1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Hey rain Drops. Yes, so I finally got merch. That's right. 2 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 2: You can buy your allegedly and my Voice mugs, T shirts, 3 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: rain Drops, hoodies and T shirts all on Carlos Kingshop 4 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 2: dot com. 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: That's right. 6 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 2: Get your hoodies, your T shirts, and your mugs all 7 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: on Carlos Kingshop dot com. Welcome to Reality the King. 8 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 2: It's me Carlos kings the King of Reality TV and 9 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: one of the most sought after executive producers in reality 10 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 2: television with over ten years a production experience. From Reality 11 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: with the King, We'll sit down with my friends across 12 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit 13 00:00:50,920 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: unforgettable moments that we are still talking and tweeting about. 14 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: Hey rain Drops. 15 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: For today's episode, Reality to the King, we have a 16 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: lot to discuss. A lot has been going on in 17 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: all of the Bravo land and today I am joined 18 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 2: by a friend of mine who is also like an 19 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: amazing journalist. 20 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: He also is a producer. 21 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: And he is also like a personality. But today we 22 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 2: are diving into an amazing article with an exclusive te 23 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 2: that he wrote about the state of Vanda pump rules. 24 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: We will also get into some housewife stuff as well, 25 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: but please rain drops help me and welcoming on my guests. 26 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:48,559 Speaker 2: The One, Honey, the Only the Man. Jack Peter said, 27 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: thank you from the Daily Mail. 28 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 3: Honey, I feel like I've been trying to get on 29 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 3: Reality with the King since you've launched, so it's finally happened. 30 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 3: I had to move here from Australia fore to have 31 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 3: me on that. I'm here, so better let than never. 32 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: No, I love you so much. 33 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: It was funny, is I was on your podcast a 34 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 2: few years ago and you still have it unpopular? 35 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 3: Well you talk about the podcast, Yeah, I do it 36 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 3: on Patreon now, So I just I mean, I moved 37 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 3: to LA and I'm just so busy with work. I'm 38 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 3: trying to produce some shows and stuff behind the scenes. 39 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 3: It was just too much, so I do it on 40 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 3: Patreon now. But it was funny because I feel like 41 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 3: when I had you on my podcast, you were one 42 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 3: of my first guests. That episode did so well, and 43 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 3: that was before you had Reality with the King. It 44 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 3: was before you were doing a lot of podcasts. So 45 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 3: I feel like I got Colors King very early on. 46 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 3: I was like, I need to have anyone, and now 47 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 3: you're like so huge in this podcasting world. 48 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: Oh thank you. 49 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 2: Notice the people like you who envite me in the 50 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: podcast because we follow eachron on social media and you 51 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 2: were and it's funny because you just said, can you 52 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: go my podcast? 53 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: And I'm like, yes, I like you. We kind of. 54 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 2: Agree on the same things on Twitter. To think about you, 55 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: that's so interesting. You have the best, funniest takes. Even 56 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 2: if I disagree with you, I just like it when 57 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 2: you're funny and shady and listen, you're my type of 58 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 2: boy hoody. 59 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 3: Well, I'll just say I don't care what anyone thinks. 60 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 3: I will just say it, like so I will go there. 61 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 3: And I've actually, like I pulled back from tweeting about 62 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 3: housewives maybe like a year or two ago, just because 63 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 3: it was like, you know, the fandom is so intense, 64 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 3: and it's not that I care about getting hated on. 65 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 3: It was just like it just became exhausting. Like it 66 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 3: was just because you know, I would always have the 67 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 3: hot take, and I would just every day I would 68 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 3: wake up with you know, Garcells fans or like whoever, 69 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 3: or people you know get upset if I defend Erica 70 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 3: Jane or something. So I'm just like this is exhausting. 71 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 3: But you know, I like that you like to put 72 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 3: the unpopular opinions out there too. You always defend the villain, 73 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 3: like we're both Tamera fans, so yes. 74 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: Yes, no. 75 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: It's one of those things where it's like, I'm not 76 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: here to just join the popular vote. If we all 77 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: have the same opinion, that's great, you know, But one 78 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: thing I do, I never try to be on the 79 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: side of like what's correct, Like, oh well everyone feels 80 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: this way and join in. If I disagree, I'm gonna 81 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 2: say it. And it's okay to have a difference of opinions. 82 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 2: But let's get into the Vandam Pump rules of it all, 83 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 2: because it has been reported that the show is in 84 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 2: dire need of a possible reboot or is it a 85 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: cancelation or is it on pause indefinitely? 86 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: And I want to hear from you what is going on. 87 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: We love Vanda Pump rules. 88 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 2: You know, the show had a second win when the 89 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: scandal all drama of it all happened. Then last season 90 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 2: I think all of us felt like we're kind of 91 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 2: tired of little scandaval story that's dominating the storylines and 92 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: we want to see something different and fresh, and based 93 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 2: on the finale, it did appear that these co stars, 94 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 2: these cast mates were not in the best place, and 95 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: then at the reunion it was sort of like, oh, 96 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 2: they don't like each other, so what is going on 97 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 2: with band the Pump Rules? 98 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 3: Okay, so they are trying to figure out what to 99 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 3: do with this show because you know, I did an 100 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 3: article for Daily Mail and there was a few issues. 101 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 3: One of them was like, there's some salary stuff, but 102 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 3: really that's not the main thing. It's like, you can 103 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 3: always work out salaries. There's so many things you can 104 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 3: do when people go, well, I'm not going to film 105 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 3: unless they get this much money. But you know, people 106 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 3: usually buckle at the eleventh hour, So that's not really 107 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 3: the main thing. The main thing is just that this 108 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 3: is a show about a group of friends, and it 109 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 3: is so fractured at this point. Like it's not just 110 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 3: like the two people weren't film with each other. It's 111 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 3: like everybody has splintered off into their own little groups 112 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 3: and it's just kind of like, how do we organically 113 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 3: put these people back together. There's going to be resolution 114 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 3: where they can have fun together, where new storylines can 115 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 3: come out because everyone has kind of like dug their 116 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 3: heels in, Like there are so many people on this 117 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 3: show that are not talking to each other. You know, 118 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: Scandalval really raised everybody's profiles to the point that so 119 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 3: many of them are just like busy with their own ventures. 120 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 3: Like even Lala, Like she's on that Amazon freaking live 121 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 3: every day and she's probably making like good money on that, 122 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 3: and like you know, Ariana of course is like booked 123 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 3: and busy with ten different jobs, and Katie's got a 124 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 3: podcast now and the sandwich shop. I know that James Kennedy, 125 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 3: I think he actually may have made the most money 126 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 3: off Scandabal, even more than Ariana, because those DJing gigs 127 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 3: are so lucrative and he was just playing like he 128 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 3: was playing just like back to back shows. Like I 129 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 3: remember I even interviewed him for the season last season 130 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 3: promo and he was in a hotel room somewhere because literally, 131 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 3: like when they were not filming, he was off playing 132 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 3: DJ gigs. So really produces like how do we move forward? 133 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 3: Do we just bring everybody back and do a barewell 134 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 3: season and just see what happens? Do we get rid 135 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 3: of some people, do we bring back some old people? 136 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 3: Do we completely reboot it. Do we bringing new people 137 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 3: and they're trying to figure it out. So that's where 138 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 3: it's at. 139 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: So let's get into it. 140 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 2: Because the show started out, you know, season one, episode 141 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: one of this organic group of people who worked between 142 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 2: there was Sir Right and the Leablanca. 143 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: Is that is that correct? 144 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 2: Like those two restaurants, and they were friends, some are friendemies, 145 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: some were sleeping with each other. And Angie Cohen has 146 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: said publicly that when Lisa Banda pub and the producers 147 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 2: were talking about this show, he was even like, wait, 148 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: this is really happening, and when he saw the people 149 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 2: obviously great cast, young, And one thing that a lot 150 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 2: of people may not realize is Bravo took a big 151 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 2: risk with this show because the height of Bravo back 152 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: in that day was like these shows about middle aged 153 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: women who lived behind the gates and it was Housewives, 154 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: and then you have Million Dollar Listing, which was again 155 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: focused on at that time men, middle aged men with 156 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 2: these million dollar houses. Doc the Peruke was about a 157 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 2: group of cast members who lived in a shitty apartment. 158 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: You know. But what we all did when we were 159 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: first starting out. 160 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 2: They were waiters and hostess and waitresses and they didn't 161 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 2: have two pennies to rub some of them, and they 162 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 2: were trying to make it big in Hollywood, right, So 163 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 2: I want people to know that Bravo took a big 164 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: risk with this show. It paved off, it instantly became 165 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 2: and what are we like ten years later into this show, 166 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: and like you said earlier, La La is super rich, 167 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 2: the cats are millionaires. Do you feel like the show 168 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: has lost its plot with the fact that people enjoy 169 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 2: these twenty somethings who were trying to make it in Hollywood, 170 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 2: and now that they made it in Hollywood, the show 171 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 2: isn't what people bought into anymore. 172 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 3: Well, look, every show has to evolve to stay on 173 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 3: air for that long, especially a reality show, you know, 174 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 3: because you've got to follow people's reality. I think there 175 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 3: was a problem for a while where they really kept 176 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 3: trying to hang on to them working at the bar, 177 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 3: which they did for a long time. I mean, even 178 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 3: by like season three, vander Pump Rules was a blockbuster success, 179 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 3: So it wasn't even realistic at that point for them 180 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 3: to be working in these restaurants and being you know, 181 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 3: waiters and waitresses. So at this point it's ridiculous, But 182 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 3: I do feel like they had moved away from that 183 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 3: a lot, and then they started leaning into things where 184 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 3: like the Toms were opening their own bar, and then 185 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 3: Arianna and Katie were opening their sandwich shop. Also shout 186 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 3: out to Something about Her. I live near West Hollywood. 187 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 3: I go to Something about Her all the time. I 188 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 3: love her. The sandwiches are really good and they're affordable too, 189 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:20,719 Speaker 3: like you get like a big serving. So for the 190 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 3: Something about Her haters, honestly like based some good sandwiches. 191 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 3: But anyway, I think they were evolving the show. I 192 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 3: think it's fine. It was like as long as these 193 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 3: were people that do hang out together, it made sense. 194 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 3: And like this group does know each other because you know, 195 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 3: I'm in Hollywood now and I'm going out and I 196 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 3: you know, I'm in the media, so I get invited 197 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 3: to these things and I'll go to an event and 198 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 3: it's like I'll see the people from the Valley and 199 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 3: then Sheen is there and you know, they're interacting and stuff. 200 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 3: So this is very much a real group. But it's 201 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 3: just at this point it's like not so much. I mean, 202 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 3: it's so fractured. 203 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that seems to be the situation. 204 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 2: Do you think the cast is jealous of the fame 205 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 2: and notoriety that Arianna has received since the scandal mall scandal. 206 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 3: I think some of them are to varying degrees. 207 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: Who are some of them? 208 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 3: You think, Joh I think Lala is jealous, But I 209 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 3: will say that I think it's completely justifiable that she's 210 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 3: jealous because it's like Lala and the rest of the 211 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 3: cast like busted their fucking asses for this show for 212 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 3: like a decade, putting it all out there, the craziest drama, 213 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 3: and like it's all come out now that you know 214 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 3: Arianna and Tom Sandoval when they were together, like they 215 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 3: were having problems for a really long time, and they 216 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 3: were putting on like a facade for the cameras, and 217 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 3: Arianna like really didn't get involved in that much drama, 218 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 3: like she was doing seasons. I remember where it's like 219 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 3: her storyline was, I have anxiety and she would like 220 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 3: go over to like Lisa vander Pump's house have a 221 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 3: cup of tea, Like she was not doing anything interesting, 222 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 3: and it was literally at the point where it was like, girl, 223 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 3: if you were not part of this, like Tom sanderb 224 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 3: Old package, like you would not be on the show anymore. 225 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,599 Speaker 3: And that's like no shade to Ariana, Like, you know, 226 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 3: I met her out once and she seemed lovely, and 227 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 3: you know, I'm happy for her success and stuff. I'm 228 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 3: not like an Ariana hater. But it's just like you 229 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 3: did not pull your weight on this show where you 230 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 3: have everybody else that is like cheating and getting into 231 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 3: these crazy scandals and fighting with each other and throwing 232 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 3: drinks on each other, like you did not do any 233 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 3: of that, and it's like she wasn't even you know, 234 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 3: sometimes some shows will have like the boring cast member 235 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 3: or the nicest cast member, but they serve like a 236 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 3: very important purpose, Like maybe they're the one that just 237 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 3: like cuts through all the bs, like Eileen was so 238 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 3: great on you know, Beverly Hills for that. They can 239 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 3: be really insightful. 240 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: I love Eileen. I missed her and I want her 241 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: to come back. Anybody that says send them back in the. 242 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 2: Mail, or you know the way she used to check 243 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 2: Brandy when Brandy was like Kyle, I'm sorry, ravedropts, I'm sorry, 244 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 2: like bird, but I gotta talk about this really bad. 245 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: Eileen is such an icon, a legend when Eileen had 246 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 1: a poker party and Kyle. 247 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 2: And Brandy had that physical contact where like Brandy like kind. 248 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: Of push Kyle and conflict whatever. And then Brandy is 249 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 1: reciting a story. I think to Kim, somebody maybe Lisa 250 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: Rena and I Lead listens to the story and. 251 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 2: Said, girl get a grip like and walked away, like 252 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 2: Aileen is so underrated. She is a fucking icon, a legend. 253 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 2: She is so funny and I'm sorry to interrupt your story. 254 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 3: I just have to say that, no, no, I love that. 255 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 3: I mean, any chance I can get to slip in, 256 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 3: and Eileen Davidson mentioned I will. I actually think she's 257 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 3: one of the top five Beverly Hills housewives ever. She 258 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 3: was incredible, and she was kind of like the first 259 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 3: one that was not afraid of Lisa Vanda Pump because 260 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 3: some of the other girls went against Lisavanda Pump and 261 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 3: then they would buckle, but like Eileen didn't give a fuck, 262 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 3: like she went there. She people forget that, like if 263 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 3: you go back and watch that season, Lisa Rinner is 264 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 3: kind of trying to like straddle the fence because she 265 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 3: hadn't fully turned on vander Pump yet, and Eileen was 266 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 3: kind of the one that's like, no, what vantam pub 267 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 3: is doing is fucked up. Girl, Like snap out of it. 268 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 3: And she kind of like got Lisa Rinner to become 269 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 3: like who she became. So anyway, shout out Eileen, But 270 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 3: I'm just saying that Ariana was no Eileen. She was 271 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 3: no Cynthia Bailey, she was no nothing. And I get 272 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 3: why people would be jealous because it's like, girl, you 273 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 3: did the least on this show and then became not 274 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 3: only the biggest star on the show, like one of 275 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 3: the biggest stars in reality TV period. You are getting 276 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 3: booked in movies, you were on Dancing with the Stars, 277 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 3: you were hosting Love Island, you were making millions from 278 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 3: the best social media endorsements. So the jealousy is completely 279 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 3: fined by me. And I am a fan of La 280 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 3: LA's as well, because you know, I've always found laa 281 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 3: kind of annoying. But I feel like that last season 282 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 3: she was so brave to be the one to put 283 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 3: her hand up and be like, you know what, I'll 284 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 3: fucking say what we're all thinking, because we cannot have 285 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 3: a whole season where every single person on the cast 286 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 3: is scared to question anything, to do with Oriana just 287 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 3: because she's a fan favorite. So Lala was like, yeah, 288 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be the one that goes who gets cheated 289 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 3: on and becomes Beyonce. And of course, you know, the 290 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 3: person that I think that works the hardest on these 291 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 3: shows is often the most hated on. Like I mean, 292 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 3: that happened to Lisa Rinna, it's happening to Tamra now, 293 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 3: Like not to get into all the OC of it all, 294 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 3: but it's like, girl, I imagine if Alexis and Tamra, like 295 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 3: imagine they didn't bring Alexis back and Tamra wasn't clocking 296 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 3: in on this season of OC, like, you wouldn't even 297 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 3: really have a season. So anyway, shout out to the villains. 298 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 2: Now, listen, you don't love the villains because they entertainers 299 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 2: in you guys cannot have every bill and get fired 300 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 2: from the show. Sean sa Tama judge who I know 301 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 2: Jock also is a fan of as well. So speaking 302 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 2: of villains, la La has emerged as this villain only 303 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 2: because she did what you said. She addressed the elephant 304 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 2: in the room that we're all dancing around the fact 305 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 2: that all of us but I'll say it, but we 306 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 2: all feel this way that this woman has to come 307 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 2: Beyonce because she got cheated on and the woman who. 308 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: Gave the leads to the show by proxy got cheated 309 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: on by the star. 310 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 2: Of the show Tom And all of a sudden she's 311 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 2: getting the main segment on the view where they changed 312 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 2: the entire set to replicate. 313 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: What was it? Sir? 314 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 2: I think they tried to replicate it was And the 315 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 2: whole time with be Goldberg is like, what is going on? 316 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 2: But I guess this is a big deal. We'll we 317 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 2: go work in That second was so funny because she's 318 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 2: sort of like, Okay, so you got cheated on. 319 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: Your boyfriend, got it? What else is Nio like? 320 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 2: But so so Lala listen to La LA's point, Arianna 321 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 2: did emerge like you said to become in twenty twenty four, 322 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 2: and I have to give it to her. She is 323 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 2: the biggest starm Bramo like she is in twenty twenty four. 324 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 2: She she really is. Not too many people can say 325 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 2: they're hosting the number one daty show on Peacack, a 326 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 2: show that has international appeal. She also did a this 327 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 2: This After Emmy's Fashion you Know special with Nini leaks 328 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 2: and Justin Silvester on e she was Roxy in Chicago. 329 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 2: You know, so if you are Laala or the other women, 330 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 2: you know, Sena, if you are these these these women 331 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 2: who gave so much personal story to the show, I 332 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 2: understand why Lalla is frustrated. I too would be frustrated 333 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 2: if I gave my blood, sweat and tears to the show. 334 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 2: And now we're forced to see this woman emerge as 335 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 2: the star. So what we did learn at the reunion 336 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 2: and what we learned this article is the fact that 337 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 2: the show is a hit, and allegedly the cast is 338 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 2: asking for more money, and allegedly your sources is saying 339 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 2: that the network feels that this show is becoming too 340 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 2: expensive to even do another season. 341 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: If they're able to do one currently. 342 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 3: Well, you know they're figuring it out, because you have 343 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 3: to remember, it's a this is a huge cost, like 344 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 3: this is a bigger cost than other shows. And with Bravo, 345 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 3: you go up more money the law longer that you 346 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 3: stay on the show, and this will go into season 347 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 3: twelve now, and then people did negotiate pay rises after Scandaval, 348 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 3: So there's definitely a financial element that they're trying to 349 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 3: figure out. But again, it all goes back to like 350 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 3: at the end of like you can always figure out 351 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 3: financial stuff. Like I know, I'm not going to name 352 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 3: who it is, but I know that there was a 353 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 3: cast member a couple of seasons ago who actually was 354 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 3: demoted and people could but they still were showing up 355 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 3: like a main But what happened was they were sort 356 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 3: of thinking, we don't know if this person's bringing enough, 357 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 3: so they switched them to like a to pay them 358 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 3: by scene instead of having like a lump sum. So 359 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 3: it's like they really had to like show up to 360 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 3: work to earn their paycheck. So there's always like different 361 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 3: things that they can do with people, but really they're 362 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 3: trying to figure out how to get this group back together. 363 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 3: And they definitely are auditioning new people because I went 364 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 3: to an event at SO the other week and one 365 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 3: of the bartenders was telling my friend about like, yeah, 366 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 3: you know, we've done some auditions for this. I'm like 367 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 3: dying to get on the show, like I've been watching 368 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 3: it for years, Like you have all these like thirsty 369 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 3: people that have come and got jobs at least Evanna 370 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 3: Pump's restaurants now, and they're hoping to be cast. But 371 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 3: it's like, we don't know yet if it's going to 372 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 3: be a situation where they keep some of the OG's 373 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 3: and then just bring in some new people, like you know, 374 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 3: mix it together. Are they going to do a complete reboot? 375 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 3: Like they are looking at every single option and just 376 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 3: like what makes the most sense, because you know, Vana 377 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 3: Parmon Rules is a great show, and I think that 378 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 3: it has a certain level of quality to maintain, Like 379 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 3: I don't think this is just a show that you 380 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 3: can just like throw down the toilet. So I think 381 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 3: they're really really trying to get this right because you know, 382 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 3: you see with some other reboots, some reboots work, like 383 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 3: with Miami when they kind of did that where they're like, Okay, 384 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 3: let's keep some of the ogs and then bring in 385 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 3: some new people that worked. They've obviously done that with 386 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 3: Atlanta coming up, which I don't know, I feel like 387 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 3: some of the stuff I'm hearing about the Atlanta reboots great. 388 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 3: And then they did it with Ronnie where they did 389 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 3: a complete recast, which is the worst show in the 390 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 3: history of Bravo to ever air. So they're trying to 391 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 3: get it right. Girl, you know it's true. 392 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 1: Wait, girl, you know it's true. 393 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 2: Okay, look, look, look, let's have a real conversation talk 394 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 2: about it. 395 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: Okay, and we're going to get back to bad. I 396 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: want to talk about one more thing, and they're going 397 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: to move on. Okay. 398 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 2: Are you saying to me you consider the Real Housewives 399 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 2: of New York City reboot that is currently in a 400 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 2: second season. 401 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: You said it's the worst showing Bravo ever. 402 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 3: In history, Like it is so bad, and I think 403 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 3: that probably Jenna Lyons may be the worst housewife of 404 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 3: all time. And the fact they keep trying to guess 405 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 3: her up, like I could not believe whoever had the 406 00:21:56,119 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 3: audacity to give her the tagline of not everyone can 407 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 3: be Jenna lines, but they can try to be or whatever. 408 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 3: It's like, girl, no one wants to be you, Like 409 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 3: no one knows who you are, Like they tried to 410 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 3: act like they cast like Donna Tella VERSACEI or something 411 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 3: on the show. It's like, girl, nobody outside of like 412 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 3: New York Fashion Circles that was reading the cut ten 413 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 3: years ago knows who you are. And like no, Shade, 414 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 3: I'm sure you're a talented design of a Like please 415 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 3: stop trying to pretend that we just cast like Carl 416 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 3: Lagerfeld or like Mark Jacobs, like girl you designed for 417 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 3: what was it? Like The Gap or Jay Crew or 418 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 3: something like twenty years ago, and then you bring nothing 419 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 3: to the show, Like she's so scared of drama. I 420 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 3: feel like she sits in the corner like chattering her teeth, 421 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 3: terrified to even say anything. And it's just a horrible 422 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 3: show like it is. I can't think of like one 423 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 3: to quote Eileen. I can't think of one nice thing 424 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 3: to fucking say about it, like it's just so bad, 425 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 3: And can we talk about the last episode? Actually, I 426 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 3: need an to this because you are I need to 427 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 3: get your thoughts. Did you watch the do you watch 428 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 3: the last episode? 429 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 2: Okay, now, okay, I'm gonna be very honest with you, 430 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 2: because I'm honest with my rain drops Johns, I'm gonna 431 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 2: be honest with you. I watched all of the episodes, 432 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 2: plus the two par reunion of the reboot season one, 433 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 2: like well, the first season of the reboot. 434 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: I watch every episode. I too, and. 435 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna answer questions, but I gotta get some context. 436 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 2: I watch every episode the two ParvE reunion. I was 437 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 2: intrigued by them, and I liked them. 438 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: I wasn't in love with the show. I thought it 439 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 1: was amazing. 440 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, great effort, I'll watch it. And 441 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 2: I watched it in its entirety. I never understood the 442 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 2: high with Jenna Alliance, and this is the thing for me. Okay, 443 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 2: it's not Jennaaliant's fault that they are ushering her to 444 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 2: be seen as like this amazing cast that we, you know, 445 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 2: got on the show. 446 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 1: I really think listen, in my opinion, I think. 447 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 2: Jenna Lince is sort of like, I'm not doing this, 448 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 2: Like I think jennaal Lliance has a enough common sense 449 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 2: to know I'm a big deal in the fashion world, 450 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 2: and the people in the fashion world loved me and 451 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 2: adore me. This is reality television, and the Housewives audience 452 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 2: they want to look at tamer Judge, Kyle Richards, you know, 453 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 2: like you know, the leanne Lockins of them, like you 454 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 2: want to see people here, like really push the envelope. 455 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: And I even think she knows in this space, I'm. 456 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 2: Not a big deal to this audience and I and 457 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,959 Speaker 2: I don't see the hype in her. So season the 458 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 2: second season of the reboot is up, and I said, okay, 459 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 2: let me watch the premiere. 460 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 1: I saw the trailer and I was like, I'll watch 461 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: the premiere, right. 462 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 2: So I'm watching the premiere of the second season of 463 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 2: the reboot of New York City, and job, after maybe 464 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 2: twenty minutes, I stopped watching it, and and I'm gonna 465 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 2: be honest with. 466 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: You, I said to myself, I don't care. 467 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 2: I and again, I watch all of last season, and 468 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 2: I did care what I saw, And I want to 469 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 2: get your opinion on this because you're watching it. What 470 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 2: I saw in the first twenty minutes were all they're 471 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 2: conscious of the cameras now because the New York New 472 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 2: Yorkers are savvy people, right, the New Yorkers are known 473 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 2: to be savvy and very much awhere was going on. 474 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 2: And I felt like their first season was great because 475 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 2: you know, they were being themselves and they didn't. 476 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 3: Know like, Okay, no great, Well. 477 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: I said, not great, but watchable? 478 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 3: Well, so kind I watch all of it. 479 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 2: So the second second the second season of the ReFood, 480 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 2: and I didn't. 481 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: I didn't. I just didn't care. 482 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 2: I'm like, there's no major storyline. You all are talking 483 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 2: about photoshooting and see. 484 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: And said, I have something's going on. I don't give 485 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 1: a shit. 486 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 2: So I to answer your question, I haven't seen any 487 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 2: episodes this season now on Twitter. 488 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 1: I've heard some things, but ask your question. 489 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 3: Okay, Well I was going to say you have a 490 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 3: correct assessment because they I mean, I think there were 491 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 3: camera aware season one, like they were very aware. This season. 492 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 3: It is to another level where the real show is 493 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 3: completely happening off camera. This is a show about nothing. 494 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 3: They said Seinfeld was a show about nothing. The Rony 495 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 3: reboot is a show about nothing. And what they just 496 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 3: did on the latest episode and I could not believe 497 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 3: that they aired this, And as a producer, I want 498 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 3: to get your take is I mean, it was the 499 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 3: worst episode, not again. Nothing was happening, and then Uber 500 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 3: was like angry about something kind of didn't make sense 501 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 3: and it was ridiculous. And then they showed this clip 502 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 3: at the end where Brin and then Rebecca Minkoff, the 503 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 3: scientologist who doesn't want to talk about scientology, which is 504 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 3: the most interesting thing about her, and they're sitting there 505 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 3: and Brinn says something like, girl, I can't believe you 506 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 3: brought like, you know, three whole suitcases on the trip 507 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 3: and you haven't even changed your outfit yet, and Rebecca 508 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 3: was just like, yeah, you know, I'm in fashion, like 509 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 3: I travel with a lot of stuff. And then Brinn 510 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 3: was like, girl, like, if I say something like that 511 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 3: to you, you need to like throw it back to 512 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 3: me and be like, well, I work in fashion and 513 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 3: you sell merchant Bravo can't. And Rebecca's like, oh, I 514 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 3: don't know, I'm not really a mean girl like that. 515 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 3: And Brinn's like, well, you're not gonna last long in 516 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 3: this group if you don't do that, Like, come on, girl. 517 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 4: So they showed her coaching that air her to have 518 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 4: they aired it, and I was shocked because I'm like, wait, 519 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 4: So I'm trying to figure out. 520 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 3: I'm like, did they air this because they just have 521 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 3: absolutely nothing going on on this show that that's the 522 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 3: only interesting thing they can show or are they almost 523 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 3: just like you know what, like I don't even know 524 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 3: if we're going to fucking bring this show back off 525 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 3: to this year. Nothing's everything's happening off camera. Let's just 526 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 3: let's just throw them under the bus and do it. Like, 527 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 3: what do you why would they air that as a 528 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 3: producer showing people concocting fights on camera. 529 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: Oh, honey, Houston, Well, in this case, New York. We 530 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: have a problem. Ah my. 531 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 2: Nine times out of ten is what you said in 532 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 2: the former nothing's happening, and this is what drama they 533 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 2: can show you. Obviously, there's tons of breaking the fourth 534 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 2: wall moments that happens on these shows that you do 535 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 2: air because a it's fucking good and interesting and read 536 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 2: the audience love A forth the wall being broken when 537 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 2: it's something interesting that's about to happen, or when you. 538 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 5: Unveil like no, girl, you told me this to get 539 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 5: her like the camera shit and and friendship debacle over 540 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 5: the receipts of the text messages of the fourth wall 541 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 5: being broken. 542 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: Investigate this person. We could talk about it on camera 543 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: like that's interesting and and and and you. 544 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 2: See that in result of it, by this big fight, 545 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 2: Shannon Lee takes up my thought or whatever to have 546 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 2: that love conversation about clothes. 547 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but not only to it's it's a different 548 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 3: kind of fall fall break because it's not like, well 549 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 3: you said this soft camera to set me up. It's 550 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 3: literally like, girl, we need to have a fake fight, 551 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 3: so something happens on this show, like to break it 552 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 3: to that level as like never been done before. I 553 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 3: was like you're almost like tanking the entire network, like 554 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 3: this is beyond showing how the sausage is made, like 555 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 3: this is crazy, like you cannot hit this shocked down the. 556 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: Air and I'm curious to see you. So that was 557 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: that a cliffhanger that ended the episode. 558 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 3: No, So it was interesting. So they kind of slid 559 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 3: in there and it was kind of subtle, and they 560 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 3: I don't think they had the cameras on them when 561 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 3: they did it, so I think that they thought that 562 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 3: they were that they could have that without it being 563 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 3: but you know, obviously they're on the hot mic. But 564 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 3: then another they get into another fight that's about an 565 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 3: off camera thing. So they all go to bed and 566 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 3: then they're recounting in their confessionals because of course nobody 567 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 3: does anything on camera on this fucking snooze festiv a show. 568 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 3: And what had happened is like Uber's been like charging 569 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 3: through the house like I mean, she's on, she's just 570 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 3: like she's loopy. It's like hard to figure her out. 571 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 3: And then you know Brin who is you know, she's biracial, 572 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 3: which she revealed last season. They're talking off camera and 573 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 3: Brinn was like, girl, like you need to like chill, 574 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 3: because you're going to come off like the angry black woman. 575 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 3: You look crazy, and you're gonna look like the angry 576 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 3: black woman on this show this you know German banker 577 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 3: Oliver that your dating is going to leave you when 578 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 3: they see this played back. You look crazy girl? 579 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 5: What? 580 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 3: And then Uber apparently, but this all happens off camera 581 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 3: and they're telling you what happened in the confessionals because 582 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 3: obviously the producers must have sins like you know what 583 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 3: is going on now, like Uber, like why are you 584 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 3: out at Brin or something? And they've had to like 585 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 3: drag it out of them to like say this in 586 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 3: their confessionals. So then they told the story about how 587 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,959 Speaker 3: they had to fight about that, and then that's what 588 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 3: the cliffhanger kind of is. 589 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: Ooh so Brin, Brin, You're okay. 590 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 2: So if that happened in the same episode and Brent 591 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 2: did two things to show that she has these off 592 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 2: camera conversations. Brian, you're the villain of season and you're 593 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 2: being exposed. This is this season may be the exposed 594 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 2: exposure of brn it seems like, and what's funny. 595 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: Is out of the whole cast, I like Brent a 596 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: lot last. 597 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 2: Season because she was like kind of refreshing to me, like, Okay, 598 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 2: she's wacky, she's funny, she's still like whatever. I think 599 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 2: you're right. I think it goes to show you that 600 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 2: nothing's happened. Nothing's happening. 601 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: They had to do this so interesting is. 602 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 2: Cy was on Jeff Lewis show before the season premiere, 603 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 2: You're shaking your head right, and she was called a 604 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 2: hot mic when somebody asked her like, how's this season 605 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 2: and she said that. 606 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: Quote kind of boring And I remember. 607 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 2: Watching that like cast member saying it in that way, like. 608 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 3: And she even said in that they were like, how's 609 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 3: the new girl, Rebecca, and she was like, Oh, she's 610 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 3: kind of boring, and like we're trying to you know, 611 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 3: people are trying to activate her, but she's not biting, 612 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 3: Like I'm trying to get it to go, and she's 613 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 3: not doing it. And then on top of that, Rebecca 614 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 3: Minkoff in one of her press interviews for the show, 615 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 3: she said, oh, I suggested to Jenna Lyons that we 616 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 3: have a like that we stage a fight about who's 617 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 3: the most fashionable. And then Jenna Lyons was like, girl, 618 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 3: I'm not doing nothing. 619 00:32:58,960 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: You buy. 620 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 3: So it's just a whole lot of like, it's a 621 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 3: show about people that are trying to create a fake show, 622 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 3: is what this show is about. 623 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: Now that's not good, child. 624 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 2: We are just getting started. This is reality with the 625 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 2: King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show. 626 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, Jock, well, I'm telling you me. 627 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 2: Watching the first twenty minutes of this current season, the 628 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 2: premiere event, I'm just like, I'm not into it. 629 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: And I thought like, well, maybe you're tired and it 630 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: just having a bad day. But I didn't. 631 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 2: I didn't feel the urge to watch it, Like I'm 632 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 2: watching OC every week, like standing appointment, like I'm at drybar, 633 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 2: like get my hair done, like I need it. 634 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: I need it in my life. Right, I'm watching that religiously. 635 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 2: I don't care to watch New York City and apparently 636 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 2: I'm not missing anything. 637 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: So do you think. 638 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 2: That, based on what sounds to me like not a 639 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 2: great season of New York City Housewives, do you think 640 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 2: that the network may be a little careful with the 641 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 2: fate of what Vanda par Rules can be because it 642 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 2: goes to show you that you can't get rid of 643 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 2: everybody and starting to show, and you may do your 644 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 2: best working with the Vanda per Rules cast to figure 645 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,320 Speaker 2: it out. Because one thing that the Daily Mail you 646 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 2: know you guys stated was that allegedly, before Scandalball happened, 647 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 2: it was going to be one final season of Vanda 648 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 2: par Rules, and that allegedly the Two Times were going 649 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 2: to have a spin off about Tom Tom. 650 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. 651 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 3: Well, they've been trying to do different things, like if 652 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 3: people know their Bravo history, like The Valley was supposed 653 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 3: to happen years ago. What they were going to do 654 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 3: was they were going to spin off like star Cy 655 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 3: Jacks Kristen, like the vander pump Ogs, put them on 656 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 3: their own show, which ended up becoming The Valley, and 657 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 3: then Redo Vander Pump Wiles with the whole new bunch 658 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 3: of twenty somethings. And then when like COVID and BLM 659 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 3: and all the cancelations happened, then that got put on 660 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 3: Ice and then they were looking at doing like a 661 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 3: Tom Tom so the Tom Tom's spin off. So they've 662 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 3: been exploring a lot of different options. They're still looking 663 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 3: at potentially like even maybe doing two shows. It's like 664 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 3: everything is on the table and it's just it's like 665 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 3: putting a puzzle together of just like how do we 666 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 3: get the best product out there and make this work. Personally, 667 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 3: I kind of think that I think they should maybe 668 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 3: get rid of Ariana, which I know she's the biggest star, 669 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 3: but I think they could do it in a way 670 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 3: where Arianna still gets to look good. Arianna can just say, look, 671 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 3: I'm so busy at hosting Love Island and doing all 672 00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 3: these other things. I'm just going to take a break 673 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 3: from them a pump for now, and then, you know, 674 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 3: if Katie wants to not come, I mean I would 675 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 3: hire even though Katie's very popular now at the moment, 676 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 3: I think Katie had a really great season, so I 677 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 3: do think she's like needed. But Katie also doesn't seem 678 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 3: to want to film with certain people. So I would 679 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,439 Speaker 3: maybe hire Katie back as like a friend, and they'd 680 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 3: be like, girl, if you can like mix with the 681 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 3: group and everything, and it's like, we'll just upgrade you 682 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,399 Speaker 3: back to like full time, like within a few weeks 683 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 3: of filming or something, but let's just see how it goes. 684 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 3: But I would take Ariana out because I feel like 685 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 3: everybody else can put their shit aside and film together 686 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 3: and then i'd put a few new people in there 687 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 3: and I would just do it like that and I 688 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 3: would see how it goes, and if it's not working, 689 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 3: then I don't know, make it a farewell season, and 690 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 3: I don't know produce it on the fly a bit, 691 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 3: but we do need another season. And I think last 692 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,240 Speaker 3: season was actually good. I know a lot of people 693 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 3: hated it, and you were mentioning before as well that 694 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 3: like people watched it and they were like, we're a 695 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 3: bit sick of Scandabal, which is true. But it's like 696 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 3: production had no choice other than to produce the show 697 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 3: like that because Scandival was the biggest reality TV scandal 698 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 3: in like ten years pretty much, and you couldn't just 699 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 3: do a season where you're not addressing it. It's the 700 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 3: biggest thing ever. So it's like they were damned if 701 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 3: they did, damned if they didn't. And I think they 702 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 3: did the best. I think they did the best job 703 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 3: they could. And I actually found the season very interesting 704 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 3: because I could I could understand where everybody was coming from. 705 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 3: It's like, I can see why Ariana is really upset 706 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 3: that people aren't all having her back. I see where 707 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 3: Tom's coming from. I see why Sheen is kind of 708 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 3: like jealous, Like I felt like it was very interesting, 709 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 3: and I think with viewers of reality television, especially with Bravo, 710 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 3: what the audience tends to do is it's so hardcore, 711 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 3: like we're just team this person and we hate that 712 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 3: other person. But for me, when I watch Vanda Probabol's 713 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 3: last year, I'm like, I can see everybody's perspective. I 714 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 3: don't find one person to be specifically bad. So I 715 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 3: think the s and it's a really great cost, Like 716 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 3: that is a good cost. So you just have to 717 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 3: figure out how to get them together, whether it's bringing 718 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 3: in some new paople or not, and keep going. So 719 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,359 Speaker 3: I definitely would not get rid of the show yet. 720 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 3: And the ratings are still good too. 721 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: That's yes, the ratings were still solid. It was definitely 722 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: still solid, and I agree with you. 723 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 2: I think, listen what I would do if it was 724 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 2: my show, I would make Ariana part time because you 725 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 2: want to see like the resolve of her and Tom. 726 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 1: Listen, we all want to see her and La La 727 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:30,359 Speaker 1: go at it, right. 728 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 2: I do think Arianna has I've grown the show too, 729 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 2: and I think let her continue to host the number 730 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 2: one dating show Peacock. It's a great gig for her, 731 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 2: let her experience everything she wants to experience outside of 732 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 2: the show. 733 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 1: Because listen, I was. 734 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 2: Hard on her last season because I'm like, okay, girl, 735 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 2: like film with Tom, like film with him, Like it's 736 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 2: not the end of the world. 737 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: But she feels that uncomfortable. 738 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 2: Then it's like, Okay, we heard Ulama, clear, there's other 739 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 2: things you can do. She's hosting Erich Harpet event, so 740 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 2: she will still be in the Bravo family in VC Universal, 741 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 2: so she still has ways to make money. But I 742 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 2: definitely would face her out of this season. I think 743 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 2: the cast she doesn't want to be with them, and 744 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 2: if they don't want to hang out with her, I 745 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 2: think La La Tom, Tom, Sheena. You know, I think 746 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,839 Speaker 2: the rest of the casts are able to sort of 747 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,280 Speaker 2: like have a relationship. 748 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 1: James Kennedy, who I just love. 749 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 2: I think he's such a great reality star because he 750 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:37,919 Speaker 2: doesn't give a fuck. 751 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:39,879 Speaker 1: And that was the beauty of Ben the Poor Rules. 752 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 2: It was a group of kids who just didn't give 753 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 2: a fuck, and they were so honest and so raw 754 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,320 Speaker 2: and so real. I would love to see that cast return, 755 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 2: mixed in with some new blood that can really shake 756 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 2: this tree. So I agree with you with that. We 757 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 2: don't want to reboot, so don't do that to This 758 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,040 Speaker 2: show is a great brand, is a huge show. The 759 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 2: ratings are great based on what's happening in New York City. Yikes. 760 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 2: But good news is the Real Housewise of Billy Hills 761 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 2: is returning, and I don't know about your job. That 762 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 2: trailer you get to see the old dereet and I'm 763 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 2: a happy, happy, happy camper. Okay. 764 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 3: I have to say that I didn't love the trailer, 765 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 3: but I think the reason I didn't love it was 766 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,800 Speaker 3: because I've heard all the tea about the new season, 767 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 3: and I can tell you that the trailer does not 768 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 3: even capture what we're about to see, and I know 769 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 3: that that is scratching the surface of Deree. 770 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's that's good thing. Okay, So we have 771 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,879 Speaker 1: a lot to look forward too. So no, don't fail 772 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 1: us what you've heard. 773 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 2: But are you confirming exclusively on reality with the King 774 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 2: that this upcoming season of the Real Housewives of Billy 775 00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 2: Hills is going to be explosive? 776 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 3: Deree came to play Deriet has a very unexpected friendship 777 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 3: with someone on the show it is, girl, I'll tell 778 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 3: you some tea off my ce gag you'll die. It's 779 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 3: gonna be good. 780 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 1: I'm hard on Dure, so I listen. John. 781 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 2: I said this on Twitter maybe a year or too ago, 782 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 2: that Dried is the perfect example of somebody who was 783 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 2: fantastic their first season and second in fact, and then 784 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 2: social media got ahold of her and I said she 785 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 2: was never the same after being villainized on social media. 786 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,800 Speaker 2: People hated her and I'm like, where is my deriy? 787 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,720 Speaker 2: I loved her? So are we going to see old 788 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,439 Speaker 2: dur return? Because my favorite moment of Derey is when 789 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 2: she told me, Sabrina, back up, if I could smell 790 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,320 Speaker 2: your breath, you're too close. 791 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 1: Back up. 792 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 3: I hear that we're getting old to eat back like 793 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 3: it's the It's bigger than her first season. It's like 794 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,439 Speaker 3: it's next level to eat. And I have to say 795 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,879 Speaker 3: to defend Deitt, I agree that she had a few 796 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 3: years where I'm like, girl, she needs to get fired. 797 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 3: And I really hate her fashion. It's so contrived and 798 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 3: I really didn't like her leaning on her you know, 799 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 3: head to toe Gucci logo, Marlo Hampton outfits. But I 800 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,840 Speaker 3: feel like Marlo Hampton pulls off the looks so much better. 801 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 3: Like I feel like the clothes really wear to Eat, 802 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,280 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like I feel like Marlow 803 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 3: like makes it work and it's like yes, girl, But 804 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 3: I just feel like Dereat I never got it. But 805 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,800 Speaker 3: I really started to like to Eat last season because 806 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 3: I felt like she was one of the only ones 807 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 3: that wasn't scared of Garcel. And I don't know if 808 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 3: that's just because she is in such a bubble that 809 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 3: she almost didn't care, but I you know, you can 810 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,320 Speaker 3: tell that a lot of these other girls are scared 811 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 3: to come against Garcel because you know, they all saw 812 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,400 Speaker 3: what happened to Kyle that first season with them when 813 00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 3: she brought up the charity that suddenly she was, you know, 814 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,839 Speaker 3: in the KKK or something. So these girls don't want 815 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 3: to like mention Garseell because she will like bring that up, 816 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 3: and she did bring it up with Dared, but darit 817 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,319 Speaker 3: still like sat there and took it and took the 818 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 3: like you're a Karen and everything. So I was kind 819 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 3: of like, oh, I already feel like Dari's starting to 820 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 3: be like, you know, fuck this, Like if this is 821 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 3: my opinion, I'm going to say it, and now I 822 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,879 Speaker 3: know that this next season, she's just like she's going 823 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 3: after everyone. I think she gets into it with Garsel, 824 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 3: with Kyle obviously, and I know the husband's film a lot, 825 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 3: so we're going to see a lot of all these 826 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 3: you know, the personal relationships with everybody, Like it's all there. 827 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,320 Speaker 2: If y'all to see my face right now, I'm smiling 828 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:42,840 Speaker 2: from here to hear I listen. Is the reason why 829 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:47,439 Speaker 2: I'm very particular about what I consume, because I don't 830 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,759 Speaker 2: want to watch shit for the sake of watching it. Like, 831 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 2: I'm a busy guy, have a lot going on. So 832 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 2: when I take time to sell to my couch and 833 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 2: give you forty two minutes of my time, meg it 834 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,840 Speaker 2: worth it? Oh see is doing for me this season? 835 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:06,759 Speaker 2: Billy Hills is one of my favorite shows. It consistently delivers. 836 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 2: Last season wasn't that great. 837 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,879 Speaker 1: But I watched every season because I'm not. 838 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 2: Season every episode because I really was just into like 839 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:20,719 Speaker 2: Kyle and Mauricio's situation. I'm so looking forward to this 840 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:25,799 Speaker 2: upcoming season that airs November nineteenth. It's it's it's such 841 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 2: a phenomenal show. But before I let you go, I 842 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 2: need to ask you the most pressing question. What's that? 843 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,280 Speaker 1: Are you team Tamra or team jin. 844 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 3: I okay, I team both of them, because I think 845 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 3: I think that I'm team both of them. You know, 846 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 3: I'm definitely my Housewives. Ing has shifted a lot where 847 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,840 Speaker 3: I can really see where everyone comes from. But I 848 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,720 Speaker 3: just have to say, people need to lay off Tamera 849 00:44:55,880 --> 00:45:02,879 Speaker 3: because come on, allegedly Ryan is. You know, I think 850 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 3: Tama's right about a lot of stuff. The people don't 851 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:09,799 Speaker 3: like the delivery, and I think the truth hurts. And 852 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 3: you know, I've heard a lot of things about Shannon 853 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 3: over the years, and you probably heard a lot of 854 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 3: things about Shannon too, from many different sources. And I 855 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 3: it is, you know, a twist of fate that somehow 856 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 3: Shannon became the most loved person on this show again. 857 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 3: I mean, she is just so lucky that Alexis came back. 858 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 3: By the way, I ran into Alexis at a party 859 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 3: a few weeks ago. She was lovely, I was getting 860 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 3: all the tea. I feel so bad for her, and 861 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,359 Speaker 3: I know that they're trying to figure out what to 862 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,719 Speaker 3: do with Alexis because I know they want to bring 863 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,880 Speaker 3: her back. But they're also like, how can we bring 864 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,359 Speaker 3: Shannon And they're trying to figure that out as well, 865 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,280 Speaker 3: like they're trying to figure out with vander Prong rules. 866 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 3: But yes, I think I'm team Tamara. 867 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 1: Okay, now miss it. I love Tamara. She's a friend 868 00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 1: of mine. 869 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 2: I spoke to her recently as well. And listen, Tamra's 870 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 2: doing well. And I will say this, I would want 871 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 2: the audience to always share their opinion, whether it's good 872 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,880 Speaker 2: or bad. That's what makes this sort of like process 873 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 2: works for us right when were producing shows. But I 874 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:23,840 Speaker 2: would say that, just know that somebody can appear to 875 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,840 Speaker 2: be tough on camera, but you could be very fragile 876 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 2: behind the scenes when you are getting attacked. 877 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 1: Just listen, and I want my audience to understand this. 878 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,439 Speaker 2: These women on these shows can handle being attacked by 879 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 2: their castmates because it's like five to six people that 880 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,840 Speaker 2: you have to deal with, right, Multiply that by a thousand, 881 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,719 Speaker 2: and you're dealing with that with strangers. 882 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:52,279 Speaker 1: It is a lot. 883 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 2: And what I want to encourage the fandom is is 884 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 2: one thousand percent they don't care to have an opinion 885 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:06,319 Speaker 2: stated like and mean it it's all good. 886 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 1: However, say it once and move on. 887 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:16,319 Speaker 2: Is when you constantly labor it to where someone I 888 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 2: feel bad for alexis to you know as well. 889 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 1: She has cut off her comments. 890 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 2: For months because she can't handle it, and nor is 891 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,399 Speaker 2: she supposed to handle. That's sort of this raw from 892 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 2: from the audience. It's it's it's what you sign up for, yes, 893 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,200 Speaker 2: but no one signs up to be bullied. When a 894 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,759 Speaker 2: child goes to school, he may be aware that things 895 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,040 Speaker 2: may happen, but nobody signs up to be bullied and 896 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:44,879 Speaker 2: have to take it and say, well, suck it up. 897 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,360 Speaker 1: And I want people to look look. 898 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 2: At that when it comes to the reality stars, like, yes, okay, Tim, 899 00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:52,800 Speaker 2: I may not be the most love and that's fine, 900 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 2: but have some grace for a woman who is providing 901 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,920 Speaker 2: us with some great time television. And we saw what 902 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 2: a season was like with our camera and I don't 903 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 2: ever want to see that again. 904 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 3: People need to remember always this is a television show. Yes, 905 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,279 Speaker 3: it's well, sometimes it's real. Sometimes it's not. As we're 906 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 3: seeing on Roney, they're there trying to stage fight. So 907 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:20,279 Speaker 3: there's a lot that goes into reality television. There's there's 908 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,480 Speaker 3: editing there, there is so much, and yeah, I wish 909 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,240 Speaker 3: people would kind of lay off with the hate towards 910 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,399 Speaker 3: certain cast members, and then you do run these really 911 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,440 Speaker 3: great people off the shows, and then the shows end 912 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,800 Speaker 3: up flopping and being awful because we got rid of people. 913 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 3: And it's just like crazy, how quickly the audience can change. 914 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 3: Because even if you go back to Vanda promt Rules, 915 00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 3: Larla was actually very popular for a while and then 916 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,240 Speaker 3: from the last season it and she's suddenly the most 917 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,759 Speaker 3: absolutely the most hated. And then Katie Maloney was kind 918 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,960 Speaker 3: of the opposite. Everyone thought she was just this boring 919 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,359 Speaker 3: nag that had like no charisma and was, you know, 920 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,319 Speaker 3: always raining on Schwartz's parade, and now she's like a 921 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 3: fan favorite. And when they fired Tamera, everyone was like, 922 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 3: we need Tamera back, this is so bad. Then as 923 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 3: soon as they bring Tamera back, then they all hate 924 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 3: her again. So it's just like, let's just chill out 925 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,640 Speaker 3: and yeah, it's fine, I have your opinion, but you know, 926 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,360 Speaker 3: you don't need to be like dming these people and 927 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 3: like leaving hate comments on their pages and stuff like that. 928 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,160 Speaker 3: They're all they're trying to entertain you and just watch 929 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 3: it as a television show. 930 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,839 Speaker 1: Yes, and that also goes from me and Jock. 931 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,840 Speaker 2: Do not leave hay comments on my reviews on Apple 932 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,960 Speaker 2: or Spotify if you disagree with this, Okay, we appreciate 933 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:35,920 Speaker 2: you all, all right, Jock, let. 934 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,800 Speaker 1: The world know where they can find you, follow you, 935 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 1: support you. 936 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 2: You're an amazing journalist, an amazing producer, and an amazing 937 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:43,880 Speaker 2: podcast host. 938 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,839 Speaker 1: So let them know wherey can find you. 939 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,279 Speaker 3: Thank you. You can get everything. Just follow me on 940 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:53,560 Speaker 3: Instagram at Unpopular JP. I post links to my Patreon episodes. 941 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,719 Speaker 3: I just you know, post my takes on the Instagram stories. 942 00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,399 Speaker 3: I used to be a heavy tweeter, which is how 943 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,440 Speaker 3: you and I I became friends, but I definitely pulled 944 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:06,560 Speaker 3: back from that. I'm like, this is too much. Follow 945 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 3: me on Instagram and you can get everything there. 946 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,000 Speaker 1: There you go, all right, and rain Doc. I will 947 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 1: see you guys next week. 948 00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,120 Speaker 2: Thank you all for listening and I'll see you next week. 949 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:19,200 Speaker 1: Bye bye. 950 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to Reality with the King, Share, comment, follow, 951 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,919 Speaker 2: and subscribe to Reality with the King. Wherever you get 952 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:37,360 Speaker 2: your podcast, visit Reality withthe King dot com and be 953 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 2: sure to follow me at the Carlos King Underscore on Instagram, Twitter, 954 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,279 Speaker 2: TikTok and yes, Baby, my YouTube channel where you could 955 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:50,360 Speaker 2: get all of my visuals, Baby, my expressions, Yes, and 956 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,840 Speaker 2: don't forget. 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