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Speaker 1: All right, let's get it going right here, right now.

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Speaker 1: This is Eyes up Here, and you're listening to a

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Speaker 1: brand new Eyes up Here exclusively on our Patreon channel

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Speaker 1: as well as on the Creative Control Network. If you

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Speaker 1: didn't know by now, my name is Chad, and every

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Speaker 1: single week I am joined here by the one and

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Speaker 1: only Queen of Extreme Francy. And I see your wobble.

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Speaker 1: The stream of light, like a sign from above, has

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Speaker 1: dropped as the Queen of Extreme joins us exclusively on

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Speaker 1: Eyes up Here. I think it's from my window. It's annoying.

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Speaker 1: It's like a light. Uh what's it called? Uh? Lightsaber? Oh, lightsaber.

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Speaker 1: I thought you were trying to do like a dance

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Speaker 1: move like. Oh yeah, it's freaking annoying me. Look it's

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Speaker 1: on my face. Oh I hate it. How are you

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Speaker 1: I'm doing? Okay? Yeah good, I'm good. How about how

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Speaker 1: about y'all? We're good. You know. Only thing I did

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Speaker 1: this week substantial was start at Christmas shopping okay, because

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Speaker 1: there's a rumor going around that packages might be delayed

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Speaker 1: by eight months, So I said, let me get my

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Speaker 1: credit card ready and let's go. Does that scare you though? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it should, doesn't it scare you? I don't know, because

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Speaker 1: I mean I listen to what they're saying. Obviously, you

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Speaker 1: know I read what they're saying too, but taking everything

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Speaker 1: thing I heard what there was a guy I saw

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Speaker 1: toy manufacturer distributor who said it's a little bit they're

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Speaker 1: making it sound worse and that you'll get stuff. It's

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Speaker 1: just not going to be cheap. It's not going to

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Speaker 1: be on sale this year. It's going to be at

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Speaker 1: full price. Oh. So that's where I've been like, all right,

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Speaker 1: the demand is going to be from people like what

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Speaker 1: you're saying, running to go get it right now, and

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Speaker 1: being like, shit, I can't get that Barbie's dream House,

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Speaker 1: you know, November tenth for eighty nine ninety nine. I've

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Speaker 1: deals this year? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I've been picking my kid's brains like

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Speaker 1: what do you want? What do you want? And then

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Speaker 1: I when they tell me, I put it in my

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Speaker 1: cart On Amazon, and then I just yesterday I just said,

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Speaker 1: going to buy this stuff because it's all in there,

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Speaker 1: and it was like twenty things and I just did.

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Speaker 1: And now I got seventeen packages upstairs because it was

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Speaker 1: And you know, because my son still believes in Santa Claus, well,

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Speaker 1: I can sympathize. We're not going to we're not going

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Speaker 1: the girls, the girl's hip to everything, but the boy, no,

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Speaker 1: no clue. I can sympathize because I do as well.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I believe in the I didn't just

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Speaker 1: of Liz and a clause brings that there you go. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but uh yeah, so that's what I did. I started

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Speaker 1: save this for afternoon? Yes, please save it. Let me

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Speaker 1: get the link over to him. Let's do that. Because

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Speaker 1: I have a question when when we're done, before we

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Speaker 1: like to ask you about Christmas and Christmas decorations. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna write it down because I'm sure you'll forget, absolutely forget.

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Speaker 1: I have a sharpie and a piece of paper because

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Speaker 1: and and we'll talk about it. Because I have a

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Speaker 1: you know we can't. We can't do that on here.

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Speaker 1: Political politics and wrestling are just not good. Not good.

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Speaker 1: Why I'm so great? I'm better than this guy? Right?

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Speaker 1: Why are I getting to push? Now? Do you need

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Speaker 1: he answer? He said Kevin Done, Oh yeah, without a

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Speaker 1: now this is Kevin Done. Still work there, Yeah, Kevin Done,

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Speaker 1: Rector of Television Operations, the Voice of God, as I

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Speaker 1: I don't know. My God doesn't sound like Kevin Dunn.

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Speaker 1: So oh, I wasn't. I wasn't saying that I'm doing

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Speaker 1: the Jim Cornette impression of him. That's terrible, very funny though.

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Speaker 1: that would pop Vince. It's like he's like, you're trying

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Speaker 1: way too hard, buddy, Like we get it. Vince is

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Speaker 1: as an alpha male and you want it. You want

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Speaker 1: to appeal to his manly side. This is how the

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Speaker 1: males act about female talent. So terrible though, like that's

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Speaker 1: that sucks, Like what the hell? And then but he's

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Speaker 1: been a teflon and untouchable for thirty five forty yeah,

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Speaker 1: like nineteen eighty seven or something. I don't ever remember

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Speaker 1: Duncie what he looks like. You probably saw him backstage, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I probably did through the Bucky Beaver. Again, that's just

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Speaker 1: Jim Cornette's impression. I'm just doing Jim Cornette not nice.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't get along. Hey, did you

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Speaker 1: pointing out a story because I saw Vince McManus trending

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Speaker 1: he was saying Ross sucked the other night. You know,

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Speaker 1: nineteen nineties territory. Now, is Vince McMahon responding, of course,

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Speaker 1: not well, then guess who's winning, man, Vince McMahon, Because

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Speaker 1: you don't acknowledge number two when you're number one. Never.

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Speaker 1: That's why I don't get all these Twitter feuds, these

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Speaker 1: of it's a work, but when it becomes a shoot,

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Speaker 1: it's just like, dude, same thing with talent. When you

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Speaker 1: get a hater and they retweet the hate and the

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Speaker 1: you know, everybody attacks this one guy who has eight

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Speaker 1: followers and blah blah blah, why even retweet it? Like

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Speaker 1: you can comment, but why why why retweet it and

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Speaker 1: give him the floor? Like get out of here? Or

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Speaker 1: what about when the person who's getting ripped on acknowledges

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Speaker 1: don't know. I just think that if you have nothing

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Speaker 1: nice to say, just get off Twitter. Instagram seems different

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Speaker 1: to me. Instagram is like all pictures and can't really

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Speaker 1: get it. On Instagram really get too much. All I

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Speaker 1: see is you can reply like and double tap the message.

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Speaker 1: When you reply, you can reply something hateful. I don't

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Speaker 1: think I've really seen much hate on Instagram. On Instagram,

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Speaker 1: I don't use Instagram that often because I'm not a

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Speaker 1: what am I going to put up? I will say,

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Speaker 1: people on Twitter, or excuse me, people on Instagram buy

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Speaker 1: my entire duration of Twitter. I don't like Instagram because

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Speaker 1: you can't put links up. It's very hard. I don't

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Speaker 1: very hard. Just put a link and click it. Like Twitter.

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Speaker 1: Put a link, click it, put put wherever you want.

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Speaker 1: It's great for marketing, but Instagram, I can't stand it.

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Speaker 1: And everybody on Twitter is cheap. Everybody on Instagram is

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Speaker 1: ready to spend oh gosh. So there's a tip for

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Speaker 1: out there. Well, that is me Insta girl. I can't

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Speaker 1: like do your intro? Elijah Burke, come on down, because

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Speaker 1: now I'm mad Instagram. Come on my friends, Elijah, Hi, honey,

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Speaker 1: It's just me. It's people being cheap on social media.

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Speaker 1: We got me high. Yeah, we were talking about Instagram

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Speaker 1: and people being cheap and not buying stuff and not

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Speaker 1: being able to post links. Yeah, everybody wants stuff free

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Speaker 1: these days. I know it. I know it. But it's

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Speaker 1: lovely to see you, by the way. Yeah, I just

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Speaker 1: wanted to apologize. You know, we got the ten minute

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Speaker 1: ruler rest Freddy got Well, it's it's it's eleven minutes

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Speaker 1: for you, so you you will get the little slap

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Speaker 1: saw my man twice. Last I saw you. What you

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Speaker 1: got your coffee? And that's what happened. You got me

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Speaker 1: scared with your message from Twitter, and so I was like,

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Speaker 1: sure how my cup of coffee, and I spilled it

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Speaker 1: because I was Russian. Are you kidding? You spilled your

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Speaker 1: dunkin Donuts with the lid, not the duncans. I'm all now,

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Speaker 1: So I spilled my other coffee that I made because

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Speaker 1: I can drink coffee all day. May I just say,

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Speaker 1: your skin looks amazing. I thought I was looking kind

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Speaker 1: of tan. And now with him on the screen, I

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Speaker 1: look at Palace Casper. I'm really I'm really angry. Oh gosh.

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Speaker 1: I saw you a couple of weeks ago and Fort Wayne,

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Speaker 1: which was a delight. What did you think of that?

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Speaker 1: That crowd? It was different. It's Indiana, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: Fort Wayne, Indianapolis. It's Fort Wayne, which is like this big,

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Speaker 1: So it was great. It's always great just because you

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Speaker 1: get the uh. The crowd was interesting, but certainly having

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Speaker 1: why is that that? Does it go back to our

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Speaker 1: to the Sunshine Network. And and Chad just let me

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Speaker 1: of people thought. Okay, but but but here's the thing

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00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: with Vince. He clearly told us it's my idea. I'm

423
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 1: riding on my jet and I say to myself, what

424
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 1: can draw? And all of a sudden, I thought male cheerleaders.

425
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 1: Everybody hates male cheerleaders. He said, So this is not

426
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: from the writing team. He's he's talking to us like this.

427
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: It was only four of us. Not it wasn't five.

428
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: It was four Me, Ken doone uh, Nick Nimick and

429
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 1: Nick Mitchell. That was the four original for the Spirit

430
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: Squad says, I don't want you to do it if

431
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: you're not comfortable with it. But I'm telling you immediately

432
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: you're finna make the most money you've ever made in

433
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 1: your life. And those guys did. Here's the thing. You know,

434
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: I'm an athletic black guy, but and I knew I

435
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 1: was going to stand out. I knew I can work,

436
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: and I was the only black guy, so I knew

437
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 1: I was going to stand out. And I was not

438
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: comfortable going out there and put your in a male cheerleader.

439
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: And to those guys credit, you know, I'm not gonna

440
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: be running down, jumping off over trampoline and over the

441
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 1: top rope and killed myself either. So gimmick was too

442
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: silly or too corny for you. I mean, did you

443
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: aspire to be something bigger that that? Too? Uh? It was?

444
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: It was goofy, but it was gonna again he put

445
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: money in front of us. It was a goofy gimmick.

446
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: I'm thinking career longevity, okay, where you know I'm not.

447
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,479
Speaker 1: I don't want to be here for a minute. I

448
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: want to have a career. I want to have a

449
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 1: twenty plus year career and and be one of the greats.

450
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: And I didn't see that as I saw it as

451
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: a money making right now opportunity. But it was not something.

452
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: I mean, nobody talks about the Spirit Squad today and

453
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 1: they had they had lined multiple paper views with this McMahon.

454
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: Immediately they second Vince McMahon when he fought Sean Michaels

455
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: and god they went and won the title, they defeated

456
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 1: and are lost to Rick Flair Roddy Piper. The gods

457
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 1: were all over the place doing everything with Vic mn

458
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: d X. But once it was done, they put him

459
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: in a crate. Literally literally they put them on the crate.

460
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: All must come to it end. Yeah, but still and

461
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: that's and so they came to an end, and Elijah

462
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 1: Burke began did you get heat for saying? No? Of course? Okay,

463
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 1: of course? How long? Did I mean? Was it like?

464
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: How long? One of the one of the top guys

465
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: up there at the time, and and legendary and you know,

466
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 1: I won't say his name now because I got to

467
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: save it from a book. Okay, but later you know,

468
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: you know, I was actually sharing this story with two

469
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: of my good friends, Christmasters and JTG right behind you. Yeah,

470
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: I was sharing when we were talking. And when we're

471
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: in developmental, they pull you and have you drive to

472
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: shows that were within hours of driving, you know, So

473
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: like we were in Louisville, so I think it was Cincinnati,

474
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: So we had to go to sense and or maybe Tennessee,

475
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: but I believe it was Cincinnati hour and a half away.

476
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: So and got there and asked customary. All the young

477
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: guys got to go shake the main guy's hands, you know,

478
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: certainly the main guy, you know, hey, thank you, thank

479
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: you for being here, whatever. And I go to one

480
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: of the guys not tak her, obviously not taking her,

481
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: go to shake his hand and he goes all, okay, hey, uh,

482
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, what's going on? And he's like, you

483
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: said no? Oh burn Like, like what you mean you

484
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: said no? You said no, and you're still here. A

485
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: lot of people don't get taken chances and you're still here, Like, well, hell,

486
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: Dustin Rose is over there. This is like it's fourth run.

487
00:29:54,320 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: What do you mean? Do yourself? But wait where you're

488
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: smart too. There's two things in there that that are

489
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: kind of funny. So you were replaced by Mitch in

490
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: the Spirit Squad, who had nothing to do. No mean

491
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: to cut you off, no, no, go ahead. I was

492
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: replaced by two guys. It went from four guys to

493
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: five guys. Okay, I was replaced by Johnny Jeter and okay, okay.

494
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: So Mitch was already in the lineup. Yeah, so me

495
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: saying no opened the door for the and they thanked me.

496
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: You're lost, but they thank me. The other point was

497
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: that when they threw him in the box, they threw

498
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: a stamp on the side of it that says back

499
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: to O b W. Well, yeah, and only two of

500
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: those guys survived momentarily that was Kende, who still to

501
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: this day. But then he was such a young prodigy. Uh,

502
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: maybe didn't have the might skills that Vin's liked. Maybe

503
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: didn't have necessarily. Look, the boy just was I love Kendo.

504
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: He is so athletic guy. And and he they tried

505
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: to give him a little singles run and and and

506
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: then Dolph Ziggler. He's still kicking. He's still kicking. He

507
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: went down, He stayed in the territory. He went left

508
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: from ob W and got a new life, went to

509
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: f c W at the time, which is down at Florida, Florida, Okay,

510
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: and he just he stuck it out, reinvented himself, dyed

511
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,719
Speaker 1: his hair, got the dolphs signal character and his his

512
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: talent could not be denied, even though even to this

513
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: day it's suppressed. You probably don't even know that the

514
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: man is a former world champion. Oh that to do that, Okay,

515
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: they don't, they don't even acknowledge. But I understand what

516
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: you're saying. But for me, like listening to your story,

517
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: like I always had respect for you because I mean,

518
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: we've been friends for a while and I admire your

519
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: work and everything. This makes me respect you so much

520
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: more because you don't hear a lot of people say no,

521
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that because they're so scared of

522
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: like losing their job or being black balls from the business.

523
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: So you had the balls to tell Vince McMahon, I'm

524
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: not going to do this. Yeah, respectfully absolutely. I mean

525
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: that takes a lot of courage. So kudos to you. Well,

526
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: you know, And I tell people include some of the

527
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: guys that I've been in the ring with, you know,

528
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: I was officer for five years, I boxed for three years.

529
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: I got a record of one old I got I

530
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:45,719
Speaker 1: lost one time. I only lost one fight in my life. Okay,

531
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: So from a fighting standpoint, I always tell people, don't

532
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: get it twisted. Don't fuck with me, you know, because

533
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: I will mess you up. I don't have a problem.

534
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't have to get I didn't get

535
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: the the bully and if you will love a JBL

536
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: stories are yeah, yeah, because I just read Justin Roberts book.

537
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: Holy he gave me the book three years ago, but

538
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: I just read it on the plane to Fort Wayne

539
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: because I forgot about it. To be honest, I will

540
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: read you right away seriously. But it's a sad I mean,

541
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: it's a sad story because Justin's one of the nicest

542
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: people out there, and to read about the hazing and

543
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: the bullying, like we had a discussion before. I don't

544
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: understand why this needed to be done. I can. I

545
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: can understand if you're being an asshole to somebody and

546
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: this is going to be the way that they you know,

547
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: they get you back for it. But if you're a

548
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: nice kid and you're doing your job and you're respectful

549
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: and you're a good work, why do you have to

550
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: be haze like that? I think it was just a

551
00:33:55,520 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: culture of rustling at It's just like it was very

552
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: much so. And you know, it was a college atmosphere.

553
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: We won't even talk about you, I know, I know,

554
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: but I'm glad you didn't have to go through all

555
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: of that. Well, I mean where I'm from, we say

556
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: something like I wish up would you know what I'm saying,

557
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 1: You wouldn't have taken that? Of course not. But at

558
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: the same time, you can't walk around with your your

559
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: your butt cheeks clinched, you know, because when you clinch

560
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: your butt cheeks I do. Yeah. Well, well, when you

561
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 1: clinch your butt cheets, your pants, your shorts, your skirt,

562
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: your material is going to get caught up in between

563
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: the cracks. Therefore everybody knows your butt cheats or clinched.

564
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 1: The analogy there is you just got to be loose.

565
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 1: Oh if you just said if you stay loose, but

566
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 1: there's no challenge, there's no there's no there's no encouragement

567
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: trying to go up in there. But when when you

568
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: clinched and it's tight, it's like, okay, I got to

569
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 1: get up in that right there. I'm learning so much today, right,

570
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 1: And so that's what you did that. They did that

571
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: to those who walked around with their you know, and

572
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 1: they were just too uptight and whatnot. It's more so

573
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: as a I don't I don't know justice issue not.

574
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 1: I'm not justifying anything because I haven't read that book.

575
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is I know that even in my

576
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: days of coming up, you know, we did the same thing,

577
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: not to a bullying degree, but you're gonna sell a

578
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: joke to a guy to see how they take the joke,

579
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, that's breaking up. You know, that's you know,

580
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: breaking the ice all the other stuff. I got in

581
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,439
Speaker 1: the ring with Bob Holly as soon as I got

582
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: up there. We're in Australia or New Zealand, whichever it was.

583
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: We're doing the SmackDown. Oh my, got my phones. We're

584
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,439
Speaker 1: doing the SmackDown ECW, sorry, smack Down e CW tour

585
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: and we got this huge battle roll with SmackDown and

586
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,439
Speaker 1: Raw at e c W. And this is my first

587
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: time in the ring with Bob Holly. You know what

588
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: I did? As as as that battle roy your starts.

589
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 1: I fight my way over to Bob Holly and I said,

590
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 1: Bob shop me. Bob was beating up someone and he

591
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: stops and goes and then the guy just leaves. He's

592
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: like what Noah, He just leaves and and Bob freezes

593
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: and he goes, what I said, chop me, and he

594
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: goes all right, and he puts me in the corner

595
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: and he gives me a chop. Right, it wasn't his

596
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: best chop, but I sold it like a million dollars.

597
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: And then I tried to leave and he goes come

598
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: back another job, so I trying to go the other way.

599
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: He grabs me again. You know those uh you know

600
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: the scaffold things that they have around the rings with

601
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: the lights when you're Yeah, I climbed up in the

602
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 1: whole place. Pop. Now, now you may ask, well, why

603
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: did you do that? It was because I was letting

604
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: him know I can take what he gives me. I'm

605
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: not afraid of him. Right, And afterwards did he come

606
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: up to you? It was he loved it. He loved it.

607
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 1: I know him all over the place. I was gonna

608
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: pull over time and Dreamer and stands his issues up today.

609
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: But he was my favorite E c W guy. But

610
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: going back to the bullying aspect, Bully Ray Okay, yeah,

611
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 1: I told you go in the woods, but I'll come

612
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: back out where we going. Willy Ray comes to t

613
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: NA okay, and him and and and uh, I'm a

614
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 1: top baby face. We're gonna do a six man tag.

615
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: They got their student Jesse and Neal with them. And

616
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 1: I'm with homicide in that Morgan, but uh the other Hernandez.

617
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: Thank you sir, So all three of us are going

618
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: to take on those two. Those three, I get tagged

619
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: in bulliard. This is my first time in the ring

620
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: with Bully Ray. We lock up, we do a little

621
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: something something, I think, but it all came down to that. No,

622
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: we didn't even lock up. We still face to face

623
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: and the crowd is chatting. Pimpinpin. You know what Bully

624
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: Ray did. He slapped the piss out of me. You

625
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: know what I did? Oh no, oh no, I sho

626
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: I shoot double legged him, Oh you did wow? And

627
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: I punched him at the top of his eye, one

628
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: good punch. Well, I'm all look at that point, I'm

629
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:16,280
Speaker 1: three to four years professional and professional professional on TV.

630
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: I know how this works. But you know when I

631
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: double legged him and I hit him, I didn't. I

632
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Speaker 1: mean I didn't again, nothing hard, but I hit him.

633
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Speaker 1: You know what he was doing when I was on

634
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: top of him, He was saying, you know why, because

635
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: he was seeing where I was. He was testing me.

636
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: After it was over with, look what you did to

637
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: my eye? You set up a beat. I love he

638
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: he loved it. He's like, I wish I can get

639
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 1: other people to react to, you know, emotionally respond accordingly.

640
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: I didn't stand there and wait for him say, Okay,

641
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: this is what we're going to do after you just

642
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 1: slapped the piss out of my mouth. No, I'm coming

643
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: at you. He rolled out, and then we resigned. Okay,

644
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 1: that's how you do it. That's how you do it. Well,

645
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: now let me take it to today because you mentioned

646
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,760
Speaker 1: m w A and you were blowing it up sir.

647
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: Oh by the way, he had to tell me in

648
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: Fort Wayne that he was the main event. Forgot to

649
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 1: mention that. I said, I said, hey, you working tonight,

650
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: just very innocently, he just main event. I said, excuse,

651
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: I'm sure where you were on the park you know?

652
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, it was it was more like in

653
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:44,760
Speaker 1: the room now with old friend and when she sees Pope,

654
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: everything is Pope being sexy, you know, Is that what

655
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: it is? No, it wasn't. It was like, yeah, main event,

656
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: which meant that, and she's like, oh so long, you know,

657
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: like I was like to go too. Yeah. I said,

658
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 1: well I'm not booked on that, and the main event

659
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: is going to go on a twelfth Pslater, he talks

660
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: about n w A. Now, how did you get involved?

661
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: Did you reach out to Billy? Did they reach out

662
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: to you? No? Okay, what happened? I was I was

663
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: sitting right here, okay here but home, and I was

664
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: watching the first season of n WA Power. And again

665
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 1: we're talking coming full circle as a kid sitting watching

666
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: n w A Power Hour and watching Dusty Player arn

667
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: and the TV title that I you know, I'm the

668
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: sixth longest reign in the world television champion in the history,

669
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: not the seventh, but the sixth. Six It means a

670
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: lot because you got you got Tulldy Blancher at number one,

671
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: excuse me, Paul Jones at number one, Tully Blanchet at

672
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: number two, Mike Ratundo at number three, At Anderson number four,

673
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: Steve Auston at number five, and oh yeah, I'm proud

674
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: of that. You should be. And by mind is my

675
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: mom's favorite wrestler. I just want to let you know, well, geez,

676
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: I'm so cute and my mom's ninety one years old.

677
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: Oh go ahead, please continue. So, so anyways to I'm

678
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: watching NWA Power. I'm seeing this you know, one hour

679
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: show on YouTube, and I'm just the only wrestling show.

680
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: And I do my podcast post point of View with

681
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: Elijah Burke. I'll get you on there soon. But I'm

682
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: watching and I'm like, man, this is entertaining. This is wrestling.

683
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: Is not all the skits and all of It's just

684
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: wrestling the way that I remember wrestling being with a

685
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: new school feel to it. It's old school wrestling with

686
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 1: a new school feel. It's wrestling. And you'll get a

687
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: dive maybe on the paper, view here and there. You know,

688
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 1: you ain't getting all over the ropes and crazy. It's

689
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: just wrestling. I loved it, and it was entertaining so

690
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: much entertaining that I would sit and watching the commercials.

691
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 1: The commercials were entertaining really Okay, yeah, because the commercials

692
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: were their own in commercials, which were which was ridiculously funny. Okay,

693
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 1: the city. You know, they would have like a Madam Ruby,

694
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Speaker 1: come on and like get to w a power, I

695
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: reach your future, like a flashback to whatever year it

696
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: was they were recreating. No, they just created. They created

697
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: it in an old school Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Right.

698
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 1: It was great, and so I'm a fan. I'm watching it.

699
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: It's the only wrestling at the time that I can

700
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: sit and watch one without fast forwarding, without losing my

701
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: attention span. And after the first season, I got a

702
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: call from n W A say hey, and I'm like hey,

703
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: like you know hey, They're like, so you're tied up

704
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: or anything. I'm like, no, what do you think have

705
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: you seen? And I'm like, yeah, I'll watch you guys.

706
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: I love it. What do you think about coming to

707
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 1: join us? No problem? Crazy part. It happens all the time,

708
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: much like with WWE. When I was bought in. I

709
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: was bought in to be the mouthpiece for Sevester Turkai.

710
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: Se girl, I'm an interview. When you bring popol, you

711
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: got somebody that can just talk. I need the palls

712
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: and let you pitch your stuff. But I came in.

713
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: I came in with Sylvester Turki to be his mouthpiece,

714
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: his manager, okay, And then they're like, we're gonna put

715
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: you in the ring. We're gonna put him outside the range.

716
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: The same thing here I go to n WA. I'm

717
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: just the mouthpiece. I'm supposed to be the manager, and somehow, someway,

718
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: they always find a way to get me back in

719
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: the ring because they know how talented you are. I

720
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: appreciate that, and I mean if you sucked, you'd still

721
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,959
Speaker 1: be on the outside and with the micro from the Yeah,

722
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. That's what happened. I was a manager

723
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: and COVID hit like, look, we want you to back

724
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: in the ring. And now I got after having that

725
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: fantastic run with the World Television Champion or the championship.

726
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 1: Now I have the opportunity to become the second black

727
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: man in the seventy three year history of the n

728
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: WA to become the world's heavyweight champion. That's very exciting.

729
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: That's mind body going to me. So when is there

730
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: a pay per view coming up that you want to

731
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:44,919
Speaker 1: plug or what's going on? Well right now next week

732
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: October twenty fourth, I don't know when you guys listen

733
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: to this, but we're going to be an Oak Grove, Kentucky.

734
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 1: We're going to be doing especially being an Oak Growth,

735
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: Kentucky WA by enemies necessary. I'm won't be taking on

736
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 1: one of your friends' sons. Kobe Carino. Oh my goodness, yes,

737
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm I'm you know. Kobe Carino. He's young, Like I said,

738
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 1: he's he's brash, he's ahead of his class. Give him

739
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: the whooping that Steve Corin should have on. Okay, I

740
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: know Colby ever since he was a baby. That's yeah,

741
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: and good kid. He's a good kid and a really

742
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: funny quick story. Steve used to bring him on the

743
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: roads sometimes and we'd be in the locker room, you know,

744
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: and he'd be he is a little like one two

745
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: years old, and I don't know why he was naked,

746
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: but Colby was naked and he came over to me

747
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: and he put his penis on my shoulder and I said, hey, now, son,

748
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 1: he just started cracking up, laughing, and Colby was laughing,

749
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 1: and uh, I don't know. I think i'd put a

750
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: towel around the or something, but they started young. No,

751
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: and now look at him. I remember when Kobe put

752
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: his penis on my shoulder, and Sadman also did that

753
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: when he was drunk in Pensacola, Florida. I was just

754
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 1: about to say, you know how many people wish they

755
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: were Coolbekarino at that time I just said excuse me,

756
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: a little one. And then with Sammy and I I

757
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: didn't even sell it. I said, sir, get that off

758
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 1: me right now. He was so drunk he was, and

759
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: it's on It's on DVD. It's when Samon gets naked

760
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: in Pensacola, Florida. If you look it up, you're lying. No,

761
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: he's naked in the center of the ring. He takes

762
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: off all his clothes. He was bombed, he was obliviated,

763
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 1: and he was started drinking. As soon as we got

764
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: to the building. It was a house shell, you know.

765
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: But his penis ended up here and I just saw.

766
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: I said, get that off me right now, and he

767
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: did and walked away. And I was just like, oh, listen,

768
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: I love I do do I don't love his penis

769
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: on my shoulder. I agree. I'm just saying, like, you

770
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: have the opportunity to work with you guys. First, let

771
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: me finished his books Necessary October twenty fourth, and Oak

772
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: Grog and then Hard Times Too, Hot Times Pay per

773
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: View NWA December the fourth, in Atlanta, GA. I don't

774
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: know what the plans are. I know there's one man

775
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: that runs the show literally, and we're grateful for him.

776
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: His name is Billy Cogan. So to have Billy Cogan,

777
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: you know, just making his own decisions, that's great. I

778
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: have the title opportunity that I can cash in at anytime.

779
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: I'm beginning to feel like hot times is going to

780
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: be that time for yours truly might be the time

781
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: to catch that ticket in it might be. So there

782
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: you guys go and we'll do another round and taping

783
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: as well. But let me talk about Hack real quick

784
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: before I talk back to you. Girl. You hack Tommy Dreamer,

785
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: who was my again, we both loved dream I didn't

786
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: know he was a dream guy and that's why he

787
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: became Dreamer. But I loved Tomy Dreamer. He actually hired

788
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: me to w W. How about that first crazy Ye

789
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: you never know who you're gonna work with in this vies,

790
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 1: know this my favorite c W guys who hired me.

791
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: I have worked with you Rob Van Damn good old

792
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:24,959
Speaker 1: Balls and Mahoney who love balls in uh knew Jack

793
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 1: They worked with him but had but me and him

794
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,879
Speaker 1: were like cool every time we came from each other.

795
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,399
Speaker 1: And the list goes on. So to be in there

796
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 1: with you, guys, Sabu, you know who was just as

797
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 1: crazy then as he was back when, it is truly

798
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: an honor. And to have a respected friendship with you

799
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: as well, who always brings out the boy and me

800
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 1: like Gosh always I'm not lying to you. You best black.

801
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: Pope's a big boy now you are, sir, and and

802
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: Pope's growing by the minute, breaking his milk and taking

803
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: his vitamins. And I'm glad you took it that way,

804
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: and I hope everybody else did. That's the only Well. Yes,

805
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: I much love to you, girl. I have nothing you are.

806
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 1: Let me shut the story for your fans, and then

807
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: I'm going to shut up. When me and Francine started, gosh,

808
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: it's two hours already. When me and Francine started with

809
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: UH working together in W W E c W, and

810
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 1: I met her around the ring. It was my first

811
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: time introducing myself to Francine at ringside. That's when we

812
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: first met. Remember, oh, don't worry, you know, tell it. Yeah.

813
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: And she she was she was a little bit I

814
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 1: don't want I don't know if you were shyre, just

815
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 1: being because of the environment up there. It was I

816
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: just no, no, not shot for me, I mean shot period. Yes.

817
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: So I came around. I'm like, it's Francine, I'm finna

818
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: go talk to her. I want to introduce myself. And

819
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: I went to shake your hand because they would getting

820
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 1: some entering stuff together with the girls and you had

821
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: to be out there see them so and so and

822
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: you turned around. He was like, and your eyes are

823
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: those big eyes? Just hi, okay, nice to meet you.

824
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,439
Speaker 1: And I just it just melted me on the inside.

825
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,760
Speaker 1: I've know, it just melted me, like your your look

826
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Speaker 1: like it's just like, okay, I'm here. I don't know

827
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Speaker 1: what this is. I know what it is, but I

828
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Speaker 1: don't know what this place is. It's not my E

829
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Speaker 1: c W. But I want to make it work. And

830
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 1: I tried. I don't know who you are, but nice

831
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: to meet you. But it was so Yeah, it made

832
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: my day. And so every time I come into your

833
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: presence I feel like it's two thousand and six seven

834
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 1: all over again. Oh God, you adorable. I can't I

835
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: can't like it. You don't try me. Don't push me.

836
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 1: I just said popes ain't no homebreaking, But don't push me. Girl,

837
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Speaker 1: you are. I can't give me some plugs. Where can

838
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: people find you? Well? Hey, guys, hey, listen, I'm behaving

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Speaker 1: here because I'm on camera, going to full Pope mode

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Speaker 1: when I get friend see over on post Front of

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Speaker 1: You podcasts with Elijah Bird, which you can find wherever

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00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: it is you listen to your podcast at Apple, Spotify, Centure, Spreaker,

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00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 1: Our Heart Radio, Google Play, and the list goes on.

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00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: You can also catch up with your boy on Twitter

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00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 1: and Instagram at the Black Pope that's at DA not

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00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: the Dull Black. I hope you can follow me on

847
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: Facebook as well, Facebook, dot Com, Slash, Elijah Burke, and

848
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: I got Twitch coming soon. But you guys will be

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Speaker 1: updated on all of that and real quick. Your charity,

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Speaker 1: that's where your boy was going. Thank you, Franny. My

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00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: charity's tenth year anniversary is actually coming up January the eighth.

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Speaker 1: We will be celebrating serving the community of Jacksonville for

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Speaker 1: ten years. This is our big annual event and we

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Speaker 1: follow up our again. We feed people, fran We don't

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Speaker 1: feed them out of a brown paper bag. We don't

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Speaker 1: feed them out of a soup truck, no man. We

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00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: go down to Burger King in the center of the

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Speaker 1: homeless community in Jacksonville, and we ordered straight out of

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Speaker 1: Burger King. Well, we got three, four or five hundred

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00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 1: people only you know, any given day, lined up and

861
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: we feed them the stuff that sometimes we take for granted,

862
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: because you know, I've seen people eat half of a

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00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: burger and then throw it in the trash. And I

864
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 1: saw a man walking to that same trash, pull that

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00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: bag and he ate it. That's when I started my charity.

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Speaker 1: That's when I said, you know, we got we can

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Speaker 1: do better. We can do better. So tick the anniversar

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Speaker 1: is gonna be January the eighth. Guys, you can head

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00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: over to love dashallive dot org and you can learn

870
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: all about my charity. You can see what Pope's doing

871
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: in the community. You can also donate on that very

872
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: same website. One dollar help makes the difference. We just

873
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: want to be the change that we wish to see

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00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: in the world. And if you want to see it,

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00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: because I make sure you guys see where your money go.

876
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,760
Speaker 1: You can go over to Pope TV and just scroll

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00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: through and you'll see some of the love a lot

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00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: of charity advance. You'll see the people line up, whether

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00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 1: the homeless or not, if they stand in line for hours,

880
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: they need it. We give it clothes, shoes, hygiene products,

881
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 1: book bag for kids filled with essentials to he them

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00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: achieve academic success. And then this goes off. I love it.

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Speaker 1: I love it. That's the one thing I said when

884
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:08,439
Speaker 1: I get him on the show. I have to talk

885
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: about that charity because it's wonderful what you guys are

886
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: doing down there, and I'm I'm just so proud of you.

887
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: You're you're doing everything. You got it all going on

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00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: right now, and you look good doing it, kiddo. So

889
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: kudos to my friend Elijah. I love it when you

890
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 1: call me, when you calliddo, little Elijah, good talk with

891
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: nw A. It's like you're will saying daddy, thank you.

892
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 1: You know, I hate that daddy. We were talking about.

893
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 1: We did a sex quiz because we do Patreon the extras,

894
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: you know, and we get a little a little more

895
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,919
Speaker 1: raunchy on the other shows that we do right, because

896
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,720
Speaker 1: you have to pay for those. And the word daddy

897
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: makes me cringe. I don't like it. You make your

898
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: women call you daddy. No, no, no, daddy, that's d

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Speaker 1: a e e h daddy. Yeah, isn't it the same thing? No? No,

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00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: it's not different. How is it different? Well, Well, because

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00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: daddy is is a paternal term and a sexual term.

902
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: Pope says daddy to everybody. Oh, daddy is more of

903
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: a slang. That never said that to me. That's what Yeah,

904
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: no a girls, daddy, little girls come up, give me

905
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: some dab daddy. You know that's what that's what does

906
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 1: That's what it must be because I live up here

907
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:41,280
Speaker 1: and you're down there. You don't. You don't get pope.

908
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: You get a lodge. You see. I get okay, I

909
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: get the real, the real stuff. If you got Pope,

910
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:56,479
Speaker 1: you walk different. All right, This was a treat. Thank

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00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: you for coming on and for only being eleven minutes late.

912
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 1: I appre she ate it. And when you want me

913
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: to come on over and do your stuff, let me know,

914
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: keep in touch. But I do love you and I

915
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 1: wish you the best of lot. Thank you so much.

916
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: Sell you all right? Same here by buddy, And there

917
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Speaker 1: goes the Pope. Did he just say nice meeting you?

918
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: Do you think he remembered me from twenty fifteen with

919
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: a J Brown forgettable? Well it was audio. You know.

920
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: He's great. You can't forget he's great. That's so funny

921
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: there when he saw me in Fort Waite. He always

922
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: runs over to me wherever I am. It's so cute.

923
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: He always runs over. And there was an orange cone

924
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: like a work cone underneath Kevin Sullivan's table. And when

925
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: he was coming he didn't see the cone and he goes, oh,

926
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: it's razy, it's racy, and he right over and he

927
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: fell over. Jeez, he didn't fall to the ground, but

928
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: he kind of tripped over the cone. It's just like,

929
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,439
Speaker 1: calm down, I'm ready. Did he do a graceful bump?

930
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: Did he pop up? He didn't take a bump, but

931
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: he kind of his foot got I got caught on

932
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: the cone coming over to see me because the Pope pimpin.

933
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: He's great. He's great, and I love the charity work

934
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 1: that he does and I'm very happy for his n

935
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Speaker 1: w A stuff, very very cool. Well we will, yeah,

936
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Speaker 1: we'll cover the other thing next week. There's no time,

937
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: no time to follow up with it. We don't follow

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Speaker 1: up next week, so we're good with that. We don't

939
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: follow up a great interview with filler, so we'll put

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00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 1: the filler to the other day. But before we say goodbye,

941
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: let's just talk about what's going on on Patreon. Uh

942
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: this week. Like you said, I will go over him

943
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:37,959
Speaker 1: out of order. But like you just said to the Pope,

944
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: one of the things that we did were looking at

945
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 1: ten qualities of a good lover. I held my ears

946
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: because I hate that word and I don't know. This

947
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: was fun. It's a it's a good it's a list.

948
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: We go over and we break it down. We give

949
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 1: our two cents. Damn yeah, with ever ones we feel

950
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 1: are good. How about this one? I thought this was hilarious.

951
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: I think you will enjoy it as well. Kind of

952
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 1: drink is fran scene? Who knows? A blast and a can? Maybe?

953
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. I am a party waiting to happen.

954
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: Pot is here some sunny delight? Maybe delight? Am I

955
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: a juice box? A caprice son? Maybe? Maybe? And then

956
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: for our watch along we go over to ECW moments

957
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: very very cool, one of them very historic, the other

958
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: one just a really cool brawl, but nonetheless great commentary

959
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: by the Queen of Extreme. And that's all on patreon

960
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: dot com, slash franccene podcast. If you want to follow me,

961
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 1: it's at Chad E and B on Twitter. On Instagram

962
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: it's at IB Exclusives. As I've already said, that is

963
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: where people spend the money. So if you want to

964
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: spend money, come over to Instagram. Now. I will plug

965
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: one show that I am on this week. As we

966
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 1: listen to that, Oh, let me guess what it is.

967
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: Do I know it? Would you like the guests just

968
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: go right ahead? Is it? Get My Go? I'm not

969
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: only plugging Get My Go, I am plugging the greatest

970
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 1: episode of Get My Go and Get My Get goes

971
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 1: fifty three episode history. This was an absolute pleasure to record.

972
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: It was the funniest, funniest thing I've ever put in

973
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: audio or video form. The chemistry, the comedic timing of

974
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 1: the group for this recording was off the charts. And

975
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 1: if you want to see the just absolute decimation of

976
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 1: a group doing a video against Vince Russo, the Get

977
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: My Go crew steps up and it is quite the

978
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 1: entertaining watchin This guy who had some sort of connection

979
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: to Russo at some point did a show completely trying

980
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 1: to trash. But what he does is he has this

981
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: panel of guys that have nothing to do with whatever

982
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 1: the beef is, and when he gives them their time

983
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 1: to talk, they're all they do is start bringing up

984
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 1: what Vince did on WCW television as a character, and

985
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 1: that's what they're killing him for. Like he made himself

986
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: the WCW champion and he didn't even get in the

987
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 1: ring to defend it. It was unbelievable. The greatest episode

988
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 1: of a podcast I think I've ever recorded. So on YouTube,

989
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 1: Get my Go, Get my Go. If you want to

990
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 1: follow me and you're not across the board, you can

991
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 1: follow me at ECW and Diva Francine and with that

992
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 1: that is a rep