Speaker 1: All right, let's get it going right here, right now.
Speaker 1: This is Eyes up Here, and you're listening to a
Speaker 1: brand new Eyes up Here exclusively on our Patreon channel
Speaker 1: as well as on the Creative Control Network. If you
Speaker 1: didn't know by now, my name is Chad, and every
Speaker 1: single week I am joined here by the one and
Speaker 1: only Queen of Extreme Francy. And I see your wobble.
Speaker 1: The stream of light, like a sign from above, has
Speaker 1: dropped as the Queen of Extreme joins us exclusively on
Speaker 1: Eyes up Here. I think it's from my window. It's annoying.
Speaker 1: It's like a light. Uh what's it called? Uh? Lightsaber? Oh, lightsaber.
Speaker 1: I thought you were trying to do like a dance
Speaker 1: move like. Oh yeah, it's freaking annoying me. Look it's
Speaker 1: on my face. Oh I hate it. How are you
Speaker 1: I'm doing? Okay? Yeah good, I'm good. How about how
Speaker 1: about y'all? We're good. You know. Only thing I did
Speaker 1: this week substantial was start at Christmas shopping okay, because
Speaker 1: there's a rumor going around that packages might be delayed
Speaker 1: by eight months, So I said, let me get my
Speaker 1: credit card ready and let's go. Does that scare you though? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it should, doesn't it scare you? I don't know, because
Speaker 1: I mean I listen to what they're saying. Obviously, you
Speaker 1: know I read what they're saying too, but taking everything
Speaker 1: with a grand cat, yeah, Like, I mean, the one
Speaker 1: thing I heard what there was a guy I saw
Speaker 1: on the news the other day. He was from a
Speaker 1: toy manufacturer distributor who said it's a little bit they're
Speaker 1: making it sound worse and that you'll get stuff. It's
Speaker 1: just not going to be cheap. It's not going to
Speaker 1: be on sale this year. It's going to be at
Speaker 1: full price. Oh. So that's where I've been like, all right,
Speaker 1: the demand is going to be from people like what
Speaker 1: you're saying, running to go get it right now, and
Speaker 1: being like, shit, I can't get that Barbie's dream House,
Speaker 1: you know, November tenth for eighty nine ninety nine. I've
Speaker 1: got to get it on October thirty first for one
Speaker 1: twenty nine ninety nine. So is there no Black Friday
Speaker 1: deals this year? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've been picking my kid's brains like
Speaker 1: what do you want? What do you want? And then
Speaker 1: I when they tell me, I put it in my
Speaker 1: cart On Amazon, and then I just yesterday I just said,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm going to bite the bullet. I'm
Speaker 1: going to buy this stuff because it's all in there,
Speaker 1: and it was like twenty things and I just did.
Speaker 1: And now I got seventeen packages upstairs because it was
Speaker 1: over night prime, and uh, I have to hide everything.
Speaker 1: And you know, because my son still believes in Santa Claus, well,
Speaker 1: I can sympathize. We're not going to we're not going
Speaker 1: to tell him yet, but uh, the girl, she knows
Speaker 1: the girls, the girl's hip to everything, but the boy, no,
Speaker 1: no clue. I can sympathize because I do as well.
Speaker 1: So you know, I believe in the I didn't just
Speaker 1: save a sweatshirt that I saw, you know, for scent
Speaker 1: of Liz and a clause brings that there you go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but uh yeah, so that's what I did. I started
Speaker 1: my Christmas shopping and I saw something. Are we are
Speaker 1: we going to go into our guest because I can
Speaker 1: save this for afternoon? Yes, please save it. Let me
Speaker 1: get the link over to him. Let's do that. Because
Speaker 1: I have a question when when we're done, before we
Speaker 1: we say goodbye, I have a question that I would
Speaker 1: like to ask you about Christmas and Christmas decorations. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna write it down because I'm sure you'll forget, absolutely forget.
Speaker 1: I have a sharpie and a piece of paper because
Speaker 1: all my other stuff is packed away. Sure I have
Speaker 1: never left in my printer. Okay, yeah, write that down
Speaker 1: and and we'll talk about it. Because I have a
Speaker 1: topic that I'd like to discuss without getting too political.
Speaker 1: But I would love to get political. Let's do it. Well,
Speaker 1: you know we can't. We can't do that on here.
Speaker 1: But I just want to get some thoughts and I
Speaker 1: would like to get political. Like I'm in the wrestling business.
Speaker 1: Political politics and wrestling are just not good. Not good.
Speaker 1: Why I'm so great? I'm better than this guy? Right?
Speaker 1: Why are I getting to push? Now? Do you need
Speaker 1: any coffee or anything? Because I'd love to get it
Speaker 1: for you? And have I told you how great you
Speaker 1: look today? Well, yeah, you know it happens. But I
Speaker 1: saw a clip of Jim Cornett and somebody asked him,
Speaker 1: who do you think the biggest ass kisser is in
Speaker 1: the history of wrestling? Oh, they were talking about people
Speaker 1: who were yes men to Vince mick Man. What did
Speaker 1: he answer? He said Kevin Done, Oh yeah, without a
Speaker 1: shadow of doubt, and Bruce Pritchard he threw it, Oh,
Speaker 1: now this is Kevin Done. Still work there, Yeah, Kevin Done,
Speaker 1: Rector of Television Operations, the Voice of God, as I
Speaker 1: was told he was the Voice of God. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what they said in the production studio. Voice of God. Unbelievable.
Speaker 1: I don't know. My God doesn't sound like Kevin Dunn.
Speaker 1: So oh, I wasn't. I wasn't saying that I'm doing
Speaker 1: the Jim Cornette impression of him. That's terrible, very funny though.
Speaker 1: He said, uh, you know, like there are times where
Speaker 1: he said, people relate a story to him about how
Speaker 1: bad he wants to be accepted by Vince. So he
Speaker 1: said that they were on the plane once and he
Speaker 1: was trying to, you know, get Vince's attention. He was
Speaker 1: trying to get him to respond to what he was saying,
Speaker 1: and he said, uh, talking about a female performer that
Speaker 1: she's good, but she needs tits right, because he thought
Speaker 1: that would pop Vince. It's like he's like, you're trying
Speaker 1: way too hard, buddy, Like we get it. Vince is
Speaker 1: as an alpha male and you want it. You want
Speaker 1: to appeal to his manly side. This is how the
Speaker 1: males act about female talent. So terrible though, like that's
Speaker 1: that sucks, Like what the hell? And then but he's
Speaker 1: been a teflon and untouchable for thirty five forty yeah,
Speaker 1: gotta be close to forty. I think he got there
Speaker 1: like nineteen eighty seven or something. I don't ever remember
Speaker 1: meeting him, So I'll send you the picture of Kevin
Speaker 1: Duncie what he looks like. You probably saw him backstage, Okay,
Speaker 1: I probably did through the Bucky Beaver. Again, that's just
Speaker 1: Jim Cornette's impression. I'm just doing Jim Cornette not nice.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't get along. Hey, did you
Speaker 1: hear Tony Kahan suffered a rib injury on a e
Speaker 1: W in a dark laughing? This is Dasha who just
Speaker 1: pointing out a story because I saw Vince McManus trending
Speaker 1: and I can't imagine why, but I will say, as
Speaker 1: we wait for our guests to pop up, dis feud
Speaker 1: between them is kind of heating up? Is it a
Speaker 1: real few? Is it? Well? I think Tony Cohn's being
Speaker 1: very like boisterous now and not like reserved Tony Kahan
Speaker 1: he was saying Ross sucked the other night. You know,
Speaker 1: he's like, it's starting to teeter totter into Eric Bischoff
Speaker 1: nineteen nineties territory. Now, is Vince McMahon responding, of course,
Speaker 1: not well, then guess who's winning, man, Vince McMahon, Because
Speaker 1: you don't acknowledge number two when you're number one. Never.
Speaker 1: That's why I don't get all these Twitter feuds, these
Speaker 1: crazy back and forth with these people. I know most
Speaker 1: of it's a work, but when it becomes a shoot,
Speaker 1: it's just like, dude, same thing with talent. When you
Speaker 1: get a hater and they retweet the hate and the
Speaker 1: you know, everybody attacks this one guy who has eight
Speaker 1: followers and blah blah blah, why even retweet it? Like
Speaker 1: you can comment, but why why why retweet it and
Speaker 1: give him the floor? Like get out of here? Or
Speaker 1: what about when the person who's getting ripped on acknowledges
Speaker 1: that they're getting ripped on, but like trying to play
Speaker 1: along with the joke, like is trying to make it
Speaker 1: like it doesn't bother them. No, that happens too. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I just think that if you have nothing
Speaker 1: nice to say, just get off Twitter. Instagram seems different
Speaker 1: to me. Instagram is like all pictures and can't really
Speaker 1: get it. On Instagram really get too much. All I
Speaker 1: see is you can reply like and double tap the message.
Speaker 1: When you reply, you can reply something hateful. I don't
Speaker 1: think I've really seen much hate on Instagram. On Instagram,
Speaker 1: I don't use Instagram that often because I'm not a
Speaker 1: selfie girl. I don't like taking pictures of myself. So
Speaker 1: what am I going to put up? I will say,
Speaker 1: people on Twitter, or excuse me, people on Instagram buy
Speaker 1: more than people on Twitter. Do that. Yes, I only
Speaker 1: have two hundred and fifty something followers on Instagram, and
Speaker 1: I have more sales from Instagram than I do in
Speaker 1: my entire duration of Twitter. I don't like Instagram because
Speaker 1: you can't put links up. It's very hard. I don't
Speaker 1: very hard. Just put a link and click it. Like Twitter.
Speaker 1: Put a link, click it, put put wherever you want.
Speaker 1: It's great for marketing, but Instagram, I can't stand it.
Speaker 1: And everybody on Twitter is cheap. Everybody on Instagram is
Speaker 1: ready to spend oh gosh. So there's a tip for
Speaker 1: anyone who's trying to make a couple extra buck skis
Speaker 1: out there. Well, that is me Insta girl. I can't
Speaker 1: I can't use I can't do links and stuff. And
Speaker 1: I put and then oh hell do you bully this?
Speaker 1: Well and copy and paste to put it in your
Speaker 1: the U r L and put it up there and
Speaker 1: then it'll take you to this. It's hard to copy
Speaker 1: and paste on there too. Well, then type it out
Speaker 1: Here we go. Our guest is ready to join. You'd
Speaker 1: like do your intro? Elijah Burke, come on down, because
Speaker 1: now I'm mad Instagram. Come on my friends, Elijah, Hi, honey,
Speaker 1: hey see what is going on? Are you giving me
Speaker 1: love eyes already? Who got you out? Over that? Girl?
Speaker 1: It's just me. It's people being cheap on social media.
Speaker 1: We got me high. Yeah, we were talking about Instagram
Speaker 1: and people being cheap and not buying stuff and not
Speaker 1: being able to post links. Yeah, everybody wants stuff free
Speaker 1: these days. I know it. I know it. But it's
Speaker 1: lovely to see you, by the way. Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: wanted to apologize. You know, we got the ten minute
Speaker 1: ruler rest Freddy got Well, it's it's it's eleven minutes
Speaker 1: for you, so you you will get the little slap
Speaker 1: on the wrist when I see you next time I
Speaker 1: saw my man twice. Last I saw you. What you
Speaker 1: got your coffee? And that's what happened. You got me
Speaker 1: scared with your message from Twitter, and so I was like,
Speaker 1: let me get everything together. And I tried to make
Speaker 1: sure how my cup of coffee, and I spilled it
Speaker 1: because I was Russian. Are you kidding? You spilled your
Speaker 1: dunkin Donuts with the lid, not the duncans. I'm all now,
Speaker 1: So I spilled my other coffee that I made because
Speaker 1: I can drink coffee all day. May I just say,
Speaker 1: your skin looks amazing. I thought I was looking kind
Speaker 1: of tan. And now with him on the screen, I
Speaker 1: look at Palace Casper. I'm really I'm really angry. Oh gosh.
Speaker 1: I saw you a couple of weeks ago and Fort Wayne,
Speaker 1: which was a delight. What did you think of that?
Speaker 1: That crowd? It was different. It's Indiana, you know, it's
Speaker 1: Fort Wayne, Indianapolis. It's Fort Wayne, which is like this big,
Speaker 1: a little very forgotten part of uh, you know, Indianapolis House.
Speaker 1: So it was great. It's always great just because you
Speaker 1: get the uh. The crowd was interesting, but certainly having
Speaker 1: all of you guys there. And you know, anytime I
Speaker 1: see you, I just freaking lose it. So I have
Speaker 1: why is that that? Does it go back to our
Speaker 1: first encounter? No, it goes not not not not w
Speaker 1: W E c W, No, it goes it goes back
Speaker 1: to the Sunshine Network. And and Chad just let me
Speaker 1: first allow Hope to say what up? Because Franny. You know,
Speaker 1: when me and Franny get in the run, it can
Speaker 1: be it can be one hundred people, it could be
Speaker 1: thirty of the boys. Nothing matters at that point in time.
Speaker 1: It's just like, I'm not even here. I just not.
Speaker 1: I'll laugh, I'll throw it a quip here and there, Paul,
Speaker 1: I see is the puslic I'm not here, I see.
Speaker 1: But uh, it goes back to the school Shine Network.
Speaker 1: Like I told you originally during w W E c
Speaker 1: W you know, I was, I was. I was man
Speaker 1: that I was in high school and maybe a little
Speaker 1: beyond or before that, and I'm watching you and I
Speaker 1: gotta say you upside down was always my favorite position. Uh,
Speaker 1: the power driver Tommy. Yeah, so so you know that
Speaker 1: is the memory. One of the memories that always stays
Speaker 1: in my head is him putting you up for the
Speaker 1: power Driver, but then just the queen of extreme, you know,
Speaker 1: coming through that curtain and through the interest way, and
Speaker 1: and when you're in there, you just got there's something
Speaker 1: that was always so innocent. There's nothing like a bad
Speaker 1: girl that comes across innocent. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I am dude. Yeah, So she had that whole innocent
Speaker 1: girl vibe even though she was presented and and played
Speaker 1: this vicious, you know, extreme queen that she was. And
Speaker 1: I just always dug it. I always dug her. I
Speaker 1: don't know. We just watched the clip of her jumping
Speaker 1: over a table onto Paul Hayman. So that wasn't very reserved.
Speaker 1: And and and the one thing that I teach when
Speaker 1: I'm doing some holding seminars and teaching now and the
Speaker 1: fighting evolutionaryst in Miami, Florida, I wish we had that
Speaker 1: type of realism. I should say, uh today with the women,
Speaker 1: I don't. And this is a credit to you and
Speaker 1: and uh Beulah McGillicuddy and and all the you know,
Speaker 1: the other mainstays that was there when I saw you
Speaker 1: guys go at it. Paul Hayman being such an evil
Speaker 1: genius that he is in his own way, he knew
Speaker 1: how to present a cat fight. I don't want to
Speaker 1: see women try to be men and a wrestling ring.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see It's okay. I understand when
Speaker 1: there's new day and age, women are athletic, they can
Speaker 1: do this. That great, But when I want there's nowhere
Speaker 1: in the world when you are on the street and
Speaker 1: popes from the streets. Okay, when when when women go
Speaker 1: at it, there's hair pulling, there's hair tugging, like there's
Speaker 1: a real fight. And you guys presented that at times
Speaker 1: with the sex appeal as well. And I remember in
Speaker 1: my backyard. I remember in my backyard of my home,
Speaker 1: my mom's home, dad's home, there was a cat fight
Speaker 1: going on. We were in the one to watch it.
Speaker 1: You know, the the g strings are all out who
Speaker 1: they are fall falling out. No, there was fighting over
Speaker 1: another dude, but it was in my backyard. Well, I
Speaker 1: thank you for the compliments. We're not here to talk
Speaker 1: about me. I want to talk about you. And so
Speaker 1: you mentioned Paul. I'm jumping ahead a little bit because
Speaker 1: you've been wrestling before two thousand and six, But what
Speaker 1: was your relationship like with Paul in the fake. Did
Speaker 1: you get to work with him a lot? There? I
Speaker 1: did work with Paul. Uh fake e W. It was
Speaker 1: the fake e c W. I can't. Yeah, we just
Speaker 1: called it w W E c W. That's that's our
Speaker 1: you know, that's what your originals call it. The fake.
Speaker 1: Ere you go, I'm sorry, no disrespect to anyone, but
Speaker 1: it was. Yeah, So I worked with Paul. Paul Paul
Speaker 1: is was and will probably always be a genius. And
Speaker 1: and by genius it doesn't necessarily from my take on Paul,
Speaker 1: it doesn't necessarily mean that all of his ideas are
Speaker 1: just money and great. No, no, no, genius means the
Speaker 1: worker in him Paul, and you probably got more of
Speaker 1: it than I. But Paul is a freaking word. Paul
Speaker 1: can talk the flesh off of a skeleton. Paul Hayman,
Speaker 1: you know, Paul Hayman can convince you that there's life
Speaker 1: after death, and he can convince you of having the hell,
Speaker 1: and then he'll convince you that hell's the better place
Speaker 1: to go to. We always say, he will tell you
Speaker 1: the sky is green and the grass is blue, and
Speaker 1: you'd be like, yes it is, because that's he just
Speaker 1: has that gift to Gaby people. People always told us
Speaker 1: that we were like zombies we did whatever, like puppets.
Speaker 1: They called us puppets were He was the puppet master
Speaker 1: and we were his puppets and stuff. But it was
Speaker 1: we believed in our products so much that we wanted
Speaker 1: to believe that what he said was gospel. Right. It
Speaker 1: wasn't that. Oh we drank the kool aid. I hate
Speaker 1: that rushing, but that's that's another thing that was always
Speaker 1: out there. You guys were so stupid because we weren't
Speaker 1: getting paid at the time, you know, but we were
Speaker 1: just so hopeful that something would click and that the
Speaker 1: company would be saved and whatever Paul told us was
Speaker 1: going to come true, which it didn't. But you know,
Speaker 1: we were his soldiers. So that was the bond. That
Speaker 1: was the you know, you guys were the outcast quote
Speaker 1: unquote promotion. Even from a fan watching like myself. You know,
Speaker 1: you guys were the little edge, and that could every
Speaker 1: time I thought about E. C W. I thought about
Speaker 1: that Christmas story, uh, with the Christmas Mischief, misfit toys,
Speaker 1: the Island of the Misfit Toys. That's what we called
Speaker 1: ourselves that and that's how that's how I envisioned h
Speaker 1: and it took somebody like Paul, you know, to make
Speaker 1: it work as far as pushing and encouraging you guys
Speaker 1: and motivating you guys. He he tried to bring that
Speaker 1: same aspect to WW E c W as well. Surely problem.
Speaker 1: Uh it wasn't this show true and problem? You know?
Speaker 1: So so so there were times when Paul can get
Speaker 1: you by yourself and motivate you. I remember when they
Speaker 1: sent him down to ob W and and and and
Speaker 1: you know when they took him. I want Paul on W,
Speaker 1: you know. So they sent him down to obi W
Speaker 1: Devins and I and I was working with him there
Speaker 1: before I got you know, uh, when they sent him
Speaker 1: down demoting him for SmackDown. So I worked with him
Speaker 1: in ob W before he went back up to e
Speaker 1: c W. And I remember Paul coming in and he's like,
Speaker 1: just I want you to go out there and and
Speaker 1: and just preach. Just there there are your congregation, there
Speaker 1: are your people, Go talk to them, Go be you
Speaker 1: and and and that's all, you know, the hands down
Speaker 1: pat Yeah. Yeah, So he's a great motivator. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: really is. He really is. So you were digging E
Speaker 1: c W as a kid, did you always know you
Speaker 1: wanted to be a wrestler? Like from Oh gosh, now
Speaker 1: you talk about E c W. I'm digging you, guys,
Speaker 1: because even when I went into law enforcement, uh I
Speaker 1: straight out of high school. I went there. I was
Speaker 1: an officer for ten excuse for five years. So yeah,
Speaker 1: and so when I came home here in Jacksonville, I
Speaker 1: come home, it's you know, midnight. I may have had
Speaker 1: my raw or you know, night showed me. I've had
Speaker 1: that recorded on the VCR, and by the time I
Speaker 1: get done with my shower and stuff, I may have
Speaker 1: fast forward and watched what I wanted to watch. Guess
Speaker 1: what's coming on at one or two am in the
Speaker 1: morning on the sub we had the worst time slots.
Speaker 1: It was great. I stayed up to watch it. You
Speaker 1: guys are coming on on the Sunshine Network at freaking
Speaker 1: one and two o'clock in the morning. Yeah, right out anyway,
Speaker 1: So okay, let me sit here and watch it. N
Speaker 1: w A man. And that's that's the other flip side.
Speaker 1: I grew up watching loving n w A and and
Speaker 1: here I am. N n w A had the opportunity.
Speaker 1: Dusty Dusty was my guy. Okay, everybody knows Dusty Rose. Yes,
Speaker 1: everybody knows his influence on me. I got a chance
Speaker 1: to work with him hands on in WWE. Yes. I
Speaker 1: remember when I walked in there with my suitcase and
Speaker 1: here comes the dream walking down, you know, through the corridor,
Speaker 1: and I just freeze. I'm right by catering. I freeze.
Speaker 1: It comes to dream. I'm like, Okay, what am I
Speaker 1: going to do? What am I going to say? How
Speaker 1: do I react? How do I respond? So as he
Speaker 1: got near me, I go, uh hey, dream, Elijah Burke,
Speaker 1: Nice to meet you. He goes, put that hand out
Speaker 1: the way. Boy, I know all about you. I love
Speaker 1: that you and now we're gonna make a lot of
Speaker 1: money together. And yeah, so to watch this guy, to
Speaker 1: be influenced by this guy. You know, we didn't have
Speaker 1: any black heroes at that time in wrestling, have any
Speaker 1: black world champions. Dusty Rose was the closest to a
Speaker 1: black world champion that a black guy had because of
Speaker 1: Sapphire is Rap. He had it, he had it down.
Speaker 1: Yeah when he said when he's when he said your
Speaker 1: hand reach out right now, your hand talked, Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: missing a point. Though Dusty was like a Southern Baptist. Yes,
Speaker 1: and you've been from up where you are, you probably
Speaker 1: wouldn't get that, you know, it probably wouldn't resonate with
Speaker 1: you the way that it does with us down here,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, So Dusty had that,
Speaker 1: and not just that he was charismatic. Dusty was influenced
Speaker 1: by Muhammad Ali as well, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So he he took a lot of Muhammad Ali's rap
Speaker 1: and applied it to his game. Okay, I see where
Speaker 1: you're coming from. I'm too sweet, baby power. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: you took all that stuff from Mhammad Ali. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: we resonated with dust Rose the American dream, the common man.
Speaker 1: We resonated with the fact, you know that he the
Speaker 1: whether you're black, whether you're white, you know, big or small,
Speaker 1: We we got it. And Dusty just had that connection,
Speaker 1: not just with one race, but with everybody. Everybody, brought
Speaker 1: everybody together. That's why he's so. Yeah. Absolutely, And he
Speaker 1: taught me the figure four because I had to do
Speaker 1: it too. Uh. We worked a program with him, and
Speaker 1: uh it was I think it was me Dreamer, somebody
Speaker 1: else I can't remember, Oh, maybe Terry funk I. I
Speaker 1: don't remember, and it was, uh no, it was me,
Speaker 1: it was and Dusty, but then it was Korea. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. It was weird. I was babycase so was.
Speaker 1: There are three of us against Krino, Jack Victory and
Speaker 1: somebody else. But we all did the figure fours in
Speaker 1: the ring and I had to give it to Steve Carrino.
Speaker 1: So before the show, Dusty took me in there let
Speaker 1: me do it to him a couple of times. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he was cute. He says, honey, you do it
Speaker 1: better than I do. And I was like, I don't
Speaker 1: think so, but thank you anyway. But he was great
Speaker 1: to work with. He was such a doll. So and
Speaker 1: then he was the guy that when I got up there,
Speaker 1: as I said, I remember, uh you know, I've never
Speaker 1: had a problem talking. You know. They brought me in,
Speaker 1: Actually they brought me up. I was going to be
Speaker 1: a member of the Spirit Squad. A lot of people
Speaker 1: don't know this news flash. You heard it here first. Man,
Speaker 1: that was a big deal because that was yeah, I
Speaker 1: remember that highly speculated back then. Yeah, I was going
Speaker 1: to be a member of the Spirit Squad. It was
Speaker 1: Vince McMahon's idea. My dear We're gonna make a lot
Speaker 1: of money, a lot of money, and I didn't take
Speaker 1: the offer. I declined. Everybody's telling you you're gonna make
Speaker 1: a lot of money, though, and everybody gave me a
Speaker 1: lot of hell, a lot of Wait a minute, you decline.
Speaker 1: Vince McMahon tells you, I want you to be on
Speaker 1: the Spirit and you say no, sir, thank you. Is
Speaker 1: that career suicide? In a way, That's what a lot
Speaker 1: of people thought. Okay, but but but here's the thing
Speaker 1: with Vince. He clearly told us it's my idea. I'm
Speaker 1: riding on my jet and I say to myself, what
Speaker 1: can draw? And all of a sudden, I thought male cheerleaders.
Speaker 1: Everybody hates male cheerleaders. He said, So this is not
Speaker 1: from the writing team. He's he's talking to us like this.
Speaker 1: It was only four of us. Not it wasn't five.
Speaker 1: It was four Me, Ken doone uh, Nick Nimick and
Speaker 1: Nick Mitchell. That was the four original for the Spirit
Speaker 1: Squad says, I don't want you to do it if
Speaker 1: you're not comfortable with it. But I'm telling you immediately
Speaker 1: you're finna make the most money you've ever made in
Speaker 1: your life. And those guys did. Here's the thing. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm an athletic black guy, but and I knew I
Speaker 1: was going to stand out. I knew I can work,
Speaker 1: and I was the only black guy, so I knew
Speaker 1: I was going to stand out. And I was not
Speaker 1: comfortable going out there and put your in a male cheerleader.
Speaker 1: And to those guys credit, you know, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: be running down, jumping off over trampoline and over the
Speaker 1: top rope and killed myself either. So gimmick was too
Speaker 1: silly or too corny for you. I mean, did you
Speaker 1: aspire to be something bigger that that? Too? Uh? It was?
Speaker 1: It was goofy, but it was gonna again he put
Speaker 1: money in front of us. It was a goofy gimmick.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking career longevity, okay, where you know I'm not.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be here for a minute. I
Speaker 1: want to have a career. I want to have a
Speaker 1: twenty plus year career and and be one of the greats.
Speaker 1: And I didn't see that as I saw it as
Speaker 1: a money making right now opportunity. But it was not something.
Speaker 1: I mean, nobody talks about the Spirit Squad today and
Speaker 1: they had they had lined multiple paper views with this McMahon.
Speaker 1: Immediately they second Vince McMahon when he fought Sean Michaels
Speaker 1: and god they went and won the title, they defeated
Speaker 1: and are lost to Rick Flair Roddy Piper. The gods
Speaker 1: were all over the place doing everything with Vic mn
Speaker 1: d X. But once it was done, they put him
Speaker 1: in a crate. Literally literally they put them on the crate.
Speaker 1: All must come to it end. Yeah, but still and
Speaker 1: that's and so they came to an end, and Elijah
Speaker 1: Burke began did you get heat for saying? No? Of course? Okay,
Speaker 1: of course? How long? Did I mean? Was it like?
Speaker 1: How long? One of the one of the top guys
Speaker 1: up there at the time, and and legendary and you know,
Speaker 1: I won't say his name now because I got to
Speaker 1: save it from a book. Okay, but later you know,
Speaker 1: you know, I was actually sharing this story with two
Speaker 1: of my good friends, Christmasters and JTG right behind you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was sharing when we were talking. And when we're
Speaker 1: in developmental, they pull you and have you drive to
Speaker 1: shows that were within hours of driving, you know, So
Speaker 1: like we were in Louisville, so I think it was Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: So we had to go to sense and or maybe Tennessee,
Speaker 1: but I believe it was Cincinnati hour and a half away.
Speaker 1: So and got there and asked customary. All the young
Speaker 1: guys got to go shake the main guy's hands, you know,
Speaker 1: certainly the main guy, you know, hey, thank you, thank
Speaker 1: you for being here, whatever. And I go to one
Speaker 1: of the guys not tak her, obviously not taking her,
Speaker 1: go to shake his hand and he goes all, okay, hey, uh,
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, what's going on? And he's like, you
Speaker 1: said no? Oh burn Like, like what you mean you
Speaker 1: said no? You said no, and you're still here. A
Speaker 1: lot of people don't get taken chances and you're still here, Like, well, hell,
Speaker 1: Dustin Rose is over there. This is like it's fourth run.
Speaker 1: What do you mean? Do yourself? But wait where you're
Speaker 1: smart too. There's two things in there that that are
Speaker 1: kind of funny. So you were replaced by Mitch in
Speaker 1: the Spirit Squad, who had nothing to do. No mean
Speaker 1: to cut you off, no, no, go ahead. I was
Speaker 1: replaced by two guys. It went from four guys to
Speaker 1: five guys. Okay, I was replaced by Johnny Jeter and okay, okay.
Speaker 1: So Mitch was already in the lineup. Yeah, so me
Speaker 1: saying no opened the door for the and they thanked me.
Speaker 1: You're lost, but they thank me. The other point was
Speaker 1: that when they threw him in the box, they threw
Speaker 1: a stamp on the side of it that says back
Speaker 1: to O b W. Well, yeah, and only two of
Speaker 1: those guys survived momentarily that was Kende, who still to
Speaker 1: this day. But then he was such a young prodigy. Uh,
Speaker 1: maybe didn't have the might skills that Vin's liked. Maybe
Speaker 1: didn't have necessarily. Look, the boy just was I love Kendo.
Speaker 1: He is so athletic guy. And and he they tried
Speaker 1: to give him a little singles run and and and
Speaker 1: then Dolph Ziggler. He's still kicking. He's still kicking. He
Speaker 1: went down, He stayed in the territory. He went left
Speaker 1: from ob W and got a new life, went to
Speaker 1: f c W at the time, which is down at Florida, Florida, Okay,
Speaker 1: and he just he stuck it out, reinvented himself, dyed
Speaker 1: his hair, got the dolphs signal character and his his
Speaker 1: talent could not be denied, even though even to this
Speaker 1: day it's suppressed. You probably don't even know that the
Speaker 1: man is a former world champion. Oh that to do that, Okay,
Speaker 1: they don't, they don't even acknowledge. But I understand what
Speaker 1: you're saying. But for me, like listening to your story,
Speaker 1: like I always had respect for you because I mean,
Speaker 1: we've been friends for a while and I admire your
Speaker 1: work and everything. This makes me respect you so much
Speaker 1: more because you don't hear a lot of people say no,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that because they're so scared of
Speaker 1: like losing their job or being black balls from the business.
Speaker 1: So you had the balls to tell Vince McMahon, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to do this. Yeah, respectfully absolutely. I mean
Speaker 1: that takes a lot of courage. So kudos to you. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, And I tell people include some of the
Speaker 1: guys that I've been in the ring with, you know,
Speaker 1: I was officer for five years, I boxed for three years.
Speaker 1: I got a record of one old I got I
Speaker 1: lost one time. I only lost one fight in my life. Okay,
Speaker 1: So from a fighting standpoint, I always tell people, don't
Speaker 1: get it twisted. Don't fuck with me, you know, because
Speaker 1: I will mess you up. I don't have a problem.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't have to get I didn't get
Speaker 1: the the bully and if you will love a JBL
Speaker 1: stories are yeah, yeah, because I just read Justin Roberts book.
Speaker 1: Holy he gave me the book three years ago, but
Speaker 1: I just read it on the plane to Fort Wayne
Speaker 1: because I forgot about it. To be honest, I will
Speaker 1: read you right away seriously. But it's a sad I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a sad story because Justin's one of the nicest
Speaker 1: people out there, and to read about the hazing and
Speaker 1: the bullying, like we had a discussion before. I don't
Speaker 1: understand why this needed to be done. I can. I
Speaker 1: can understand if you're being an asshole to somebody and
Speaker 1: this is going to be the way that they you know,
Speaker 1: they get you back for it. But if you're a
Speaker 1: nice kid and you're doing your job and you're respectful
Speaker 1: and you're a good work, why do you have to
Speaker 1: be haze like that? I think it was just a
Speaker 1: culture of rustling at It's just like it was very
Speaker 1: much so. And you know, it was a college atmosphere.
Speaker 1: We won't even talk about you, I know, I know,
Speaker 1: but I'm glad you didn't have to go through all
Speaker 1: of that. Well, I mean where I'm from, we say
Speaker 1: something like I wish up would you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: You wouldn't have taken that? Of course not. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, you can't walk around with your your
Speaker 1: your butt cheeks clinched, you know, because when you clinch
Speaker 1: your butt cheeks I do. Yeah. Well, well, when you
Speaker 1: clinch your butt cheets, your pants, your shorts, your skirt,
Speaker 1: your material is going to get caught up in between
Speaker 1: the cracks. Therefore everybody knows your butt cheats or clinched.
Speaker 1: The analogy there is you just got to be loose.
Speaker 1: Oh if you just said if you stay loose, but
Speaker 1: there's no challenge, there's no there's no there's no encouragement
Speaker 1: trying to go up in there. But when when you
Speaker 1: clinched and it's tight, it's like, okay, I got to
Speaker 1: get up in that right there. I'm learning so much today, right,
Speaker 1: And so that's what you did that. They did that
Speaker 1: to those who walked around with their you know, and
Speaker 1: they were just too uptight and whatnot. It's more so
Speaker 1: as a I don't I don't know justice issue not.
Speaker 1: I'm not justifying anything because I haven't read that book.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is I know that even in my
Speaker 1: days of coming up, you know, we did the same thing,
Speaker 1: not to a bullying degree, but you're gonna sell a
Speaker 1: joke to a guy to see how they take the joke,
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, that's breaking up. You know, that's you know,
Speaker 1: breaking the ice all the other stuff. I got in
Speaker 1: the ring with Bob Holly as soon as I got
Speaker 1: up there. We're in Australia or New Zealand, whichever it was.
Speaker 1: We're doing the SmackDown. Oh my, got my phones. We're
Speaker 1: doing the SmackDown ECW, sorry, smack Down e CW tour
Speaker 1: and we got this huge battle roll with SmackDown and
Speaker 1: Raw at e c W. And this is my first
Speaker 1: time in the ring with Bob Holly. You know what
Speaker 1: I did? As as as that battle roy your starts.
Speaker 1: I fight my way over to Bob Holly and I said,
Speaker 1: Bob shop me. Bob was beating up someone and he
Speaker 1: stops and goes and then the guy just leaves. He's
Speaker 1: like what Noah, He just leaves and and Bob freezes
Speaker 1: and he goes, what I said, chop me, and he
Speaker 1: goes all right, and he puts me in the corner
Speaker 1: and he gives me a chop. Right, it wasn't his
Speaker 1: best chop, but I sold it like a million dollars.
Speaker 1: And then I tried to leave and he goes come
Speaker 1: back another job, so I trying to go the other way.
Speaker 1: He grabs me again. You know those uh you know
Speaker 1: the scaffold things that they have around the rings with
Speaker 1: the lights when you're Yeah, I climbed up in the
Speaker 1: whole place. Pop. Now, now you may ask, well, why
Speaker 1: did you do that? It was because I was letting
Speaker 1: him know I can take what he gives me. I'm
Speaker 1: not afraid of him. Right, And afterwards did he come
Speaker 1: up to you? It was he loved it. He loved it.
Speaker 1: I know him all over the place. I was gonna
Speaker 1: pull over time and Dreamer and stands his issues up today.
Speaker 1: But he was my favorite E c W guy. But
Speaker 1: going back to the bullying aspect, Bully Ray Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I told you go in the woods, but I'll come
Speaker 1: back out where we going. Willy Ray comes to t
Speaker 1: NA okay, and him and and and uh, I'm a
Speaker 1: top baby face. We're gonna do a six man tag.
Speaker 1: They got their student Jesse and Neal with them. And
Speaker 1: I'm with homicide in that Morgan, but uh the other Hernandez.
Speaker 1: Thank you sir, So all three of us are going
Speaker 1: to take on those two. Those three, I get tagged
Speaker 1: in bulliard. This is my first time in the ring
Speaker 1: with Bully Ray. We lock up, we do a little
Speaker 1: something something, I think, but it all came down to that. No,
Speaker 1: we didn't even lock up. We still face to face
Speaker 1: and the crowd is chatting. Pimpinpin. You know what Bully
Speaker 1: Ray did. He slapped the piss out of me. You
Speaker 1: know what I did? Oh no, oh no, I sho
Speaker 1: I shoot double legged him, Oh you did wow? And
Speaker 1: I punched him at the top of his eye, one
Speaker 1: good punch. Well, I'm all look at that point, I'm
Speaker 1: three to four years professional and professional professional on TV.
Speaker 1: I know how this works. But you know when I
Speaker 1: double legged him and I hit him, I didn't. I
Speaker 1: mean I didn't again, nothing hard, but I hit him.
Speaker 1: You know what he was doing when I was on
Speaker 1: top of him, He was saying, you know why, because
Speaker 1: he was seeing where I was. He was testing me.
Speaker 1: After it was over with, look what you did to
Speaker 1: my eye? You set up a beat. I love he
Speaker 1: he loved it. He's like, I wish I can get
Speaker 1: other people to react to, you know, emotionally respond accordingly.
Speaker 1: I didn't stand there and wait for him say, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is what we're going to do after you just
Speaker 1: slapped the piss out of my mouth. No, I'm coming
Speaker 1: at you. He rolled out, and then we resigned. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's how you do it. That's how you do it. Well,
Speaker 1: now let me take it to today because you mentioned
Speaker 1: m w A and you were blowing it up sir.
Speaker 1: Oh by the way, he had to tell me in
Speaker 1: Fort Wayne that he was the main event. Forgot to
Speaker 1: mention that. I said, I said, hey, you working tonight,
Speaker 1: just very innocently, he just main event. I said, excuse,
Speaker 1: I'm sure where you were on the park you know?
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, it was it was more like in
Speaker 1: the room now with old friend and when she sees Pope,
Speaker 1: everything is Pope being sexy, you know, Is that what
Speaker 1: it is? No, it wasn't. It was like, yeah, main event,
Speaker 1: which meant that, and she's like, oh so long, you know,
Speaker 1: like I was like to go too. Yeah. I said,
Speaker 1: well I'm not booked on that, and the main event
Speaker 1: is going to go on a twelfth Pslater, he talks
Speaker 1: about n w A. Now, how did you get involved?
Speaker 1: Did you reach out to Billy? Did they reach out
Speaker 1: to you? No? Okay, what happened? I was I was
Speaker 1: sitting right here, okay here but home, and I was
Speaker 1: watching the first season of n WA Power. And again
Speaker 1: we're talking coming full circle as a kid sitting watching
Speaker 1: n w A Power Hour and watching Dusty Player arn
Speaker 1: and the TV title that I you know, I'm the
Speaker 1: sixth longest reign in the world television champion in the history,
Speaker 1: not the seventh, but the sixth. Six It means a
Speaker 1: lot because you got you got Tulldy Blancher at number one,
Speaker 1: excuse me, Paul Jones at number one, Tully Blanchet at
Speaker 1: number two, Mike Ratundo at number three, At Anderson number four,
Speaker 1: Steve Auston at number five, and oh yeah, I'm proud
Speaker 1: of that. You should be. And by mind is my
Speaker 1: mom's favorite wrestler. I just want to let you know, well, geez,
Speaker 1: I'm so cute and my mom's ninety one years old.
Speaker 1: Oh go ahead, please continue. So, so anyways to I'm
Speaker 1: watching NWA Power. I'm seeing this you know, one hour
Speaker 1: show on YouTube, and I'm just the only wrestling show.
Speaker 1: And I do my podcast post point of View with
Speaker 1: Elijah Burke. I'll get you on there soon. But I'm
Speaker 1: watching and I'm like, man, this is entertaining. This is wrestling.
Speaker 1: Is not all the skits and all of It's just
Speaker 1: wrestling the way that I remember wrestling being with a
Speaker 1: new school feel to it. It's old school wrestling with
Speaker 1: a new school feel. It's wrestling. And you'll get a
Speaker 1: dive maybe on the paper, view here and there. You know,
Speaker 1: you ain't getting all over the ropes and crazy. It's
Speaker 1: just wrestling. I loved it, and it was entertaining so
Speaker 1: much entertaining that I would sit and watching the commercials.
Speaker 1: The commercials were entertaining really Okay, yeah, because the commercials
Speaker 1: were their own in commercials, which were which was ridiculously funny. Okay,
Speaker 1: the city. You know, they would have like a Madam Ruby,
Speaker 1: come on and like get to w a power, I
Speaker 1: reach your future, like a flashback to whatever year it
Speaker 1: was they were recreating. No, they just created. They created
Speaker 1: it in an old school Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Right.
Speaker 1: It was great, and so I'm a fan. I'm watching it.
Speaker 1: It's the only wrestling at the time that I can
Speaker 1: sit and watch one without fast forwarding, without losing my
Speaker 1: attention span. And after the first season, I got a
Speaker 1: call from n W A say hey, and I'm like hey,
Speaker 1: like you know hey, They're like, so you're tied up
Speaker 1: or anything. I'm like, no, what do you think have
Speaker 1: you seen? And I'm like, yeah, I'll watch you guys.
Speaker 1: I love it. What do you think about coming to
Speaker 1: join us? No problem? Crazy part. It happens all the time,
Speaker 1: much like with WWE. When I was bought in. I
Speaker 1: was bought in to be the mouthpiece for Sevester Turkai.
Speaker 1: Se girl, I'm an interview. When you bring popol, you
Speaker 1: got somebody that can just talk. I need the palls
Speaker 1: and let you pitch your stuff. But I came in.
Speaker 1: I came in with Sylvester Turki to be his mouthpiece,
Speaker 1: his manager, okay, And then they're like, we're gonna put
Speaker 1: you in the ring. We're gonna put him outside the range.
Speaker 1: The same thing here I go to n WA. I'm
Speaker 1: just the mouthpiece. I'm supposed to be the manager, and somehow, someway,
Speaker 1: they always find a way to get me back in
Speaker 1: the ring because they know how talented you are. I
Speaker 1: appreciate that, and I mean if you sucked, you'd still
Speaker 1: be on the outside and with the micro from the Yeah,
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. That's what happened. I was a manager
Speaker 1: and COVID hit like, look, we want you to back
Speaker 1: in the ring. And now I got after having that
Speaker 1: fantastic run with the World Television Champion or the championship.
Speaker 1: Now I have the opportunity to become the second black
Speaker 1: man in the seventy three year history of the n
Speaker 1: WA to become the world's heavyweight champion. That's very exciting.
Speaker 1: That's mind body going to me. So when is there
Speaker 1: a pay per view coming up that you want to
Speaker 1: plug or what's going on? Well right now next week
Speaker 1: October twenty fourth, I don't know when you guys listen
Speaker 1: to this, but we're going to be an Oak Grove, Kentucky.
Speaker 1: We're going to be doing especially being an Oak Growth,
Speaker 1: Kentucky WA by enemies necessary. I'm won't be taking on
Speaker 1: one of your friends' sons. Kobe Carino. Oh my goodness, yes,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm you know. Kobe Carino. He's young, Like I said,
Speaker 1: he's he's brash, he's ahead of his class. Give him
Speaker 1: the whooping that Steve Corin should have on. Okay, I
Speaker 1: know Colby ever since he was a baby. That's yeah,
Speaker 1: and good kid. He's a good kid and a really
Speaker 1: funny quick story. Steve used to bring him on the
Speaker 1: roads sometimes and we'd be in the locker room, you know,
Speaker 1: and he'd be he is a little like one two
Speaker 1: years old, and I don't know why he was naked,
Speaker 1: but Colby was naked and he came over to me
Speaker 1: and he put his penis on my shoulder and I said, hey, now, son,
Speaker 1: he just started cracking up, laughing, and Colby was laughing,
Speaker 1: and uh, I don't know. I think i'd put a
Speaker 1: towel around the or something, but they started young. No,
Speaker 1: and now look at him. I remember when Kobe put
Speaker 1: his penis on my shoulder, and Sadman also did that
Speaker 1: when he was drunk in Pensacola, Florida. I was just
Speaker 1: about to say, you know how many people wish they
Speaker 1: were Coolbekarino at that time I just said excuse me,
Speaker 1: a little one. And then with Sammy and I I
Speaker 1: didn't even sell it. I said, sir, get that off
Speaker 1: me right now. He was so drunk he was, and
Speaker 1: it's on It's on DVD. It's when Samon gets naked
Speaker 1: in Pensacola, Florida. If you look it up, you're lying. No,
Speaker 1: he's naked in the center of the ring. He takes
Speaker 1: off all his clothes. He was bombed, he was obliviated,
Speaker 1: and he was started drinking. As soon as we got
Speaker 1: to the building. It was a house shell, you know.
Speaker 1: But his penis ended up here and I just saw.
Speaker 1: I said, get that off me right now, and he
Speaker 1: did and walked away. And I was just like, oh, listen,
Speaker 1: I love I do do I don't love his penis
Speaker 1: on my shoulder. I agree. I'm just saying, like, you
Speaker 1: have the opportunity to work with you guys. First, let
Speaker 1: me finished his books Necessary October twenty fourth, and Oak
Speaker 1: Grog and then Hard Times Too, Hot Times Pay per
Speaker 1: View NWA December the fourth, in Atlanta, GA. I don't
Speaker 1: know what the plans are. I know there's one man
Speaker 1: that runs the show literally, and we're grateful for him.
Speaker 1: His name is Billy Cogan. So to have Billy Cogan,
Speaker 1: you know, just making his own decisions, that's great. I
Speaker 1: have the title opportunity that I can cash in at anytime.
Speaker 1: I'm beginning to feel like hot times is going to
Speaker 1: be that time for yours truly might be the time
Speaker 1: to catch that ticket in it might be. So there
Speaker 1: you guys go and we'll do another round and taping
Speaker 1: as well. But let me talk about Hack real quick
Speaker 1: before I talk back to you. Girl. You hack Tommy Dreamer,
Speaker 1: who was my again, we both loved dream I didn't
Speaker 1: know he was a dream guy and that's why he
Speaker 1: became Dreamer. But I loved Tomy Dreamer. He actually hired
Speaker 1: me to w W. How about that first crazy Ye
Speaker 1: you never know who you're gonna work with in this vies,
Speaker 1: know this my favorite c W guys who hired me.
Speaker 1: I have worked with you Rob Van Damn good old
Speaker 1: Balls and Mahoney who love balls in uh knew Jack
Speaker 1: They worked with him but had but me and him
Speaker 1: were like cool every time we came from each other.
Speaker 1: And the list goes on. So to be in there
Speaker 1: with you, guys, Sabu, you know who was just as
Speaker 1: crazy then as he was back when, it is truly
Speaker 1: an honor. And to have a respected friendship with you
Speaker 1: as well, who always brings out the boy and me
Speaker 1: like Gosh always I'm not lying to you. You best black.
Speaker 1: Pope's a big boy now you are, sir, and and
Speaker 1: Pope's growing by the minute, breaking his milk and taking
Speaker 1: his vitamins. And I'm glad you took it that way,
Speaker 1: and I hope everybody else did. That's the only Well. Yes,
Speaker 1: I much love to you, girl. I have nothing you are.
Speaker 1: Let me shut the story for your fans, and then
Speaker 1: I'm going to shut up. When me and Francine started, gosh,
Speaker 1: it's two hours already. When me and Francine started with
Speaker 1: UH working together in W W E c W, and
Speaker 1: I met her around the ring. It was my first
Speaker 1: time introducing myself to Francine at ringside. That's when we
Speaker 1: first met. Remember, oh, don't worry, you know, tell it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And she she was she was a little bit I
Speaker 1: don't want I don't know if you were shyre, just
Speaker 1: being because of the environment up there. It was I
Speaker 1: just no, no, not shot for me, I mean shot period. Yes.
Speaker 1: So I came around. I'm like, it's Francine, I'm finna
Speaker 1: go talk to her. I want to introduce myself. And
Speaker 1: I went to shake your hand because they would getting
Speaker 1: some entering stuff together with the girls and you had
Speaker 1: to be out there see them so and so and
Speaker 1: you turned around. He was like, and your eyes are
Speaker 1: those big eyes? Just hi, okay, nice to meet you.
Speaker 1: And I just it just melted me on the inside.
Speaker 1: I've know, it just melted me, like your your look
Speaker 1: like it's just like, okay, I'm here. I don't know
Speaker 1: what this is. I know what it is, but I
Speaker 1: don't know what this place is. It's not my E
Speaker 1: c W. But I want to make it work. And
Speaker 1: I tried. I don't know who you are, but nice
Speaker 1: to meet you. But it was so Yeah, it made
Speaker 1: my day. And so every time I come into your
Speaker 1: presence I feel like it's two thousand and six seven
Speaker 1: all over again. Oh God, you adorable. I can't I
Speaker 1: can't like it. You don't try me. Don't push me.
Speaker 1: I just said popes ain't no homebreaking, But don't push me. Girl,
Speaker 1: you are. I can't give me some plugs. Where can
Speaker 1: people find you? Well? Hey, guys, hey, listen, I'm behaving
Speaker 1: here because I'm on camera, going to full Pope mode
Speaker 1: when I get friend see over on post Front of
Speaker 1: You podcasts with Elijah Bird, which you can find wherever
Speaker 1: it is you listen to your podcast at Apple, Spotify, Centure, Spreaker,
Speaker 1: Our Heart Radio, Google Play, and the list goes on.
Speaker 1: You can also catch up with your boy on Twitter
Speaker 1: and Instagram at the Black Pope that's at DA not
Speaker 1: the Dull Black. I hope you can follow me on
Speaker 1: Facebook as well, Facebook, dot Com, Slash, Elijah Burke, and
Speaker 1: I got Twitch coming soon. But you guys will be
Speaker 1: updated on all of that and real quick. Your charity,
Speaker 1: that's where your boy was going. Thank you, Franny. My
Speaker 1: charity's tenth year anniversary is actually coming up January the eighth.
Speaker 1: We will be celebrating serving the community of Jacksonville for
Speaker 1: ten years. This is our big annual event and we
Speaker 1: follow up our again. We feed people, fran We don't
Speaker 1: feed them out of a brown paper bag. We don't
Speaker 1: feed them out of a soup truck, no man. We
Speaker 1: go down to Burger King in the center of the
Speaker 1: homeless community in Jacksonville, and we ordered straight out of
Speaker 1: Burger King. Well, we got three, four or five hundred
Speaker 1: people only you know, any given day, lined up and
Speaker 1: we feed them the stuff that sometimes we take for granted,
Speaker 1: because you know, I've seen people eat half of a
Speaker 1: burger and then throw it in the trash. And I
Speaker 1: saw a man walking to that same trash, pull that
Speaker 1: bag and he ate it. That's when I started my charity.
Speaker 1: That's when I said, you know, we got we can
Speaker 1: do better. We can do better. So tick the anniversar
Speaker 1: is gonna be January the eighth. Guys, you can head
Speaker 1: over to love dashallive dot org and you can learn
Speaker 1: all about my charity. You can see what Pope's doing
Speaker 1: in the community. You can also donate on that very
Speaker 1: same website. One dollar help makes the difference. We just
Speaker 1: want to be the change that we wish to see
Speaker 1: in the world. And if you want to see it,
Speaker 1: because I make sure you guys see where your money go.
Speaker 1: You can go over to Pope TV and just scroll
Speaker 1: through and you'll see some of the love a lot
Speaker 1: of charity advance. You'll see the people line up, whether
Speaker 1: the homeless or not, if they stand in line for hours,
Speaker 1: they need it. We give it clothes, shoes, hygiene products,
Speaker 1: book bag for kids filled with essentials to he them
Speaker 1: achieve academic success. And then this goes off. I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it. That's the one thing I said when
Speaker 1: I get him on the show. I have to talk
Speaker 1: about that charity because it's wonderful what you guys are
Speaker 1: doing down there, and I'm I'm just so proud of you.
Speaker 1: You're you're doing everything. You got it all going on
Speaker 1: right now, and you look good doing it, kiddo. So
Speaker 1: kudos to my friend Elijah. I love it when you
Speaker 1: call me, when you calliddo, little Elijah, good talk with
Speaker 1: nw A. It's like you're will saying daddy, thank you.
Speaker 1: You know, I hate that daddy. We were talking about.
Speaker 1: We did a sex quiz because we do Patreon the extras,
Speaker 1: you know, and we get a little a little more
Speaker 1: raunchy on the other shows that we do right, because
Speaker 1: you have to pay for those. And the word daddy
Speaker 1: makes me cringe. I don't like it. You make your
Speaker 1: women call you daddy. No, no, no, daddy, that's d
Speaker 1: a e e h daddy. Yeah, isn't it the same thing? No? No,
Speaker 1: it's not different. How is it different? Well, Well, because
Speaker 1: daddy is is a paternal term and a sexual term.
Speaker 1: Pope says daddy to everybody. Oh, daddy is more of
Speaker 1: a slang. That never said that to me. That's what Yeah,
Speaker 1: no a girls, daddy, little girls come up, give me
Speaker 1: some dab daddy. You know that's what that's what does
Speaker 1: That's what it must be because I live up here
Speaker 1: and you're down there. You don't. You don't get pope.
Speaker 1: You get a lodge. You see. I get okay, I
Speaker 1: get the real, the real stuff. If you got Pope,
Speaker 1: you walk different. All right, This was a treat. Thank
Speaker 1: you for coming on and for only being eleven minutes late.
Speaker 1: I appre she ate it. And when you want me
Speaker 1: to come on over and do your stuff, let me know,
Speaker 1: keep in touch. But I do love you and I
Speaker 1: wish you the best of lot. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Sell you all right? Same here by buddy, And there
Speaker 1: goes the Pope. Did he just say nice meeting you?
Speaker 1: Do you think he remembered me from twenty fifteen with
Speaker 1: a J Brown forgettable? Well it was audio. You know.
Speaker 1: He's great. You can't forget he's great. That's so funny
Speaker 1: there when he saw me in Fort Waite. He always
Speaker 1: runs over to me wherever I am. It's so cute.
Speaker 1: He always runs over. And there was an orange cone
Speaker 1: like a work cone underneath Kevin Sullivan's table. And when
Speaker 1: he was coming he didn't see the cone and he goes, oh,
Speaker 1: it's razy, it's racy, and he right over and he
Speaker 1: fell over. Jeez, he didn't fall to the ground, but
Speaker 1: he kind of tripped over the cone. It's just like,
Speaker 1: calm down, I'm ready. Did he do a graceful bump?
Speaker 1: Did he pop up? He didn't take a bump, but
Speaker 1: he kind of his foot got I got caught on
Speaker 1: the cone coming over to see me because the Pope pimpin.
Speaker 1: He's great. He's great, and I love the charity work
Speaker 1: that he does and I'm very happy for his n
Speaker 1: w A stuff, very very cool. Well we will, yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll cover the other thing next week. There's no time,
Speaker 1: no time to follow up with it. We don't follow
Speaker 1: up next week, so we're good with that. We don't
Speaker 1: follow up a great interview with filler, so we'll put
Speaker 1: the filler to the other day. But before we say goodbye,
Speaker 1: let's just talk about what's going on on Patreon. Uh
Speaker 1: this week. Like you said, I will go over him
Speaker 1: out of order. But like you just said to the Pope,
Speaker 1: one of the things that we did were looking at
Speaker 1: ten qualities of a good lover. I held my ears
Speaker 1: because I hate that word and I don't know. This
Speaker 1: was fun. It's a it's a good it's a list.
Speaker 1: We go over and we break it down. We give
Speaker 1: our two cents. Damn yeah, with ever ones we feel
Speaker 1: are good. How about this one? I thought this was hilarious.
Speaker 1: I think you will enjoy it as well. Kind of
Speaker 1: drink is fran scene? Who knows? A blast and a can? Maybe?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I am a party waiting to happen.
Speaker 1: Pot is here some sunny delight? Maybe delight? Am I
Speaker 1: a juice box? A caprice son? Maybe? Maybe? And then
Speaker 1: for our watch along we go over to ECW moments
Speaker 1: very very cool, one of them very historic, the other
Speaker 1: one just a really cool brawl, but nonetheless great commentary
Speaker 1: by the Queen of Extreme. And that's all on patreon
Speaker 1: dot com, slash franccene podcast. If you want to follow me,
Speaker 1: it's at Chad E and B on Twitter. On Instagram
Speaker 1: it's at IB Exclusives. As I've already said, that is
Speaker 1: where people spend the money. So if you want to
Speaker 1: spend money, come over to Instagram. Now. I will plug
Speaker 1: one show that I am on this week. As we
Speaker 1: listen to that, Oh, let me guess what it is.
Speaker 1: Do I know it? Would you like the guests just
Speaker 1: go right ahead? Is it? Get My Go? I'm not
Speaker 1: only plugging Get My Go, I am plugging the greatest
Speaker 1: episode of Get My Go and Get My Get goes
Speaker 1: fifty three episode history. This was an absolute pleasure to record.
Speaker 1: It was the funniest, funniest thing I've ever put in
Speaker 1: audio or video form. The chemistry, the comedic timing of
Speaker 1: the group for this recording was off the charts. And
Speaker 1: if you want to see the just absolute decimation of
Speaker 1: a group doing a video against Vince Russo, the Get
Speaker 1: My Go crew steps up and it is quite the
Speaker 1: entertaining watchin This guy who had some sort of connection
Speaker 1: to Russo at some point did a show completely trying
Speaker 1: to trash. But what he does is he has this
Speaker 1: panel of guys that have nothing to do with whatever
Speaker 1: the beef is, and when he gives them their time
Speaker 1: to talk, they're all they do is start bringing up
Speaker 1: what Vince did on WCW television as a character, and
Speaker 1: that's what they're killing him for. Like he made himself
Speaker 1: the WCW champion and he didn't even get in the
Speaker 1: ring to defend it. It was unbelievable. The greatest episode
Speaker 1: of a podcast I think I've ever recorded. So on YouTube,
Speaker 1: Get my Go, Get my Go. If you want to
Speaker 1: follow me and you're not across the board, you can
Speaker 1: follow me at ECW and Diva Francine and with that
Speaker 1: that is a rep