1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Chuck here for your Saturday select. If you 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: ever wanted to know how Rabies works, we talked about 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: it in great detail from February nine, two thousand sixteen. 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: Give it a tryway, don't you not Rabies? That is? 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: But this podcast episode How Rabies Works. Welcome to Stuff 6 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: You Should Know, a production of I Heart Radios How 7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: Stuff Works. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. 8 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: There's Charles w Chuck, Bryant, Jerry and stuff you should know. 9 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: You're bombing at the mouth, Jerry, don't let him bite you, 10 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: all right, you bet, Jerry. I'm gonna have to put 11 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: both of you down like Old Yeller. Let's do. It's 12 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: about time. I knew from day one when we started 13 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: working together that this is how it would conclude. Yeah, 14 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: me shooting both of you because of brabies wittness down 15 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: old Yellow Wait wait, speaking of Old Yeller, I'm sorry. 16 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: Have you seen the kids in the hall take on 17 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: Old Yeller? I don't think so. Yeah, Paul makes the 18 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: kid shoot the dog and he's his face is sprayed 19 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 1: with blood from the gunshot wound. So wonderful. Yeah, worst 20 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: children's book ever. Oh, I guess we just spoiled it. Huh. 21 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: Everyone knows Old Yeller gets rabies and is shot. Yeah, 22 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: I don't even bother emailing him. But there is a 23 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: happy ending. Uh. You know, Old Yeller has pups and 24 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: they get a pup, so instead of like coming back 25 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: as a ghost dog, that like helps things turn out 26 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: well for the family. It left a legacy in the 27 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: Dawkinsian view right, still the worst children's book ever, although 28 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: it teaches valuable life lessons about death. Why you gotta 29 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: do that by killing Old Yeller? I don't know, but 30 00:01:54,320 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: I mean it works all right. Rabies, I don't know. 31 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: I thought we'd done this one. It seems like an 32 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: obvious one for us. Uh. Yeah, it's definitely in our 33 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: wheelhouse for sure. Um. I did not know this either. 34 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: It is a virus on every continent in the world 35 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: except Antarctica, which a lot of viruses that hold that 36 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: that title that aren't on Antarctica inhospitable place. And if 37 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: a virus is on every continent, chances are it's a 38 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: very old one too, and rabies definitely is extremely old. Um. 39 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: People have been writing about rabies for a very long time. 40 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: The Mesopotamians who know it's old if you say that word. Sure. Um. 41 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: They used to have a law where if your dog 42 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: was rabid, you faced the stiff penalty, a fine of sorts. 43 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: We have those laws today in the United States. I 44 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: mean a lot of our laws stem from Mesopotamian, the 45 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: code of Hammurabi. You know, like if you watch somebody's 46 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: house burned down and don't do anything, that person can 47 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: kill you. Still today, just like from the Code of Hammurabi. 48 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: So if you're neighbor's house on fire, you have to 49 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: put it out. You have to help put it out. 50 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: In Mesopotamia. Uh So, the word rabies um in many 51 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: languages means um a rage or go crazy. Um. In 52 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 1: Latin it is from a Sanskrit term robajas to do violence. 53 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: And then French uh laaragee it's the sexiest form of 54 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: rabies comes from the French now and robert, meaning to 55 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: go mad. So if you're not picking up on it. Um, 56 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: it's not a friendly virus. No, it's not the one 57 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: that you get a dog. Well, actually we'll talk about that. 58 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna save it. And for a long time, I mean, 59 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: there was nothing we could do about rabies. Yeah, Um, 60 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: people went to Liege Belgium to pray to um sat Hubert. Yeah, 61 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: it's a round name, isn't it not. Yeah. St. Hubert 62 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: was the patron saint of Huntsman. Okay, and uh not 63 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: quality footwear. No, and apparently apparently no, that was St. 64 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: Clark apparently um St Hubbands. Actually I've not heard of that. 65 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: It's a spinal tap joke. You never get my spinal 66 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: tap jokes. No, I need to see it more than once. 67 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: Apparently there for the people out there, that's fine. There's 68 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: like a hundred dudes. We'll just I'll sit here and 69 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: be the straight man. I don't know what I'm talking about. Yeah, 70 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: Derek St. Hubbands was the patron state of his ancestors. 71 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: Patron stated of quality footwear. Great joke. That is a 72 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: good joke, man, I'm sorry stepped all over it. Um 73 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: so in leaves you would go and pray to St. 74 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: Hubert for protection. Probably not the most effective way to 75 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: treat rabies. No, I don't blame people for making a 76 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: pilgrimage to lead. From what I understand about rabies based 77 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: on researching this, it's terrible. Yeah, it's horrific and fatal. 78 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: And it wasn't until the late nineteenth century eighteen eighty 79 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,799 Speaker 1: five when the late great Louis Pasteur man, this dude, 80 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: he would, didn't that guy do to save the world? Yeah, 81 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: we should. He's up in our line. And now we 82 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: have a kind of ongoing line of like great scientists. Uh, 83 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: so we will include him on the list. And we 84 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 1: need to start acknowledging the ladies too, So Madam Curie, 85 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: sure we've got our eye on you. That's right, that's right. 86 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: Uh and um. Anyway, so Louis Pasture came up with 87 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: a vaccine for rabies, and he was he was one 88 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: of the early germ theory guys. He was very president person. 89 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: His his inoculation trials were based on the idea that 90 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 1: if you introduced some like a low level of rabies 91 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: to a living being, that living being would produce anybody's 92 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: and you could introduce increasingly larger amounts over time, and 93 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: eventually the person's antibodies would be robust enough so that 94 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,679 Speaker 1: if they ever faced rabies in the wild, they would 95 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: be able to fight it off. And he was absolutely 96 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: and what a crazy thing to think, though, you know, 97 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: it is when no one knows anything about germ theory 98 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: to think like, why don't we put the disease in 99 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: the person, Maybe that'll help cure it. And I think 100 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: I think that was around for a while, but I 101 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: think it was like some arcane knowledge that not everyone 102 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: knew about, and past Year really capitalized that amazing. Um. 103 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: But he actually had been working on something using rabbits 104 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: as test cases and was basically he proved it can 105 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: work in humans by by a boy who had been 106 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: attacked by a dog, I think, and contracted rabies. Um, 107 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: and uh, Louis past your said, here goes nothing, and 108 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: he's stuck in with the shot. And the parents went 109 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: and here goes nothing. Right, he goes no nothing, And 110 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: they said, well, you said this was gonna work. I said, 111 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: no such thing. It's good, Louis, thank you. It's technically 112 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: that Um the text, you know, the U Chuck Jones 113 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: version of Napoleon when bugs bunnies hang out with him. 114 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's how I learned to do a French 115 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: accent Chuck, the Great Chuck Jones. Uh so, rabies. Let's 116 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,119 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about what it does in your body. Um, 117 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: it's really pretty vicious. It It is a viral disease. 118 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: Like we said, at the top and it attacks the 119 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: central nervous system, the brain and the central nervous system. Um. 120 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: It is part of the rab dough vera day yeah family. 121 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: Under the genus you take the genus the lie of 122 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: virus that was too easy. It was easy, um and 123 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: its shaped like a bullet and when it comes in 124 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: the body, it basically goes as fast as it can 125 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: to the spinal cord yeah um through something called afferent nerves. 126 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: With an A they carry impulses towards the central nervous system, 127 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: as opposed to efferent with an E they carry impulses away, 128 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: but it uses both. So this virus travels along um 129 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: the neural pathways through the central nervous system, and it 130 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: goes immediately to the central nervous to the spinal cord 131 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: and then up to the brain yea. And in the 132 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: brain that's where it replicates. You remember, like HIV replicates 133 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: inside t helper cells. Well, rabies is a virus that 134 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: replicates inside your neurons, your brain cells, which is not 135 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: a good place for a virus to start doing. It's 136 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: replicating right and right after it starts replicating in the brain, 137 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: it makes a second stop a very important stop to 138 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: your salivary glands. And the reason it does that is 139 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: because that is the number one mechanism of transmission for rabies. Yeah, 140 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: that's when you see the foaming at the mouth. It's 141 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: not just a uh symptom of rabies. But that's the 142 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: main way that you're going to get it is by 143 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: being bitten by something with all kinds of nasty rabid saliva. 144 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: And apparently because this stuff is um wrecking your brain 145 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: by hijacking your brain cells and destroying them. There's two 146 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: different versions of rabies, right and step latic, which is 147 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: also known as the furious form of rabies. That's the 148 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: one you think of when you think of a crazy 149 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 1: rabid dog that's hallucinating and running around in circles and 150 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: chasing its tail and biting at the air. UM old 151 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: yeller basically, although they toned it down a bit, they 152 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: did because they didn't want to scare the kids before 153 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: they shot. And then there's a paralytic or dumb form, 154 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: and that one is more like lapsing into coma basically, UM, 155 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: and I don't know. Surely there's no way to predict 156 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 1: which way that the things the virus is going to 157 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: go in a human right, because it's destroying brain cells. 158 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 1: I would think it would just be totally accidental whether 159 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: it went towards the enciphalatic or the the um paralytic form. 160 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: That's a good question, you know, it would just depend 161 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: on where it lodges first. Right, Yeah, but both of 162 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: the forms are in the acute stage. UM. And here's 163 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: what's so scary. Once it's in the acute stage, once 164 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: let's hit your central nervous system, you're done. It's almost 165 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: exclusively done. And we'll talk about that. That's that is 166 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: the for a very for millennia. The UM this the 167 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 1: idea behind rabies is like it was, it's a fatal disease, fatal, 168 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: except now they've started to find a few cases here 169 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: there that's not the case. And that's they're starting to wonder, Okay, 170 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: is this something we could treat after people are traditionally goners. 171 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: Well that's a great tease. So let's uh take a 172 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 1: break and we'll come back right after this with moron rabies. Okay, 173 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: So we mentioned the two forms. They're both in the 174 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 1: acute state age and apparently both stages can happen uh 175 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: in a single case. It's not necessarily one of the other. Right, 176 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: it makes sense, like if this region of your brain 177 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 1: is wrecked and you're furious and raging, well eventually it's 178 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: going to get to the part of your brain where 179 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: you're like you can't move or breathe and you slip 180 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: into a coma and die of respiratory distress, you know. 181 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: But also got the impression that wasn't necessarily like that's 182 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: the path, Like it can start in the dumb stage 183 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like it would 184 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: just depend on where the virus, what part of your 185 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: brain the virus coast to it's got to you know. Yeah. 186 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: Um was something I didn't realize about Raby's chuck was 187 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: that it's exclusive to mammals. I knew that I didn't um, 188 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: but I also have wondered over the years, LIKEWI, isn't 189 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: like a rabid squirrel would be your worst nightmare, I imagine, 190 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: you know, because they'll already come at you. Yeah, you know, 191 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: and a rabid one would definitely come out You're one 192 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: of the One of the um traits of or symptoms 193 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: of rabid mammal is that a wild one has no 194 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: fear of humans. Yeah, they're aggressive. Um. In fact, there's 195 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: a case I looked up, as I often do, just 196 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: in the news, and little boy in New Jersey just 197 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 1: this week was attacked by raccoon. This raccoon leapt onto 198 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: his back while he was walking down the street during 199 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: the day. And we will get to the hallmarks. But 200 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: that's very important. If you see a nocturnal animal cruising 201 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: around during the day at great speeds, stay away. Oh 202 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: you're not supposed see raccoons in the neighborhood during the day. Yeah, 203 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: just go get your pause. Bb gun. Well I don't 204 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: know about that, but call animal control and they'll get there. 205 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: Be begun. Um. But yeah, this little boy was was 206 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: this raccoon jumped on his back and started biting his 207 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: face and neck. Where did you learn to pronounced raccoon? Raccoon? 208 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: Now I say raccoon. That's just one of my jokes. 209 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: People don't know though. When I said Alex Baldwin, I know, 210 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: people literally wrote in like like it's Alec, how did 211 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: you miss thirty Rock? And Alec Baldwin said, I don't care. Yeah, 212 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: I don't know who this chuck is. So anyway, um, yeah, 213 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: you're right. Um, the little boy I think is gonna 214 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: be okay, which is a good news, but it's uh, well, 215 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: we'll get to the rarity of it. Plus he was 216 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: attacked in New Jersey, which is in the U s. 217 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: Which means he's going to be just fine. Right, But 218 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: a long way of saying that UM, squirrels and mice 219 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: and and other smaller animals typically don't get it, and 220 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: it makes good sense. It's because if they are attacked 221 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: by a rabid animal, they're they're small and probably won't survive. 222 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: Like they could very well get rabies. Every sign says 223 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: they can, but they'll probably pour A little mouse will 224 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: probably just die, right, because if a raccoon gets its 225 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: hands on a mouse, it's all over and it bites it. 226 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 1: That saliva is gonna be transmitted to the wound. But 227 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: you also need the host to be alive for the 228 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: virus to replicate in that host. Exactly if their neck 229 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: is broken and they're dead, then that it's not gonna work. 230 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, absolutely, but what you said, yes, you can 231 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: get a woodchuck with rabies. Woodchuck's raccoons. Apparently, in the 232 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: United States, raccoons are the most common vector for the 233 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: disease UM now yes, uh. But for the most part, 234 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: it's larger, slight slightly larger small mammals. Does that make sense, woodchucks, raccoons, 235 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: medium sized mammals, medium size on the smallest side, small 236 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: to medium, a medium sized mammal. The means like, um, 237 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: I guess the raccoon, okay uh. And it takes a 238 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: few months for the disease or when its course in 239 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: an animal. But the scary thing is it can lie 240 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: dormant in humans for years, months or years. That's very scary, 241 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: super scary. Yeah, because you guys don't realize. It's like 242 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: you think it's like frothing at the mouth or something. No, 243 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: the rabies virus is one of the scariest viruses on 244 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: the planet. It is um so, like I said, saliva 245 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: is the mode of transmission for most rabies cases, and 246 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: you can catch it very easily. Technically, if you had 247 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: like an open wound and you like rubbed your finger 248 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: where the open wound was. I guess I should have 249 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: specified that earlier. On the saliva of a rabid raccoon 250 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: you could easily catch right, But that's an uncommon thing 251 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: to do. You could also if you um took the 252 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: brain of that raccoon and rubbed it on your open 253 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: wound to your finger. You could also catch it. Even 254 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: more uncommon. But if you came across a raccoon's poop 255 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: that was rabid and you took it and just rubbed 256 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: it all over your hands, the camouflage, the scent of 257 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: your hand probably the most uncommon, you would not catch rabies. 258 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: That's what the good news. Yeah, it doesn't transfer in 259 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: the feces or the blood or the p Yeah, the urine, 260 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: the pp uh. Oh man, it's been p fest at 261 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: my house. You want a little quick side story. I 262 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: changed the litter box before I went to Birmingham, and 263 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: four days later we realized that I didn't put litter 264 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: in the litter box. I emptied it, put the lid 265 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: back on, put it back in, rushed out of the 266 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: door to drive to Birmingham, and four days later we're like, 267 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: our cats are sick because they're peeing on everything in 268 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: the house. Emily went over and she went, hey, well, 269 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: I won't say what she said. It wasn't hey, honey, Uh, 270 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: guess what, there's a lake of urine in the litter 271 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: box and it's all your fault. So we had to 272 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: throw a lot of things away in our home that 273 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: previously we're working just fine. Man. And uh, I got 274 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: the Dummy of the Year award in our house. That's cool. 275 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: You should instagram that trophy Dummy of the year. Yeah, 276 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: I just it's a tattoo now on my on my 277 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: lower back of Alfreddy Newman. So anyway, we've been in 278 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: urine land. So gross. It is so gross, and cat 279 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: pea is not you know, it's it's tough to mask. 280 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: So we're really work lakes of it. Man, what a dummy. 281 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: So anyway, just the moral of the story is litter 282 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: is a very important part of the letter box. So 283 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: and luckily if your cats are rabid, you wouldn't have 284 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: caught anything from that. No, but I'm sure I have 285 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: what's it called, what's the cat disease from changing letter? Oh, 286 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: toxic plasmosis. Gone, I'm sure I've had that for years. Um, 287 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: that's why you do most of the things you do, 288 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: that's right. So uh, it is a very adaptive disease. Um. 289 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: And here's another scary thing, although it's it's not that 290 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: scary because it's super super rare, but in laboratories it 291 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: has been transmitted through the air aerosol transmission, and they 292 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: have found one case where it actually happened in the wild, 293 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: but it was a cave that had like tens of 294 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: millions of infected bats like sneezing and coughing up their 295 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: junk everywhere. And in that case, uh, someone got raby 296 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 1: supposedly through through the air. Three people three bucked into 297 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: the cave in Texas. But that that's uh again, not 298 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: something you need to worry about. Yeah, but humans can 299 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: spread it to and remember you can spread it through saliva, 300 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: which means that if you are kissing, especially kissing with 301 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: tongue French style, a rabid person, and remember it can 302 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: take months, if not years for the symptoms to set 303 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: on UM, you could conceivably catch rabies from that. You 304 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: can also catch it as an STD through sexual contact. 305 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: They believe this is the CDC theorizing at this point 306 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: there's no documented cases UM. And then you could also 307 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: conceivably catch it from like sharing a cigarette with somebody 308 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: or drinking after somebody using the same glass. Again in theory, 309 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: any transmission of shared saliva. But here's the scariest one 310 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 1: to me. UM, it has happened before where you get 311 00:18:54,920 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: a transplant of an organ, typically a corneal transplant, and 312 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: get rabies that way. Yeah, it's like we accidentally gave 313 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: you a cornea with rabies. Yeah. Sorry. And one of 314 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: the problems do you think, well, how could that possibly happen? Apparently, 315 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: rabies is very hard to detect, and the main place 316 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: is to detect it. Remember, it doesn't show up in 317 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: your blood or anything like that. I know, you're in 318 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: your feces, is um, in the saliva and in the 319 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: uh um. Well yeah, and the saliva. It's not even 320 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,479 Speaker 1: super accurate, and it takes longer. So for the past 321 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: forty years in the United States, the way they test 322 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: for rabies if an animal has bit your child as 323 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 1: they capture it and they cut its head off and 324 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: inspect the brain. Right, that's horrifying, it is. But unfortunately, 325 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: like necessary, I guess of a raccoon bite your kid 326 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: off with the head. Maybe an animal lover out there 327 00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 1: who's developing scientists will come up with a better test, 328 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: more accurate rabies tests that will save the lives of 329 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: thousands and millions of woodchucks around the world. But I 330 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: wonder how many times they've been like, oh, thankfully no rabies. Yeah, no, 331 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure, but sorry, your head has cut off. Yeah, 332 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: Like imagine being the clinician who did that. It's kind 333 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: of bumm you out. Yeah, absolutely, because it's like this 334 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: thing's head was cut off because somebody thought it had rabies. 335 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: Terrible all right, So, um, everybody um knows through popular 336 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: culture and things like Old Yellow that the foaming of 337 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: the mouth of a crazy looking dog is a pretty 338 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: good sign to stay clear. But there are many other ways, 339 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 1: especially if they have the dumb form that you might 340 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: not know. Uh. And here are some of those symptoms 341 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: partially or fully paralyzed animal loss of appetite, and a 342 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 1: lot of these can be confused for other things. Because 343 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: my dearly deceased dog Lucy probably ticked off about these. 344 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 1: She really like pc strange behaviors like snapping at the 345 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: air or turning in circles. Lucy did that. Nocturnal animals 346 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: who wander during the day. Um, Like I said, if 347 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: you see a raccoon walking around during the day, it's 348 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: not a good sign. Drool excessively. Lucy drooled. Wild animals 349 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: who showed no fear of humans. Uh. Signs of pikea 350 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: like eating things that aren't food. Lucy did that all 351 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: the time. UM, sporadic changes in mood or behavior Lucy 352 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: restless or aggressive, No, obviously disoriented Lucy. And then a 353 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: change in voice, which I thought was strange. She was like, uh. 354 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: And generally it varies by regions, so like maybe here 355 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: in the South, raccoons or maybe in another place that 356 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: might be skunks largely right with the animals that have 357 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 1: it the most, um. Yeah, but apparently in the United 358 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: States it's raccoons, for sure, they have the most. But 359 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: the mode of transmission in the United States UM comes 360 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: through bats more frequently. Yeah, that's the big these days. 361 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: So if you get like a hundred bats and a 362 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: hundred raccoons, more raccoons are going to have rabies. But 363 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: you're more likely to catch rabies from a bat than 364 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: a raccoon. Yeah. And why is that. Well, there's a 365 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: few reasons bats can get into places that raccoons can't. 366 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: UM and Uh. Bats also have very tiny teeth. Uh. 367 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: And if you're sleeping in a room and you wake 368 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: up and there's a bat in it, it's recommended that 369 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: you kill that bat and take it in for rabies testing. UM. 370 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: So then they can kill it for you. They can 371 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: do your dirty work for you. Um. But the reason 372 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: why is because a bat's teeth are so fine that 373 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: you can have been bitten in the night and it 374 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't have woken you up. You won't you won't know 375 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: that you were bitten, but you may have contracted rabies 376 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: in that case. See are excellent episode on bats, yeah, 377 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: which which is good because they bats are wonderful. You 378 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 1: remember Louisa's came like bat crazy over that one. Yeah, 379 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: very bat friendly podcast. Yeah, so don't kill it beats. 380 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, just look the other way 381 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: if you see a bat in your room, because something 382 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: bad is going to happen to that bat. If your dog, 383 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: we'll take a break after this. But if your dog 384 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: is potentially bitten by an animal you think it might 385 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: be rabid, they will be isolated for ten days. Um. 386 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: And if they make it through that ten days, then 387 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: you're home free. If they don't, sadly, that means you 388 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: have to go the old yellow route, except these days 389 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: it's much more humane. Well I don't know about more humane, 390 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: but they don't take it behind the bart and shoot it. Yeah, yeah, 391 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: I mean I would call that more humane. But in 392 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: you know, rural Texas, they might be like, no, that's 393 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: quick and easy and painless, just like the shot. What 394 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 1: the lethal injection? Yeah, I'm sure that's what they call 395 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: it in Texas. All right, let's take a break. Then, 396 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get your stuff together, get my stuff together, 397 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: and we'll come back with more rabies. Chuck. You ever 398 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: been to Bali? Nope, you haven't neither. By well, Bali, um, 399 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: like Hawaii and some other places around the world, is 400 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: actually a um. It was a rabies free zone, a 401 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: place where like no cases of rabies have been reported. 402 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: They're usually isolated, which makes it hard to get rabies 403 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: into and they usually also have some um really top 404 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: Nutch governmental restrictions, like if you try to take a 405 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: dog in or out of Hawaii, it takes a very 406 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: long time and a lot of paperwork. And one of 407 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: the reasons why it's because they don't want rabies coming 408 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 1: into their to their state. You're taking momoe Hawaii. No, 409 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: that's why she would be but no, we basically she 410 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: would get out of quarantine about the time we were leaving. Gotcha, 411 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: so um, But my in laws moved and they took 412 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: their dogs with them and yeah it was a big deal. Yeah, 413 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure. But in Bali specifically, they were rabies free 414 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: until two thousand and eight, and um, some dogs contracted 415 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: raybies somehow and bit some people and some people died 416 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: and it was a big deal. They were great, there 417 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: goes our rabies free designation. Yeah, so they can get 418 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: it back though, right, Well yeah, um, the government has 419 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: been eradicating aggressively the rabies that was found on the island. 420 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: And I'm not sure if they're doing this. I know 421 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: they're doing a lot of euthanizing, or they did in 422 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: the affected areas, But in the United States, um, some 423 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: wildlife services they're leaving basically what amounts to like a 424 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 1: high a dose of um oral rabies vaccine as tasty 425 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 1: bait out just out in the woods to try to 426 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: like control rabies in the raccoon population. Apparently doesn't harm 427 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: humans or dogs too. And the reason that they're doing 428 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: this is because they saw what a great work, what 429 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 1: a great job at eradicating rabies among dogs in the 430 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: United States, because it used to be that rabies in 431 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: the US was very frequently transmitted by dogs and in 432 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 1: a lot of the rest of the world, Um, the 433 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 1: dogs are still a major mode of transmission, right, but 434 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: in the US of rabies, vaccination push among um pets 435 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: has really lowered that that in the in the dog 436 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: population especially, and push meaning laws. Um. I don't think 437 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: it's in every state now, but I think most states 438 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 1: now required by laws. You're pretty sensible. Yeah, if you 439 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: have a pet, you should have a non rabid pet. Yeah, 440 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 1: like he would say, non know, I don't. I don't 441 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:07,719 Speaker 1: want my dog getting that rabies probably. So. Uh, this 442 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 1: is the most recent stat we have. In two thousand six, 443 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: um point zero one one of all rabies cases in 444 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 1: the United States were almost said feline were canine eleven 445 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: thousands of Yeah, so that's virtually nil and I believe Um. 446 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: In two thousand six that same year, not one case 447 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 1: of rabies death came from an American dog, not one 448 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: case of human raby's death, right correct. Yeah. And then 449 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: of all us wildlife rabies cases are bats. Yeah, which 450 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: led to in two thousand six, UM, two of the 451 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: three rabies related deaths were from bat transmissions bat bites. Yes, 452 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: could actually let me. I spoke wrong that it wasn't 453 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: in two thousand six. It was only since n there 454 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 1: has not been one case of death from an American 455 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: dog man, So that's great. They really kind of eradicated 456 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: that here, that's right. But elsewhere in the world, um, again, 457 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: catching rabies from being bitten by a dog is still 458 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: a real problem. As a matter of fact, the World 459 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: Health Organization called rabies among neglected diseases one of the 460 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: most most neglected. One of the most neglected among neglected diseases. 461 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 1: There's still thirty thousand to seventy thousand people who die 462 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: every year. It's around one every ten minutes from rabies 463 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: in the developing world. Like, think about that in the 464 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: United States, three people died in two thousand and six. 465 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: That was a bad year. Seventy thousand people as much 466 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: as seventy thousand people around the world are dying from rabies. 467 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: And these uh, the countries that have these really high 468 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: rabies mortality rates and humans are also the ones that 469 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: usually have um the least amount of money to pay 470 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: for inoculations and also even further have even less money 471 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,479 Speaker 1: to inoculate their dogs. So there's a huge push right 472 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: now among scientists be like, um, the rest of the world, 473 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: you guys need to pay to eradicate rabies at least 474 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: in the dog population around the world do something uh. 475 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: And and also when you have that rural areas, they're 476 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: not able to get to the clinics to receive those 477 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: regular inoculations. Yeah, because so Pasteur came up with the 478 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: rabies vaccine and basically his technique has been only slightly 479 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: altered over the years. Um, that's still a series of 480 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: shots in the United States or the West. The ones 481 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: that we have are five shots over the course of 482 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: a period of time. And again it's boosting your immunity slowly. 483 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: And it's a very similar thing in the UH in 484 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: what did the guy in the in the emails say 485 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: for the last the last listener mail instead of develo 486 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: lower income countries, in lower income countries, Um, they they 487 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: they have a schedule as well. It's not all getting 488 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: them at once. They have to boost your immunity, and 489 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: it may not be something like driving down the street 490 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: to the minute clinic to get this stuff done. You 491 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: may have to travel quite a ways and again miss 492 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: some work. So it's a big problem. Yeah, you mentioned 493 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: pasteurs brilliant idea. He used the it's called an attenuated 494 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: UH form of rabies. It's it's weakened but still alive 495 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: that he gathered from spinal cords of animals. These days, 496 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: they kind of do the same thing, but it is 497 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: not a live form of the virus. It is a 498 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: dead form of the virus. But like you said, the 499 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: same idea is that will give you this slowly and 500 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: before it reaches your spinal cord. Ideally, Um, ideally, if 501 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: you want to live, then you've built up the immunity. Hooray. Yeah. Uh, 502 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: there are some if you have some extra dough in 503 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: your pocket and want to help out some groups. There's 504 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: a couple of groups that are working to eradicate rabies 505 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: in low income countries, like Rita Rabies in the America's 506 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: and Raby Free Raby's Free World are both working to 507 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: eradicate rabies elsewhere. Yeah, and if you have been bitten 508 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: by a animal that you were worried about, um, I 509 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: would just immediately, you know, if I got bitten by 510 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: a squirrel or something, I would go to the doctor 511 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: and just get it checked out, obviously immediately. You don't 512 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: walk that one off. But here are some oh this 513 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: a little sting. Oh well, let's just see what happens. 514 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: Like the man who castrated himself and then sat down 515 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: to dinner in the nineteenth century. Remember we talked about him. 516 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: He read his Bible and then ate dinner and then 517 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: then went to the doctor. Right. Here are some of 518 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: the symptoms and humans humans human beings, not human beings. 519 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: I bury it you, rabbit, stomach pain, it's a change 520 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: in personality. Anxiety, I'm also biting at the air. Uh, 521 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: stomach pains, anxiety, restlessness, fever. Do you have any this? Nope, 522 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: Increased aggression, sore throat, excessive saliva, hallucinations, delirium. If that's 523 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: happening you, you are really like, should go to the doctor. Yeah, 524 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: coma sporadic pulse. At that point, you should have someone 525 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: take you to the doctor. And then something called hydrophobia, 526 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: which we should cover. That used to be a word 527 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: for rabies. Like you could say that person has rabies, 528 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: or you could say that person has hydrophobia, and it 529 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: used to mean the same thing. And what and why, 530 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: what's the deal with hydrophobia. It's a it's an intense, 531 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: unreasonable fear of water that develops from raby symptoms. Apparently, Yeah, 532 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: because I think drinking is uh, you have a very violent, 533 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: painful spasms and responses to trying to swallow water, and 534 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,959 Speaker 1: so you become fearful of water. That's crazy, which is 535 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: really really sad because you're drooling and you're producing tons 536 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: of saliva, but you also are just dying of thirst basically. 537 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: But if you do drink anything, the pain from your 538 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: throat muscles contracting is so bad that you will just 539 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: not drink. You would just rather not drink anything. And 540 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: apparently you become fearful of even the concept of drinking, 541 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: so you get scared of water. That's also because your 542 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: brain is deteriorating at a rapid rate. Man. But yeah, 543 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: this is not fun. This is not nice stuff. And 544 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: and again. For years and years and years and years 545 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: up until like the last few years, I think that 546 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: the common conventional wisdom was if you if rabies got 547 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,959 Speaker 1: to your central nervous system, bye bye, we might as 548 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: well old yellow you because you're not going to survive 549 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: and you're going to die one of the worst deaths 550 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: we could think of. And it wasn't until two thousand four. Yeah, Gina, 551 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: Gina guys, I thought you could say, Gina Gershawn. No, 552 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, that's what happened to her gina. Guys, 553 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: she was a girl, a teenager in Wisconsin who was 554 00:33:54,200 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: bitten by a bat, I think, and some doctors said, um, 555 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: you're a goner, but I'm not going to give up 556 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: on egina, No way, no how. Uh sleep now, baby, 557 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,879 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put you in a coma. And he put 558 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: her a medically induced coma and it was enough so 559 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: that her body was able to fight off the Raby's infection. 560 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: So she survived the Raby's infection without being inoculated previously, 561 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: and um, apparently without the inoculation being given to her 562 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 1: in a rapid enough time. So she literally survived a 563 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: Raby's infection. And now they call that procedure of the 564 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 1: Milwaukee protocol and it's saved five more people's lives. They 565 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: call it that. Yeah, And there was a study in 566 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: Peru and Uh in the Andies, a lot of Peruvian 567 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,800 Speaker 1: groups live near baths, they have to deal with bats. 568 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: Apparently some Peruvians have developed immunity to rabies and they 569 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,280 Speaker 1: documented I think about a dozen Peruvian who survived rabies 570 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: without any inoculation. So they're saying, Okay, this isn't a 571 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: fatal disease. We can work with that. But it's like 572 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,760 Speaker 1: really big Gangbusters news is it's almost like a natural 573 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,720 Speaker 1: inoculation that's happening though the same idea right there, getting 574 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: exposed to it gradually. I don't know. I don't know 575 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: if that was these people have been been before, or 576 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: if some sort of inoculation was passed down to them 577 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 1: through heredity, you know, Like I don't know, I'm not sure. 578 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 1: Like Grand Pappy was strong against the rabies, right, so 579 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 1: I am right, that's how the jeans work, all right. 580 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: From nineteen fifties to the roughly mid nineteen eighties. Uh, 581 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:42,800 Speaker 1: the horror stories were true. You did get like upwards 582 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 1: of twenty to twenty three shots in the belly and 583 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: the abdomen to treat rabies big needles. Right, Yeah, that 584 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: was not an old wives tale. It was a very 585 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: painful procedure. Um. I tried to find out why it 586 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: was done in the belly, and the only thing I 587 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: could find is completely unsubstantiated, but makes sense. Apparently, after 588 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: you start having these shots, um, somewhere between ten and twenty, 589 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: you start having really bad reactions and inflammation, and but 590 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 1: you need to give them in the same area. So 591 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 1: the belly was the largest part of the body that 592 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: you could still find a place to give the injection. 593 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: So I don't know if this true or not. That 594 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: makes sense. Uh, And we have to mention Ozzy Osborne. 595 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 1: But biting the head off a bat, Yeah, it wasn't 596 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: a live bat. You know. Well, there's different stories up 597 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: and down. It wasn't allow no, no no, no. He swears 598 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: it was alive because he felt the head moving in 599 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: his mouth. Oh, other people have said that it wasn't 600 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 1: a lot. The fan that threw the bat on stage 601 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 1: said it was dead. Azzis Ozzie right? He was like, 602 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: it was a lot. Uh, thank you, but that is 603 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: not an old white. He also bit the head off 604 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: the pigeon at a party, but um, he thought the 605 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 1: bat was a toy. Apparently did bite the bat and 606 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 1: did get those injections as a preventative measure, but he 607 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: did not ever contract rabies. Smart um. And this you 608 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: know who knows. It's also called a legend in some circles. 609 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: So but I think it really happened. It's documented. While 610 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,919 Speaker 1: I was researching this, I was like, wow, I am 611 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 1: not inoculated against rabies. Maybe I should just go ahead 612 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: and do that would be kind of neat to be like, 613 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: go ahead and bite me, raccoon. You're crazy, raccoon. I'm fine, 614 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: And then you could continue your ongoing battle with your squirrels, 615 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,879 Speaker 1: your sports deck squirrels. Now, the squirrels one I had 616 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: to take down the bird feeder you just gave up. 617 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: Now the kind of complex was like, you're not allowed 618 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: to have those. They attract squirrels. I'm like, yeah, no 619 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:45,760 Speaker 1: doubt they squirrels. I know. So I said, it's fine. 620 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: Do you got anything else? Nope, rabies. If you want 621 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 1: to know more about it, type that word into the 622 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 1: search bar how stuff works dot com are a B 623 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 1: y s And it will bring up this awesome article. 624 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,720 Speaker 1: I know, I know, I'm just teething. It correctly spelled 625 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 1: that way R A B I E S. That's right, 626 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: all right? Uh did you say that? Oh? And since 627 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: I misspelled something, it's time for a listener mail. I'm 628 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: gonna call this um cringe worthy experience. Oh God, why 629 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: did we ask him? Hey, guys, have been listening for 630 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 1: a couple of years, writing for the first time to 631 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 1: tell you a compelling story about the time my dad's 632 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,839 Speaker 1: eyeball fell out of his head. Perhaps I should say 633 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,919 Speaker 1: it was forced out of his head. It takes place 634 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: before I was born, but the way he tells it, 635 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,800 Speaker 1: it will make you hesitant to go water skiing. See, 636 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,240 Speaker 1: my dad was a mob and force serve in Las Vegas. 637 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: In particular, you wouldn't want to let your your body 638 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 1: or your face become parallel to the water surface when 639 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,399 Speaker 1: you're going around a bend in the river. So when 640 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 1: that happens, you could experience what happened to my dad. 641 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: His face skimmed to the water and the force of 642 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: that caused his eyeball to pop right out of his head. 643 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: It's stuff that and legends are made of. So there 644 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 1: my dad is and can excruciating pain treading water with 645 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 1: his eyeball in the palm of his hand. If you're 646 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 1: ever so lucky as to have your eyeball outside of 647 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 1: your head, hope that it's still attached, like my dad's 648 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: eyeball was. Cum as he got river water in his 649 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 1: eye socket. God, he forced it back into his eye 650 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 1: socket and there was nothing else he could do at 651 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 1: that crucial moment. As I understand that he never went 652 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: to see a doctor, and as I has been turned 653 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 1: at a fruity five degree angle and his name is 654 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 1: John Rambo is crazy. She said. He was relieved six 655 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 1: months later while the white static he was seeing slowly 656 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 1: started to return and he had normal vision once again. 657 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,839 Speaker 1: That's outcome bias. If I've ever seen it, cringe, if 658 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 1: you experienced any squeamish feelings, I consider it his story 659 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: well told. Yeah, well well told story that that is 660 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 1: from Lena or Lina in California for California boy, I 661 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,240 Speaker 1: don't know. Her dad has made us some tough stuff. 662 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 1: If he did not go to a doctor, he's like hero, 663 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 1: not our simo. Hia. Yeah, it's crazy. So uh did 664 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 1: somebody else wrote in and got me um about having 665 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: to get shots like up their nose? That one got 666 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 1: me too, So whoever wrote in with that one hats 667 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 1: off well. At least this guy or got a great 668 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 1: nickname out of old river water socket Jimmy the Mouthful. 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