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Speaker 2: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here

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Speaker 2: at Jillette Stadium, and hey, let's call it free agent frenzy.

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Speaker 2: I think that's unique. It was a frenzy, but a

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Speaker 2: big day for the Patriots. Everything reported so nothing. The

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Speaker 2: ink is dry on none of these. But the Patriots

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Speaker 2: reportedly signed quite a few players yesterday, and I, for one,

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Speaker 2: am very pleased with the hall. I think every one

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Speaker 2: of these players are potential starters for this team. I

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Speaker 2: understand they didn't get the wide receiver, they didn't get

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Speaker 2: the left tackle yet, but there's day two. You never

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Speaker 2: knew who's gonna shake loose from another team. We got

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Speaker 2: the draft. There's a long way to go, so I

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Speaker 2: think this was a great start to the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: five seasons. So it's Evan, it's Paul, it's me, it's

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Speaker 2: Stu's Matt and Nabooth. We're here. Talking about free agency,

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Speaker 2: probably a little draft, whatever you want to talk about.

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Speaker 2: It's all on the table. It's a big day here

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Speaker 2: at Chelatte Stadium.

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Speaker 5: It is a big day. Yesterday it was a big day.

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Speaker 5: It was fun.

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Speaker 3: We were all in the down in the bunker watching

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Speaker 3: the moves come in and that was exciting. Yeah, a

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Speaker 4: But because Twitter was.

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Speaker 5: Down right, right, I know Twitter was down for a while.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I found myself going onto the Blue Sky app,

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Speaker 3: which I've never done before. But luckily Twitter came back

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Speaker 3: and I agree with what you said though, Fred, I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think he needed a guy like that.

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Speaker 3: You didn't have that guy last year, you know, Juwan

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Speaker 2: Build this roster back up at all levels. Yep, you know,

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Speaker 2: top middle what these are mostly middle guys. Maybe Milton

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Speaker 2: Certainly he would one of the most prized free agents

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Speaker 2: And like I said, every one of these guys looks

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Speaker 2: and that's what they need.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it gives you a baseline and it's a place

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Speaker 2: You get down the list. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, start on the defensive side of the ball. So

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Speaker 3: Think Detroit and Patriots played the most man last year

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Speaker 3: rest of it, like, all right, we re established a baseline.

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Speaker 3: We got away from you know, I'm looking back at

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Speaker 3: Mike Rabel and Terrell Williams liking, but I still think

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Speaker 3: they need the draft pieces to put them over the top.

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Speaker 3: You've got a solid bunch of pieces in place after

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Speaker 3: free agency. Now it's time to improve the team through

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Speaker 2: And every one of these guys, most of them have

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Speaker 3: How they're going to fit in some certainty. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think that's what Elio Wolf said. You know, in

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Speaker 3: So that rounds out all the reported signings, right now,

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Speaker 4: Was my favorite signing that they made. But you know,

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Speaker 4: been very adamant that they have not had an NFL

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Speaker 4: He's old, yeah, and he you know, he's got a

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Speaker 4: lot of wear and tear. But I really like that signing,

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Speaker 4: He's played at a good level for a lot of years.

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Speaker 4: I like that signing a lot. But the defense needed

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Speaker 4: why why all the attention to the defense. The defense

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Speaker 4: was okay, No, it wasn't okay. The defense was badly

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Speaker 4: the way the pieces fell, right, That's what they addressed first.

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Speaker 4: And I don't think there's a bad signing in the bunch.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that any of these signings that they

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Speaker 3: That's one I might I might say yes. I mean

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Speaker 3: I think cornerback. I didn't see it as a huge

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Speaker 2: But maybe you bring in this this guy you know

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Speaker 2: start him at wide receiver. Because we've got two, really

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Jones might be hitting free agency, I hear. So

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Speaker 2: So I don't know, I think this might affect a

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure it does. I get I get Mike's

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Speaker 4: much on anything Mike said. I would still stick with it.

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Speaker 4: They're if they're at four with no opportunity for Carter

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Speaker 4: because I still think you need players and even if

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Speaker 4: and then had, you know, recurring problems with the blood clots.

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Speaker 4: So if Mason Graham is your highest you know guy

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Speaker 4: by far, I would I would still take that. Again,

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Speaker 4: I don't necessarily everything Mike said is right. I wouldn't

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Speaker 4: did about Mason Graham. Yeah, No, I mean I wouldn't.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't argue with you, and I wouldn't argue with that.

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Speaker 6: I that's the biggest thing is like they're they're both undersized.

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Speaker 6: You know, Milton Williams is also undersized. They both win

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Speaker 6: with their their quickness and their technique and all that

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Speaker 6: kind of stuff. So if you're looking at overlapping skill sets,

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Speaker 6: I mean, they're kind of the same, dude, Like you're

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Speaker 6: you're kind of projecting that Mason Graham is going to

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Speaker 4: Some But I wouldn't. I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I listen to that.

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Speaker 5: But I look at that as.

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Speaker 4: Fear off season I was hoping for last year. I

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Speaker 4: Carlton Davis is probably an upgrade on Jonathan Jones. I

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Speaker 4: Maybe Mickey Splaine is the next veteran. I meant Jwan

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Speaker 2: And that's the thing, you know, for those people who

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Speaker 2: Before you had to trade with him, you don't know

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Speaker 2: You didn't know Harol Landry was.

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Speaker 2: But at that time before they did that, like you

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Speaker 2: So there's a long way to go before September. This

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Speaker 2: That said, if you think they're going to solve everything

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Speaker 6: Yeah, adedly, I just feel like, you know, you guys

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Speaker 4: People don't get home.

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Speaker 6: The interior, especially of the defensive line and the off

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Speaker 4: They couldn't run cause him at the season, Yeah, you

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it wasn't a good defense. And I think the

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Speaker 6: they're going out and they're adding guys that I'm sorry,

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Speaker 6: Because that guy just flies to the football like he

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Speaker 2: Zach Thomas. I love those guys. Those you know, big

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Speaker 4: Well. I just like athletic guys that can make plays

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Speaker 6: They I understand you don't care about how many tackles

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Speaker 2: Right the ball.

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Speaker 4: Yeah he does.

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Speaker 6: He has five interceptions over the last two seasons playing

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Speaker 4: Which is bad.

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Speaker 6: I like, is an interesting number that's making players in space.

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Speaker 3: And Davis too, he plays hard too. I just, uh,

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's exciting to me because I've grown

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Speaker 5: We're gonna play aggressive.

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Speaker 3: They're probably gonna make some mistakes and get burned from

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Speaker 5: And I think it's exciting.

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Speaker 3: It's it's paint by number. It's yep, Harold Landry's going right,

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Speaker 5: You know, all those guys easily fit.

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Speaker 4: Carlton pretty much. Anyone. They Yeah, right, But this is

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Speaker 4: We won four games, let's bring them all back, and

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Speaker 4: Like it wasn't They needed to do something like this, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: or Jeremiah Farms, no disrespect, right, he's a better player.

437
00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,960
Speaker 4: So you got better at a lot of probably five

438
00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,360
Speaker 4: different spots on defense, you got better at.

439
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 2: Now that said, they did make a run at Godwin.

440
00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,320
Speaker 2: From what I understand, they offered him a hell of

441
00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,040
Speaker 2: a lot money, more money than what he settled on

442
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,119
Speaker 2: to stay in Tampa Bay. Good for him. You know,

443
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,080
Speaker 2: it's always good to hear a player stay with his team,

444
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,560
Speaker 2: you know, and takes less money and all that, you know,

445
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,280
Speaker 2: because he really likes where he is, which is fine.

446
00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 2: But they did make a run at Godwin and he

447
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,439
Speaker 2: just didn't want to leave Tampa Bay. So they know

448
00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 2: they need to get with It's not like they're not trying.

449
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,959
Speaker 2: They and they will continue to try. We meanted, you know,

450
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,280
Speaker 2: Cooper Cup is now a legit free agent. He's going

451
00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,919
Speaker 2: to be released, so you don't have to trade for him.

452
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,439
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's going to be w R one,

453
00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 2: but I did like him on the team in the

454
00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 2: locker room and in that wide receiver room. Absolutely.

455
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:02,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

456
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,680
Speaker 6: It just feels like, you know, we talk a lot

457
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,920
Speaker 6: about trenches, trenches, trenches, and then you talk a lot

458
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,120
Speaker 6: about culture right and bringing some of those guys in

459
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 6: you need that. And then they did that on day

460
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Speaker 6: one of free agency and it's like, well, what about

461
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,200
Speaker 6: the wide receiver? And it's like, yeah, they still need

462
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 6: the wide receiver, but isn't this what we just talked

463
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 6: about for the last month is what they needed to do.

464
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 6: And then they went out and.

465
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Speaker 2: This is what Belichick did when he first got here.

466
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,520
Speaker 2: We signed Anthony Pleussant, he signed Bobby Hamilton. He brought

467
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 2: in Brian Cox, guys who you know, were hungry, would

468
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,879
Speaker 2: know how to play football, know how to behave, know

469
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,400
Speaker 2: how to practice, and you know he built the team

470
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,159
Speaker 2: like that. You have to do that.

471
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like a very It was a very work

472
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Speaker 4: two thousand and one, like free agent class. Yeah, they

473
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Speaker 4: did not have a big shiny object like Milton Williams

474
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Speaker 4: in two thousand and one. But the Spallanes in the

475
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,879
Speaker 4: Carlton Davises of the world, that's you know, it was

476
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Speaker 4: Mike Rabel. Yep, Harold Landry, Mike Rabel, it was you

477
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Speaker 4: know in you mentioned the guys up front. Otis Smith

478
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 4: actually came in two thousand but yes, that was what

479
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Speaker 4: I would say is Carlton Davis and Spelane. You know,

480
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 4: these are all guys that you know, Brian Cox in

481
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,399
Speaker 4: two thousand and one. You know, Mike Compton, is Morgan

482
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 4: Moses like a veteran offensive lineman who started in the

483
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Speaker 4: league and played it, established a level of competence in

484
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 4: the league. It's not a roll of the dice on

485
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 4: Trey Jacobs in Vederian Lowe it's a guy who has started.

486
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Speaker 2: In the line and beyond what they do in the field.

487
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Speaker 2: Vrabel knows these are guys who will carry my water,

488
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Speaker 2: they'll carry my message. These are, you know, the guys

489
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Speaker 2: that will set the tone in the locker room, set

490
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Speaker 2: the tone at practice. You have to have that.

491
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

492
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Speaker 6: And just to go back to your question about the draft,

493
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Speaker 6: and I've was kicking this around with you guys a

494
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Speaker 6: little bit yesterday. I just the more that I see

495
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Speaker 6: what they're doing and then listen to what they say,

496
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Speaker 6: the more that skill player at four overall stands out

497
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Speaker 6: to me as a possibility. Because when we were at

498
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Speaker 6: the combine, when Vrabel was asked about that that wide

499
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Speaker 6: receiver one, you know how, he said, they're hard to

500
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Speaker 6: get most of the time. You have to draft it yourself.

501
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Speaker 6: And I just I look at the way that they've

502
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 6: moved and we're now two free agencies in where Calvin

503
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 6: Ridley says no, Brandon Nyuke says no, DK Metcalf says no,

504
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 6: Chris Godwin says no. And until you get to the

505
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Speaker 6: point where you can attract that level of talent at

506
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 6: that particular position, you might have to draft your own

507
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 6: guy and maybe that guy, you know, maybe it's Teed McMillan,

508
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 6: and he's not a true number one receiver, but then

509
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 6: next offseason you get the number one receiver and now

510
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 6: he's t Higgins right to Jamar Chase, and you have

511
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,199
Speaker 6: that sort of thing going for you. So I just

512
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Speaker 6: Travis Hunter has been a wide receiver to me this

513
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 6: whole time, So I put him up at the top.

514
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 6: But Travis Hunter, Ted McMillan, Tyler Warren, you know, a

515
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Speaker 6: true guy that you feel like you can fee targets to,

516
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 6: that can be a true high volume, you know, run

517
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 6: the offense through this player. I just wonder if that's

518
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 6: on the table, what about CENTI, Lord help me.

519
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 4: Not for me.

520
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 2: What if they trade back.

521
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 4: But based on what they did yesterday, I'd put him

522
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Speaker 4: in the mix. That's what That's how I kind of felt,

523
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 4: because I think that they sort of we're gonna, as

524
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 4: Mike said, play with our hair on fire. On defense.

525
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 4: We're going to be a high pressure defense, trying to

526
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 4: make plays. We're going to try to run the ball.

527
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 4: We're going to try to be you know, right, and

528
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 4: we're going to try to be you know, twenty whatever.

529
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 4: Eighteen Tennessee I just don't believe nineteen because doubt truly

530
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Speaker 4: was his demise in Tennessee.

531
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Speaker 6: What was was trying to win games like that, saying

532
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Speaker 6: we don't need a J. Brown, We'll draft Trey Lon

533
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 6: Berks because we're going to be a run first football team.

534
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 6: We're going to play great defense. Like I just feel

535
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 6: like he's had to have learned from and I mean verable,

536
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 6: like had to have learn from those experiences that you

537
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 6: just you're not gonna win like that.

538
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 4: Even Mac Collins kind of known as a blocking wide receiver.

539
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 6: I just genty to me. I feel like it's still

540
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 6: if you're already a good team that can add him

541
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Speaker 6: in as a bonus piece, like the Eagles just did

542
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 6: with Saquon Barkley for example, Like, then that's a great

543
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 6: pick for you. But unless they add a left tackle

544
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 6: a left guard.

545
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 2: Well, so let's just say that cam Ward or or

546
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,959
Speaker 2: sad Or doesn't get picked before the Patriots. Does that

547
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 2: increase the chance that a team may want to trade

548
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 2: up to get one of those two guys in the

549
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 2: Patriots pick up a pick or two extra to be

550
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 2: able to get Astra genty, But now you can also

551
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 2: maybe get a tackle or you know, a wide receiver.

552
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Speaker 6: Yeah maybe, I mean, I just I would rather draft

553
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 6: the receiver instead of gent But like in either way,

554
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 6: that's the trade down scenario makes sense, right, I think

555
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 6: everybody would take a trade down the Patriots position, and

556
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 6: maybe you can draft Tech McMillan at nine instead of

557
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 6: drafting Tech McMillan at four, and then everybody feels a

558
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 6: little bit better about it. But I just until you

559
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 6: can be the bell of the ball and find a

560
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 6: way to get one of these diva wide receivers to

561
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 6: take you up on your offer, like you're just gonna be.

562
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 2: He went to Pittsburgh. Was that because of Russell Wilson,

563
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 2: Like because he didn't want to be in cold weather

564
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 2: and he wanted to be a contender, so and went

565
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Speaker 2: to Neither.

566
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Speaker 4: There's a little bit of they've pushed back on the

567
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 4: whole warm weather thing. He said he didn't like this area,

568
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 4: and that's what he says. I'm not telling you that

569
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 4: he's not lying, because I think he probably is. His

570
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 4: camp says that he did not like this era, he

571
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 4: didn't want to come to this Massachusetts Massachusetts specifically said that, right.

572
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 4: I don't now he may have said I want a

573
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 4: warm weather climate. I didn't hear that. Yeah, there was

574
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 4: a report, but that's what everyone is saying now, and

575
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 4: they've pushed back on that over the weekend his camp,

576
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 4: But again, that's what his camp is paid to do

577
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 4: make their client look better. But I don't think anything

578
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,360
Speaker 4: to do with Russell Wilson. He's not under contract yet.

579
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: Okay.

580
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 4: As matter of fact, they're talking about Aaron Rodgers, which

581
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 4: I think would be unbelievable.

582
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 6: Like some of those cells for Metcalf that are now

583
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 6: coming out. And you always hear that side of the

584
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 6: street is that you know, Pittsburgh has a great history

585
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 6: with wide receivers. You know, he feels like he's going

586
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 6: to be well coached at that position, and you know,

587
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 6: put in positions to succeed. And I think Mike tomlin

588
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 6: Is still continues to be a draw and them being

589
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 6: a nine to ten win team is still better than

590
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 6: a four win Patriots roster. And you know, there's just

591
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 6: a little bit more proven commodity there, I guess with Pittsburgh.

592
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 4: But I mean it is a playoff team. I dis

593
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 4: missed Pittsburgh, no, but I dismissed them every year to

594
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 4: us they're contenders, but like compared to the rest of

595
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 4: the league, they're contenders. Like I dismissed them every year

596
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 4: because I don't think they could possibly win big in

597
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 4: the playoffs. They're limited most people do. But they win

598
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 4: nine or ten games every year. They won ten last now.

599
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 2: But even their own fan base is getting frustrated.

600
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 4: They want Tom went out. They think they should be

601
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 4: better with what they have. So they have talent. In

602
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 4: other words, their fans think they have more talent than

603
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 4: they're winning.

604
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 3: Such a weird thing, the perpetual six to seven seed.

605
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 3: I mean, at this point, after back to back four

606
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 3: win seasons, what I wouldn't give to be the six.

607
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 4: That's my point. Det Calf, you're not necessarily in the

608
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 4: weeds breaking down the depth charts of the teams. You're

609
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 4: seeing ten wins and four wins, Like, what's my decision?

610
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 5: You know?

611
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 2: A little some other NFL Daniel Jones going to the Colts,

612
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 2: there's a lot of it's a.

613
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 4: Good move for Indy. I think there's a chance that

614
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 4: he could be Sam Donald and resurrect himself.

615
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 2: Justin Fields to the Jets, yep, Justin Field. Speaking of

616
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 2: Sam Donald, he went to Seattle Gino Smith, where did

617
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: he go and went to the Raiders? Uh so a

618
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 2: lot of quarterback movement obviously, aren't Rogers is still out there?

619
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 2: What are the Vikings doing? They're gonna go with JJ.

620
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 6: Sounds like, yeah, the quarterback movement terrifies me because I

621
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 6: think everybody is running for the hills from this quarterback

622
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 6: class right now, and no one wants to be stuck

623
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 6: taking a quarterback in this draft, and they're going, you know,

624
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 6: every other direction besides.

625
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 4: Gonna give it the silver lining in that I told

626
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 4: one thousand percent co sign on what Evan just said.

627
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 4: But the one silver lining is that none of the

628
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 4: three teams ahead of them has signed one of those

629
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 4: guys yet, right, And I think that's good. Like I

630
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 4: think it would be bad if say the Giants end

631
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,959
Speaker 4: up with Aaron Rodgers or you know, Cleveland ends up

632
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 4: signing you know, Kirk Cousins, whoever else is out there.

633
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 4: That would be bad to me.

634
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 3: Does Gino preclude the Raiders do you think from trading up.

635
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 6: For Well, it definitely sounded like they're not.

636
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 4: They're not drafting a quarterback. Why because there's not a

637
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 4: good quarterback to draft. They just Evan just told you

638
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 4: what they did, But I.

639
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 2: Don't think signing Geno Smith is the reason why.

640
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 4: Well, there they would rather have in the short term

641
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 4: than draft cam Wood or your door, Sanders, but.

642
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 2: Maybe have Geno Smith there and so you don't have

643
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 2: to start your door on day one.

644
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 4: But if they liked that option, they would go with

645
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 4: that option. I agree with Evan. I think that that

646
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 4: they're telling you that they don't believe in these quarterbacks.

647
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 6: They also were telling people all over the weekend after

648
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 6: the trade that they were going to pay Juna Smith

649
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,719
Speaker 6: forty five million dollars a year on a new contract.

650
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 4: He's another guy who wins ten games now you know.

651
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, they said the midle level and Gino is not

652
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 6: going to be mid level. He'll be paid more.

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Speaker 4: Like if you were the Bucks, would you draft Shad

654
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Speaker 4: Door Sanders. No, No, it's this. They have the same

655
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Speaker 4: guy I have, Baker. I know that's the same guy.

656
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Speaker 4: It's Gino Smith, Baker Mayfield. It's it's a very similar

657
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Speaker 4: situation for him. It's all. I'm all. I'm trying to

658
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Speaker 4: tell you. I respect you said earlier, like because you've

659
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Speaker 4: been on this for years and years and I always

660
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Speaker 4: make fun of you, but you know, guys will shake free,

661
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Speaker 4: guys will come lose. B blah blah blah. Okay, So

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Speaker 4: would you give the fourth overall pick to Philly for

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Speaker 4: a J.

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Speaker 8: Brown?

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Speaker 4: Nah? I would do it in a heartbeat. Who are

666
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Speaker 4: you getting in the fourth the fourth pick that's going

667
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Speaker 4: to be better than a J. Brown?

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Speaker 5: Right now?

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Speaker 9: No?

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Speaker 4: No, next year, two years when they're picking fourth again.

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Speaker 2: Paul makes a good point. I've said this a lot.

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Speaker 4: You know, if he shakes free, if that's a Fred guy,

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Speaker 4: he shakes free. How Philly says that he's not, he's

674
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Speaker 4: not shaking free? I always, well, Million, everyone's got a price.

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Speaker 2: You know, you also have Jim and I get that.

676
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Speaker 2: You don't have to pay the fourth round, the fourth

677
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Speaker 2: pick as much as he would for the fourth pick.

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Speaker 2: I would. You're not going to find somebody better Brown?

679
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Speaker 6: But what do you think make four for a J.

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Speaker 10: Brown?

681
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Speaker 6: And thirty two?

682
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Speaker 9: Like?

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Speaker 4: Is that allowed? I don't know if that's allowed for me.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if they'll allow it. I'm not even

685
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Speaker 4: just didn't he go from Tennessee to Philly for a

686
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Speaker 4: one into three?

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Speaker 5: Yep?

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Speaker 4: So now you're only going to get him for a

689
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Speaker 4: one and you want them to give you a pick

690
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Speaker 4: swap for it? Yes, yeah, I'm not sure.

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Speaker 6: I mean they'll agree, but well, the difference between four

692
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Speaker 6: and thirty two is a first round pick, correct, So

693
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Speaker 6: like you're you're trading first.

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Speaker 4: In fairness, alluding to that as a pick swap is

695
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Speaker 4: very disingenuous on my true, that's much more than a

696
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Speaker 4: pick swap.

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Speaker 2: But I would do that. Why did you do that?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I just just something. Give me the top five, I

700
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Speaker 6: would give me something else.

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Speaker 4: I would I understand what I've been saying. He wants

702
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Speaker 4: to he wants to draft a young player part of

703
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Speaker 4: the future. I would definitely sacrifice the fourth pick, though,

704
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Speaker 4: for for a proven commodity like that.

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Speaker 5: Well that's my question. And I look, I love A J.

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Speaker 5: Brown and he's like him.

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Speaker 4: I can guy, don't forget. But I also just.

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Speaker 3: Wonder if Will Campbell is a decade long left tackle,

709
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Speaker 3: is that better for the long term health of the

710
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Speaker 3: franchise than pushing the issue this year with AJ Brown

711
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Speaker 3: when you're probably not quite ready and maybe making it

712
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Speaker 3: to the six or seventh seed.

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Speaker 4: Or kind of a decade long left tiger?

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Speaker 3: Is he Matt Lighte Well, if he's just a good,

715
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Speaker 3: very good, very good solid yeah, AJ Brown.

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Speaker 6: But I mean if he's but is that going.

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Speaker 5: To peter out?

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Speaker 4: Jonathan Ogden, I'll take I'll take John.

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Speaker 5: Is a J.

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Speaker 3: Brown going to start to go downhill in twenty twenty six?

721
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Speaker 2: But you feel like we're hitting If there's a time

722
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Speaker 2: to pay that big price wide receiver, it's probably now,

723
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Speaker 2: so that in three years or you know, four years

724
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Speaker 2: when you have to make it just you know, make

725
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Speaker 2: a decision on Drake May.

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Speaker 5: He's seen it so much better.

727
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Speaker 2: I don't need a J. Brown. I'll go out and

728
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Speaker 2: re up that position when I have to pay facilitate,

729
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 2: you know, Yeah, I like to get it.

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Speaker 3: I can listen and I think I made the point

731
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Speaker 3: last show of like getting him somebody now to excel

732
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Speaker 3: try to accelerate the process for sure. I just I mean,

733
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Speaker 3: I'm just saying for sake of argument, you know, is

734
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Speaker 3: it are you just going to get to where the

735
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Speaker 3: steel are with AJ Brown? And then he's going to

736
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Speaker 3: start to decline and then you're going to be stuck.

737
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Speaker 3: Whereas you know, if you had an option right now

738
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Speaker 3: for saying, let's secure our line and know that that's

739
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 3: going to be good for the foreseeable future, and we

740
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Speaker 3: can now build around that for the next decade rather

741
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 3: than the clock's ticking with AJ Brown, the.

742
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Speaker 4: Building around an offensive line for a decade.

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Speaker 2: Well, and that's the thing, Like, I'm not as worried

744
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 2: about rebuilding that offensive line as some people are. I

745
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 2: believe if you, if you're smart about who you either

746
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 2: sign or draft, and you have good coaching, we can

747
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 2: get back to respectability on the offensive line. I think

748
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Speaker 2: wide receiver's tougher, you know, to get that one guy

749
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Speaker 2: that is a is a game changer.

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Speaker 6: Oh, I just That's why I just keep coming back to,

751
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 6: like no one's throwing no one's saving you from this

752
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 6: problem at wide receiver, Like you can't you can't even

753
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 6: get Chris godwined to take twenty million dollars more to

754
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Speaker 6: come from Tampa.

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Speaker 2: It's a good point.

756
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Speaker 6: It's like no one, no one's throwing you a life

757
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Speaker 6: raft here. And I don't think AJ Brown is just

758
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 6: magically going to come up available and they're going to

759
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 6: trade for him or whatever the case may be.

760
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Speaker 2: And Carillo Patriots to sign a j At some point.

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Speaker 6: You gotta just draft your own guy, like you gotta

762
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 6: just you're just gonna have to take a plunge with

763
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Speaker 6: with somebody at the top of the draft and not

764
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Speaker 6: somebody at thirty eight like Jalen Polk or fifty like

765
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Speaker 6: Taekwon Thorton, like somebody in the first round. That's your guy,

766
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Speaker 6: whether it's Ted or it's Matthew Golden or whoever. Like

767
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 6: you just have to go out and get that guy,

768
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 6: because I mean, how many years are we going to

769
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Speaker 6: do this that we're well, dk Metcalf's now available in

770
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Speaker 6: a trade, Maybe he'll come to the Patriots. Nope, you know,

771
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 6: Cooper Cups now available, Maybe he'll come to the Patriots.

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Speaker 4: Nope.

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Speaker 6: Like we're gonna just keep doing this perpetual cycle at

774
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Speaker 6: that position.

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Speaker 2: Yep, all right, eight five to five Pats five hundred

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Speaker 2: is the ace ticket, hut Line podcast at Patriots dot

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Speaker 2: com is the email address? What else do we want

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Speaker 2: to put on the table before we get to the

779
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Speaker 2: listeners viewers.

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Speaker 6: I do like the Morgan Moses signing. You know, I

781
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 6: really we've talked a lot about defense, but Morgan Moses

782
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,720
Speaker 6: his thirty five inches.

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00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got long arms, long arms.

784
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Speaker 7: Will cambell an inch and still be yeah him and

785
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 7: him and on one who next to each other is

786
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Speaker 7: gonna They're gonna be a really good run blocking right

787
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 7: side of the line, which is typically what Josh likes

788
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 7: to do offensively.

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Speaker 6: You know, Marcus Cannon and Shaq Mason and you know

790
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 6: the guys over on that side. So, uh, they're he's

791
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 6: a very good, you know, NFL starter. Is he a

792
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 6: great elite tackle? No, but he's an NFL player as

793
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 6: as Paul said, and I think he'll he'll help out

794
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 6: a lot. They still need a left tackle, they still

795
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Speaker 6: need a left guard, and they might need a center.

796
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 4: So they they still got a way to go.

797
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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's yeah, right, but it will be nice that

798
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Speaker 6: you know, come August, we won't be saying, so who's

799
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Speaker 6: the right tackle?

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Speaker 11: Right?

801
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 6: Like, you know, like that we know who the.

802
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, well that's the question.

803
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 3: I wonder where it puts Kayden Wallace And you know,

804
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 3: are those guys going to get a chance at left tackle?

805
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 3: Were just gonna bring that experiment back out and see

806
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 3: if anybody who's been on the right side can play

807
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 3: on the left side, or you know, are they going

808
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 3: to make a move for a legit left?

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Speaker 5: I mean, there's just not a lot of options.

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00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 4: It's it's hard to accept Cam Robinson at this point.

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Speaker 4: At the right price.

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00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, at the right price.

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00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 4: Is he going to get like a Dan? It's Dan Moore?

814
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 4: Is it going to get a Dan?

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Speaker 5: More?

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00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 6: That would sound like it if he hasn't signed already.

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Speaker 6: I feel like if that deal was out there for him,

819
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 6: he would have already, he would have signed yesterday. It's probably,

820
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Speaker 6: but I don't know. I mean I would take him

821
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 6: at the right price. But I think his last couple

822
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 6: of games in Minnesota are really cooling his market.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he was his numbers were compable of Madarian Low's.

824
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Speaker 6: He was rough down the stretch for them last How

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Speaker 6: does this h.

826
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Speaker 2: This version of the free agent frenzy feel differently to

827
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 2: you than in twenty one when you know they signed

828
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 2: judea On and Hunter Henry and all those guys, or

829
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 2: does it feel any different?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it feels similar, yeah to me to

831
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Speaker 4: twenty one. I thought that that was a good free

832
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Speaker 4: agent group in twenty one. I mean, I thought Judah

833
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 4: was really good for them, you know, I thought they

834
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 4: filled some holes that weren't like Evan likes to say, like,

835
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 4: they're not sexy. You know, guys that you could put

836
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 4: on your fantasy team, but like Gotcha filled a role

837
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Speaker 4: as a run stopper for what four years. I was

838
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 4: never a huge fan, but you know, it's an unglamorous spot.

839
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Speaker 4: He did what he was what he was asked to do.

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Speaker 4: Hunter Henry did a really good job at tight. I

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Speaker 4: I thought that the only the difference I feel this

842
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 4: mom and Aalore were kind of disappointments. Yeah, I would say.

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Speaker 2: This time there's I think there was more competition this year.

844
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Speaker 4: Yeah than there was that year, No, no doubt. That's

845
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Speaker 4: why I think this was a little bit more like

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Speaker 4: A one, Yeah, twenty one.

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Speaker 3: More meat and potatoes this year, where that year you

848
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 3: had a big edge rusher.

849
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Speaker 5: You added a couple receivers, you know that.

850
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Speaker 4: I mean people look and say, well, they got a

851
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 4: bunch of guys for like these small money deals. Well

852
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 4: it's just it's relative. It's twenty five years later, right,

853
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 4: so the money, you know, like Robert Splaine's contract is

854
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Speaker 4: probably not all that different. Percent You know, I'm not

855
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Speaker 4: going to go with the percentage I know and all that,

856
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 4: but I don't think you know, people looked at that

857
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 4: Spalayan contract yesterday and The initial reaction was like, wow,

858
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 4: that's a lot of money, but it's really it's market value.

859
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 4: Like for these guys, the one that was really high

860
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 4: is Milton Williams, and that was different than anything they

861
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Speaker 4: did in twenty one. I mean, uh one, they didn't

862
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 4: have a guy that was I mean, he's like the

863
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 4: is he the second or third highest paid defensive tackle

864
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Speaker 4: now Chris Jones and Christian Wilkins.

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Speaker 2: He's now the highest per season in Patriots history, right.

866
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 4: Right, So that's a big that's I don't care what era.

867
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Speaker 4: That's a big money contract and a lot of the

868
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 4: projections had him well below that heading in, But that's

869
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Speaker 4: totally that's the price you had to pay. No, no, no,

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Speaker 4: the the analytics sites.

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Speaker 6: Now I know they give you around twenty they give.

872
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 4: You these estimates and it was like seventeen to nineteen

873
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 4: and you got twenty six. Like that's but what you

874
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 4: have to pay when you need a guy, right, when

875
00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 4: you want the guy, that's what you have to do.

876
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 4: I applaud that approach.

877
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I've had my money. My concerns about Milton

878
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 6: Williams that I expressed before free agency, but when you

879
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 6: look at his body type, his game, and then you

880
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 6: look at Jeffrey Simmons in Tennessee. Similar type of players,

881
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 6: similar weight, similar size. I could see how Rabel and

882
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 6: Terrell Williams look at Milton Williams and say that's our

883
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 6: that's our Jeffrey Simmons here, you know, and and hopefully

884
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 6: it works out that well.

885
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 2: But I don't care what they pay these guys. They

886
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 2: wanted them, they got them. Yeah, I don't care what.

887
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:32,959
Speaker 3: They I think he's a little bit of a tone

888
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 3: setter too. I just I love the energy that he

889
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 3: plays with and you know, watching him play off of Carter,

890
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 3: certainly that's a big part of it, but he brings

891
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 3: his own juice to it's not just you know, a

892
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 3: guy picking up the scraps from what was left.

893
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 5: Over from from Davis and Carter.

894
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 3: So I I just think they needed kind of and

895
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,959
Speaker 3: I bet it was part of the pitch of like, look,

896
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 3: we need somebody to be our guy in this room,

897
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 3: to really set the tone and be a leader, and

898
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 3: you know, every day show up with energy. And from

899
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 3: what I've seen a Milt Williams, it seems like he

900
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 3: can be that kind of guy for them, I think

901
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 3: they need to do More though, and build around him,

902
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 3: and you know, Tonga is a minor piece of it.

903
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 3: I think that's a role that you kind of just

904
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 3: have to have kicking around. But at the same time,

905
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 3: when you look at some of these defensive front seven guys,

906
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 3: we say, all right, well we start complimenting Milk Williams

907
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 3: with one of these promising edge rushers, you know, in

908
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 3: that early second round that are still available, you know,

909
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 3: and then you start to see like him and bar

910
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 3: More and this guy off the edge and you feel like,

911
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 3: all right, they're starting, they're starting to really build something here.

912
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, you need to.

913
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 6: I think Landry can be that in the short term,

914
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 6: like kind of that trash collector that just kind of

915
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 6: finishes with the sack and you know, he's probably not

916
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 6: going to be the one that gets the pressure, but

917
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 6: he's there to just clean it up. And I think

918
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 6: he can do that. But I'm with you that those

919
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 6: day two edge rushers, to get another guy that can

920
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 6: win a one on one by himself is attractive. I

921
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 6: don't know if they need to do that at the

922
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 6: top of the draft necessarily anymore, but you know, like

923
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 6: our guy Josiah Stewart or someone like that, that can

924
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 6: just scream off the edge.

925
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 5: Still feels like they're a scheme pressure defense, right, Can we.

926
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 4: Get a Do you think there's a chance you could

927
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 4: get a big jump from Keon White.

928
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 6: I'm gonna see a lot of one on ones, especially

929
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 6: if Barmar is in there. I mean, it's definitely a different,

930
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 6: a better scheme for him. You know, they're not gonna

931
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 6: ask him to post up and keep containing on the

932
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 6: edge in this defense. You know they'll they'll let him

933
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 6: get up the field and go after the ball. But

934
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 6: I still think he's better inside, Like I still think

935
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 6: he's at his best rushing over the guard on third

936
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,760
Speaker 6: down and things like that. But now maybe the lines

937
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 6: opening towards Milton Williams, he's gonna have those one on ones.

938
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 4: Yeah. And you know, I'm not telling you that I

939
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 4: thought Keon White blew everybody away at the beginning of

940
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 4: last year when everybody was getting all excited about the

941
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 4: sack numbers. But he is a high motor guy that

942
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 4: you were talking about with Milton Williams. I've seen key

943
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 4: On White be the guy that chases down the screen

944
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 4: twenty yards downfield. He has athleticism and a competitive streak,

945
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 4: to him, and I just wonder if maybe in a

946
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 4: more pigeonholed role and as Evan said, maybe less attention, right,

947
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 4: maybe you could get it. It's possible I get a

948
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 4: bump from.

949
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 5: I mean, put put me on the skeptical side with him.

950
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 2: And how we filled the Super Bowl this year.

951
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 6: San Francisco's sure.

952
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 4: Start looking there was a way I could figure that out.

953
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 6: You look at those guys, if you know White, everything

954
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 6: seems to really hinging on on Christian Barmore being healthy,

955
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 6: but bar Moore, White, Landry, Milton Williams. Those are four

956
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 6: elite athletes up front, like guys that really tested.

957
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 2: Now.

958
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 6: Landry is sort of a little bit older now, but

959
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 6: like when he came out of college, you know, Boston College. Uh,

960
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 6: he was a nine you know relative athletics score guy,

961
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 6: you know, nine point zero relative athleticscre guy.

962
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 2: Shades of Seymour Warre and Wilfork.

963
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 6: I wouldn't go that far, but there are four really

964
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 6: good athletes. And if you want to build a defense

965
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 6: that is going to be aggressive and get up the

966
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 6: field and isn't going to be as much you know,

967
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 6: hold the point of attack, like these four guys can definitely.

968
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 4: There is this there's like an upside to everything that

969
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 4: they did. Now there's a lot of ifs. You know,

970
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 4: if Harold Landry somehow reverts to his pre ACL form

971
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 4: because the last two years it's not been that. And

972
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 4: I know that you look at the sack numbers and say, wow,

973
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 4: you know they haven't had a guy that's nice.

974
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 6: I think he was like that in the last couple

975
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 6: of years of Rabel.

976
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 4: I thought the year before he towards a CL he

977
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 4: was dynamic, and then he got the he was a

978
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 4: pro bowler, got the contract, and he towards a CL

979
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 4: and I don't think he's been dynamic anymore. Mike showed

980
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 4: me some clips this morning, and he had a lot

981
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 4: of key on white like sacks like coming off the edge, quarterback,

982
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 4: you know, it's got time, got time, got time, steps

983
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 4: up in the pocket right into Harold Landry. I think

984
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 4: one of them was Drake May. Yep, one of the

985
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 4: sacks that he had was Drake May. But it wasn't

986
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 4: like this, you know, immediate win off the edge here,

987
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 4: you know t J. Watt kind of explosiveness. Right, that's

988
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 4: not how he wins.

989
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: Don Miller's available, I should that's really good, solid.

990
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 4: He's a good player.

991
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 5: He's a good player. I just I wonder with ke

992
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 5: On White.

993
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 3: Too many guys just to beat guards and can key

994
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,439
Speaker 3: On White handle tackles. And that's something I think he's

995
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 3: struggled with with what I've seen in camp. You know,

996
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 3: he tries to just power rush and it doesn't usually work.

997
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 3: He doesn't only have the speed or the bend to

998
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 3: get around the corner. So it's yeah, I mean, if

999
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 3: Barmore can't go, I can definitely see I'm going to

1000
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 3: assume he's not part of the equation. And then yeah,

1001
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 3: I see ke White as solid, situational interior kind of

1002
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 3: pass rush guy. I just wonder if they're going to

1003
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 3: play four man front, two linebackers, nickel, go upfield and

1004
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 3: get it, where does Keon White fit into that first

1005
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 3: second down? I just I struggle putting him as a

1006
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,240
Speaker 3: defensive end, putting up against tackles. I ideally he'd be inside,

1007
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 3: but it feels like you two good inside guys. Now

1008
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 3: that's where my head's out with him. He's got stuff

1009
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 3: to prove to me against tackles on the outside.

1010
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 6: He's got to play fourth three end right like you

1011
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 6: got to put his hand in the dirt fourth three

1012
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 6: end and hope that was if you just go up

1013
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 6: the field instead of having to do some of the

1014
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 6: dent the pocket and keep the quarterback and.

1015
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:25,720
Speaker 2: The moves for an outside Russia, he admits, Iteah.

1016
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 3: In college, Yeah, put guards on skates. I mean, he's

1017
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 3: a nightmare, but at least not that like immediate win

1018
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 3: type of guy.

1019
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 2: You know, it takes him a little time to dance

1020
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 2: you like that with the ball? Yeah, sure, all right,

1021
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 2: let's go to the phones. Eight five to five past

1022
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 2: five hundred is the hotline. Matt's in Boston.

1023
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 12: What's up, Matt, Hey, guys, first time caller, long time listener.

1024
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 12: I really agree with what you guys were saying about yesterday.

1025
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 12: I'm feeling a lot better about like the actual NFL

1026
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 12: talent on the team and not just like these you know,

1027
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 12: end of the fiftiest man on.

1028
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 13: The roster guys starting for us. I'm really hoping we

1029
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 13: get our wide receiver one with Travis Hunter at pick four.

1030
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 13: But as far as the rest of the free agency go,

1031
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 13: do you think the pass could be making another move

1032
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 13: before the draft or like, what's the timetable on kind

1033
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,919
Speaker 13: of the rest of free agency after after the first

1034
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 13: forty eight hours that this.

1035
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, there were many many years where the

1036
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 2: Patriots were not participants in the first day and then

1037
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 2: they would make some moves later. This is a lot

1038
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 2: There's still a lot of things that are going to

1039
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 2: happen before the draft and even after the draft. So

1040
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 2: this roster is still.

1041
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 4: Still moves and I think the trade market is not dead.

1042
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 4: I think there could be a significant trade to happen.

1043
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think in free agency most of like the

1044
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 6: needle movers are off the board at this point. But

1045
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 6: just looking at you know, interior offensive line for example,

1046
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 6: like I still think there there are centers and guards

1047
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 6: out there that could start in the NFL on a team.

1048
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 4: You know, there's a guy from the Colts that signed

1049
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 4: with Minnesota that evidently the Patriots were, Yes, it is

1050
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 4: fries I don't French spelled. Reportedly they were. They were

1051
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 4: involved in him. So they're looking for that too. Interior

1052
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 4: smart left guard.

1053
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, left guard is a big spot I think for them.

1054
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 2: Still, Thanks Matt, Let's go to Joe in New Hampshire.

1055
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 2: What's up, Joe?

1056
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:39,720
Speaker 14: Hey, guys, how's going. So I was just thinking because

1057
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 14: seemingly every wide receiver in existence doesn't want to come

1058
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 14: to New England. Would you guys consider trading like a

1059
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 14: sixth or seventh round sick to get Cooper Cup just

1060
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 14: to make sure you have you don't have to.

1061
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he's saying, would you won't be released until tomorrow,

1062
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 4: He's saying, would you do it to make sure.

1063
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 14: You get Oh yeah, sure, give you your seventh and

1064
00:48:59,400 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 14: not release them?

1065
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 5: Yeah I would sure.

1066
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1067
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 14: Yeah, that's just my thoughts. And seemingly every wide receiver

1068
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 14: doesn't want to come here.

1069
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 15: But thanks guys, now, okay.

1070
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 6: Thanks, I'm coming.

1071
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,439
Speaker 2: I haven't heard anything specifically about Cooper Cup on where

1072
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 2: he'd like to know.

1073
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 4: But like when you're content, like everybody always says everybody

1074
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 4: else Every year when guys are made available, so and

1075
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 4: so has been given permission to seek a trade, and

1076
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 4: everybody says, why would you trade for him when he's

1077
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 4: going to get released?

1078
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 2: Because then you have to compete against that. That's why

1079
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 2: you trade for him, right.

1080
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 4: To make sure you get them if it's someone you

1081
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 4: really want, you Now, maybe they don't feel like that.

1082
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 4: Maybe they're like, well, I'll take them, but if I

1083
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 4: don't get them, it's no loss either, right like, and

1084
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 4: to your point about guys that shake free too, And

1085
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 4: this is why I think the trade market's not dead.

1086
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 4: A lot of times these free agent contracts. So the

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Speaker 4: Patriots spent what two hundred million yesterday and guarantee something

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Speaker 4: like that. So a lot of times you make these moves,

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Speaker 4: you don't know for sure you're going to have these

1090
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Speaker 4: moves get executed, and all of a sudden you do.

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Speaker 4: So now you look at it and say, okay, so

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Speaker 4: what's our cap look like? All right, well that's a

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00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 4: little less than we like to have as a pad

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Speaker 4: going into the season. So where can we trim some

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00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 4: fat that maybe we would have been content not to

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Speaker 4: trim had we not landed Milton Williams as an example,

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Speaker 4: you know. So that's you know, one hundred and you know,

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Speaker 4: one hundred and four million that we didn't necessarily know

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Speaker 4: for sure we were going to be adding. So now

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Speaker 4: that's what teams do. Like the Vikings spent a lot

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00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 4: of money yesterday too.

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Speaker 2: Do they think they spent the most?

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00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, and maybe there's somebody in Minnesota.

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Speaker 6: I will give you something for Jordan Addison.

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Speaker 4: There you go.

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Speaker 6: I don't know what that is, but I will give

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Speaker 6: you something.

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00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 4: You know, so maybe that doesn't require the fourth overall

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00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 4: pick that aj Brown would, but maybe it's a third

1110
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 4: round pick or something. I don't know. I'm just spitball,

1111
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 4: but Jordan Adison really good player, would be a really

1112
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 4: good fit for this team. Now. I don't think Minnesota's

1113
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 4: gonna let him go anywhere, but he's sort of been

1114
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 4: periodically wide receiver ish with Minnesota, you know, because he's

1115
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 4: obviously number two.

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00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 6: He's a streaky player. He was streaky in college too.

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00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 9: You know.

1118
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 6: He's one of those guys that will have a one

1119
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 6: hundred and fifty yard game and then the next week

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00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 6: we'll catch two passes, right, you know, it's a streaky player.

1121
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 6: But I'm coming around to Cooper Cup just because at

1122
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 6: this point, there's the chairs are circling and there are

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00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 6: not that many seats left, right.

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Speaker 4: I just feel like it just would add to your

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00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 4: ever growing list of third receivers. I want Cooper Cup.

1126
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 4: I actually want him because I do think he will

1127
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 4: help that room. But you need more talent at the position.

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Speaker 2: Yes, younger, Ian's in North Carolina. I hate Ian.

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Speaker 8: Hey guys, I hope you're doing well. First of all,

1130
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,479
Speaker 8: the whole Milton Williams thing. I think my Panthers friends

1131
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 8: are going to kill me being here in North Carolina

1132
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 8: in the contract negotiations. But I'm pretty confident after yesterday

1133
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 8: that there's going to be two quarterbacks off the board

1134
00:51:58,560 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 8: in the top three.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 8: I just think the Giants and the Browns, I just

1137
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 8: can't see them going forward with Kenny Pickett or any

1138
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 8: of those guys. I just think one of those three

1139
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 8: teams are going to take a quarterback, and then that

1140
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 8: board is gonna fall and we're gonna end up with

1141
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 8: a Carter or Hunter.

1142
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 6: Well, one of them is definitely going to take a quarterback,

1143
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 6: like cam Warden is going to go at the top

1144
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 6: of the draft.

1145
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 2: But that wasn't the way it was perceived when the

1146
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 2: draft talk started.

1147
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 4: We gonna Warden is QB one. You think he's gonna go,

1148
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 4: You guy, all of you guys U parlance Q one.

1149
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 6: Oh, you're above that, parlance.

1150
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 4: And then yeah, I just say, here's the top quarterback available.

1151
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 4: I mean I speak in English literally saying the same

1152
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 4: thing X. But he makes a good point because I

1153
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 4: forgot about that Kenny Pickett trade. That's another example of

1154
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 4: teams doing what Evan talked about. They're telling you they

1155
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 4: don't love these quarterbacks and that they're even gonna look

1156
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 4: look at a Kenny Pickett option as a possibility as

1157
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 4: a stop gap.

1158
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a nice market now for there's no used

1159
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 6: to be franchise quarterback, rookie deal quarterback, and there was

1160
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 6: no middle class to the quarterback market. Now because of

1161
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 6: Baker and Gino and Donald the project, now there is

1162
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 6: now a middle class to that. So Daniel Jones gets

1163
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 6: a decent amount of money, Kenny Pickett gets moved.

1164
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 2: Like what's the mac Jones market these days?

1165
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 6: Not great?

1166
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 4: That's another one. It's waiting great, that's another one. Now

1167
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 4: I would say he's a backup, he's a backup market.

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00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 4: I think Kenny Pickett is probably not completely I think

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00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 4: Kenny Pickett is similar to Donald when Donald was done

1170
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 4: with the Jets, and like Kenny Pickett didn't really have

1171
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 4: much success in Pittsburgh, but he wasn't a complete disaster.

1172
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 4: And you know, like Zach Wilson as an example, Yeah,

1173
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 4: who just signed with somebody Miami has a backup. Yeah,

1174
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 4: which is not a bad move from Miami. A team

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00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 4: that needs the backup, it's the guy that's actually played

1176
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 4: some games now as opposed to Skyler Thompson, and.

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Speaker 6: I mean Justin Fields gets gets a decent contract. They're

1178
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 6: they're telling you.

1179
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 4: That tell they're basically telling you anything, but cam Warden

1180
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Speaker 4: shoulde Sanders is a better option?

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Speaker 6: Well, I think definitely anything better than cam Ward I

1182
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 6: think has kind of cemented himself in the maybe a

1183
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,919
Speaker 6: little bit of a of a tier above everybody else

1184
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 6: in this draft. But yeah, Chador Jackson, Dart Will Howard,

1185
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Speaker 6: like all those guys, everybody is doesn't want to touch

1186
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Speaker 6: anything else in.

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Speaker 8: I was just gonna say, what about the Giant because

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00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 8: at three, I mean, they don't really need I mean,

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Speaker 8: of course that dual card it would be nice, but

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Speaker 8: they have a good, you know, pretty good D line

1191
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 8: already and they've added a depot and haul it to

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Speaker 8: their secondary right.

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Speaker 6: But you need two of those teams to take quarterbacks, right.

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Speaker 4: So if camp Ward goes one and the Giants don't

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Speaker 4: make another move, they're they're probably going to have to

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Speaker 4: look long and hard at Sanders. Yeah. Well, I think

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Speaker 4: that's why they're talking to Aaron Rodgers because they don't

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Speaker 4: want them.

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Speaker 2: But all right, thanks An, Thanks for the call.

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Speaker 4: All right, that's why I would root, if you're a

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Speaker 4: Patriots fan, root for Rogers to go to Pittsburgh. Yeah,

1202
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:15,919
Speaker 4: and then I think that almost forces the giant's hands,

1203
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 4: like you can't go in with Tommy Cutlets. You know,

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Speaker 4: it's a bad.

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Speaker 2: Spot to be spot all right, my food's here, so

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Speaker 2: we're gonna take a break. Lots of good talk emails

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Speaker 19: It's time now for another episode of Pats from the

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Speaker 19: Past podcast Matt Smith alongside Paul Parrillo. Please to be

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Speaker 19: joined by number seventy on your scorecard, but number one

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Speaker 19: in our hearts at least today.

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Speaker 4: Paul absolutely right next to that.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, and you'd better be careful. Yeah, and that's logan

1249
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 19: Nankins logan. Thanks for coming in.

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Speaker 5: How you doing, man, I'm doing great. Thanks for having

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00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 5: me us.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: You talked about being you know, selfless and you know,

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00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 4: like Richard was, but you obviously displayed that you talked about.

1255
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 4: Don't forget that you played tackle a little bit. Matt Scott.

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00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 4: You know that the anecdote from Dante about the day

1257
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,959
Speaker 4: that you had to play tackle like on a moment's notice.

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Speaker 16: So we were, we were.

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Speaker 19: This was your first year. Both Paul and I are

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Speaker 19: kind of embarrassed about it, to be perfect honest with that,

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00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 19: I want to put words in Paul's mouth. But we're

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Speaker 19: part of the Hall of Fame committee to select people

1263
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 19: to get on the ballot, and then legitimately when the

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Speaker 19: people get on the ballot, it's a fan vote, you know,

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Speaker 19: and as you can imagine, skill position, guys, you know

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Speaker 19: we're gonna get the fan vote. But this is the

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Speaker 19: first year that you were on that ballot, and so

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Speaker 19: it's part of one of the things that I do

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Speaker 19: here is, hey, who can who's a great person as

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00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 19: an ambassador for Richard Seymour, for Ty Law, for Teddy Bruski,

1271
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Speaker 19: for Logan Mankins, that can really speak to who that

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00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 19: person was as a player and why they deserve to

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Speaker 19: be why do they think they would be a great

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00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 19: Patriot Hall of Famer. And of course we went to Dante,

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00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 19: and so we're talking to Dante and he's giving you

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00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 19: all the platitudes that you could think of that Dante

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00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 19: would give you. Nobody tougher, comparing you as somebody who

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00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 19: did coach. He wasn't maybe an offensive line coach, but

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00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 19: he was on the team when Hannah was here, so

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Speaker 19: it's not blasphemy for him to mention your name and

1281
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 19: to me that that's an awful lot of credibility. But

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Speaker 19: we stopped after one point. All right, Donte, that was great.

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Speaker 19: He goes, I'd like to say one more thing. This

1284
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 19: is really important to me, and he talked about again

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Speaker 19: how selfless you were and the fact that I don't know,

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00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 19: I guess it was light probably who got hurt. And

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Speaker 19: you're playing the Ravens and you're guess what, Logan you're

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00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 19: playing tackle this week, and that's the Ravens with Terrell

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00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 19: Suggs and somebody like that. And he talked about how

1290
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 19: you nearly pitched a shutout that game, but that you

1291
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 19: were pissed on one particular play that maybe Suggs got

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00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 19: a hand up or maybe like sort of swept and

1293
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Speaker 19: knocked Tom down. And he talked about how pissed you

1294
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Speaker 19: were about that, and he goes, you know, it's okay

1295
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Speaker 19: for the quarterback to get rid of the ball. To logan,

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Speaker 19: don't blame that one on you. But that's how he thought.

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Speaker 19: That's how he felt about you. Do you remember that

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Speaker 19: game in that week having.

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Speaker 2: To kick out?

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Speaker 20: Yeah, I still remember. I shouldn't have got beat on

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00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 20: that one. I just went sat a little too far.

1302
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 20: I got feeling too comfortable and he got me.

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00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 5: On it up an under. But uh yeah, those games

1304
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Speaker 5: we uh.

1305
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 20: I actually liked going out to tackle every now and then,

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01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 20: just I don't know, it was fun just to change

1307
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 20: it up every now and then.

1308
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 6: But that was the second time.

1309
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 20: The first time I played tackle, I didn't find out

1310
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 20: untill like twenty minutes before the game, So that one

1311
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 20: was a little tougher. But the one against the Ravens

1312
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 20: was nice because I actually got the practice all week

1313
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 20: at tackle, so that was a lot better. But it

1314
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 20: was I liked tackle.

1315
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 5: It was fun.

1316
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 4: Was what was the other one?

1317
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 20: Miami am home? And then one time I had to

1318
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 20: play the second half, I think against the Texans or something,

1319
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 20: so that was the backup tackle.

1320
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 4: It amazes me, like what does he say, like, yeah,

1321
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 4: I got, I set to wide, I got, I got

1322
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 4: up and under it, like it was probably twenty years

1323
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 4: ago at this point.

1324
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 2: Like exactly you remember your bad place.

1325
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 5: It amazed the good ones.

1326
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 4: Oh, I can tell you about the tape measure home

1327
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 4: runs I allowed in college. I don't want to get

1328
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 4: to that's another podcast for a different time, right, just

1329
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 4: you know, again, I want to stay with the teammate

1330
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 4: and the selflessness and the season you played on a

1331
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 4: twenty C L. Well, you know, Philip Rivers played a quarterback,

1332
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 4: you know, in the AOC Championship game against you guys

1333
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 4: on a twenty A CL and I think it was

1334
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 4: one of the more heroic performances I've seen. You played

1335
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 4: a whole season like that. I like, how do you

1336
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 4: how do you do that?

1337
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 20: I don't know, they said maybe I was used to

1338
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 20: having a loose knee or something. I don't know, but

1339
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 20: I had to wear one of those weird braces for

1340
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 20: most of the year and herd for the first couple

1341
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 20: of games, and then it just kind of went away.

1342
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 20: So and then after the season we went and saw

1343
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 20: the doctor and he's like, this thing's been torn a

1344
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 20: long time.

1345
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 4: Oh so you didn't realize it until we didn't.

1346
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 20: Know it was fully torn. It's one of those doctors

1347
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 20: just kind of shook it around and said, well, what

1348
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 20: do you think. And I was like, well, let me

1349
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 20: give it a shot this week at practice and he's

1350
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 20: like all right. And then I got through drills, I

1351
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 20: was like, we'll just go with it. He's like, all right, well,

1352
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 20: we need to get it checked out later.

1353
01:01:56,440 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 4: So see, people think that sometimes you overstate just how

1354
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 4: matter of fact people are about things. This is logan making.

1355
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 4: This is how he was in the locker room after games.

1356
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 4: He would talk about, you know, the game plan and

1357
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 4: what they did well, and it was the same level

1358
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 4: of intensity and just matter of fact everything. Yeah, well

1359
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 4: you know, what do you think? Yeah, well, I can

1360
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 4: give it a shout at practice. I can see if

1361
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 4: I could play. He had a twenty cl right, and

1362
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 4: it's like it's his job. There's no big deal. I'm

1363
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 4: just going to go out and get the job done.

1364
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 19: Do you get embarrassed when you hear that logan? Like

1365
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 19: people like Paul and I want to keep praise on

1366
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 19: you for that. You're an offensive lineman. You probably don't

1367
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 19: give a sugar about Like, yeah, that's what I was

1368
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 19: supposed to do.

1369
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 2: Well.

1370
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 20: Everyone loves to be praised, but I do get embarrassed

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01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 20: when it's in front of me.

1372
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Speaker 5: I'd rather.

1373
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 4: Embarrass you, believe me. And I'm not like you know,

1374
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 4: I've been. I've been Matt and I have been here

1375
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 4: for over twenty years. So it's like, you know, it's

1376
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 4: not like the wide eyed Chris Farley on Saday Night Live,

1377
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 4: like that was awesome. You know, I'm not in awe,

1378
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 4: you know, but but that's an awesome and are inspiring.

1379
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 4: That's season.

1380
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 19: Most people, sadly today at work have the sniffles and

1381
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 19: they're down for three days, do you know what I mean?

1382
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 19: And so when somebody says no, it's important to go

1383
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 19: to work and I might not be feeling one hundred percent,

1384
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 19: but I still think I can do my job. Yeah,

1385
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 19: it's that's different.

1386
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's well.

1387
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 20: I think people used to ask me why I did it,

1388
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 20: and I was like, well, my dad always said, if

1389
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 20: you can go to work, you go to work. And

1390
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 20: he always joked to just tape an aspirinto it and

1391
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 20: you'll be all right.

1392
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 17: Did you try it?

1393
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 4: But it was it was fine.

1394
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 20: It hurt for a while and then it went away,

1395
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 20: and then it's just uh.

1396
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 2: I really noticed it.

1397
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 20: As the season went on, there was no more squatting

1398
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 20: in the weight room, like that stuff was not happening anymore.

1399
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 20: Or if you like tried to walk down an incline,

1400
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 20: you could feel your knee slideing it. So thankfully the

1401
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 20: football fields aren't inclined.

1402
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 4: I think you know, your league is filled with really,

1403
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 4: really tough players, and like, I mean, I see what

1404
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 4: you guys go through. I remember the other Algie Crumpler

1405
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 4: was here. I don't know if you guys crossed. I

1406
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 4: forget the timeline, but what he went through to play

1407
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 4: every week was ridiculous and you could see the toughness.

1408
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 4: But I think a lot of people in your situation,

1409
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 4: Logan would have said, this is my career. I have

1410
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 4: a finite amount of time to earn money, and if

1411
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 4: I play in a torn a cl it might affect

1412
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 4: my performance, it could affect my salary. Down the loop,

1413
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 4: they're gonna probably look to, you know, maybe take a

1414
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 4: haircut next year or if I'm going to be a

1415
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 4: free agent. But yet you put all that aside and

1416
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 4: just said, no, I have a job to do and

1417
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 4: I'm going to go out and do it.

1418
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 2: Well, I was fortunate.

1419
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 20: I just signed a big contract.

1420
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 2: And then.

1421
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 20: Guys around the league that would get this big deal

1422
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 20: and then they would get hurt, and.

1423
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 4: I was like, this is what people do, and those

1424
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 4: guys are tough to I'm in our locker room.

1425
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 20: I would make fun of guys like that, and so

1426
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 20: then I'm possibly hurt, not one hundred percent knowing if

1427
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 20: I'm heard or not. And I'm like, well, I don't

1428
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 20: want to be that guy that I've been ragging on

1429
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 20: for my whole.

1430
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 2: Career already, right, you don't want to be a fraud? Yeah?

1431
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 4: Right?

1432
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 20: And up until that point, I what was that my

1433
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 20: sixth year, I'd never missed a practice or game. So

1434
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 20: I was like, I can't I can't start getting hurt now.

1435
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 20: Then I did get a few practices off that year.

1436
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 4: So then nice a bill.

1437
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 18: And now great moments in.

1438
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 5: History.

1439
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 6: Oh, I got what's the bad guy? What's the mat

1440
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 6: a guy?

1441
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 10: Twice this week. I'm mad at my kid. I'm mad

1442
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 10: at myself kid, more than I'm master. Is not what

1443
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 10: I usually do, because I've learned over the years. Ninety five.

1444
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 10: Even though it's a short distance from two ninety five

1445
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 10: to four ninety five, that little stretch there, it's usually

1446
01:05:56,880 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 10: where all the messes happen. So I've learned, get get

1447
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 10: off at the Emerald Square exit at two ninety five,

1448
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 10: which is Root one, and just take Root one all

1449
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 10: the way up here. Never any problems. Ever today today

1450
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 10: I was like, you know what, it's the middle, it's

1451
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 10: the late morning. It should be fine. It could happen.

1452
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 4: It's supposed to be one of the busiest traffic happened,

1453
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 4: you know in recent memories, so Eric said, So I said,

1454
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 4: only there's traffic.

1455
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 2: But today I'm going to roll the at rush hour.

1456
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 2: There's usually traffic.

1457
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 10: So I'm like, oh, it's it's quarter of eleven in

1458
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 10: the morning. What could possibly go wrong? Well, some jackass

1459
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 10: drove into the median there.

1460
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 4: And the newest bread er jackknife on the Santa Anna.

1461
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 10: His his car is like stuck in trees in the

1462
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 10: meeting an awful mess, and there's like I'm stuck in

1463
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:44,919
Speaker 10: traffic and there are literally people like trying to get

1464
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 10: through on the breakdown lanes to try to get by,

1465
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 10: and all of a sudden, your hand, all the sirens

1466
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 10: are coming. There's cop after cop and then fire truck

1467
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 10: after fire truck, rescue squad. By the time we got

1468
01:06:56,840 --> 01:07:00,919
Speaker 10: up to the accident, there were a half dozen fire

1469
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 10: trucks blocking the passing lane because the sky literally there's

1470
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 10: like you know how some of the medians have like

1471
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 10: they dip down, but there's like vegetation and trees and stuff.

1472
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 6: This guy drove his car into.

1473
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 5: The trees about five minutes later.

1474
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 10: And then earlier this week we had that thing down

1475
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 10: in one our webmaster got stuck in it too. It

1476
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 10: was Monday or Tuesday.

1477
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, hey, how'll we going traffic on the threes.

1478
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 2: That's another great moment from all right back here on

1479
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 2: Patriots on Filterday. Five to five past five hundred is

1480
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 2: the Hotline podcast at Patriots dot com. Is the email

1481
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 2: address you like that? I like Matt making fun of

1482
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 2: Eric traffic talk. We all have it in common weather

1483
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 2: traffic story, Hansle.

1484
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 6: Of the Chop. You know, I don't think I could

1485
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 6: have worked with Eric too much non football talk.

1486
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 5: You guys have no use for each other.

1487
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, I couldn't.

1488
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 2: In terms of like how two people would approach the

1489
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 2: same job, I can't think of two people more diametrically opposed.

1490
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 6: I'm going to take that as a compliment.

1491
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 4: Yeah you should.

1492
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 2: I mean Eric hated it here. You actually like football.

1493
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 4: Eric wrote a good feature Wilid writer. Eric could solid

1494
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 4: down and talk to a player and write a really

1495
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:28,679
Speaker 4: good story about that player.

1496
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 2: Absolutely, no, it would take two months.

1497
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 4: It's their point. There's a seventh senterpoint. But he would

1498
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 4: not necessarily want to do like like because he.

1499
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:42,639
Speaker 2: Used to do the like the review, the bridgetone review.

1500
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 4: He used to used to do that, but he wouldn't

1501
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 4: do it anywhere near now as in depth as Evan.

1502
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 2: No, no no interest in that, all right again A

1503
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,719
Speaker 2: five to five past five hundred is the Hotline podcast

1504
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:57,600
Speaker 2: at patries dot com. Is the email address, and you

1505
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 2: can sign up for the newsletter by going to Patriots

1506
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 2: dot com slash pu newsletter and you want to do that.

1507
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 2: It's a lot of fun. We're trying to convince Deuce

1508
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 2: to get a dog this week.

1509
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 4: So the letter it is not going well.

1510
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 5: We'll see, we'll see.

1511
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 2: All right, Let's get back to the phone. Really stacked

1512
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 2: Patty's inn Agawa. What's up Patty.

1513
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 4: Going on?

1514
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 2: Hey?

1515
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 11: Hey, So I just want to say I'm one Paul's camp.

1516
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 11: I would trade the fourth overall picks for a J. Brown.

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01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 11: I'm not I'm not sure if he's listening, but maybe

1518
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 11: oh man, Miguel can help me out. I think they're

1519
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 11: I think I read somewhere that if they trade him,

1520
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 11: or if they move on from him, like outright release

1521
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 11: him before June first, I think they're they're on the

1522
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 11: hook for like some crazy fifty million dollars or something

1523
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 11: like that of dead cat money. So I don't think.

1524
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 11: I don't think they'd be willing to part ways with

1525
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:58,800
Speaker 11: him for the fourth overall pick. But I mean, if

1526
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 11: the option was out there, I would do it. And

1527
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 11: to kind of piggyback off of what Ian said, I

1528
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 11: you know Brian Daball and I don't know the Giants

1529
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:12,600
Speaker 11: CM's name, but there their jobs are on the line here, Bro,

1530
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 11: I don't I'm not sure if they look at what

1531
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 11: happened last year in New York with the Jets and

1532
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 11: how volatile of a player and personality that Aaron Rodgers is,

1533
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 11: that they would want to bring him in. And to me,

1534
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 11: maybe maybe I'm just just throwing it out there and

1535
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:31,760
Speaker 11: to the ether, but I don't think they're gonna want

1536
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 11: to choose Aaron Rodgers the quarterback their team next year,

1537
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:36,640
Speaker 11: and I could definitely see them going with Shadora, And.

1538
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,640
Speaker 4: I think it's the opposite. I think because they're so

1539
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 4: desperate to save their jobs, they need to win games now.

1540
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 4: And I'm not telling you they're gonna win games with

1541
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:47,839
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers, but they're not gonna win games with Shedeah Sanders.

1542
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 4: There's at least a chance that Aaron Rodgers has an

1543
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 4: attack of conscience and decides to prepare for an NFL

1544
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 4: season and it actually puts his best foot forward and

1545
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 4: tries to help the Giants win games. Hideau Sanders is

1546
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 4: not going to be ready yet to do that, So

1547
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 4: I think it's the opposite. I think if you were

1548
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 4: a team that was a little bit more comfortable in

1549
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 4: that spot, you know, like the Raiders just made a

1550
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 4: coaching change, if the Raiders were picking third. They just

1551
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 4: made a coaching change. Let's say they didn't, they didn't

1552
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 4: do the Gino Smith thing. They'd be more apt to

1553
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,560
Speaker 4: go with Sidors Sanders because there's no urgent. They're not

1554
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 4: going to get fired in year one. Yeah, you know,

1555
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:28,799
Speaker 4: unless it really goes sideways on them, they could afford

1556
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 4: to do that. I think the urgency for Dabo and

1557
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 4: Shane right now is we got to find a way

1558
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 4: to win some games.

1559
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 6: I can't believe change, Like I can't believe he survived,

1560
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 6: right to use those words carefully, but I can't believe

1561
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 6: that he's.

1562
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 2: I mean, the Giants might be the single reason why

1563
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:46,639
Speaker 2: no team wanted to do the offseason hard notch.

1564
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 6: I mean, and it's not just Sakwon Barkley, like his

1565
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 6: kid telling him to draft Jayden Daniels and him like

1566
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 6: laughing it off, and then seeing what happened with Jayden Daniels,

1567
01:11:56,439 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 6: Like the look on his face at the podium at

1568
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:01,720
Speaker 6: the Combine was just.

1569
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 3: Like, I know, first question out of the gate, and

1570
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 3: you had to know what was coming.

1571
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of I know, I know, I know we're

1572
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,320
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Speaker 5: So there you go.

1587
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:12,520
Speaker 2: Yep. League year starts Wednesday.

1588
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 6: Right Wednesday at four.

1589
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 2: Wednesday at four, I got my haircut, you're right ready

1590
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 2: for it? Went to Ga barbershop down the street here

1591
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:23,600
Speaker 2: in Foxborough. Make sure I'm ready to go for the

1592
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 2: opening of the league year. So ready to read the

1593
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:31,640
Speaker 2: league has been open for well, yeah, negotiations officially that

1594
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 2: all the contracts start.

1595
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 6: I think we should just like send the negotiation period

1596
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:39,600
Speaker 6: starts in Indianapolis at the Combine, and then like we

1597
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 6: just do this whole this whole song and dance.

1598
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 2: It's okay, yep, uh back to the phones, Willams and film.

1599
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:47,799
Speaker 2: What's up? Willem?

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01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 15: Hey, how you doing good?

1601
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 2: You're gonna send us your picture so that we can

1602
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 2: get it into the UH guess the listener contest?

1603
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 15: Sure, tell me to just just tell me what I

1604
01:13:58,439 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 15: need to do.

1605
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 2: Just email our picture, your picture of the podcast at

1606
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:04,600
Speaker 2: patriots dot com. You're one of our regular callers, so

1607
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 2: you're eligible.

1608
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 15: Yeah, you've got no problem.

1609
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 9: Okay, Okay, where do I begin?

1610
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 15: Well, first of all, I'll say in terms of what

1611
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,640
Speaker 15: they what the Patriots have done and previously, that's how

1612
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 15: you do it. That's well, that's somewhat how you do it.

1613
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 15: That's better than last year. Oh merg that's way better.

1614
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 15: And I have nothing too much to say about that.

1615
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 15: But you still have to take care of that tackle

1616
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 15: and that wide receiver position, I mean mac Hollands. Okay,

1617
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:39,560
Speaker 15: you know, but I'm not impressed, not by that, no, no,

1618
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 15: But I want to talk about something about parts with

1619
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,800
Speaker 15: UH with Douce and then something with Evan real fast,

1620
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 15: and then I'm out, y'all we uh, dude, you say,

1621
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 15: I'm always with you, build through the draft, mister Craft

1622
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 15: even instead of hisself, build through the draft, build to

1623
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 15: the draft. But I just want to put this out

1624
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 15: there for you. Okay, two years of a rebuild, seven

1625
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 15: years of bad draft. We don't even we don't need

1626
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 15: to go into who why, that's why that happened. But

1627
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 15: this team has not proven as far as I can

1628
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 15: even remember, basically that they can build a receiver. Forget

1629
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:18,560
Speaker 15: Julian of them because they took him a minute, so

1630
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 15: I'm not put him out the way. But can you

1631
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 15: actually say if they draft two receivers from this draft.

1632
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 15: I can name a couple of names, but I'm going

1633
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:34,639
Speaker 15: to that. Just do you think they can build a receiver?

1634
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:37,639
Speaker 15: You know what I mean? Since they can't, they can't.

1635
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 15: Evidently they can't bring one in. They don't want to

1636
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:42,760
Speaker 15: come here. We already know why on top of it,

1637
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:44,720
Speaker 15: and you don't want to get into a bidding war

1638
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 15: trying to get a receiver. So, like you said, build

1639
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 15: through the draft. But my problem is with them, I'm

1640
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 15: scared for them, for this team for seven years. I mean,

1641
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 15: look how many receivers you passed on or even that

1642
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:58,160
Speaker 15: you tried to get it and you.

1643
01:15:58,200 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 11: Couldn't even build them up.

1644
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 15: So do you have do you feel like they.

1645
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 2: Can do this? Well, here's the hope. I get what

1646
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 2: you're saying, history is not good but right, But here's

1647
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 2: the hope. When you say they haven't had good luck,

1648
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 2: who are they? They is different now? They are different.

1649
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 2: The assistant coach, the only I guess McDaniels is still

1650
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:24,439
Speaker 2: in the mix, but overall they is different. And if

1651
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 2: you believe that Rabel's running the show, even Elliott Wolf

1652
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:32,440
Speaker 2: isn't the guy who would be possibly making this potential

1653
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 2: pick of a wide receiver, it would be Rabel and

1654
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 2: maybe Ryan Cowden. So that's my hope is that they

1655
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 2: is different now. So let's see how these days do.

1656
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:45,720
Speaker 5: I hope so with Fred.

1657
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 3: I hope with Fred's saying, But I think there's also

1658
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 3: a lot of truth to what William's saying in that

1659
01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 3: Elliott Wolf was here last year and picked receivers, and

1660
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:54,560
Speaker 3: Josh has been here and you know, had struggles with

1661
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 3: So I think that there's truth on both sides.

1662
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 4: I just I try not to put too much weight

1663
01:16:58,560 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 4: on what's happened in the past.

1664
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 3: At some point they've got to just get lucky and

1665
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 3: hit a receiver. But you're you're totally right, William. I

1666
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 3: mean that's a huge part. And I you know, we

1667
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 3: spent so much time chasing the number one. I just

1668
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 3: want good, productive receivers that you know can fit in.

1669
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 2: I agree, you know, I I I don't know.

1670
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:15,639
Speaker 3: You're You're totally right, though. We got to be pulling

1671
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 3: our hair out trying to find one of these guys.

1672
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 3: Seems like you should have just hit one randomly at

1673
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 3: this point.

1674
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 2: And then they draft Jakobe Myers and they got rid

1675
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 2: of them, right, the.

1676
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:26,599
Speaker 3: Only guy who's did anything close evening being a solid player,

1677
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:27,640
Speaker 3: he just picked him up.

1678
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 6: I mean, their best receivers over the last couple, you know,

1679
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:32,560
Speaker 6: half decade or Pop Douglass in the sixth round and

1680
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,639
Speaker 6: Jacoby Myers as an undrafted free agent. So that tells

1681
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:36,600
Speaker 6: you everything you need to know.

1682
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 17: Yeah, but.

1683
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 15: Dude, you know, I'm with you, you know, I mean

1684
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:43,760
Speaker 15: every year you always say when we get around this time,

1685
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:46,600
Speaker 15: you always say it. Please understand, I'm always with you.

1686
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:50,680
Speaker 15: Is just now mak Role is still there, man. I

1687
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 15: don't believe in him. I don't think none of y'all

1688
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 15: should now. I just but with Mark Raboo there and

1689
01:17:57,840 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 15: a couple of people did, maybe this could be a

1690
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 15: little differ. So just one more thing and I'm done now,

1691
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 15: our kid Evan, you and Alex up here pumping that

1692
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 15: DK metcalf right. That was pretty I would say. I say, okay,

1693
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:15,679
Speaker 15: I was with y'all with that, but I forgot to think.

1694
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 9: About this with I.

1695
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:19,679
Speaker 15: DK didn't want to come me. I mean, you YouTube gentlemen.

1696
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 15: I told y'all, y'all my favorites. You know what I mean,

1697
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 15: y'all really are you and Alice? You know just y'all

1698
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 15: talk about this for years about us trying to have

1699
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 15: a receiver. I don't care who it was whatever, If

1700
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 15: it's justin Jefferson, Rapids, Jamarsha, whoever. I didn't care. Even

1701
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 15: when y'all did the YouTube thing y'all had at one time.

1702
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 2: I'm just.

1703
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 11: Do you do you think we can do it this time?

1704
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 15: Like, oh, we're gonna wait till another year?

1705
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 9: This this is what you're want?

1706
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 15: When you and Alice gonna tell us one catch swing too,

1707
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 15: y'all gonna tell us, well, we all wait, kick the

1708
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:49,640
Speaker 15: can and wait till next year and the draft. The

1709
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:51,640
Speaker 15: receiver cord gonna be better for next year. That's what

1710
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 15: you're gonna tell me or.

1711
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 6: Tell us no, I know, and and both of us

1712
01:18:57,080 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 6: were pretty gung ho or just banging the table for

1713
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 6: them to make that DK Metcalf trade. And as it

1714
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 6: turns out, you know, they it went for a second

1715
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:08,720
Speaker 6: round pick. They had a higher second round pick to

1716
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 6: offer to Seattle than Pittsburgh did, so you would think

1717
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 6: that they had the better offer on the table. And

1718
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 6: you know, that one was a tough one, that one

1719
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 6: came across in both Alex and I were pretty bummed

1720
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:19,639
Speaker 6: about that for about ten minutes.

1721
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, you know, yeah se DK Metcalf and said, yeah,

1722
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 2: you know.

1723
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 6: I mean that's a nice that's a nice story. To

1724
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:29,600
Speaker 6: stomach it a little bit better, I suppose is that

1725
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 6: he just wasn't too interested in coming here. I that

1726
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 6: contract is massive as well, so you know, you never

1727
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 6: know what that sort of thing. But this is why

1728
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 6: I said at the beginning of the show that I

1729
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 6: think we're just getting to the point now where at

1730
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 6: the top of the draft, not you know, it's yeah,

1731
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 6: they've missed on Day two receivers, they've missed on you know,

1732
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 6: Jalen Polk wasn't great his rookie year. But if you're

1733
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 6: drafting a guy in the top ten, that's a different

1734
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 6: level of talent than what you're getting.

1735
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 2: It's possible that they put all their chips on Godwin

1736
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 2: and that just fell through. Like they thought, there's no

1737
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:02,760
Speaker 2: way we're not we're going to get out bid and

1738
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 2: they weren't. But they didn't count on god when just

1739
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 2: turning down the money.

1740
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's definitely possible. I mean, I think I it's

1741
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 6: a tough one because right they do have bodies that

1742
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 6: wide receiver. But like my point being though, is like

1743
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 6: how many of these guys are you really going to

1744
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 6: have on the roster come Week one? And are you

1745
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 6: going to completely take out the opportunity for a Polk,

1746
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 6: a Baker, a Booty, you know, any of those guys

1747
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 6: to have any sort of role on this team, Because

1748
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 6: if you're signing Cooper Cup when he becomes a free

1749
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:37,680
Speaker 6: agent and drafting a receiver in the first round and

1750
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 6: you signed Matt Collins, then like those guys are kind

1751
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:43,720
Speaker 6: of out right, you know, like that, and maybe that's

1752
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:46,280
Speaker 6: for the best. But I'm just saying, you know, that's

1753
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 6: the other element of it too that I just come

1754
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 6: back to, is you know, how many wide receiver two

1755
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 6: through fives are you going to have on one roster?

1756
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 4: Like you probably not in this case three slash four

1757
01:20:57,080 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 4: through five. Sure, I don't think they have anybody even

1758
01:20:59,360 --> 01:20:59,680
Speaker 4: worthy of.

1759
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 2: But that's like the hard part is like, so what

1760
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 2: do you do?

1761
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:04,720
Speaker 3: Do you just discard the three to fives that you

1762
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:06,519
Speaker 3: have and get some other three to fives and hope

1763
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:07,960
Speaker 3: that they may be developed into one and.

1764
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:09,360
Speaker 5: Twos, or do you you know?

1765
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 3: I mean, I keep somebody numbers reminding myself that Josh

1766
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 3: is the offensive coindner. I keep forgetting that, and I'm

1767
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 3: kind of like just really intrigued by him looking at

1768
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 3: this step chart, and what does he think? Does he

1769
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 3: think there's nothing there? Does he think that I think

1770
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 3: I can get something out of this guy? I mean,

1771
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 3: obviously got some stuff out of Mac Collins, not going

1772
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 3: to be I hope it's the.

1773
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 4: Former, to be honest, you know, I hope he's looking

1774
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 4: at and saying we need better than this. Not I

1775
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 4: can get more out of these guys, But just how.

1776
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:32,600
Speaker 5: Do you execute it.

1777
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 3: You know, like you have ten on the roster, you

1778
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 3: can't cut six guys have to.

1779
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:40,599
Speaker 4: Happen today, right, But like I can. You know, they've

1780
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 4: won four games the last two years, Mike, right, you know,

1781
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 4: and I know that you're okay with that because you

1782
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 4: used to hate winning twelve.

1783
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 2: You're sick of those.

1784
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 4: It's been a couple of weeks since I said that

1785
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 4: to you. But we don't have to have it all

1786
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 4: fixed all at once. But I would hope that Josh

1787
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 4: doesn't look at this and say, coach these guys up.

1788
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 4: I can get more out of this, like maybe one

1789
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 4: to do what it is like, some guys will have

1790
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:08,680
Speaker 4: better number. Listen, it can't get any worse for jay

1791
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 4: Von Baker and Jalen Poe, Right, if they're going to

1792
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:13,720
Speaker 4: be on the Patriots in twenty twenty five, can we

1793
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 4: assume they're going to play better than they did last

1794
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 4: year if they're here, if they play at all, if

1795
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 4: they hear, they're going to do more than they did

1796
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:26,879
Speaker 4: last year. Right to Mario Douglas, chances are with Josh's offense,

1797
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 4: if it's something like what he's done, it's gonna there's

1798
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 4: gonna be some volume there for him. You know, Kendrick

1799
01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 4: Bourne had a decent year with him in twenty twenty one. Right,

1800
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 4: So all of that said, if all of that happens,

1801
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 4: I don't think they're good enough at that position, but

1802
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 4: I do think he'll make it better. Josh will make

1803
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 4: that that aspect of the passing game better.

1804
01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:52,519
Speaker 6: Right, Like, No, I don't think anyone suggesting that they're

1805
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 6: good enough. I just wonder there is there a line

1806
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 6: between the Cooper Cups of the world that are kind

1807
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:03,640
Speaker 6: of on their last legs and trying to keep that

1808
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:04,759
Speaker 6: room a little bit younger.

1809
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 4: Right, we'll push a young guy off the roster for

1810
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:10,720
Speaker 4: a j Brown? Are we willing to do that for

1811
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 4: MATC Collins and Cooper Copp?

1812
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 16: Right?

1813
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:12,600
Speaker 2: Right?

1814
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 4: Right? Is you're basically your question.

1815
01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 2: Yea, Let's go to Boston where Chris is calling in

1816
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 2: from What's up?

1817
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 4: Chris? Chris?

1818
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:28,720
Speaker 2: Chris is no longer calling in from Boston, So we'll

1819
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:32,160
Speaker 2: head over to New York where Jeffrey is calling in.

1820
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 4: What's up?

1821
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 2: Jeffrey? Jeffrey going once twice three times.

1822
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 4: That when we're talking about the you know, the depth

1823
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 4: chart is and I would agree with you. I would

1824
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:48,719
Speaker 4: be hesitant. As much as I've been critical of Baker

1825
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:50,720
Speaker 4: and Polk, I'd be hesitant to just say, well, that's it.

1826
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:55,800
Speaker 4: They stank they you know, right. So, But I wonder

1827
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:58,600
Speaker 4: if it's like a Kendrick Bourne. You know, some of

1828
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 4: the guys that have had a chance, you know, a

1829
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:02,720
Speaker 4: little bit to be more than they've shown to be

1830
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 4: as NFL players. Maybe you take one of those guys

1831
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:08,240
Speaker 4: and say, well, Matt Collins has been more productive, more consistently,

1832
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 4: he can push Kendrick Bourne off the roster. Maybe you

1833
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:11,800
Speaker 4: know what I mean.

1834
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:13,679
Speaker 2: But if you sign a Cooper Cup to me, Kendrick

1835
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 2: Bourne is gone.

1836
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:16,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think he might be gone anyway, Okay,

1837
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 4: is what I'm saying.

1838
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:20,559
Speaker 6: I wonder if Kendrick Bourne has any sort of trade

1839
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 6: value within the framework of a bigger trade Like not

1840
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 6: necessarily we're going to.

1841
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 4: Get an Action Brown for Kendrick, right, But I'm saying

1842
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 4: if you're if you throw Milton in.

1843
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 6: If you're a team like I thought that a team

1844
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:37,640
Speaker 6: like Seattle, if you had offered them thirty eight and

1845
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 6: Kendrick Bourne for DK Metcalf, that might have been enticing

1846
01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 6: to them because it gives them an NFL.

1847
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 4: Receiver to break A great point was that Alex. Did

1848
01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 4: Alex come up with that?

1849
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:50,799
Speaker 6: I'm sure because I know he was the DK Metcalf

1850
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:53,120
Speaker 6: he would have he would have traded four overall for

1851
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 6: DK Metcalf. But uh, you know, like something like that.

1852
01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 6: I feel like, you know, let's talk about San Francisco again.

1853
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 6: They or supposedly we're going to take Kendrick Bourne back

1854
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 6: into Brandon Nyuk trade. It was two four and Kendrick

1855
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 6: Bourne for Brandon Ayuk. Now, maybe you don't have to

1856
01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 6: give up all those picks anymore for Brandon Ayuk. But

1857
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 6: can you do you give up a three in Kendrick

1858
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:15,880
Speaker 6: Bourne for Brandon Nayuk? You know, like I just wonder

1859
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 6: if he has some value just because he is kind

1860
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:20,760
Speaker 6: of like a plug and play guy for a lot

1861
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 6: of he's.

1862
01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 2: An NFL player.

1863
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 6: Yeah right, you check anybody.

1864
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he came free.

1865
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 6: I can't believe that one. I know, I thought there's

1866
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:30,559
Speaker 6: no way Kyle.

1867
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:34,360
Speaker 4: Mister mister fullback, got rid of arguably the best fullback

1868
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:34,840
Speaker 4: of all time.

1869
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I couldn't believe that.

1870
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 2: I you know, look at him.

1871
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:43,599
Speaker 4: You're in sure, Patriots, I know, social the social crowd

1872
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 4: is eager for that to happen because of missus shut.

1873
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:48,960
Speaker 2: I still want Yakub Johnson, but I'll take you check.

1874
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 5: Double full back offense.

1875
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 4: If we're going to have a fullback. That's my style

1876
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:54,920
Speaker 4: of fullback, a guy who can make plays, not just

1877
01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 4: be a battering ram.

1878
01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 6: It concerns me that Kyle doesn't see him as a.

1879
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:04,640
Speaker 4: Buy, that Kyle doesn't see him the way I do,

1880
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 4: that he doesn't if he like.

1881
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 6: Kyle Shannon, no debo know him.

1882
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 5: Those are big people.

1883
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:12,519
Speaker 6: Kyle used Check as Kyle Shanahan is like getting rid

1884
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 6: of his son. So like the fact that he's telling

1885
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 6: you that he might not have anything left is concerning.

1886
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 6: If I was a team that was.

1887
01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 3: You're a transition for saying for the school a little bit.

1888
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna pay the quarterbacks.

1889
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:27,799
Speaker 2: Eldred's in North Carolina? Hey Aldred?

1890
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:33,679
Speaker 4: Hey good?

1891
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 2: Hey?

1892
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:40,680
Speaker 21: I got three rings? Three rings? Okay, DK metcalf s

1893
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 21: trade what the rappaport?

1894
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:44,400
Speaker 9: Who was the team?

1895
01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:46,519
Speaker 21: I did to offer the third and they would paid

1896
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:48,760
Speaker 21: d k DK. But get who that.

1897
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 4: Team was.

1898
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 21: And he got fitted by Pitchburg England.

1899
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:54,240
Speaker 2: Is that right?

1900
01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:58,719
Speaker 21: Yes, sir stuck and rant that he did on Network

1901
01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:02,679
Speaker 21: The stuck and rand is. Okay, have y'all been paying

1902
01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 21: attention what Chicago is doing with Williams Washington is doing

1903
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 21: with Daniel Yeah, okay. They traded with Houston to get

1904
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:20,720
Speaker 21: a good tackle tunsle a future sucking a third this year,

1905
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:24,639
Speaker 21: third and a seventh and they get they get houston

1906
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 21: sixth back this year. You wouldn't do that for Larry Thompson,

1907
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 21: for you, for your quarterback.

1908
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:32,560
Speaker 2: No, No, I think I think as much as the

1909
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:35,600
Speaker 2: Commanders get compared to the Patriots, I think they're in

1910
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:37,800
Speaker 2: a better position to do what to.

1911
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:40,720
Speaker 21: Do because they were in the playoffs last year.

1912
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:41,680
Speaker 11: I understand that.

1913
01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 21: But what I'm saying is like they're doing everything to

1914
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:47,920
Speaker 21: support their young quarterback. I don't see then you gonna

1915
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:50,879
Speaker 21: doing that for the last two years. I just can't understand.

1916
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 2: Wolf.

1917
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, I understand what you're saying,

1918
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 4: and I do, like you know, from the outside. Uh,

1919
01:27:57,120 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 4: Chicago has added three starting offensive linemen and this is

1920
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:04,760
Speaker 4: not a small statement. That was the worst offensive line

1921
01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 4: I've ever seen that day that they played the Patriots

1922
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:09,800
Speaker 4: last year. That was guys that had no ability to

1923
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:12,400
Speaker 4: even get in the way of anybody. The Patriot of

1924
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 4: nine sacks that day. They had twenty eight all year,

1925
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 4: they had nine of them that day. That was the

1926
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 4: worst offensive line. That's part of my reasoning here, thank you.

1927
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 4: They couldn't even block the gunner. That's the worst offensive

1928
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:30,519
Speaker 4: line performance I've ever and I just knock them out

1929
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:33,759
Speaker 4: it that's what I do. So I understand what Eldrid

1930
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 4: is saying, like they signed now, I don't know if

1931
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:39,880
Speaker 4: that fixes it A three really good offensive line. I

1932
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:43,760
Speaker 4: like Joe Toney. I know that the guy that was

1933
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 4: a disappointment with the Rams, Jonah Jackson, I think, played

1934
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 4: for Dan Campbell in Detroit and played well in Detroit.

1935
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 4: He had an injury played year for the Rams last year,

1936
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:55,519
Speaker 4: So I think those those moves makes sense. And then

1937
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:57,639
Speaker 4: they signed the center of day Dolmond.

1938
01:28:59,200 --> 01:28:59,640
Speaker 5: I like that.

1939
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:03,519
Speaker 4: I wonder if and I just saw the graphic come

1940
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 4: up on my show as Freddy, I wonder if the

1941
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:09,960
Speaker 4: Patriots are still having a hard time getting offensive talent

1942
01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 4: to come in. You know, Vrabel's a defensive guy. He

1943
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:15,959
Speaker 4: was able to sign some defensive guys that he personally

1944
01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:19,240
Speaker 4: had connections to for the most part. You know, Milton

1945
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 4: Williams maybe a little bit different, But I think we

1946
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 4: all know how that one got done. But the other

1947
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 4: ones are guys that sort of had some familiarity with

1948
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:32,760
Speaker 4: the Patriots coaching staff, but they haven't been able to

1949
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:33,559
Speaker 4: do that on offense.

1950
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:35,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I think it's fair to look at the

1951
01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:38,639
Speaker 6: Bears as a comparison to the defensive line. I think

1952
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:41,000
Speaker 6: Washington is in a much different spot than you are.

1953
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 6: Washington was in the NFC Championship game last year.

1954
01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 4: They could afford to give up some of those picks

1955
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:48,200
Speaker 4: that I don't really think you could. Is that your point?

1956
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:50,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean they can afford to give up

1957
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:53,559
Speaker 6: a half their draft for Laromie Tunzel. The Patriots cannot

1958
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:56,800
Speaker 6: afford to do that right now. But Chicago they went

1959
01:29:56,840 --> 01:29:58,560
Speaker 6: about a little bit differently, like you said, with the

1960
01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:02,160
Speaker 6: offensive lineman, and it will be interesting to see which

1961
01:30:02,240 --> 01:30:04,240
Speaker 6: way ends up working out. You know, I think that

1962
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 6: they're bold in similar positions.

1963
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:08,439
Speaker 3: Do you do you have any sense of why Houston

1964
01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 3: pulled the trigger on Tonsol? I mean that seems they're

1965
01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:11,439
Speaker 3: going the opposite direction.

1966
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:13,800
Speaker 4: Had a very good year last year. They also traded

1967
01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:17,439
Speaker 4: Kenyan Green today, so yeah, their offensive line was a

1968
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:18,400
Speaker 4: disgrace last year.

1969
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:21,839
Speaker 6: And a lot of people blamed it on on check Masons,

1970
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:25,760
Speaker 6: and they blamed it on the scheme. But they got

1971
01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:27,320
Speaker 6: rid of slow again, they got rid of half the

1972
01:30:27,400 --> 01:30:28,080
Speaker 6: offensive line.

1973
01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:30,600
Speaker 4: So so I'll just use that as another example of

1974
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:33,280
Speaker 4: like you can be a playoff team and win games

1975
01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:36,360
Speaker 4: with you know, less than the Eagles or the Lions

1976
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 4: on the offensive line. Yeah, that was a terrible offensive

1977
01:30:40,240 --> 01:30:42,439
Speaker 4: line and C. J. Stroud ran for his life behind.

1978
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:44,560
Speaker 4: Now they're trying to fix it, and they should be.

1979
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:47,759
Speaker 3: They got Prafston, Barrios, let's get let's get to some emails.

1980
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 2: We'll get back to the phone right there. Ari from

1981
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:54,840
Speaker 2: the UK Rights and Ari, Fred and Paul, thanks for

1982
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:57,640
Speaker 2: the recommendation of There's Something About Mary. We watched it

1983
01:30:57,720 --> 01:31:01,479
Speaker 2: for the first time this weekend. Wow, one of the

1984
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 2: funniest movies I saw in the theater.

1985
01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:05,479
Speaker 4: I would agree it's a very funny movie. But that's

1986
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:11,920
Speaker 4: on top of the beans fifteen years nineties.

1987
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:18,519
Speaker 2: A few questions I old one. Do you think Elliott

1988
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:21,120
Speaker 2: and the team looked at a player like Laramie Tunsel

1989
01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:23,920
Speaker 2: and thought a trade could be possible? Are we or

1990
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:26,679
Speaker 2: are we only looking at free agents and not trying

1991
01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:29,599
Speaker 2: to be creative when filling needs. As it's been reported,

1992
01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:33,240
Speaker 2: we weren't interested in training for DK. Well, Eldre just

1993
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:33,800
Speaker 2: said we were.

1994
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:35,479
Speaker 6: There's some conflicting reports on that.

1995
01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:37,560
Speaker 4: Can I just like we're an hour and a half in,

1996
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:40,240
Speaker 4: Like we are an hour and a half. You know me,

1997
01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 4: I'm generally pretty skeptical of those kinds of reports. Count

1998
01:31:45,439 --> 01:31:48,000
Speaker 4: me in in the camp that is not necessarily buying

1999
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:52,920
Speaker 4: all of the reports about twenty more million offered here,

2000
01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:56,400
Speaker 4: they had a better offer for DK there. I don't buy.

2001
01:31:56,760 --> 01:31:58,280
Speaker 4: You need to get the guy you don't like. I

2002
01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:02,600
Speaker 4: don't this whole thing about oh well he's stupid he

2003
01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:06,080
Speaker 4: took twenty million dollars. I don't. Okay, I'm not a

2004
01:32:06,160 --> 01:32:08,479
Speaker 4: big believer in those kinds of stories.

2005
01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:12,920
Speaker 2: Well, I know last year, the Ayuk thing, I have

2006
01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:16,600
Speaker 2: no doubt that they had a lot more money available

2007
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:19,800
Speaker 2: for him, and he literally did not want to pick

2008
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:20,360
Speaker 2: up the phone.

2009
01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:23,360
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, the second part of that I know for

2010
01:32:23,439 --> 01:32:26,640
Speaker 4: a fact. Yeah, I've had people that I trust tell me.

2011
01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:28,800
Speaker 2: That they were fully prepared to give him more than

2012
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:31,320
Speaker 2: he got, you know, staying in San Francisco.

2013
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:33,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's true.

2014
01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:39,759
Speaker 2: Second question from Eric A question for Evan, you mentioned

2015
01:32:39,840 --> 01:32:42,280
Speaker 2: I think it was Cast twenty two that McDaniels may

2016
01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:44,519
Speaker 2: want to bring in a full back, and we just

2017
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:47,160
Speaker 2: talked about Cole uh juice.

2018
01:32:47,160 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 6: Say yeah, Like I said, it worries me that Shanahan

2019
01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:53,880
Speaker 6: thinks he's cooked. If shannonan thinks he's cooked, he's cooked.

2020
01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:54,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2021
01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:56,519
Speaker 6: There's nobody that knows fullbacks better than that guy.

2022
01:32:57,080 --> 01:32:59,479
Speaker 4: So no one that's lost more big games than that guy.

2023
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:00,759
Speaker 4: He says he's.

2024
01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:03,920
Speaker 17: Shot.

2025
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:08,240
Speaker 4: So my problems, it bothers my problem.

2026
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:12,639
Speaker 2: My problem with Kyle is not the backwards hat. It's

2027
01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:17,160
Speaker 2: the flat brim had flat brim hat, and he's too

2028
01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:17,680
Speaker 2: old for that.

2029
01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:20,200
Speaker 4: He scores too many points I know for these people.

2030
01:33:20,280 --> 01:33:22,880
Speaker 4: Ask gaalxy of that was very Paul right there.

2031
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:25,680
Speaker 2: That was well done. You you you gotta put a

2032
01:33:25,720 --> 01:33:26,400
Speaker 2: little curve.

2033
01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:30,719
Speaker 6: In that offense. Just stop scoring. It's not cool.

2034
01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:32,400
Speaker 5: We got to ask Alex about that that.

2035
01:33:32,479 --> 01:33:34,280
Speaker 3: You know what's better, like the heavy.

2036
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:36,760
Speaker 2: Brim bend or the flat Definitely the heavy.

2037
01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:39,840
Speaker 4: So I will say I've seen an unbelievable amount of

2038
01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:42,600
Speaker 4: backwards hats lately now that it's like the thing that

2039
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:46,800
Speaker 4: you can't stop seeing now, can't stop noticing it. You

2040
01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:52,720
Speaker 4: want to you know the name, Robbie. Oh you t

2041
01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:56,719
Speaker 4: zos alb podium.

2042
01:33:57,800 --> 01:33:59,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, very least pains at a desk.

2043
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:03,200
Speaker 4: He was a drafted He's a full back, has some

2044
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:04,479
Speaker 4: receiving ability, Paul.

2045
01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:07,880
Speaker 2: For you guys, guys with one syllable last names tend

2046
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:10,920
Speaker 2: to be tougher. Yeah.

2047
01:34:11,080 --> 01:34:13,839
Speaker 6: He played with Bill O'Brien at Alabama. Was very productive

2048
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:16,639
Speaker 6: in Bill O'Brien's offense when he was So if.

2049
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:18,880
Speaker 4: He has some versatility to his game, I'm all for it,

2050
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:22,879
Speaker 4: bring him in. I just don't want a sixth offensive

2051
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:25,000
Speaker 4: lineman playing in the backfield that does nothing for me.

2052
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:26,439
Speaker 3: What if I told you had a mullet and a

2053
01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:29,640
Speaker 3: good I told you he's nice like you. I like

2054
01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:31,559
Speaker 3: the handle little handlebars.

2055
01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 2: And football football, Robbie, is there any there is there

2056
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:36,760
Speaker 2: a player who was signed for someone else in free

2057
01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:40,000
Speaker 2: agency that you wish we had signed instead of the

2058
01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:44,320
Speaker 2: player we did. For example, Jamien Sherwood over Bobby Splaine.

2059
01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:46,560
Speaker 3: I would have said that green Law over him, but

2060
01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:48,759
Speaker 3: Greenlaw went to the Broncos.

2061
01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:53,360
Speaker 4: And I mean, I think the Patriots got good players

2062
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:59,520
Speaker 4: like I don't know, maybe how about the San Francisco

2063
01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:02,200
Speaker 4: tackle that Jalen Moore, who was kind of getting some

2064
01:35:02,360 --> 01:35:03,880
Speaker 4: attention that Kansas City got.

2065
01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:06,680
Speaker 6: Them, But that that to me is a perfect move

2066
01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:08,559
Speaker 6: for Kansas City though, because they have a little bit

2067
01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:09,400
Speaker 6: of margin for error.

2068
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:11,839
Speaker 4: If your Patriots doesn't work, they're not screwed.

2069
01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:14,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, the Patriots are counting on left tackle that's started

2070
01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:17,880
Speaker 6: twelve games over four years to be the answer. Left tackle.

2071
01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:19,880
Speaker 6: That's a lot different than Kansas City.

2072
01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:23,080
Speaker 2: Can you count in this conversation players who re signed

2073
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:26,160
Speaker 2: with their own team because I can. Yeah, it's a

2074
01:35:26,240 --> 01:35:26,920
Speaker 2: left tackle, I.

2075
01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:29,840
Speaker 4: Would have yeah, Higgs right, Yeah, I mean there's a

2076
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:30,280
Speaker 4: lot of those.

2077
01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:34,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ron Ronald stan Ron, Ron Stanley mustache Ron.

2078
01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:37,600
Speaker 2: Any news on how you guys are getting on with

2079
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:40,040
Speaker 2: the idea for the schedule release, any initial teasers. No,

2080
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:43,439
Speaker 2: we are getting on with it, but there are no teasers.

2081
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:46,439
Speaker 2: We don't tease that. And any news. If there's a

2082
01:35:46,479 --> 01:35:50,240
Speaker 2: new jersey coming, no idea. I doubt it, right, I

2083
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:50,560
Speaker 2: don't know.

2084
01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:51,880
Speaker 6: That's that's a youth thing.

2085
01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:53,400
Speaker 2: I have no idea.

2086
01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:56,439
Speaker 6: So if anybody would know, can't help you there.

2087
01:35:56,560 --> 01:35:58,960
Speaker 4: If you don't know about the jerseys, you don't know,

2088
01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:01,680
Speaker 4: don't show. I don't care about what's going on.

2089
01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:04,680
Speaker 2: Curtis and Saint Louis. I feel like this was definitely

2090
01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:08,680
Speaker 2: a productive day UH for free agency. Though they did

2091
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 2: not land a w R one or starting left tackle,

2092
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:15,160
Speaker 2: I believe they reportedly signed some significant improvements to this roster.

2093
01:36:15,560 --> 01:36:19,040
Speaker 2: I'm still hopeful for Cam Robinson signing to go into

2094
01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:21,639
Speaker 2: the draft with at least the starting option at left tackle.

2095
01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:24,559
Speaker 2: Please don't mess around and try to move Moses to left.

2096
01:36:24,920 --> 01:36:27,800
Speaker 2: I'd also like to see another addition at receiver, like

2097
01:36:27,880 --> 01:36:30,920
Speaker 2: Amari Cooper. I do feel he still has some decent

2098
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:32,760
Speaker 2: ball left in him, and I feel like you can

2099
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:35,680
Speaker 2: get him on a fairly affordable deal. Clearly it's way

2100
01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:39,240
Speaker 2: too early, but overall, with what we have, i'd give

2101
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:41,600
Speaker 2: it a B minus at this point, I.

2102
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:44,479
Speaker 6: Think that's probably fair. I would say a solid B.

2103
01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:47,000
Speaker 5: That's what we achieve in free agency.

2104
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:50,000
Speaker 4: I don't want, you know, I like a Mari Cooper

2105
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:52,000
Speaker 4: as a player. They just need more than that at

2106
01:36:52,040 --> 01:36:55,160
Speaker 4: this stage. I think he probably can contribute to a

2107
01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:57,040
Speaker 4: good team, but I wouldn't want to bring him in

2108
01:36:57,160 --> 01:37:00,120
Speaker 4: and then have, oh, now we have the guy and

2109
01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:02,840
Speaker 4: he's not the guy anymore, you know, so they.

2110
01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:04,840
Speaker 6: Might need to take a chance on one of those

2111
01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:08,040
Speaker 6: Steph digs Steph Diggs, Amari Cooper.

2112
01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:10,679
Speaker 4: Ras for your point.

2113
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:12,800
Speaker 6: Like one of those guys that are that's towards the

2114
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:18,680
Speaker 6: end to use Paul's parlance for wide receiver too, right,

2115
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:21,040
Speaker 6: Like you're not gonna make that your number one guy.

2116
01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:23,880
Speaker 4: But I guess for your second option if you will,

2117
01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:25,280
Speaker 4: if you you know, I think.

2118
01:37:25,200 --> 01:37:27,640
Speaker 6: We are in agreement that they might not even have

2119
01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:31,280
Speaker 6: They might not even have that. So if Amari Cooper

2120
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:33,519
Speaker 6: on his last leg can come in and for a

2121
01:37:33,640 --> 01:37:37,559
Speaker 6: year or two, he is a nice compliment to Travis Hunter.

2122
01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:42,280
Speaker 6: Ted McMillan. Name another wide receiver here, then maybe that

2123
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:42,960
Speaker 6: would work out.

2124
01:37:44,240 --> 01:37:47,720
Speaker 2: Ryan and Toronto has a draft process question. Yeah, he

2125
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:51,880
Speaker 2: wants to know why. For example, the Patriots are drafting

2126
01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:54,840
Speaker 2: with the fourth overall pick in the first round, and

2127
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:56,960
Speaker 2: then when you get to the second round, it's thirty

2128
01:37:57,000 --> 01:38:00,840
Speaker 2: eight because it rotates, Hi, right, So why do they

2129
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:02,000
Speaker 2: rotate Because.

2130
01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:05,160
Speaker 6: They finished with the same record, so it's they rotate

2131
01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 6: each round. So then they have the fifth overall pick

2132
01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:11,040
Speaker 6: in the second round, I think, and then they'll go

2133
01:38:11,200 --> 01:38:13,960
Speaker 6: back to having you know, whereever that is.

2134
01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:18,080
Speaker 4: You know those math like the tiebreaker. Yeah, you know,

2135
01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:22,320
Speaker 4: comes into play for the first round. But then whoever

2136
01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:25,000
Speaker 4: loses the tiebreaker, we get to pick ahead of that.

2137
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:26,760
Speaker 6: Team, right, and then when we go to the third round,

2138
01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:28,639
Speaker 6: it goes back to the first round order.

2139
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:31,840
Speaker 2: And then on a little listener on Listener Crime, Oh,

2140
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:35,479
Speaker 2: I love Voodoo's writes in please stop taking Eldred's calls.

2141
01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:38,559
Speaker 2: His takes are ridiculously bad and it makes me want

2142
01:38:38,600 --> 01:38:41,160
Speaker 2: to turn off the podcast. Seriously, it's so bad. Never

2143
01:38:41,240 --> 01:38:44,439
Speaker 2: mind his trademark of pulling the horn every time. Every

2144
01:38:44,479 --> 01:38:47,519
Speaker 2: time I hear the horn, I immediately sign sigh and say,

2145
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:53,519
Speaker 2: here we go. That's right, Eldad, you laugh.

2146
01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:56,439
Speaker 4: I'm going to respectfully disagree with that lack.

2147
01:38:56,920 --> 01:38:59,559
Speaker 5: I love BIGI especially with Crime.

2148
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:03,639
Speaker 3: Somehow always in like the conversation something he's been involved

2149
01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:04,439
Speaker 3: in every call.

2150
01:39:05,680 --> 01:39:08,040
Speaker 4: What if you're nineteen nineteen? Is that the year and

2151
01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:08,559
Speaker 4: got drafted?

2152
01:39:08,680 --> 01:39:09,680
Speaker 5: Yeah he was.

2153
01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:10,960
Speaker 6: He must have been crushed.

2154
01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:14,880
Speaker 5: Oh I know this guy was available. They didn't even care.

2155
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:16,519
Speaker 6: He was right there for the taking.

2156
01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:22,720
Speaker 2: Okay, lots of oh aj from Lexington says, I can

2157
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:26,280
Speaker 2: attest to the truth behind Alex's backwards hat data. I

2158
01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:28,559
Speaker 2: tried the backwards hat for the first time while out

2159
01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:31,280
Speaker 2: for dinner with the family. The results speak for themselves.

2160
01:39:31,400 --> 01:39:35,640
Speaker 2: Wink wink. Men don't ask questions, tell just try it.

2161
01:39:36,439 --> 01:39:39,280
Speaker 6: There's a certain someone in our department that rocks the

2162
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Speaker 6: backwards hat whenever I am with him, and.

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Speaker 2: It's women like the backwards hat. I guess it's the

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01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:47,720
Speaker 2: only person I know that doesn't. Who'd have known?

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01:39:48,520 --> 01:39:50,360
Speaker 4: No, I, like I said, I was aware of that.

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01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:53,479
Speaker 4: And this goes back thirty plus years.

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01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:55,360
Speaker 2: If you're over twenty two, I don't like it, you know,

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01:39:55,520 --> 01:39:57,599
Speaker 2: Fred conn Out I was. I was a kid.

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01:39:57,720 --> 01:39:59,160
Speaker 5: Tennis guys with the backwards hat.

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Speaker 2: I don't like it either.

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01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:05,920
Speaker 4: There you know, they look like right, a hat in general,

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01:40:06,680 --> 01:40:08,400
Speaker 4: the hat in general for tennis.

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01:40:08,240 --> 01:40:09,559
Speaker 2: The hat in general, What does that mean?

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01:40:09,640 --> 01:40:12,080
Speaker 4: The hat? Like if you had tennis players that wear

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01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:13,080
Speaker 4: the hat protect from.

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01:40:12,920 --> 01:40:16,760
Speaker 2: The if you're using it for a sun you know absolutely.

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01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:19,280
Speaker 2: I wear it sometimes. You know it's hot out there.

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01:40:19,320 --> 01:40:21,200
Speaker 2: Plus I got the big ball spot. That's what I

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01:40:21,240 --> 01:40:21,800
Speaker 2: don't want to get.

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01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:25,760
Speaker 4: I'm really outside baseball, so I wear the.

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01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:28,840
Speaker 2: Hat sometimes when I play. But it was funny. I

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01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:31,200
Speaker 2: was watching Djokovic the other day and they're playing at

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01:40:31,240 --> 01:40:33,519
Speaker 2: Indian wells and the way the sun is there at

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01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:36,560
Speaker 2: a certain time, it's really bad. So he had his

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01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:39,640
Speaker 2: hat on, but he had the brim turns sideways. He

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01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:42,800
Speaker 2: looked like a hip hop guy out there because he

2187
01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:45,120
Speaker 2: was really upset about the sun. So he was trying

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01:40:45,160 --> 01:40:47,920
Speaker 2: to get the brim just right. But there's a lot

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01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:51,439
Speaker 2: of guys that play with the backward hat. I don't

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01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:53,720
Speaker 2: like it because when you're serving and your head goes back,

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01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:56,439
Speaker 2: the brim touches. I don't that bothers me.

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Speaker 6: I can see that.

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01:40:57,640 --> 01:41:00,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, But then again, if you if you do want

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01:41:00,760 --> 01:41:03,439
Speaker 2: like the sweat absorptions, some people don't like the look

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01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:06,320
Speaker 2: of the sweat band It looks two seventies, So what

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01:41:06,439 --> 01:41:08,120
Speaker 2: do you do? So then you have to go to

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01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:10,960
Speaker 2: the handkerchief, to the bandana. Oh and they don't like

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01:41:11,080 --> 01:41:14,479
Speaker 2: that either, so then they wear the backwards hat. You know,

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01:41:14,960 --> 01:41:17,800
Speaker 2: Just do you like the wristbands and Jesus, yeah, I

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01:41:17,880 --> 01:41:21,200
Speaker 2: bet so. There's a lot to it.

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Speaker 5: We could be here all day.

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01:41:23,320 --> 01:41:25,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, as you can tell them into tennis.

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01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:26,840
Speaker 4: All right, I guess see.

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01:41:27,560 --> 01:41:31,880
Speaker 2: Let's go to the hotline. We'll go to Joe and Maine.

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01:41:31,960 --> 01:41:32,599
Speaker 2: What's up Joe?

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Speaker 22: Hey, guys, First, time calling in thank you.

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01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:40,720
Speaker 9: I like the like the show doing a great job.

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01:41:40,760 --> 01:41:44,560
Speaker 22: I listened often. So my thing is, I like what

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01:41:44,680 --> 01:41:48,400
Speaker 22: they did yesterday. I understand what they did, what they

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01:41:48,479 --> 01:41:51,680
Speaker 22: got done, and then even what they couldn't do with

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01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:54,800
Speaker 22: Godwin d k back Cup. I understand all that, and

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01:41:54,920 --> 01:41:57,080
Speaker 22: I do think they're in a hard spot of getting

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01:41:57,240 --> 01:42:01,720
Speaker 22: offensive players to come here. On the other hand, right now,

2214
01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:04,559
Speaker 22: like obviously that's like the glaring need for the team

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01:42:04,680 --> 01:42:11,200
Speaker 22: right like that offensive line needs help. Left tackle. I mean,

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01:42:11,240 --> 01:42:14,120
Speaker 22: that's that's the big one. I think even before wide receiver,

2217
01:42:14,280 --> 01:42:18,160
Speaker 22: but the wide receiver room two uh needs needs some

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01:42:18,240 --> 01:42:21,120
Speaker 22: major help. I'm tired of having a bunch of like

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01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:24,840
Speaker 22: three and four guys, and I think as a fan,

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01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:29,719
Speaker 22: like we all want to see some explosiveness on the offense,

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01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:30,960
Speaker 22: especially this thing and age.

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01:42:30,840 --> 01:42:31,360
Speaker 21: In the NFL.

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01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:35,560
Speaker 22: The way everything's going so so I am excited with

2224
01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:38,720
Speaker 22: all the changes, brave, bawled all this that's happening. I

2225
01:42:38,840 --> 01:42:42,960
Speaker 22: do like their's picks, but are there signings yesterday? But

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01:42:43,439 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 22: like in the draft that this is my question, with

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01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:51,400
Speaker 22: everything how it stands now, don't they have to use

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01:42:51,640 --> 01:42:54,360
Speaker 22: that first at least the first two picks they're gonna

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01:42:54,360 --> 01:42:56,400
Speaker 22: have to use it on offensive line, right on that

2230
01:42:56,520 --> 01:43:02,240
Speaker 22: left tackle. So I guess I'm just what what do

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01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:03,040
Speaker 22: you guys think on that?

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01:43:03,320 --> 01:43:05,760
Speaker 2: I think I think if not Will Campbell, you've got

2233
01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:07,400
Speaker 2: to take a guy in the second round.

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01:43:07,680 --> 01:43:11,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess, like I pick the best players.

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01:43:11,560 --> 01:43:13,200
Speaker 6: I know, I know, but but I just don't know.

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01:43:13,400 --> 01:43:16,040
Speaker 6: I guess I'm not saying that that the callers saying

2237
01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:18,760
Speaker 6: that it's a problem, but like people, I feel like

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01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:20,800
Speaker 6: people are acting like it's a problem, but like they

2239
01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:23,160
Speaker 6: have a bunch of draft capital that they can use

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Speaker 6: on offense. So like what they did on defense yesterday,

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01:43:27,120 --> 01:43:29,320
Speaker 6: to me, I feel like they they're pretty good on

2242
01:43:29,439 --> 01:43:32,320
Speaker 6: defense at this point. Like I agree with Duce said earlier,

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01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:35,000
Speaker 6: they could probably use one more edge rusher, you know,

2244
01:43:35,080 --> 01:43:38,400
Speaker 6: especially a situational guy that can that can rush the passer.

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01:43:38,479 --> 01:43:41,280
Speaker 6: But I don't see a whole lot of you know,

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01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:44,000
Speaker 6: big holes on defense at this point.

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01:43:44,280 --> 01:43:46,439
Speaker 4: And if one of Duce's guys from Georgia is the

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01:43:46,479 --> 01:43:48,680
Speaker 4: best player they think, I think they should take him

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01:43:49,760 --> 01:43:54,200
Speaker 4: at four, you know, Like I agree with you, Like, yes,

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01:43:54,280 --> 01:43:56,560
Speaker 4: they need offensive linements. Again, they do not have to

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01:43:56,600 --> 01:44:00,760
Speaker 4: get every single hole addressed. In year one or day one,

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01:44:01,160 --> 01:44:04,960
Speaker 4: they get get good players. If you add good players

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01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:07,160
Speaker 4: to your roster, you will improve and then you can

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01:44:07,240 --> 01:44:10,640
Speaker 4: see the next time around. Okay, we were able to

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01:44:10,680 --> 01:44:12,400
Speaker 4: go from four wins to eight wins, how do we

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01:44:12,479 --> 01:44:15,400
Speaker 4: get from eight to twelve? Okay, we need a left tackle. Yep,

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01:44:15,479 --> 01:44:17,240
Speaker 4: we got to go out at all costs. We got

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01:44:17,320 --> 01:44:18,000
Speaker 4: to find a left tens.

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01:44:18,200 --> 01:44:19,240
Speaker 2: Joe, appreciate the clay.

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Speaker 6: They will get the offensive lineman, Well, will they develop

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01:44:22,640 --> 01:44:24,559
Speaker 6: them and will they turn into good players? Like that's

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01:44:24,600 --> 01:44:29,280
Speaker 6: a that's the second part. But offensive lineman all all?

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01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:31,040
Speaker 4: And this is not a shot at you. I'm it's

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01:44:31,040 --> 01:44:33,800
Speaker 4: gonna sound like one all of you ball knowers. Yeah,

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01:44:34,760 --> 01:44:38,120
Speaker 4: tell me that there is an absolute dearth of offensive

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01:44:38,120 --> 01:44:41,160
Speaker 4: linemen in this league. Yet there's a lot of really

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01:44:41,240 --> 01:44:44,680
Speaker 4: good teams in the league. Am I to understand that

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01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:47,840
Speaker 4: the only ones that are any good have great offensive linemen?

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01:44:48,640 --> 01:44:50,719
Speaker 4: Or maybe are there some good teams in the league

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01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:53,680
Speaker 4: that do it without offensive lineman? Yes, Philly does it

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01:44:53,760 --> 01:45:00,639
Speaker 4: with dominant offensive line, right, Kansas City doesn't. Detroit quarterback

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01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:02,160
Speaker 4: of all time? No, no, no, This is what I'm

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01:45:02,160 --> 01:45:05,080
Speaker 4: saying is like, you think you have a really good quarterback,

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01:45:05,479 --> 01:45:08,760
Speaker 4: so Patrick Mahomes, No, I understand that, but why not

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01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:11,600
Speaker 4: bolster your defense, get really good on that side of

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01:45:11,640 --> 01:45:15,400
Speaker 4: the ball, get better, and then figure out how to

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01:45:15,479 --> 01:45:17,400
Speaker 4: get the offensive line better. Like I'm not saying to

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01:45:17,400 --> 01:45:21,240
Speaker 4: ignore the offensive line forever, but if Cam Robinson is

2279
01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:24,719
Speaker 4: your best option, how much better is he than Verderian Lowe?

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Speaker 15: Right?

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01:45:25,680 --> 01:45:30,519
Speaker 4: Right? He's probably better. He's he's a starting caliber left tackle,

2282
01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:33,479
Speaker 4: and I'm not sure if Darian Lowe is. Last year

2283
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:38,400
Speaker 4: their numbers were scarily similar. So if they don't love

2284
01:45:38,520 --> 01:45:42,920
Speaker 4: Cam Robinson, I get that. I get it. Maybe you

2285
01:45:43,040 --> 01:45:44,559
Speaker 4: have to bite the bullet and go with a year

2286
01:45:44,600 --> 01:45:47,280
Speaker 4: with Vaderian Lowe as your left tackle, or hope Cayden

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01:45:47,360 --> 01:45:49,960
Speaker 4: Wallace can play left tackle. I don't think he can,

2288
01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:52,960
Speaker 4: but you know, you might have to have a hole

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01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:54,120
Speaker 4: on your roster in year one.

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01:45:54,280 --> 01:45:57,639
Speaker 6: But I don't understand why they And I'm not saying

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01:45:57,680 --> 01:45:59,560
Speaker 6: that it's going to be an exact like this is

2292
01:45:59,680 --> 01:46:03,160
Speaker 6: a solution, no problems asked, But like, if they don't

2293
01:46:03,160 --> 01:46:05,479
Speaker 6: go offensive line at four overall because they like one

2294
01:46:05,479 --> 01:46:07,320
Speaker 6: of the defensive players at the top of the draft,

2295
01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:11,320
Speaker 6: there's Josh Connery, there's Arianti Erstrie, There's Josh Simmons, Like,

2296
01:46:11,560 --> 01:46:13,839
Speaker 6: there's other guys that play left.

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01:46:13,640 --> 01:46:15,960
Speaker 4: Tackle, and I would be all for drafting one of

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01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:18,000
Speaker 4: those guys, right, I would be one hundred percent on

2299
01:46:18,120 --> 01:46:19,559
Speaker 4: one of those guys. I'm just not going to say

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01:46:19,560 --> 01:46:21,400
Speaker 4: I'm gonna draft one of those guys and now I

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01:46:21,520 --> 01:46:22,559
Speaker 4: fix my problem at left.

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Speaker 6: That's not what I'm saying.

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01:46:23,360 --> 01:46:26,080
Speaker 4: But that's better than putting Vaderien Low back out there

2304
01:46:26,560 --> 01:46:29,320
Speaker 4: or flipping I'm not I'm not convinced of that, oh

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01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:29,680
Speaker 4: i am.

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01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:33,599
Speaker 6: I'm or flipping Cayden Wallace if left.

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01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:35,639
Speaker 4: If you draft a guy who can play and here

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01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:39,920
Speaker 4: and he works out, then you've you've increased, You've improved

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01:46:39,960 --> 01:46:43,320
Speaker 4: over Badarian Low. Just like if Carlton Davis ends up

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01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:46,360
Speaker 4: playing better than Jonathan Jones, you've improved that second cornerback spot.

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01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:49,720
Speaker 6: Listen, right, I find it hard to believe that if

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01:46:49,760 --> 01:46:53,840
Speaker 6: they draft one of the top tackles in this upcoming class,

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01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:56,960
Speaker 6: that that player is going to be worse than Low.

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01:46:57,040 --> 01:47:00,800
Speaker 6: I would agree was probably the worst starting offensive lineman

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01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:01,680
Speaker 6: and football.

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01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:04,880
Speaker 4: I listen well, only talk by the guy on the right.

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01:47:06,120 --> 01:47:06,400
Speaker 15: Talent.

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01:47:06,880 --> 01:47:09,479
Speaker 2: Talent was a problem on the offensive line. It's been

2319
01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:11,479
Speaker 2: a problem on the offensive line for this team. But

2320
01:47:11,680 --> 01:47:14,679
Speaker 2: development is also as big a problem on this team,

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01:47:15,080 --> 01:47:19,560
Speaker 2: and we've had this discussion. I am thoroughly convinced that

2322
01:47:19,640 --> 01:47:22,519
Speaker 2: if you have five good players, you can have a

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01:47:22,640 --> 01:47:26,720
Speaker 2: really good NFL offensive line, provided they have the right

2324
01:47:26,840 --> 01:47:30,200
Speaker 2: type of guidance, right type of coaching. You don't need,

2325
01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:34,439
Speaker 2: you know, Orlando Brown, necessarily, if you have five guys

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01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:37,479
Speaker 2: who know how to play their positions, are working as

2327
01:47:37,560 --> 01:47:40,080
Speaker 2: one unit, and you have a good coach coaching, but

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01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:43,479
Speaker 2: you don't have to have the elite players. They don't

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01:47:43,520 --> 01:47:43,880
Speaker 2: have that.

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01:47:44,360 --> 01:47:46,080
Speaker 4: They don't have fun, they don't have that. But but

2331
01:47:46,280 --> 01:47:47,960
Speaker 4: they're not like last year they had one.

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01:47:48,080 --> 01:47:50,880
Speaker 2: But I don't think it's that crazy, Like it's not

2333
01:47:51,240 --> 01:47:55,800
Speaker 2: a herculean task to get five adequate guys to play

2334
01:47:56,320 --> 01:47:57,679
Speaker 2: offensive line in the NFL.

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01:47:57,760 --> 01:47:59,720
Speaker 6: I wouldn't necessarily disagree with you, and I think that

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01:47:59,800 --> 01:48:02,080
Speaker 6: they be able to do that in the top one

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01:48:02,160 --> 01:48:03,000
Speaker 6: hundred of this draft.

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01:48:03,080 --> 01:48:06,080
Speaker 2: I'd say with the with the offensive line leadership they

2339
01:48:06,120 --> 01:48:08,639
Speaker 2: had in the last few years, if they had five

2340
01:48:08,720 --> 01:48:11,240
Speaker 2: good guys, they wouldn't look as good as they should.

2341
01:48:11,920 --> 01:48:13,040
Speaker 2: Maybe now they will.

2342
01:48:13,560 --> 01:48:16,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, and just have just to close the book on

2343
01:48:16,320 --> 01:48:18,479
Speaker 4: that talk, I would not be opposed to doing what

2344
01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:21,120
Speaker 4: you said, like the second pick has got to be

2345
01:48:21,600 --> 01:48:23,880
Speaker 4: you know, the Oregon guy, the Ohio State, one of those.

2346
01:48:24,520 --> 01:48:28,000
Speaker 4: I'm just saying if I'm taking the third or fourth tackle,

2347
01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:33,000
Speaker 4: I'm not necessarily just saying my problems are solved, but

2348
01:48:33,120 --> 01:48:35,040
Speaker 4: I would absolutely do it. I think they need to,

2349
01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:36,120
Speaker 4: they need to address it.

2350
01:48:36,320 --> 01:48:38,400
Speaker 6: I just think I would much rather even if it's

2351
01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:41,880
Speaker 6: ends up failing, yep, I would much rather throw Josh

2352
01:48:41,960 --> 01:48:44,040
Speaker 6: Connerly out there on the hopes that we hit we've

2353
01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:46,120
Speaker 6: found the need to the left tackle me too, then

2354
01:48:46,320 --> 01:48:49,320
Speaker 6: have Darian low play another season at that spot, and.

2355
01:48:49,720 --> 01:48:51,919
Speaker 4: I would be one thousand percent but agreement.

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01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:53,680
Speaker 3: But all that said, listening to you guys, and I

2357
01:48:53,960 --> 01:48:55,720
Speaker 3: totally hear what you're saying, Paul, do you still think

2358
01:48:55,800 --> 01:48:58,519
Speaker 3: there's a chance that Vidarian Lowe is the starter as

2359
01:48:58,560 --> 01:49:01,000
Speaker 3: we open Ota worried about that fact.

2360
01:49:01,080 --> 01:49:04,120
Speaker 4: I think that's why I zero.

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01:49:04,280 --> 01:49:06,880
Speaker 6: I think there's two things I feel pretty confident about. One,

2362
01:49:07,080 --> 01:49:10,160
Speaker 6: they're not doing this left right right left nonsense anymore,

2363
01:49:10,320 --> 01:49:12,559
Speaker 6: like you're either a right tackle or you're a left tackle.

2364
01:49:12,760 --> 01:49:15,479
Speaker 6: And I think Morgan Moses is a right tackle. That's

2365
01:49:15,520 --> 01:49:17,479
Speaker 6: a right tackle that they're going to play at right tackle.

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01:49:17,600 --> 01:49:19,280
Speaker 6: I don't think Rabel is going to mess around with

2367
01:49:19,880 --> 01:49:21,840
Speaker 6: with you, well, we're gonna take this right tackle and

2368
01:49:21,880 --> 01:49:23,920
Speaker 6: we're actually gonna flip them over to the left side.

2369
01:49:24,080 --> 01:49:26,639
Speaker 6: I don't think we're doing that anymore. And I don't

2370
01:49:26,680 --> 01:49:28,719
Speaker 6: think Vaderien Low will be your starting left tackle.

2371
01:49:29,120 --> 01:49:29,240
Speaker 21: Now.

2372
01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:32,000
Speaker 6: It might be a rookie. It might be Will Campbell,

2373
01:49:32,120 --> 01:49:34,839
Speaker 6: it might be arianta Ercrie, it might be Josh Connerly,

2374
01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:37,240
Speaker 6: it might be whoever. But I don't think it will

2375
01:49:37,280 --> 01:49:37,960
Speaker 6: be Vederien Low.

2376
01:49:38,360 --> 01:49:40,040
Speaker 5: I don't think. I don't think it's a zero. I

2377
01:49:40,040 --> 01:49:40,800
Speaker 5: don't think it's zero.

2378
01:49:41,160 --> 01:49:44,280
Speaker 3: I mean, I wish I could say that, but I

2379
01:49:44,280 --> 01:49:45,559
Speaker 3: don't know who the other guys even are.

2380
01:49:45,680 --> 01:49:47,560
Speaker 4: I don't think it's I don't think it's zero that

2381
01:49:47,680 --> 01:49:50,280
Speaker 4: someone else on the team already is the starting left tackle.

2382
01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:52,920
Speaker 4: I don't know if if it's not Low, maybe it's

2383
01:49:52,960 --> 01:49:55,960
Speaker 4: someone else that they like you, Maybe they like someone's development,

2384
01:49:56,080 --> 01:49:58,040
Speaker 4: maybe Jacob's who knows.

2385
01:49:58,120 --> 01:50:00,800
Speaker 2: But here's the thing, but I'm scared.

2386
01:50:00,520 --> 01:50:03,400
Speaker 4: Of that, and I want Evans option over any of

2387
01:50:03,439 --> 01:50:07,840
Speaker 4: those options. Second round slash trade up back up into

2388
01:50:07,840 --> 01:50:10,479
Speaker 4: the bottom of the first round. Rookie is my better

2389
01:50:10,560 --> 01:50:11,120
Speaker 4: option at let.

2390
01:50:12,439 --> 01:50:15,160
Speaker 6: And it feels like they've given themselves the flexibility by

2391
01:50:15,320 --> 01:50:18,280
Speaker 6: filling these holes on defense and free agency to maybe

2392
01:50:18,400 --> 01:50:20,920
Speaker 6: trade up from thirty eight back into the back half

2393
01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:23,160
Speaker 6: of the first round because they don't need that extra

2394
01:50:23,320 --> 01:50:26,120
Speaker 6: pick as badly anymore to hit all the needs that

2395
01:50:26,160 --> 01:50:26,400
Speaker 6: they have.

2396
01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:29,640
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not as dire as people think it

2397
01:50:29,760 --> 01:50:31,600
Speaker 2: is right now on the offensive line. So let's just

2398
01:50:31,640 --> 01:50:34,040
Speaker 2: say Moses, I think it very much is Well, let's

2399
01:50:34,080 --> 01:50:35,840
Speaker 2: just say Moses comes in at least for this year.

2400
01:50:36,080 --> 01:50:38,960
Speaker 2: He's your right tackle and when you use your right guard, right.

2401
01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:41,720
Speaker 2: I don't know what the deal is with Andrews, if

2402
01:50:41,720 --> 01:50:43,400
Speaker 2: he's coming back or not, but if he does, he's

2403
01:50:43,400 --> 01:50:46,240
Speaker 2: your center. If not, maybe Stephen kneels your center, right.

2404
01:50:46,600 --> 01:50:49,160
Speaker 2: I think he probably could know Cole Strange. I mean,

2405
01:50:49,240 --> 01:50:50,200
Speaker 2: what did I say, Stephen?

2406
01:50:51,160 --> 01:50:53,880
Speaker 4: You know you speak you have three holes three holes on.

2407
01:50:54,560 --> 01:50:56,680
Speaker 2: So Cole Strange said it, you have two holes.

2408
01:50:56,439 --> 01:50:59,760
Speaker 4: Nore, you have three Strange not col Strange played last

2409
01:50:59,800 --> 01:51:03,160
Speaker 4: year like he's not an answer, no, but he's a possibility, right.

2410
01:51:03,360 --> 01:51:06,519
Speaker 2: What like he might be the answer at center? Interest

2411
01:51:07,880 --> 01:51:08,719
Speaker 2: might be but he's.

2412
01:51:08,600 --> 01:51:11,080
Speaker 4: A question mark. Yeah, and you have a question market

2413
01:51:11,200 --> 01:51:12,599
Speaker 4: left guard, and you have a question market.

2414
01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:14,000
Speaker 2: So you're three.

2415
01:51:14,040 --> 01:51:16,559
Speaker 4: So you've answered. You've answered one question mark right now.

2416
01:51:16,680 --> 01:51:18,960
Speaker 4: Two Well, when you was there, like.

2417
01:51:19,040 --> 01:51:22,559
Speaker 2: Okay, when one year we need five guys, we've got

2418
01:51:22,600 --> 01:51:25,240
Speaker 2: two sure things, we've got two short things.

2419
01:51:25,120 --> 01:51:27,200
Speaker 4: I would agree, right, that's dire.

2420
01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:30,559
Speaker 2: I think that's dire. I think cold strange.

2421
01:51:31,840 --> 01:51:33,519
Speaker 4: We did this last year, and you made fun of

2422
01:51:33,600 --> 01:51:36,320
Speaker 4: me just in this very spot last year. Yeah, and

2423
01:51:36,439 --> 01:51:38,120
Speaker 4: I didn't throw it in your face all year, but

2424
01:51:38,120 --> 01:51:41,519
Speaker 4: I will if you want me to. Okay, I couldn't

2425
01:51:41,600 --> 01:51:45,320
Speaker 4: block because you can't just put anyone out there and

2426
01:51:45,680 --> 01:51:45,880
Speaker 4: have that.

2427
01:51:45,960 --> 01:51:46,120
Speaker 3: I know.

2428
01:51:46,320 --> 01:51:48,960
Speaker 2: But I also don't think the coaching was that good.

2429
01:51:49,960 --> 01:51:53,240
Speaker 2: But I think I think we'll figure out left guard.

2430
01:51:53,840 --> 01:51:54,680
Speaker 6: We'll figure it out.

2431
01:51:54,760 --> 01:51:56,400
Speaker 2: We'll figure out left I mean.

2432
01:51:56,479 --> 01:51:59,640
Speaker 4: This is what they did last year. Someone will play, but.

2433
01:51:59,760 --> 01:52:02,759
Speaker 2: They didn't have the person to help figure it out. Okay,

2434
01:52:03,360 --> 01:52:06,120
Speaker 2: and he just figure it out with Anybody will find

2435
01:52:06,160 --> 01:52:09,599
Speaker 2: the left tackle, either in the draft or through free agency,

2436
01:52:09,880 --> 01:52:12,000
Speaker 2: or they're gonna address that.

2437
01:52:12,280 --> 01:52:15,000
Speaker 4: I better than they addressed. My confidence is that they

2438
01:52:15,040 --> 01:52:17,360
Speaker 4: will address it. Last year, they chose not to address it.

2439
01:52:17,400 --> 01:52:20,040
Speaker 4: So I agree with you they will address it. Yeah,

2440
01:52:20,320 --> 01:52:21,800
Speaker 4: that's why I haven't says zero percent.

2441
01:52:23,479 --> 01:52:26,000
Speaker 6: They'll have a left tackle on the roster that they

2442
01:52:26,160 --> 01:52:27,240
Speaker 6: drafted highly, I.

2443
01:52:27,280 --> 01:52:30,680
Speaker 4: Feel, but that's a big difference. Here's what they have

2444
01:52:30,880 --> 01:52:31,240
Speaker 4: right now.

2445
01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:36,400
Speaker 2: Here's my prediction. Okay, by week seven, we will not

2446
01:52:36,520 --> 01:52:39,880
Speaker 2: be talking about that. We will be satisfied with the

2447
01:52:40,080 --> 01:52:42,840
Speaker 2: offensive line. We'll be like, Okay, it's good enough. We

2448
01:52:42,920 --> 01:52:44,200
Speaker 2: can win games with this line.

2449
01:52:44,280 --> 01:52:47,840
Speaker 4: If I so, you're you're projecting that they're going to

2450
01:52:47,960 --> 01:52:50,160
Speaker 4: add three guys that aren't on the team right now,

2451
01:52:50,240 --> 01:52:51,360
Speaker 4: then I'm.

2452
01:52:51,120 --> 01:52:54,559
Speaker 2: Just saying that the play of the offensive line will

2453
01:52:54,600 --> 01:52:56,559
Speaker 2: be convinced that it's fine.

2454
01:52:57,479 --> 01:52:59,760
Speaker 4: I just think you're doing exactly what you did last year. Okay,

2455
01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:01,960
Speaker 4: if you're just gonna close your eyes and say it's

2456
01:53:02,040 --> 01:53:04,360
Speaker 4: gonna be like Elliott Will, you're gonna have to make

2457
01:53:04,479 --> 01:53:05,400
Speaker 4: more worried about it.

2458
01:53:05,439 --> 01:53:08,160
Speaker 2: I'm not just saying they're gonna have Vederian Lowett left tackle.

2459
01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:11,200
Speaker 2: They're gonna have to make moves, but I'm confident they

2460
01:53:11,320 --> 01:53:13,960
Speaker 2: know what a good offensive lineman looks like and they're

2461
01:53:14,000 --> 01:53:14,840
Speaker 2: gonna coach him right.

2462
01:53:15,080 --> 01:53:15,400
Speaker 4: I would.

2463
01:53:15,600 --> 01:53:17,720
Speaker 6: I would feel a lot better if in the next

2464
01:53:17,920 --> 01:53:23,000
Speaker 6: couple of days, Tevin Jenkins, Makai Becton, someone like that

2465
01:53:23,320 --> 01:53:26,200
Speaker 6: is signed to play left guard, because if they have.

2466
01:53:26,600 --> 01:53:28,559
Speaker 4: I would take McKay Beckton to play left tackle.

2467
01:53:29,000 --> 01:53:31,360
Speaker 6: I wouldn't do that, but I would. But if he

2468
01:53:31,520 --> 01:53:36,599
Speaker 6: comes in or maybe maybe it's Mkai Becton as left guard,

2469
01:53:36,640 --> 01:53:40,280
Speaker 6: ideally left tackle if need be, and they draft a

2470
01:53:40,360 --> 01:53:42,679
Speaker 6: left tackle they like and then maybe he kicks inside.

2471
01:53:42,760 --> 01:53:45,400
Speaker 6: But if they add one more lineman that I that

2472
01:53:45,520 --> 01:53:48,920
Speaker 6: is a starting caliber NFL offensive lineman, just like Morgan Moses.

2473
01:53:49,240 --> 01:53:51,360
Speaker 6: They had one more of those guys, then I think

2474
01:53:51,439 --> 01:53:52,280
Speaker 6: that were or.

2475
01:53:52,439 --> 01:53:55,400
Speaker 4: If that happens. I'm with you, Fred, and I'm confident

2476
01:53:55,560 --> 01:53:58,080
Speaker 4: they will. If you if you have answers, if you

2477
01:53:58,120 --> 01:54:00,720
Speaker 4: have answers at three or four spots, you don't need

2478
01:54:00,800 --> 01:54:03,479
Speaker 4: all five. You have answers that three or four, then

2479
01:54:03,600 --> 01:54:05,320
Speaker 4: I don't think we'll be talking about it in session.

2480
01:54:05,320 --> 01:54:10,600
Speaker 2: They're playing with, you know, continuity and cohesion and communication,

2481
01:54:11,000 --> 01:54:13,600
Speaker 2: the three seeds. You can make it work. I know

2482
01:54:13,680 --> 01:54:14,559
Speaker 2: you can make it work.

2483
01:54:15,080 --> 01:54:16,960
Speaker 4: That's what they've told me for three years and they

2484
01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:19,800
Speaker 4: haven't made it made it work. I'm just saying that,

2485
01:54:19,880 --> 01:54:21,240
Speaker 4: and there's not just coaching.

2486
01:54:21,800 --> 01:54:22,920
Speaker 2: Well, that's a big.

2487
01:54:22,840 --> 01:54:26,160
Speaker 5: Part of that coaching is the fourth one fourth four.

2488
01:54:26,439 --> 01:54:29,160
Speaker 4: Like you can't just make Demontre Jacobs and Darian Lowe's

2489
01:54:29,160 --> 01:54:32,640
Speaker 4: starting tactis if they if they're not starting caliber.

2490
01:54:33,360 --> 01:54:35,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's actually ten seasons.

2491
01:54:35,000 --> 01:54:37,200
Speaker 6: Well it is what I know, running out of time.

2492
01:54:37,240 --> 01:54:38,520
Speaker 4: But like what colossal.

2493
01:54:39,880 --> 01:54:42,320
Speaker 6: Is, like col Strange and Leyden Robinson get thrown like,

2494
01:54:42,400 --> 01:54:44,280
Speaker 6: oh we have they'll start at left guard.

2495
01:54:44,400 --> 01:54:46,480
Speaker 4: This is my based off of what like what if

2496
01:54:46,760 --> 01:54:49,080
Speaker 4: you can't just take guys and just say well, then

2497
01:54:49,200 --> 01:54:52,480
Speaker 4: my start is they'll be fine. That's not going to happen. Like,

2498
01:54:52,600 --> 01:54:55,640
Speaker 4: it's not I said this nine thousand times last year

2499
01:54:56,160 --> 01:54:57,800
Speaker 4: every time we had to do the Bad List. I

2500
01:54:58,040 --> 01:55:01,080
Speaker 4: felt bad about putting Demontre Jacobs. It's not his fault.

2501
01:55:01,920 --> 01:55:03,880
Speaker 4: It's not his fault. He's trying to block like Nick

2502
01:55:03,960 --> 01:55:06,560
Speaker 4: Bosa like that's not fair.

2503
01:55:07,120 --> 01:55:08,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good you told him that. You had that

2504
01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:10,440
Speaker 3: moment with the two of you where he broke down

2505
01:55:10,480 --> 01:55:11,080
Speaker 3: a little bits.

2506
01:55:12,680 --> 01:55:16,960
Speaker 2: I just remember growing watching football on TV, and you

2507
01:55:17,000 --> 01:55:18,920
Speaker 2: know you'd be watching it back then it was the

2508
01:55:19,000 --> 01:55:21,840
Speaker 2: Giants every week, but whoever the teams were, there were

2509
01:55:21,840 --> 01:55:24,480
Speaker 2: a lot of NFC teams and guys would go down

2510
01:55:24,520 --> 01:55:26,920
Speaker 2: the offensive line and you know you're watching. I wonder

2511
01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:28,960
Speaker 2: if that's going to affect the play. And because they

2512
01:55:29,000 --> 01:55:31,440
Speaker 2: had a good system and good coaching, the guy that

2513
01:55:32,080 --> 01:55:34,520
Speaker 2: the other guy would come in there be no problem.

2514
01:55:34,920 --> 01:55:36,720
Speaker 4: That and the fact that they ran the ball every play,

2515
01:55:37,880 --> 01:55:39,480
Speaker 4: so I don't have guys screaming off the air.

2516
01:55:41,400 --> 01:55:44,160
Speaker 2: Luke writes in I'm not a huge Colorado football fan,

2517
01:55:44,640 --> 01:55:47,080
Speaker 2: so there may just be something I'm not seeing, But

2518
01:55:47,200 --> 01:55:50,960
Speaker 2: could someone please explain that Travis Hunter hype to me? Uh,

2519
01:55:51,240 --> 01:55:53,480
Speaker 2: not at all saying he's a bad player by any stretch,

2520
01:55:53,560 --> 01:55:55,920
Speaker 2: but aside from the athletic wow factor, which in my

2521
01:55:56,000 --> 01:55:59,360
Speaker 2: opinion probably won't carry into the NFL, as he'll probably

2522
01:55:59,480 --> 01:56:02,000
Speaker 2: primary be playing on one side of the ball, not both.

2523
01:56:02,440 --> 01:56:05,720
Speaker 2: There are better wide receivers and Ted McMillan and Luther Burden,

2524
01:56:05,960 --> 01:56:09,240
Speaker 2: and better quarterbacks and Will Johnson or even Ben Morrison

2525
01:56:09,280 --> 01:56:11,800
Speaker 2: available that could do more on one side of the

2526
01:56:11,880 --> 01:56:15,720
Speaker 2: ball than Hunter. Than Hunter could unless the team really

2527
01:56:15,800 --> 01:56:18,520
Speaker 2: plans to give him significant snaps on both sides of

2528
01:56:18,520 --> 01:56:22,520
Speaker 2: the ball, which seemed very far fetched to me. Second question,

2529
01:56:22,640 --> 01:56:25,760
Speaker 2: does that seem far fetched to you? All huge, thanks

2530
01:56:25,760 --> 01:56:28,280
Speaker 2: for the unfiltered crew. You'll make the commute go by.

2531
01:56:28,240 --> 01:56:28,760
Speaker 5: In a flash.

2532
01:56:29,280 --> 01:56:32,800
Speaker 2: So do you agree that you don't see the wow

2533
01:56:32,880 --> 01:56:34,800
Speaker 2: and Travis Hunter Wow?

2534
01:56:35,040 --> 01:56:37,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how to respond

2535
01:56:37,720 --> 01:56:38,360
Speaker 6: to emails like that.

2536
01:56:39,680 --> 01:56:42,800
Speaker 2: I think I think he's got that elite athleticism. He

2537
01:56:43,000 --> 01:56:44,040
Speaker 2: just makes it look easy.

2538
01:56:44,160 --> 01:56:46,720
Speaker 4: Yeah. I understand what his point is about, not being

2539
01:56:46,840 --> 01:56:49,880
Speaker 4: sure how it translates because he I mean, he's right,

2540
01:56:50,040 --> 01:56:52,040
Speaker 4: Like in college, there are guys that just have a

2541
01:56:52,160 --> 01:56:55,520
Speaker 4: level of athleticism that exceeds anything they're playing against. Well with,

2542
01:56:57,640 --> 01:56:59,840
Speaker 4: I think he has a special skill set he does

2543
01:57:00,520 --> 01:57:01,920
Speaker 4: that you don't see every year.

2544
01:57:02,040 --> 01:57:02,560
Speaker 5: Explosive.

2545
01:57:02,720 --> 01:57:04,440
Speaker 2: We'll do two more calls. We're gonna have to make

2546
01:57:04,520 --> 01:57:07,400
Speaker 2: them quick because we're up against it. Deshaun's in Virginia.

2547
01:57:07,480 --> 01:57:08,240
Speaker 2: What's up to Shawn?

2548
01:57:10,320 --> 01:57:15,240
Speaker 9: You gots doing? Basically, what I want to say is

2549
01:57:15,280 --> 01:57:17,960
Speaker 9: like I will actually, I actually like the free agency

2550
01:57:18,480 --> 01:57:20,760
Speaker 9: that the Patriers have had so far, because, like I said,

2551
01:57:20,880 --> 01:57:24,000
Speaker 9: it allows them to pivot too much much more needs,

2552
01:57:24,240 --> 01:57:25,760
Speaker 9: especially on the office side of the ball, because they

2553
01:57:25,800 --> 01:57:27,080
Speaker 9: don't have to address the defense side of the.

2554
01:57:27,040 --> 01:57:27,440
Speaker 21: Ball like that.

2555
01:57:28,000 --> 01:57:28,120
Speaker 6: Uh.

2556
01:57:28,440 --> 01:57:30,920
Speaker 9: With that being said, so when people criticize about what

2557
01:57:30,960 --> 01:57:33,040
Speaker 9: he's done in free agency. I don't understand why, because

2558
01:57:33,560 --> 01:57:36,200
Speaker 9: if if I'm in I'm doing this draft, like if

2559
01:57:37,040 --> 01:57:39,960
Speaker 9: I try to double dip on wide receiver, you know,

2560
01:57:40,920 --> 01:57:45,600
Speaker 9: possibly take a tackle in the first round. Probably depends

2561
01:57:45,640 --> 01:57:48,400
Speaker 9: on how things go. But I don't understand how people

2562
01:57:48,480 --> 01:57:50,640
Speaker 9: actually want to criticize the show.

2563
01:57:51,480 --> 01:57:53,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I haven't heard a lot of criticism that just

2564
01:57:53,680 --> 01:57:57,600
Speaker 4: people are just wondering where can they find improvement on offense? Yeah,

2565
01:57:57,640 --> 01:57:59,480
Speaker 4: but I think people like what they've done on defense.

2566
01:57:59,560 --> 01:58:02,760
Speaker 2: Welluntil they signed Milton, your show was ready to just

2567
01:58:03,120 --> 01:58:04,160
Speaker 2: go right after them.

2568
01:58:04,400 --> 01:58:07,400
Speaker 9: But I think it's unfortunate for like this draft because

2569
01:58:07,440 --> 01:58:09,160
Speaker 9: like there's not a whole lot of options. I mean,

2570
01:58:09,480 --> 01:58:11,120
Speaker 9: I was trying to get the receiver they want because

2571
01:58:11,520 --> 01:58:13,560
Speaker 9: you try to do with some trade, which you know,

2572
01:58:15,720 --> 01:58:17,520
Speaker 9: if you don't want to come here, he was trying

2573
01:58:17,560 --> 01:58:19,120
Speaker 9: to drop one. But it feels like the past a

2574
01:58:19,160 --> 01:58:23,200
Speaker 9: couple of drafts has to have its been any great receivers.

2575
01:58:23,520 --> 01:58:26,000
Speaker 14: Yep, you can plug in, Yeah.

2576
01:58:26,560 --> 01:58:26,800
Speaker 4: I know.

2577
01:58:27,000 --> 01:58:28,920
Speaker 6: I mean the only here that really all right thanks

2578
01:58:29,000 --> 01:58:31,440
Speaker 6: to show hit free agency was Godwin. And I don't

2579
01:58:31,440 --> 01:58:33,320
Speaker 6: even think he really hit free agency that he.

2580
01:58:33,360 --> 01:58:35,880
Speaker 4: Didn't, right, It seems like that the agency hasn't started

2581
01:58:35,960 --> 01:58:36,560
Speaker 4: yet technically.

2582
01:58:36,720 --> 01:58:38,960
Speaker 6: Well, I just mean he'd no, but you're right, he

2583
01:58:39,040 --> 01:58:39,600
Speaker 6: didn't really.

2584
01:58:40,080 --> 01:58:41,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, he didn't really.

2585
01:58:41,400 --> 01:58:41,880
Speaker 6: Want to leave.

2586
01:58:42,960 --> 01:58:44,880
Speaker 4: You know. I think I read with that as much

2587
01:58:44,920 --> 01:58:46,800
Speaker 4: as I could have made them that. I disagree with

2588
01:58:46,880 --> 01:58:49,600
Speaker 4: the whole twenty million million. I don't think he ever

2589
01:58:49,680 --> 01:58:51,680
Speaker 4: wanted to leave Tampa. They said that at the combine.

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01:58:51,800 --> 01:58:54,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kendall's in North Carolina. Hate Kendall.

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Speaker 9: Hey, I know Paul.

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Speaker 15: Mentioned earlier that we should be rooting.

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Speaker 9: To get Rogers. But if the Giants get Russell, would

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Speaker 9: they change your mind?

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01:59:06,880 --> 01:59:06,960
Speaker 2: Oh?

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01:59:07,040 --> 01:59:09,400
Speaker 4: That would be bad too, Yeah, that would be bad.

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Speaker 4: If the Giants get a veteran quarterback, that would be bad.

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Speaker 4: Any veteran quarterb They kind of have to though, right,

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Speaker 4: I think they do, But they're running out. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's it's just it's Russell Wilson, it's Kirk Cousins could

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Speaker 4: potentially be available, and it's Aaron Rodgers, right, who else

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01:59:27,440 --> 01:59:31,880
Speaker 4: missing fields is gone? So one of those three, if

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Speaker 4: the Giants were able to sign, I think that that

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01:59:33,720 --> 01:59:36,280
Speaker 4: would eliminate them drafting Shoudua Sanders.

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Speaker 2: That would be bad.

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01:59:40,160 --> 01:59:41,960
Speaker 9: If you're saying to Giant get.

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Speaker 4: I think so. I mean, Fred thinks that they still

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01:59:46,280 --> 01:59:47,400
Speaker 4: might take a quarterback.

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01:59:48,120 --> 01:59:50,080
Speaker 2: I don't see I have to start them at day one.

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Speaker 4: I don't see why you would waste your resources if

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01:59:53,080 --> 01:59:55,560
Speaker 4: you're that desperate to save your job. Now you're drafting

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01:59:55,600 --> 01:59:57,960
Speaker 4: a guy in the first round who could potentially help

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01:59:58,040 --> 02:00:00,760
Speaker 4: you win games, and now you're drafting a backup quarterback

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Speaker 4: in the first round who's not going to help you

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Speaker 4: rid games. I don't think that makes sense.

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Speaker 6: Also, in that Shador Sanders is twenty four to twenty

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Speaker 6: five years old already because he's been in college for

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Speaker 6: five years. So like he's he's as ready as Kendall

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02:00:14,720 --> 02:00:16,880
Speaker 6: be coming out of college, you know, like cam Ward's

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02:00:16,920 --> 02:00:18,320
Speaker 6: like maybe a little bit more of the raw and

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02:00:18,840 --> 02:00:21,840
Speaker 6: upside play. But in terms of Shador, I don't know

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02:00:22,560 --> 02:00:24,280
Speaker 6: how much more pro ready you really.

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Speaker 4: They both played a lot of college football.

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Speaker 2: Though. Yeah, all right, that's gonna do it for this

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Speaker 2: edition of Patriots Unfiltered. We'll be back on Thursday. We'll

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Speaker 2: see what happens between now and then.

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Speaker 17: Who knows.

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02:00:34,560 --> 02:00:37,680
Speaker 2: Cat's twenty two Tomorrowrow at noon, at noon, all right,

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Speaker 2: the boys will be here and you'll be talking about

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Speaker 2: everything that we talked about.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, just probably be this, but with.

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Speaker 2: Barth it's a whole different take more.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll see you Thursday.

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