1 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: What's up everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Wrestling 2 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: with Freddy. I appreciate you guys hanging with us for 3 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: this long no guests today, it's story time. Get ready, 4 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: welcome to the Federation and w WF stars right now 5 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: now stuffing up for the mic. The host of Wrestling 6 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: with Freddy Freddie Prince tune. Yeah, Today's episode is going 7 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: to be a little different. I've spoken a lot about 8 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 1: the things I've been proud of the things I thought 9 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: I did well, but we haven't spoken about any of 10 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: the mistakes. We haven't spoken about the learning process and 11 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: the hard lessons and things that I wish I could 12 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: have back. So today's episode is all about that. Today 13 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna focus on one wrestler in particular, and that's 14 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: the former Diva's Champion Michelle McCool. A situation that I 15 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: had with her that I just really wish I could 16 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: have taken the whole thing. But I had been at 17 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:05,559 Speaker 1: the company about four months, and in that amount of time, 18 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: I had written a few promos that the company really liked. 19 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: I started getting assignments that were larger than just hey, 20 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: we need you to do a promo for Wrestler X 21 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: on Tuesday Night, which was our SmackDown episodes when we 22 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: would record them. And so I got tasked by Stephanie 23 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: McMahon to write uh Diva's story. They called it the 24 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: Diva's title, and the female wrestlers were divas then, which 25 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: I always thought was so stupid. So this was the 26 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: story I was writing, and she said, I we're signing 27 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: Awesome Coong, which was this female wrestler named Kias Stevens. 28 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: And to see her is to just be an awesome cong. 29 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: I mean, she's my height and she's huge. And when 30 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: she wrestled in t NA, she had an amazing story 31 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: with Gail Kim. It was where they would just throw 32 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: these matches together. Gayl could spin around, was small and 33 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: light and awesome calm. Kia Stevens could just be a 34 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: tree and and it was like watching a tire swing 35 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: swinging around her. It was. It was really cool. So 36 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: we had signed her and we had another wrestler named 37 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: Beth Phoenix. Beth Phoenix actually wrestled in high school on 38 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: the boys team. She lifted weights. She is buff jacked, 39 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: not like shredded, like like like a Bruce Lee kind 40 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: of shred like a buff woman who could go in 41 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: there and pick up anybody and smash them. So those 42 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: two were the ones I was assigned to create a 43 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: WrestleMania match for. This was all the way back in 44 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: two thousand seven. Now, this wasn't a request from Vince 45 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: or from Kevin Dunn. This was a request from Stephanie McMahon, 46 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: who was working on the women's division and making it 47 00:02:55,880 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: means something all the way back then with incredibly limited success. 48 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: But you can look at where it is now and 49 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: she's had her her thumb print on each and every 50 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 1: one of those those steps to the top, which is 51 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: where I feel they're at right now. So my WrestleMania 52 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: card was gonna be Awesome Kong, who they hadn't named 53 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: Karma yet, which was what they tried to debut her 54 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: as before she mysteriously left the company and the whole 55 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: thing went to pot. It was Beth Phoenix as the 56 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 1: baby face, and it was Awesome Kong as the heel. 57 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: So how do you bring this woman in? Well, the 58 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: way they brought her in or tried to, were these 59 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: vignettes where you would just see this like Barbie Doll 60 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: and the head get ripped off, and the philosophy behind 61 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: it was here comes this monster who they were gonna 62 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: call Karma, hate all the pretty girls, and want to 63 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: destroy all the pretty girls because Barbie doesn't represent what 64 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: a real woman is. It's a it's a fraud, and 65 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: all these women have been deceived. And they took pieces 66 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: from my story when they actually tried did their vignettes, 67 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: but I never had any of the Barbie doll stuff 68 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: in there. This was more Kia could talk, so I 69 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: thought it would be good to to allow her to 70 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: tell her story. I like when heels tell their story 71 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: more than when baby faces do. I feel like baby 72 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: faces someone else should tell their story. Otherwise they're talking 73 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: about how great they are. But a he'll can give 74 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: you their philosophy and you can hate them for it, 75 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: or you can get behind it. And in this case, 76 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:27,799 Speaker 1: I thought we could get a little bit of both. 77 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: So you have this woman who wants to destroy all 78 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: these perfect Barbie dolls. And and these are the girls 79 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: like the Kelly Kelly's that they had there, whose real 80 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: name is Barbie. Like her real name is Barbie born Barbie. 81 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: They called her Babs, I think was her nickname. She's 82 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: super cool. This was gonna be like her first victim 83 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: was Kelly Kelly, and as she sort of started to 84 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: come through and destroy all of the girls that weren't 85 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: really going to compete for the championship. These could be 86 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: squash matches for her. We'd be holding act the first 87 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: challenge that she was really gonna have, which was an 88 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: Italian Nightheart, and Daddy was going to give it a 89 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: good go. But Naddy would eventually lose to her as well, 90 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: which brings us to Gail Kim, who had the history 91 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: with her in t NA, and the company had also 92 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: just signed and this was gonna be the first test 93 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: that our awesome Kong had and Gail would get some 94 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: serious offense off but eventually would fall, and that's when 95 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: Kong would call out for Michelle McCool, the Diva's Champion, 96 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: I want to say Women's champions, that's what she was. 97 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: She would call her out and say, I'm coming for 98 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: that title. I'm writing this story up and all I've 99 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: been told is, hey write me this WrestleMania story. And 100 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: it's not just for Kia and Beth, it's you know, 101 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: I want you to include all of our divas in there. 102 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 1: So that's kind of why you get the long back story. 103 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: So I write this up and I give it to 104 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: Steph and she really likes it, and Freebird really likes it, 105 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: and it goes all the way to the top. It 106 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: goes to Vince and uh, it's approved, but not my 107 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: The WrestleMania match is not guaranteed. That's the goal, right, 108 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: So I have Michelle losing the Diva's Championship at the 109 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: Royal Rumble, which happens a few months, just a few months, 110 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: but a couple of months before WrestleMania, and I have 111 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: her losing with Dignity, and I have her given us 112 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: a real match. I said this at the beginning of 113 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: the podcast. I had been in the company maybe four months, 114 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: maybe four months. I didn't realize the belt meant so 115 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: much to so many different people. It didn't mean that 116 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 1: much to others. If they had the the Intercontinental title belt, 117 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: they weren't really in on when they were going to 118 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: lose it or not. It was it was the company 119 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: that decided that. Same with the United States title, same 120 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: with the tag team titles. And I'm green as all hell, 121 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: I'm a complete rookie. I have no idea the politics 122 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: of it. Michelle never came to the promo class, so 123 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: I didn't really know Michelle at all. And I go 124 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: to work. We're on the road and somewhere in the area, 125 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: you know, backstage, and Michelle says, Stephanie said, you wanted 126 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: to talk to me about the women's storyline. And we 127 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: sit down at a like a cafeteria table that's where 128 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: we work, where everybody's eating. So we're off to the side, 129 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: and I start pitching it to her what it was 130 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: gonna be, which was it wasn't right on my part. 131 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: I get to the Royal Rumble and I explained to 132 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: her that she'll be you know, the suggestion is that 133 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: she drops the title at the Royal Rumble, and then 134 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: I keep telling the story of where it finishes, because 135 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: she deserves to know the whole story. And it gets 136 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: all the way to WrestleMania, which would be Beth and Kia, 137 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: and her face just goes pale. All the color just 138 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: drops right out of or just literally right out of 139 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: her skin. And right away I know I've done something terrible. 140 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: I just don't know what it is yet because I 141 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: didn't This is hindsight, right, and I was in the moment, 142 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: so I look I go what what, what's wrong? What's wrong? 143 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: And her eyes well up and I'm like, oh my god, 144 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: what did what did I do? What did I do? 145 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: And she said I didn't. I didn't think i'd be 146 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: losing the belt before WrestleMania, and I didn't. Again, I 147 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: didn't understand how much that title men to her because 148 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: the only other sort of interaction I had was on 149 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: the men's side with the I C in the U 150 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: S belts, which got traded quite frequently, although not when 151 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: it was on M v P. So I just didn't. 152 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 1: I didn't think it was a big deal, I said. 153 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: I said, Yeah, I was. I was asked to make 154 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: Kia Stevens and Beth Phoenix for WrestleMania, and this was 155 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: the best way I thought I thought we could get there. 156 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: Is is there a problem? She's not here to to 157 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: give her side of the story, So I'm not gonna 158 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: say all the all the stuff that she said, but 159 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: she was, she was upset in hindsight, rightfully, So let 160 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 1: me kind of paint a bit of a picture of 161 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: the women's division. Back then, they did not have anywhere 162 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: near the respect that they have today. And I mean 163 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: that in every sense of the word. They weren't treated fairly, 164 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: their matches were not treated fairly, their characters were not 165 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 1: treated fairly. Nothing about it, well, hey, life's not fair. No, 166 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: it was beyond that. It was simply there was no 167 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:24,599 Speaker 1: opportunity period. I never forget about the Mullahs or the 168 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: Leta and and Trish generation, like they all they all 169 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: unlocked the door for these next generations. But Michelle fell 170 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: in this void in between Lida and Trish and in 171 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: between the Bella Revolution that happened, where there was just 172 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: nothing there and everything that was written for her and 173 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 1: everyone else, at least when I was there, on the 174 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: women's side, was just a brick wall, constantly running into 175 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 1: a brick wall and planning matches that you know, we're 176 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: gonna get cut matches that were promised to not promised, 177 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 1: but promised to them. Hey, you're gonna have ten minutes 178 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: at the pay per view, and then it would get 179 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: cut down to five minutes, and then after the production 180 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: meeting it was just the dark match that didn't even 181 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: make it to the pay per view. So they were struggling. 182 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: Michelle was getting five minutes to tell a story in 183 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: the ring. That's with her entrance that was one minute, 184 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: and her opponent's entrance that was one minute. So now 185 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: they have three minutes to have a wrestling match three minutes. 186 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: That's crazy, that's crazy. And she was good. She was 187 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: somebody who constantly tried to bring reality to her to 188 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 1: her matches. She tried to bring in real mm a 189 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: with heel hooks and jiu jitsu submissions. She she had 190 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: a passion for that, as did her husband, the Undertaker. 191 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: So she was constantly battling in a in a time 192 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: where the company just didn't blink. They just didn't blink 193 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: when it came to the women's division. So so here 194 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: I am with the champion and she's crying because of me, 195 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: because I didn't talk to her first to say, hey, 196 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: we're thinking about taking the title off of you at 197 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: the Royal Rumble so that we can get this other Matt. 198 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: I mean, that just sounds horrible even saying it now. 199 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: So I screwed up. I screwed up. I should have 200 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: before I got the story approved, I probably should have 201 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: shown it to although when you hear the end of 202 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: the story, it probably wouldn't got it would have gotten 203 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: killed even sooner. I don't know what the right move 204 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: was here, but I know that I screwed up and 205 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: she deserved better than that. She's probably the most underserved champion, 206 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: the at least women's champion the company's had as far 207 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: as resources available and resources used. I don't know what 208 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: to do. And while I'm talking to her, I worked 209 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 1: out a way story wise with her to turn WrestleMania 210 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: into a triple threat between Beth Phoenix, Kia Stevens awesome 211 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: cong Burma, choose your favorite, and and Beth Phoenix. I 212 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: haven't even gotten this match approved by by Free Bird 213 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: or anyone, but I'm trying to. I'm just trying to 214 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: help right or not backpedal. I'm trying to move forward. 215 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: I'm trying the front pedal. I take it back to 216 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: to Michael and the Bellas. You gotta remember we're just debuting, 217 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: so i'd quosed. I just did this documentary for Annie 218 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: about the Bellas and their debut and sort of their 219 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: contribution to the business. And I don't know who all 220 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: they had on there. Hopefully they got Finley because he 221 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: was sort of the champion for all the women wrestlers 222 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 1: back then and when they were called up. I mean, 223 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: this was the guy that was trying to let them 224 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: do the same techniques and moves that the men do 225 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: every single production meeting. Hopefully they get free Bird on there, 226 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: because he was the one that ran into the room 227 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: when we were about to lose him because Breebella called 228 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 1: John Larneitas and I was like, look, our contracts are up. 229 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: You put us on TV or we're gone, and John 230 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: larn It is called Freebird ands like, you're gonna find 231 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: a way to get the Twins on television right now, 232 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: and Freebird runs in the writer's room. He's like, we 233 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: got twins, we gotta get him on TV. And all 234 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: the writers are like, what, we're not even am I 235 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: allowed to watch the fc W tapes you said, I wasn't. 236 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 1: Like everybody was so confused, and it was all because 237 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: of Brie and Nikki. But Bree is like behind the 238 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: scenes jaws of the two of them, right, like whatever 239 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 1: the killer whale one was, orca that one that's Nikki 240 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: because she's more hardcore like in the ring, but in life, 241 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: Breeze like, nah, dude, I will cut you. So that's 242 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: why they accomplished all they accomplished. But before the Bella's 243 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: and before the women were getting commercial breaks and ten 244 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 1: fifteen twenty minute Oh I'm sorry, here's an Iron Woman 245 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: match for you between I think it was Sasha Banks 246 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: and Bailey like that. Sick that all happens because the 247 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: Bella's had a reality show called Total Divas and Total 248 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 1: Bella's and it was getting higher ratings than Monday in Hira. 249 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: So they started bringing their storylines or creating storylines on 250 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: their reality show and allowing those to motivate the matches, 251 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: which was such a sick, next level business move, Bribella, 252 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: thank you very much. But before they existed, Michelle McCool 253 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: was having to hold down this fort. It was all 254 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: on her shoulders. And here comes this jerk writer from 255 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: l A who doesn't know where at all and has 256 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: been there not even half a year, and he's gonna 257 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: take it all away at the Royal Rumble and there's 258 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: gonna be a Women's WrestleMania match, and and she's not 259 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: going to be in it. When she's been holding the 260 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: fort for this not even PG brand that she's been 261 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: forced to hold. It was borderline g rating the storylines 262 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: that she was doing. She had to put up with 263 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: a lot, and I think I'm just thinking out loud now, 264 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: but I think maybe that might not have been the 265 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: biggest slap in the face, but it was the straw 266 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: that broke the camel's back, so to speak. Or maybe 267 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: it was just a tremendous slap and and and I 268 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: was an idiot. I mean that's how I feel now 269 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: looking back at it. There's an aftermath. I talked to 270 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: Beth and she is gung ho as all as all hell. 271 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: I mean, it's the storyline of storylines. We had two versions, 272 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: one where she overcomes all these odds, all these obstacles 273 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: and she gets kiss Stevens up in the glam Slam, 274 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: and we talked can you get her up? Can you 275 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: get everything? And she's like, oh, yeah, I can get 276 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: her up, don't worry. And she could. I mean she 277 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: could deadlift a million pounds. So it wasn't it wasn't. 278 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: That wasn't an issue. And the other was Kia needed 279 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: to win and we were gonna have a healed champion, 280 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: and she was going to destroy the Diva's Championship and 281 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: turn it into the Women's Championship, which is what she 282 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: wanted to do, which then would obviously turned her baby face. 283 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: Beth is super gung ho for it. Kia's all in. 284 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: I even had them do a promo like off of 285 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: each other, which was going to be a part of 286 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: the story. I think I touched on in another episode 287 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: where Kia is just circling Beth just like a like 288 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: a lion about to play with its food, but instead 289 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: of trying to kill it, it tries to covet the gazelle, 290 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: so to speak, Beth being the figure of gazelle. So 291 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: instead of saying I'm gonna destroy you, she says, no, no, no, no, 292 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: I want you to join me because you're just like me. 293 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: You're not these little you know, Barbie doll bar And 294 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: this was all her freestyling. This is I didn't even 295 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: write this. This was just let me yeah, let me 296 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: give props. Like Kia just off the dome was like yo, 297 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: I got this, and she's just walking this circle. She's like, 298 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: I want you to join me. All I said was trigger. 299 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: That's all. That was the only note that I gave her. 300 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: And she starts going in on how beautiful Beth is 301 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: and it's not sexual, but it could be borderline sexual, right, 302 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: but it's more just impressed and you're gonna shower them 303 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 1: with compliments so they know you're not their enemy, even 304 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: though you're really just gonna stab him in the back. 305 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: And she walked around her three times, nice and slow. 306 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: I mean it was like a Shakespearean play. And this 307 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: is in front of all her peers, like all the 308 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: other wrestlers are sitting in there, misses in there. I 309 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: think he had this guy named Alex something was his 310 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: like protege coming up for medics. Every everyone was in there. 311 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: We were like thirty deep at that point, and she's 312 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: just no fear. This was her well, by the way, 313 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 1: her very first promo class kids like, she was, Oh, Hi, 314 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: nice to meet you. Don't worry, baby, I got this. 315 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, it's got step part right on. 316 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: And she killed it. And she protects Beth in that 317 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: moment because Beth wasn't the strongest on the mic. So 318 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: Beth is in this segment that would get over huge, 319 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: at least in my mind, would and all she's having 320 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 1: to do is look strong and be the baby face 321 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 1: hell no, and then get her at the very end 322 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: with like yo, like whatever her line would sound good 323 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: coming out of her mouth, whether it's that's not gonna 324 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: happen or I'll never join you, or you know, bet 325 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: or just a punch in the face, maybe Batista style, 326 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: you never know. So we had all this and I'm 327 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: feeling good man and I talked to her about a 328 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: triple threat and that's like, yeah, the more than Mary. 329 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: She just wants everyone to get paid, right, So she's like, 330 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: am making it making an eight an eight woman madagine, 331 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: everybody can get their check. And Kei is down like 332 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: she she's ready to go. She's gonna be She's gonna 333 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: probably be the champion. So we shoot that episode that night, 334 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: that's smack Down, and I get to work. Wednesday was 335 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: our travel day back. I get to work on the 336 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: travel day. She's always lovely. So we we land in 337 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: White Plains. I go into the Stanford office and I'm 338 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: about an hour into my day. I'm trying to like 339 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: sneak a promo off to Brian Kendrick so he can 340 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: kind of get a head start on it. And uh, 341 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: and this guy Ezekiel Jackson, they called him, his real 342 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: name is Rickland. Michael goes, uh, Bretty, let me talk 343 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: to you, all right, go into his office. He shows 344 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: he shows me this. He goes, he says, you probably 345 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: got some crazy fans, right, I said, yes, you know, 346 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: I've had my fair share. He goes, let me fucking 347 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: show you something. He opens a drawer. He goes, look 348 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: at this ship I got, and he holds up a 349 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: picture and it's this big leg with a tattoo of 350 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: him on the leg. And I go, what, man, what 351 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: do you what are you showing? He goes that's me. 352 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: I go, well, no, but did you get that too 353 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: that tattoo? Goes funck No, that's just on some crazy fucker, 354 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: and I just started I die laughing, right, and so 355 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: I'm disarmed now and he crosses his arm and leans 356 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: over the desk. The dude is a lifelong pro wrestler. 357 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: He's not management, right, but he's trying to be a manager. 358 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 1: After about six months, he and I were just cool, 359 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: like he would go, Freddie that sucked or Freddy that 360 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: was good, and it was just real shorthand with us 361 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: at that point. But this was when he was still 362 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: trying to be super professional. He crossed his hands and goes, Freddy, 363 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: there's a problem with your diva's storyline and we need 364 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 1: to talk about it. I said, what what, what's the problem. 365 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: He goes it's gone. I said, what do you mean 366 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: it's gone? Man? And he goes, it's gone. I said, 367 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: what happened? He goes, well, Michelle said that you and 368 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: her talk and she didn't really like the story, so 369 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: it's gone. I said, I did. I was I supposed 370 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: This is when I first said, was I supposed to 371 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: ask her? Like? Oh? This? He goes Freddy. She talked 372 00:20:52,400 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: to undertaker. Undertaker, talk to Vince. The story's gone. Now. 373 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,959 Speaker 1: Probably the color in my face dropped, right. I don't know. 374 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: I wasn't looking at myself, but this had never really 375 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 1: happened to me before. Like I it wasn't getting chastised, 376 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: but it was like, hey, your idea is gone. Be 377 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: you screwed up so bad that this person wasn't comfortable 378 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: telling you that this wasn't gonna happen. They went and 379 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: spoke to someone else to make sure this wasn't gonna happen. 380 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: Like she didn't feel comfortable being open and honest with 381 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: me in that moment, or or down that down that road, 382 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: and again in in hindsight, yeah, I get it. She 383 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 1: she had to do that. She had to protect the 384 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: foundation that she had laid down, regardless of what you 385 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: think of that championship run. That's not on her. She 386 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: doesn't get to pick when the studio is too afraid 387 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: to say the word asked on TV, they're not afraid 388 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: to show one, but they won't let you say it 389 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: because of stockholders or because we were changing from one 390 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: channel to the next. So it was a thankless job. 391 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 1: And here I come in just sort of reckon someone's dream. 392 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: You know, it's not it's not on me, but it's 393 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: not something that I'm proud of the way I presented 394 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: it to her. The I should ask more questions. I 395 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: think it was reasonable for me to assume that that 396 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: championship meant a lot more to her than just a 397 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 1: part of a storyline. I think that's if that was 398 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: her expectation. I think that's reasonable. But yeah, man, I 399 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: screwed up. I screwed up, and I didn't I didn't 400 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 1: like that feeling. Man. It was tough working with the 401 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: girls because I can't I can count on one hand 402 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: how many dudes right in front of me. The women 403 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: there were much more emotional because their opportunities were far, 404 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: far less, so if they got anything they liked, they 405 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: had to hit a home run. Imagine getting one at 406 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: baddest season and if you don't hit a home run, 407 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 1: you won't play again. Ever, that was the position these 408 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: women were in. It was It was crazy to me, 409 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: so I I cared a lot. Michelle and I weren't 410 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 1: really the same after that, so there wasn't I don't 411 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: even remember if an apology happened. I'm saying on my end, 412 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: she doesn't owe me an apology, but yeah, things things 413 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: were different. Things were for sure different after that. And 414 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: then I I left the company for a little while, 415 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: and they have brought I think another Hollywood writer who 416 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: created the lay Cool which was Layla and Michelle McCool 417 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 1: is kind of a team, even though Michelle was the champion, 418 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: and then they sort of had a promise that she 419 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: would drop the title to Layla when she was done 420 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: with the business. And when I came back my second time, 421 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: as that guy was leaving, I wasn't. I wasn't a 422 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 1: fan of the Lake Coal thing. I'm not trying to 423 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: trash it. I just didn't. I didn't think that was 424 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: the right direction for for women in their thirties to 425 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: be to be acting like that. It just didn't click 426 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: to me. I know, they were looking to get like 427 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: teenage girls, and that's important, but that was the wrong 428 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: time to pursue the role model female wrestler when you're 429 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 1: calling them divas. It just wasn't It wasn't the right time. 430 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 1: It wasn't the right time. It wasn't until I think 431 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:57,239 Speaker 1: the Bella's kind of blew up the women's division, at 432 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 1: least in w w E. It's not to say there 433 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: wasn't women killing it all over the world and other promotions, 434 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: but the biggest promotion I didn't say best, that's the 435 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 1: biggest promotion where you had the biggest opportunity in the 436 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: most eyeballs on you was the w w E. And 437 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: when the Bellas came in there with that reality show, 438 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: it genuinely changed the business. And it's so strange when 439 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 1: you find these people that that got middled right, like 440 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 1: a throwing quarterback in a running quarterbacks league, if they 441 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: would have only been born ten years ago, or with 442 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: the rules quarterbacks have, if Dan Marino was drafted today, 443 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 1: you know you'd have all the records. If Michelle McCool 444 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: was coming up now and the same age as Becky 445 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: Lynch and Charlotte Flair, knowing what she knows, knowing what 446 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 1: she's learned from some of the best wrestlers in the business. 447 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: Her relationship with fit Finley was always top shelf. He 448 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: had her act so much. He was the one that 449 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 1: got her the heel hook and got her to allowed 450 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 1: her to not allowed her, but got permission for her 451 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 1: to use it, only to have it taken away again. 452 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: So stupid. I want, I just I wonder, I wonder 453 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 1: where she would be as far as top girls, right, 454 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: top guys and top girls. She was underserved when I 455 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: worked there. She wasn't taking care of the way you 456 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: should take care of a champion, and that that part 457 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: is partially on on me to blame. But the company 458 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: didn't appreciate women the way they do now, and it 459 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,360 Speaker 1: isn't because the women are so much better. They had 460 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: some legit, straight up athlete gangsters on the roster Eve 461 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: Torres or Eve Torres. Graci can do moon salts, and 462 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: then some they just don't allow her to do it, 463 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 1: and she got to do it a couple of times. 464 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: But they had they had some monsters on there that 465 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: could work, they just weren't allowed to work. And it 466 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 1: was you know, you hear frustration in my voice. Imagine 467 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: being one of them. Imagine not commentating on it. Imagine 468 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: trying to live that. A lot of you probably can 469 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: male or female. You a lot of you can relate 470 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: to being in a job where, damn you're contributing. You know, 471 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: your work is valuable, and you just not even looked at, 472 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: just not even not even looked at. And had she 473 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 1: not been married to undertake her, what happens then? What 474 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: happens if undertaker isn't in the picture and says, yo, man, 475 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: you gotta get this. My girl worked too hard to 476 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: have you, you know, take it away like this, and 477 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: Vince going, now, yeah, you're right, I up sorry, which 478 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: is probably all that happened, right, It's just it was 479 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: a it was a tough situation all the way around 480 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: that that shouldn't have happened. She wasn't appreciate it, and 481 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: and I guess you know the other way is he? 482 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: That's that show business, right. There's plenty of actors and 483 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: musicians that were born in the wrong gen ration and 484 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: not appreciate it until, you know, after their their active 485 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: contributions were were gone. But watch some of her stuff, man, 486 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 1: she she does some UFC moves in there go on 487 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: YouTube and and deep and deep dive. I know she's 488 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: not a household name, but it's an important part of 489 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: w w A history because she was a champion. It's 490 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 1: certainly an important part of my short time there, which 491 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: and I should have shared this story sooner. I think 492 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: I just blocked it out. And she held the line 493 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: for a couple of good years there before the Bellas 494 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: were able to do what they did. And I promise you, 495 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: not me, not Vince, not Fit, not Freebird, not anyone 496 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: in the w w E was ready or prepared or 497 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: could predict what the Bellas we're going to do with 498 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: that business. I want to thank you guys very much 499 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: for listening, Thanks for letting me confess to you as 500 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: this Amia Copla, is that what you call it? If 501 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: I haven't apologize to Michelle and she hears this, I 502 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: owe you an apology, girl. And if you say, oh, no, 503 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: you're don't, it's all good. We were all just doing it. 504 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: That's nice to you. But I still do Other than that, 505 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: I hope all you guys are doing well. I look 506 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: forward to recording these for y'all every single week. I 507 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: ain't going anywhere, and I see y'all soon on another 508 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: episode of Wrestling with Freddy right here. This has been 509 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: a production of I Hearts Michael podcast Network. For more 510 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: podcasts for My Heart Radio, visit the I Heart Radio app, 511 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. 512 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: H