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<v Speaker 2>It's me Carlos kings the King of Reality TV and

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<v Speaker 2>one of the most sought after executive producers in reality

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<v Speaker 2>television with over ten years a production experience. From Reality

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<v Speaker 2>with the King, We'll sit down with my friends across

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<v Speaker 2>the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit

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<v Speaker 2>unforgettable moments that we are still talking and tweeting about.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey rain Drops.

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<v Speaker 2>For today's episode, Reality to the King, we have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot to discuss. A lot has been going on in

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<v Speaker 2>all of the Bravo land and today I am joined

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<v Speaker 2>by a friend of mine who is also like an

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<v Speaker 2>amazing journalist.

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<v Speaker 1>He also is a producer.

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<v Speaker 2>And he is also like a personality. But today we

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<v Speaker 2>are diving into an amazing article with an exclusive te

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<v Speaker 2>that he wrote about the state of Vanda pump rules.

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<v Speaker 2>We will also get into some housewife stuff as well,

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<v Speaker 2>but please rain drops help me and welcoming on my guests.

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<v Speaker 2>The One, Honey, the Only the Man. Jack Peter said,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you from the Daily Mail.

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<v Speaker 3>Honey, I feel like I've been trying to get on

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<v Speaker 3>Reality with the King since you've launched, so it's finally happened.

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<v Speaker 3>I had to move here from Australia fore to have

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<v Speaker 3>me on that. I'm here, so better let than never.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I love you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>It was funny, is I was on your podcast a

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<v Speaker 2>few years ago and you still have it unpopular?

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<v Speaker 3>Well you talk about the podcast, Yeah, I do it

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<v Speaker 3>on Patreon now, So I just I mean, I moved

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<v Speaker 3>to LA and I'm just so busy with work. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>trying to produce some shows and stuff behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just too much, so I do it on

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<v Speaker 3>Patreon now. But it was funny because I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>when I had you on my podcast, you were one

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<v Speaker 3>of my first guests. That episode did so well, and

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<v Speaker 3>that was before you had Reality with the King. It

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<v Speaker 3>was before you were doing a lot of podcasts. So

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I got Colors King very early on.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I need to have anyone, and now

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<v Speaker 3>you're like so huge in this podcasting world.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Notice the people like you who envite me in the

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<v Speaker 2>podcast because we follow eachron on social media and you

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<v Speaker 2>were and it's funny because you just said, can you

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<v Speaker 2>go my podcast?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, yes, I like you. We kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>Agree on the same things on Twitter. To think about you,

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<v Speaker 2>that's so interesting. You have the best, funniest takes. Even

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<v Speaker 2>if I disagree with you, I just like it when

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<v Speaker 2>you're funny and shady and listen, you're my type of

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<v Speaker 2>boy hoody.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'll just say I don't care what anyone thinks.

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<v Speaker 3>I will just say it, like so I will go there.

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<v Speaker 3>And I've actually, like I pulled back from tweeting about

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<v Speaker 3>housewives maybe like a year or two ago, just because

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<v Speaker 3>it was like, you know, the fandom is so intense,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's not that I care about getting hated on.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just like it just became exhausting. Like it

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<v Speaker 3>was just because you know, I would always have the

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<v Speaker 3>hot take, and I would just every day I would

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<v Speaker 3>wake up with you know, Garcells fans or like whoever,

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<v Speaker 3>or people you know get upset if I defend Erica

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<v Speaker 3>Jane or something. So I'm just like this is exhausting.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, I like that you like to put

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<v Speaker 3>the unpopular opinions out there too. You always defend the villain,

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<v Speaker 3>like we're both Tamera fans, so yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, no.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of those things where it's like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>here to just join the popular vote. If we all

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<v Speaker 2>have the same opinion, that's great, you know, But one

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<v Speaker 2>thing I do, I never try to be on the

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<v Speaker 2>side of like what's correct, Like, oh well everyone feels

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<v Speaker 2>this way and join in. If I disagree, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>say it. And it's okay to have a difference of opinions.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's get into the Vandam Pump rules of it all,

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<v Speaker 2>because it has been reported that the show is in

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<v Speaker 2>dire need of a possible reboot or is it a

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<v Speaker 2>cancelation or is it on pause indefinitely?

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<v Speaker 1>And I want to hear from you what is going on.

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<v Speaker 1>We love Vanda Pump rules.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the show had a second win when the

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<v Speaker 2>scandal all drama of it all happened. Then last season

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<v Speaker 2>I think all of us felt like we're kind of

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<v Speaker 2>tired of little scandaval story that's dominating the storylines and

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<v Speaker 2>we want to see something different and fresh, and based

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<v Speaker 2>on the finale, it did appear that these co stars,

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<v Speaker 2>these cast mates were not in the best place, and

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<v Speaker 2>then at the reunion it was sort of like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't like each other, so what is going on

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<v Speaker 2>with band the Pump Rules?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so they are trying to figure out what to

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<v Speaker 3>do with this show because you know, I did an

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<v Speaker 3>article for Daily Mail and there was a few issues.

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<v Speaker 3>One of them was like, there's some salary stuff, but

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<v Speaker 3>really that's not the main thing. It's like, you can

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<v Speaker 3>always work out salaries. There's so many things you can

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<v Speaker 3>do when people go, well, I'm not going to film

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<v Speaker 3>unless they get this much money. But you know, people

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<v Speaker 3>usually buckle at the eleventh hour, So that's not really

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<v Speaker 3>the main thing. The main thing is just that this

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<v Speaker 3>is a show about a group of friends, and it

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<v Speaker 3>is so fractured at this point. Like it's not just

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<v Speaker 3>like the two people weren't film with each other. It's

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<v Speaker 3>like everybody has splintered off into their own little groups

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<v Speaker 3>and it's just kind of like, how do we organically

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<v Speaker 3>put these people back together. There's going to be resolution

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<v Speaker 3>where they can have fun together, where new storylines can

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<v Speaker 3>come out because everyone has kind of like dug their

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<v Speaker 3>heels in, Like there are so many people on this

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<v Speaker 3>show that are not talking to each other. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>Scandalval really raised everybody's profiles to the point that so

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<v Speaker 3>many of them are just like busy with their own ventures.

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<v Speaker 3>Like even Lala, Like she's on that Amazon freaking live

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<v Speaker 3>every day and she's probably making like good money on that,

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<v Speaker 3>and like you know, Ariana of course is like booked

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<v Speaker 3>and busy with ten different jobs, and Katie's got a

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<v Speaker 3>podcast now and the sandwich shop. I know that James Kennedy,

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<v Speaker 3>I think he actually may have made the most money

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<v Speaker 3>off Scandabal, even more than Ariana, because those DJing gigs

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<v Speaker 3>are so lucrative and he was just playing like he

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<v Speaker 3>was playing just like back to back shows. Like I

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<v Speaker 3>remember I even interviewed him for the season last season

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<v Speaker 3>promo and he was in a hotel room somewhere because literally,

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<v Speaker 3>like when they were not filming, he was off playing

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<v Speaker 3>DJ gigs. So really produces like how do we move forward?

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<v Speaker 3>Do we just bring everybody back and do a barewell

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<v Speaker 3>season and just see what happens? Do we get rid

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<v Speaker 3>of some people, do we bring back some old people?

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<v Speaker 3>Do we completely reboot it. Do we bringing new people

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<v Speaker 3>and they're trying to figure it out. So that's where

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<v Speaker 3>it's at.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the show started out, you know, season one, episode

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<v Speaker 2>one of this organic group of people who worked between

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<v Speaker 2>there was Sir Right and the Leablanca.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that is that correct?

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<v Speaker 2>Like those two restaurants, and they were friends, some are friendemies,

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<v Speaker 2>some were sleeping with each other. And Angie Cohen has

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<v Speaker 2>said publicly that when Lisa Banda pub and the producers

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<v Speaker 2>were talking about this show, he was even like, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>this is really happening, and when he saw the people

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<v Speaker 2>obviously great cast, young, And one thing that a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people may not realize is Bravo took a big

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<v Speaker 2>risk with this show because the height of Bravo back

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<v Speaker 2>in that day was like these shows about middle aged

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<v Speaker 2>women who lived behind the gates and it was Housewives,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you have Million Dollar Listing, which was again

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<v Speaker 2>focused on at that time men, middle aged men with

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<v Speaker 2>these million dollar houses. Doc the Peruke was about a

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<v Speaker 2>group of cast members who lived in a shitty apartment.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. But what we all did when we were

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<v Speaker 1>first starting out.

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<v Speaker 2>They were waiters and hostess and waitresses and they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have two pennies to rub some of them, and they

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<v Speaker 2>were trying to make it big in Hollywood, right, So

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<v Speaker 2>I want people to know that Bravo took a big

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<v Speaker 2>risk with this show. It paved off, it instantly became

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<v Speaker 2>and what are we like ten years later into this show,

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<v Speaker 2>and like you said earlier, La La is super rich,

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<v Speaker 2>the cats are millionaires. Do you feel like the show

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<v Speaker 2>has lost its plot with the fact that people enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>these twenty somethings who were trying to make it in Hollywood,

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<v Speaker 2>and now that they made it in Hollywood, the show

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<v Speaker 2>isn't what people bought into anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, look, every show has to evolve to stay on

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<v Speaker 3>air for that long, especially a reality show, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>because you've got to follow people's reality. I think there

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<v Speaker 3>was a problem for a while where they really kept

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<v Speaker 3>trying to hang on to them working at the bar,

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<v Speaker 3>which they did for a long time. I mean, even

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<v Speaker 3>by like season three, vander Pump Rules was a blockbuster success,

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<v Speaker 3>So it wasn't even realistic at that point for them

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<v Speaker 3>to be working in these restaurants and being you know,

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<v Speaker 3>waiters and waitresses. So at this point it's ridiculous, But

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<v Speaker 3>I do feel like they had moved away from that

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<v Speaker 3>a lot, and then they started leaning into things where

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<v Speaker 3>like the Toms were opening their own bar, and then

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<v Speaker 3>Arianna and Katie were opening their sandwich shop. Also shout

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<v Speaker 3>out to Something about Her. I live near West Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 3>I go to Something about Her all the time. I

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<v Speaker 3>love her. The sandwiches are really good and they're affordable too,

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<v Speaker 3>like you get like a big serving. So for the

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<v Speaker 3>Something about Her haters, honestly like based some good sandwiches.

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<v Speaker 3>But anyway, I think they were evolving the show. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's fine. It was like as long as these

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<v Speaker 3>were people that do hang out together, it made sense.

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<v Speaker 3>And like this group does know each other because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in Hollywood now and I'm going out and I

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm in the media, so I get invited

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<v Speaker 3>to these things and I'll go to an event and

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<v Speaker 3>it's like I'll see the people from the Valley and

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<v Speaker 3>then Sheen is there and you know, they're interacting and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is very much a real group. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>just at this point it's like not so much. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it's so fractured.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that seems to be the situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think the cast is jealous of the fame

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<v Speaker 2>and notoriety that Arianna has received since the scandal mall scandal.

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<v Speaker 3>I think some of them are to varying degrees.

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<v Speaker 1>Who are some of them?

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<v Speaker 3>You think, Joh I think Lala is jealous, But I

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<v Speaker 3>will say that I think it's completely justifiable that she's

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<v Speaker 3>jealous because it's like Lala and the rest of the

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<v Speaker 3>cast like busted their fucking asses for this show for

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<v Speaker 3>like a decade, putting it all out there, the craziest drama,

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<v Speaker 3>and like it's all come out now that you know

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<v Speaker 3>Arianna and Tom Sandoval when they were together, like they

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<v Speaker 3>were having problems for a really long time, and they

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<v Speaker 3>were putting on like a facade for the cameras, and

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<v Speaker 3>Arianna like really didn't get involved in that much drama,

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<v Speaker 3>like she was doing seasons. I remember where it's like

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<v Speaker 3>her storyline was, I have anxiety and she would like

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<v Speaker 3>go over to like Lisa vander Pump's house have a

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<v Speaker 3>cup of tea, Like she was not doing anything interesting,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was literally at the point where it was like, girl,

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<v Speaker 3>if you were not part of this, like Tom sanderb

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<v Speaker 3>Old package, like you would not be on the show anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's like no shade to Ariana, Like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I met her out once and she seemed lovely, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm happy for her success and stuff. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not like an Ariana hater. But it's just like you

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<v Speaker 3>did not pull your weight on this show where you

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<v Speaker 3>have everybody else that is like cheating and getting into

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<v Speaker 3>these crazy scandals and fighting with each other and throwing

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<v Speaker 3>drinks on each other, like you did not do any

0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:28.960
<v Speaker 3>of that, and it's like she wasn't even you know,

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes some shows will have like the boring cast member

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<v Speaker 3>or the nicest cast member, but they serve like a

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<v Speaker 3>very important purpose, Like maybe they're the one that just

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<v Speaker 3>like cuts through all the bs, like Eileen was so

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<v Speaker 3>great on you know, Beverly Hills for that. They can

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<v Speaker 3>be really insightful.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Eileen. I missed her and I want her

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<v Speaker 1>to come back. Anybody that says send them back in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Mail, or you know the way she used to check

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<v Speaker 2>Brandy when Brandy was like Kyle, I'm sorry, ravedropts, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>like bird, but I gotta talk about this really bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Eileen is such an icon, a legend when Eileen had

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<v Speaker 1>a poker party and Kyle.

0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:13.480
<v Speaker 2>And Brandy had that physical contact where like Brandy like kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of push Kyle and conflict whatever. And then Brandy is

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<v Speaker 1>reciting a story. I think to Kim, somebody maybe Lisa

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<v Speaker 1>Rena and I Lead listens to the story and.

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<v Speaker 2>Said, girl get a grip like and walked away, like

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<v Speaker 2>Aileen is so underrated. She is a fucking icon, a legend.

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<v Speaker 2>She is so funny and I'm sorry to interrupt your story.

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<v Speaker 3>I just have to say that, no, no, I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, any chance I can get to slip in,

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<v Speaker 3>and Eileen Davidson mentioned I will. I actually think she's

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<v Speaker 3>one of the top five Beverly Hills housewives ever. She

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<v Speaker 3>was incredible, and she was kind of like the first

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<v Speaker 3>one that was not afraid of Lisa Vanda Pump because

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<v Speaker 3>some of the other girls went against Lisavanda Pump and

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<v Speaker 3>then they would buckle, but like Eileen didn't give a fuck,

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<v Speaker 3>like she went there. She people forget that, like if

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<v Speaker 3>you go back and watch that season, Lisa Rinner is

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<v Speaker 3>kind of trying to like straddle the fence because she

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<v Speaker 3>hadn't fully turned on vander Pump yet, and Eileen was

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<v Speaker 3>kind of the one that's like, no, what vantam pub

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<v Speaker 3>is doing is fucked up. Girl, Like snap out of it.

0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:21.600
<v Speaker 3>And she kind of like got Lisa Rinner to become

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<v Speaker 3>like who she became. So anyway, shout out Eileen, But

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying that Ariana was no Eileen. She was

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<v Speaker 3>no Cynthia Bailey, she was no nothing. And I get

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<v Speaker 3>why people would be jealous because it's like, girl, you

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<v Speaker 3>did the least on this show and then became not

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<v Speaker 3>only the biggest star on the show, like one of

0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:46.280
<v Speaker 3>the biggest stars in reality TV period. You are getting

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<v Speaker 3>booked in movies, you were on Dancing with the Stars,

0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:52.960
<v Speaker 3>you were hosting Love Island, you were making millions from

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<v Speaker 3>the best social media endorsements. So the jealousy is completely

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<v Speaker 3>fined by me. And I am a fan of La

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<v Speaker 3>LA's as well, because you know, I've always found laa

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<v Speaker 3>kind of annoying. But I feel like that last season

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<v Speaker 3>she was so brave to be the one to put

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<v Speaker 3>her hand up and be like, you know what, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>fucking say what we're all thinking, because we cannot have

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<v Speaker 3>a whole season where every single person on the cast

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<v Speaker 3>is scared to question anything, to do with Oriana just

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<v Speaker 3>because she's a fan favorite. So Lala was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna be the one that goes who gets cheated

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<v Speaker 3>on and becomes Beyonce. And of course, you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>person that I think that works the hardest on these

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<v Speaker 3>shows is often the most hated on. Like I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>that happened to Lisa Rinna, it's happening to Tamra now,

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<v Speaker 3>Like not to get into all the OC of it all,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's like, girl, I imagine if Alexis and Tamra, like

0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:50.760
<v Speaker 3>imagine they didn't bring Alexis back and Tamra wasn't clocking

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<v Speaker 3>in on this season of OC, like, you wouldn't even

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<v Speaker 3>really have a season. So anyway, shout out to the villains.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, listen, you don't love the villains because they entertainers

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<v Speaker 2>in you guys cannot have every bill and get fired

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<v Speaker 2>from the show. Sean sa Tama judge who I know

0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:11.280
<v Speaker 2>Jock also is a fan of as well. So speaking

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<v Speaker 2>of villains, la La has emerged as this villain only

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<v Speaker 2>because she did what you said. She addressed the elephant

0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:24.320
<v Speaker 2>in the room that we're all dancing around the fact

0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:26.120
<v Speaker 2>that all of us but I'll say it, but we

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<v Speaker 2>all feel this way that this woman has to come

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<v Speaker 2>Beyonce because she got cheated on and the woman who.

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<v Speaker 1>Gave the leads to the show by proxy got cheated

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<v Speaker 1>on by the star.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the show Tom And all of a sudden she's

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<v Speaker 2>getting the main segment on the view where they changed

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<v Speaker 2>the entire set to replicate.

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<v Speaker 1>What was it? Sir?

0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:54.600
<v Speaker 2>I think they tried to replicate it was And the

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<v Speaker 2>whole time with be Goldberg is like, what is going on?

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<v Speaker 2>But I guess this is a big deal. We'll we

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<v Speaker 2>go work in That second was so funny because she's

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<v Speaker 2>sort of like, Okay, so you got cheated on.

0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:13.399
<v Speaker 1>Your boyfriend, got it? What else is Nio like?

0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:19.040
<v Speaker 2>But so so Lala listen to La LA's point, Arianna

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<v Speaker 2>did emerge like you said to become in twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 2>and I have to give it to her. She is

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest starm Bramo like she is in twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>She she really is. Not too many people can say

0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:38.639
<v Speaker 2>they're hosting the number one daty show on Peacack, a

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<v Speaker 2>show that has international appeal. She also did a this

0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:51.040
<v Speaker 2>This After Emmy's Fashion you Know special with Nini leaks

0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:55.840
<v Speaker 2>and Justin Silvester on e she was Roxy in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, so if you are Laala or the other women,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Sena, if you are these these these women

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<v Speaker 2>who gave so much personal story to the show, I

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<v Speaker 2>understand why Lalla is frustrated. I too would be frustrated

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<v Speaker 2>if I gave my blood, sweat and tears to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>And now we're forced to see this woman emerge as

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<v Speaker 2>the star. So what we did learn at the reunion

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<v Speaker 2>and what we learned this article is the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>the show is a hit, and allegedly the cast is

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<v Speaker 2>asking for more money, and allegedly your sources is saying

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<v Speaker 2>that the network feels that this show is becoming too

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<v Speaker 2>expensive to even do another season.

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<v Speaker 1>If they're able to do one currently.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know they're figuring it out, because you have

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<v Speaker 3>to remember, it's a this is a huge cost, like

0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:58.040
<v Speaker 3>this is a bigger cost than other shows. And with Bravo,

0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:00.439
<v Speaker 3>you go up more money the law longer that you

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<v Speaker 3>stay on the show, and this will go into season

0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:09.120
<v Speaker 3>twelve now, and then people did negotiate pay rises after Scandaval,

0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:12.399
<v Speaker 3>So there's definitely a financial element that they're trying to

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<v Speaker 3>figure out. But again, it all goes back to like

0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:17.240
<v Speaker 3>at the end of like you can always figure out

0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:19.960
<v Speaker 3>financial stuff. Like I know, I'm not going to name

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<v Speaker 3>who it is, but I know that there was a

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<v Speaker 3>cast member a couple of seasons ago who actually was

0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:29.720
<v Speaker 3>demoted and people could but they still were showing up

0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:32.680
<v Speaker 3>like a main But what happened was they were sort

0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:35.000
<v Speaker 3>of thinking, we don't know if this person's bringing enough,

0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:37.520
<v Speaker 3>so they switched them to like a to pay them

0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:41.600
<v Speaker 3>by scene instead of having like a lump sum. So

0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:43.280
<v Speaker 3>it's like they really had to like show up to

0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:46.000
<v Speaker 3>work to earn their paycheck. So there's always like different

0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:50.440
<v Speaker 3>things that they can do with people, but really they're

0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:53.119
<v Speaker 3>trying to figure out how to get this group back together.

0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:56.720
<v Speaker 3>And they definitely are auditioning new people because I went

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<v Speaker 3>to an event at SO the other week and one

0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:03.120
<v Speaker 3>of the bartenders was telling my friend about like, yeah,

0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:05.119
<v Speaker 3>you know, we've done some auditions for this. I'm like

0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:07.200
<v Speaker 3>dying to get on the show, like I've been watching

0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:09.120
<v Speaker 3>it for years, Like you have all these like thirsty

0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:11.440
<v Speaker 3>people that have come and got jobs at least Evanna

0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:14.280
<v Speaker 3>Pump's restaurants now, and they're hoping to be cast. But

0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:17.119
<v Speaker 3>it's like, we don't know yet if it's going to

0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:19.760
<v Speaker 3>be a situation where they keep some of the OG's

0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:21.600
<v Speaker 3>and then just bring in some new people, like you know,

0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:24.200
<v Speaker 3>mix it together. Are they going to do a complete reboot?

0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:26.560
<v Speaker 3>Like they are looking at every single option and just

0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:29.280
<v Speaker 3>like what makes the most sense, because you know, Vana

0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:31.919
<v Speaker 3>Parmon Rules is a great show, and I think that

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<v Speaker 3>it has a certain level of quality to maintain, Like

0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:39.040
<v Speaker 3>I don't think this is just a show that you

0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:40.880
<v Speaker 3>can just like throw down the toilet. So I think

0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:42.919
<v Speaker 3>they're really really trying to get this right because you know,

0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:45.720
<v Speaker 3>you see with some other reboots, some reboots work, like

0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:48.800
<v Speaker 3>with Miami when they kind of did that where they're like, Okay,

0:20:48.840 --> 0:20:50.679
<v Speaker 3>let's keep some of the ogs and then bring in

0:20:50.680 --> 0:20:54.679
<v Speaker 3>some new people that worked. They've obviously done that with

0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:57.800
<v Speaker 3>Atlanta coming up, which I don't know, I feel like

0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:00.400
<v Speaker 3>some of the stuff I'm hearing about the Atlanta reboots great.

0:21:01.640 --> 0:21:03.119
<v Speaker 3>And then they did it with Ronnie where they did

0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:06.080
<v Speaker 3>a complete recast, which is the worst show in the

0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:08.960
<v Speaker 3>history of Bravo to ever air. So they're trying to

0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:14.160
<v Speaker 3>get it right. Girl, you know it's true.

0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:20.360
<v Speaker 1>Wait, girl, you know it's true.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, look, look, look, let's have a real conversation talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it.

0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:28.159
<v Speaker 1>Okay, and we're going to get back to bad. I

0:21:28.160 --> 0:21:29.520
<v Speaker 1>want to talk about one more thing, and they're going

0:21:29.560 --> 0:21:31.760
<v Speaker 1>to move on. Okay.

0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:36.720
<v Speaker 2>Are you saying to me you consider the Real Housewives

0:21:36.720 --> 0:21:39.639
<v Speaker 2>of New York City reboot that is currently in a

0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:40.560
<v Speaker 2>second season.

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<v Speaker 1>You said it's the worst showing Bravo ever.

0:21:44.119 --> 0:21:47.680
<v Speaker 3>In history, Like it is so bad, and I think

0:21:47.720 --> 0:21:51.919
<v Speaker 3>that probably Jenna Lyons may be the worst housewife of

0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:54.080
<v Speaker 3>all time. And the fact they keep trying to guess

0:21:54.119 --> 0:21:56.080
<v Speaker 3>her up, like I could not believe whoever had the

0:21:56.119 --> 0:22:00.720
<v Speaker 3>audacity to give her the tagline of not everyone can

0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:03.200
<v Speaker 3>be Jenna lines, but they can try to be or whatever.

0:22:03.240 --> 0:22:05.560
<v Speaker 3>It's like, girl, no one wants to be you, Like

0:22:06.200 --> 0:22:08.159
<v Speaker 3>no one knows who you are, Like they tried to

0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:11.840
<v Speaker 3>act like they cast like Donna Tella VERSACEI or something

0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:15.520
<v Speaker 3>on the show. It's like, girl, nobody outside of like

0:22:15.720 --> 0:22:18.760
<v Speaker 3>New York Fashion Circles that was reading the cut ten

0:22:18.840 --> 0:22:21.840
<v Speaker 3>years ago knows who you are. And like no, Shade,

0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:24.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure you're a talented design of a Like please

0:22:24.800 --> 0:22:27.680
<v Speaker 3>stop trying to pretend that we just cast like Carl

0:22:27.760 --> 0:22:31.840
<v Speaker 3>Lagerfeld or like Mark Jacobs, like girl you designed for

0:22:32.040 --> 0:22:34.280
<v Speaker 3>what was it? Like The Gap or Jay Crew or

0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:37.480
<v Speaker 3>something like twenty years ago, and then you bring nothing

0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:39.760
<v Speaker 3>to the show, Like she's so scared of drama. I

0:22:39.800 --> 0:22:42.800
<v Speaker 3>feel like she sits in the corner like chattering her teeth,

0:22:43.000 --> 0:22:47.200
<v Speaker 3>terrified to even say anything. And it's just a horrible

0:22:47.280 --> 0:22:50.840
<v Speaker 3>show like it is. I can't think of like one

0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:53.520
<v Speaker 3>to quote Eileen. I can't think of one nice thing

0:22:53.520 --> 0:22:56.879
<v Speaker 3>to fucking say about it, like it's just so bad,

0:22:57.000 --> 0:22:59.720
<v Speaker 3>And can we talk about the last episode? Actually, I

0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:01.840
<v Speaker 3>need an to this because you are I need to

0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:04.800
<v Speaker 3>get your thoughts. Did you watch the do you watch

0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:05.680
<v Speaker 3>the last episode?

0:23:05.800 --> 0:23:08.320
<v Speaker 2>Okay, now, okay, I'm gonna be very honest with you,

0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:10.600
<v Speaker 2>because I'm honest with my rain drops Johns, I'm gonna

0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:14.320
<v Speaker 2>be honest with you. I watched all of the episodes,

0:23:14.359 --> 0:23:17.520
<v Speaker 2>plus the two par reunion of the reboot season one,

0:23:17.720 --> 0:23:20.600
<v Speaker 2>like well, the first season of the reboot.

0:23:21.000 --> 0:23:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I watch every episode. I too, and.

0:23:24.440 --> 0:23:26.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna answer questions, but I gotta get some context.

0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:31.280
<v Speaker 2>I watch every episode the two ParvE reunion. I was

0:23:31.359 --> 0:23:34.200
<v Speaker 2>intrigued by them, and I liked them.

0:23:34.320 --> 0:23:35.720
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't in love with the show. I thought it

0:23:35.720 --> 0:23:36.199
<v Speaker 1>was amazing.

0:23:36.240 --> 0:23:41.199
<v Speaker 2>I was like, Okay, great effort, I'll watch it. And

0:23:41.280 --> 0:23:46.480
<v Speaker 2>I watched it in its entirety. I never understood the

0:23:46.520 --> 0:23:51.120
<v Speaker 2>high with Jenna Alliance, and this is the thing for me. Okay,

0:23:52.880 --> 0:23:58.520
<v Speaker 2>it's not Jennaaliant's fault that they are ushering her to

0:23:58.600 --> 0:24:03.280
<v Speaker 2>be seen as like this amazing cast that we, you know,

0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:04.160
<v Speaker 2>got on the show.

0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:06.679
<v Speaker 1>I really think listen, in my opinion, I think.

0:24:06.560 --> 0:24:09.280
<v Speaker 2>Jenna Lince is sort of like, I'm not doing this,

0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:12.560
<v Speaker 2>Like I think jennaal Lliance has a enough common sense

0:24:12.600 --> 0:24:15.439
<v Speaker 2>to know I'm a big deal in the fashion world,

0:24:15.760 --> 0:24:17.480
<v Speaker 2>and the people in the fashion world loved me and

0:24:17.520 --> 0:24:22.760
<v Speaker 2>adore me. This is reality television, and the Housewives audience

0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:26.000
<v Speaker 2>they want to look at tamer Judge, Kyle Richards, you know,

0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:29.159
<v Speaker 2>like you know, the leanne Lockins of them, like you

0:24:29.240 --> 0:24:31.800
<v Speaker 2>want to see people here, like really push the envelope.

0:24:32.240 --> 0:24:36.399
<v Speaker 1>And I even think she knows in this space, I'm.

0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:39.280
<v Speaker 2>Not a big deal to this audience and I and

0:24:39.680 --> 0:24:43.959
<v Speaker 2>I don't see the hype in her. So season the

0:24:44.000 --> 0:24:48.280
<v Speaker 2>second season of the reboot is up, and I said, okay,

0:24:49.000 --> 0:24:50.080
<v Speaker 2>let me watch the premiere.

0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:52.400
<v Speaker 1>I saw the trailer and I was like, I'll watch

0:24:52.440 --> 0:24:53.280
<v Speaker 1>the premiere, right.

0:24:54.480 --> 0:24:58.119
<v Speaker 2>So I'm watching the premiere of the second season of

0:24:58.119 --> 0:25:02.560
<v Speaker 2>the reboot of New York City, and job, after maybe

0:25:02.800 --> 0:25:06.040
<v Speaker 2>twenty minutes, I stopped watching it, and and I'm gonna

0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:06.640
<v Speaker 2>be honest with.

0:25:06.600 --> 0:25:10.000
<v Speaker 1>You, I said to myself, I don't care.

0:25:10.440 --> 0:25:13.720
<v Speaker 2>I and again, I watch all of last season, and

0:25:13.760 --> 0:25:16.879
<v Speaker 2>I did care what I saw, And I want to

0:25:16.920 --> 0:25:19.560
<v Speaker 2>get your opinion on this because you're watching it. What

0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:25.200
<v Speaker 2>I saw in the first twenty minutes were all they're

0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:29.840
<v Speaker 2>conscious of the cameras now because the New York New

0:25:29.920 --> 0:25:35.360
<v Speaker 2>Yorkers are savvy people, right, the New Yorkers are known

0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:37.720
<v Speaker 2>to be savvy and very much awhere was going on.

0:25:38.400 --> 0:25:41.400
<v Speaker 2>And I felt like their first season was great because

0:25:42.840 --> 0:25:44.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, they were being themselves and they didn't.

0:25:44.760 --> 0:25:47.720
<v Speaker 3>Know like, Okay, no great, Well.

0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:49.920
<v Speaker 1>I said, not great, but watchable?

0:25:50.400 --> 0:25:53.280
<v Speaker 3>Well, so kind I watch all of it.

0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:57.040
<v Speaker 2>So the second second the second season of the ReFood,

0:25:57.640 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 2>and I didn't.

0:25:58.000 --> 0:25:58.960
<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I just didn't care.

0:25:59.160 --> 0:26:03.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, there's no major storyline. You all are talking

0:26:03.320 --> 0:26:05.639
<v Speaker 2>about photoshooting and see.

0:26:05.800 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 1>And said, I have something's going on. I don't give

0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:09.120
<v Speaker 1>a shit.

0:26:09.480 --> 0:26:14.560
<v Speaker 2>So I to answer your question, I haven't seen any

0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:18.280
<v Speaker 2>episodes this season now on Twitter.

0:26:19.119 --> 0:26:21.439
<v Speaker 1>I've heard some things, but ask your question.

0:26:22.680 --> 0:26:24.760
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well I was going to say you have a

0:26:24.960 --> 0:26:28.760
<v Speaker 3>correct assessment because they I mean, I think there were

0:26:28.840 --> 0:26:32.280
<v Speaker 3>camera aware season one, like they were very aware. This season.

0:26:32.560 --> 0:26:36.119
<v Speaker 3>It is to another level where the real show is

0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:39.600
<v Speaker 3>completely happening off camera. This is a show about nothing.

0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:42.200
<v Speaker 3>They said Seinfeld was a show about nothing. The Rony

0:26:42.240 --> 0:26:45.800
<v Speaker 3>reboot is a show about nothing. And what they just

0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 3>did on the latest episode and I could not believe

0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 3>that they aired this, And as a producer, I want

0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:54.240
<v Speaker 3>to get your take is I mean, it was the

0:26:54.240 --> 0:26:57.280
<v Speaker 3>worst episode, not again. Nothing was happening, and then Uber

0:26:57.400 --> 0:26:59.680
<v Speaker 3>was like angry about something kind of didn't make sense

0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:02.680
<v Speaker 3>and it was ridiculous. And then they showed this clip

0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:06.639
<v Speaker 3>at the end where Brin and then Rebecca Minkoff, the

0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:09.840
<v Speaker 3>scientologist who doesn't want to talk about scientology, which is

0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:12.880
<v Speaker 3>the most interesting thing about her, and they're sitting there

0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:16.240
<v Speaker 3>and Brinn says something like, girl, I can't believe you

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:19.359
<v Speaker 3>brought like, you know, three whole suitcases on the trip

0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:21.840
<v Speaker 3>and you haven't even changed your outfit yet, and Rebecca

0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:24.000
<v Speaker 3>was just like, yeah, you know, I'm in fashion, like

0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:26.640
<v Speaker 3>I travel with a lot of stuff. And then Brinn

0:27:26.840 --> 0:27:28.840
<v Speaker 3>was like, girl, like, if I say something like that

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:30.439
<v Speaker 3>to you, you need to like throw it back to

0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:32.359
<v Speaker 3>me and be like, well, I work in fashion and

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 3>you sell merchant Bravo can't. And Rebecca's like, oh, I

0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 3>don't know, I'm not really a mean girl like that.

0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:40.520
<v Speaker 3>And Brinn's like, well, you're not gonna last long in

0:27:40.560 --> 0:27:42.600
<v Speaker 3>this group if you don't do that, Like, come on, girl.

0:27:42.680 --> 0:27:45.119
<v Speaker 4>So they showed her coaching that air her to have

0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:50.480
<v Speaker 4>they aired it, and I was shocked because I'm like, wait,

0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:53.199
<v Speaker 4>So I'm trying to figure out.

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:54.919
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, did they air this because they just have

0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:57.720
<v Speaker 3>absolutely nothing going on on this show that that's the

0:27:57.800 --> 0:28:00.400
<v Speaker 3>only interesting thing they can show or are they almost

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:01.920
<v Speaker 3>just like you know what, like I don't even know

0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:03.720
<v Speaker 3>if we're going to fucking bring this show back off

0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:07.919
<v Speaker 3>to this year. Nothing's everything's happening off camera. Let's just

0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:12.280
<v Speaker 3>let's just throw them under the bus and do it. Like,

0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:14.280
<v Speaker 3>what do you why would they air that as a

0:28:14.320 --> 0:28:17.879
<v Speaker 3>producer showing people concocting fights on camera.

0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:21.399
<v Speaker 1>Oh, honey, Houston, Well, in this case, New York. We

0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:24.280
<v Speaker 1>have a problem. Ah my.

0:28:25.840 --> 0:28:29.159
<v Speaker 2>Nine times out of ten is what you said in

0:28:29.200 --> 0:28:33.639
<v Speaker 2>the former nothing's happening, and this is what drama they

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 2>can show you. Obviously, there's tons of breaking the fourth

0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:42.840
<v Speaker 2>wall moments that happens on these shows that you do

0:28:42.960 --> 0:28:47.680
<v Speaker 2>air because a it's fucking good and interesting and read

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:49.960
<v Speaker 2>the audience love A forth the wall being broken when

0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:53.200
<v Speaker 2>it's something interesting that's about to happen, or when you.

0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:57.160
<v Speaker 5>Unveil like no, girl, you told me this to get

0:28:57.200 --> 0:29:02.400
<v Speaker 5>her like the camera shit and and friendship debacle over

0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:06.040
<v Speaker 5>the receipts of the text messages of the fourth wall

0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:06.720
<v Speaker 5>being broken.

0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Investigate this person. We could talk about it on camera

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:12.200
<v Speaker 1>like that's interesting and and and and you.

0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:15.160
<v Speaker 2>See that in result of it, by this big fight,

0:29:15.520 --> 0:29:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Shannon Lee takes up my thought or whatever to have

0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:22.680
<v Speaker 2>that love conversation about clothes.

0:29:25.240 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, but not only to it's it's a different

0:29:28.200 --> 0:29:30.520
<v Speaker 3>kind of fall fall break because it's not like, well

0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:32.520
<v Speaker 3>you said this soft camera to set me up. It's

0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:35.080
<v Speaker 3>literally like, girl, we need to have a fake fight,

0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:37.800
<v Speaker 3>so something happens on this show, like to break it

0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:40.680
<v Speaker 3>to that level as like never been done before. I

0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:43.840
<v Speaker 3>was like you're almost like tanking the entire network, like

0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:46.400
<v Speaker 3>this is beyond showing how the sausage is made, like

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:49.760
<v Speaker 3>this is crazy, like you cannot hit this shocked down the.

0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Air and I'm curious to see you. So that was

0:29:53.920 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 1>that a cliffhanger that ended the episode.

0:29:57.680 --> 0:30:00.000
<v Speaker 3>No, So it was interesting. So they kind of slid

0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 3>in there and it was kind of subtle, and they

0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:05.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't think they had the cameras on them when

0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:08.160
<v Speaker 3>they did it, so I think that they thought that

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:11.040
<v Speaker 3>they were that they could have that without it being

0:30:11.240 --> 0:30:12.960
<v Speaker 3>but you know, obviously they're on the hot mic. But

0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:17.160
<v Speaker 3>then another they get into another fight that's about an

0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:19.200
<v Speaker 3>off camera thing. So they all go to bed and

0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:22.800
<v Speaker 3>then they're recounting in their confessionals because of course nobody

0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:26.240
<v Speaker 3>does anything on camera on this fucking snooze festiv a show.

0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:30.120
<v Speaker 3>And what had happened is like Uber's been like charging

0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 3>through the house like I mean, she's on, she's just

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:36.680
<v Speaker 3>like she's loopy. It's like hard to figure her out.

0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:40.840
<v Speaker 3>And then you know Brin who is you know, she's biracial,

0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:44.480
<v Speaker 3>which she revealed last season. They're talking off camera and

0:30:44.520 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 3>Brinn was like, girl, like you need to like chill,

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:49.320
<v Speaker 3>because you're going to come off like the angry black woman.

0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 3>You look crazy, and you're gonna look like the angry

0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:56.200
<v Speaker 3>black woman on this show this you know German banker

0:30:56.280 --> 0:30:58.280
<v Speaker 3>Oliver that your dating is going to leave you when

0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:01.120
<v Speaker 3>they see this played back. You look crazy girl?

0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:01.320
<v Speaker 5>What?

0:31:01.680 --> 0:31:04.880
<v Speaker 3>And then Uber apparently, but this all happens off camera

0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:08.720
<v Speaker 3>and they're telling you what happened in the confessionals because

0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:11.480
<v Speaker 3>obviously the producers must have sins like you know what

0:31:11.640 --> 0:31:13.400
<v Speaker 3>is going on now, like Uber, like why are you

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:15.280
<v Speaker 3>out at Brin or something? And they've had to like

0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:17.200
<v Speaker 3>drag it out of them to like say this in

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 3>their confessionals. So then they told the story about how

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:21.959
<v Speaker 3>they had to fight about that, and then that's what

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:23.640
<v Speaker 3>the cliffhanger kind of is.

0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:27.320
<v Speaker 1>Ooh so Brin, Brin, You're okay.

0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:30.760
<v Speaker 2>So if that happened in the same episode and Brent

0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:33.880
<v Speaker 2>did two things to show that she has these off

0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:38.920
<v Speaker 2>camera conversations. Brian, you're the villain of season and you're

0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:42.480
<v Speaker 2>being exposed. This is this season may be the exposed

0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:46.240
<v Speaker 2>exposure of brn it seems like, and what's funny.

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Is out of the whole cast, I like Brent a

0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:49.680
<v Speaker 1>lot last.

0:31:49.520 --> 0:31:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Season because she was like kind of refreshing to me, like, Okay,

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:57.240
<v Speaker 2>she's wacky, she's funny, she's still like whatever. I think

0:31:57.240 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 2>you're right. I think it goes to show you that

0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:01.160
<v Speaker 2>nothing's happened. Nothing's happening.

0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:05.240
<v Speaker 1>They had to do this so interesting is.

0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:10.840
<v Speaker 2>Cy was on Jeff Lewis show before the season premiere,

0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:14.720
<v Speaker 2>You're shaking your head right, and she was called a

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 2>hot mic when somebody asked her like, how's this season

0:32:18.480 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 2>and she said that.

0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Quote kind of boring And I remember.

0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:27.880
<v Speaker 2>Watching that like cast member saying it in that way, like.

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:31.160
<v Speaker 3>And she even said in that they were like, how's

0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:35.440
<v Speaker 3>the new girl, Rebecca, and she was like, Oh, she's

0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:37.440
<v Speaker 3>kind of boring, and like we're trying to you know,

0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 3>people are trying to activate her, but she's not biting,

0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:42.400
<v Speaker 3>Like I'm trying to get it to go, and she's

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:46.200
<v Speaker 3>not doing it. And then on top of that, Rebecca

0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:49.000
<v Speaker 3>Minkoff in one of her press interviews for the show,

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:52.760
<v Speaker 3>she said, oh, I suggested to Jenna Lyons that we

0:32:52.840 --> 0:32:55.280
<v Speaker 3>have a like that we stage a fight about who's

0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 3>the most fashionable. And then Jenna Lyons was like, girl,

0:32:57.920 --> 0:32:58.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm not doing nothing.

0:32:58.960 --> 0:32:59.400
<v Speaker 1>You buy.

0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 3>So it's just a whole lot of like, it's a

0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:05.560
<v Speaker 3>show about people that are trying to create a fake show,

0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:07.240
<v Speaker 3>is what this show is about.

0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Now that's not good, child.

0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:25.120
<v Speaker 2>We are just getting started. This is reality with the

0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:29.040
<v Speaker 2>King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show.

0:33:31.400 --> 0:33:34.040
<v Speaker 1>And I'm telling you, Jock, well, I'm telling you me.

0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:38.240
<v Speaker 2>Watching the first twenty minutes of this current season, the

0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:41.560
<v Speaker 2>premiere event, I'm just like, I'm not into it.

0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:43.720
<v Speaker 1>And I thought like, well, maybe you're tired and it

0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 1>just having a bad day. But I didn't.

0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:49.480
<v Speaker 2>I didn't feel the urge to watch it, Like I'm

0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 2>watching OC every week, like standing appointment, like I'm at drybar,

0:33:54.600 --> 0:33:56.440
<v Speaker 2>like get my hair done, like I need it.

0:33:56.640 --> 0:33:59.880
<v Speaker 1>I need it in my life. Right, I'm watching that religiously.

0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:02.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't care to watch New York City and apparently

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:04.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm not missing anything.

0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:06.840
<v Speaker 1>So do you think.

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:11.880
<v Speaker 2>That, based on what sounds to me like not a

0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 2>great season of New York City Housewives, do you think

0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:19.880
<v Speaker 2>that the network may be a little careful with the

0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 2>fate of what Vanda par Rules can be because it

0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:27.040
<v Speaker 2>goes to show you that you can't get rid of

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:30.040
<v Speaker 2>everybody and starting to show, and you may do your

0:34:30.080 --> 0:34:33.600
<v Speaker 2>best working with the Vanda per Rules cast to figure

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:36.320
<v Speaker 2>it out. Because one thing that the Daily Mail you

0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:41.000
<v Speaker 2>know you guys stated was that allegedly, before Scandalball happened,

0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:44.200
<v Speaker 2>it was going to be one final season of Vanda

0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:47.840
<v Speaker 2>par Rules, and that allegedly the Two Times were going

0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:49.680
<v Speaker 2>to have a spin off about Tom Tom.

0:34:50.160 --> 0:34:50.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:53.759
<v Speaker 3>Well, they've been trying to do different things, like if

0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:57.320
<v Speaker 3>people know their Bravo history, like The Valley was supposed

0:34:57.320 --> 0:34:59.360
<v Speaker 3>to happen years ago. What they were going to do

0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:02.640
<v Speaker 3>was they were going to spin off like star Cy

0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:07.080
<v Speaker 3>Jacks Kristen, like the vander pump Ogs, put them on

0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:09.799
<v Speaker 3>their own show, which ended up becoming The Valley, and

0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:12.319
<v Speaker 3>then Redo Vander Pump Wiles with the whole new bunch

0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:15.840
<v Speaker 3>of twenty somethings. And then when like COVID and BLM

0:35:15.920 --> 0:35:18.680
<v Speaker 3>and all the cancelations happened, then that got put on

0:35:18.840 --> 0:35:20.840
<v Speaker 3>Ice and then they were looking at doing like a

0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:23.759
<v Speaker 3>Tom Tom so the Tom Tom's spin off. So they've

0:35:23.760 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 3>been exploring a lot of different options. They're still looking

0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:29.440
<v Speaker 3>at potentially like even maybe doing two shows. It's like

0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:31.800
<v Speaker 3>everything is on the table and it's just it's like

0:35:31.840 --> 0:35:34.000
<v Speaker 3>putting a puzzle together of just like how do we

0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:40.880
<v Speaker 3>get the best product out there and make this work. Personally,

0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:44.840
<v Speaker 3>I kind of think that I think they should maybe

0:35:44.840 --> 0:35:47.840
<v Speaker 3>get rid of Ariana, which I know she's the biggest star,

0:35:48.800 --> 0:35:51.360
<v Speaker 3>but I think they could do it in a way

0:35:52.200 --> 0:35:55.680
<v Speaker 3>where Arianna still gets to look good. Arianna can just say, look,

0:35:55.719 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm so busy at hosting Love Island and doing all

0:35:58.000 --> 0:35:59.640
<v Speaker 3>these other things. I'm just going to take a break

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:02.640
<v Speaker 3>from them a pump for now, and then, you know,

0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:06.000
<v Speaker 3>if Katie wants to not come, I mean I would

0:36:06.080 --> 0:36:08.560
<v Speaker 3>hire even though Katie's very popular now at the moment,

0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:10.400
<v Speaker 3>I think Katie had a really great season, so I

0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:14.319
<v Speaker 3>do think she's like needed. But Katie also doesn't seem

0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:17.320
<v Speaker 3>to want to film with certain people. So I would

0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:20.439
<v Speaker 3>maybe hire Katie back as like a friend, and they'd

0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:21.960
<v Speaker 3>be like, girl, if you can like mix with the

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:24.200
<v Speaker 3>group and everything, and it's like, we'll just upgrade you

0:36:24.239 --> 0:36:26.399
<v Speaker 3>back to like full time, like within a few weeks

0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:28.360
<v Speaker 3>of filming or something, but let's just see how it goes.

0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:31.719
<v Speaker 3>But I would take Ariana out because I feel like

0:36:32.160 --> 0:36:35.120
<v Speaker 3>everybody else can put their shit aside and film together

0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:37.000
<v Speaker 3>and then i'd put a few new people in there

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:39.960
<v Speaker 3>and I would just do it like that and I

0:36:40.000 --> 0:36:43.400
<v Speaker 3>would see how it goes, and if it's not working,

0:36:43.480 --> 0:36:46.239
<v Speaker 3>then I don't know, make it a farewell season, and

0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:49.759
<v Speaker 3>I don't know produce it on the fly a bit,

0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:52.040
<v Speaker 3>but we do need another season. And I think last

0:36:52.040 --> 0:36:54.240
<v Speaker 3>season was actually good. I know a lot of people

0:36:54.280 --> 0:36:56.759
<v Speaker 3>hated it, and you were mentioning before as well that

0:36:56.880 --> 0:36:58.480
<v Speaker 3>like people watched it and they were like, we're a

0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:00.840
<v Speaker 3>bit sick of Scandabal, which is true. But it's like

0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:06.279
<v Speaker 3>production had no choice other than to produce the show

0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:10.600
<v Speaker 3>like that because Scandival was the biggest reality TV scandal

0:37:10.640 --> 0:37:14.279
<v Speaker 3>in like ten years pretty much, and you couldn't just

0:37:14.360 --> 0:37:16.319
<v Speaker 3>do a season where you're not addressing it. It's the

0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:18.600
<v Speaker 3>biggest thing ever. So it's like they were damned if

0:37:18.600 --> 0:37:20.520
<v Speaker 3>they did, damned if they didn't. And I think they

0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:22.719
<v Speaker 3>did the best. I think they did the best job

0:37:22.760 --> 0:37:26.080
<v Speaker 3>they could. And I actually found the season very interesting

0:37:26.120 --> 0:37:30.359
<v Speaker 3>because I could I could understand where everybody was coming from.

0:37:30.400 --> 0:37:33.320
<v Speaker 3>It's like, I can see why Ariana is really upset

0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:35.799
<v Speaker 3>that people aren't all having her back. I see where

0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:37.880
<v Speaker 3>Tom's coming from. I see why Sheen is kind of

0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:40.680
<v Speaker 3>like jealous, Like I felt like it was very interesting,

0:37:40.680 --> 0:37:45.040
<v Speaker 3>and I think with viewers of reality television, especially with Bravo,

0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:48.239
<v Speaker 3>what the audience tends to do is it's so hardcore,

0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:50.560
<v Speaker 3>like we're just team this person and we hate that

0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:53.080
<v Speaker 3>other person. But for me, when I watch Vanda Probabol's

0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:55.719
<v Speaker 3>last year, I'm like, I can see everybody's perspective. I

0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:59.600
<v Speaker 3>don't find one person to be specifically bad. So I

0:37:59.600 --> 0:38:02.000
<v Speaker 3>think the s and it's a really great cost, Like

0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:04.480
<v Speaker 3>that is a good cost. So you just have to

0:38:04.480 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 3>figure out how to get them together, whether it's bringing

0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:09.600
<v Speaker 3>in some new paople or not, and keep going. So

0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:11.359
<v Speaker 3>I definitely would not get rid of the show yet.

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:12.680
<v Speaker 3>And the ratings are still good too.

0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:15.480
<v Speaker 1>That's yes, the ratings were still solid. It was definitely

0:38:15.520 --> 0:38:17.160
<v Speaker 1>still solid, and I agree with you.

0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:19.440
<v Speaker 2>I think, listen what I would do if it was

0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:24.400
<v Speaker 2>my show, I would make Ariana part time because you

0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:27.320
<v Speaker 2>want to see like the resolve of her and Tom.

0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Listen, we all want to see her and La La

0:38:29.480 --> 0:38:30.359
<v Speaker 1>go at it, right.

0:38:31.440 --> 0:38:36.520
<v Speaker 2>I do think Arianna has I've grown the show too,

0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:40.040
<v Speaker 2>and I think let her continue to host the number

0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:42.520
<v Speaker 2>one dating show Peacock. It's a great gig for her,

0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:45.719
<v Speaker 2>let her experience everything she wants to experience outside of

0:38:45.719 --> 0:38:46.080
<v Speaker 2>the show.

0:38:46.640 --> 0:38:49.319
<v Speaker 1>Because listen, I was.

0:38:49.280 --> 0:38:51.239
<v Speaker 2>Hard on her last season because I'm like, okay, girl,

0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:54.239
<v Speaker 2>like film with Tom, like film with him, Like it's

0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:55.520
<v Speaker 2>not the end of the world.

0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:58.560
<v Speaker 1>But she feels that uncomfortable.

0:38:58.760 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 2>Then it's like, Okay, we heard Ulama, clear, there's other

0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:05.520
<v Speaker 2>things you can do. She's hosting Erich Harpet event, so

0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:08.480
<v Speaker 2>she will still be in the Bravo family in VC Universal,

0:39:09.000 --> 0:39:11.279
<v Speaker 2>so she still has ways to make money. But I

0:39:11.360 --> 0:39:13.960
<v Speaker 2>definitely would face her out of this season. I think

0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:16.520
<v Speaker 2>the cast she doesn't want to be with them, and

0:39:16.520 --> 0:39:18.319
<v Speaker 2>if they don't want to hang out with her, I

0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:24.520
<v Speaker 2>think La La Tom, Tom, Sheena. You know, I think

0:39:24.520 --> 0:39:26.839
<v Speaker 2>the rest of the casts are able to sort of

0:39:26.920 --> 0:39:29.280
<v Speaker 2>like have a relationship.

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:32.800
<v Speaker 1>James Kennedy, who I just love.

0:39:33.360 --> 0:39:37.040
<v Speaker 2>I think he's such a great reality star because he

0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:37.919
<v Speaker 2>doesn't give a fuck.

0:39:38.280 --> 0:39:39.879
<v Speaker 1>And that was the beauty of Ben the Poor Rules.

0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:43.080
<v Speaker 2>It was a group of kids who just didn't give

0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:45.040
<v Speaker 2>a fuck, and they were so honest and so raw

0:39:45.080 --> 0:39:48.320
<v Speaker 2>and so real. I would love to see that cast return,

0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:52.239
<v Speaker 2>mixed in with some new blood that can really shake

0:39:52.360 --> 0:39:55.239
<v Speaker 2>this tree. So I agree with you with that. We

0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:57.400
<v Speaker 2>don't want to reboot, so don't do that to This

0:39:57.440 --> 0:40:00.040
<v Speaker 2>show is a great brand, is a huge show. The

0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:07.000
<v Speaker 2>ratings are great based on what's happening in New York City. Yikes.

0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:11.000
<v Speaker 2>But good news is the Real Housewise of Billy Hills

0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:15.719
<v Speaker 2>is returning, and I don't know about your job. That

0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:20.520
<v Speaker 2>trailer you get to see the old dereet and I'm

0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:24.880
<v Speaker 2>a happy, happy, happy camper. Okay.

0:40:24.960 --> 0:40:28.000
<v Speaker 3>I have to say that I didn't love the trailer,

0:40:28.120 --> 0:40:30.120
<v Speaker 3>but I think the reason I didn't love it was

0:40:30.160 --> 0:40:32.800
<v Speaker 3>because I've heard all the tea about the new season,

0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:34.480
<v Speaker 3>and I can tell you that the trailer does not

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:38.799
<v Speaker 3>even capture what we're about to see, and I know

0:40:38.880 --> 0:40:41.840
<v Speaker 3>that that is scratching the surface of Deree.

0:40:42.040 --> 0:40:45.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well that's that's good thing. Okay, So we have

0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:47.879
<v Speaker 1>a lot to look forward too. So no, don't fail

0:40:47.960 --> 0:40:48.719
<v Speaker 1>us what you've heard.

0:40:48.760 --> 0:40:53.560
<v Speaker 2>But are you confirming exclusively on reality with the King

0:40:54.160 --> 0:40:57.440
<v Speaker 2>that this upcoming season of the Real Housewives of Billy

0:40:57.520 --> 0:40:59.279
<v Speaker 2>Hills is going to be explosive?

0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:03.799
<v Speaker 3>Deree came to play Deriet has a very unexpected friendship

0:41:03.840 --> 0:41:09.200
<v Speaker 3>with someone on the show it is, girl, I'll tell

0:41:09.200 --> 0:41:13.920
<v Speaker 3>you some tea off my ce gag you'll die. It's

0:41:13.960 --> 0:41:14.560
<v Speaker 3>gonna be good.

0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:18.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm hard on Dure, so I listen. John.

0:41:18.400 --> 0:41:20.239
<v Speaker 2>I said this on Twitter maybe a year or too ago,

0:41:20.360 --> 0:41:24.520
<v Speaker 2>that Dried is the perfect example of somebody who was

0:41:24.640 --> 0:41:29.759
<v Speaker 2>fantastic their first season and second in fact, and then

0:41:29.960 --> 0:41:33.680
<v Speaker 2>social media got ahold of her and I said she

0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:38.600
<v Speaker 2>was never the same after being villainized on social media.

0:41:38.680 --> 0:41:41.800
<v Speaker 2>People hated her and I'm like, where is my deriy?

0:41:41.960 --> 0:41:45.720
<v Speaker 2>I loved her? So are we going to see old

0:41:45.800 --> 0:41:49.439
<v Speaker 2>dur return? Because my favorite moment of Derey is when

0:41:49.520 --> 0:41:54.480
<v Speaker 2>she told me, Sabrina, back up, if I could smell

0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:56.320
<v Speaker 2>your breath, you're too close.

0:41:56.800 --> 0:41:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Back up.

0:41:58.000 --> 0:42:01.319
<v Speaker 3>I hear that we're getting old to eat back like

0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:05.040
<v Speaker 3>it's the It's bigger than her first season. It's like

0:42:06.120 --> 0:42:08.439
<v Speaker 3>it's next level to eat. And I have to say

0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:10.879
<v Speaker 3>to defend Deitt, I agree that she had a few

0:42:10.960 --> 0:42:12.960
<v Speaker 3>years where I'm like, girl, she needs to get fired.

0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:15.560
<v Speaker 3>And I really hate her fashion. It's so contrived and

0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:17.960
<v Speaker 3>I really didn't like her leaning on her you know,

0:42:18.280 --> 0:42:23.200
<v Speaker 3>head to toe Gucci logo, Marlo Hampton outfits. But I

0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:25.840
<v Speaker 3>feel like Marlo Hampton pulls off the looks so much better.

0:42:26.280 --> 0:42:28.640
<v Speaker 3>Like I feel like the clothes really wear to Eat,

0:42:28.760 --> 0:42:30.280
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean? Like I feel like Marlow

0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:33.000
<v Speaker 3>like makes it work and it's like yes, girl, But

0:42:33.040 --> 0:42:34.799
<v Speaker 3>I just feel like Dereat I never got it. But

0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:39.800
<v Speaker 3>I really started to like to Eat last season because

0:42:39.880 --> 0:42:42.600
<v Speaker 3>I felt like she was one of the only ones

0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:45.279
<v Speaker 3>that wasn't scared of Garcel. And I don't know if

0:42:45.320 --> 0:42:48.080
<v Speaker 3>that's just because she is in such a bubble that

0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:50.440
<v Speaker 3>she almost didn't care, but I you know, you can

0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:52.320
<v Speaker 3>tell that a lot of these other girls are scared

0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:55.239
<v Speaker 3>to come against Garcel because you know, they all saw

0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:57.400
<v Speaker 3>what happened to Kyle that first season with them when

0:42:57.480 --> 0:42:59.799
<v Speaker 3>she brought up the charity that suddenly she was, you know,

0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:02.839
<v Speaker 3>in the KKK or something. So these girls don't want

0:43:02.840 --> 0:43:06.160
<v Speaker 3>to like mention Garseell because she will like bring that up,

0:43:06.200 --> 0:43:08.080
<v Speaker 3>and she did bring it up with Dared, but darit

0:43:08.200 --> 0:43:10.319
<v Speaker 3>still like sat there and took it and took the

0:43:10.440 --> 0:43:12.480
<v Speaker 3>like you're a Karen and everything. So I was kind

0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:15.040
<v Speaker 3>of like, oh, I already feel like Dari's starting to

0:43:15.040 --> 0:43:16.600
<v Speaker 3>be like, you know, fuck this, Like if this is

0:43:16.640 --> 0:43:18.200
<v Speaker 3>my opinion, I'm going to say it, and now I

0:43:18.239 --> 0:43:20.879
<v Speaker 3>know that this next season, she's just like she's going

0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:23.920
<v Speaker 3>after everyone. I think she gets into it with Garsel,

0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:28.279
<v Speaker 3>with Kyle obviously, and I know the husband's film a lot,

0:43:28.360 --> 0:43:30.600
<v Speaker 3>so we're going to see a lot of all these

0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:34.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, the personal relationships with everybody, Like it's all there.

0:43:35.280 --> 0:43:38.320
<v Speaker 2>If y'all to see my face right now, I'm smiling

0:43:38.320 --> 0:43:42.840
<v Speaker 2>from here to hear I listen. Is the reason why

0:43:43.080 --> 0:43:47.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm very particular about what I consume, because I don't

0:43:47.440 --> 0:43:50.759
<v Speaker 2>want to watch shit for the sake of watching it. Like,

0:43:50.840 --> 0:43:53.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm a busy guy, have a lot going on. So

0:43:53.160 --> 0:43:55.080
<v Speaker 2>when I take time to sell to my couch and

0:43:55.160 --> 0:43:58.600
<v Speaker 2>give you forty two minutes of my time, meg it

0:43:58.719 --> 0:44:01.840
<v Speaker 2>worth it? Oh see is doing for me this season?

0:44:02.360 --> 0:44:06.759
<v Speaker 2>Billy Hills is one of my favorite shows. It consistently delivers.

0:44:06.880 --> 0:44:08.480
<v Speaker 2>Last season wasn't that great.

0:44:08.360 --> 0:44:10.879
<v Speaker 1>But I watched every season because I'm not.

0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:15.080
<v Speaker 2>Season every episode because I really was just into like

0:44:15.280 --> 0:44:20.719
<v Speaker 2>Kyle and Mauricio's situation. I'm so looking forward to this

0:44:20.840 --> 0:44:25.799
<v Speaker 2>upcoming season that airs November nineteenth. It's it's it's such

0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:29.600
<v Speaker 2>a phenomenal show. But before I let you go, I

0:44:29.640 --> 0:44:34.560
<v Speaker 2>need to ask you the most pressing question. What's that?

0:44:35.840 --> 0:44:38.280
<v Speaker 1>Are you team Tamra or team jin.

0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:44.759
<v Speaker 3>I okay, I team both of them, because I think

0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:47.640
<v Speaker 3>I think that I'm team both of them. You know,

0:44:47.800 --> 0:44:51.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm definitely my Housewives. Ing has shifted a lot where

0:44:51.160 --> 0:44:53.840
<v Speaker 3>I can really see where everyone comes from. But I

0:44:53.880 --> 0:44:55.720
<v Speaker 3>just have to say, people need to lay off Tamera

0:44:55.880 --> 0:45:02.879
<v Speaker 3>because come on, allegedly Ryan is. You know, I think

0:45:02.920 --> 0:45:05.640
<v Speaker 3>Tama's right about a lot of stuff. The people don't

0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:09.799
<v Speaker 3>like the delivery, and I think the truth hurts. And

0:45:09.840 --> 0:45:11.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, I've heard a lot of things about Shannon

0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:13.080
<v Speaker 3>over the years, and you probably heard a lot of

0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:17.920
<v Speaker 3>things about Shannon too, from many different sources. And I

0:45:18.520 --> 0:45:22.120
<v Speaker 3>it is, you know, a twist of fate that somehow

0:45:22.160 --> 0:45:25.239
<v Speaker 3>Shannon became the most loved person on this show again.

0:45:25.320 --> 0:45:28.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean, she is just so lucky that Alexis came back.

0:45:28.200 --> 0:45:30.160
<v Speaker 3>By the way, I ran into Alexis at a party

0:45:30.200 --> 0:45:33.440
<v Speaker 3>a few weeks ago. She was lovely, I was getting

0:45:33.480 --> 0:45:35.440
<v Speaker 3>all the tea. I feel so bad for her, and

0:45:35.480 --> 0:45:38.359
<v Speaker 3>I know that they're trying to figure out what to

0:45:38.360 --> 0:45:41.719
<v Speaker 3>do with Alexis because I know they want to bring

0:45:41.760 --> 0:45:45.880
<v Speaker 3>her back. But they're also like, how can we bring

0:45:45.960 --> 0:45:48.359
<v Speaker 3>Shannon And they're trying to figure that out as well,

0:45:48.360 --> 0:45:50.280
<v Speaker 3>like they're trying to figure out with vander Prong rules.

0:45:50.280 --> 0:45:53.120
<v Speaker 3>But yes, I think I'm team Tamara.

0:45:54.239 --> 0:45:57.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay, now miss it. I love Tamara. She's a friend

0:45:57.200 --> 0:45:57.480
<v Speaker 1>of mine.

0:45:58.560 --> 0:46:02.080
<v Speaker 2>I spoke to her recently as well. And listen, Tamra's

0:46:02.120 --> 0:46:07.680
<v Speaker 2>doing well. And I will say this, I would want

0:46:08.040 --> 0:46:11.200
<v Speaker 2>the audience to always share their opinion, whether it's good

0:46:11.239 --> 0:46:14.880
<v Speaker 2>or bad. That's what makes this sort of like process

0:46:14.960 --> 0:46:19.080
<v Speaker 2>works for us right when were producing shows. But I

0:46:19.120 --> 0:46:23.840
<v Speaker 2>would say that, just know that somebody can appear to

0:46:23.920 --> 0:46:27.840
<v Speaker 2>be tough on camera, but you could be very fragile

0:46:27.880 --> 0:46:31.000
<v Speaker 2>behind the scenes when you are getting attacked.

0:46:31.840 --> 0:46:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Just listen, and I want my audience to understand this.

0:46:35.640 --> 0:46:39.439
<v Speaker 2>These women on these shows can handle being attacked by

0:46:39.480 --> 0:46:44.000
<v Speaker 2>their castmates because it's like five to six people that

0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:47.840
<v Speaker 2>you have to deal with, right, Multiply that by a thousand,

0:46:48.280 --> 0:46:50.719
<v Speaker 2>and you're dealing with that with strangers.

0:46:51.200 --> 0:46:52.279
<v Speaker 1>It is a lot.

0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:59.000
<v Speaker 2>And what I want to encourage the fandom is is

0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:01.080
<v Speaker 2>one thousand percent they don't care to have an opinion

0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:06.319
<v Speaker 2>stated like and mean it it's all good.

0:47:07.160 --> 0:47:10.560
<v Speaker 1>However, say it once and move on.

0:47:11.360 --> 0:47:16.319
<v Speaker 2>Is when you constantly labor it to where someone I

0:47:16.360 --> 0:47:18.960
<v Speaker 2>feel bad for alexis to you know as well.

0:47:19.680 --> 0:47:22.120
<v Speaker 1>She has cut off her comments.

0:47:21.680 --> 0:47:26.680
<v Speaker 2>For months because she can't handle it, and nor is

0:47:26.719 --> 0:47:29.399
<v Speaker 2>she supposed to handle. That's sort of this raw from

0:47:30.000 --> 0:47:34.160
<v Speaker 2>from the audience. It's it's it's what you sign up for, yes,

0:47:34.680 --> 0:47:37.200
<v Speaker 2>but no one signs up to be bullied. When a

0:47:37.280 --> 0:47:40.759
<v Speaker 2>child goes to school, he may be aware that things

0:47:40.760 --> 0:47:43.040
<v Speaker 2>may happen, but nobody signs up to be bullied and

0:47:43.080 --> 0:47:44.879
<v Speaker 2>have to take it and say, well, suck it up.

0:47:45.480 --> 0:47:47.360
<v Speaker 1>And I want people to look look.

0:47:47.160 --> 0:47:51.160
<v Speaker 2>At that when it comes to the reality stars, like, yes, okay, Tim,

0:47:51.239 --> 0:47:52.800
<v Speaker 2>I may not be the most love and that's fine,

0:47:52.880 --> 0:47:59.040
<v Speaker 2>but have some grace for a woman who is providing

0:47:59.160 --> 0:48:01.920
<v Speaker 2>us with some great time television. And we saw what

0:48:01.960 --> 0:48:04.640
<v Speaker 2>a season was like with our camera and I don't

0:48:04.640 --> 0:48:05.640
<v Speaker 2>ever want to see that again.

0:48:06.239 --> 0:48:10.239
<v Speaker 3>People need to remember always this is a television show. Yes,

0:48:10.280 --> 0:48:13.279
<v Speaker 3>it's well, sometimes it's real. Sometimes it's not. As we're

0:48:13.280 --> 0:48:15.680
<v Speaker 3>seeing on Roney, they're there trying to stage fight. So

0:48:16.440 --> 0:48:20.279
<v Speaker 3>there's a lot that goes into reality television. There's there's

0:48:20.480 --> 0:48:23.480
<v Speaker 3>editing there, there is so much, and yeah, I wish

0:48:23.520 --> 0:48:27.240
<v Speaker 3>people would kind of lay off with the hate towards

0:48:27.280 --> 0:48:29.399
<v Speaker 3>certain cast members, and then you do run these really

0:48:29.400 --> 0:48:31.440
<v Speaker 3>great people off the shows, and then the shows end

0:48:31.520 --> 0:48:34.800
<v Speaker 3>up flopping and being awful because we got rid of people.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's just like crazy, how quickly the audience can change.

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<v Speaker 3>Because even if you go back to Vanda promt Rules,

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<v Speaker 3>Larla was actually very popular for a while and then

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<v Speaker 3>from the last season it and she's suddenly the most

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely the most hated. And then Katie Maloney was kind

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<v Speaker 3>of the opposite. Everyone thought she was just this boring

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<v Speaker 3>nag that had like no charisma and was, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>always raining on Schwartz's parade, and now she's like a

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<v Speaker 3>fan favorite. And when they fired Tamera, everyone was like,

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<v Speaker 3>we need Tamera back, this is so bad. Then as

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<v Speaker 3>soon as they bring Tamera back, then they all hate

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<v Speaker 3>her again. So it's just like, let's just chill out

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<v Speaker 3>and yeah, it's fine, I have your opinion, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't need to be like dming these people and

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<v Speaker 3>like leaving hate comments on their pages and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 3>They're all they're trying to entertain you and just watch

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<v Speaker 3>it as a television show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and that also goes from me and Jock.

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<v Speaker 2>Do not leave hay comments on my reviews on Apple

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<v Speaker 2>or Spotify if you disagree with this, Okay, we appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>you all, all right, Jock, let.

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<v Speaker 1>The world know where they can find you, follow you,

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<v Speaker 1>support you.

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<v Speaker 2>You're an amazing journalist, an amazing producer, and an amazing

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<v Speaker 2>podcast host.

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<v Speaker 1>So let them know wherey can find you.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you. You can get everything. Just follow me on

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<v Speaker 3>Instagram at Unpopular JP. I post links to my Patreon episodes.

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<v Speaker 3>I just you know, post my takes on the Instagram stories.

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<v Speaker 3>I used to be a heavy tweeter, which is how

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<v Speaker 3>you and I I became friends, but I definitely pulled

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<v Speaker 3>back from that. I'm like, this is too much. Follow

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<v Speaker 3>me on Instagram and you can get everything there.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, all right, and rain Doc. I will

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<v Speaker 1>see you guys next week.

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