WEBVTT - #68 - Kip Moore 0:00:00.600 --> 0:00:03.720 All right, Welcome to Episodes sixty of The Bobby Cast 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:08.200 and with Kip Moore. Today. God see you tube here 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:11.600 showing up here today. Can you talk about what you're 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:15.880 doing today? Yeah? I was doing this thing with um 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:18.439 with Chase Elly when we filmed last week where I 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:20.720 was on the on the track with him in Michigan, 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:25.320 and it's, Uh, they've picked some athletes where they're kind 0:00:25.320 --> 0:00:28.000 of asking how do they get ready for a race? 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:32.000 What music they listened to? And he listens to my music, 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:35.000 So it's that's pretty cool. It was cool man, Um, 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:37.879 you know I read in the Chase It's funny. I 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:40.080 met him probably a year and a half ago. Drake 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:42.440 White and I were playing a show and he was 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:45.120 kind of he was announcing both of us, and so 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:46.760 we got to hang then. I got to know him then, 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:48.560 and I didn't know that, you know, he was a 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:50.280 fan of the music back then, so we talked about 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:52.760 it back then, and uh, it was neat man, just 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:54.880 seeing his whole world, because I can admit that I'm 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:59.279 not like I didn't grow up with NASCAR. Really, I've 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:01.160 seen races it like you have, but I don't know 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:04.640 the detail of it. So him bringing me, you know, 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:06.840 in the garage, showing how they build the cars up, 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:09.760 tear him down off after almost every race, all the 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:12.440 aerodynamics that go into it. And then and then it 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:15.360 was kind of like me picking his brain on the 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:17.120 way he likes to. You know, you would think a 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:20.680 NASCAR driver I would want to listen to like really 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:22.360 pumped up music, but he's like, I like to get 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:25.280 as calm as I possibly can because the race is 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:27.080 so long, and it helps me kind of settle in 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:29.200 and know and then it's gonna be you know, he 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:31.400 likes really chilled out music before he gets in the car. 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:34.160 That's an interesting thing. Who who's coming to you before 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:36.320 and say hey, Which was surprising to you, is that man, 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:38.480 I really love your music. Where you're like, wow, that's cool, 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:44.240 Like you like my music? Um man, I can't think 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:46.240 of the top of my head right now. I know 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:49.120 there's been a few of those cases where any other artists, 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:51.200 even in town, that it will call you be like, dude, 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:55.280 I just heard the song yours and it's fantastic. Um. 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:57.960 Jared Johnston, I'm such a fan of what the collect 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:00.280 three do uh so much, and Jared and I are 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:02.760 we've become pretty good buddies. But I can remember when 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:05.400 the first time he heard that was us. He's like, 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:07.520 if you don't put this song out, I'm gonna come 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:09.360 up with your house and bite you tomorrow. So I mean, 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:11.160 he's just he was a big fan of that, and 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:14.880 then we ended up touring together after that, so, um, yeah, 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:17.320 you know I didn't know that. You know, Jared was 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:19.880 around listening to music, So you know, it's it's cool, man, 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:22.880 when other people that you respect respect what you do. 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:25.760 You're an interesting guy. And I think in the past 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:27.280 six months so we probably got to know each other 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:28.799 better than we have in the past three and a 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:32.240 half years before that. But we were talking. We're you 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:35.359 and I are up in a room at our management office. 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:40.040 We're talking about Bob Dylan. Yeah, and you were talking 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:41.280 and you were like, you know, I still and I 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:43.320 was listening to you because listen. I like to listen. 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:47.200 And you and you were talking and you're talking about 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:49.239 Bob Dylan, and you were talking about I used to 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:51.160 study Bob Dylan lyrics, and I was like, look at 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:55.000 this guy. Another layer of the onion. They kept more 0:02:55.160 --> 0:03:00.640 onion I did. Man, you know, I feel like, um, 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:07.400 I feel like dealing somewhat kind of saved me from myself. 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:10.600 I can be um, I feel like I'm I'm really 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:14.480 coming out of that, but I UM, I can battle 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:17.880 a lot of my own demons pretty heavily. And at 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:19.799 the time when I really discovered dealing, I mean, my 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:21.760 dad played him something growing up. But you know, when 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:25.520 you're when you're fourteen and fifteen, you can't comprehend what 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:28.640 dealing singing about, nor can you relate to it. You 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:30.799 can enjoy the music and the melody, which I did 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:33.640 kind of the same thing with with Seeger and Springsteen, 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:36.560 but I can't relate to but Bob Seeger against the 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:39.280 Wind when I'm fourteen, you know. But um, the more 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:41.480 you know, I left home when I was like seventeen, 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:45.280 and I went like seven hours away to go play school, 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:47.520 but you know, go to basket play basketball away from school, 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:49.720 and and then I've been traveling ever since and just 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:53.920 living life and diving into stuff wide open, and I've 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:55.680 been on my own taking care of myself, and I 0:03:55.720 --> 0:04:00.480 can remember living and the biggest dump the last time 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:02.200 I went recently to dry By the place, and I 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:04.440 had yellow tape around the whole place. I guess, I 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:07.080 guess something like that I went down, but man, it 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:09.480 was awful. It was It was awful, man. And uh, 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:12.840 just that feeling of which I'm sure you've had, that 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:18.159 where looking around at all your friends kind of on 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:21.600 the hamster wheel of life that sometimes I admire that 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:23.279 I wish I could, you know, be that way. The 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:25.640 people that just you know, they'll go work for the 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:28.040 dad's insturance company or whatever, and you know they'll make 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:31.640 a good living. The you know plant roots, you know 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:34.159 plant roots have a wife and kids and and go 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:36.120 through that whole kind of structure that we're all kind 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:39.840 of programmed to due at a young age. And here 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:46.480 I was living in a complete ship hole. Am I 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:50.719 allowed to stay there on this just feeling like the 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:54.600 biggest low life. But at the same time I had 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:57.400 that exciting feeling every morning I woke up that anything 0:04:57.440 --> 0:05:00.640 could happen, where I felt like everybod else they knew 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:02.280 exactly what the day was gonna be and know what 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:04.880 was gonna be like when they came home. There was 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:08.720 an excitement of just feeling like and he could light 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:11.359 and constrike them aorrow. And I think that when I 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:15.400 really dovee into dealing and around seven, I mean I 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:18.840 would I would spend I get off work and I'd 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:23.640 write from from five to twelve o'clock at night, and 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:25.440 then I would lay on the floor. I've always liked 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:26.760 to lay on the floor. I don't know why, but 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:28.280 I had a record player and I would listen to 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:31.240 all the old Dealing records told three or four o'clock 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:33.920 in the morning, and I'd write. I'd write out his lyrics. 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:35.760 I try to understand the way he was using his 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:38.320 metaphors and everything and the playoff of words. He was 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:43.560 the best to playoff of words. And I was just 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:46.800 blown away by his music. I was so well. It 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:48.919 was such an inspiring time for me. And I felt 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:52.200 like I really related to a lot of what Dealing 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:53.680 was saying a lot of music, and I feel like 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:57.200 I've always had that that passionate spirit about me, and 0:05:57.240 --> 0:06:00.200 I looked at things in an innocent kind of way, 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:01.920 which a lot of his music was. There was there 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:06.080 was such an innocence to it. There's that I have 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:07.440 a lot of onion. There's a lot of onion to 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:10.400 talk about here. What do you There's also the part 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:14.160 that I found it struck me is that you had 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:15.960 a couple of hits and you win't got an apartment, 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:19.159 your first decently nice place to live. It was my 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:22.960 first place. It was decent, but it wasn't good for 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:26.640 your soul, so you had to move out. Yeah, I 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:30.040 felt like I found myself all of a sudden. It's 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:32.599 kind of like I thrive on miserable misery in a 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:36.400 weird way. But I found myself comfortable for the first 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:39.240 time in my life. Where I was coming home, I 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:41.760 was watching TV, I was laying on the couch and 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:46.320 eating good food and and and all of a sudden, 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:48.240 I felt like I was I was losing a little 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:50.640 bit of that inspiration in that drive, that kind of 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:54.960 so I called Brett, who was my publisher, Brett James, 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:58.720 who's written a million hits, and he Brett had bought 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:01.719 this old house was building there like mid eighteen hundreds. 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:04.719 It's one of the last remaining ones down there Music 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:07.160 Road where they're building all this stuff around behind Losers. 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:09.360 That that one old building with the black iron gate, 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:15.800 and it's the spooky, ist erious dark. Everything about that 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:17.400 place is not where you want to live. But it's 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:20.080 great for writing. And I've written almost the entire up 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:25.160 all night record in that house and there were there's 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:28.280 a room upstairs. It's just this it's it's awful. Man, 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:30.160 that's a really tiny little box. Man, it's a lot 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:32.960 smaller than this room. And I called him and said, hey, man, 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:35.920 I want to move into that room and I want 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:37.560 to write my next record in there, you know, in 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:39.840 the in in the house again, you know. And so 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:41.760 I moved all my stuff into that room, was crammed 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:43.200 in there, and I was on I slept on a 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:46.760 on a twin bed for about for about two years. 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:49.080 And the hot water heater didn't work, so I took 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:52.240 cold showers every morning and that was like thirty seconds 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:54.520 in and out. So my when I would go on 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:56.720 the road, it was like heaven in an arena, like 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:59.000 a shower and arena. It was like I got hot water, 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:01.640 you know. So but I would I wrote almost the 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:05.679 whole Wild One's record for the most part in that house. 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:08.440 There was no furniture. There's no um, and there's a 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:11.720 there's a couple like random like regular chairs and not 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:14.400 chairs like this, and you've got no TVs. It's all 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:18.000 and it's crazy haunted. I got haunted stories that would 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:20.320 blow your mind, which finally ran me out and I 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:23.240 got a place because it was so scary at night, 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:26.840 so you didn't want to be comfortable. What do you 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:28.240 think that comes from? What do you think the root 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:33.319 of that is? Hey? Do you create better from sadness? 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:37.400 I feel like I at that time in my life, 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:41.120 and I've learned how to just channel a different side 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:42.959 of me where I don't I don't I don't quite 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:44.600 need that as much, but I still I live. I 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:47.880 live very very moderate on purpose, like I have a 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:52.200 tiny little house on the other side of town, and um, 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:56.000 I don't really have any things. Um. I tried, but 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:59.240 I felt like for me, it played a trick on 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:01.360 my mind where I still felt like I was at 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:04.080 the bottom where I feel like I write better out 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:07.760 of desperation. So it you know, taking Colchwer was every 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:09.840 morning sleeping on that twin bed, which I hated. Man. 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:12.240 I had an old junk mattress. It was, it was, 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:15.679 it was awful, man. Uh, But it just it played 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:17.560 a trick on me to where I still felt like 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:21.400 I was completely broke and trying to go after something. 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:23.400 And I kind of learned how that that I don't 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:26.560 need that as much now. Um, But I still like 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:29.439 when I travel, I like to stay in hostels. Um. 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:32.760 We just did that whole backpacking through ice and staying 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:35.200 in the the hostels, and um, I do that when I 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:39.000 go to MAUI sometimes Costa Rica. Um. And I'll write 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:40.280 a lot of music when I'm out there like that, 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:43.680 and I'll meet interesting people, and I don't you know, 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:47.120 it's almost get uncomfortable, like I thought I'm around from 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:50.600 in the fourth seasons, I'm uncomfortab around those people. They're fine, 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:53.079 they're nice, they're get I get uncomfortable around that kind 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:57.760 of setting, really fine dining and luxurious rooms. Like it's 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:00.679 a weird thing. Man. For me, you talk about the 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:03.400 place being haunted. We've talked about this a bit, but 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:06.680 you're convinced, like it's not maybe it was a ghost 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:08.840 to you, it's not maybe there's no there's no there's 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:13.760 this is I'm probably about to get off on a 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:19.160 weird place here. Um. For me, it could have also 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:23.120 been I was I was not in a good headspace 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:25.679 at all. Um. I wasn't. I wasn't a really weird 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:28.199 I've already written like a whole second project that pretty 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:29.880 much got shell of the label. They were like, we 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:32.720 don't have radio stuff here. This is too edgy, this 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:36.600 is to this, this is too and that's heartbreaking as 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:38.600 a writer and artist, and you turn something in and 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:40.200 I try to explain that to a lot of people 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:43.640 sometimes too. Where my old jobs there was a beauty 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:46.920 and just going to work, doing the job, going home 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:50.400 kind of having that mindless feel of Okay, now I 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:52.440 can devote this other part of my time to a 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:57.480 girlfriend or whatever kind of thing or family, or I 0:10:57.559 --> 0:10:59.880 was present when I would leave work, and you know, 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:03.120 this job, you're even yours, You're you're constantly on judgment 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:05.720 for everything. I don't I wouldn't trade my job or anything, 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:11.400 but it's your It's a constant state of judgment. And 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:13.120 that was a hard thing to turn in something I 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:15.240 was so passionate about, which I hope sees the life 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:22.680 of day one day. Um, but I was in a bad, 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:27.640 bad place. And I've always, um had a heart for God. 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:30.800 And I'll say that openly, like I've always been really 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:33.720 connected with God, even even when I'm not reading, even 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:35.640 when I don't go to church, I've just always I 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:38.880 know that God's always with me. And I've usually been 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:42.160 pretty good about reading scripture, going to church, and you know, 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:44.160 I just go by myself a night or going Tuesday 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:46.040 nights or whatever. I'm sitting the back and I leave, 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:48.240 and I stayed connected. And at that time I was 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:51.200 really I wasn't connected at all. And it wasn't that 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:54.640 I was out, you know, doing blow all night and 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:57.600 stuff like. It was just I was. I was completely separate, 0:11:57.960 --> 0:11:59.920 and I was in a bad dark place. I compared 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:01.319 to get out of bed. I felt like a lot 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:08.960 of mornings. Um. And uh, maybe I was susceptible too, 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:10.680 because I believe there's a ball of good and evil 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:13.200 all the time going on around and maybe I was 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:16.800 at that time of my life really susceptible to that 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:22.320 entity tricking with my mind. I don't know, but I 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:25.000 can tell you the stuff that went down that house. 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:28.040 I mean it would be, you know, clear as day. 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:29.760 I go down and get a drink of water, and 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:33.679 and the garbage disposal was underneath the sink. You have 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:35.400 to flip a switch, turn it on, and I would 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:38.760 be walking off on that thing with bang cut back off. 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:41.960 I turned around, I looked and all the hairs be 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:44.520 up in my arm and I walked back off and 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:47.000 would just go old house. That's what I would say. 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:49.040 If I be like old house boy, like I would 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:52.160 look up underneath, switch is still off? I can? I can? 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:54.880 I got a million of those. There was a there's 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:56.800 a pantry and it used to have a hole in 0:12:56.840 --> 0:13:00.200 the floor, and I'm the only one there, and I 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:02.280 would at night, you know, late at night, you know, 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:04.400 I go in, maybe get get a snack out of 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:06.520 the pantry, and I look and the basement, the basement 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:10.680 was the spooky's basement ever, but the light would be 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:13.000 on underneath the pantry footboard, and I'd be like, I know, 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:15.080 I cut that off. I know that wasn't on. I 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:17.880 was in here last time. Cut it off. I come 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:20.600 back this morning. Thing was on. You have to flip 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:22.400 the switch on the turn it off. I mean a 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:25.120 short if the if the switch is off, you're not 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:27.400 gonna get a short like it's not you know. So. 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:32.640 But the kicker was I'd be laid in my bed 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:34.920 and this happened about three times, and on the second 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:36.439 time I told my manager and said, hey, to me, 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:39.719 A favorite look from your place. And this happened as 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:41.960 I really settled into the house and was living there, 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:44.160 I've been writing songs there for four or five years, 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:47.240 and people have had little stuff happened. But the minute 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:49.679 it was like I moved in there at all, kind 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:51.440 of started building up and it was almost like they 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:54.800 were going like, oh, buddy, you got to dried, you 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:59.040 got to get you know so. But I can' remember 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:00.720 laying there in bed but for it, and it always 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:03.880 would happen close to three o'clock. I remember laying there 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:06.800 and that my bed and I don't know what grenades 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:09.800 sound like. I got no clue, but it would be 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:12.000 like us being this room and it sounds like somebody 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:14.000 is just setting grenades off all through your house, and 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:17.800 it would sound like five people decided on the count 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:19.440 of three, we're gonna raise as much as hell as 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:21.440 we can, and everything it sounded like. And I was 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:23.280 in a tiny room and it sounded like there was 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:27.120 a fist on every inch of the wall on all 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:29.800 around me, just slamming and banging. And you can imagine 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:32.760 waking up to that feeling like the fear of that 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:34.720 first of all, feeling like somebody's break into your house. 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:37.080 The second of all, this is a whole another bag. 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:40.480 To the point where my bed was physically shaken, like 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:43.680 there's like the house the foundation was almost shaken. My 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:46.520 bed was moving, and I wake up and I would 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:49.000 come to and it would last for three or four 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:54.000 seconds as I had woken up, and the fear behind 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:55.840 that man was just and I would try to just 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:57.960 I pray and be like, I'm not gonna let this 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:00.360 bother me. I'm good, and I eventually lay back down. 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:02.480 And it happened about three different times. I had a 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:07.520 broom from me to you, sweeping ten solid seconds to 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:09.360 where I just sat up, and I mean every hair 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:12.000 and I just kind of I know, I'm not hearing 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:14.400 a broom beside me right now, and I lay back down. 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:17.240 After it would stop, I lay back down and it 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:20.080 would start right back up, and I even like sat 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:22.560 up in my bed. I cut the lights on and 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:25.240 I said at one point, I said, hey, look clean 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:28.320 all you want. I said, this place, and he's cleaning. 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:32.960 I'm I'm good with you. You can clean all your home. 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:35.400 And I lay back down. But I was scared of death, 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:38.160 but I was trying to get myself calm. But you know, 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:41.760 that might have been a whole another thing man that 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:46.880 could have been I don't know Bob, I mean to me, 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:48.640 it was it ghoest, but it could have also been 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:50.880 what I was talking about earlier. I'm not sure. I 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:53.320 still don't know what that was. So you moved, but 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:56.440 and that hasn't happened since, no, I mean, I've barely 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:58.280 been back in there since I used to write in 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:00.600 there every single day, and I wrote this whole new record. 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:04.040 I didn't write one song in there, and that's kind 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:05.520 of gave me a sense of piece because I feel 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:07.040 like it's the best stuff I've done. 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So explain that 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:48.840 to me and to people who have no idea about 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:51.760 the recording process and vocals, you know, And once again 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:57.320 that was uh for me, that that's kind of a 0:17:57.359 --> 0:17:59.479 thing for me is and the first thing in the morning, 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:04.119 before I've I've been talking a lot or singing because 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:06.560 I sing like all my own harmonies on this record too, 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:09.160 so you have to use a whole different You've got 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:11.280 to really stretch that high end. And once you've burned 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:13.359 that high end a whole lot, you know, you're singing 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:16.280 for an hour straight. That low ends just kind of 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:18.800 it's still there. I mean I was just I kind 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:21.800 of naturally have a deeper voice, but it's the width 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:23.720 and you can feel it on the mic, you can 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:26.119 feel it in the control room. The width that I 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:28.000 have in the morning is just different than I have 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:30.920 late at night once I burned that out, And it's 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:36.040 just that's just me just kind of learning from singing, 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:38.239 you know, doing so many demos throughout the years and 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:40.840 being like, man, my voice just in the morning it 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:44.280 feels like there's a whole different width to it. And 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:46.719 maybe that's become a psychological thing too, but I just 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:50.959 feel I feel really strong getting the most width out 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:52.960 of my voice in the morning. Do you feel like 0:18:53.000 --> 0:18:57.320 you sing better in the shower? I wonder if legitimately 0:18:57.440 --> 0:19:00.760 great singers feel like they even and sound better in 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:02.879 the shower. I feel like everybody sounds better, But you do, 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:04.679 like you ever seen the shower? Go day? Because I do? 0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:06.840 And I'm not even a good singer, but you're a 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:08.800 really good singer. Do you sing it go? I'm even 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:10.879 better in the shower. I think I'm pretty incredible in 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:16.320 the show. It's the reverb. Then, it's like it's like 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:18.720 a natural reverb chamber. But then, why don't we create? 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:22.199 Why don't I go into the studios? Why am I 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:24.880 not like singing? It's some really good studio that never 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:29.919 a lot of a lot of recordings nowadays. When you 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:32.840 when you hear those old records, you hear Freddie Mercury, 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:35.200