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Speaker 1: Have you guys ever been to Mount Rushmore? No? No, yes,

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Speaker 1: have you What do you think?

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Speaker 2: I thought it was really cool. I mean I only

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Speaker 2: went to like that one observation area. I didn't like

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Speaker 3: But have you seen the photo of it, like from

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Speaker 3: an aerial view where it doesn't look sad, but it's

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Speaker 3: just four faces on this giant mountain and you just

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Speaker 3: kind of look at it off this It doesn't look

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Speaker 3: that grand at all. It feels like there's plenty of

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Speaker 3: room for more Mount rushmoards. We should start with punchers. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's my.

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Speaker 2: Perspective because where you stand, it's like it's like, oh

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Speaker 2: my god, look at the majesty. But then when you

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Speaker 2: see it from like another view, it's like.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's yeah, I could skal that nose maybe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like.

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Speaker 4: I meansive, I mean they're carved into rock. I mean

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Speaker 4: how can they? How can it not look said it's rock?

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Speaker 2: The way they lighted it's it's pretty cool, And then

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Speaker 2: you realize you're only looking at one little part.

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Speaker 4: I think you have to get it in the right

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Speaker 4: light though, right for it to look really really like

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Speaker 4: there's lights aresh.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, they get professional.

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Speaker 3: Lighting that mountain has more room to be carved, like

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Speaker 3: right on top of that put you know Kobe Lebron,

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Speaker 3: MJ and Schaford.

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Speaker 2: There's there's a Yeah, you could just make different platforms

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Speaker 2: and you could just kind of did you.

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Speaker 4: Go to Mount rushmore like as a trip as a

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Speaker 4: destination or you just happened to be in the area.

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Speaker 1: Of Mount rushboor what for a little visits?

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Speaker 2: So I have been to all fifty states, and when

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Speaker 2: you need a reason to go to South Dakota, what

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Speaker 2: else are you going to do?

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Speaker 1: The Corn Palace? Did you go there?

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Speaker 2: We did not.

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Speaker 3: We crossed a basketball going what'd you do in North Dakota?

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Speaker 2: I was in Fargo and then had a sixteen hour

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Speaker 2: delay for my train, So you didn't go to Africa?

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Speaker 1: You ended up in North Dakota.

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Speaker 2: You were like, right, sixteen hours, it stops being a

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Speaker 2: delay and you're just taking the next one, right, Like

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Speaker 2: sixteen hours is too long? Like you got to get

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Speaker 2: into a night in the hotels.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I get to an airport, my flight is delayed

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Speaker 4: by two hours. I've gone see you airport, hotel smoking weed.

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Speaker 4: I'll be on the first flight out the next morning.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yes, we can't smoke in the hotel. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well you can.

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Speaker 3: So I'm looking at the most boring states in the Union.

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Speaker 3: What did you do in Idaho?

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Speaker 2: Idaho? Cure Delaine, Idaho really right all over the border

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Speaker 2: from Spokane. Nice little like natural lake kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: It was pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: Sounds terrible.

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Speaker 2: A lot of these trips are revolved around baseball and food.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you should have just said that.

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Speaker 5: Wait, so what was the baseball game that got you

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Speaker 5: to Idaho?

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Speaker 2: There was We just had to go to idoms food

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you went to see.

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Speaker 2: Really good chicken and dumplings. I'll send you the place

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Speaker 2: for the next time you were there.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's get to the sports update here on

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Speaker 4: a podcast?

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Speaker 2: Oh were recording?

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Speaker 1: I thought we were just right.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a perfect time in our conversation.

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Speaker 1: Just have some information about sports.

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Speaker 4: Why not come on, stude, I feel like Idaho the

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Speaker 4: conversation dried up right at Ida. Ohio State named second

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Speaker 4: year player Julian say It the starting quarterback. The Dolphins

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Speaker 4: are signing four time Pro bowler Matthew Judan to a

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Speaker 4: one year deal.

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Speaker 1: Did I say that right?

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Speaker 5: Tailor?

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Speaker 2: Or?

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Speaker 1: Is it judit judn I believe all right.

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Speaker 4: And finally, the first arrest for attempted murder in Antarctica

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Speaker 4: was it twenty eighteen with a scientist tried to murder

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Speaker 4: his coworker because he kept revealing to in how his

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Speaker 4: favorite books ended.

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Speaker 2: That's that's that's just the thing to do.

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Speaker 3: That's that quite justified. But I'm also curious the first

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Speaker 3: attempted murder at that arctica was twenty eighteen, so I'm

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Speaker 3: guessing there's not a whole lot of like judges or

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Speaker 1: Like he's gonna get he's gonna have to go back.

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Speaker 4: To the stage, right, Yes, Uh, do you blame the

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Speaker 4: guy for trying to kill a coworker who ruined the

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Speaker 4: endings to all his books?

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and say this. You had other issues?

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Speaker 3: Yes, Probably he had to read all the time because

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Speaker 3: he was an Antarctica and bored out of his mind.

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Speaker 1: Uh so, yeah, all he had was those endings. Though.

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Speaker 6: Yes, if you're reading a book and your coworker next

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Speaker 6: to you is like God dies at the end, you're

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Speaker 6: gonna be like, what the hell is the And it

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Speaker 6: sounds like it was.

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Speaker 2: Multiple books too. Okay, here's my question. Did he do

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Speaker 2: is that the book where the butler did it at

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Speaker 2: the end, or is he like, Hey, you know that

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Speaker 2: book you're reading, butler did it. You're wealth.

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Speaker 3: That's gotta be it, Like, that's gotta be He's got

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Speaker 3: to get his kicks.

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Speaker 1: Off of like ruining it for him. Meanwhile, the other

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Speaker 5: So fast, and he's like, I'm gonna get there before.

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Speaker 1: You can't read too fast for books.

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Speaker 2: I have my fun.

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Speaker 3: And that's why he's really upset, because he's just actually

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Speaker 3: a slow reader and he can't stand it.

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Speaker 1: He's like, God damn it, I hate myself when he

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Speaker 1: kills his fucking What about write a movie about this?

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Speaker 5: Who ju don.

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Speaker 2: Who's biggest potato chip I have?

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Speaker 4: Or or Ohio, stay going with a freshman quarterback because

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Speaker 4: Ryan Day is no longer.

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Speaker 1: On the hot seat.

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Speaker 3: I mean Jesus, the world's largest potato chip was in Idaho.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, looks like a.

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Speaker 1: Springles, not actually potato. I'm well aware.

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Speaker 3: No, it's just a bunch of powder that they just

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Speaker 3: that's why they don't call it a patto chip.

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Speaker 1: It's called a crisp. Really, I think so hm, it's

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Speaker 1: so upset, so disappointed. Yeah, quick ruin his favorite book ending.

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Speaker 5: This is like you just.

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Speaker 1: Ruined my favorite chip. Don't kill me crisp, You ruined

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Speaker 1: your favorite crisp.

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Speaker 3: Pringles are a dough that includes dehydrated potato flakes, rice flour, wheat, starch,

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Speaker 3: and other ingredients. While they contain potato, they are not

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Speaker 1: I'm done with pringles. Stop lying me my whole life.

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Speaker 1: What am I getting my hands stuck in that tube

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Speaker 1: or this afternoon?

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Speaker 4: I promise yous are delightful. I don't care if a

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Speaker 4: bunch of ship mashed up together look like a chip.

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Speaker 3: Now you just got to close your eyes, pitch the nose,

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Speaker 3: and just drink from the can.

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Speaker 1: Make sure none of it falls in those other orifices.

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Speaker 4: Izzy, if you're the Bengals, just like this is so

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Speaker 4: confusing to me.

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Speaker 5: Frey Hendrickson has the most sacks in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: It's pretty important over the last two years, and I

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Speaker 4: think it's by like four or five over TJ.

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Speaker 1: Watt Miles Garrett.

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Speaker 4: Guys like that, and the Bengals clearly are in a

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Speaker 4: super Bowl window.

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Speaker 5: You have Burrow, you have T Higgins, you have Jamar Chase.

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Speaker 4: I think Jamar Chase is gonna have one of the

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Speaker 4: great seasons we've ever seen a wide receiver have this year.

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Speaker 1: He is so good. They're so fun to watch.

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Speaker 4: You have a good running game, you have a good

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Speaker 4: offense as great as it's gonna be overcome what's going

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Speaker 4: to be a lousy defense. Last year they couldn't. They

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Speaker 4: almost knuck into the playoffs. But you have this guy

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Speaker 4: who has thirty four sacks over the last two years.

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Speaker 4: He's thirty one years or thirty years old, same age

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Speaker 4: as I believe Miles Garrett and TJ. Watt, and the

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Speaker 4: Bengals just refuse to play him. It's like, Hey, we

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Speaker 4: had some things to do in the offseason. Let's just

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Speaker 4: T Higgins side check, we got him signed, That got

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Speaker 4: him for undervalue, and then we got to sign the

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Speaker 4: best defensive end in football, just based on.

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Speaker 1: The last two years in his sack numbers?

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Speaker 5: What the fuck are they doing?

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Speaker 3: And if you were like T Higgins, is that just

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Speaker 3: a what was his his contract situation?

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Speaker 5: They just signed him. I believe they franchised him last day.

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Speaker 2: They franchised They they signed both of their wide receivers. Okay,

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Speaker 2: they signed Jamar Chase as well.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't it feel like that's sort of prioritizing the wrong

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Speaker 3: you want to keep T Higgins, but it feels like

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Speaker 3: Hendrickson is the more important piece, especially after losing Hubbard

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Speaker 3: and it also feels like it's you know, they could

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Speaker 2: Doesn't Trey Henderson play essentially the second most important position

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Speaker 1: Huh, punter two, well, and then punter.

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Speaker 3: They can make an argument for you know, blindside tackle, Well.

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Speaker 2: Why do you need a good blind side tackle because

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Speaker 2: you got to have the guy that rushes the poll Listen,

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Speaker 2: but their entire defense, right, it's his Yeah, yes.

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Speaker 5: Well that's the problem.

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Speaker 4: Maybe the Bengals are saying to themselves, why I spend

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Speaker 4: a lot of money on a guy who last year

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Speaker 1: Our defense still wasn't very good, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they might be saying that.

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Speaker 4: To themselves, right, but that's on them for not creating

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Speaker 5: And to Isy's point, hey, you have Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 4: Just about any wide receiver is going to be really,

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Speaker 4: really good if they're playing with Joe Burrow. Now, t

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Speaker 4: Higgins is exceptional, and you know Burrow went to management

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Speaker 4: the feeling that Joe Burrow did the same thing for

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Speaker 4: Trey Hendrickson because Burrow thinks he could be teams forty

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Speaker 4: five to thirty five, you know.

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Speaker 3: And even fans like when you hear public pressure, even

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Speaker 1: T Higgins was kind of a luxury.

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Speaker 4: Yes, all right, let me take this down the path

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Speaker 4: where where I think Taylor wants to take it. He's

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Speaker 1: The sack numbers were not that great.

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Speaker 4: The two years prior to that, they were decent, they

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Speaker 4: and those seventeen and a half sacks, the Bengals had one.

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Speaker 5: Of the worst defenses in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: So what kind of impact is Trey Hendrickson actually making?

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Speaker 4: And if you trade him, you could get some draft picks.

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Speaker 4: Your defense ain't gonna be any worse. I mean, it

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Speaker 2: Last But they're not trading him, that's right, Like.

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Speaker 4: The no, but they they said they, but Mikey hold On,

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Speaker 4: They said they would listen to trades.

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Speaker 1: They did say they would listen.

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Speaker 2: Tore like like last like two days ago.

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Speaker 3: But if indeed what you're saying is true, right, their

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Speaker 3: wouldn't that make him more attractive to another team where

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Speaker 2: Could you imagine the Lions?

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Speaker 4: Well, that's what I'm saying about to me, Trey Hendrickson

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Speaker 4: He has to be like kind of spring into what

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Speaker 5: Next, Yes, with the Lions in Aiden Hudginson, he'd be

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Speaker 1: Amoor Hutchinson and Trey Hendrickson too close. They sound too close.

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Speaker 3: You got to be on different teams, Hutchinson, Hendrickson Taylor teams.

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Speaker 4: I am sensing you don't think the Bengals. I think

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Speaker 6: They definitely have to do something with him, either sign

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Speaker 6: And if you're committing, you know, sixteen seventeen million dollars

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Speaker 6: lot more pieces than just an edge rusher, no matter

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Speaker 6: being like, hey, forty five to forty, that's how we're

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Speaker 4: They gave up twenty six points a game last year.

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Speaker 4: So what if you're looking at those guys in practice

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Speaker 1: Wow, we nailed it on this pick.

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Speaker 4: Now it's the Bengals, so you have to to wonder

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Speaker 2: The only thing the Bengals can't do is exactly what

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Speaker 2: And the way we're going to do that is the

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Speaker 2: and go we're gonna go all in on this offense

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Speaker 3: If the hang up is this, if the hangup is

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Speaker 3: and he's saying, don't do that to me.

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Speaker 1: I'm your best defensive player. Sign me to that guaranteed money. Right.

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Speaker 4: Who's the team, Mike Ya that if Trey Hendrickson was

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Speaker 2: Lions, I mean the Packers. Yeah, put him on the Packers. Washington, Oh,

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Speaker 2: that's good too. I mean he's a difference maker, just

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Speaker 4: Are saying, like, alrighty at seventeen and a half, leave

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Speaker 5: We still have a twenty seven points a game.

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Speaker 6: I think when you're looking for the trade partner too,

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Speaker 6: So when you're looking at teams with cap space. The

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Speaker 6: if you put somebody like Trey Hendrickson in Mike Rabels defense,

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Speaker 6: So I think there is a balance of teams that

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Speaker 3: I'm still pissed off at the Patriots are already being

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Speaker 3: Dolphins could get fucking good, Like I'm sorry. That just

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Speaker 3: pissed me the hell off, Like, give me a second, please.

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Speaker 2: Jets have made the playoffs in fourteen years.

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Speaker 3: I know, like I know what this feels like now,

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Speaker 4: Is gonna be this time. The Patriots have been good

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Speaker 3: I feel like Dolphins fans and Jets fans just need

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Speaker 1: I think we can say.

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Speaker 4: That if you can bind the Dolphins and the Jets roster,

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Speaker 3: How many Zach Wilson's do you have no your question, No,

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Speaker 3: they don't have a back. Can the Jets with any

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: If you were, if you are combining those two rosters,

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Speaker 3: you're taking Aaron Glann as the coach, right, even though

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Speaker 3: you have no idea if he can coach.

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Speaker 5: The last time he coached, he gave up forty five points.

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Speaker 1: But Mike McDaniel.

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Speaker 5: But let's do it this way and this hypothetical that

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Speaker 5: I call August.

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Speaker 1: Okay, if you if you could.

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Speaker 4: Bind the Jets and the Chiefs, but you had to

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Speaker 4: you okay, if the Chiefs would want this, but.

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Speaker 5: You had to start at least five players.

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Speaker 1: From the New York Jets. Do the Chiefs still would

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Speaker 4: I think you could do it, really, because Sauce Gardner

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Speaker 4: to stretch it out to where no one has a chance?

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Speaker 5: If they have to start X amount of Jet players

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