1: I'm with my same therapist since you were fifteen, since

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Speaker 7: But I feel like she is so such a wonderful

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Speaker 7: I think, you know, just to where I'm at. Her

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Speaker 2: And who else do you find in your life that

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Speaker 1: I think my friends.

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Speaker 7: I think like my core group of girlfriends, Like I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's very difficult to have honest relationships

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Speaker 3: because most people don't want their conflict averse too.

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Speaker 4: Well, and there was a storyline about that in Hacks

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right, that's right, And that's I mean, I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's such an interesting dynamic. So when you put

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Speaker 3: and I've heard you describe it as filmic.

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Speaker 7: it to be. And it's certainly vulnerable, but I feel

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, she has a very great commitment to letting

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Speaker 2: You're special to see that her commitment to that.

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Speaker 3: It's a style of comedy that you have to be

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel like I cultivated that, just like by

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Speaker 2: I think it mimics your personality a lot too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, quiet, but you have lots to say, but you're

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're not.

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Speaker 3: In anyone's face. So I think it's a perfect compliment

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Speaker 3: to who you are as a person. Thank you, which

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Speaker 7: I feel like when I got into stand up, like

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Speaker 1: And I feel like I grew into that through doing

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Speaker 7: Obviously the therapy of course, but like I really feel

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's it's interesting to talk to different

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Speaker 3: Like you know, you want to like you don't care

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Speaker 3: what it leads to. You just have to be on stage. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I've never been someone who has to be on stage.

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Speaker 3: I like everything that goes with it writing Like, I

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Speaker 3: And then you get to a place where you become

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Speaker 7: It is so interesting and cool to watch you work

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Speaker 7: Which is like so incredible and like it does speak

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Speaker 2: And yeah, you're like, yeah, in a process, you know.

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Speaker 3: And I consider myself a lazy performer. So it's funny

445
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Speaker 3: to hear you say that because there is a lot

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Speaker 3: of work that goes into it. But there's a difference

447
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Speaker 3: between work that comes naturally and there's a difference in

448
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Speaker 3: work that is not natural to you. And then it

449
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Speaker 3: does feel like work, yes, But writing is such an easy,

450
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Speaker 3: you know, avenue for me, and I feel like a

451
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Speaker 3: lot of comics feel that way.

452
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Speaker 2: But yeah, you can see comics do the.

453
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Speaker 3: Same act for like two years and you're like, oh

454
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Speaker 3: my god, how can you still tell those jokes? But

455
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Speaker 3: it is it's just a different style. Some people have

456
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Speaker 3: to repeat it, you know, enough times to get it. Like,

457
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Speaker 3: I'm on tour right now, and this is the longest

458
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Speaker 3: tour I've done for a set, and I've already moved

459
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Speaker 3: on to new material. I haven't taped to my special yet.

460
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Speaker 3: I tape it in November. But I'm like, oh no, okay,

461
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Speaker 3: now I have to start thinking about the next hour.

462
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Speaker 3: I already got this done, you know. And so I'm like,

463
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Speaker 3: oh wow. The more you're on stage, obviously, the more

464
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Speaker 3: you're writing, the more comfortable you are, the more confident

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Speaker 3: you are in what you're doing. Like I don't have

466
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Speaker 3: to try out bits anymore, you know what I mean,

467
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Speaker 3: I know if something's gonna work.

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Speaker 7: My god, jealous, I may one day.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 3: It's so funny when like when she started that show

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Speaker 3: and when she started Hawks, which we had Paul T.

472
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Speaker 3: Downs on a few months ago, who was so fucking

473
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Speaker 3: funny Paul T. Downs Well, I called I've renamed him

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Speaker 3: Paul W.

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Speaker 2: Downs.

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Speaker 3: It was it was like life imitating art. I'm like,

477
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Speaker 3: oh my god. And she's like we were flying on

478
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Speaker 3: a private plane once and we sent the picture to

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Speaker 3: her her producers because they well, I don't fly privately

480
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Speaker 3: a lot anymore. I just want to put that on

481
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Speaker 3: the record because that's fucking true. I've been very good

482
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Speaker 3: about that. But we were talking about like art imitation.

483
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Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, I think I am a

484
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Speaker 3: version of Debora Vance. And then I was like, wait, no,

485
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Speaker 3: that's too that's too old for me. And I was like, no, no, wait,

486
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Speaker 3: I fucking like that, you know. And now I'm doing

487
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Speaker 3: a Vegas residency. I'm not living in Vegas. I will

488
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Speaker 3: never live in Vegas.

489
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Speaker 1: What is what is the travel schedule?

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Speaker 3: I literally fly in and either fly back that night

491
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Speaker 3: or spend the night with a group of friends, and

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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 1: Of it is it just weekends.

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Speaker 3: It's it's like holiday. It's once a month for like

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Speaker 3: the next two years.

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Speaker 2: Fab Yeah, yeah, once a month for the next two years.

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Speaker 3: That's the kind of commitment I'm looking for, exactly.

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Speaker 1: Across the board.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Okay, I'm not Now, we're going to take a

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Speaker 3: break and we're going to come back and we're going

501
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Speaker 3: to take callers and we're gonna give them advice.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna love it. It's so cute.

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Speaker 4: Okay, this week right, And if you have questions about fitness,

504
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Speaker 4: it could be something specific you're dealing with and your

505
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Speaker 4: fitness routine, how to maintain your motivation or get started

506
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Speaker 4: with a new routine, or questions you have on a

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Speaker 4: deeper level about your physical health and fitness. Right into

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Speaker 4: Dear Chelsea podcast at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 2: And we're back. We've had a finder, Hannah.

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Speaker 4: We have some real special ones for you today. This

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Speaker 4: one specifically, I was really excited to find for you. Okay,

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Speaker 4: our first question comes from Sam.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot of pressure you're putting on Hannah.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, shit, so Sam says Dear Chelsea.

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Speaker 4: Last year, I connected with a therapist and she helped

516
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Speaker 4: me make huge breakthroughs in several areas of my life

517
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Speaker 4: through hypnotherapy.

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Speaker 1: I was skeptical at first.

519
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Speaker 4: When I started, but after a few intense sessions where

520
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Speaker 4: I spoke to dead relatives and saw pieces of my

521
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Speaker 4: dreams unfold, I was sold.

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Speaker 2: I took a break after a while, as it's.

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Speaker 4: Out of pocket and I'm in graduate school full time

524
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Speaker 4: while already struggling to afford life after putting myself through

525
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Speaker 4: two other degrees to get where I am today. Recently,

526
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Speaker 4: I decided to leave a relationship and I reached back

527
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Speaker 4: out to the therapist. She suggested I do ketamine therapy

528
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Speaker 4: with her, something she's found helps a lot of her

529
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Speaker 4: clients and get to the point they want to be faster.

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Speaker 4: Although it's a lot of money upfront as insurance does

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Speaker 4: not reimburse most of it, she believes I will get

532
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Speaker 4: the results in a shorter amount of time. In some ways,

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Speaker 4: I'm totally for it, especially with ending this relationship, I

534
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Speaker 4: feel myself reverting to old patterns and want to heal.

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Speaker 4: I worry that it may be a lot of money

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Speaker 4: to try something new and potentially risky. Should I go

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Speaker 4: for it and hopefully finally heal from the parts of

538
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Speaker 4: me holding me back? Or should I play it safe

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Speaker 4: and continue to spend money on therapy I already can't afford.

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Speaker 4: Sam And of course, Panna, you talk about your therapist

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Speaker 4: suggesting hypnotherapy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, have you ever done ketamine therapy?

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Speaker 1: I have not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have never done it either, so it's really

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Speaker 3: hard for me to answer that question.

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Speaker 7: I know that it can be really positive. I've also

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Speaker 7: heard ketamine is tricky because, like it is a therapy drug,

548
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Speaker 7: but it's also used recreationally in a way that can

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Speaker 7: be like dangerous and not good.

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Speaker 2: So it's like that's when you cheve up your ass.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, totally.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it has massive therapeutic benefits, but I

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Speaker 7: mean it depends if you have to do six sessions.

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Speaker 7: I would say, maybe stick with the therapy, Like, I

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Speaker 7: think that's probably I think therapy is a great tool.

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Speaker 7: I think it's like a more consistent thing that you

557
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Speaker 7: can keep track with.

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Speaker 3: But I would say that also, everyone wants to fast

559
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Speaker 3: track their healing, yeah, and everyone wants a result.

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Speaker 2: And you don't have to explain that to me.

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Speaker 3: I'm the most impatient person in the world, So I

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Speaker 3: understand how you want to kind of fast forward to

563
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Speaker 3: the better results. But if it's something that's really not

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Speaker 3: affordable to you in this moment, it's going to be

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Speaker 3: available and it's only going to get better, you know.

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Speaker 3: So I would be very consistent with your therapy because

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Speaker 3: that yields the most concrete results overall for most people.

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Speaker 3: So as long as you keep going, you have to

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Speaker 3: have a conversation and dialogue with yourself, I think to

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Speaker 3: know that you're always moving in the right direction, Like

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Speaker 3: every time you go to therapy, you're taking a step

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Speaker 3: in the right direction. Even if it feels like you're

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Speaker 3: taking two steps back. That's part of your therapy process

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Speaker 3: is making progress and then falling back or screwing up,

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Speaker 3: and then making progress again, and then actually, you know,

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Speaker 3: the mistakes become fewer and.

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Speaker 2: Your slip ups become fewer.

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Speaker 3: But you have to look at it as like a

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Speaker 3: grand net of what it's yielding. And that doesn't happen

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Speaker 3: in six months or a year, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: You make little changes along the way and then all

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Speaker 3: of a sudden things start to click and then you're

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Speaker 3: really making changes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, did you try hypnotherapy when your therapist suggests?

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Speaker 3: I didn't that suggestion just like from the therapist that

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Speaker 3: you're seeing now.

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Speaker 2: And so she's seen your stand up because you say

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Speaker 2: that in your.

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Speaker 7: Special she she and I have She's you know what

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Speaker 7: is I'm realizing now. She asked me if it was

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Speaker 7: cool if she watched it, and I said yes, but

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Speaker 7: we haven't talked about it after.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it was her suggestion, so she's going

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Speaker 2: to have to take I told her.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I want you to know I do

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Speaker 1: have a joke about yet, so just saying you.

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Speaker 3: Know, and she was like, okay, I went to hypnotherapy

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Speaker 3: only for smoking cigarettes and that worked for about eight years.

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Speaker 2: But that was like, I mean, it was therapisting.

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Speaker 3: But he basically it's Carrie Gator and he basically berates

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Speaker 3: you for half an hour, telling you how disgusting you

602
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Speaker 3: are for smoking and that you're like, basically I'm co

603
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Speaker 3: coal miner breathing intoxins and and you're like I'm disgusted

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Speaker 3: by myself at this point too.

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Speaker 6: Wow.

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Speaker 3: So and then that he hypnotizes you, but you're not

607
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Speaker 3: under under, you know, it's just like suggest I don't

608
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Speaker 3: think hypnosis is what people think it means, right, Like,

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Speaker 3: it's almost like you're lightly under and you're just a.

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Speaker 2: Little bit more open to yeah, you know suggestion.

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Speaker 1: Your eyes aren't spirals.

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Speaker 7: There's no clock right right, Yeah, really sort of warped

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Speaker 7: of hypnosis, right exactly.

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Speaker 3: So I think our advice to you is stick with

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Speaker 3: the therapy is the most important thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and maybe also, you know, if hypnotherapy is a

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Speaker 4: little too expensive, maybe find like a group that is

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Speaker 4: less expensive or you know, free option, sliding scale sort

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Speaker 4: of thing.

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Speaker 3: It would be better to do hypnotherapy with a group. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: Quite frankly, that a lot more fun. Yeah, because then

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Speaker 3: you can see it in action.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 3: I always likes to see things before they happened to me. Yeah,

625
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 3: see them happened to other people.

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Speaker 8: Well.

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Speaker 4: Our next question comes from Libby. She has threutle problems.

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Speaker 4: She says, loves I agree, so she says, your Chelsea storytime.

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Speaker 4: I'm a twenty four year old woman and I'm part

630
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Speaker 4: of a threufle. When I met my two partners almost

631
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Speaker 4: three years ago, we were really just hanging out and

632
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Speaker 4: hooking up. My girlfriend and I soon fell in love

633
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Speaker 4: and decided we should all be together. A couple months in,

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Speaker 4: our boyfriend and helpful note is that her girlfriend and

635
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 4: her boyfriend were together for several years before they got

636
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Speaker 4: to Yes. A couple months in, our boyfriend just stopped

637
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 4: trying to engage in any kind of sexual activity with

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Speaker 4: her girlfriend and me, no matter how hard we try

639
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 4: to entice him. He was the furthest thing from interested.

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00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 4: I soon discovered this has been an ongoing problem and

641
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Speaker 4: basically every adult relationship he's ever had. He and I

642
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 4: are with managers for the same company. A couple weeks ago,

643
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,959
Speaker 4: he transferred back to a store in which he notoriously

644
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 4: flirted with women he worked with there. It was a

645
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 4: point of contention in our thruple for a long time.

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Speaker 4: The same week, he told us that he was not

647
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Speaker 4: interested in having sex with either one of us or

648
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Speaker 4: quote anyone else. He said he thinks it would be

649
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 4: best if we found another guy to hook up with. Basically,

650
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 4: he wants to be roomates. He would give each other

651
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 4: goodbye kisses and hang out at the end of the day.

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Speaker 4: He wants to be a family unit, but doesn't want

653
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Speaker 4: to do anything romantically. He also started staying after work

654
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Speaker 4: two to three hours after the store is closed. He

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Speaker 4: will not go to the doctor to try and figure

656
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Speaker 4: out his lack of libido. He refuses to go to therapy.

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00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 4: It's gotten to the point where he will even look

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00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 4: away if one of us is changing our clothes. It's

659
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 4: kind of weird to me that he seems fine with

660
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Speaker 4: us sleeping with another guy, so he doesn't have to

661
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Speaker 4: be bothered with it. Should we just accept being roommates

662
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Speaker 4: with him?

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Speaker 3: And he start yes, he's telling him he doesn't want

664
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Speaker 3: anything to do with you.

665
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Speaker 1: Yeah, what is the fucking question here? She's going to

666
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: join us here in a second.

667
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 2: Oh, she's Oh great, I can yell at her in person.

668
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it says is he a sexual?

669
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Speaker 2: Is he gay?

670
00:28:59,000 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: Is he hiding something?

671
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 4: What if we do sleep with another man and ours

672
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 4: suddenly decides he wants to sleep with someone else. I

673
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 4: have no clue how to go about this. There are

674
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 4: multitudes of men who would die for the chance to

675
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 4: have two hot, funny girlfriends.

676
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Speaker 1: Lebby liv Hi, Lebby.

677
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Speaker 5: Hi Libby, Hi, Hi. Everybody.

678
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 7: Wow, this is such a fun feature of this podcast.

679
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Speaker 3: Okay, so first of all, that's really funny because he's

680
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 3: telling you he wants nothing to do with you, and

681
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 3: you're trying to make him be a part of your throttle.

682
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 2: It's over.

683
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 6: Yes, I was afraid of that. I needed to find

684
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 6: out from the Queen herself.

685
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 7: I think that it's you guys can talk about what

686
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 7: it would be like transitioning if you really feel that

687
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 7: it's good to continue this attachment in a platonic way

688
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 7: with him in terms of the roommate arrangement. I think

689
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 7: if you guys can really be cool with that in

690
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 7: your heart, knowing that he is staying two to three

691
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 7: hours after work, and really being honest with yourself to

692
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 7: make peace with the fact that if he is, you know,

693
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 7: truly you know, messing around or doing whatever, that that's

694
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 7: not gonna affect your living situation. If the answer is no,

695
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 7: then I think the answer is no, and you guys

696
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 7: kind of move on from there.

697
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 3: It sounds like his move is to flirt if he

698
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 3: has no libido, You think he has a libido at

699
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 3: work and he's having sex with these other women. I

700
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 3: mean it's really neither here nor there, actually, but just

701
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 3: out of curiosity.

702
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 6: No, And that's the thing, Like, that's how he kind

703
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 6: of dreaming in when we met, because we met at

704
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 6: work coincidentally, and he was charming and he still is,

705
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 6: like he is a great guy. He's funny, he's flirty when.

706
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 5: He wants to be.

707
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 6: But I truly don't believe that he's actually going out

708
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 6: and having sex with other people. But it's just this

709
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 6: secretness and the need to sneak around that's confusing because

710
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 6: he was never like that in the past, and now

711
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 6: all of a sudden, this comes out that he has

712
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 6: no sexual interest in us, And now all of a sudden,

713
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 6: like the other night, he decided that he was.

714
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 5: Gonna go out after work, and that's.

715
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 6: No big deal, but I feel like with the way

716
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 6: the situation is right now, like that was just weird.

717
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 5: All of a sudden, he was.

718
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 6: Like, yeah, I'm gonna go out after work, and our

719
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 6: girlfriend was like, not that I care, but like, where

720
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 6: do you think you're gonna go?

721
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 5: And he was just like anywhere but here? Talking about work.

722
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 5: It was very.

723
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 6: Vague, and it was almost just like trying to be

724
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 6: mean and just trying to get a rise out of

725
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 6: the both of us.

726
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 7: I think you and your girls should skip down. I

727
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 7: think you guys start a new life. I think you

728
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 7: guys kind of I.

729
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 3: Think it's a wrap on this in this throuble, you know.

730
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 3: I mean, he couldn't be more plain about it. And

731
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 3: you know, when people are embarrassed or shameful, especially with

732
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 3: regard to their sexual performance, they will make it seem

733
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 3: like they have other things, you know, that they're drumming

734
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 3: up business elsewhere.

735
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 2: So he might just be doing that to.

736
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 3: Pretend like, oh no, he's not interest, especially if he's

737
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 3: being outwardly mean to you and being like anywhere but here.

738
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 3: Clearly you guys have done something that made him uncomfortable

739
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 3: or feel less than and so he's trying to to

740
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 3: make that very clear to you. I don't think you

741
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 3: should be trying to gather any more information from him.

742
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 6: Yes, And it's just so hard with to get him

743
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 6: to communicate at all because he is just so closed off.

744
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 6: And I could have a million conversations where I'm like,

745
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 6: you know, are you upset? Like I understand if you are,

746
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 6: that's very valid, and I just get a it's whatever.

747
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: I think.

748
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 7: Also, I could see it being within the realm of

749
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 7: possibilities that he may be threatened by the connection between

750
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 7: the two of you. You know, I think he had

751
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 7: this pre existing relationship with your girlfriend, and then kind

752
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 7: of like, I think the male ego is pretty fragile.

753
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 7: I don't want to make generalizations, but I think the

754
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 7: male ego can be fragile, and it's possible that he's

755
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 7: feeling threatened and that's not your labor and that's actually

756
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 7: not your guys' responsibility, and that's also not something that

757
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 7: anyone can heal but him.

758
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 6: Yes, And we have had those conversations as well, Like

759
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 6: my girlfriend has flat out said, like, is us being

760
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 6: together her and I a problem for you? Because at

761
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 6: the time she was like, I would rather work on

762
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 6: us if that's a problem. She's like, I love the

763
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 6: throttle of what we have, but it's a ten year relationship,

764
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 6: so if that's going to save it, then she would

765
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 6: be willing to like work on it. And he just says, no,

766
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 6: absolutely not, that's not fair to either one of you, Like,

767
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 6: I love her too, why would I want that? He

768
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 6: just completely shuts down the idea. But it just feels

769
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 6: like there's something there that he's not saying.

770
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's not your problem. He's expressing to you

771
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 3: he's no longer interested, and you're like, but why, but why?

772
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 3: But maybe you are. It doesn't matter, you know what

773
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,719
Speaker 3: I mean. You have to respect his space, and you

774
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 3: have to respect the fact that he's not interested anymore.

775
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 3: Are you and the girlfriend? Your girlfriend and his girlfriend

776
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 3: ish on the same page about this?

777
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 5: We are.

778
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 6: She just has the ten year attachment, so that is

779
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 6: a lot for her. They have two kids together.

780
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 2: Oh, and there's.

781
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 5: So much intertwined.

782
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 6: It is an entire life that we have to separate,

783
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 6: like down to bank accounts.

784
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 5: Who has the kids on the weekend?

785
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: Like yeah, and.

786
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 6: It's a lot for her in that sense, and that

787
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 6: she thinks, like, why would I want to go through

788
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 6: the trouble of all of that. If I could try

789
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 6: to make this work, but I don't think there's anything

790
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 6: left to make work.

791
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 7: I also don't think you guys, they don't need to

792
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 7: legally divorce if they want to keep that feeling. They

793
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 7: don't have to separate bank accounts. They could just like

794
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 7: keep that under control and just separate in a way

795
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 7: that doesn't involve legality and anything like that.

796
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the nice part.

797
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 6: They're not technically married, they've just been together for ten years.

798
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 2: And well, you just solved another problem in this night.

799
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 6: Ye. Yes, But my girlfriend is also like, well, if

800
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 6: he wants to be done, then I want absolutely nothing

801
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 6: to do with him, and I do not want any reminder.

802
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 6: I do not want to share a bank account. I

803
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 6: do not want to see him using money to take somebody.

804
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 5: Else out on a date. If that's the case. And

805
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:56,439
Speaker 5: I can understand that too.

806
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's also you have to get to a

807
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 3: place where there's not such a motion attached to that

808
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 3: relationship that's reactive. She has two children with him, so

809
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 3: she's never getting away from him. She's gonna have to

810
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,720
Speaker 3: see him on a date. And that's not fair because

811
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 3: you guys are in a relationship, and he's been privy

812
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 3: to that, and he clearly didn't like it, you know,

813
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 3: because he's trying to extricate himself. So I think everybody,

814
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 3: like I think some space would do you all very well.

815
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 3: You know, it would serve you all well, so you

816
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 3: can get some perspective. And it sounds like he's pissed

817
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 3: and he's a little bit angry and he needs to

818
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 3: extricate himself from the situation so he can settle, and you,

819
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 3: guys can settle in this new dynamic that you have

820
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 3: that is, you know, without a man. And if you guys,

821
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 3: find someone else you want to introduce to the two

822
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,439
Speaker 3: of you, that's fine too, but give it some time

823
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 3: without pushing at it, you know what I mean, Like

824
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 3: let the dust settle and actually, like retreat with your

825
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 3: girlfriend and make a delineation in the relationship so that

826
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 3: there's no confusion anymore. There's no expectations from you, guys

827
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 3: that he's going to enjoin you sexually. It doesn't matter

828
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 3: what he's doing out of the relationship. That's really not

829
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 3: of your business anymore.

830
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 4: Right, I think that clarity does need to come from

831
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 4: you because it seems like so far it's been like, well,

832
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:07,439
Speaker 4: what does he want?

833
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 2: Is what's going on with him?

834
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: And I think since he's not giving.

835
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 4: You that, you have to decide for yourself if this

836
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 4: is right for you and make that delineation for what

837
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 4: makes sense for you.

838
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's also something I've been thinking about a

839
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 6: lot lately too, because like, I love our relationship, and

840
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 6: I love the kids, I love being around it, I

841
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 6: love my life. But I'm also twenty four years old,

842
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:32,959
Speaker 6: and it's this is a lot.

843
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a lot of life.

844
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 3: It's a lot for a forty four year old, and

845
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 3: never mind a twenty four year old. But I think, listen,

846
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 3: you have an opportunity here to like be the voice

847
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 3: of reason to come in since there's more emotional attachment

848
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 3: between the two of them than there is between you

849
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 3: and him, necessarily, I think, and you can be the

850
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 3: voice of reason and go, hey, guys, he's made himself clear,

851
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 3: there's I don't want to be the cause of all

852
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 3: of this, like any ruination in a family.

853
00:36:58,480 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: Especially when there are children.

854
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 3: So let's sit down and have a really adult conversation

855
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 3: about how to move forward in a way that serves

856
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,439
Speaker 3: all three of you. You know, what's the best way

857
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 3: to move forward without anger and without negativity and without

858
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 3: this kind of reciprocity of like, well he's doing that,

859
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 3: we're going to do this or whatever.

860
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 6: You know, Yes, and that is what I'm trying to

861
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 6: break right now between my girlfriend, like the he's doing this,

862
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 6: so we should do this in retaliation or because it's good,

863
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 6: we think it's going to make us feel better, whatever

864
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 6: it is. I think that we should just like you said,

865
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 6: let the dust settle, go about life, try to just

866
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 6: let this sit and feel this for a bit before

867
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 6: we make any big life moves with anybody else or

868
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 6: do anything else.

869
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the best way to move forward.

870
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, keep in.

871
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 3: Mind you are twenty four years old. Like, lots of

872
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 3: things can change in a second. Your interests can change,

873
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 3: your sexual interests can change, your predisposition to all of

874
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 3: these things. Everything is moving and fluid, So you don't

875
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 3: want to tie yourself to the situation for long term anyway,

876
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 3: No matter how you're feeling, you're too young to be

877
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 3: like committing to something more than a year down the road.

878
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 2: Do you agree with that?

879
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 5: I agree with it.

880
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 6: But the hopeless romantic in me is like, no, this

881
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 6: is forever. But I'm also a realist in the sense that, like,

882
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 6: I know, things can change at the drop of a hat,

883
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 6: so much already has in my life, and as much

884
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 6: as I want this to be like something forever, I

885
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 6: can also understand that it might not be.

886
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 5: And that's totally okay.

887
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,479
Speaker 6: I have definitely started over and rebuilt things a couple

888
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 6: times in my life already, so that's not the scariest

889
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 6: thing in the world. It's just I love my girlfriend

890
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 6: and I would do anything for her, and at the moment,

891
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 6: like that is what I am worried about in the

892
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 6: sense of life and who I want to be with.

893
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 6: As for him, like, I am just so exhausted with

894
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 6: there always being an issue, Like somebody is ever truly

895
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 6: satisfied with something, you know. And I'm very go with

896
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 6: the flow. So I'm comfortable in life. And I made

897
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 6: a lot of sacrifices to fit this life, not that

898
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 6: I didn't want to. You just have to do that

899
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 6: from single to being in a relationship. But I don't know,

900
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 6: I just feel like I am thinking very like, Okay,

901
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 6: let's just do this and take the next step.

902
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 5: And it's not as easy for her. It's easy for

903
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,919
Speaker 5: him obviously, but it's a lot.

904
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: Well, you just said something.

905
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 3: First of all, I want to just clarify you can

906
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 3: be a hopeless romantic and be a realist. Those two

907
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 3: things can exist at the same time. You can be

908
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 3: totally in love with someone and hope to spend the

909
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 3: rest of your life with them and be pragmatic about

910
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 3: it and know that if certain things happen, it may

911
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 3: not work out that way. So it's okay to be

912
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 3: a hopeless romantic. Like that's nice and that's what your

913
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 3: twenties are for. But I would try to take this

914
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 3: opportunity to lead them in a way to communicate with

915
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,919
Speaker 3: each other. Since it sounds like you are the one

916
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 3: that has the healthiest outlook towards the situation, try and

917
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 3: get them to a where there isn't so much negativity

918
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 3: and like they have to act in like the best

919
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 3: interests of their children and having a long term relationship

920
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 3: that's going to last for decades until they're dead. You know,

921
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 3: they're gonna have these kids for the rest of their lives,

922
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 3: so it's in everyone's best interest to find a better

923
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 3: way to move forward and then move forward.

924
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 6: I'm just I get stuck when it comes to trying

925
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 6: to work out the all are nothing mindset that the

926
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 6: two of them can have. Sometimes, for example, my girlfriend

927
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 6: was the one that said, maybe you should move in

928
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 6: with your parents for a couple of weeks. They live

929
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 6: like maybe a block or two away. It would be

930
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 6: super convenient, Like it would give them some space. Maybe

931
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 6: they can learn to miss each other, because I think

932
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 6: that's something that needs to happen. I think he needs

933
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 6: to miss us. And a key shut it down and

934
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 6: he was like.

935
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 5: I'm not doing that. I'm getting my own place or

936
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 5: I'm staying here.

937
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, well have him get his own place.

938
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, that doesn't sound like the type of if you

939
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 7: were starting new with someone you had no attachment to

940
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,240
Speaker 7: and no history with and they said that to you,

941
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 7: you would walk away in a second. I think history

942
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 7: cannot serve as an excuse for bad behavior and an

943
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 7: unwillingness to compromise. Like I think sometimes history clouds the

944
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 7: types of standards that you would otherwise have for yourself.

945
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 7: And it's important to run everything he says through the

946
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 7: metrics of the most respectful treatment that you both deserve.

947
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 6: Yes, and these every sign and every action that he

948
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 6: has done throughout this.

949
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 5: I've been thinking about it.

950
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 6: And it's not even a soft breakup.

951
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 5: It is a very hard breakup. That those are very

952
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 5: hard breakup signs.

953
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's you're resisting the breakup though, Like what you

954
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 3: guys are doing is resisting the reality of a situation,

955
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 3: which will only prolong a situation. And you're resisting what

956
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 3: he's telling you, like he's giving you the information, you're

957
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 3: being like investigating it further.

958
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 2: There's no need for that.

959
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 3: It's time for the next step to move forward and

960
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 3: get him out of the house.

961
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 2: Let him go. He wants to go. He's not into

962
00:41:58,840 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 2: you guys except that.

963
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 6: Yes, And I definitely am ready to accept that. I

964
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 6: just need to get my girlfriend on the same page.

965
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 6: She is doing a lot better with it, like she understands.

966
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 6: I just think it's hard altogether. She's just grieving the

967
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 6: relationship as a whole. Yeah, but we both know that

968
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 6: we need to move forward and stick to our guns

969
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 6: because he has a tendency to blow things up kind

970
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 6: of like this and like say like, oh, maybe we

971
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 6: should just break up or whatever, and things just weirdly

972
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 6: go back to normal. It's like it never happened, Like

973
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 6: he woke up and changed his mind the next day,

974
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 6: and I think that's just not wanting to leave the

975
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 6: comfortability of the life that he does have with us,

976
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 6: and like the house that we have and everything else. Right,

977
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 6: I'm not sure what to do there because I feel

978
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 6: like we always get to a certain point and then

979
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 6: there's just a standstill and he just waits for things

980
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 6: to die down or something.

981
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 3: Well, I think you need to go to your girlfriend

982
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 3: and say, we're going to go to have a conversation

983
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 3: with him, and the next move is for him to

984
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 3: move out. We're existing in a situation that is no

985
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 3: longer hospitable for anybody.

986
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: Do you guys, rent is who's on the lease.

987
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 6: We have a mortgage and it's him that's on the mortgage,

988
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 6: but he's willing to move out, so we can switch

989
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 6: that around.

990
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 5: It's so messy but great.

991
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 3: But the thing is, in these messy situations, you have

992
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 3: to take steps. It's like a twister that just keeps

993
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 3: going around and around until someone steps in and changes

994
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 3: what's happening. So you have to be that person. Step one,

995
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 3: Let's get him out of the house. He doesn't want

996
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 3: to be here. We'll figure out the name on the

997
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 3: mortgage later, but let's take one step at a time

998
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 3: so that everybody is feeling better about the situation.

999
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're just going to have to have that conversation

1000
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 6: and realign our responsibilities and just make it work for

1001
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 6: the two of us.

1002
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, great, go do it. We wish you luck. You're

1003
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 2: going to be fine. Just but be a voice of reason.

1004
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 3: Don't get sucked into this like windmill of not It's

1005
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 3: just nonsensical. It's not working for anyone anymore.

1006
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1007
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 5: And I have a habit of letting myself get sucked

1008
00:43:59,520 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 5: in and.

1009
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 3: Just but I know, I know, you have to take

1010
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 3: yourself out of the drama, even though you're part of

1011
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 3: the drama.

1012
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1013
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 4: And I would encourage your girlfriend to see somebody to

1014
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 4: deal with like the anger part of it, because if

1015
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 4: she can solve that piece of it, I think this

1016
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 4: whole thing will be a lot easier for everybody.

1017
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 3: As nothing good comes from being passive, aggressive or being reactive.

1018
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 2: It's all just like toxic.

1019
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, Libby, thank you so much for calling

1020
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 4: in and keep us posted it on what happens.

1021
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 5: Okay, Yes, thank you guys so much. I appreciate you all.

1022
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 2: Thanky Bye.

1023
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 5: Bye bye.

1024
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 2: Who would have ever thought a threatle gone wrong? Have

1025
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 2: you ever been part of a threatle? Hannah, No, I haven't.

1026
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 3: I've only been part of a sexual threatle, not a

1027
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 3: relationship throuble, and that served its purposes beautifully.

1028
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 4: You do sort of think like she's living the dream, right,

1029
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 4: they're raising kids together, they having a great time.

1030
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 2: But then it's like complicated emoment.

1031
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 3: But I love the sentence of any other guy would

1032
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 3: die to be in this situation. It's like that has

1033
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 3: nothing to do with what's happening.

1034
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that standard. What are you saying?

1035
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 3: Like that he should be more excited sexually than he had, Like,

1036
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 3: you can't make someone be attracted to a situation that

1037
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 3: they've lost interest in.

1038
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 4: And you know, it's totally legitimate if he were asexual

1039
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 4: or like Gray asexual and like still emotionally intimate with them.

1040
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 4: But that does not seem.

1041
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 2: Like No, that sounds checked Out's hard.

1042
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:20,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we always add drama to things, like especially women,

1043
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 3: We have a tendency and that's totally sexist, but it's

1044
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 3: fucking true. We add drama where we don't need to.

1045
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 3: So our job is to withdraw the drama. You know,

1046
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 3: when you can cut it, cut.

1047
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: It and can.

1048
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 4: I loved what you said about like viewing it in

1049
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 4: the context of a new relationship, Like we get so

1050
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 4: sucked into you know, the fallacy of sunk costs, Like

1051
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 4: I've spent ten years with this person that I've got

1052
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 4: to make it work. It's like, no, you have to

1053
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 4: like do what's right for you right now. It doesn't

1054
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 4: matter what the last ten years have been.

1055
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 3: And also, when you're not legally married, that is such

1056
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 3: an advantage in this world, Like you already set yourself

1057
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 3: up for success by not getting legally married in the

1058
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 3: first place.

1059
00:45:55,360 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep. Well, our next caller is Riley. She's real fun.

1060
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 4: Her question is am I an asshole for having sex

1061
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 4: in my new friend's apartment bathroom? Short summary. I got

1062
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 4: invited to a party by three guys I met at

1063
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 4: the movie theater. I go to their house party the

1064
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 4: next day. I tend to be an oversharer and I

1065
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 4: ask the guys for feedback on my nudes. I start

1066
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 4: fooling around with one of them and things quickly escalate.

1067
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 4: We're both very caught up in the moment and decide

1068
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 4: to move to the bathroom to have sex.

1069
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: A female friend of the.

1070
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 4: Apartment owner got very upset at me, screaming at me

1071
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 4: the moment we left the bathroom.

1072
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:33,439
Speaker 2: This is all like four.

1073
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 4: Thirty in the morning. By the way, I am bummed

1074
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 4: because I thought I was making new friends. I feel

1075
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 4: really bad, and I texted the apartment owner that I'm sorry.

1076
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 4: I acknowledge how disgusting it must feel to have other

1077
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 4: people in your space. I appreciate the kind gesture of

1078
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 4: inviting someone you've met a day prior to your apartment,

1079
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 4: and I'm sorry I took advantage of that. I also

1080
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 4: offered to deep clean his bathroom or pay someone to

1081
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 4: do it. Am I a huge asshole for doing this?

1082
00:46:55,160 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 7: Riley? Obsessed with you so iconic?

1083
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 5: Oh my god?

1084
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like, if there's a window to

1085
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 3: be having sex in a bathroom, you picked the right one,

1086
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 3: Like thirty am.

1087
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 2: I feel like that's a totally different.

1088
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 3: Story than doing it in the middle of the afternoon,

1089
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? If you guys are up

1090
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 3: after a certain amount of time, like all bets are off.

1091
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 2: Who's people who are sucked in my bunk bedroom? Multiple times?

1092
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 3: There were like five different couples that hooked up there

1093
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 3: during a party, and.

1094
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 2: I encouraged it. Oh yeah, I mean, and that's harder

1095
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 2: to clean than a bathroom.

1096
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 4: You know those are hard.

1097
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 7: I would have done so well at woods Dot Queen.

1098
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 7: You are a free love diva.

1099
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 8: You know she cleaned up all the come afterwards, and

1100
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 8: she's still got upset. So it's not I don't. I

1101
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 8: did everything right. I feel like both my parents know

1102
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 8: the story and that detail and they are on my side,

1103
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 8: So I don't I.

1104
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 2: Agree, And so is your friend. Your friend is still

1105
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 2: mad at you.

1106
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 8: Well, okay, I have an update to the story. I

1107
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 8: don't know if you have time for.

1108
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,439
Speaker 2: This update, because I think we do go for it.

1109
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 8: I sent that apology text, right, and I sent another

1110
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 8: apology text a week after the sex incident. I got

1111
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 8: a text message literally the eve of my birthday on

1112
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 8: the twenty ninth, which is like a couple weeks after

1113
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 8: fourth of July. And this is what the text message

1114
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 8: did I get. Hey, you dumb bitch, if you're actually

1115
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 8: fucking sorry for what you did, DoorDash ethan a McDonald's

1116
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 8: big macmeal and twenty piece chicken McNuggets tomorrow at six

1117
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 8: thirty pm send Trent your nudes. Some guy at the

1118
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 8: party and give me back my hairclip along with a

1119
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 8: bottle of alcohol so I can disinfect that shit because

1120
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 8: I don't want to catch any crabs from you.

1121
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 4: So Ethan is the apartment owner, right, yes, And this

1122
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 4: girl she doesn't live there.

1123
00:48:55,440 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: She does her to No, she is there.

1124
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's kind of shocking you are You are triggering

1125
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 7: her because she's threatened by her sexual freedom.

1126
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 2: Doll.

1127
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 8: You know what's so funny is that like we had

1128
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 8: like I was cool with everyone before this sex incident,

1129
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 8: Like this girl is like this cute girl, and we

1130
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 8: had this whole conversation about like if she takes nudes,

1131
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 8: like sex questions, and like she was cool with everything.

1132
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 8: The turning point was me having sex in the bathroom.

1133
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 2: So and so did you respond to that text?

1134
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 8: Not really, I responded a couple of days So after

1135
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,720
Speaker 8: this text minute, she sent me another text saying where's

1136
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 8: our McDonald's, you stupid bitch.

1137
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

1138
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 8: And a couple of days later, I just like wanted

1139
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 8: to end it, said, hey, like Alice, let's call her Alice. Hey, Alice, Like,

1140
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,439
Speaker 8: I don't have your hair clip. I have no idea

1141
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 8: what you're talking about. And I sent a screenshot of Christopher,

1142
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 8: the guy I hooked up with. He sent me this

1143
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 8: long ass apology like the day we had sex, like

1144
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 8: after she yelled at me kicked me out. I sent

1145
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 8: a screenshot of that and said like, hey, I wish

1146
00:49:56,320 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 8: you guys well bye, And I venmoed this bitch one

1147
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 8: hundred dollars.

1148
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: Why why why?

1149
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 8: Because just okay, like if you're that mad at me,

1150
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 8: like here you go.

1151
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 3: Way, But she's unstable, she's unhanded, she has no business

1152
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 3: talking to you.

1153
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 8: Like everyone, it's just like the last like here you go,

1154
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 8: Like if you're that fucking angry, here you go, Like,

1155
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 8: I'm sorry for fucking in your bathroom.

1156
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 3: Listen, listen, having sex in a bathroom is not a crime.

1157
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 3: It's just not suggested at most places. You can totally

1158
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 3: do that. And it's a funny story. But anyone who

1159
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 3: addresses you and talks to you and says you're a

1160
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 3: dumb bitch, you don't are not giving them money in

1161
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 3: the future. Do you understand that you're being bullied by

1162
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 3: some fucking girl she who has no say in this situation.

1163
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 8: You know, it's funny. These people are in their thirties.

1164
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:41,479
Speaker 8: I just turned twenty seven.

1165
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 2: Don't beat yourself up for this, no scenario.

1166
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 8: No, I never not know everybody's on my side.

1167
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 3: Okay, good, Yeah, don't engage with people who talk to

1168
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 3: you like that, Like it's so gross when women talk

1169
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 3: to women like that.

1170
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, I know, this is funny because this is like

1171
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 8: top two of the biggest like verbal arguments I've had,

1172
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 8: and both of them were like with a fee mill

1173
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 8: and like sex related, so like something with women against

1174
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 8: women and like sex like it's.

1175
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 3: Well, it's what Hannah said that people get threatened by

1176
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 3: other people's freedom in any area of their life, and

1177
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 3: especially sexually. If someone else isn't as sexually free and

1178
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 3: they see someone being sexually free, that is a threat

1179
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 3: to them.

1180
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 8: M m yeah, it's fucking weird.

1181
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 2: It's a good story.

1182
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 3: Good job, I'm letting him clean up all the come

1183
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 3: way to go on that cat, you know what a gentleman.

1184
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 6: You know.

1185
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 8: Okay, I just want to say, like I just like

1186
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 8: think about like obviously this guy and I are not

1187
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 8: on good terms right now, but the minute before we

1188
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 8: went to the bathroom, he like told me like I

1189
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 8: want to fuck your brains out, and I just like

1190
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 8: I just want to I just like remember that moment,

1191
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 8: Like I get sad about Oh I lost some friends.

1192
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 8: He was the one who came on to me. Like,

1193
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,720
Speaker 8: let's just put it that way. I didn't initiate Yeah,

1194
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 8: the sex at all.

1195
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 4: And also like, these people are not your friends, right,

1196
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 4: these people they seem like they were going to be

1197
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 4: fun and interesting and they treated you like dirt.

1198
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: Also, you know you knew them for a couple of days,

1199
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 1: so no harm done.

1200
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's kind of Yeah, it's funny how it all

1201
00:51:59,280 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 8: worked out.

1202
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good cocktail party story though, totally.

1203
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 8: It's very funny. Yeah, And like and the fact that

1204
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 8: I get to meet you and like tell the story

1205
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 8: like to my favorite comedian is like, this is the

1206
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 8: bestia of my life.

1207
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,439
Speaker 3: So look, what are the worst decisions that you thought

1208
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 3: you made led to a really good decision.

1209
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 2: See how that worked out? Already you already had.

1210
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 3: Good vibes from your bad what you thought was a

1211
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 3: bad decision, which wasn't even a bad decision.

1212
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 2: You just had a fun.

1213
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, No, it was fun. Who cares the guy had

1214
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 8: like was man enough to like defend me and be like, hey,

1215
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 8: I didn't do anything work Like, I don't.

1216
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 2: Think it don't depend on men for anything. Yeah, and

1217
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 2: obviously don't depend on women either.

1218
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 5: I depend on you.

1219
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 2: You're all you've got.

1220
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 8: I know.

1221
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 3: Well, good luck with everything, and I hope you make

1222
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 3: some new cooler friends quickly.

1223
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 8: Thank you, tell me okay, bye bye bye bye.

1224
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,280
Speaker 3: And on that note, we're going to take a break

1225
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 3: and come back to wrap things up with Hannah einbinder

1226
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 3: and we're back and there is no comm on the counter.

1227
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 8: Wow.

1228
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,919
Speaker 3: I love that she came out with com like ten

1229
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 3: seconds into the call.

1230
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 2: I like that whole whole story.

1231
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 5: I know.

1232
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 4: I'm just mad that she venmoted them because when I

1233
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 4: talked to her, she had like said, oh, she wants

1234
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 4: me to send them food whatever, And I was like,

1235
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 4: don't do any of those things that she told you

1236
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 4: to do.

1237
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 2: Can she venmote her money?

1238
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,959
Speaker 3: Oh girl, until the umbrella of I'm sorry for having

1239
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 3: sex with your friend in your other friend's apartment, Like,

1240
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 3: none of that makes any sense.

1241
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 4: I think this girl has a crush on one or

1242
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 4: multiple of those guys, and it's like jealous.

1243
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 1: Like you said, Jella's very transparent.

1244
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 3: You know, they're just sitting around sending her that text,

1245
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 3: like let's see what we can get her to do

1246
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:41,240
Speaker 3: it's such bullying.

1247
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 4: Ire in their thirties and they can't aford McDonald's, then

1248
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 4: like a good briddance.

1249
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1250
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 3: And if they're in their thirties and they want McDonald's,

1251
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 3: call me because I still feel the same way.

1252
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 4: Well, I have a quickie we can wrap up with right.

1253
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 4: So this emails from Ben. He says, you're Chelsea girl.

1254
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 4: I need some help. I'm a thirty year old gay

1255
00:53:58,520 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 4: man living in Texas.

1256
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 5: No I know.

1257
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 4: I moved here from LA hoping to educate some of

1258
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 4: these fucking Republicans. It's not going great anyway. I love

1259
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 4: to have a good time, not like I have a

1260
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 4: fucking problem, but vodka and I get along very very well.

1261
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 4: I am never a messy drunk or mean or out

1262
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 4: of control. I'm fun, love to laugh, and usually when

1263
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,720
Speaker 4: I'm drunk, I'll dance on a table and we'll usually

1264
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 4: tell people how much I love them, how much they're

1265
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 4: gonna achieve all their fucking dreams, even if I don't

1266
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 4: believe it's sober. So my issue is I can have

1267
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 4: the best time drinking, go to bed after an amazing night,

1268
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 4: but the next morning I wake up and feel like

1269
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 4: everyone hates me. I have an insane amount of regret

1270
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 4: and I literally have to check in with people and

1271
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 4: make sure they're not mad at me after getting drunk.

1272
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 4: I love drinking and have no desire to stop. But

1273
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 4: why do I always feel this way after drinking? And

1274
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 4: how can I snap out of it? I know you

1275
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 4: love a good time with alcohol and occasional drug use.

1276
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 4: Please help.

1277
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 2: Bet that's anxiety from that's a result of consuming too

1278
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 2: much alcohol. Yeah, so you have to That's what happens

1279
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 2: to so.

1280
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 3: Many people when they overdrink. As much as I love to,

1281
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 3: I do not over drink. I drink to the point

1282
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 3: where I have a buzz, but I do not allow

1283
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 3: myself to get wasted anymore.

1284
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 2: So you have to calibrate your drinking.

1285
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 3: It's totally fine to go out and have a good time,

1286
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 3: but you don't need to get wasted every time you

1287
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 3: go out. That just leads to people not wanting to

1288
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 3: hang out with you and regretful feelings in the morning,

1289
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 3: and it causes anxiety. Alcohol causes anxiety, not while you're

1290
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,280
Speaker 3: drinking it the very next day. This is very common

1291
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 3: among a lot of people. So you can also compliment

1292
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 3: your alcohol use with an edible so you don't drink

1293
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 3: as much. You know, when I have an edible, I

1294
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 3: don't have the desire to have a drink. Last night,

1295
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 3: I went out to dinner and I had two drinks

1296
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 3: in an edible, And that's usually my kind of like,

1297
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,720
Speaker 3: you know, if it's a dinner and I'm not out out,

1298
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 3: just get yourself down to a reasonable amount of drinking

1299
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 3: so that you start feeling better in the morning, and

1300
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 3: take days off too.

1301
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,879
Speaker 2: You can't drink every day because if you.

1302
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 3: Want to get rid of that anxiety, you have to

1303
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 3: like get control of the situation first. But there's no

1304
00:55:58,239 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 3: you don't have to stop as long as you get

1305
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 3: it under control. I had a boyfriend once said to me,

1306
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 3: I never want to overdo anything because I never want

1307
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,280
Speaker 3: to have to quit anything. And I took that advice

1308
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 3: pretty seriously. I mean, I've overdone things plenty of times,

1309
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 3: but I always reel it in when I need to.

1310
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:14,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I was gonna suggest incorporating pot as well.

1311
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you're drinking less.

1312
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 7: Also, like pot tends to whenever I drink, ease the

1313
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 7: symptoms of like any hangover type thing. The next day,

1314
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 7: Like I feel like pot kind of curbs some of

1315
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 7: that stuff.

1316
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 2: You mean the night before or the next day, when

1317
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 2: you're feeling it.

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Speaker 7: The next day, I feel I'm less hungover if I've

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Speaker 7: had if I've smoked weed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like you're not a big drinker.

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Speaker 3: No, No, is it because it gives you anxiety or

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Speaker 3: you just don't like alcohol.

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Speaker 7: It doesn't really do the thing that it does for

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Speaker 7: other people. On me, it's very rare that I drink

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Speaker 7: and I'm like, I feel amazing.

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Speaker 1: The only time.

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Speaker 7: I've ever felt that way is actually having a Leichi

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Speaker 7: martini from that restaurant Jar on Beverly Boulevard.

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Speaker 2: I know it.

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Speaker 7: It's the only time I drink alcohol and thought, oh,

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Speaker 7: I understand this is really good. I'm so like physically

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Speaker 7: jewish that like I can't get the good feeling before

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Speaker 7: I get.

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Speaker 1: Like noiseous or a headache.

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Speaker 7: Like I just like get the physical like shitty symptoms

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Speaker 7: before I can like have fun.

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Speaker 2: Right, And how old is this guy?

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Speaker 1: Thirty?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you want to get this under control now? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Like and just so you know, like if you look

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00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 3: that up, like hangover anxiety, it is very common. People

1342
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 3: always are experiencing that. So you just want to like

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Speaker 3: control the situation. And once you get control of the situation,

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Speaker 3: and then you could introduce different things.

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Speaker 2: You can try a.

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Speaker 3: Light edible, you can try a joint, whatever you prefer,

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Speaker 3: however you prefer it. In jest, I prefer joints. But

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Speaker 3: I can't smoke wheed anymore because of my larynx. I

1349
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Speaker 3: butchered that another thing I over did, so now I

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Speaker 3: have to take edibles, whether I like it or not.

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Speaker 2: But I made that adjustment because you have to.

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Speaker 3: I don't have a choice, really, you know, you just

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Speaker 3: have to control your habits.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Hannah, i'mbender you know. I love you.

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Speaker 5: I love you.

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00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 2: Thank you for driving to my house. Hell ya in

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Speaker 2: Brentwood and no less even though you were in Venice.

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Speaker 2: That's right, that's okay.

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Speaker 3: And thank you for christening our podcast room. This is

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Speaker 3: one of our first in person podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Is that so?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: We've only had.

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Speaker 3: One other one, but yeah, this is going to be

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Speaker 3: our new home. So I'm very happy to have you

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Speaker 3: christen it.

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Speaker 1: Awesome. I'm happy to be human sage.

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Speaker 3: And you can watch Hannah Special on Max and you

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00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 3: can watch Hacks on Match and on Match on match

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Speaker 3: dot com. You can watch Hacks on Max and you

1372
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 3: can watch Hannahs Special. Everything must go on Max as well,

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Speaker 3: and you'll be hearing more from her.

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Speaker 2: I can guarantee it. And we'll see you all next week.

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Speaker 2: Bye bye.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So upcoming shows that I have you guys, I

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Speaker 3: will be all over Maine, Charlotte, North Carolina, Charleston, South Carolina.

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Speaker 3: I'm coming to Texas. I'm coming to Saint Louis and

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Speaker 3: Kansas City, and then I will be in Las Vegas

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Speaker 3: performing at the Chelsea Theater inside the Cosmopolitan Hotel. My

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Speaker 3: first three dates in Vegas our September first, Labor Day

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Speaker 3: weekend and then November second.

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Speaker 2: And I'm coming to.

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Speaker 3: Brooklyn, New York at the King's Theater on November eighth.

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Speaker 3: And I have tickets on sale throughout the end of

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Speaker 3: the year in December, So if you're in a city

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Speaker 3: like Philadelphia or Bethlehem or San Diego or New Orleans

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Speaker 3: or Omaha, check Chelseahandler dot com for tickets.

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Speaker 2: Okay, if you'd.

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Speaker 4: Like advice from Chelsea, shoot us an email at Dear

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Speaker 4: Chelsea podcast at gmail dot com and be sure to

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Speaker 4: include your phone number. Dear Chelsea is edited and engineered

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Speaker 4: by Brad Dickert executive producer Catherine Law and be sure

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Speaker 4: to check out our merch at Chelseahandler dot com