Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the very first episode
Speaker 1: of Nightcap Up and Ocho. I am up, Shannon Sharp.
Speaker 1: He is Chad Ocho Sinko Johnson, and thank you. Thank
Speaker 1: you for joining us. I'm very excited. Oh Jo, how
Speaker 1: are you feeling about this?
Speaker 2: Man? I feel good. I feel good. Listen.
Speaker 3: I never stay up this late, I never stay up
Speaker 3: this this time of night. But for you, I'm willing
Speaker 3: to do anything.
Speaker 1: Well, I sure appreciate that. Let's jump right into it, Yes, sir, First,
Speaker 1: our first topic our Rock Party and the San Francisco
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers. This good or did the Steelers just
Speaker 1: have a bad day?
Speaker 2: Listen?
Speaker 3: Rock Perty and the forty nine Ers are that good?
Speaker 3: They showed you that last year. Yes, he told you
Speaker 3: that last year. Rock Party. Mister ir Relevant coming in
Speaker 3: taking Garoppolo's place. He's very relevant now. He's very relevant now.
Speaker 3: And the supporting cast offensively. You got brother Bosa on
Speaker 3: the other side. His job is so easy. Brandon Ayuk
Speaker 3: has emerged as a true number one receiver with two
Speaker 3: touchdowns a day, debo at some point and going to
Speaker 3: get going. They're gonna get him, get him acclimated into
Speaker 3: the offense and get him, get him his touches, and
Speaker 3: he gonna do what he's what he's always done. They
Speaker 3: are the real deal. They are the real deal.
Speaker 1: I agree with you. All brock Purdy did today would
Speaker 1: show you why they were so willing to move on
Speaker 1: from Trey Lance when they moved heaven and earth to
Speaker 1: get him. So he crystallized it. If there was any
Speaker 1: doubt in anybody's mind, why would you give up so
Speaker 1: much to get a man and only and move out
Speaker 1: for him after three years? Well you saw brock Purty
Speaker 1: and the way he orchestrated the offense.
Speaker 2: You mentioned it.
Speaker 1: They got Debo, they got Brandon Ayuk Kittles didn't get involved.
Speaker 1: But the biggest acquisition was made last year the trade deadline,
Speaker 1: when they got Christian McCaffrey. He can do it all.
Speaker 1: He can run between the tackles, he can get outside.
Speaker 1: You can put him in this, you can swing it
Speaker 1: to him and he can get you a first down,
Speaker 1: as you saw today, he can hit his head on
Speaker 1: the goal post also. But one a signing that went
Speaker 1: unnoticed is that you mentioned Joe Bosa on the outside.
Speaker 1: You got Armstead, but they signed your own heart Rove
Speaker 1: They brought him in to shore up the middle. So
Speaker 1: now you can't go any where. You got two guys
Speaker 1: pushing on the inside. You got a guy that's coming
Speaker 1: off the edge. The best middle linebacker in football is
Speaker 1: Fred Award. He a heat seeking missile. They're gonna be
Speaker 1: to deal with a lot of people questioned, well, why
Speaker 1: would you put them number two over the Eagles?
Speaker 2: I think they answered that question today. They did. They
Speaker 2: most definitely did.
Speaker 3: And the funny thing about it is we talk about
Speaker 3: teams having an identity. Noally, a team has an identity
Speaker 3: either offense is the identity is offense, or the idea
Speaker 3: is defense. The forty nine is one of the few
Speaker 3: teams in the NFL where the identity is on both
Speaker 3: sides of the There's quality on both sides of the ball, yes,
Speaker 3: in all three phases, whether it's offense or whether it's defense.
Speaker 3: And how they were able to fit all that under
Speaker 3: the salary cap beyond me, Yes, beyond me. But if
Speaker 3: they're gonna get it done, they're gonna have to get
Speaker 3: it done right now because at some point Rock Party
Speaker 3: is coming to the table and there's no way they're
Speaker 3: gonna be able to keep that team together the way
Speaker 3: it is right now.
Speaker 1: Well, one thing I know about Kyle Shanahan, and I've
Speaker 1: known him for a very long time, and he has
Speaker 1: a lot of similarities to his father. There is no rebuilding,
Speaker 1: there's only retooling. They're going for it every year. And
Speaker 1: if you look at the roster that they've assembled, that
Speaker 1: roster is ready to compete for at least, as you mentioned,
Speaker 1: the next two years. Now, Rock Party is only going
Speaker 1: into his second year, so they're probably not gonna do
Speaker 1: anything and probably until that third year. Right, So they
Speaker 1: basically got a two year window because Rock Party is
Speaker 1: going to go from making two million dollars to somewhere
Speaker 1: around forty to fifty million dollars within the next the
Speaker 1: next twenty four months.
Speaker 2: I have another question though.
Speaker 3: I have another question though this is the fact, the
Speaker 3: fact that the matter still remains. Is Rock Purty as
Speaker 3: good as he is or is he only shining because
Speaker 3: his supporting cast is that great?
Speaker 1: Well us sometimes as long as he understands who he is.
Speaker 1: I played with a guy named Trent Delver. Now Trent
Speaker 1: was Trent tom Brady or Peyton Manning. No, but he
Speaker 1: didn't need to be and Rock Party doesn't need to
Speaker 1: be Patrick Mahomes. He doesn't need to be one of
Speaker 1: these franchise quarterbacks. He just needs to be the Look.
Speaker 1: I got great players, I got great horn players, I
Speaker 1: got great percussionists. Hey, Bruk, all I need you to
Speaker 1: do is this right here? Just stay on beat and
Speaker 1: as long as he stays on beat, they'll be just fine.
Speaker 2: So what about the Steelers? What didn't you like about
Speaker 2: the Steelers today?
Speaker 3: Listen, the Steelers were flat. They were flat, and all
Speaker 3: three phases offensively, special teams, defense, defense was flat. Obviously,
Speaker 3: when I think about the Steelers, I think of the
Speaker 3: Steelers of the two thousands. You think of the Steelers
Speaker 3: of the two thousands. Anytime you play this, you had
Speaker 3: to come in the stadium with two ten straps. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they're gona not They're gonna knock.
Speaker 2: The first one off for you.
Speaker 3: They're gonna knock the first one off for Yes, that's
Speaker 3: the way they played.
Speaker 2: Identity.
Speaker 3: I talk about identity every time, and that's something that
Speaker 3: the Steelers always had. Listen, what Tom has been able
Speaker 3: to do and being above five hundred what seventeen years running,
Speaker 3: I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: I don't know the numbers. Correctly.
Speaker 3: But he's had a winning season almost every really every
Speaker 3: season he's been there, he's been he's never had a
Speaker 3: losing season, never had a losing season. But the fact
Speaker 3: of the matter still remains. They aren't the same still
Speaker 3: as of old. The game has evolved and they don't
Speaker 3: have identity right now. Offensively, they got to get going.
Speaker 3: They got to get the picket, the picket and pickings train.
Speaker 2: I was on it.
Speaker 3: I'm waiting to see it. Obviously it didn't happen in
Speaker 3: week one because you did have to play against the
Speaker 3: phenomenal team like the forty nine ers to open your
Speaker 3: season up. I think they'll rebound. I think they'll rebound
Speaker 3: next week. But as far as the game the forty
Speaker 3: nine ers.
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to get.
Speaker 1: You're definitely gonna have to get better play out of
Speaker 1: the quarterback position, because I don't care in today's game.
Speaker 1: You know oo, back in the day you brought your
Speaker 1: running game. You play defense, you can minimize the quarterback.
Speaker 1: You can minimize the quarterback, but now teams will force
Speaker 1: you to make your quarterback be a participant, yeah, and
Speaker 1: not a cheerleader. Yeah, So you can't hide it. I
Speaker 1: can hide every other position on the field. I can
Speaker 1: slide the offensive line to protect an offensive lineman, I
Speaker 1: can rotate the coverage, protect the corner or safety. You
Speaker 1: can't hide that guy because he touches the ball every
Speaker 1: single time. And I'm gonna make you for I'm gonna
Speaker 1: force him to have to make plays to beat me.
Speaker 2: But you know, you know it's really unfair.
Speaker 3: It's really unfair to justine Steelers week one, a team
Speaker 3: like the forty nine ers, that is totally unfair, totally
Speaker 3: unfair because it's gonna take them time.
Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta, I got a better whip for
Speaker 1: number two. Who had the more impressive day, Jordan Love
Speaker 1: or tour.
Speaker 3: Oo Too's beautiful today to a tour and beautiful. I
Speaker 3: can't remember the number, but I know he threw for
Speaker 3: fifty six, three touchdowns and three tds. Tyreek is responsible
Speaker 3: for two of those. I'm not mistaken, right, Yes, so, Tyreek,
Speaker 3: he guaranteed. He says he wants to be on pace
Speaker 3: for two thousand yards. He is on pace to get
Speaker 3: two thousand plus and some more yet.
Speaker 2: But I think the fact.
Speaker 3: That we didn't know what Jordan Love would be, We
Speaker 3: didn't know what we were gonna.
Speaker 2: Get Aaron Rodney. He sat behind Aaron Rodgers for three years.
Speaker 3: So you don't know what you get until it's out
Speaker 3: there and the bullets are flying for real and you
Speaker 3: get a small sample size of what you would get
Speaker 3: if what we saw today, If what we saw today
Speaker 3: from Jordan Love is the coming of what he's going
Speaker 3: to be, or Packers fans and for another good another
Speaker 3: beautiful decade of having a great quarterback at the Helm.
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I'm gonna say Jordan Love for
Speaker 1: the very reasons that you said, because he's following Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: a four time League MVP, a Super Bowl winner, a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVP, arguably one of the arguably the greatest
Speaker 1: throw of the football that I've seen.
Speaker 2: He and Dan Marina.
Speaker 1: We'll let them get in the room and discuss that
Speaker 1: who's the better throw of the football. But he's inn
Speaker 1: he if there's a conversation going on, he's in that
Speaker 1: conversation Aaron Rodgers, and the pressure, the expectations, because nothing
Speaker 1: kills dreams and and and makes you come back to
Speaker 1: reality more so than expectations. There's an expectation that this
Speaker 1: kid is the real deal. Remember they traded up to
Speaker 1: get him. They ticked off Aaron Rodgers because they traded
Speaker 1: up to get them off and had had to come
Speaker 1: back in pain and hady and had to make him happy.
Speaker 1: And he never forgave them for that. So you're on
Speaker 1: the road your first I mean, one of the what
Speaker 1: he started in Kansas City. But now he knows the
Speaker 1: ship is his. They've removed everything around him. The ship
Speaker 1: is yours. You're playing your divisions, your division rival it's
Speaker 1: the oldest rivalry in the NFL. And and he says,
Speaker 1: you know what the faith was? Well put, I know
Speaker 1: it's one game, and I'm like you, oh, Joe, I
Speaker 1: don't like putting a whole lot of stock in one game.
Speaker 1: But if you look, can't the way he threw the football,
Speaker 1: it reminded you a little Aaron Rodgers, his release point,
Speaker 1: the way he jumped it through the ball and Aaron
Speaker 1: Jones scored a touchdown on it. He threw a ball,
Speaker 1: He threw a couple of balls to Dobs. I was like,
Speaker 1: this kid looked like he has the goods. Oh yeah, listen.
Speaker 3: I had the opportunity of going to the joint practice
Speaker 3: between the Packers and the Bengals earlier, earlier in the
Speaker 3: in the preseason, and I was able to watch him
Speaker 3: play obviously watching from TV. It doesn't do you no justice.
Speaker 3: You know, listen to the media talk about players. You
Speaker 3: understand that he sat behind Aaron Rodgers for a long time.
Speaker 3: You hear people talk about him being polished, and you
Speaker 3: don't really have an understanding on why they went up
Speaker 3: to grab him early. But then when I get seen
Speaker 3: in person, you know, against the Bengals, even though it's
Speaker 3: a joint practice, still you can just you can just
Speaker 3: see it. You get his or his energy, and watching
Speaker 3: him throw the ball, I'm like, okay, okay, okay. And
Speaker 3: today was another small that was a small sample size
Speaker 3: to me. But then seeing on display live and in color,
Speaker 3: when it's time to go and you got to show out, man,
Speaker 3: he showed up and he showed out.
Speaker 1: Oh till you know what they used to say, You
Speaker 1: don't want to be the man that follows the man.
Speaker 1: You want to be the man that followed the man
Speaker 1: that followed the man. So like Aaron Rodgers, he followed
Speaker 1: Brett far Her and I think he says, okay, Brett
Speaker 1: was great. That was a tall task. Now that was
Speaker 1: a tall task. So you got what fifteen sixteen years
Speaker 1: of that? Okay, here comes Aaron Rodgers. You have so basically,
Speaker 1: you've had thirty almost thirty five years of great play
Speaker 1: at quarterback. You've got seven MVPs, two Super Bowls, three
Speaker 1: Super Bowl appearances.
Speaker 2: That's what Jordan Love is following.
Speaker 1: Do you understand the no quarterback in the history of
Speaker 1: the game has had to follow what this young man
Speaker 1: is following. Seven MVPs, three super Bowl appearances, two super
Speaker 1: Bowl wins, and you're talking about two. You can make
Speaker 1: a case that far edon Rodgers. I believe Rogers is
Speaker 1: no question. In my book, Rogers the top five quarterback.
Speaker 1: Brett made the All Century Team. So he's a top
Speaker 1: five quarterback, top ten quarterback at the at the bare minimum.
Speaker 2: And that's what Jordan Love is following. Now.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that he's gonna go out and throw
Speaker 1: three touchdowns every game and he's gonna be as clean
Speaker 1: down the road as he was today. But I think
Speaker 1: most people like what they saw today.
Speaker 3: Listen it and when you when you go when you
Speaker 3: go buy a car, right, when you go to the
Speaker 3: car line, yes, right, and your test drive a car Yes,
Speaker 3: that's a small sample size of what you're gonna get
Speaker 3: when you spend your money. Right, what I saw from
Speaker 3: Jordan Love today was enough of a small samba size
Speaker 3: of what's to come throughout the season. We know it's
Speaker 3: gonna be ups and downs, right, that's a part of
Speaker 3: the game. We know it's gonna be ups and downs.
Speaker 2: But how soon?
Speaker 1: How soon are those ups and downs coming? Because when
Speaker 1: I buy a car, I don't need no ups and
Speaker 1: downs in the first six months of the first year.
Speaker 1: I just go out there and stick the kid and
Speaker 1: ignition Well, there's not going to stick the kid. Ignition
Speaker 1: is push the button. Push the button.
Speaker 3: Now by the time you get the week six, Now
Speaker 3: that you're like gonna come on now, you're gonna have
Speaker 3: to get your feel chain.
Speaker 1: I show hope they'll come on that quick for Jordan Love,
Speaker 1: but I think he was He was impressive. I think
Speaker 1: for me and I understand two or three for four
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty six yards. He had three touchdown. They
Speaker 1: won the shootout with the Chargers. But I was more
Speaker 1: impressed with Jordan Love given the level of expectations, right
Speaker 1: of what what was placed on his shoulders.
Speaker 3: I think the funny part about it is understanding the
Speaker 3: footsteps that he has to follow behind and breathes.
Speaker 2: And Aaron Rodgers I've.
Speaker 3: Seen I've seen two or throw for four hundred to
Speaker 3: Tyreek or.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and the last that last week, two
Speaker 1: week three last year against Baltimore.
Speaker 3: I've seen him do that before. So seeing seeing Jordan
Speaker 3: Love live up to the expectations. Oh so this is
Speaker 3: why y'all jumped up like this. Oh so this is
Speaker 3: why Aaron Rodgers was mad. Now I get it. I
Speaker 3: have a better understanding.
Speaker 1: Now you see why those quarterbacks, when they take those quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: they do everything they possibly can to keep them on
Speaker 1: the bench. They take all the reps, even the kneel down,
Speaker 1: even in victory formation. Tom Brady was taking nil downs.
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning's taking Neil downs. Drew Brees is taking Neil downs.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back. I'm I'm gonna go back, not
Speaker 1: too far, Foxborough. Tom Brady has somebody over his shoulder. Yeah,
Speaker 1: horn Star, Jimmy, Jimmy. I don't think it doesn't sit
Speaker 1: well with him being the person behind me. Hey, somebody
Speaker 1: got to get him up out of.
Speaker 2: Here, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you and I know that they want this
Speaker 1: kid to play oh yeah, oh yeah, And I get it.
Speaker 1: And they're looking for every reason I have an off game.
Speaker 1: They're like, well, maybe he doesn't have it. They're looking
Speaker 1: for a reason to move on. Because I've already got
Speaker 1: your air parent, I've got your replacement already in the building.
Speaker 2: I don't have to look always. I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go to something near and dear to your heart.
Speaker 1: A couple of days ago, Jamar Chase says, I really
Speaker 1: don't pay attention to the hype around them because Cleveland
Speaker 1: is Cleveland. It feels like a regular game to me.
Speaker 1: It's just them hooping and hollering about the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we call them the Els. But yeah, the
Speaker 1: L's put something on you today. The L puts something
Speaker 1: on you today, Ojo, the L Listen. We didn't we
Speaker 1: didn't play good football we as a whole. And I'm
Speaker 1: saying we because I'm a part of the team. So
Speaker 1: it happened to them that it happened to me as well.
Speaker 1: Game and it's entirety. I didn't miss anything. I didn't
Speaker 1: miss a beat, I didn't blink. But what I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do offensively, we didn't play well. Defensively, we didn't play well.
Speaker 1: Special teams, we didn't play well. Right, we didn't do
Speaker 1: Didney Squad today. I'm a stand on that. The L's comment,
Speaker 1: the L's comment. Jamar said what he said, but you
Speaker 1: got to stand on it and got back. You gotta
Speaker 1: back that up, Thjo. You gotta back that up. You
Speaker 1: know what you say when you talk crazy when you
Speaker 1: should send the pepto bismo and you send the band
Speaker 1: aids because you said, I don't know why I send
Speaker 1: your band aaze because I can't do anything. A bunch
Speaker 1: of feelings you got you got to get. You got
Speaker 1: to get those straight. You gotta you gotta get those
Speaker 1: straight before you come come to the game.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: But listen, he didn't have the game he wanted to.
Speaker 3: Nobody did. And what what what I like about Jamar?
Speaker 3: This is what this is what I love about him.
Speaker 3: Not only did he say the L's comment, he came
Speaker 3: back again and hit him with the L's comment again
Speaker 3: and say.
Speaker 2: He was upset because we lost to the man. So
Speaker 2: we stood on it. He did, He stood on it.
Speaker 2: He did.
Speaker 3: I'm proud of him. And this is one thing about
Speaker 3: the Bengals. For some reason, it happens all the time.
Speaker 3: We start slow, we start slow, we start slow offensively,
Speaker 3: and then at some point we hit a groove and
Speaker 3: we were on all cylinders.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, y'all spend all this money, Yes, sir, y'all
Speaker 1: can't do a better job of protecting that man.
Speaker 2: In what y'all? I mean? Orlando Brown was trending.
Speaker 1: Offensive line should be trending unless he's some some some sauce.
Speaker 3: Listen to me, Listen to me, and and people that
Speaker 3: are going to see this. Let's let's let's have a
Speaker 3: better understand. And when you play a divisional game, you're
Speaker 3: playing an opponent that you're very familiar with. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: they know your offense, they know your tendencies. You know,
Speaker 3: you can only do so much dressing up.
Speaker 2: You know, your offensive.
Speaker 3: Scheme and game plan doesn't change much. The only thing
Speaker 3: that changes is really the formations, just to fool and based.
Speaker 2: On what you're doing right, you know, you know, it's
Speaker 2: only so much you could do. So they're familiar with you.
Speaker 3: Browns bangled to the rivalry that's been going on for
Speaker 3: who knows god how long you know, I don't know
Speaker 3: who how long it's been going on, but it will
Speaker 3: always be close. It's sometime they's going to be a
Speaker 3: shootout today. Today just wasn't our day. And that's okay.
Speaker 3: Congratulating to the Browns. Congratulation to the Browns. But I
Speaker 3: know when it comes time playoff time, I know who
Speaker 3: won't be in the.
Speaker 2: Running, Ojo.
Speaker 3: I know who running North. Let me, let me, let's
Speaker 3: talk about that. I know who running North. We are
Speaker 3: we hooping, the hollering by week one week one.
Speaker 2: Ain't never won nothing, o Jo.
Speaker 1: I give you eighteen million dollars a year. I want
Speaker 1: you to tell me about that deep. We in the
Speaker 1: same division, and he know my tendencies. I'll pay you
Speaker 1: eighteen million dollars to go get open and the beating.
Speaker 1: I don't care if he's in your division. I don't
Speaker 1: care if he's your neighbor. I don't care if y'all
Speaker 1: grew up together, y'all homeboys, right, what they got to
Speaker 1: do with him blocking Miles Garrett?
Speaker 3: Now we talk about Miles Garrett. Now we ain't just
Speaker 3: talk about no. We ain't talking about no. No, dude,
Speaker 3: we just got off the corner just playing DM. We
Speaker 3: talked about Miles Garrett, one of the best, if one
Speaker 3: of the best, if not the best, right behind him,
Speaker 3: right behind Bosa and in the Watts.
Speaker 1: Hello, so what so what we we just told? You
Speaker 1: mean to tell me we just gave up thirty how
Speaker 1: much they gave him? They gave him forty million dollars guaranteed,
Speaker 1: fully guaranteed. Right, and now I got the and they
Speaker 1: chipped the man on every plate.
Speaker 3: But listen, we tried to chip the man. We try
Speaker 3: to do everything possible to give our tackles help to
Speaker 3: be able to nullify the rush of Miles Garrett. But
Speaker 3: it's difficult. It's an at testament to how great and
Speaker 3: good he is.
Speaker 1: You know out you know what a Mike Brown saying,
Speaker 1: y'all don't need no help to pick these checks up.
Speaker 1: I ain't see y'all they brought now one, y'all, they
Speaker 1: brought one extra person upstairs to pick up these checks.
Speaker 1: Y'all didn't have no other name on that direct deposit slip.
Speaker 1: But now all of a sudden, y'all want help. So
Speaker 1: whoever y'all have them.
Speaker 3: Checks, don't do my bangles like that. You played, listen,
Speaker 3: you played, you played on offenses. Yes, there was always
Speaker 3: there was always a wink league on the offensive line
Speaker 3: where you got there. You got to bring your back,
Speaker 3: you got to have your back chip when you got
Speaker 3: to bring the receiver in a little tighter before you
Speaker 3: release off the line, or you gotta you gotta.
Speaker 2: Chip the d in just a little bit before you
Speaker 2: go off. Don't do that. I was bang like that.
Speaker 1: I was very fortunate. Two of my left tackles are
Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame. One of us on
Speaker 1: the Sell one hundred. That adversary te Jonathan Dogen and
Speaker 1: Gary Zimmerlman. So it wasn't a whole lot of chippy.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a whole lot of chipping going on.
Speaker 2: You're right, you're right, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 1: We slide the line the other way because you say,
Speaker 1: if you're saying, you make them. Normally the left tackle
Speaker 1: makes the most money on the offensive line.
Speaker 3: Oh ways, the blind side of the quarterback unless he
Speaker 3: left handed.
Speaker 1: We we slide the line the other way. You one
Speaker 1: on one and he gotta rock Bruce. He gotta deal
Speaker 1: with Reggie White, he gotta deal with he gotta deal
Speaker 1: with DT, he gotta deal with LT. That's what he
Speaker 1: got on his plate. Now, y'all the name that I
Speaker 1: just named, y'all know who they are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, y'all know who they are. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I don't know what y'all got going on with Joe,
Speaker 1: But y'all needn't get that fixed.
Speaker 3: It's week one. It's week one. We don't, we don't,
Speaker 3: We don't need to. We don't need to hit the
Speaker 3: panic button. We don't need to. It's week one for
Speaker 3: one half of half of them, half of them ain't
Speaker 3: even playing in the preseason. So this, this one, this one, this,
Speaker 3: this is a good game for us to get acclimated
Speaker 3: to game tempo, game speed, build that chemistry, and we're
Speaker 3: gonna be right.
Speaker 2: Watch what happened week two though, you know what, Ojo,
Speaker 2: Watch what happened week two? Who they don't get me?
Speaker 1: I think that's what we see a lot of these
Speaker 1: soft tissue because a lot of time you're asking a
Speaker 1: guy to go, Okay, we just gonna go thirty forty
Speaker 1: miles an hour. Then all of a sudden comes Sunday,
Speaker 1: we want you to go one hundred to one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty. And you see a lot of hamstrings, You
Speaker 1: see a lot of quads, you see a lot of
Speaker 1: calf injuries because you're asking the body to do something
Speaker 1: that it had I needed to play. I wanted to
Speaker 1: put my body under the stress of being in the
Speaker 1: preseason and that when the regular season came, I'm ready
Speaker 1: to go.
Speaker 2: I felt very comfortable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you gotta you gotta put your body through
Speaker 3: the ringer. You gotta put through the ringer. You gotta
Speaker 3: shock the body so the body gets used to playing
Speaker 3: at a high rate of speed.
Speaker 2: Yes, getting hit. Yes, I enjoyed two a days.
Speaker 3: I know the CBA wanted to scale back on things
Speaker 3: to protect the players and protect the body.
Speaker 2: They look the player, the player.
Speaker 1: The players bargain for petty privileges, right instead of getting
Speaker 1: let me ask you a question, would you rather go
Speaker 1: two a day's or would you rather have three quarters
Speaker 1: or fully guaranteed contracts? You see what they're bargain for.
Speaker 1: They bargain, Oh, we ain't got to practice but once
Speaker 1: a day on any camp.
Speaker 2: The other time meeting. But you ain't got no guaranteed contracts.
Speaker 1: Right, Baseball guarantee, basketball guarantee, soccer guarantee. You play the
Speaker 1: most physical, grueling sport and you don't have lifetime benefits.
Speaker 1: Basketball players lifetime, baseball players lifetime. Once you get vested,
Speaker 1: you see how they bargain for pure We will talk
Speaker 1: about another day and time last. That's the last topic.
Speaker 1: Dak and the Cowboys roll all over the Giants forty
Speaker 1: zip for one.
Speaker 3: I'm glad the Cowboys won. I'm glad the Cowboys won.
Speaker 3: I'm glad the Cowboys won because I want everybody to
Speaker 3: get off that back it the defense, the defense, Yeah,
Speaker 3: irational giving for the fourteen point lead.
Speaker 2: Yes, gave him a fourteen point lead.
Speaker 3: Offensively, all Dak had to do was just facilitate control
Speaker 3: the game.
Speaker 2: And number one, no turnovers. No turn it over, don't turn,
Speaker 2: don't turn, don't.
Speaker 3: Turn the ball over. Give them nothing to say, give
Speaker 3: them nothing to say.
Speaker 1: If I'm the Giant fan, y'all mean to tell me
Speaker 1: that's y'all gave forty million, forty plus million dollars to
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones for that.
Speaker 2: That's what y' that's what ya paid it for.
Speaker 3: A minute, you know who they were supposed to pay.
Speaker 3: You're supposed to pay your running back. You're supposed to
Speaker 3: pay your running back. Your running back is the one
Speaker 3: that deserves the forty million dollars because the running back
Speaker 3: is the offense. That is your offense. If you leave
Speaker 3: the offense in Daniel Jones hands, you get what you
Speaker 3: got tonight, right, because you got tonight.
Speaker 1: Because once he fell back, once he felt I agree
Speaker 1: with you, because once you fell behind, you took sa
Speaker 1: Quan out of the game. So now Saquan is not
Speaker 1: a threat. So now you get Parsons, you get you
Speaker 1: get armstrong, and you get d Low, you get those
Speaker 1: guys pinning their ears back because then there's no thread
Speaker 1: of the run. As long as there's third of the run.
Speaker 1: I just need you to hesitate for a second. I
Speaker 1: have an old coach to tell me and say, son,
Speaker 1: he who hesitates beat, All I need you to do
Speaker 1: is hesitate for a second. But when Parsons and a
Speaker 1: Ziggie Duer, a Ziggie Duer is jumping out the rock
Speaker 1: like they're jumping out the rock with no hesitation because
Speaker 1: there's thread of the run. You down fourteen nothing, you
Speaker 1: down twenty six nothing. You're running what we're bout to run?
Speaker 1: You out your building. That's the only thing about to
Speaker 1: get runned.
Speaker 2: Did you see Makai coming off the edge. Yes, I
Speaker 2: saw Michaeh man.
Speaker 3: Michael, I'm talk about Mikay, I'm about man.
Speaker 2: I ain't.
Speaker 3: I ain't never seen nobody shoot shoot off the edge
Speaker 3: like that man.
Speaker 1: Because because, oh Joe, you know, you can't shoot up
Speaker 1: if there's a thread of the run, because all you're
Speaker 1: doing is making a You're making a bigger.
Speaker 2: Gap for the back to get through.
Speaker 1: But he knows you're down twenty, you're down nineteen, nothing,
Speaker 1: you're down twenty six, nothing running no football.
Speaker 2: Ain't nothing to worry about it. And even if.
Speaker 1: You do run it, so what all you're gonna do
Speaker 1: is run out of time trying to catch up.
Speaker 3: So you pay your quarterback? What forty minis?
Speaker 2: I must? I must they pay him? They're playing in
Speaker 2: forty were making forty million.
Speaker 3: Okay, making forty million, So if you got a forty
Speaker 3: million dollars quarterback, you didn't want to pay your running back.
Speaker 3: So you're in a situation when you're down twenty and
Speaker 3: you're losing, and you want to be able to put
Speaker 3: the ball in your forty quarterbacks hands.
Speaker 1: That's not what he is and have him to do
Speaker 1: something that's not what That's not what he is though.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, So who who is the one that runs
Speaker 3: the offense and makes that offense go with the Giants
Speaker 3: offen off after.
Speaker 1: That?
Speaker 2: You know what?
Speaker 3: Thank you?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So, why didn't.
Speaker 3: Get a man his money understanding the importance and how
Speaker 3: important he is for.
Speaker 1: Let me ask your question, what's the the average length
Speaker 1: of an NFL player is? Let's just say, for the
Speaker 1: sake of argument, for what we're discussing right now, is
Speaker 1: three years?
Speaker 2: It is?
Speaker 1: It is two to three Okay, three years. And let's
Speaker 1: just say a really good player you're gonna play somewhere
Speaker 1: for a running back, right, you say you got his peak,
Speaker 1: he could be somewhere around three to six years. Well
Speaker 1: before they did the contract with Saquan, he already had four.
Speaker 1: So if you're telling me only, I've already paid it.
Speaker 1: So you mean to tell me you will me to
Speaker 1: give him another five year deal when he only got
Speaker 1: two four years a peak?
Speaker 3: Since who I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't like those numbers. I don't, I don't. I
Speaker 2: don't like those numbers. I'm just I don't like that.
Speaker 2: I don't like them.
Speaker 3: Everything everything the numbers a play A player of sa
Speaker 3: Quon's caliber can play.
Speaker 2: He plays the running back position right.
Speaker 3: And he's a little different than other running backs. I
Speaker 3: think he can play based on running style, body type.
Speaker 2: He can play.
Speaker 3: He can he can play top level football for about eight, eight.
Speaker 2: Or nine to ten years.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. It's like, well, you know when
Speaker 1: that give these baseball players these ten year contracts. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: the first five.
Speaker 2: Years, he's like, oh boy, you see them numbers.
Speaker 1: Within the last the last four years, they're hitting two
Speaker 1: thirty making forty three million. And now all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: so are you going to tell me at the end
Speaker 1: of the contract, Because here's the thing. Now, I already
Speaker 1: paid you. I gotta pay you based on what I
Speaker 1: believe you can do. Oh yo, where they pay you?
Speaker 1: You work your job? They said, man, you don't jo
Speaker 1: showed up every day for ten years. They're not gonna
Speaker 1: pay you because they believe you gon show up for
Speaker 1: another ten years. They already paid you for the ten
Speaker 1: ers that you showed up. Because now they gonna say, ah, man,
Speaker 1: the running back position. He done got three hundred carries
Speaker 1: on his bot on his legs. I just don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you how they think we can't do that.
Speaker 3: And that's what's wrong with the owners now. Because you're
Speaker 3: thinking like that, you're trying to you're trying to be greedy,
Speaker 3: and you get exposed offensively like this because you have nothing,
Speaker 3: you have nowhere for for Daniel Jones to go with
Speaker 3: the ball when things aren't going well, you know who
Speaker 3: I can rely on. Let's get the ball to Sakon.
Speaker 3: Let's reset many, let's reset offensively. We can give it
Speaker 3: to him until we can facilitate and get the running
Speaker 3: game going. We're gonna throw something short, we could throw something,
Speaker 3: you know, intermediate working play action. If you don't have
Speaker 3: no running game, the whole office is dead.
Speaker 1: Because you see, with no threat of running game. Now,
Speaker 1: those offensive linemank out of their stance because the d
Speaker 1: linemen are running around them.
Speaker 3: Listen, they putting them ears back, and it's they all
Speaker 3: to tell.
Speaker 1: I mean when we when we jumped on here last
Speaker 1: I saw they had they had I think six sacks.
Speaker 1: I don't know what they ended up with. Maybe they
Speaker 1: started running the ball, if I'm saying, Quad probably was
Speaker 1: out of the game and they probably started running it.
Speaker 1: But when you fall behind like that, it's hard, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's I've been in a situation where we fall
Speaker 1: behind like that and they know we're not going to
Speaker 1: run the ball because we haven't run it all night.
Speaker 2: And it's just it's just it's just a bad feeling.
Speaker 3: And there's another team that's gonna suffer. I hate to
Speaker 3: go off topic. I know we're not talking about this
Speaker 3: to night, but the Indianapolis Colts, that's another team that's
Speaker 3: going to suffer for not.
Speaker 2: Wanting to pay in elite running.
Speaker 3: Back at the position he helped that.
Speaker 2: Hey, let me ask you a question. Let me question.
Speaker 3: Don't do that. You know that sometimes you gotta play
Speaker 3: the game. Sometimes you gotta play the game. You know
Speaker 3: we're not hurt.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm just I'm just saying, let me ask you
Speaker 1: a question. You think let me Okay, you take you
Speaker 1: take a medical lead? Yeah, how many jobs gonna give
Speaker 1: you a raise doing a medical lead?
Speaker 3: We depending on how good you are, It don't matter
Speaker 3: at the depending on depending on how let's let depending
Speaker 3: on how good you are with me having a great
Speaker 3: understanding of what I'm getting.
Speaker 2: Business on a medical lead?
Speaker 1: Your businessman, somebody, what are your workers? Your worker comes
Speaker 1: to you and he says, oh, you I want to
Speaker 1: raise but before you give me that raise, I'm going
Speaker 1: this medical lead for about three four weeks.
Speaker 3: No, hold on, hold on, I'm not even gonna play
Speaker 3: the game with him though, I'm not gonna play the name.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you why. I'm not what I'm gonna
Speaker 3: pay you. Whether I'm gonna pay you or not, it's
Speaker 3: based on how good you are. How good he is
Speaker 3: is right there. You can't take that from him. All
Speaker 3: was turn the film on you understand how, yes, Jonathan
Speaker 3: Taylor is for that coach offense. Not only do you
Speaker 3: have a rookie quarterback. Not only do you have a
Speaker 3: rookie quarterback. He has no outlet. You know, if if
Speaker 3: hell if I forgot what mc grandma used to say,
Speaker 3: if if he needed somewhere to go, if he had
Speaker 3: a blindfold on, if he was wearing a blindfold and
Speaker 3: he snapped the ball and needed somewhere to go with
Speaker 3: the ball. Jonathan Taylor is the one person that he
Speaker 3: can count on on all three downs, the one person
Speaker 3: you can count on on all three downs.
Speaker 2: He is a three down back.
Speaker 1: But I also think what hurt some of the running
Speaker 1: backs is that when they paid some of the other
Speaker 1: running backs that came before them, they immediately the production
Speaker 1: dropped or they got injured. You remember when Jonathan Taylor,
Speaker 1: he came out the eighteen hundred yard season, he got
Speaker 1: hurt last year. This is TA ball, So what you
Speaker 1: want me to do?
Speaker 3: You but you're paying your quarterbacks forty and fifty million,
Speaker 3: And we talked about using injury as an excuse not
Speaker 3: to pay a running back.
Speaker 1: That's what they do because he play a more dangerous position,
Speaker 1: you know what.
Speaker 2: I just but see, see.
Speaker 1: If you'd have got to get if you got your
Speaker 1: if you'd got to guarantee contract, but you ain't got
Speaker 1: a practical once.
Speaker 2: A day in training camp O Joe. That's all you
Speaker 2: practice was a day. You straight. That's a good comeback,
Speaker 2: and that's a good comeback.
Speaker 1: But if you think about it, got it seems and
Speaker 1: I could be wrong because I don't have any data,
Speaker 1: but it damn sure seems like guys get hurt more now.
Speaker 1: And they practiced less than they did when we played,
Speaker 1: and we practiced more because I had coach Reeves with
Speaker 1: my coach and he was a coach Landry knockoff.
Speaker 2: If we got it, we got it in.
Speaker 3: I think one of the reasons that more people are
Speaker 3: getting having soft tissue injuries, or they're breaking stuff, or
Speaker 3: the body's falling apart, and they're much younger, and you
Speaker 3: shouldn't be getting hurt when you're this young. Is the
Speaker 3: fact that one, you don't practice enough, you don't put
Speaker 3: the body has to go through ringer. Yes, the body
Speaker 3: has to build a callous and and and be run
Speaker 3: not into the ground, but just run at high speeds. Yes,
Speaker 3: until it's time to go. Because when it's time to go,
Speaker 3: you ready to go, and you ain't pulling nothing. That
Speaker 3: also number two nutrition, they ain't eating right. They're not
Speaker 3: eating right. They're putting all this green stuff in the
Speaker 3: boy eating all this healthy stuff.
Speaker 1: Man, go ahead, then you listen.
Speaker 3: That's not helping the body. That's not helping you be
Speaker 3: able to go out there and perform at a high level.
Speaker 2: At does not Shannon Sharp does not approve this message
Speaker 2: that OO is. I'm just telling you that. I'm just
Speaker 2: telling you what it is.
Speaker 1: But I tell you what I do think it is.
Speaker 1: I don't think these guys give their boy enough time
Speaker 1: to recover because soon as the season or what.
Speaker 3: They're not doing, they're not doing nothing. What they recovering from.
Speaker 3: But what are they recovering from.
Speaker 1: As soon as the season over with, the guys are
Speaker 1: right back doing speed workouts, back right back doing Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm back in the laugh bro.
Speaker 2: Give your body a chance to recover.
Speaker 1: I don't care the NFL season, even though Ocho the
Speaker 1: rules are a lot different than when I came into
Speaker 1: the league. Whenever I was trying to transition and it
Speaker 1: got it's a little different than when you left the league,
Speaker 1: But you still got to give your body a chance
Speaker 1: to recover because you still went out there and did
Speaker 1: what you did over the course of five six months.
Speaker 2: Right, I don't, I don't, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think I gradually started. Yes, super Bowl ended with February.
Speaker 3: I think I gradually started the first week of March. Yes,
Speaker 3: we built my way into the program. Yes, I went
Speaker 3: into an off season program in some type of shape,
Speaker 3: and then I went on from there and built my
Speaker 3: way into getting in and play in shape or whatever
Speaker 3: it is I need to do.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, Well I did. I did my own thing,
Speaker 1: and that's how it was. I took the whole month
Speaker 1: of February off. I would gradually build each each week
Speaker 1: in March. By the time May rolled around, I was
Speaker 1: probably seventy five percent of where I needed to be,
Speaker 1: knowing that I had June in July because training camp
Speaker 1: was going to start to the end of July.
Speaker 2: Hey, I was I was ready to go. I was
Speaker 2: ready to go.
Speaker 3: I really want to I really wanted to talk to
Speaker 3: some of these individuals that continue to get hurt.
Speaker 2: Okay, what would you tell them, Cooper Cup?
Speaker 3: Yes, y'all, come on over here to me, Cooper Cup,
Speaker 3: come on over to me. Let me talk to you.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you what I did because I played
Speaker 3: twelve thirteen, yeah, thirteen years, no injuries, not one, not one.
Speaker 2: Sometimes they might have one balances, now you.
Speaker 3: Know, yeah, in balance, they ain't eating right. That's one.
Speaker 2: In balance.
Speaker 3: They're not eating right, and they're not bad food it.
Speaker 3: They're not putting their body through the ringer enough. I
Speaker 3: took every rep, scout team, first team, I ran down
Speaker 3: on special teams.
Speaker 2: I'm doing all this o jo.
Speaker 1: You do realize that when you play a professional sport,
Speaker 1: especially the sport of football, and you don't get injured,
Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of luck in that.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of no, no, no, did don't do that.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of luck. It is it is. It
Speaker 2: is no luck, no luck.
Speaker 3: Listen, it's called preparation. It's called preparation, you know, you
Speaker 3: know in the summer when I was a little kid.
Speaker 2: Right, listen to me. And where where you grew up
Speaker 2: at we grew U grew up in South Georgia. You
Speaker 2: grew up in South Georgia. I grew up in Liberty City.
Speaker 3: In the summer, I couldn't go in the house, No,
Speaker 3: of course I had. I couldn't go in the house. Grandma,
Speaker 3: I'm trying to come in and get something to drink. Now,
Speaker 3: go to the water holes on the side of the
Speaker 3: house and drink from the water holes.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, absolutely, that's the way it was. Yes. Did
Speaker 2: you get hurt when? Did you get hurt when you
Speaker 2: were little? If you got hurt, well, you.
Speaker 3: Get hurt when you were little, is what I'm asking.
Speaker 2: I'm sure.
Speaker 1: I'm sure I got hurt. But you weren't going to
Speaker 1: the doctor to do what? Who going to the doctor?
Speaker 2: Ocho?
Speaker 3: Hey, did y'all have y'all had the Candy Lady House
Speaker 3: where you from? Did you have the Candon Lady House
Speaker 3: in South Georgia. Did y'all have frozen cups?
Speaker 2: Did you eat frozen cups? No? No, we didn't. I'm
Speaker 2: from the country.
Speaker 1: I had a route. I had route four, box three
Speaker 1: eighty five. Anybody that knows about this in the South,
Speaker 1: where you have a route number you in the country?
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, yes, I'm just I'm just trying to give
Speaker 3: you a better understand on fast food.
Speaker 2: Fast food is not to answer people.
Speaker 1: Fast food is good and moderation for what he's tried,
Speaker 1: he's tried to get you to do as a high
Speaker 1: as a high powered athlete.
Speaker 2: Question.
Speaker 3: Listen, the high power athletes keep getting injured year in
Speaker 3: and year out. The numbers continue to increase.
Speaker 2: Tom Brady didn't get injured? What Tom Brady didn't get injured?
Speaker 2: He didn't. He didn't get hurt. He got hurt one
Speaker 2: time in twenty three seasons.
Speaker 3: Okay, so why listen, why do we get how many?
Speaker 2: How many? How many injuries you think you would have
Speaker 2: had if you'd played twenty three seasons? None? You wouldn't none. O.
Speaker 2: Stop it.
Speaker 3: I haven't got hurt yet. I'm fifty five, I ain't.
Speaker 2: Been hurt yet, and I'm still active. I'm still playing.
Speaker 1: You you ain't football actor. Go out there, go out
Speaker 1: there and catch that three I bet you won't go
Speaker 1: I didn't catch that three slips.
Speaker 3: And when I when I caught him, when I was playing,
Speaker 3: I made a business decision.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna get hurt. Just how you hell would
Speaker 2: be looking. You bet the ear hole be right there.
Speaker 3: Listen, if if it came down to it, if push
Speaker 3: came to shove, I can go out there right now.
Speaker 3: I put up fourteen hundred right now, fourteen hundred what
Speaker 3: fourteen hundred yards?
Speaker 2: You you would be talking that a B lead that
Speaker 2: a B that.
Speaker 3: Have you not seen the rules? You can't touch, you
Speaker 3: can't hit nobody, you can't do nothing. You they basically
Speaker 3: playing with flags out there. I'm not getting fourteen hundred
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 2: O Jo, you donet been away from the game. You
Speaker 2: don't forgot how to.
Speaker 3: Fall, bro Listen, I don't forget. I ain't good. I
Speaker 3: did jiu jitsu just like tour. I know how to
Speaker 3: okay okay jiu jitsu. But you know, you know, even
Speaker 3: when you leave the game, you take that time off
Speaker 3: from the time the season end until it starts. Your
Speaker 3: spidery senses have to start tingling because you gotta know where.
Speaker 1: Okay, I ran this route. It was this coverage that
Speaker 1: HiT's gonna come from this place. So I ran this
Speaker 1: route and it can't. So you got to feel that
Speaker 1: all over again. So now you don't. But Bro, you'd
Speaker 1: have been away from the game for a decade.
Speaker 3: Listen, I've been away from the game for a decade,
Speaker 3: but I still remember. I still remember coverages. I play Madden.
Speaker 3: I play Madden. So Madden Madden in real life is
Speaker 3: really the same thing. It's the same.
Speaker 2: No, it's not really the same.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm telling you it is. You just got you
Speaker 3: gotta know the game. I know the game.
Speaker 2: Listen to me.
Speaker 3: Listen, Shannon, one thing about it. I lie for you
Speaker 3: before I lie to you.
Speaker 2: I can. Yeah, you're fourteen hundred right now. Well you
Speaker 2: lying on me right now.
Speaker 1: So with this you mentioned earlier, Tyreek said he wants
Speaker 1: to be the first guy to eclipse two thousand yard
Speaker 1: and he's gonna do that. He has eleven for two fifteen.
Speaker 1: I thought he was on his way until tour got hurt.
Speaker 1: Remember too, it got hurt last year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, he got ding.
Speaker 1: Towards the end of the season. With a foot injury. Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you believe to it can go over too? I mean,
Speaker 1: do you believe Tyreek can go over two thousand bushes?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, he can go over to He can go over
Speaker 3: two thousand. For one, what they do offensively, they put
Speaker 3: him in positions and create mismatches.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, with different.
Speaker 3: Formations, and they have special play design for him just
Speaker 3: to get him the ball. The funny thing about each
Speaker 3: play where they are on the field, Tyreek Hill is.
Speaker 2: A home run hitter. He's a threat.
Speaker 3: He's a home but he's a threat from anywhere on
Speaker 3: the field. And you make one mistake, you take one
Speaker 3: wrong angle, or you miss the tackle, he's gone.
Speaker 2: He's going to the house.
Speaker 3: One of the few players in the NFL back and
Speaker 3: do that where he is a threat from anywhere on
Speaker 3: the field, everybody ain't like that. So him saying I
Speaker 3: want to get or reach two thousand yards, it's possible,
Speaker 3: especially after the day.
Speaker 2: It's week one.
Speaker 3: How you got twenty fifteen yards already? Yeah, it's a
Speaker 3: no video game, this is real life.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: The thing what makes him so dangerous because like you said,
Speaker 1: he's one of the there's only a handful of guys
Speaker 1: that could take a five yard route and turn it
Speaker 1: into an eighty five yard spectacular.
Speaker 2: There are very few guys.
Speaker 1: And because you look he he has track speed, but
Speaker 1: he's built like a football player. I played with a
Speaker 1: lot of guys that. James Jack was on the gold
Speaker 1: medal winning team at the Olympics in ninety two. Sam
Speaker 1: Graddy Wonder was the silver medicine in one hundred meters.
Speaker 1: He won the gold Mellan eighty for the relay team.
Speaker 1: But they were frail. They were thinly wind re built.
Speaker 2: If you if you've ever been up close to Tyreek
Speaker 2: he put together.
Speaker 1: He's a big old ball of muscle and you could
Speaker 1: tell that he's explosive and he can. He's turned himself
Speaker 1: into a very good route runner because before when he
Speaker 1: first got into the league, he was a return guy
Speaker 1: and a gadget guy, right, but he said, you know what,
Speaker 1: he worked on his game.
Speaker 2: He can run the route tree.
Speaker 1: And a guy with that kind of speed that can
Speaker 1: run the route tree, you got hell on your hands on.
Speaker 2: Joe do with that.
Speaker 3: And the funny thing about it is, most of the time,
Speaker 3: you know, you get very few receivers at that size
Speaker 3: that can play all the way out wide on the outside,
Speaker 3: not wide. You can put him in the backfield.
Speaker 2: Yes, you can put in.
Speaker 3: He can play the three, he can play the two.
Speaker 3: He can be anywhere on the field. So when I
Speaker 3: think about with the creativity that they have and what
Speaker 3: they could do with him offensively, him reaching two thousand
Speaker 3: is nothing.
Speaker 2: It's nothing.
Speaker 3: And especially when you get him acclimated into the offense
Speaker 3: and integrated into the offense and you and you winning
Speaker 3: and you get results like today.
Speaker 1: The thing is, he's one of those guys, and that's
Speaker 1: what happened with the guys like himself. If you get
Speaker 1: him going early, if you get him going, If no,
Speaker 1: you don't have to get him going, but throw him
Speaker 1: a few balls, let him feel them, let him feel
Speaker 1: the ball touch his hands. Then you got it for
Speaker 1: the rest of the game, the rest of the game.
Speaker 1: And Mike does a great job. He'll throw him a smoke,
Speaker 1: he'll throw him speed out, He'll do something to let
Speaker 1: him feel the ball. And today, I don't know what
Speaker 1: the charge you were thinking. I don't know why you
Speaker 1: would ever single him up. He looks. They can talk
Speaker 1: about whatever they want to. He's the most dangerous man
Speaker 1: in football. Regardless of position I'm talking about. If you
Speaker 1: talk about Aaron Donald, I'm talking about you talking about
Speaker 1: t J. Watt, if you talk about Miles Garrett, if
Speaker 1: you talk about Trent Williams. He is the most feared
Speaker 1: man in football.
Speaker 3: This is one of the things a lot of people
Speaker 3: get on me all the time. They always they always
Speaker 3: talk about you know, they ask me my top five
Speaker 3: receivers in the league. And one of the things that
Speaker 3: I rarely do is I rarely named Tyreek Hill. I
Speaker 3: really named Tyreek Hill because Tyreek Hill is in the
Speaker 3: class of his own. He's in the category of his
Speaker 3: own until I can think of a category where deserving
Speaker 3: to put him in. You know, he stands alone in
Speaker 3: his own right because of how special he is to
Speaker 3: the game in the position of playing wide receiver. And
Speaker 3: I just it's no, it's no disrespect to him. And
Speaker 3: just dude, you different, You different. There are no word
Speaker 3: to describe you when we're talking about other receivers because
Speaker 3: you're in a class all by yourself.
Speaker 1: Well, he definitely needs to be ninety nine. I don't
Speaker 1: know what y'all what y'all criteria is.
Speaker 2: Ninety eight right now? He needs to be not well,
Speaker 2: he needs to be one hundred. About one hundred, because
Speaker 2: I know he's a ninety eight.
Speaker 3: I'm the mad rings of justter and what I can
Speaker 3: do and what I probably will do tomorrow. Internally, I'll
Speaker 3: go in myself and I will make him a ninety
Speaker 3: nine myself, and if I get fired, I'm okay, and
Speaker 3: I'm gonna stand on that based off what he was
Speaker 3: able to do today, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, consider what he did last year.
Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, he's had like five years
Speaker 1: of the row where he's been fourteen fifteen hundred.
Speaker 2: Yards crazy numbers. Last year worked eight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, last year he was seventeen hundred, and he was
Speaker 1: injured like the last three games. So two thousand is
Speaker 1: definitely not out of the realm of possibility or probability.
Speaker 1: But I just I just love watching him and play
Speaker 1: because I love the enthusiasm and the passion in which
Speaker 1: he plays with.
Speaker 2: He's one of the few, one of the few.
Speaker 3: It's about about four of them. But I remember, you
Speaker 3: remember Peter Warck right when Peter World was at Florida State. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And I used to when I used to watch Peter
Speaker 3: Ward play him, Reggie Bush and Tyreek Hill when they
Speaker 3: get the ball, you hold your breath because you don't
Speaker 3: know what happened. Right, It's a different type of excitement.
Speaker 3: Michael Vick dropping back and scrambling. You hold your breath
Speaker 3: so you don't know what's gonna happen. It's it's a
Speaker 3: certain type of excitement that very few people bring to
Speaker 3: the game. And I'm talking, I'm dating back from when
Speaker 3: football started.
Speaker 2: Very few.
Speaker 3: It's a handful like, oh my goodness, what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: That's how special Tyreek Hill is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like he was like Barry.
Speaker 1: I mean, you had to see watching Barry on TV
Speaker 1: doesn't do him, just doesn't do barr sayt this justice,
Speaker 1: you had justice. You had to see him up close
Speaker 1: to see. I've never seen a man jump stop with
Speaker 1: both feet. Normally you know they play, but he jumped
Speaker 1: up with both feet. It would accelerate again. O Joe, congratulations,
Speaker 1: I'm excited. Yes, O Joe, this was our bad first episode.
Speaker 1: We're only gonna get bigger, We're only gonna get better.
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