WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Analyzing the Fake 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:07.120 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:18.880 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Lets go. Are you 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:23.040 ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:27.360 Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that. 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:32.720 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:39.040 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:46.120 It is Monday, November thirtieth, twenty twenty, season sixteen, episode 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:48.920 number seventy one. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break. 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:51.960 We're live from the s WBC Mortgage studios at the 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:54.360 Star at least Nick is. The rest of us are 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:57.120 at our homes. We'll be doing the show here. I'll 0:00:57.160 --> 0:00:59.440 be doing the show here this week and back in 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:01.760 the studio next week. But that doesn't stop us. We 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:04.560 got an hour, actually forty five minutes of Cowboys talk 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:07.440 for you guys, and today we've got to rehash that 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:11.120 game from a Thanksgiving Day. The Cowboys lose to the 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:15.520 Washington football team forty one to sixteen in a game 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:18.839 that well, I'll let you guys tell us the bigger 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:21.040 storyline of the game, because it seemed like for me 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:25.600 that game, that final score didn't necessarily reflect the game 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:28.240 through most of the game, but obviously at the end 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:30.600 of the game, it just all exploded on the Cowboys 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:33.680 and they lose forty one to sixteen. Let's go and 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:36.000 start with the storylines of the game. Nick, let's start 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:38.400 with you. I mean, just when I wrote there were 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:41.680 one dimensional, they couldn't run the ball, and when they 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:43.960 showed it early in the game that they couldn't run. 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:47.720 And when that happens, you know, obviously, especially on the defense, 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:50.320 that goody, they they're gonna be looking for all kinds 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:53.840 of trick gadget crap that they try to throw out there, 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:56.360 and it didn't work. But I mean, this team was 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:59.560 built to go run the football. They're obviously not built 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:02.160 that way more. And they were just so one dimensional 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:04.600 and it affected them throughout the game and gave and 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:13.680 it gave Washington short fields. Amber Well, doesn't matter how 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:18.520 bad the NFC is, ease, it's just not gonna happen 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:23.560 this year for the Cowboys. I had jumped back on 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:27.639 the train thinking that after Minnesota they were able to 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:30.519 do some things, and then this happened. It's like, if 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:33.200 it's not one thing, it's another, you get your two 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:37.040 starting tackles. They go out of the game early, but 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:39.960 then the Cowboys are still kind of in there. You know, 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:44.560 they're still competing. But then the coaching staff, the coaching decisions, 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:47.880 I don't understand, and I know we're gonna get into it, 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:51.480 but it's just like, men, it's just we cannot enjoy 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:54.920 one single game in peace. It's always gotta be one 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:58.480 problem with this team. So that's all I have to 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:02.600 say in a nice way at this you know it's 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:04.799 funny at this moment. Is I don't know. I think 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:07.400 we were all on that text message Thursday when Amber 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:10.680 was like, all right, I'm done. I'm absolutely done. So 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:12.680 we knew this was coming and that was very light. 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:14.680 So as we get into the show, I'm sure Amber 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:16.760 will have more than she wants to throw on that pile. 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:21.920 But that was a good four days to cool down day. 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:24.920 What you got for us, I'm gonna Angie, we just 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:27.200 we got to talk about just ride in the middle, man, 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:30.280 Like you can't you can't follow. You can't follow the 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:32.680 team on this roller coaster. It's gonna drive you crazy. 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:37.560 Because listen, Thursday sucked. They looked terrible, but like they're 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:40.839 almost in the exact same boat that they already were like, Yeah, 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:43.920 it's it's bad to lose a division game, but the 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:46.280 roller Coasters not over. Like, there's five more of these 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:48.640 to go against some terrible teams. So all I'm saying 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:52.240 is just get ready to be frustrated for another month. 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:54.760 If I had to guess um. As far as the 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:58.920 game itself, I agree. I agree with with what Age 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:01.480 just said. It like the decision making like this, this 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:05.080 shouldn't have been a blowout loss. I'm taking the point 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:09.400 from Rob Phillips, but Washington basically started three possession in 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:12.960 the Cowboys red zone. Two of those were questionable coaching decisions, 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:15.480 and one wasn't fumbled by Ezekiel Elliott. I think that's 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:18.359 the story of the game, self inflicted errors. I know 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:20.360 it sucks that they lost their tackles on the first 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:22.800 drive of the game, but they were in it and 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:24.320 I know, well, you know we're gonna get into the 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:26.520 fake punt, but they were in it until the coaches 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:29.719 decided that they didn't need to be anymore. In my opinion, 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:35.039 this is a game more than any other this season 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:38.120 where I put it on the coaching staff just putting 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:43.240 their team in really bad situations. Let's jump into that. 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:46.520 I really want to dive into these these two. It 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:49.800 were two coaching decisions I think that we really need 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:52.640 to talk about as we start our moments that mattered. 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:55.240 We'll start with these two and then we'll go around 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:57.560 and let you guys talk about the moments that mattered 0:04:57.760 --> 0:05:01.479 to you. The first coaching decision, it was a fourth down. 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:04.440 It was in the first quarter, about five twenty two 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:08.320 left in the first quarter. Dallas and Washington were tie 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:11.599 ten ten. And the interesting thing was it was a 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:14.880 third and one at the Dallas thirty four. Dallas runs 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:17.720 a shovel pass to Ceedee Lamb, gets no gain, and 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:20.480 then they come back on fourth and one and they 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:23.240 have an incomplete pass to Ceedee Lamb where he was 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:26.560 in one on one coverage on the outside. Tell me, 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:29.760 do you do you agree or disagree with that decision? 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:33.600 And why? Let's start first with you, Dave, the decision 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:36.800 to go for it or the decision to throw a pass. Yep, No, 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:39.800 I don't mean the whole thing. Okay, I'm I'm not 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:42.000 gonna sit here and question the decision to go for it. 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:45.719 I'm I like aggressive football. I like when coaches play bold. 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:49.279 You know, it's fourth and short, third and short for 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:51.200 that matter, like you should be able to pick that up. 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:53.320 We saw him do it last week, and everybody applauded 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:56.040 him for it. Um, I really hate the play call 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:58.200 to throw it out to Cede Lamb on a hitch 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:00.560 like that. I mean, you know, they said that they 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:03.039 felt like they had a favorable matchup. Even if you do, 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:06.760 it's such a high risk play on a fourth down. 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:10.520 I really I thought that was really dumb. I you know, 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:12.760 I think me and Nick are an agreement that in 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:16.440 situations like this, there's just gotta be a way to 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:19.760 make it easy. I mean, like, Okay, you don't feel 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:22.200 comfortable quarterback sneaking with Andy Dalton, There's got to be 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:24.159 somebody else on the roster that can do it. Or 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:26.640 you know, you pay your running back fifteen million dollars 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:28.480 a year, you'd like to think that he can pick 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:32.080 up nine inches. So, you know, I definitely don't hate 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:34.760 the call, but I hate the play that they decided 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:38.880 to do it with. If Andy Dalton had issues with 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:41.000 his concussion, he didn't play like it. I mean, he 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:42.960 was diving all over the place, he was running and 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:46.000 and you know, and yeah, trying to get first downs 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:48.200 and all that. So I don't And then they ran 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:50.960 it later, Yeah, they ran it later in the game. 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:53.560 So I mean, I'm with you, David. I don't like 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:55.640 to throw out there, you know, I can't. I can't 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:58.040 say I hate the third down play because they did 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:00.440 it a couple times against Minnesota and as he to work, 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:02.800 so it was like, oh, that's a good play. But 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:05.160 you know, it's just to me, that was the difference 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:07.600 in the game. It's just showing that we can't run Zeke. 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:09.640 We know we can't run Zeke. We're not even gonna try. 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:11.920 We're gonna try o this stuff, and you know, it 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:14.640 just kind of so deflating for the team that, like, 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:17.320 we can't do what we're supposed to do to run 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:19.400 to get a yard, we have to try other things 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:24.360 and it didn't work. What I don't get it's like 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:27.440 at that point of the game, Zeke hadn't had the fumble. 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:30.680 Like the fumble happened in the third quarter, so it 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:33.240 was still pretty early in the game. Why do you 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:38.000 feel so like you had no confidence on Zeke or 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:40.480 even Tony Polar for that matter. I mean, we've seen 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:43.480 Tony Pollard being able to run the ball as well. 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:47.640 So that's just very very confusing to me, as I 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:50.800 can't really remember how the old line was playing at 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:56.120 that specific moment, but it shouldn't have been that back 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:58.800 to the point where you can't just get one like 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:03.160 first down, Like, I just don't understand. It blows my mind. 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:05.600 And the fact that it happened not just one time, 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:08.840 it happened multiple times. That's the thing with me that 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:11.800 I just completely don't understand. Why not run the ball? 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:16.360 Do you guys think that maybe they obviously they respects, 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:20.440 they respected the Washington defensive front. Do you think that 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:22.400 maybe in this instance they were giving a little bit 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:26.320 too much respect to that defensive front and thinking, hey, 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:28.840 we gotta do something different because we don't think that 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:32.240 we can necessarily run at will against the front. This good. 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:37.080 Well go back to the after the jail interception. You 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:38.719 know it's first and goal in the four, it was 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:41.880 second and goal at the six. I mean, they looks 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:43.880 like a run play on first down. That looks like 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:45.640 a play that you know, you would think you would run. 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:48.840 Washington guess that. And so I'm just I think that 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:51.000 Cowboys looked at it and said, when we want to 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:54.280 run the ball up the middle and that matchup, you 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:56.679 know that man on man is not good for us. 0:08:56.960 --> 0:09:00.000 Looney's not gonna win. McGovern's not gonna win. Connor william 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:02.800 is not going to win. They're not gonna win. And 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:05.200 then even the tackles at that point in the game. 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:07.880 I mean it just so it's like they've got to 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:11.000 try something else, but you know, just just showing that 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:13.560 we're not even going to try. I agree with the Amber. 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:15.320 I think you have to try right there that point 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:17.200 in the game, you at least have to try to 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:20.200 see if our fifteen million to a year running back 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:24.280 can get a yard, which, on the flip side, I 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:26.640 agree with everything Nick just said. But the flip side 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:29.960 is in the NFL, if you telegraph that you're going 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:32.400 to run right up the gut and you're not good 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:34.280 at it, or you don't have the line or the 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:36.840 back or whatever like, you will get stopped. The Cowboys 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:39.520 did against Minnesota on third and one last week. They 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:42.520 got absolutely stuffed and they had to do the end 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:45.040 a round to CD to get the first down. So 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:48.600 I definitely can't you know, like no, they probably were 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:51.480 paying the proper amount of respect to Washington's front, like 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:53.760 they might not have gotten it, but yeah, I still 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:56.240 think you need to try or you know, that's a 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:58.160 situation where if you know you're gonna do it, you've 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:01.360 got two downs to get it. So maybe try Zeke 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:04.600 on third and again. Like I just I think the 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:08.480 quarterback sneak should be that play almost every single time. 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:10.720 And like, if you don't trust Andy Dalton to do it, 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:13.160 then find somebody else who can. That's what's so valuable 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:16.360 about Dak is h He's gonna get it ninety nine 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:19.400 times out of one hundred. But I joked on Thursday, 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:22.560 like Blake Bell played quarterback in college, he could definitely 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:24.840 handle a snap and run forward for a yard. Like 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:27.679 I would have that in my playbook every single week. 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:31.320 And you can't convince me that it wouldn't work in 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:33.520 a situation like that at least, you know, and earlier 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:35.440 in the game at that point the first quarter, I 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:38.240 think Zeke was a fullback and with Pollard back there, 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:41.920 and you can't think that that's that's the only play 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:44.360 that's design there. It's just to run Zeke up the 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:46.680 middle and a fullback. I mean, it's it's to do 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:49.280 something else. So I probably would have gone back to that. 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:52.640 They're thinking, Zeke, that's maybe when Pollard gets it. I 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:57.360 don't know, tell Zeke to block be a lead fullback. Yeah, 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:00.160 but you know that's always been one glad amberg Am. 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:03.640 I was just gonna say that, you guys are saying, oh, yeah, 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:06.000 pay respect to them or whatever, but how about you 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:09.760 have some self respect, like, have some self respect, respect 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:12.719 your own team and go out there like you you 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:15.360 you feel like you believe on your own team and 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:17.480 you believe that you can do it. To me, that 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:20.719 just shows that you're scared that you you know, you're 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:24.400 incapable of doing those kinds of plays, and you need 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:26.400 to go out there. It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:28.720 who you're playing against. You need to go play with 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:32.439 self confidence. And to me, those kinds of decisions just 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:35.200 goes to show me or made me think that you 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:37.360 don't think that your team has what he had what 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:40.000 he needs to be able to make it happen. What 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:43.000 if that's true though, like, like honestly, because that's kind 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:45.000 of what I wrote. No, I wrote that that whole 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:47.480 thing I kind of said that was this is where 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:50.640 the game was lost. But what if McCarthy, I'm just 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:53.000 I'm just saying, you know, what if that's really the answer, 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:55.200 Like I don't believe that, but I mean, we still 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:56.959 have to play. We're not going to cancel. So like, 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:00.400 what what do you do if you really believe, hey, 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:05.120 we cannot move these guys off the ball now? I honestly, 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:07.920 I honestly believe that is the evaluation, and quite frankly, 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:10.800 I think it's right the right evaluation. I don't think 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:14.040 this offensive line can pick up that first down then 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:16.920 that kind of short yardage situation unless you do something 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:19.200 that's a little different. And Nick, that's where I go 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:21.480 back to what you were saying about the play earlier 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:23.719 in the game. We had Zeke and Pollard in the backfield. 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:26.600 One of the biggest complaints I've had about Kelling Moore 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:29.240 from the time he started calling players here is I 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:31.240 think there are too many of those kind of situations 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:34.120 where they'll show you something girling in the game and 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:36.880 to me, it's setting something up, but they never come 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:38.680 back and follow it up, or it doesn't seem like 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:40.560 they come back and follow it up. And you're right, 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:43.000 that would have been a perfect situation or maybe another 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:45.280 situation later in the game where you put those two 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:47.720 guys in the backfield again, it worked perfectly with Zeke 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:52.200 at the fullback position getting the ball, kind of running 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:55.160 into the line and get picking up the yardage. Next time, 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:57.439 maybe pitch it out to Pollard, fag Zeke and then 0:12:57.440 --> 0:12:59.600 pitch out the Pollard. It's just like they didn't follow 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:02.559 up and use what it already worked to the defenses 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:04.840 or to the offense's advantage. And you have to do 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:06.719 those things when you're just not as good, and I 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:10.199 don't think there is good all right, Let's go on 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:14.800 to the second decision that the coach made. This one 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.400 I think most people probably had even a bigger problem 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:21.360 with it. Was the fourth quarter. It was twelve to 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:24.760 twenty one left Washington was up twenty to sixteen, so 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:27.320 the game was still in hand at this point. It 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:31.160 was fourth and ten at the Dallas twenty four. Cowboys 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:34.000 decide they're gonna do a fake punt. Cedric Wilson gets 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:36.880 the ball, He's tackled for a one yard loss. I 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:39.600 think most people believe he was actually setting that up 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:41.720 to be able to throw the pass, was not able 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:44.360 to do it. To the punter and he ends up 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:47.600 with the one yard loss. On the next very next play, 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:51.400 Washington scores on a twenty three yard run by Gibson. 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:55.360 Give me your thoughts on that decision making, because McCarthy says, 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:57.400 based on the things they'd seen a week, they felt 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:00.320 like they had a good opportunity there. They it was 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:02.920 the right decision. He didn't walk back on that. So 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:05.160 what do you think of his decision there to go forward? Ambu, 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:10.559 Let's start with you. Terrible, terrible decision because again you 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:13.280 you go back to saying they were twenty sixteen, The 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:16.520 game wasn't a way. You still had like how much 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:19.200 time left like maybe twelve minutes left in the game 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:22.560 in the so you still have plenty of time to 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:24.520 get back in it. You weren't that far. You were 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:27.840 still in it, So why take a decision like that? 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:31.560 It was terrible. And I went back to look at 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:37.280 the play before the show and how Cedric Wilson. I mean, 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:39.600 he goes back, he takes the ball and take makes 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:43.240 this long ass curve all the way in the backfield. 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:46.480 I'm like, why why are you take why are you 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:50.440 going even further back to go forward? It doesn't. It 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:53.240 didn't make any sense. I mean, the call. The call 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:56.360 was terrible. And it's not like you say, oh man, 0:14:56.480 --> 0:15:00.920 we've seen special teams play amazing this, or we trust them, 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:04.680 we know they can do it. Absolutely not terrible decision. 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:07.080 I don't care what they say. I don't care the 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:11.560 reason behind it. I think you should not have done 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:15.680 that whatsoever. You ended up positioning Washington in a great 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:18.640 field position. They come back and score on you, and 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:24.000 then there goes the game. Nick, I'm gonna play Devil's advocate. 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:29.760 No I can't. No, I can't. Let's hear it. No, 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:33.480 I mean, you can't. It's the I mean, I tweeted, 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:35.560 it's is this the worst play call ever? And you 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:38.000 know I think it is here here here's my take, 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:41.720 um that everything she said is right the time. I mean, 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:45.840 but but I thought that Mike McCarthy came in here 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:49.960 was preaching analytics. That's that's one thing he said from 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:52.440 the start. You know, we were big a proponent of 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:58.000 you know, analytics, Well, analytics is what probability, the probability 0:15:58.080 --> 0:15:59.720 rate that this is going to happen if you go 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:01.800 for to here and all that kind of stuff. So 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:04.720 the probability of fourth and ten giving it to a 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:07.640 backup receiver, let him come around ten yards or as 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:10.480 she said, long ask her to get around to get there. 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:12.560 Make it fourth and twenty. So you can throw it 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:15.960 to the punter like that's the play. That's the probability. 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:17.880 So you can have the ball to thirty five thirty 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:20.360 eight yard line and then keep keep driving. I mean, 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:25.640 punt the ball because the probability. Alex Smith great story, 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:29.120 comeback Player of the Year, tribute to him to come back. 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:31.840 He's still not a good quarterback, and his last throw 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:34.240 was to Jalen Smith, so the probability is that he's 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:36.520 probably gonna make that. If you want to generate a 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:38.480 big play, put it in the hands of Alex Smith. 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:40.480 Put the pressure on and see if Alex Smith can 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:42.000 give you a big play. He already gave you one 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:49.360 that It just makes no sense to me, Okay, yeah, 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:51.200 I don't I don't know. I don't know what else 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:52.960 I can add on top of that. I mean, it's 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:56.120 just like I said, I mean, it's I think the 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:58.200 game gets away from you right after this. They score 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:00.480 on the next possession, and I mean, you can't tell 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:03.680 me you can't tell me that that's not a morale thing. 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:06.480 I mean, you know, the defense wasn't amazing on Thursday, 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:09.200 but they had been playing well. The two possessions prior 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:11.359 to that were a three and out and the interception 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:14.560 by Jalen Smith. You know, like I said, they weren't 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:17.240 playing great, but they weren't surrendering twenty three and thirty 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:21.399 seven yard touchdowns. And that happens on the first play afterward. No, 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:26.360 that's a that is a demoralized defense. That is like, wow, 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:30.200 appreciate you putting in this, putting us in this spot, coach. 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:34.399 And they might not say that, but yeah, again, they 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:36.720 might not say that publicly, but that's what I believe. 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:42.600 Just yeah, and again. I mean, if it's fourth and two, okay, 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:45.280 I'm here. If it's fourth and five, okay, let's let's 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:49.000 let's party. It's fourth and ten, fourth and ten, right 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:51.600 up near your own red zone. You give the ball 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:54.880 to Cedric Wilson ten yards behind the scrim behind the line, 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:57.200 so you got to pick up twenty yards to convert. 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:01.000 He's supposed to throw to the punter, which, by the way, 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:05.280 this ain't Chris Jones or Johnny Hecker like these veteran 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:07.680 punters who have run many fakes in their lives. This 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:10.800 is a guy who's playing in like his third NFL game. 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:14.840 You're putting him in that spot or Cedric is supposed to, 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:17.800 you know, find a secondary read and throw it fifteen 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:20.520 twenty five yards down the field as a wide receiver. Like, 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:23.679 the whole thing was asinine. And I mean the coaches 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:26.639 can defend it all they want to, but it was awful. 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:29.080 And I say that as a guy like I love 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:31.800 fake punts, I love being aggressive. That wasn't aggressive. It 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:34.399 was reckless, and it didn't work and it cost him 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:38.160 the game. What are your thoughts when when the special 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:40.040 team's coach comes out and says it would have worked 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:44.879 earlier in the game, Well, they should have called it 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:49.359 then that right, call it earlier again, It call it 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:51.440 earlier when you see the more favorable Yeah, and when 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:54.000 it doesn't work, I'll put it in my five plays article, like, oh, 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:56.120 I don't forget this play, you know, but don't make 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:58.320 it like the game. You're right, I mean that when 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:01.919 that happened, it was like, yeah, you know, you flip that. 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:05.640 What are they what are they wft? Yeah, flip those 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:09.680 last two because that's exactly what it was. And I'm 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:11.920 sure every one of us got a text message from 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:17.159 someone that said those exact three words. Maybe people that 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:20.359 I don't know that like, just people that I don't 0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:22.760 talk to on a regular basis. You know, it's Thanksgiving, 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:25.840 everybody's watching football, Like people I don't hear from on 0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:28.320 a regular basis. We're texting me like what did I 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:30.880 just watch in your game? Or what am I I'm 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:32.800 trying to figure that out. I'm trying to figure that 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:37.720 out too. Yeah, when I and I've had to talk 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:40.400 about this with people all weekend, I'm sure you could 0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:42.760 probably guys probably have two as you talking to different 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:45.880 family members. My thing is always, look, when you call 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:49.280 something like that, I'm not killing you for making the 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:51.320 call to do it, even though it was a bad decision. 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:53.240 I think I'm not killing you for that part. What 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:55.960 I'm killing you for is you made that decision in 0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:59.040 a bad situation, and you didn't have a play call 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:02.000 that was so great that would overcome that bad situation, 0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:04.240 Like if you can convert something like that, because you 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:07.520 knew we have been working on this one play that 0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:11.040 we knew was gonna be perfect for this situation and 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:14.120 we were able to convert it in those kind of situations. Hey, 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:16.399 it worked out for you. Great. It was still probably 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:19.439 a bad decision, but it worked out for you. So 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:22.160 I'm killing him for the fact that, like you said, Nick, 0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:24.359 when you start factoring in all the things that are 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:27.000 probabilities in this that you're gonna have a wide receiver 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:28.879 who's gonna be able to throw a pass down, feel 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:30.560 that you're gonna have a punter who's in this third 0:20:30.640 --> 0:20:32.280