1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: Hold up every day up waiting clicks up the Breakfast Club. 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 2: You all finish for y'all done? 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 3: Morning, everybody in stej Envy Jess, hilarious, Charlamagne, the gud 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 3: We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 3: in the building. 6 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: Yes, indeed we having Nicole Bell. 7 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 3: Welcome, Good morning. Are you feeling this morning? 8 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 4: I'm feeling great, glad to be here. 9 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 10 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: We got a new movie after Shocked and the Cold 11 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: Pete Bell Story. What you're being in theaters November twenty 12 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: eight When you decided to tell this story through film? 13 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: What truth did you feel America still didn't understand about 14 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: what happened? 15 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 4: I think America doesn't understand what the families really go 16 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 4: through behind the scenes. For me, I was twenty two 17 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 4: years old, Sean was only twenty three when he was killed, 18 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 4: and we had two small daughters. My daughters at the 19 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 4: time were baby girls. So going through the years of 20 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 4: fighting for justice the levels of government, state trial, federal investigation, 21 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 4: our mental hearings, civil and then reforms. Fighting for reforms 22 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 4: that takes a toll. And as a twenty two year 23 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 4: old young woman surrounded by the nation who supported us, 24 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 4: my family, the community it was. That's what really empowered 25 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 4: me to move forward. And what I think a lot 26 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 4: of people need to understand is that many people want 27 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 4: to tell their stories. People want their stories heard, and 28 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 4: we don't really know how what outlet. But I'm blessed 29 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 4: to get a chance to meet people like Manny and 30 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 4: give us the opportunity to put this real life story 31 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 4: now on screens for people to see and see what 32 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 4: really happened behind the scenes. 33 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 3: If you don't mind, I want to go back a 34 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 3: little bit. Yeah, if you don't mind. And the reason 35 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 3: being is after watching a movie. I'm from Queens, so 36 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,639 Speaker 3: you lived it, but you just forget, right with everything 37 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 3: going on in the world, you forget the ends, the 38 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 3: outs and the details and you just assume right like 39 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 3: I'm not even gonna lie. I forgot the cops gotta 40 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 3: quit it like you. You forget so many things. 41 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: So, hello, it's been over twenty years, so. 42 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 4: This year, this tomorrow makes nineteen years. 43 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 3: So for people that don't know the Sean Bell story, 44 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 3: just break it down a little bit. You guys were 45 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 3: high school sweethearts. Yeah, you were about to get married, 46 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 3: and I'll let you go. 47 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 4: From so yes, So Shawn and I both went to 48 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 4: John Adams High School in Ozone Park, Queens. We're from 49 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 4: Queen's South Side, Jamaica, Queens, so we met there. Sean 50 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 4: played baseball, we met, we dated just like everyone else. 51 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 4: After school, Sean went on too Nashville Community College. He 52 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 4: played baseball for a little there. When I graduated, we 53 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 4: kind of went straight into building a family. I was 54 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 4: a young mom and after the birth of my second daughter, 55 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 4: Sean had surprised me with a ring and it was 56 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 4: Christmas Day, all the family, we were all together sitting 57 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 4: by the tree. He had a yeah, giving me a shoebox, right, 58 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 4: and I thought, oh, it was another pair of shoes 59 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 4: because he had bought me shoes before. I didn't really 60 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 4: like the shoes that he bought me last time, but 61 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 4: he bought me these shoes and I was like, Okay, 62 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 4: we got another pair of shoes coming. I opened up 63 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 4: the shoebox. Inside the shoe box was a watchbox. I 64 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 4: was like, Oh, surprise, I got to watch open up 65 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 4: the watchbox. In the watchbox was a ring box. And 66 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 4: that was the day that, you know, we decided to 67 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 4: get married. So we hadn't made any plans, maybe about 68 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 4: a year or so it had passed, and then at 69 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 4: that point our daughters were Jada was three and a 70 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 4: half almost four, and Jordan was just born, so she 71 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 4: was about five months old. So sometime in November of 72 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 4: six early November, he had sat me down. He's like 73 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 4: the one day he came home, He's like, hey, come, 74 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 4: let's sit down and talk. We were living in far 75 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 4: Rockaway at the time, and I was kind of nervous, 76 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 4: not sure what he wanted to talk about, because he 77 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 4: wasn't to come sit down and talk to me, the 78 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 4: type of person it was just like he would say 79 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 4: what it is. But he had talked to his mom, 80 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 4: he had talked to my mom, he had talked to 81 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 4: the pastors, and he had planned the wedding. My best 82 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 4: friends knew, and I was just shocked that I didn't know. No, 83 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 4: I hadn't find out, you know. I was kind of 84 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 4: feeling like, how could y'all keep this secret for me? 85 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 2: That's one of the most stressful things ever planning a wed. 86 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 4: What And he had it, he had the church, he 87 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 4: had The only thing he couldn't do was get my dress. 88 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 4: And that's what my best friend told me. His mother 89 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 4: told me, like it was like, you cannot buy her 90 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 4: dress for her, y'all. He gotta let her pick out 91 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 4: our dress. So that time, that point in my life, 92 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 4: it was really the happiest point in my life. And 93 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 4: it was two weeks before the due date. So we 94 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 4: had celebrated November twenty third as our anniversary, and he 95 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,119 Speaker 4: was like, we're gonna do it on the twenty fifth. 96 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 4: It was the weekend. The family's gonna fly in. I mean, 97 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 4: they had everything together and I went then. So the 98 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 4: the eve of the twenty fourth, I went for my 99 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 4: bachelorette party my mom's house. We did like a little 100 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 4: small intimate bridal shower, and then he went out with 101 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 4: some of the guys from the neighborhood. My brother in 102 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 4: law was there and his father muse them. And at 103 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 4: some point during the night I got a call it 104 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 4: was early morning, like four am at this point on 105 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 4: the wedding day, that something happened and we needed to 106 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 4: get to the hospital. 107 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 3: Now when that happened, breakdown because the police tried to lie. Right, 108 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 3: It was so many different stories, and like I said, 109 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 3: after watching the movie, you go down this rabbit hole 110 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 3: of google, right, and then you start remembering all the 111 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 3: lies that they did and just trying to break his 112 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 3: character and all that without going too much because some 113 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 3: of it's in the movie, some of it's not breakdown 114 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 3: how the family took that, because, hey, you got a 115 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 3: young man that did everything right. He went to school, 116 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 3: he got his degree, he was working, he had a 117 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 3: couple of jobs. But now you got the city or 118 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 3: the police officers trying to break his spirit. How did 119 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 3: the family feel during that time? 120 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 4: It was devastating. It was devastating for his parents. It 121 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 4: was devastating for me. I had to kind of like 122 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 4: isolate myself from like things like social media and I 123 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 4: couldn't read the comments things like that. It was just 124 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 4: kind of getting out of hand. But it was completely 125 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 4: devastating because we were like just in shock, you know, 126 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 4: and a lot of pain mentally. And then there were 127 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 4: stories coming out like the fourth Man. There's a fourth Man. 128 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 4: They came out right away with that one, and then 129 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 4: it disappeared right away. It went away, and there was 130 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 4: just a whole smear campaign. And I had come to 131 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 4: find out just by my attorneys and the leaders like 132 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 4: Reverend Sharpton and people who are around me, like this 133 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 4: is what happens when and some people are killed by 134 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 4: police officers every day, which is. 135 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 3: Crazy because you couldn't even grieve. I'm sitting there and 136 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 3: you trying to grieve. You have these young kids, but 137 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 3: then you're trying to protect the name, and it's like, 138 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 3: could you even grieve during that time? 139 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 4: So I went straight into getting active and so the 140 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 4: next day we went to a rally. Day after that, 141 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 4: you know, we did a march, and then after the funeral, 142 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 4: it was just like, now it's time to you know, 143 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 4: let people know, shine of light on exactly what's happening. 144 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 4: So no, grieving didn't happen right away, and I would 145 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 4: go home and cry, you know, I'd come out and 146 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 4: you know, make it, you know, look as good as 147 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 4: it needs to be. But behind the scenes, I was 148 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 4: a mess, you know, I was a wreck. And my 149 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 4: family really formed like this barrier around me to protect 150 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 4: me and help me with the girls. They were so young, 151 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 4: and that was really that was the whole program. From 152 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 4: that point on. Everywhere I went, I was kind of 153 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 4: surrounded by somebody who was from the family or someone 154 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 4: who was there to kind of you know, act as like, 155 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 4: all right, if I have to step in and help 156 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 4: you know we're going to do that. But I tell 157 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 4: people all the time, you know, like there's no specific 158 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 4: order in which you grieve. You know. For me, going 159 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 4: through this film and also working on a book, it 160 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 4: brings back every thought, every memory. There's been times when 161 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 4: even recently, I've lost sleep and I had to get 162 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 4: back into therapy, you know and speak to a therapist. 163 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 4: But I'm so grieving. I mean, you got to grieve 164 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 4: and keep it moving, and that's really what That's what 165 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 4: it was about back then. 166 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: How did your understanding of grief change over the years, 167 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: Like once the cameras disappeared and life just kept moving. 168 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so you know it's like we're living this, 169 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,679 Speaker 4: you know, once the cameras leave and the smoke clears, 170 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 4: this is still my life. This is still and I 171 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 4: still have to find a way to take care of 172 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 4: my daughters. I still have to find a way to work. 173 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 4: I still have to find a way to you know, 174 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 4: keep his memory alive and do all these things at 175 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 4: the same time. So, I mean my understanding of it was, 176 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 4: you know, we just got to keep it moving. I 177 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 4: have to keep going forward, Like I don't know where 178 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 4: this is going, but I know I'm going to keep 179 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 4: pushing forward, and I know eventually we'll get somewhere. And 180 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 4: that's all it was for me, just keep going, like 181 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 4: I can't think about what's going to happen next month, 182 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 4: but I'm going to take it one day at a time. 183 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 4: And that's really what it's about. It's just pushing forward. 184 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: What's something people assume gets easier with time but actually 185 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: becomes more difficult. 186 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 4: I think even this, you know, this conversation here, Yeah, 187 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 4: I think people think you know that, Hey, you know, 188 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 4: maybe you're far removed from it by now, but it's 189 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 4: it's an ongoing thing. Like I just recently, I was 190 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 4: on the phone with my therapist just bawling, you know, 191 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 4: like you know, we everyone you know thinks of this 192 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 4: whole term, like you know, being strong, and you know, 193 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 4: but there's so many ways to look at, you know, 194 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 4: how what that means, and so we get blinded by it, 195 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 4: like I have to be strong. I have to be strong, 196 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 4: But strong is like just one day. Strong might be 197 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 4: just getting out of bed one day. The next day, 198 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 4: strong might be sitting here on a radio station. It 199 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 4: looks different, and to me, that's the way I identify 200 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 4: what like moving forward is and how grief works. There's 201 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 4: no specific order in which that happens and how it comes. 202 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 4: So I mean, and then my daughters, you know, I 203 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 4: can't be far removed from it because my girls are 204 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 4: every day, you know, a part of him. And my 205 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 4: daughters they deal with it in different ways, you know, 206 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 4: from when they were younger, and you know. 207 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 3: Till now. Now, how was that raising those young queens 208 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 3: because I remember when it happened, right, my dad, who 209 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 3: was a retired police officer, did not want me out, right, 210 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 3: he already didn't want me out. Yeah, you know, it 211 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 3: was always like you got to come home, you got 212 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 3: to drive, and the streets during that time was real dangerous. 213 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 3: So I could imagine the anxiety of every day your 214 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 3: daughter just wanting to leave, to go anywhere. So how 215 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 3: was that? 216 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 4: Absolutely? I mean, there were talks that you know, if 217 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 4: there's ever you know, if you're ever approached, you know 218 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 4: by a police officer, like remain calm, just you know, 219 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 4: let me handle that. You know, you get as much 220 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 4: information as you can and let me handle that. But 221 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 4: it was terrifying for one, but not just for them, 222 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 4: you know, for for anyone I loved, you know, I 223 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 4: was worried about my dad. I was worried about you know, 224 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 4: my brother in laws, the men in my life. You know, 225 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 4: just not sure about what's going to happen. But it 226 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 4: was bad back then, and people who supported us were targeted, 227 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 4: you know after, you know, for supporting us. I learned 228 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 4: that from you know, elected officials. I learned that from 229 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 4: artists who support us. And it was bad. It was 230 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 4: really bad, and that was so important. That's why it 231 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 4: was so important for me to show people the human side, 232 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 4: like this is who we are, this is who he was, 233 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 4: and this is the family and that's still what it 234 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 4: is even till this day. 235 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: Let's stay there for saying, what parts of Sean's life 236 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: and character did you want this film to reclaim from 237 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: like all the media natives. 238 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 4: So I need people just to know that, you know, 239 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 4: Sean was just like you know you and you dj 240 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 4: envy like. He was a person who like loved his woman, 241 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 4: he loved his family, he loved his mom, his dad. 242 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 4: He wasn't a person who had many close friends. The 243 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 4: friends that he was very selective about who he considered 244 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 4: his friends and the ones who were you know, his friends. 245 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 4: He would take care of him on his bachelor party night. 246 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 4: He was driving his friends, like he was driving the 247 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 4: guys from the neighborhood in my car. So this is 248 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 4: who Sean was. He wasn't you know, a person that's like, 249 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 4: you know, just not you know, or I guess what 250 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 4: the narrative was being pushed out at some points. If 251 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 4: it wasn't for the family, and if it wasn't for 252 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 4: like the advocates and everyone who stood up, like, I 253 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 4: don't know what the image would have been. But for us, 254 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 4: it was important to just show people who he was, like, 255 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 4: this is who he is. He worked, he had jobs, 256 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 4: you know, he he loved to surprise me, like he 257 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 4: had planned a surprise wedding all by himself and pulled 258 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 4: in the family. He this is who he was. This 259 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 4: was the guy was, And it was just made into 260 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 4: this big, you know thing because there were fifty shots 261 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 4: fired by the police officers. That's really at the bottom line, 262 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 4: that's what it was. It was the fifty shots that 263 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 4: were fired by the police officers on our wedding day, 264 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 4: and that was how big it was. That was that 265 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 4: was what made it like sensationalized. But Sean was just 266 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 4: like you and me, Like he was just like any 267 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 4: other person. There was nothing any different, and he was 268 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 4: human like, he was a human. He wasn't just a hashtag. 269 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 4: He wasn't just a name. You know. That's you know, 270 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 4: it's not just a headline. It's a family behind us, 271 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 4: and it's a family was grieving. 272 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 2: What made you come up with the title after Shock? 273 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 4: That's production. I don't think. I didn't really care about it. 274 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just found it interesting, Like you know what, 275 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: I want to know, why was it important for you 276 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: to tell that story, like the years long impact of 277 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: the trauma, because I think that's something that people don't 278 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 1: think about. 279 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, well that that itself, Absolutely, that is a thing. 280 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 4: And that was part of the reason why I wanted 281 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 4: to push forward with the project is because I think 282 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 4: the movie shows a timeframe of like six to twenty 283 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 4: twenty one, and that's a huge part of my life, 284 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 4: you know, And it's it's almost two decades that we're 285 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 4: talking about of trying to keep his memory alive. But 286 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 4: these families are going through every day, Like there's so 287 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 4: many families like mine, and I know them, and I 288 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 4: just hope that this project will like encourage other families 289 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 4: to tell your stories. There's other ways that we can 290 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 4: get the word out. There's other ways that we can 291 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 4: show people, like we didn't receive the justice that we 292 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 4: were looking for, and really, accountability would have been that 293 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 4: in this case, I mean, justice would have been him 294 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 4: still being here. But accountability is what we were looking for. 295 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 4: So this is us holding them accountable. 296 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 3: I wanted to know, like when they were when they 297 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 3: were acquitted, did any of those officers apologize? 298 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 4: There was a public statement that was issued, It wasn't 299 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 4: really directed towards me in the during the court room. 300 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 4: It was very like blatant that you know, they weren't 301 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 4: willing to apologize. After they were acquitted, there was like 302 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 4: a public statement at their press conference, but that was it. 303 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 4: It was nothing personal. 304 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 3: Do we know what happened to those officers? Did they 305 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 3: lose their jobs? Do we know did they get shipped 306 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 3: to another precinct? Do we know at all or not? 307 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 4: So? The the officer who followed who fired their initial shots, 308 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 4: he was terminated. The rest of them, I believe they 309 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 4: were allowed to retire with benefits. 310 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 2: Wow. 311 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I don't know where their life is at 312 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 4: this point, and you know, really I just hope that 313 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 4: they understand, like the weight of what they left behind 314 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 4: and what their actions did that night, and how generally, generationally, 315 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 4: how that affects not just me, not just mister and 316 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 4: missus Bell, but where now, you know, raising my kids 317 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 4: in that and I'm just My goal was to make 318 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 4: them strong, make them normal, normal girls you know who 319 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 4: can blend in. And I'm blessed to be able to 320 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 4: say that's the case today. You know, my oldest daughter, 321 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 4: she's like doing her thing, working and has her own apartment. 322 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 4: Jordan's at Howard University, and they're just independent young women 323 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 4: and I'm so proud. They're like my best friends. They 324 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 4: keep me strong when I feel weak, and vice versa. 325 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 3: One one about the cops, Yeah, I remember one thing 326 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 3: that bothered especially the community and queens, was that when 327 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 3: it first happened, people automatically thought there was going to 328 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 3: be a bunch of white cops and it was racist. 329 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 3: That was a bunch of it was I think one 330 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 3: white cop, and it was minorities. How did that feel, 331 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 3: because you know, you really want to feel like at 332 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 3: least somebody that looks like me understands, right, How did 333 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 3: that feel during that time? And was that a thing 334 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 3: back then? 335 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 4: And yeah, that was insane, and I think I even 336 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 4: heard that. You know, people like, well they how did 337 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 4: you know it was cops? They were you know, they 338 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 4: were white. Like okay, guys, y'all got to pay attention 339 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 4: to read the story. This is not that's not what happened. 340 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 4: Because growing up in South Jamaica, queens like you know 341 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 4: about stopping first. You see that, You see detectives jumping 342 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 4: out on people. You see you know, the marked cars. 343 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 4: You know what the culture was back then, So we're 344 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 4: all aware of it. We're hyper. Like when he arrived 345 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 4: at the bachelor party, he was pulled over by blue 346 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 4: and white, a marked car. He wasn't even given the ticket. 347 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 4: I found out this information during the trial. I didn't 348 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 4: even know that. So when he was parking to get 349 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 4: to the bachelor party, he was pulled over, they didn't 350 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 4: even give him a ticket. They sai already have a 351 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 4: good day. Why'd you stop him? When he was leaving, 352 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 4: he was encountered by the cop who was at the 353 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 4: club under you know, investigating the club. So it was 354 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 4: just the community in itself was policed in a way 355 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 4: that just wasn't there to protect, you know, the people 356 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 4: who are from the neighborhood. The people who live here, like, 357 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 4: we go to school here, we work our jobs here 358 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 4: in the neighborhood was shot up. There were homes that 359 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 4: were shot you know, fifty one went into the air 360 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 4: train above Edja Maka station and nobody was held accountable 361 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 4: for that. And that's really part of the reason that 362 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 4: fuels me because with all that devastation, what was the outcome? 363 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 4: And you know, and I don't know what's going to 364 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 4: come next, but all I know is, you know, just 365 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 4: this is the same message we're going to keep pushing forward. 366 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 4: There are so many victims who need to be encouraged 367 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 4: to tell their stories, and they want to be encouraged 368 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 4: to tell their stories. They don't they're not sure how. 369 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 4: And I just hope that, you know, this project makes 370 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 4: everybody proud. 371 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: And I want to go back to your daughters, like, 372 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: how did you protect your daughter's emotional world while the 373 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: country was just discussing your family is just a political case. 374 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, because they were watching Disney and Nickelodeon. They were 375 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 4: doing what kids do. They were going to dance school, 376 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 4: they were you know, playing sports. They were not involved 377 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 4: in that. And when they were small, I would take 378 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:56,479 Speaker 4: them to the rallies and stuff. But once they were 379 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 4: old enough to kind of articulate what's going on, you know, 380 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 4: wouldn't make sure they were either were grandma or they 381 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 4: were you know, busy doing something else, and just kept 382 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 4: them focused on what do you want to do? Like, 383 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 4: what do you what do you want to become? We're 384 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 4: going to make you the you know, the best. You know, 385 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 4: whatever it is you want to do, hair you want 386 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 4: to do, make it, whatever it is you want to 387 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 4: become a lawyer, You're going to be the best at it. 388 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 4: And I think that's where my with my girls, it 389 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 4: was just important that I keep them normal, like, you know, 390 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 4: don't I don't read the comments, so I'm not going 391 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 4: to introduce them, you know what. 392 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: About because when the movie comes out, yeah, you know, 393 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: start that whole conversation all over the world. 394 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 4: So we we we do a lot in private. You know, 395 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 4: we we are very tight. We are very close. My 396 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 4: girls are very close to his parents. We we keep it, 397 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 4: you know, really tight. So we've watched it together in private, 398 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 4: and my girls had a lot of questions and there 399 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 4: were things that they didn't even know that after watching it, 400 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 4: you know, I'll get calls like, hey, mom, what did 401 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 4: this mean? You know what was that about? And I 402 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 4: can you know, just remember being twenty two and losing 403 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 4: him and thinking like, oh my god, how am I 404 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 4: gonna explain this to them? One day? And the one 405 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 4: day is here and now I'm here and we're having 406 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 4: these deep conversations. But now I'm ready to have the 407 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 4: conversations because if I had tried to do this nineteen 408 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,959 Speaker 4: years ago, I don't think I would have made it. 409 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 2: You didn't You didn't even have an understanding of it. 410 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 4: Absolutely, I did not have an understanding of it. Now, 411 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 4: even though the grief, you know, is still there and 412 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 4: I'm working with a therapist and you know, we're dealing 413 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 4: with the reality of it. It is. It's just a 414 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 4: matter of it being like a story that is important 415 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 4: to our culture. It's important to our history. And long 416 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 4: after I'm gone, after shock is going to be here. 417 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 4: And that's what my goal is, just to create something 418 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 4: that will last. And you know, we can, you know, 419 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,479 Speaker 4: we can hope that you know, this will make history. 420 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 3: Who stood up for you back then? You know, we've 421 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 3: seen River now and we heard about jay Z who 422 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 3: stood up for the community back then when you needed 423 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 3: it the most right. You support people, you support local 424 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 3: people who stood up for you during that time. Anybody. 425 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 4: I mean during that time, there was like you said, 426 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 4: Rever Now, there was a lot of people at NAN. 427 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:25,239 Speaker 4: National Action Network was a big deal everyone you know, 428 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 4: in my community, there were a lot of elect every 429 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 4: elected official you could think of, like some of my 430 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 4: friends now who are now in politics, like the Queensborough 431 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 4: President Donovan Richards and people like Timika Mallory from Nan. Yeah, 432 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 4: and these are the people now, right, who are who've 433 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 4: come from that Sean Bell era and who marched like 434 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 4: under Reverend now Sharpton, and now they're the leaders of 435 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 4: the time and saying, hey, this is what we need 436 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 4: to do because this is what happened in the past. 437 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 4: So those are some of the people, I mean even 438 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 4: right now, like Angela Ride that's my girl. I text 439 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 4: Angela right now and she'll give me some you know, 440 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 4: great advice, or like hey, Nicole, you need to check this. 441 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 4: You know my attorney, you know, like female black female attorneys. 442 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 4: I'm surrounded by wonderful people that I can call when 443 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 4: I'm in need. And I think back then it was 444 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 4: the same. You know, there wasn't much of the female presence. 445 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 4: It was more of like the politicians. It was like 446 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 4: the revenue Sharpton. But I think everyone recognized that. That's 447 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 4: that's why you've had like the Mother's movement who came out. 448 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 4: Everyone recognized that, right, Sabrina Fulton and Gwen Carr, Eric 449 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 4: Gardner's mother, like the movements that came from it, because 450 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,239 Speaker 4: it was more of like, this is a political thing, 451 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 4: and it's like, oh, how is it political? You know, 452 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 4: we're not politicians, but you know, because of the you know, 453 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 4: the police officers, they deemed it as political. But I 454 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 4: think the most magnificent thing of that is that all 455 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 4: of the lives that were affected back then and all 456 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 4: the greatness that came from it, all of everyone whose 457 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 4: lives were affected said, hey, you know, because of what 458 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 4: happened to Sean, that's the reason why I became this 459 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 4: And that means a lot to me. 460 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 2: That means JZ did start a trust fund. 461 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 4: Right he did? Yes? He did? Yeah? Yeah, college fund 462 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 4: for my girls. 463 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 2: Wow? 464 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 4: Yeah that was that was back in eight Yeah. 465 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 466 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: Is there a moment public are private that best represents 467 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: the emotional aftershock of losing Sean? 468 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:42,719 Speaker 4: Public or private? I think that first ever march that 469 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 4: happened in six down Fifth Avenue, it was massive, right, 470 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 4: I didn't even know the gravity of how many people 471 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 4: were affected by it. I thought it was just us. 472 00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 4: And then that first ever march that I attended down 473 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 4: Fifth Avenue, it was crazy. I mean, we were ending 474 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 4: the march miles down and we could see all the 475 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 4: way back the streets were filled with people. People were outraged. 476 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 4: They were outraged like it was their family member. And 477 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 4: I think that's what moved me to say, oh wow, 478 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 4: I'm not alone here. I felt like I was on 479 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 4: the island, like there was no one who could ever 480 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 4: relate to what I had gone through losing him on 481 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 4: my wedding day in that way. But even though you know, 482 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 4: these people didn't lose him that way, everyone was affected, 483 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 4: everyone was outraged, and then still there was no justice. 484 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 4: And I think that's also a part that defines, you know, 485 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 4: what we're dealing with here, is that no matter how 486 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 4: the amount of people, the amount of outrage, the the 487 00:24:55,320 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 4: amount of shots, there was still no conviction there. You know, 488 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 4: what are we going to do with that? 489 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 3: You believe in the system. After that, I lost. 490 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 4: My faith in the system. After I'm gonna be honest 491 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 4: with you, I really did. And now you see family 492 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 4: since then who've gone through similar things, and it's the 493 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 4: steps that we have to take as family members, and 494 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 4: you got to go through these measures just to get somewhere. 495 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 4: And it's just like we're walking down the same line. 496 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 4: Everyone's walking down the same line looking for a different outcome. 497 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 4: And listen, you know, I sat back and kind of watched, 498 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 4: you know, families go through this. It's painful for everyone 499 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 4: to think, you know, okay, this is it, this is 500 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 4: the time, and then it's the same outcome. We're just 501 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 4: watching this whole thing just over and over, just like 502 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 4: a vicious cycle. And for me, I mean, Zora Neil 503 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 4: Hurston said, if you don't talk about your pain, they'll 504 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,959 Speaker 4: kill you and think and say you enjoyed it. And 505 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 4: that's what aftershock is about. We're talking about our pain 506 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,479 Speaker 4: here and this so many people who are in pain, 507 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 4: and people who down the line in future might be 508 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 4: in pain. But this is the story for all of us. 509 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: How did advocating for justice reshape your identity as a woman, 510 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: a mother. 511 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 2: And a leader? 512 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 4: How did advocating for justice so I feel that it 513 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 4: empowered me? It defined you know who I am. It 514 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 4: really helps kind of give me that strength to push 515 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 4: me forward. I learned a lot about myself. I learned 516 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 4: a lot about our community. But advocacy, it's just a 517 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 4: never ending thing. It's not something that you can do 518 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 4: and turn it off. You know. There's always something to 519 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 4: advocate for it, There's always something that needs change. So 520 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 4: I feel that the advocacy in itself, it kind of 521 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 4: defined me as a woman, and it made me feel 522 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 4: really like badass. 523 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 3: Really, yeah, I was gonna say, what message did you 524 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 3: want to say into the world by forgiven the police 525 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 3: officers that shot or did you even forgive me? 526 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 4: I was going to actually would you read that? I 527 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 4: was gonna, actually, where did you see that? So I 528 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 4: don't think I've reached that place because I was there 529 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 4: and I've witnessed them in real time how they felt 530 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 4: and like during the trial, how they would pass notes 531 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 4: and make jokes. This was like almost like a board game, 532 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 4: you know, and we were devastated, you know, And it 533 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 4: takes a lot to say I am forgiven. I have 534 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 4: to keep it real with y'all, and I have to 535 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 4: I have to always keep it real. I haven't forgave. 536 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 4: I can say I'm at peace, but no, I haven't forgiven. 537 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 3: I'm not a forgiving person either. Certain things I just 538 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 3: don't understand. And he tried to talk to but it's 539 00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 3: just certain things I just can't forgive. And yeah, is 540 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 3: what it is. 541 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 4: If I had maybe that point in life, if I 542 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 4: had maybe picked up a hint of remorse somewhere maybe, 543 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 4: but I didn't, So I can't put that on them 544 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 4: if that's not how they feel. And that's okay, because 545 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 4: you know, I'll find my way and my girls will 546 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 4: be We're gonna you know, we're gonna make it. We're 547 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 4: gonna be strong. We're gonna support his mom, we're gonna 548 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 4: support his dad. Like where we're going to be. You know, 549 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 4: we're gonna be okay. But as far as forgiveness, now, 550 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 4: my therapist. 551 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: Told me last week, you know, if somebody has done 552 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: you wrong and you feel like they've harmed you, it 553 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: is perfectly healthy to say fuck them. 554 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 4: And that's it. 555 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 3: I love that therapist. No, that's how I feel. 556 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 2: That's that's an emotion, that's your feeling. 557 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: Who is who are you now compared to who you 558 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: were before? November twenty fIF thousand. 559 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 4: Oh man, who am I now compared to her? I mean, 560 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 4: right now, it's wow. I mean I don't know if 561 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 4: I can find the words for it, but I think 562 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 4: there's really I feel unstoppable. I'm gonna be honest with you. 563 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 4: I feel like this is something that has prepared me 564 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 4: for a life I never had planned. I was just 565 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,239 Speaker 4: looking forward to getting married to Sean, and you know, 566 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 4: the love that we have for each other, the love 567 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 4: he had for our girls, that's really what fueled me. 568 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,959 Speaker 4: And when they took that from me, it was it 569 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 4: was extremely personal, you know that they did this, and 570 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 4: it kind of made me look at you know, life differently, 571 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 4: Absolutely look at life differently, cherishing you know, our loved ones, 572 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 4: loving on everybody around you, appreciating life Like I'm not 573 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 4: a person who complains a lot. I'm not a person 574 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 4: who takes things for granted. I find the greatness and 575 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 4: everything and losing Sean, the struggle that we had, all 576 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 4: of that has made me this person. 577 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 3: Now, why and when did you decide to do this movie? Like? 578 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 3: What was the thing that like? It's time now? 579 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,719 Speaker 4: So I met Manny Hally back in twenty seventeen, and 580 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 4: I had a conversation with him that he had, my 581 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 4: mom was with me. Let me for wind a little bit, 582 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 4: So my mom was with me. My mom was like, 583 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 4: you know, she's my biggest champion. So she was like, okay, 584 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 4: is this the director? 585 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: Oh? 586 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 4: Hey, you ever thought about doing a movie about Nicole? 587 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 4: A movie about Sean? We went to a premiere when 588 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 4: of his premiere. Sorry I forgot to leave that got 589 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 4: to say that. So we met Manny. My mom was like, 590 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 4: you know, on him, like, hey, you know, you ever 591 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 4: thought about doing this? And was like you know, maybe 592 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 4: you know, I don't think he really knew who we 593 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 4: were or whatever. But down the line we had more conversations. 594 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 4: We talked a little bit more, and then production kind 595 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 4: of came up with an idea of like, okay, how 596 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 4: can we do this. Let's figure out how to the 597 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 4: best way to make this happen. For me, it was 598 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 4: always about telling the story. You know, I don't know 599 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 4: about the creativity side of it. That's not I'm not 600 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 4: in entertainment, that's not my field. But I have a 601 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 4: story and it's a story that affected a lot of people, 602 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 4: and it's a story that's going to change lives. And 603 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 4: if there's a way that we can get this out there. 604 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 4: Let's do it. So as far as a timeframe, I 605 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 4: feel like the best time is now, not only because 606 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 4: of what we're going through in the community, but just 607 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 4: because me personally mentally, I wasn't in a space to 608 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 4: be able to make a movie. Years ago. I was 609 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 4: raising two little girls, I was mourning, going through depression PTSD. 610 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 4: I couldn't do a movie. How could I find the time? 611 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 4: So now it's been almost twenty years, I'm able to 612 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 4: talk about this without the tears. I'm able to, you know, 613 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 4: find the therapy. I'm able to talk to my girls 614 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 4: and mentor them and their independent women exactly. You know 615 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 4: what I pray for. Now's the time. It's no better 616 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 4: time than do it right now. 617 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 2: Were you overly critical of who played y'all? 618 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 4: I would think I was more overly critical of who 619 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 4: plays Sean as opposed to who played me. To me, 620 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 4: that was really more important. But what was the pause? 621 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 3: Didn't want to get in trouble? Why? 622 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 2: Why is sewn in. 623 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 4: Particular because he's not here to speak for himself, so 624 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 4: we gotta we gotta do this right. He's not here 625 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 4: to tell his story, so the person has to. You know, 626 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 4: you gotta kind of have his aura, you gotta have 627 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 4: his vibe. You know, you have to be able to 628 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 4: on screen make it real, you know, make it feel 629 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 4: like him. And that was for me, that was the 630 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 4: most important part. And I think Raven's amazing. Raven's the 631 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 4: character who played my role. When I saw her audition tape, 632 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 4: she made me cry every emotion absolutely and once I 633 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 4: saw that, I said, Okay, it's her. 634 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: How can people honor Sean's story in a way that 635 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: leads to action, not just sympathy, so in. 636 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 4: A way that leads to actions. So we need we 637 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 4: need everyone to for one, go out and vote for 638 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 4: your local elections and your local elections, like do what 639 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 4: you can do your part. You know, personally, this is 640 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 4: you know, something that we all have to continue to 641 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 4: to shine the light on, you know, whether it's his 642 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 4: story or it's you know, an injustice that you know 643 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 4: of in your area. Like, let's support each other. Join 644 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 4: an organization. If you don't see an organization that that 645 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 4: resonates with you, start an organization. There are many things 646 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 4: that you can do to advocate and it doesn't always 647 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 4: have to be just in Shawn's name. But get be 648 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 4: a part of some kind of movement. Get out there, 649 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 4: be a part of a movement. And you know, for us, 650 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 4: there there aren't any more legal, you know, measures that 651 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 4: I can take. I've exhausted those. So this is the 652 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,479 Speaker 4: next step for me. And I want everybody to get 653 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 4: out there and go see it, you know, and and 654 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 4: tell the story, pass the story along, and we're gonna 655 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 4: be at colleges. You know, we're gonna going to share 656 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 4: the story with the next generation who doesn't know Sean 657 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 4: hasn't heard about this story. And that's really it. 658 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 1: And if youwers walk away with just one lesson from 659 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: after shock, what do you hope it is? 660 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 4: One lesson for after shock is that you cannot let 661 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 4: life like take you out. There are things that's gonna happen, 662 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 4: and you have to find your way, find your way 663 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:31,399 Speaker 4: to make it through endurance. Resilience is life like. We're 664 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 4: all going to get knocked down at some point, right 665 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 4: and it may not be to this magnitude, and I 666 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 4: pray it's not to this magnitude, but life is gonna 667 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 4: come at you and you have to find your way, 668 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 4: whatever your way is, to get over it and to 669 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,399 Speaker 4: when I say get over it. I mean to get 670 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 4: over the hump, not to get you know, not to 671 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 4: move out of the way, but to get over that 672 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 4: hump and push through and and support your people like 673 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 4: you know, this is we need that support. I'm I'm 674 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 4: thankful for people like many you know and his team 675 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 4: who are not you know, affiliated with any type of 676 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 4: justice you know, organizations or anything, but he said, hey, 677 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 4: this is something that's important and we want to get 678 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 4: behind you on this, and I'm just really thankful for that. 679 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 4: And I think everyone needs to find, you know, whatever 680 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 4: your source is, what is your source, and and just 681 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 4: feed that and keep going and don't give up. 682 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 3: Absolutely well, definitely check it out this Friday after Shock 683 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 3: and Nicole pe Bell story, and thank you for sharing 684 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 3: your story. Thank you great so much, Manny. 685 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 2: But it's tough. Definitely always sending your. 686 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 3: Healing energy, absolutely healing energy, and Manny you too. I'm 687 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 3: always praying me and my wife is always praying for you, Manny. 688 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 3: So we love you and thank you so much for 689 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 3: sharing it. Again. If y'all need anything, please let us know, 690 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 3: and thank you so much. 691 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 4: Everywhere AMC Theaters is select AMC Theaters nationwide, So if 692 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 4: you go on fendangle dot com you'll see it airs. 693 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 4: It releases November twenty eighth, and then on digital as 694 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 4: of December fifteenth. 695 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 3: All right, Nicole Bell, it's the Breakfast Club. 696 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 2: Good morning, hold. 697 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: Up every day up, wake, pake your ass up, the 698 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. 699 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:14,479 Speaker 2: You know I'm finished or y'all done