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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Podcast. I am

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Speaker 1: Ryan Warmley, joined by my friend PJ Glasser from Game

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Speaker 1: Day Garage and Hoops in five with PJ.

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Speaker 2: Glass or PJ.

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Speaker 1: It is one of the best days of the year,

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Speaker 1: which feels very strange to say to some people because

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Speaker 1: we're not actually celebrating games being played there. Of course,

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Speaker 1: we're conference tournaments wrapping up today. But what makes it

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Speaker 1: one of the great days of the year is getting

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Speaker 1: a bracket.

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Speaker 2: I know it is killing you.

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Speaker 1: You don't have a physical copy of a bracket in

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Speaker 1: front of you, we will have to make do.

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Speaker 2: How are you doing on this selection Sunday doing.

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Speaker 3: Gray Worn one of my favorite days, man, Like you said,

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Speaker 3: all the hypotheticals are out the window, all the bracketologists

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Speaker 3: and trying to figure out where your team's gonna play,

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Speaker 3: who they're gonna play, all those sorts of things. We

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Speaker 3: finally haven't I think for the most part, like the

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Speaker 3: committee did a pretty decent job, right Like. It feels

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Speaker 3: like every year there's kind of an egregious era. Last

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Speaker 3: year they had Gonzagas in eight, right, Like, there's always

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Speaker 3: one of those where it's like, what are we doing

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Speaker 3: I thought maybe like Saint John's was potentially a little

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Speaker 3: low at five. I thought, maybe you get in before

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Speaker 3: for winning the Big East and beating the Yukon like

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Speaker 3: they did. Outside of that though, like they put Miami

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Speaker 3: of Ohio, they put Miami, Ohio in obviously the right move.

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Speaker 3: All the bubble teams like, no real arguments Texas, maybe

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Speaker 3: NC State being one of the first last four in

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Speaker 3: was a little bit surprising, but certainly a team that

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Speaker 3: I thought was going to be in the field. So

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Speaker 3: that's my kind of big overall takeaway is like, I'm

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Speaker 3: glad that we don't have any crazy teams that are

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Speaker 3: underseeded overseeded. It feels like every team is for the

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Speaker 3: most part, pretty properly seeded.

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Speaker 4: Everything we thought.

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Speaker 3: Kind of going in where they would be, they are,

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Speaker 3: and I think we're going to have ourselves a great tournament.

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Speaker 4: My front feels.

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Speaker 1: Like to me, and you were doing a show with

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Speaker 1: Game Day Garage, you know, live with the bracket reveal,

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Speaker 1: so I don't know how much you were looking at Twitter.

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Speaker 1: It felt to me like this was the least talk

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Speaker 1: of snubs I had seen, yeah, in really a long time.

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Speaker 1: I don't recall the last time that everybody was.

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Speaker 2: Kind of like, yeah, they kind of got it right.

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Speaker 1: Like there was definitely talk about Saint John's being, you know,

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Speaker 1: seed liner two to two low, Vanderbilt as a five,

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Speaker 1: I know, got some discussion as well, but like a

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Speaker 1: couple of seeding you know, question marks being the real

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Speaker 1: big talking points on selection Sunday is unusual. They pretty

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Speaker 1: much got the teams in that should have been in,

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Speaker 1: which partially does speak to how weak the bubble was. Right,

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Speaker 1: there's not a lot of teams out there that you

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Speaker 1: want to be making strong cases where that should have

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Speaker 2: Instead.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a fun tournament for sure. I do

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Speaker 1: The contest begins on March nineteen. So yeah, kind of

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Speaker 1: like these initial thoughts on the bracket, it looks pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like we've talked kind of previously PJ

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Speaker 1: about you know, the top teams being very strong this year.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like the field as a whole is

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Speaker 1: particularly strong, Is it particularly deep? Is it particularly weak?

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Speaker 1: What adjective kind of comes to mind when you're like,

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Speaker 1: not talking about the best teams, but talking about.

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Speaker 2: All sixty eight as a whole. Does this look like

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Speaker 3: It looks like overall a weak field, I would say,

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Speaker 3: there are certain regions that are stronger than others, you know,

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Speaker 3: like when before they reveal the bracket, there are certain

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Speaker 3: teams that you kind of have in your head that

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Speaker 3: like a lot of my teams that I was kind

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's just like the way that it works sometimes so

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is a very weak bubble.

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Speaker 3: Seventeen and eighteen and sixteen, Auburn was in consideration forget

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Speaker 3: just look off the Ken Palm ratings and these teams

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Speaker 3: the most it's ever been. There are twenty teams that

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Speaker 3: tournament last year. I think it's a top heavy tournament again.

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Speaker 3: With that being said, I think the two, the three,

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Speaker 3: So overall I would lean towards the weaker side. But

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Speaker 3: there are a lot of good teams, and I like

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Speaker 3: a bunch of these mid majors as well. I think

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Speaker 1: It does feel like injuries could play a role in

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Speaker 1: the tournament. Like obviously Michigan has lost firepower, Duke doesn't

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Speaker 1: Texas Tech could have been a team that people would

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Speaker 1: Like it feels like whether it's players that are just

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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, And it's going to be interesting to see

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Speaker 3: how those teams are viewed in the betting market. Right,

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Speaker 3: So you take Texas Tech for examples, going up against

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Speaker 3: they're going to be a popular upset pick whoever they

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Speaker 3: I think maybe one or two of them could. But

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Speaker 3: you're right, injuries are certainly going to play a part

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Speaker 2: I didn't actually sit down and do the math here.

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Speaker 1: I know last year the top four team the one

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Speaker 1: Ever this year, I'm just looking at it here. I

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Speaker 1: Obviously two of these teams are the same one seeds

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Speaker 2: Do you feel like this.

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Speaker 1: Year's four as a group is stronger or weaker than

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Speaker 4: No, I think last year's is stronger.

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Speaker 3: That Duke team that lost to Houston, I still think

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Speaker 3: the other three teams I think Arizona's really really good too,

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Speaker 3: I think last year's ones are better than this year's.

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Speaker 1: you feel like the defense is is that an angle

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Speaker 1: in terms of how you're projecting the bracket to actually

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Speaker 3: Oh, I think having a great defense is totally key,

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Speaker 3: especially in a tournament setting in a one and done

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Speaker 3: survive in advance. You know, it's a lot easier to

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Speaker 3: you're not going to score ninety points every single game.

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Speaker 3: the seventies. So that's why all those ken Pom trends

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Speaker 3: forty offense, top twenty defense. It's because you know, those

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Speaker 1: Bracket RIGHTPGA. We're going to go region by region. I

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Speaker 1: Region, not round by round. Okay, we do approach this differently.

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Speaker 3: You?

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Speaker 2: Is it the coaching? Is it? It is a coacher?

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Speaker 2: I can see you, not in your head, I mean.

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent right, Like they read off, Duke, we

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Speaker 3: Beaten a lot of the top teams in the country,

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Speaker 3: And I think TCU, with how good they were in

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Speaker 3: And I look at their drawl. I think Northern Iowa

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Speaker 4: That could be some issues.

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Speaker 3: So you know, it's funny how certain teams win their

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Speaker 3: shocked if they beat them. And then if that happens,

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Speaker 3: It's funny, I actually have Yukon in my final four

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Speaker 4: It's just it's just the way, just the way that

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Speaker 1: There's also there also is something and I know this

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Speaker 1: Like we've seen this happen before. Let's just write Yukon

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Speaker 1: even if it's maybe not your favorite version of the Huskies.

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Speaker 1: I think the individual talent in this region is really interesting.

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Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned Darren Peterson like might be the

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Speaker 2: You know, Donovan Dent.

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Speaker 1: In UCLA, Like, there's there's some really good individual players here,

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Speaker 1: Can you just quickly take a few seconds. Why is

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Speaker 3: that wouldn't be terrible. I think a lot of us

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Speaker 3: that's what it really came down to. Even though they

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Speaker 1: I want to incentivize teams to play tough, fun non

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Speaker 1: Like I do, I think you Conton's a better team

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Speaker 1: Like at a certain point your conference play has to

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Speaker 1: saying even saying that Saint Johns should be higher, but

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Speaker 1: like three seed lines lower feels feels incorrect in looking

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Speaker 1: at which again is not you know, I'm not going

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Speaker 3: Region or are you Are you like me where you

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Speaker 2: I think it's really funny.

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Speaker 1: There's always like a region of death right, which by

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Speaker 1: don't know who I want to put my instead like

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Speaker 1: I feel, I feel like pretty okay as okay as

438
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Speaker 1: one can feel saying I don't think the number one

439
00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,199
Speaker 1: overall seed is getting out of their region.

440
00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,240
Speaker 2: That's how I feel about this current version of Duke.

441
00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,560
Speaker 1: And yet I'm like, I don't know, like you know again,

442
00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,440
Speaker 1: the Kansas has been such a disappointment this year.

443
00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,159
Speaker 2: Yukud is not my favorite Yukon.

444
00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,520
Speaker 1: I think if forced to pick, I would pick one

445
00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:49,560
Speaker 1: of the Big East teams.

446
00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,200
Speaker 2: I would pick either Saint John's or Yukon.

447
00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:53,240
Speaker 1: Of course, we have a few days for me to

448
00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,919
Speaker 1: tinker with my with my bracket and come away with

449
00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,720
Speaker 1: a different answer. And now just really quickly, and we

450
00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,639
Speaker 1: won't spend this long on each region. This one just

451
00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,240
Speaker 1: has a ton of really fascinating teams really quickly before

452
00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,200
Speaker 1: we move off the East. Why do you not like

453
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:06,760
Speaker 1: this Michigan State team? Because I think there are some

454
00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,440
Speaker 1: people who do like this Michigan State team. And of course,

455
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,080
Speaker 1: you know, to the Tomezo of it all, you know,

456
00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:13,919
Speaker 1: March's is his specialty.

457
00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:15,600
Speaker 2: Why do you not like the Spartans.

458
00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,800
Speaker 3: It's more so I just don't like the Big ten

459
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:19,960
Speaker 3: and I think as we go through this bracket, a

460
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,600
Speaker 3: lot of people will start to get that will start

461
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,200
Speaker 3: to get that feeling that I'm fading a lot of

462
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,240
Speaker 3: these Big Ten teams. But we're I mean all of

463
00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 3: us that watch college sports every year. When it's like

464
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,760
Speaker 3: seven pm Easter on Thursday, or it's late in the

465
00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,480
Speaker 3: day on Friday, we all see that graphic of oh

466
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,280
Speaker 3: the Accs six and one today, Oh the Big Twelves

467
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 3: five and oh today. Right, So a lot of times

468
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:46,600
Speaker 3: these conferences, they either struggle or they do really well.

469
00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,879
Speaker 3: I kind of tend to think the Big Ten is

470
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 3: going to struggle in the tournament this year. And even

471
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,359
Speaker 3: though Michigan State's offense has been better this year than

472
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,159
Speaker 3: it has been in the last couple of years, I

473
00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,439
Speaker 3: just I don't know if they have enough shot creators,

474
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,200
Speaker 3: you know, when they get late in games. Even though

475
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,160
Speaker 3: they were they were good down the stretch in Big

476
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 3: Ten play. Again, I just now that you're out of

477
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,160
Speaker 3: your league, you're going in the non conference, I think

478
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 3: it's gonna be tough. They do have a nice little

479
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 3: region down there, like Louisville's six no. And then you

480
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,159
Speaker 3: know UCLA they just beat you. So I'm sure they

481
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 3: would like to see them again Yukon. They could beat

482
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,360
Speaker 3: them if they play well. But yeah, it's it's more

483
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,920
Speaker 3: of a Big Ten honestly than it is Michigan State.

484
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,359
Speaker 3: I like them more than some of the other Big

485
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,439
Speaker 3: ten teams, but as a whole, I think Michigan State's

486
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 3: going to be grouped in with those Big ten teams.

487
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Speaker 4: I'm looking to fit.

488
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,400
Speaker 1: Last Big Ten team, at least of the current Big

489
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 1: ten teams to win a championship.

490
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,439
Speaker 2: Thank yeah, hold up my sweat. You're here for the

491
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 2: U two body there?

492
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 1: Of course not in the tournament this year because they

493
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 1: were very very very very far from the bubble.

494
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 4: Are you a UNBC guy this year?

495
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 2: This tournament?

496
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 1: You know?

497
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 2: Why not? I hadn't really given it much thought. Maybe

498
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 2: they can do it again.

499
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,679
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to We are going to go

500
00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,439
Speaker 1: the order I like to fill up my brackets. We're

501
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:00,440
Speaker 1: gonna go to the West Region.

502
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:00,680
Speaker 2: Here.

503
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 1: One seed is Arizona Perdue, the two coming off the

504
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,640
Speaker 1: Big Ten Conference title, Gonzaga, the three Arkansas, The four

505
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 1: Wisconsin you mentioned is probably a possible sleeper for a

506
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 1: lot of people. Is the five BYU with the other

507
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 1: potential number one overall pick in the NBA Draft. AJ

508
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 1: Debonsa is the sixth Some of the names here, Miami,

509
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 1: Missouri is an interesting one high point going up against Wisconsin, Villanova,

510
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 1: Utah State is the eight to nine Texas, and NC

511
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 1: State is the kind of play in for the eleven seed.

512
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 1: I feel like so last year going into the tournament,

513
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 1: the team I really wanted to pick was Florida, but

514
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 1: I felt like I started to hear a lot of

515
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 1: people picking Florida, and so I didn't because I wanted

516
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:50,200
Speaker 1: to differentiate from what everybody else was doing. I'm starting

517
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 1: to feel that a little with Arizona, and I think

518
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 1: the reason why I see so many people say Arizona

519
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,400
Speaker 1: is because of the one seeds, who are all very strong.

520
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 1: They just feel this sty It is the It is

521
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 1: very easy to paint a picture of why Duke might

522
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: not make the final four. It's very easy to paint

523
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 1: a picture for Michigan. Florida just got their doors blown

524
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 1: off in the SEC Tournament. Arizona is the one to

525
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,679
Speaker 1: one seed where it's like, I'm just really confident this

526
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 1: is a really, really good team. I'm not saying there's

527
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: some historic juggernaut, but I just there's just not It's

528
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 1: it's much harder to paint that picture than I think

529
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 1: it is for the other three, which is why I

530
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,120
Speaker 1: think a lot of people are going to be picking them.

531
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 1: And while there are some strong teams, there's a lot

532
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 1: of high ceilings I think in their region. But it's

533
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 1: not like this overwhelming region of there's not a ton

534
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: of dominant coaches in here. There's not teams that have

535
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 1: been good start to fit. Like Purdue is playing well

536
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 1: right now, like you know, winning the conference tournament and

537
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: obviously have a ton of talent and some great players,

538
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 1: but they had a lot of real downstretches this year

539
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 1: and come from the Big Ten that you are you know,

540
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: down on you know, Arkansas Acuff's really good. It's a

541
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: flawed team. Gonzaga, this is not the Gonzaga we've seen

542
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 1: the last you know, half decade of dominance. It's a

543
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 1: different Wisconsin. It just feels different as a Wisconsin team

544
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: in the last couple of years. So you're running through

545
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: the list, you know, Villanova, I don't believe in, you know,

546
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 1: as a potential eight to give them a game in

547
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: the second round, So like I almost like, stop me

548
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 1: when you hear a team that you think in ups

549
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 1: at Arizona. It's just that, to me, is the easiest

550
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: one seed depensil into the final four.

551
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 3: In my opinion, I'm a little higher on Purduing and Zaga.

552
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 3: It sounds like than you are. I still like Arizona

553
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 3: to come out of the region. I think this is

554
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 3: the region where maybe we could see the most first

555
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 3: round upsets potentially. I think High Point's got a great

556
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 3: chance of beating Wisconsin. I think the winner of Texas

557
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 3: and c State's got a great shot at beating BYU.

558
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 3: Don't think Kawaii can beat Arkansas, but it certainly would

559
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,719
Speaker 3: not shock me if they do, because the Arkansas defense

560
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,679
Speaker 3: is not very good. I'm higher on the Zags and

561
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 3: Purdue though. Purdue, you know the reason we talked about

562
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 3: it last week. I bet them to win the Big

563
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 3: Ten Conference tournament. They were just a team that needed

564
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 3: to get out of the regular season. They just needed

565
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 3: to get away from Macki Arena. As crazy as that was,

566
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 3: they could not win any big games at home. And

567
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 3: with all the experience on that team and all the

568
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 3: games at Smith, Lawyer, Kauff and Ren, these guys have

569
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 3: played together. I mean, this is what they've been waiting for.

570
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 3: It's this time of the year. They wanted to win

571
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 3: a Big Ten championship, and they wanted to win a

572
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 3: national championship.

573
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 4: So I just told you, I want to fade.

574
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 3: A lot of these Big ten teams produce normally a

575
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 3: team that you want to fade in March with Painters

576
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 3: track record, but I think they're very intriguing this year.

577
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 4: I also think in Zag is intriguing. Man.

578
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 3: I mean, we talked about it last week, but Mark

579
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 3: Fu's got a better defensive team than he does offensive team,

580
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 3: and we don't know what that looks like in Mark.

581
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 3: One thing that also never gets talked about with Mark

582
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 3: Few is what a great early round tournament coach he

583
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 3: is like his team. I think he's made it to

584
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,959
Speaker 3: nine or ten straight sweet sixteens, and usually Gonzaga has

585
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 3: got one in two seeds. But again we've seen some one,

586
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 3: some twos, some threes go down here in recent years.

587
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 3: Gonzagas never in that mix. They're always good to win,

588
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 3: usually the first two games. I think they're gonna be

589
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 3: able to do that again this year. And the underrated

590
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 3: thing with Gonzaga is one of their best players. Braydon

591
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 3: Huff has been out for two months. He should be

592
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 3: back for the tournament, which is gonna help them along

593
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 3: with e K and give them one of the best

594
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 3: front courts in the country. All gonna come down to

595
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 3: the guard play for Gonzaga if they knock down their

596
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 3: three pointers. But they're one of the oldest teams in

597
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 3: college basketball. They're really good on defense. And I think

598
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 3: that Gonzaga produced Sweet Sixteen game is gonna be sweet.

599
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,239
Speaker 3: I think the winner of that game is gonna give

600
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 3: Arizona a heck of a game in the Elite Eight.

601
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 3: But I tell you what wor it just feels like

602
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 3: it's setting up for Arizona Gonzaga because then we get

603
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 3: the Tommy Lloyd Mark FEUs storylineer and we get the

604
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 3: student versus the teacher and Tommy Lloyd, how fitting would

605
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,239
Speaker 3: it be he gets to his first Elite Eight and

606
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 3: who does he see there on the other sideline but

607
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 3: his boss for so many years. So you know, I

608
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 3: talked about at the start how there were certain regions

609
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 3: with some teams that interest me. Other regions with some

610
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 3: teams I didn't want anything to do with Kenzaga. Purduer's

611
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 3: team teams that I was hoping to be sprinkled in

612
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 3: elsewhere where I could take a shot with them. I

613
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 3: didn't want them to be in Arizona's regions. So I

614
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 3: think one of those three is representing the West. I

615
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,959
Speaker 3: don't think Arkansas Wisconsin, even though some people could look

616
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 3: at those teams as sleeper, high upside final four. I

617
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 3: really think it's going to be one of the top

618
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 3: three seeds. But Arizona. You said it really well. They

619
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 3: just do feel the safest right now. They were so

620
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 3: good in the non conference. They're playing great basketball, and

621
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 3: I think their backcourt is the closest thing to what

622
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 3: Florida had last year.

623
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 4: Jaden Bradley.

624
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 3: We all saw the game winner against Houston in the

625
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 3: semi against Iowa State. Bray Bury's is a lottery pick,

626
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,719
Speaker 3: Like just del Orso off the bench is awesome, Like

627
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 3: their trio of guards I think is the best in

628
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 3: college basketball, to go along with the bigs. So just

629
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 3: feels like their roster is kind of the most complete

630
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 3: and they're to be tough to be But I think

631
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 3: Purdue and zag are gonna be tough outs in that region.

632
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 1: I'm more here for Purdue than I am for Gonzaga.

633
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: It's not that I hate Gonzaga because we actually talked

634
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: about that as a team that I liked. I think

635
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: I even threw them out, or I think you threw

636
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: them out, and it was my favorite pick of yours

637
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: in terms of some of these long shot bets when

638
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: we talked last week a team when we could see

639
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: their odds get better over the course of that week.

640
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: I like Gonzaga, but it just it feels hard to

641
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: feel have a ton of faith in them because it

642
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: just is a different looking Gonzaga.

643
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 2: Teave And then we're used to under mark Fie.

644
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 1: But you are right, Like I mean, he wakes up

645
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: in the sweet sixteen, like that's when their season starts. Yeah, Purdue,

646
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: though if they weren't in Arizona's region, I would be

647
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: coming on here. Like I was actually prepared before when

648
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: I was thinking about the show tonight, before the bracket

649
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: was revealed, I was prepared to be making a case

650
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: to you for Purdue. If they had been with any

651
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: of the other one seeds, I would be Arizona is

652
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: the one that it's hard for me to get there.

653
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: But I love PJ of teams that were really good

654
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: in terms of the preseason expectations. We know there's talent,

655
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: we know there's continuity. Like you said, there's there's so

656
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: much experience on this team. They're legitimate star players, and

657
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: then they have a down year, but there's not like

658
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: a particular reason of, oh, this guy got hurt and

659
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: that's why it was a down year, or this thing

660
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: you know fundamentally change and that's why it's a down year.

661
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: It was just kind of a disappointing season. And yet

662
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: their disappointing season, is there the eighth best team in

663
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: Ken Palm, the number one offense in Ken Pom, and

664
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: still have this team intact, Like if that's your really

665
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: disappointing year and you're now getting hot, that's a team

666
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: that I normally love, and I'm all over if again,

667
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: Arizona is the boogeyman in this region that I just

668
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: can't get past. But I do like Purdue. I know

669
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: you said you think you like, you know, you're maybe

670
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: higher on them than me. I want to be clear.

671
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: I do like Purdue quite a bit and would be

672
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: more excited if they were in a different region.

673
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 4: It's tough, too, is I mean?

674
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 3: By now, people that follow college basketball know about all

675
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 3: these trends, you know, the Ken Pomp stuff and like

676
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 3: the Week six A people and all these sorts of things,

677
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 3: and Duke, Arizona, Michigan are like the only three that

678
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 3: kind of fit like all the criteria. So your champion's

679
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 3: probably coming from one of those three. And you know,

680
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 3: you and I, it's kind of sounds like we're aligned

681
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 3: on Michigan to Duke maybe not winning the titles, so

682
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 3: it kind of just leaves Arizona left.

683
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 4: And that's why it's.

684
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: Like it's like your championship pick by default, almost exactly.

685
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 3: So I think the way worm that a lot of

686
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 3: people are gonna view the East where it's like a

687
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 3: lot of great coaches, a lot of teams with high upside,

688
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 3: but Duke's in there, so I don't like them, is

689
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 3: how we kind of view the West, where it's like

690
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 3: I like Purdue, I like Gonzaga.

691
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 4: It's just there in the region with Arizona. So I

692
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 4: can't take.

693
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, if I forced you to pick one of the

694
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: team's not one of those three, Gonzaga, Purdue, Arizona, you

695
00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: can just you don't even need to give me a

696
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,959
Speaker 1: full explanation, but I forced you to pick one shooting

697
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: from the hip.

698
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 2: Who are you picking?

699
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 4: It would be Arkansas? I just because a cuff.

700
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, a cuff just goes absolutely nuclear. Would shock anybody.

701
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 4: You got.

702
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 3: You got a Hall of Fame head coach with a

703
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 3: lottery pick point guard, best point guard in college basketball.

704
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 3: That's that's a good combo. They just won the SEC tournament,

705
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 3: so they get hot. Yeah, because look, I think they'll

706
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 3: beat Hawaii and I think they'll I think they'll beat

707
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 3: High Point, who I think is gonna upset Wisconsin. So

708
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 3: you know, one game winner take all against Arizona. Again,

709
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 3: I like Arizona in that game, But would shock anybody

710
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 3: if f Arkansas just goes nuts and wins?

711
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 4: Absolutely not.

712
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again we barely we didn't really talk about Buyu.

713
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: But the other probable number one pick here, de Bonsa

714
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: is awesome. And you know, it's harder for when you're

715
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: not like a point you always think of, like, who's

716
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: the guy who drags his team on a Final four

717
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: run unexpectedly, it's always a point guard, So it feels

718
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: a little different with aj. But I mean that dude

719
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: is a monster. As a Wizards fan, I hope they

720
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: get him in the draft. This year like I love

721
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: aj so even though we don't, they're not gonna be Gonzago,

722
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: you know, even if they even get there. But he's

723
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: a fun talent to watch. Let's go to the Midwest here, PJ.

724
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: This is Michigan's region. Iowa State is here, Virginia is here,

725
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: your Alabama team is here. Texas Tech we mentioned obviously

726
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: without JT top and Tennessee is the sixth seed. Kentucky's

727
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: also in this region. Saint Louis and Georgia is the

728
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: eight to nine game. Santa Clara's in this region. This

729
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: feels to me like if Arizona was in this region,

730
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: I would be like betting the mortgage on them. I

731
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: don't think this is a particularly strong region. It happens

732
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: to coincide with the one seed I feel worst about.

733
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: And you and I have talked about why we are

734
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: maybe feeling not so great about Michigan. But I don't

735
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: see a ton of very obvious, you know, no offense

736
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: to the Crimson tide. I don't see a ton of

737
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: very obvious teams. I like Iowa State eight, but it

738
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: just doesn't you know, all the two seats are good, right,

739
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: It's not like you're gonna absolutely hate any of them.

740
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: It's just not my favorite kind of group of competitors

741
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: for Michigan. So I'm kind of fading Michigan, just more

742
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: in terms of how I feel about the Wolverines, not

743
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: in terms of how I feel about the region.

744
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 3: Agreed, I think I think this sets up really nicely

745
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 3: for Michigan. I got no concerns about Georgia or Saint

746
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,959
Speaker 3: Louis taking them out in round one. If they do

747
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 3: get Texas Tech in the Sweet sixteen without topping dealing

748
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,239
Speaker 3: with that frontline, it's gonna be a nightmare. As an

749
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 3: Alabama fan, I can tell you Michigan is a nightmare

750
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 3: matchup because they cannot beat anybody with a good front court.

751
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 3: And oh here's Landenborg Maro Mores Johnson, so that would

752
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 3: be a nightmare. I think Michigan you can just put

753
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 3: them all the way to the Elite eight. The bottom

754
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 3: half of the region's interesting with Iowa State and Virginia

755
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 3: two teams. I do like I think Virginia could get

756
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 3: past Iowa State. You know, I think a lot of

757
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 3: people are gonna have one versus two in this region.

758
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 3: Ryan Odam's a heck of a co coach Man, and

759
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 3: I think Virginia Worm. They went twenty nine to five

760
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 3: this season, which I think is gonna surprise like a

761
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 3: lot of people. It's a heck of a team. And

762
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 3: again just like well balanced. You know, they don't really

763
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 3: have like any lottery picks, they don't have any of

764
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 3: these stud freshmen, but they're just really good.

765
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 4: They're well coached.

766
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 3: And you talked about how you love betting on teams

767
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 3: in the tournament that were really highly coveted coming into

768
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 3: the season. I like fading teams in the tournament that

769
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 3: really look good in their conference tournament. And that's what

770
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 3: Iowa State looked like, where you know, it's kind of

771
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 3: like it felt like going into the Big Twelve tournament Worm,

772
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 3: if we didn't have the Big Twelve Tournament, the brackets

773
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 3: were coming out in Iowa day was a two seed,

774
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 3: nobody would be interested, right, But you watch them dismantled

775
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 3: Texas Tech, you watch them go toe to toe with Arizona,

776
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 3: and now the bracket comes out, and I bet a

777
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 3: lot of people are thinking, you know, if I want

778
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 3: to get different and not pick Michigan, I think Iowa

779
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 3: State it's going to be my pick, right, I think

780
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 3: that's I think that's team I want to and I

781
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 3: love kind of fading that thought process, that logic. Ozilberger

782
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 3: has never been in the Elite eight either. His team's

783
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 3: kind of flame out in the Sweet sixteen. So I

784
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 3: think that's gonna be a really good game. I think

785
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 3: Virginia is gonna beat them. So I got Michigan Virginia

786
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 3: Elite eight, and again, I just I think they're Auburn

787
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 3: man where it's like Auburn's region last year, Like I

788
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 3: wanted to fade them, but there was nobody in that

789
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 3: region that I'm like, I don't think any of these

790
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 3: teams are gonna beat them. And I feel that way

791
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 3: about Michigan where I want to fade them. I want

792
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:31,919
Speaker 3: to pick them to get upset. I want to pick

793
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 3: them not to make the final four. I just don't

794
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 3: think these are the teams to deal with. So I

795
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 3: got them advance in Andy.

796
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I.

797
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: As we are talking through this, I think it's very

798
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: likely that I I'm just gonna have Arizona beating them

799
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: in the Final four. Like that is just like I

800
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: can almost write that in now because I like Arizona

801
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 1: so much and I don't like Michigan, but I don't

802
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: know who I would put ahead of them, So like,

803
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: I just think they're going to get there. And I

804
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 1: also think that Michigan is the is the one seed

805
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 1: that is going to be the most heavily faded by

806
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: the public, is just my guess, and so maybe kind

807
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: of fading the fade and having them get past some

808
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: like you talked about, like not like the Big Ten,

809
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: Like I know the ACC usually as well in the tournament,

810
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: but like it's not a good conference, Like like I

811
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: know UVA is a good team, and you know, we're

812
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,439
Speaker 1: legally obligated when talking about march Mann is to mention

813
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: that Ryan Odam was the coach of UMBC right the

814
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: greatest upset in history.

815
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 2: So I like he's a good coach and it's a

816
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 2: good team.

817
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: But it's not like they've been outside of the Duke games,

818
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: like have faced a ton of high, high level competition,

819
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: you know, in the last few months, and they're and

820
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: I mean you already hit on Iowa State. Yeah, I'm

821
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: just like, like Bama has a talent to outshoot anybody,

822
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: but like like you have been talking about, it's a

823
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: nightmare matchup if when you know when they face Michigan,

824
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 1: and it's hard to imagine them facing anybody button Michigan

825
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: in the Sweet sixteen.

826
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm like, like Tennessee, he's got some talent.

827
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: I talked about them a little on the Conference Turner preview,

828
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: but like, I don't I'm not picking them to win

829
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: multiple games, like I want to talk myself into it,

830
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: and I just struggling too, So it does kind of

831
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 1: feel like it's Michigan.

832
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 3: Tennessee is interesting because I do like their backcourt. I mean,

833
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 3: we obviously know Jacoby Gillespie and I think he's a

834
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 3: very good player. Nate Amens a lottery pick. I like

835
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 3: his game a lot but it's a Rick Barnes team, and.

836
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say yeah.

837
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 3: To talk about coaching, I mean trying to bet his

838
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 3: teams in the tournament. It's like, are you going to

839
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 3: get seventy five points out of Tennessee this game where

840
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 3: you're gonna get fifty five? Which Tennessee team are you

841
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 3: gonna get? So could they upset Virginia? Absolutely? I mean

842
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 3: Tennessee is one of the best rebounding teams in the country.

843
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 3: They're the best offensive rebounding team in the country. Like

844
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 3: that game will be a war for Virginia. And I

845
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 3: think that's how they beat teams in March, especially in

846
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 3: the tournament. Is their physicality really wears on people. And

847
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 3: when you have a backcourt as good as Gillespian ament like, yeah,

848
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 3: you can be some people.

849
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 4: So I can see Tennessee making an Elite eight run.

850
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 3: Problem is I just I think one of those offensive

851
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 3: duds are coming, one of those stinkers, Like I mean,

852
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 3: you know that Auburn game, they were struggling in the

853
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 3: first half, but Auburn is just not any good. So

854
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 3: they came back the Vanderbilt game, they couldn't shit. It's

855
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 3: just like it just feels like same old Tennessee. I

856
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 3: can't I can't do it. So I think Virginia gets

857
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 3: by them. I would understand anybody that wants to take

858
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 3: Iowa State to go to the Elite eight makes sense.

859
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 4: I just I don't know.

860
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 3: Man, I was Staates just it's the same kind of

861
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 3: feel with Tennessee, like you're just like, are you gonna

862
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 3: get eighty out of the cyclones?

863
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 4: You're gonna get fifty five? Like that offensive stinker is coming.

864
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: But I think there's a pretty reasonable chance that that

865
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: is the Sweet sixteen matchup, so one of them is

866
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: getting into the Elite eight if that, if that plays

867
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 1: out that way, like I Virginia is my least favorite

868
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: three and Tennessee is my favorite six, so I would agree,

869
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: I would. I think I will probably have that upset

870
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: because I definitely think Tennessee will be SMU or Miami,

871
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: so so yeah, I but then it's like, but I

872
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 1: don't want to pick them to make the Elite eight

873
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: because it just feels like a bridge too far. But

874
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 1: last thing, just like, I think I think Akron's gonna

875
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: be really popular twelve over five pick I mean those

876
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,720
Speaker 1: are always you know, whatever you already mentioned. High Point

877
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 1: is one you like there, but the twelve over five

878
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: is what everybody always looks at. Yeah, I don't think

879
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: we see it happening with Saint John's. You mentioned seeing

880
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: it happening with high Point. Any interest in kind of

881
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: going against the narrative of like, well we should pick

882
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 1: Akron because Tech doesn't have toppin or like do you

883
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: think there's a like is that a smart play?

884
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 2: Or do you think Tech will still pull it out?

885
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 3: No? Again, I mean, look, a theme of this preview

886
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 3: pod has been conferences, and it's been well talked about

887
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 3: how bad the MAC is. That's why at thirty one

888
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,959
Speaker 3: to oh Miami of Ohio was a discussion of whether

889
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 3: they get in. Akron far away the best team in

890
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 3: that league from a metric standpoint, but even they struggled.

891
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 3: Were all three of those games in the MAC Tournament

892
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 3: they were trailing, they struggled, they had come back and

893
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 3: win all those games. So now you gotta face the

894
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 3: team from the best league in college basketball, even though

895
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 3: they're without topping.

896
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 4: You know, in Texas Tech's a funny.

897
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 3: Team, like they're the kind of team that could always

898
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 3: get upset because of the three point variants. But I

899
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 3: think against Akron, a team that wants to play fast,

900
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 3: that wants to score. Third straight year, we've seen John

901
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 3: Gross's team in the tournament. They haven't put up too

902
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 3: much of a fight in these games. So I just

903
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 3: think Texas Tech is going to be too much. You know, nowadays,

904
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 3: with how popular sports betting is and how popular March

905
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 3: Madness is and all these sorts of things, it's usually

906
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 3: like that super super popular upset just doesn't really happen anymore.

907
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 4: And like you said, I think this is going to

908
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:39,720
Speaker 4: be one of the more popular ones.

909
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 1: We'll do one more region breakdown here for the South

910
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: and then run through some just rapid fire superlatives for

911
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 1: the tournament and get out of here. Florida, the defending champions,

912
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 1: are the one seed in the South. They were the

913
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 1: fourth one seed last year too, right, it was the

914
00:40:55,360 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: same correct? Yeah, lower left section the bracket, as I

915
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: recall number one, see Houston. The two seeds would be

916
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 1: a very interesting rematch there. Illinois great offense is the

917
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: three seed. Braska the four have never won a tournament game. Vanderbilt,

918
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: possibly underseeded, is the five, and of course they just

919
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: beat Florida in really impressive fashion. Carolina without Caleb Wilson

920
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,240
Speaker 1: is the six. You got Saint Mary's in here. Clemson,

921
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: Iowa is the eight to nine A and M is

922
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: in this region as well. To what degree are you

923
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: scared off by Florida getting blown out in the SEC

924
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: tournament because this is a team that was starting to

925
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: feel sort of similar to last year, where there was

926
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: they just got so much momentum and on such a

927
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: role that there was this air of inevitability. It wasn't

928
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 1: quite like those Yukon you know, teams that won every

929
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: tournament game by you know, double digit points or anything

930
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: like that. But it felt bored, even though they were

931
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 1: closer games. It felt really unlikely, Like it was hard

932
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: to imagine Florida losing last year.

933
00:41:58,440 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 2: They were starting to.

934
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: Have a muller feel, and then they get blown out

935
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: against you know, you know, against Vanderbilt in the conference tournament.

936
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: So does that scare you off? And if it does,

937
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 1: where are you pivoting in this region?

938
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 4: I mean, it has to scare you a little.

939
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 3: I think my opinion of Florida, I was probably gonna

940
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 3: look to fade them coming into the tournament even before

941
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 3: the SEC tournament started. This was a team that struggled

942
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 3: in the non conference earlier in the year. Now again

943
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 3: they brought in a completely new backcourt with Boogie Flann

944
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 3: and Xavian Lee. They had to figure that out, and

945
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 3: Todd Golden, one of the best young coaches we have

946
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 3: in college basketball, has figured that out for sure. But yeah,

947
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 3: I just the Gators, of all the one seeds, were

948
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 3: definitely the one I was looking to fade, and I

949
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 3: think getting out of SEC play was actually gonna hurt

950
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 3: them because Warham, as great as that team was last year,

951
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 3: and even though they ended up winning the national championship,

952
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 3: they could have easily lost. For the six games that

953
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 3: they won, Yukon had them in the round of thirty two.

954
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: Exactly like like if it felt inevitable, but like they

955
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: were close games, right, it wasn't a lot of blows,

956
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: so they just they had toft keep winning at the end.

957
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: And part of that is Golden being a good coach.

958
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: But yes, sorry I cut you off.

959
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 4: No, all good.

960
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 3: So they should have lost to Yukon in the round

961
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 3: of thirty two, could have lost texts. Technicallyite could have

962
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 3: lost Auburn in the Final four in Houston in the

963
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 3: title game. They didn't because they had a guy named

964
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 3: Walter Clayton. That role that they've been going on in

965
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 3: SEC play. They've won like every game by double digits.

966
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 3: They haven't had to play a close game, so we

967
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 3: haven't had to see any of those guards take over

968
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,959
Speaker 3: make clutch shots down the stretch. We're gonna we're gonna

969
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 3: have to see that. We're gonna have to see that

970
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 3: in March madnesson and I think that's where the downfall

971
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 3: is gonna be from Florida as terrific, as that front

972
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 3: court is as great as they were last year. I mean,

973
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 3: they played in a lot of close games, but because

974
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 3: of those guards in Clayton, they found ways to win.

975
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 3: They just don't have that same backcourt this year. So

976
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 3: that's why I'm looking to fade Florida this year. But

977
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 3: again the problem, I think this is the weakest region

978
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,479
Speaker 3: where I think the South is the weakest by far.

979
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean just just Nebraska as the four

980
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 1: seed alone, Like I will be my job will be

981
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: on the floor if you come in here and tell

982
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: me Nebraska as your pick to make the final four here.

983
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 1: So if you're fading Florida and Nebraska is they've never

984
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: won a tournament game, does that mean like Illinois Houston

985
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 1: is essentially the championship game of this region if those

986
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 1: two end up playing, Like, I'm just not even sure

987
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: who you want to come in here, Like Vanderbilt did

988
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,439
Speaker 1: just beat Florida, But I don't, you know, I don't

989
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: think you're I don't expect you to make the case

990
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 1: for them, So like, is it just whoever you like

991
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: more of you know, Houston's defense versus Illinois offense?

992
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 2: I mean, you you.

993
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: Know me PJ from a group texts with you and

994
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: me and our friend Joe Malfa. You know how I

995
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: feel about Brad Underwood. I will be very happy to

996
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 1: fade him in a tournament setting, which basically just leaves Houston, who,

997
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: similar to Duke, is kind of just a worse version

998
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 1: of the team last year. They're still very good, but yeah,

999
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: not quite as good as what they were last year.

1000
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: So like for me and I guess I'll just go

1001
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: first year. Like, my gut reaction is to go with

1002
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 1: Houston in this region. If I am getting scared off

1003
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: of Florida, I could see myself by the time we

1004
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: get to Thursday tip offs going back to Florida. I

1005
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 1: just putting faith in defending champs. But if I get

1006
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: scared off of them, I feel like it's Houston.

1007
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 3: I agree, and Houston was Houston was the team that was.

1008
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 3: I was kind of looking to fade too, But I

1009
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 3: mean you said it like Nebraska, come on, I mean,

1010
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 3: what are we doing Illinois?

1011
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 4: I am so out on Yes, that offense is terrific. Worm.

1012
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 3: They are the worst team in college basketball, dead last,

1013
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 3: the worst in forcing turnovers per game. They forced like

1014
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 3: seven a game. So when you're in a one and

1015
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 3: done setting and you know you're playing for your season

1016
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 3: forty minutes and you can't force any turnovers and get

1017
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 3: extra possessions. That's a big deal. Your offense is great,

1018
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 3: but there's gonna be some games when it's not and

1019
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 3: you got to find a way to win games other ways,

1020
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 3: and I don't trust them to do that. So I

1021
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 3: think VCU has a chance to go to the Sweet sixteen.

1022
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 3: You know, that's a tricky game. I think VCU is

1023
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 3: going to be a very popular upset because of the

1024
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 3: Caleb Wilson injury. That that's a tough game. That's a

1025
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 3: tough game. But I think the winner of that game

1026
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 3: is going to the sweet sixteen. I think the winner

1027
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 3: VCU Carolina beats Illinois. I'm going to take a flyer

1028
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 3: on a team to make a Final four that nobody

1029
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 3: is going to talk about. Nobody's talking about this team

1030
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 3: as a sleeper. But maybe I can I can sell

1031
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,720
Speaker 3: you a little bit on the Saint Mary's gals, where.

1032
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, I don't even know which

1033
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: team you're about to say.

1034
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 3: So Saint Mary's is the number one free throw shooting

1035
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:40,959
Speaker 3: team in college basketball. Their number thirteenth in three point percentage,

1036
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 3: their top five in rebounding, and their top twenty according

1037
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 3: to Ken Palm in defense, I mean that checks a

1038
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 3: lot of boxes. You shoot free throws well, you shoot

1039
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 3: threes well, you rebound well, you play defense well. Because

1040
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 3: Randy Bennett and the Gaels have not had much success

1041
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 3: in the tournament, nobody thinks anything of it.

1042
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 4: I don't know what the up odds are.

1043
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 3: I know before the tournament started because I had my

1044
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 3: eye on them, they were one hundred to one to

1045
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 3: make the final four. But the way that this region breaks,

1046
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 3: if they're able to beat Houston that plays a very

1047
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,720
Speaker 3: similar style to them, where it's at a slow pace,

1048
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 3: two defensive teams. If Houston has an off shooting night

1049
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 3: and Saint Mary's is able to shoot the ball, well,

1050
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 3: wouldn't shock me if they upset them. If they upset Houston,

1051
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 3: then then all of a sudden, we got a shot.

1052
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 3: Because again I'm not high on Illinois. Carolina's got the

1053
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 3: Wilson injury. VCU good eleven seed, but I think Saint

1054
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 3: Mary's takes care of business. Got Nebraska is the four,

1055
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 3: and then Vandy Florida towards the top. So you know,

1056
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 3: I think the Gators are going to go to the

1057
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 3: Elite eight. I don't think Vandy's gonna beat them again,

1058
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 3: and I think that's the team they end up matching

1059
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 3: within the sweet sixteen. But you know, Saint Mary's again,

1060
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 3: nobody's talking about him, and I didn't even consider them.

1061
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 3: But I was looking at certain stats the other day

1062
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 3: and I was looking at free throw percentage and I

1063
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 3: saw Saint Mary's was number one, and I'm like, oh,

1064
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 3: that's dry. Didn't realize they showed eighty one percent from

1065
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 3: the line. Then I was looking at three point percentage

1066
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 3: and I'm like, wow, Saint Mary's is thirteen. And it's

1067
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 3: just like they were toward the top all these categories.

1068
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 3: So I kind of think they're intriguing because again, you

1069
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 3: and I are in the similar boat where we like Houston,

1070
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 3: we don't love them, but just because of this region,

1071
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 3: we're kind of forced to probably pick them. Nobody is

1072
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 3: picking Saint Mary's worm so I again, it's it's a

1073
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 3: long shot for a reason, but they do a lot

1074
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 3: of things really well.

1075
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 1: You are already answered the question I was going to ask,

1076
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: which is because I think it's a really interesting case

1077
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 1: that you made for everything except the Houston part of it.

1078
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: And I was going to ask basically like, but can

1079
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: they be Houston like playing a similar style, It's an

1080
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: interesting case for how it could happen.

1081
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 3: I just.

1082
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, let

1083
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: me ask you this, just philosophically, a while we're talking

1084
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: about these matchups. Do you want to be the guy

1085
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: who has a picking your final four that makes people

1086
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: really raise their eyebrows or do you want to make

1087
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 1: the reasonable fades like, oh, instead of taking the one,

1088
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: I'll take the three. But like, I'm not going to

1089
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: go so far as to pick a seven seed to

1090
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: make it. Like, how do you approach trying to differentiate

1091
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:15,240
Speaker 1: in a large pool.

1092
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 3: I'm always the guy that want to wants to pick

1093
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 3: the things that nobody else does and hope that it

1094
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 3: turns out to be right.

1095
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 2: You know.

1096
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I never want to got want to be the

1097
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 3: guy that picks all the ones. I never want to

1098
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 3: be the guy that just goes all chalk like. I

1099
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 3: want to try and pick the upsets and see where

1100
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 3: they're coming. And you know what if it doesn't happen

1101
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 3: and we just get one versus two all over the

1102
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 3: place in the Elite eight, and we get all one

1103
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 3: seeds in the final four, then I'll lose my bracket

1104
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 3: pool and so be it.

1105
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: But and you'll and you'll enjoy the final four because

1106
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,879
Speaker 1: that'll be a really fun That's exactly That's exactly right.

1107
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,959
Speaker 3: So I definitely like having a little bit more fun

1108
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 3: with my brackets. I like picking up sets. I mean,

1109
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 3: we're all rooting for chaos at the end of the

1110
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 3: day to begin with, unless it's involving our teams that

1111
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 3: we're rooting for, So I yeah, I know, but that's

1112
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 3: it is. It is the tough balance when filling out

1113
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 3: a bracket of what are the stuff that you genuinely

1114
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 3: believe is going to happen versus how different are you

1115
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 3: going to be from everybody else, because you know people

1116
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 3: are going to have similar things. Even just talking with

1117
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 3: you and filling out our bracket, there are gonna be

1118
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 3: so many people that have the combo of Michigan, Arizona, Houston,

1119
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 3: Duke Michigan, Arizona, Houston, Yukon right, I mean, Perdue Michigan,

1120
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 3: Like it's all going to be the same, and it's

1121
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 3: never that way, even last year when it was all

1122
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 3: for one seeds. Wasn't popular because it was only the

1123
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 3: second time it ever happened, so it's tough. But I

1124
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 3: I just I think it shapes up really well for Houston.

1125
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 3: I think the South is the weakest region.

1126
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 2: Let me make a.

1127
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: Let ever remind people of the stat of Brad Underwood

1128
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: before we get off this region. He has outperformed his

1129
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: seed one time in the NCAA tournament as the coach

1130
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 1: of Illinois, and it was when he was a three

1131
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: seed who made the Elite eight. They beat Iowa State

1132
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 1: by three points a couple of years ago, was the

1133
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: two seed in the region. So tech a three seed

1134
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,399
Speaker 1: making the Elite eight is not that crazy. Technically, it's

1135
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: out performing the seed. It's the only time it's happened.

1136
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: Is other four tournament appearances in Illinois are at Illinois

1137
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: and again not again, but just you know, he's only

1138
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: made five tournaments because COVID was one of those years,

1139
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: so there would have been a sixth in there, didn't

1140
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 1: get the chance, but those other five Elite eight once

1141
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: has not gotten to the second round in any of

1142
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: those other times, or assume me the second weekend any

1143
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: of those other times it has been round two exits

1144
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: right and left. So that was a really long winded

1145
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: way of me saying he has not performed in March.

1146
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: And I have been fading him pretty much every year

1147
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: in the tournament and it's worked out.

1148
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 2: My favorite.

1149
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 1: But it's a fun offense, like Woggler is really good.

1150
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: You know, it's a weak region. They're actually seventh on

1151
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: ken Pom this year. They're like higher ranked to ken

1152
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: Pom than Purdue for example, than Yukon for example. So

1153
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: like they're not a bad team, but this is He's

1154
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: been a regular season merchant in the past, and don't

1155
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: I don't watch this team and think, oh, this is

1156
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: the year it's going to be different and he's gonna

1157
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 1: suddenly become They always say, like, you know, coaches can't

1158
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: wait in March until they do. I just don't feel

1159
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 1: like this is that team for Underwood.

1160
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 3: I'm totally with you. And back to Nebraska real quick

1161
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 3: for everybody listening. How can you not bet Troy in

1162
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 3: the first round. You're getting thirteen and a half points

1163
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 3: against the team that has never ever won a tournament game.

1164
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 2: It feels mean too.

1165
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 3: I mean, if Nebraska wins by fifteen to twenty points,

1166
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 3: tip the cap job, well done.

1167
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 4: I just I just don't think they're gonna make it easy. Man.

1168
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 3: Do you remember when Northwestern and it was a lot different.

1169
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 3: They were playing in an eight nine game against Vandy,

1170
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 3: But do you remember how stressful that game was?

1171
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 4: Out came down to wire.

1172
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 3: The kid on Vandy they had the lead, and he

1173
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 3: actually fouled with like ten seconds left, not realizing either

1174
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 3: the game was tired or they had a one point lead.

1175
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:57,919
Speaker 4: So that game came right down a wire.

1176
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 3: I just, I mean, when you playing basketball for that

1177
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 3: long you have won a tournament game, I just I

1178
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 3: have a hard time believing you're gonna be win by

1179
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 3: like fifteen points. So I will definitely be on Troy

1180
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 3: plus the points in that game.

1181
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: You know, if that game is not all close like those,

1182
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of clenched you know what,

1183
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: oh dirt like the pressure will be on. And then

1184
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 1: this team, like obviously they started twenty and oh they're

1185
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: six and six in their last twelve. Now, four of

1186
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 1: those six have come against Michigan, Illinois, and Purdue. Those

1187
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: are good teams, but it's not like they have been,

1188
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 1: you know, finishing the season strong.

1189
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 2: Here after their their hot start, So yeah.

1190
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 3: I.

1191
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,240
Speaker 1: Almost want to bet them, just because I know everybody

1192
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: will be betting against them, and just so strictly fade that.

1193
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: I just let everybody know you and I are going

1194
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: to be doing a lot of these shows throughout March,

1195
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 1: including some live shows on Twitch. You can get your

1196
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: college basketball Betting Edge live joining PJ and myself this

1197
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,720
Speaker 1: Saturday at eleven am Eastern on the Betting Pros YouTube

1198
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: channel at YouTube dot com slash Betting Pros. I believe

1199
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: it is also on Twitch. My understanding maybe they switch

1200
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: it to YouTube, and I'm not sure about that. The

1201
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: read does say YouTube, so we'll go with YouTube for now,

1202
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: and we'll double check that and be sure to let

1203
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: everybody know throughout the week where to find us. But yeah,

1204
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,280
Speaker 1: check out the YouTube channel and or Twitch for NCAA

1205
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: tournament picks and betting breakdowns. That's going to be Saturday

1206
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: at eleven am Eastern ahead of the second round, and

1207
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna do that again the following week. Time to

1208
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 1: be determined later as well. For the eliting. All right, PJ,

1209
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 1: let's go through some it's kind of rapid fire general

1210
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: questions I wanted to hit on here before we get

1211
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,919
Speaker 1: out of here. Now that we've done the region breakdowns,

1212
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: who would you say is your favorite dark horse that

1213
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 1: you can sort of paint a picture of their path

1214
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: to the final for a team that, you know, we

1215
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 1: just talked about all the teams that everybody's going to

1216
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: be picking. A team that not everybody's going to be picking,

1217
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: that you could make a case with the final four.

1218
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 2: You did already talk about Saint Mary's, So give me

1219
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 2: another one.

1220
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, Saint Mary's. I mean we talked about Saint John's.

1221
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 3: I think even though they are coached by Rick Betino,

1222
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,399
Speaker 3: because they're in Duke's region, I don't think a lot

1223
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 3: of people are going to pick them, and I think

1224
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 3: their path really sets up good for them. Northern Iowa

1225
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 3: that lines already bet up from nine and a half

1226
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 3: to eleven and a half. The Panthers play at one

1227
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 3: of the slowest paces. They're a good defense, but going

1228
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 3: up against those guards man and I just think that's tough.

1229
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 3: And then you know Patino formulating a game plan for

1230
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 3: Darren Peterson and Kansas, who doesn't really have a traditional

1231
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 3: point guard. I think that's a good matchup getting Duke

1232
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 3: potentially without Caleb Foster, and their point guard.

1233
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 4: I think's good.

1234
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 3: I also talked about how TCU could make a run,

1235
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 3: So those those would probably be my two dark horses

1236
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 3: where I think there is a chance the Duke could

1237
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 3: go down earlier, a lot earlier than people think, and

1238
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 3: we could get some chaos in that east region. We

1239
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 3: talked about like in Michigan. We talked about like in Arizona,

1240
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 3: it's really tough for me to see a dark horse

1241
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 3: making it out of that region. And we just talked

1242
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 3: about the South and how there really isn't anybody that

1243
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 3: we really kind of like outside of Houston all that much.

1244
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 3: So if you were looking for dark horses, I think

1245
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 3: TCU Saint John's probably be my two picks.

1246
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,399
Speaker 1: I think Saint John's might actually might be my genuine pick,

1247
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 1: not like just trying to paint a case for a

1248
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 1: dark horse.

1249
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 2: I think I might go with Saint John. I think

1250
00:55:58,760 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 2: I might want to think about that. Mark.

1251
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, give me a team that not enough people are

1252
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:03,720
Speaker 1: talking about right now.

1253
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 3: I think it's Gonzaga. I think it's Gonzaga again. I

1254
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 3: hate that they're in Arizona's region, but I they the

1255
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 3: just the offense defense thing is so fascinating to me.

1256
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 3: I like, you know, it's like Lincoln Riley as coaching

1257
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 3: USC and he's got a better defensive team than offense,

1258
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 3: like like you know what I mean, Like that, Like

1259
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 3: that's what it's like for like I mean truly, So

1260
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 3: imagine that. Imagine watching a Lincoln Riley team and they're

1261
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 3: a lead on defense and they're still good offensively, but

1262
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 3: they're better defensively, And it's like, what do I do

1263
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 3: with this? So I think you combine that to the

1264
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 3: fact that they're one of the oldest teams in college basketball.

1265
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 3: Tyane Grant Foster has been in college for a long time.

1266
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,879
Speaker 3: Graham has been there a while, and you know, Mark

1267
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,439
Speaker 3: Few for the last decade plus has had all these

1268
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 3: superstar guards and NBA players, and they really don't just

1269
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 3: have that this year. So the Zags I think aren't

1270
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 3: getting talked about enough. And I think they're so fascinating

1271
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 3: because it's not the flashy, sexy Gonzaga team, but it's

1272
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 3: a different kind of Zags team and and that makes

1273
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 3: it interesting and worm as we know, normally in sports,

1274
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 3: the teacher usually beats the student. So even though Tommy

1275
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 3: Lloyd has the better team and He's a heck of

1276
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 3: a coach in his own right. You know, there could

1277
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 3: be a chance that maybe Gonzaga could could get to

1278
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 3: the Final four. So I think people are sleeping on

1279
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:26,959
Speaker 3: the Zags. I don't think they'll talk about them enough.

1280
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: Give me some players who you think can make a

1281
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 1: name for themselves this month. It doesn't have to be

1282
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: like a totally out of the blue, obscure name nobody's

1283
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: heard of, but somebody who will kind of elevate themselves

1284
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: in the public conscious. They can be a star that

1285
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 1: kind of takes that step into superstardom. It can be

1286
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: it can be an obscure name who sort of becomes

1287
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: a household name. It doesn't have to be the you know,

1288
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: random guy who hits a bunch of three pointers for

1289
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: a mid major to upset the power five school.

1290
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 2: But whoever you think is going to make a name

1291
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 2: for themselves this month.

1292
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 3: So yeah, wellk again, if Saint Mary's potentially makes a run,

1293
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 3: I think Mikey Lewi is a guy that I would watch.

1294
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 3: It's a different guard than Saint Mary's has really had

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Speaker 3: in the past. You know, they just kind of get

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00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 3: their guards that are fundamentally sound players. They run the offense.

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Speaker 3: They play good defense, but he's kind of got some

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00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 3: one on one game to him. He's got some wiggle

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Speaker 3: to him. He can really shoot, and I think that's

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Speaker 3: why Saint Mary's their offense has been elevated, as we

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Speaker 3: were just talking about to previous years. So I think

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Speaker 3: Mikey Lewis on Saint Mary's would be a guy to

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Speaker 3: potentially watch. Going through the teams here, seeing if there

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00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 3: are anybody else on any of these other teams I

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00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 3: think could make some noise. I mean, again, like Texas Tech.

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00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 3: A lot of people I'm sure watch this team at NOVAM,

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00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 3: but Christian anders is one of my favorite point guards

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00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 3: in the country. And without topping, if they're able to

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00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 3: go on a run and beat some of these good

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00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 3: teams in front of him, it's gonna be because of

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00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 3: him and because he's just going on a Walter Clayton

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00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 3: like run and making big shots and winning these games

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Speaker 3: at the end for Texas Tech. So Christian Anderson, if

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00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 3: you haven't watched much college basketball, that is a guy

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00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 3: that I to keep an eye on. Another guy potentially.

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00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 3: I like TCU to beat Ohio State, but if the

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Speaker 3: Buckeys get past TCU, and maybe they're the team to

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00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 3: upset Duke. Bruce Thornton's a terrific guard for Ohio State

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Speaker 3: as well. You know, an upper classman. All this talk

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Speaker 3: about all these great freshman guards, but he's one of

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00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 3: the really good upper classman guards that we have in

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00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 3: college basketball. So he's He's another guy that I would watch.

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Speaker 3: Those three guards are probably the ones that stand out

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00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 3: to me.

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Speaker 1: Give me your most likely Cinderella, and I'll let you

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Speaker 1: define Cinderella however you'd like. It can be, you know,

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00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: a really low see that just makes Sweet sixteen. It

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00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 1: can be a kind of low seed that makes the

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00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 1: Final four, however you want to define it.

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Speaker 2: Giving your most likely Cinderella.

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Speaker 3: Most likely Cinderella, I'll give you two. I think South

1332
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 3: Florida the eleven seed or high point to twelve seed

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00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 3: would be two teams that I look at because I

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00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 3: like their path to potentially get to the second weekend.

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00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 3: South Florida Louisville. Again, they have not been able to

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00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 3: beat a good team all year. They're one of the

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00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 3: most overrated teams in the country.

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01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 4: All this hype. They do run an exciting offense.

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01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 3: They shoot a lot of threes, but they just don't

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01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 3: beat good teams South Florida. Their head coach, Brian Hodgson

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01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 3: comes from the NATOS coaching tree at Alabama. So when

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01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 3: you watch the Bulls play, it's a lot like when

1343
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 3: you watch Alabama play, fast tempo, a lot of threes.

1344
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 3: But they're good defensively, they're rugged, they're tough, and that's

1345
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 3: gonna be a heck of a game. And then I

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01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 3: think they got a good shot at beating Michigan State two.

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01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 3: High Point I think is a terrible matchup for Wisconsin.

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01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 3: A lot of people have been talking about how a

1349
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 3: Badgers or one of these teams could lose in the

1350
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 3: first round make the Final four, which is true.

1351
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 4: This is a bad matchup for them.

1352
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 3: With high Point as a twelve, the Panthers are one

1353
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 3: of the best mid major offensive teams in the country

1354
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 3: that shoot a lot of threes, make a lot of threes,

1355
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 3: and they're also one of the best defenses in the

1356
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 3: country at forcing turnovers. So when you're going up against

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01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 3: those guards Boyden, Blackwell and Wisconsin, they got some guys

1358
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 3: on the perimeter that can make life tough for them,

1359
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 3: pressure them and force them into some turnovers. So and

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01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 3: then again, if a high point gets past Wisconsin, you're

1361
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 3: dealing with a cuff, so they can throw some different

1362
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 3: guys at him that even though you can't stop acuff,

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01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 3: they'll definitely try and tear them out as much as

1364
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 3: they can wear them out.

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01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 4: So those would be the two Cinderells that look good.

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01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 1: Going back to South Florida real quick. Hodgson is going

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01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 1: to be coaching at a bigger school very soon. I

1368
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 1: think I think he's a.

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01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 4: Fair should pick up the phone as soon as they.

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01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 1: Absolutely should if they know what they're doing, which recent

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01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 1: history tells.

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01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 2: Us maybe they don't.

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01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: I'm glad you picked some double digits too, because, like

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01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 1: we always see, there's a double digit seed in the

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01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 1: Sweet sixteen.

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01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 2: HAPs like clockwork, we'll get out of here.

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01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 1: On Gut Reaction Final four picks, we we've been kind

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01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 1: of talking about it, but we're not beholding to these.

1379
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 1: We could change it between now on Thursday, but on

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01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: Sunday night as we record this, you are shooting from

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01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 1: the hip, you know, just like I said, kind of

1382
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: Gut Reaction Final four picks. I'll give you mine first.

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01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Saint John's in the East. I am

1384
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 1: gonna go Arizona in the West. The Midwest is probably

1385
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 1: my least favorite one to pick.

1386
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 2: I don't want to take Michigan, but I kind of.

1387
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 1: Feel forced to because I I can't take Virginia and

1388
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 1: you talk to me out of Ioways State, It's I'll

1389
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 1: say Michigan and then and then Houston, which which is

1390
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 1: too chalky, but I guess Saint John's is a little

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01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 1: bit different.

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01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 2: I'll go Saint John's and.

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01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 1: Houston, uh, and then Arizona and Michigan. As my gut

1394
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 1: check final four, here, what do you got?

1395
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 4: I got Arizona, Michigan, Houston, and Yukon. So we're we're very,

1396
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 4: very alike the SA.

1397
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 2: Three teams plus a big East team.

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01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 3: I hate it, but it's like, okay, So then do

1399
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 3: I put Saint Mary's there?

1400
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 4: Like am I really?

1401
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 3: Like? No, I'm not gonna do that. Like do I

1402
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 3: want to put Virginia and Iowa State? I really don't.

1403
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 3: So I know it's hard. A lot of people are

1404
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 3: gonna have the same kind of final four teams.

1405
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 4: It sucks. It's who's who's.

1406
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 1: The team in that final four scenario that you're most

1407
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 1: scared that, like they're going to burn you for leaving

1408
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 1: them off, because like I feel like Flora, I mean,

1409
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 1: it could be Duke just be like, hey, this is

1410
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 1: the best team in the country. It could before and

1411
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 1: I like, hey, defending champs, who were who were you know,

1412
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 1: really hot right up until one game where Vanderbilt shot

1413
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 1: like crazy.

1414
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 4: Who's thinking Za, Zaga, Perdu I think those.

1415
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 1: Produce a great call if man I Perdue would be

1416
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 1: in my final four if.

1417
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 2: They weren't in Arizona's region, Right, So.

1418
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have Arizona.

1419
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out, do I have Arizona on

1420
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 3: my bracket but bet a future on Gonzaga and Purdue

1421
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 3: to make the final four? Or do I pick Purduing

1422
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 3: and Zaga to go to the final four and bet

1423
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 3: a future on Arizona because it's like, you get the

1424
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 3: worst odds on Arizona and not as many people in

1425
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 3: your bracket are gonna have Purdua Zaga, right, Or do

1426
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 3: you put Arizona in there and get the better odds

1427
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 3: with Purduing and Zaga. I think That's how I'm probably

1428
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 3: gonna end up playing it. I tell you where I'm though.

1429
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 3: I just again like we couldn't have Gonzaga in like

1430
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 3: the South region. We couldn't have Purdue in like the

1431
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 3: Midwest region.

1432
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 1: Like that's that what you do in the South and

1433
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 1: Gonzaga in the Midwest.

1434
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,439
Speaker 2: This is a very different matter station.

1435
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, those would be the time.

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01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 1: All right, we'll go ahead and wrap up there. Like

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01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 1: I said, a whole lot more coming largely from here.

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01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 1: It will be more betting focused. We wanted to do

1439
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 1: kind of a bracket reaction here for Sunday night. Have

1440
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 1: some fun with everybody. If you want to get more

1441
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Speaker 1: of these shows. Largie will be over on the Betting

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01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 1: If you are interested, both on YouTube and on the

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Speaker 1: audio side, be sure to check out PJ also with

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01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 1: Game d Garage and Hoops in five with PJ Glasser.

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01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 2: PJ, thank you so much for coming on on till.

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Speaker 1: I know it's a late night for you, but it's

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01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,080
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Speaker 1: better than that. I appreciate you making the time.

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01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 3: talk to you again now talking again, so we'll talk.

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