1 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: H I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson. 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship and 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling. Ravalry, No, no, sibling. 4 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: Don't do that with your mouth, Vely, that's good. So 5 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: Bobby and Steve Lee are Today's guests, and they're hilarious. Yea, amazing. 6 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: They had us laughing most of the time, but then 7 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: it did also get serious. I lost it in this episode. 8 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: Oh god, it was beautiful. I mean it was really so. 9 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: It ran the gamut. I mean, because Bobby is an 10 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: insane person and he's gotten foot fetish and he's hysterical, 11 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: so is Steve. Steve is equally is funny and insane. 12 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: But when they had to sort of talk to each 13 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: other about what they loved about each other and what 14 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: they wished for each other, it was like I was crying. 15 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: That was beautiful. Well. I also got really emotional because 16 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: of the way that Bobby handles his situations in his 17 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: life that have happened. You know, he talks, he talks 18 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: very openly about being molested as a kid, but he 19 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: is funny about it, and he kind of you and 20 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: I just couldn't handle it. I just know, well, I mean, 21 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: obviously he's covering up a lot of pain. Yeah, it 22 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: just hit me, remember, and I really had a moment 23 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: with it. Will you guys judge for yourself, But how 24 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: much pain is Bobby Lee actually covering up? But I 25 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: really love them talking about their parents, how their parents met, 26 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: their relationship with their parents, San Diego. They grew up 27 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: in southern California, and they are both wrestlers, They both 28 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: do stand up comedy, both addicts, both addicts. They are 29 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: just so supportive of each other's careers. Especially Steve. He 30 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: just revered Bobby. It was really sweet. Anyway, you'll not 31 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: want to miss Steve's cowboy rap. My god. That's right. 32 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 1: So here's Bobby and Joy. Before we start this episode, 33 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: I just want to send Oliver and my condolences to 34 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: the Lee family after we interviewed them. Their father passed 35 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: away and so we are sending love and light. Okay. 36 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: So I do all like the heavy lifting and the 37 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: reading and then all of her free freestyles. That's kind 38 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: of how this is. That's kind of how this is. 39 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: That's like how you do yours. You don't research much. 40 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: Right now, I don't do really any because when I do, 41 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: I funk it out. Can I swear on this? Is it? Yeah? 42 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: Oh god? Yeah? So what I know about you guys 43 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: now is that what you're the older brother Bobby, you're 44 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: the younger brothers. You you basically followed in every single 45 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: one of his footsteps in terms of wrestling, because you 46 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: wrestled as well. And how do you know that? And 47 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: because she does research read so much? Did right? Oh? Big? Okay? 48 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: So you she knows so many things about you and 49 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: so and then you also then got into comedy. I 50 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: took a crack at it, and you had already gotten 51 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: into comedy. I was in comedy, and then he started 52 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: many many years later. And then he opened for me 53 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: in it. We don't have to get into that. I'm 54 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: going to bring it out, Okay. He opened for me 55 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: in Arizona the Temple Improv. He ate it so bad. No, 56 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: was this your first gig? No? He had been doing 57 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: open mics around l A. I choked so hard. Remember 58 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: your opening. It was like the worst dream you could have. 59 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: You remember your opening first. So firstly, it was a 60 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: fourth of July or New Year. It was one of 61 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: those shoes. It was packed like the the Pladium. The 62 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: upstairs was, everything was. It was at the Palladium. It's 63 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: the about right. The balcony was. The balcony was full. Okay, 64 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: it's a full house. I got a bloody nose walking 65 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: up to the stage because the altitude maybe or Arizona. 66 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: And then I was like, I try to like below 67 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: sea level, try there, okay. And so the one thing 68 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: he gave me pointers before I actually went on stage, 69 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: he goes, I love you, try your best. The one 70 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: thing I'm asking to do is engage with the crowd, 71 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: acknowledge them. And that's the main thing I didn't do. 72 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: So I walked up there and then I was like, 73 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: I had a cowboy bit? Where do the bit? I do? 74 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: I do a song where it's like a cowboy trying 75 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: to do like make it in the rap game. And 76 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: I was like, I had this thing called like forty 77 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: dollars bitter. So I was like, forty dollars better forty dollars, 78 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: you know, bit by bit bye, you know, forty dollars better, 79 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: forty dollars better forty I'll put your face in the manure. 80 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: My brain is the computer. You know you messed with 81 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: my style. I get my cousin couter, you know, like 82 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: I kept going, it was I did this whole rap. 83 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: I was just and then I like, I was like 84 00:05:54,120 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: forty dollars bitty, but there's no jokes. There's no joke 85 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: like for it. And then like I get done with 86 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: my wrap, you know, and then and then I like 87 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: look up and it was like like a sea of silence. 88 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: And I remember one lady in the front row like 89 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: she was crossing her legs like this, like oh no, oh, 90 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: now is it. That's why I feel like stand up 91 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 1: comedy is like when you get up there, there's gonna 92 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: be a moment as a stand up comedian that you're 93 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: going to choke, You're gonna bomb. People aren't necessarily going 94 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: to you know, you're gonna have an off day. But 95 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 1: let's go back for a second, because I want to 96 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: want to go back into the like like like birth, 97 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: what part of Korea were you born in? I love it? 98 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: But that was a good one, good job. But I 99 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: told you, you know, I already told you you already know, right, 100 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: And he brings it up on set, He'll say he's 101 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: North Korean. Talk about North Korea. You know what I mean, 102 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: and I'm always like, I'm not North Korean. I know 103 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: you get what you're talking about. You also like to 104 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: bring up my love life. I do. We're going to 105 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 1: talk about all of this. Yeah, but no, for real, 106 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: where were you guys born? I was born in San Diego, 107 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: and so was my brother San Diego sharp hospital, one hospital, sharps, 108 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: other brothers, other brothers and sisters. I'm still nervous. This 109 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: is the whole time. I'm right, you're doing steep, steep, steep. 110 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: Live in the moment. I know you're killing You're doing well. Okay, 111 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: So you were born in San Diego, just the two 112 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: of you. Now your parents? Oh yeah, okay, so parents parents. 113 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: I know they had a store. They were in the 114 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: garment industry, fashion, fashion, gown. But let's talk about were 115 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: they born in America? The parents? Okay, So my parents 116 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: were both born in Korea. They lived during the Korean 117 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: War as children, and they didn't meet in Korea. They 118 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: met in a nightclub in l A in the late sixties. 119 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: And the reason why they talked to each other, from 120 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: what my dad says, they were the only ones that 121 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: knew Korean in the club, like everyone else was white, 122 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: so they just kind of looked at my dad just 123 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: looked at the only Korean that was there and just 124 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: walked up during You know, that's not how I remember it. Okay, 125 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: So what was your recollection of this club? What is 126 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: he talking about? I don't know where my mom my 127 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: dad stocked my mom. Oh, the stalking would later, I 128 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: don't I didn't know about the man and the nightclub 129 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: and then dad stalked mom. And did mom feel the mom? 130 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: Mom left the state because of my dad. Yeah, because 131 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: he was like from Kimchi too, not kimchi, but he 132 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: stot he followed her to like the Midwest, somewhere Delaware, 133 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: wiscons Wisconsin to say it, okay, sorry, let me just say, 134 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: because you don't know the information, all right, you're just 135 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: making it up. No, I'm not making it up. There's 136 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: no Mom told me. Mom told me to, Mom told 137 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: me to. I'll is there was there was there not kimchi? 138 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: Was there? No kimchi? Fact, I don't know exactly. Let's 139 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: get Bobby's perception of mom and dad meeting and the 140 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: process up to when she actually said yes in like 141 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 1: a couple of sentences, and then we're gonna get Steve's perception. 142 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: Kate Hudson, May I say something, Kate Hudson. The nightclub thing, right, 143 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 1: could have been something that I made up to embellish 144 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: the story he exaggerated. So there probably was Kimchi exactly. 145 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 1: There probably was, all right, what happened? All right? So 146 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: I'm not specifically I might have made that upright, So 147 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 1: let's put that aside, and I know, and to your 148 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: fans and to everyone in the room, I apologize. And 149 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: I'm owning up to my character defect. Okay, that about you. 150 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm like the most forgiving person on the planet. 151 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 1: Thank you. All right. So I think family members or 152 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: whatever knew my mom and dad and they were introduced 153 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 1: in that way. Okay, But I do know for a 154 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: fact that my mom left the state because my dad, 155 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: he's an alcoholic. So they they met and they dated 156 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: a couple of times. My dad get got aggressive or 157 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: was a little She didn't like him. I know that, 158 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: and I know that she was like, I got to 159 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: get the fuck out of here. So they she moved 160 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: to Wisconsin. My dad bought steak Omaha. I don't know 161 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 1: what where the state comes from, but I know that's 162 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: where all, he was conceived Nebraska. Yeh, the connections, yeah yeah. 163 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 1: And he went found out where she lived in Wisconsin, 164 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: knocked on the door and he had I know. And 165 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: it wasn't at night though, was like probably during the day, 166 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: and he had a slab of steak because Koreans love meat. 167 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: And then she went off, this guy got me steak, right, 168 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: that's that's like a dowry. It's like a big thing. 169 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: It's a big thing for Korean's. I guess, you know. 170 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: And then I don't know. I don't know, but I'm 171 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: just assuming. And then I guess she went I got 172 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: to give him another shot. And then he chilled. He realized, 173 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: you know, I have to like get this lady to 174 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: marry me before I act myself, so that if he 175 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 1: put on a thing, he thinks for a couple of 176 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: maybe a year and a half, they get married. And 177 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: then he went crazy. Stevie, can't I got it, Stevie, 178 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: go no, I'm I I am agreeing with him. I 179 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: thought it was kim chi. I didn't know it was meat. 180 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: I didn't know that's what it was. I thought it 181 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: was He didn't go the meat too, so he didn't. 182 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: So I'm not lying, but I'm gonna call my mom. 183 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: I'm not lying about them. Or maybe maybe maybe your 184 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: dad brought kim chi instead of steak. No, he didn't. 185 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: Because my brother doesn't know what he's talking about. I 186 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: asked why. I like you. That's what I'm saying. But 187 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: it makes sense because he knew that he knew that 188 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: your dad brought her. Can I just say something real 189 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: quick before we even continue. I just need you, all right. 190 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: My brother is playing a game with you. I'm not 191 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: playing anything you are. I'm so scared right now. Man, 192 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: this is crazy. Hey Bobby, how do you do How 193 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: do you know? I'm not playing? This is crazy? You're 194 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: not playing because I know you. No, you don't. I know, 195 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: but not in this setting. I don't know you in 196 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: the setting, but I kind of know the foundation that 197 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: you you live by and the house they built, you know, 198 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: not on sand but on concrete, and I don't know what. 199 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: You don't have to stand up, you could sit down, 200 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: you don't have to stand I think it's authority. I 201 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: kind of I have a general idea and feeling about you, 202 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: and I think that you're a good dude. I am 203 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: thank you and I love you. I found this out later. 204 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 1: But my dad, like he drank a lot, he was 205 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: running three clothing stores. But he also had a very 206 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: very very bad temper. And I didn't find this out 207 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: till later. But like later he uh, I guess he 208 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: was like chasing my mom down the hallway and then 209 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: like she had a barricade the door. You know, I 210 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: mean this guy was he was a red zone like abusive, 211 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: like Genghis Khan. Was it abusive? Oh yeah, okay, yes, yes, yes, 212 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: So I didn't find that out. My mom has a tooth, 213 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: but I didn't know, like they didn't explain that to 214 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 1: me until later in life, like in my thirties or whatever. 215 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 1: She has a missing back replaced, knocked her out, knocked 216 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: her mouth out. Back in the day, back when there 217 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: was like you know, pioneers and people that lived in 218 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: the frontier or whatnot, you would get married, right, so 219 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: you wouldn't necessarily go, I'm marrying this woman because she's 220 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: hot and she's got a great personality. No, she has 221 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 1: the body to mow the plow with the cow or 222 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And and she's sturdy, right, 223 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 1: and those kind of things were mixed into it, and 224 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 1: my parents once they got married, it was like a 225 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: lifelong you know, no matter what matter. But that's what 226 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: we We had a conversation on set the other day, 227 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: and that's what you believe. You're like when you get married, 228 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: that's it. I'm so sick of all of these people 229 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: not being together. And I was like, well, what if 230 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: you're unhappy? What if you're falling out of love? And 231 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: you were like, that's bullshit. You stick together no matter what. 232 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: Are you married? Oh no, no, no, no, you have 233 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: a girlfriend. You have a girlfriend two years years. Okay, 234 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: So you were first born in San Diego? When did 235 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: your parents? Do they have a lot of sex? Did 236 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: they have a lot of sex prior to conceiving you? Yeah, 237 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: but I would assume it was not the kind of 238 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: sex that you and I partake in. Okay, yeah, I 239 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: think it's like stomach oh believe yeah, she's what I 240 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: don't I want to look at your eye? Right? No? Right? 241 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: And she laid on the stop squeeze it together? Right? 242 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: Can I just you know, have some space? No, squeeze together, 243 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: might smooth right? And then and then she's he's just 244 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: like like a rabbit, you know what I mean? Right, 245 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: it's one of those kind of things. Yeah, I don't 246 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: think it was like, you know, a candle, right, let's 247 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: put on some let's put on like roxy music avalon right. Yeah, 248 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: it's more like your mom probably had not enjoyable whatsoever 249 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: for I don't. I don't see it that way. I 250 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: think my dad's more of old school. Okay, do you 251 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: think like a prison? Do you think, and this goes 252 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: to the esoteric, do you think the way you were 253 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: conceived maybe sort of like dictates who you are now 254 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: as a person. I think my brother and I are 255 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: lucky in the sense that you know, when you're in 256 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: an environment like that, A lot of people, I mean, 257 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: my brother and I turned to drugs. That's why I've 258 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: been sober. My brother had been so first. Who was 259 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: into drugs first? The other thing that was interesting he 260 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: was he went to rehab, then you went to rehab. Yeah, 261 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: there's an interesting statistic. Kids who have older siblings who 262 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: smoke or drink are twice as likely to do basically 263 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: the same thing. So do you blame your brother for 264 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: those That's a real question though. Do you do you 265 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: find that because you look did you look up to Bobby? 266 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: You still do? Right? You still do. So, did you 267 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: see him going down this path and want to mimic him? 268 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe even unconscious subconsciously you know. No, No, although 269 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: because I remember going to the rehab and ocean side 270 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: and like going into the room and walking around the facility, 271 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: and we had family week at the McDonald Center, and 272 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: so I like I knew better, but I was in 273 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: such pain when I choked at the state tournament that 274 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: that was like the only thing I could like that 275 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: would bring me. My brother was rade a student. It 276 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 1: was a church dude. Yeah. He had Bible study message 277 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: like passages from the Bible, and I had, Yeah, I 278 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: had passages of the Bible in my room because our 279 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: house was haunted to bro like in Poway. It was 280 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: like Kevin Spacey's house in like that seven D. There 281 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: was just like burial ground like you lived. The house 282 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: was on like this plot of like an Indian bear 283 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,959 Speaker 1: or something. Because they try to possess me. Was they 284 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: oh yeah, did you see an entity? They held me down? 285 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: I was, I had Bible versus they held me down 286 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: and then Who's day? Who's day? The spirits? Did you 287 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: see them? No? But they held me that I couldn't 288 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: count move, but then then I say sleep, peralysis, sleep, 289 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: and then I heard yeah, and then the whispers, the whispers, interesting, 290 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: I can you know all about this? Right? Well, that's 291 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: the yeah that I did, I guess. So there's there's 292 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: a couple of reasons for that, Like there's the scientific 293 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: reason that people would tell you what it is, and 294 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: then there's like people who really believe in things like 295 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: you and I do. Yeah, there's another reason for that too, 296 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 1: which is a whole other podcasts. But wow, that's crazy. 297 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: I did experience it. But because I started doing drugs 298 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: at the age of eleven twelve, I was doing math 299 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: at thirteen, right, I went to many institutions before I 300 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 1: even went to high school. Really, you know, me just 301 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: lock up units. So he was supposed to wrestle his 302 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: senior year one hundred and twelve pounds. Yeah yeah, and 303 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: I couldn't do it, and so of the wrestling coach 304 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: like shoun, like he treated him like it was dead. Yeah. Yeah. 305 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, is it drug fueled paranoia? 306 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 1: Is it real? I mean I don't really know. So 307 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, I believe what I felt, and 308 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 1: I feel like I was possessed and I got up 309 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: from my bed and I ran to the swimming pool 310 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: because in a simple pool, and I jumped in the 311 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: pool to get myself out and it woke me up. Wow, right, 312 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: but I was literally like being posassed. And then I 313 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: because I asked my mom and later in life like 314 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, yeah, we had a it was 315 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: only on that side of the house, but they like 316 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: would park the car and then run to their master 317 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: bedroom like there was like something going on on that 318 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: side of the house. Man telling, did you guys have love? 319 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 1: I mean, did your parents love you? I mean, did 320 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 1: you feel love from your from your parents? You did? 321 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: My dad would stay in the sober you know, he 322 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: would look and go, I love you and then he 323 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: would like kiss you on the cheek or whatever. I mean, 324 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: obviously there is love. But my dad had untreated alcoholism 325 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: and he's still not sober. I mean, he he has 326 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: a stroke. So even in his state, he's still drinking anymore. No, 327 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: he can't drink. He can't drink now because my mom 328 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: controls everything, right, But if he hadn't had the stroke, 329 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: he would still be drinking at least beer or whatnot, 330 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: you know, But like, uh, all day, yeah, all day. Yeah, yeah, 331 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: my mom. I remember my mom would uh she would 332 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: set aside like five Miller Lite cans of beer and 333 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: then he like the bloody beers where he would mix 334 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: klamata with it, and she would like have that in 335 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: the freezer too to prep up his his like little Yeah, 336 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 1: she basically did. Yeah, it was you know, but the 337 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: way my brother and I survived, yes, through drugs and alcohol, 338 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: but we also survived through humor, right, I mean him 339 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: and I were jokesters, and I think in that aspect, 340 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 1: I guess it's a defense mechanism. But we didn't turn 341 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: out to be like thugs or like, you know, bad people. 342 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: We have a lot of issues. I mean I know 343 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: my brother inside and now, and we both have the 344 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: same kind of issues. But once I got sober, I 345 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 1: was able to go, all right, what do I want 346 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: to do with my life? And that's why when I 347 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: was twenty three, I tried open mic night at it. 348 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: So you started using when you were really young? Yeah, 349 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: like really young? Yeah? And were you old enough to 350 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,959 Speaker 1: understand that you were abusing something or yeah? I mean 351 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: I was molested I think when I was nine, and 352 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: then in Minnesota we did this thing called knees to 353 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: knees where all the kids that's in rehab, their parents 354 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: would come and everyone would come at one time, and 355 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 1: we'd be in like an auditorium and we'd form a 356 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: circle and in the middle of the circle were two 357 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: chairs and that like you would be obviously I'm impatient, 358 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: and you would go knees to knees with your dad, right, 359 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: And I told him, I go, and my brother was there, 360 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: and my mom was there, and I told me that, 361 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: you know, when I was nine, I was molested by 362 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: a guy with Down syndrome. And my dad goes, he 363 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: starts laughing, and then my brother started laughing. Then my 364 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 1: mom started laughing, and then I started laughing, and we 365 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: were crying laughing, right, And they thought that we were 366 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: like crazy people, right, But that's our way of coping 367 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 1: with right humor. But Bobby, did Jesus did you ever 368 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: have a moment though where you actually were able to 369 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: release it in a different way like cry it out? No, 370 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: I still haven't do you want to do that today? 371 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: I'm here, I don't want to do it right now, Okay, 372 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: I know, I'm just saying that it's there's there's no 373 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: you guys go now now I'm getting bad. I want 374 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: to get comeback up. That's fine. Can I get come 375 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: back up a little bit? Yeah? And I truly believe 376 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 1: this at the time, right, my brother failed to mention 377 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 1: that this guy had candy as well. Oh yeah, he 378 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: gave out a little Starburst and he also the dipping 379 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: candy fund, right, so he that's how we would lure 380 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: the kids right to the to the area with the 381 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: houses and all that stuff. Right, but the kids would 382 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: go one time through their life. I went there every 383 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 1: day for three summers. What does this mean? Because I 384 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: all I wanted was the candy, okay, right, So it's 385 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: like my thing wasn't about, oh, this guy's touching my penis. 386 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: I had addiction even back then, right like whatever, whatever, 387 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: I can't believe you're laughing, this is whatever. So whatever 388 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: the at that time, it was like candy was my 389 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: drug and so whatever I have to do to get 390 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: to my drug fix, So that all being molested wasn't 391 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: really hurtful to me. I don't think. I think it 392 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: was just something that I did. It's like when people 393 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: women are heroin at it and they have sex so 394 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: that then they can, you know, get money, do you 395 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: know what I remember. I think you're scratching the surface 396 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: of the depth molestation. I mean basically, you're saying molestation 397 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 1: was cool because you got I'm not saying I didn't 398 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: say that. Did I say cool? No? Cool with you? 399 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 1: You were cool at being molested because as long as 400 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 1: you got your fun dip, you were good. Listen there, 401 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: you listen to me, all right? You know like in 402 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: Leaving Neverland, did you see it? You see it? I 403 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: didn't see it. Did so when you should see it, 404 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 1: I will. But these issues didn't come up for these 405 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 1: two boys until they had children of their own, right, 406 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 1: So who knows? Maybe when I have children of my 407 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: own one day and may maybe that's one of the 408 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: reasons why I don't have I don't have children. Okay, 409 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: so you don't want kids? No, I love the little 410 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: guy people, but maybe that's part typically you've never you 411 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: don't want children, at least that's what we've talked about. 412 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: I understand. But what is the root of that? That's 413 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: what I mean. You don't feel like you could protect 414 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: your information. It's like you have this way of I said, well, 415 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: you you, I mean innate, innately. Maybe there's a fear 416 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: that you wouldn't be able to protect your children because 417 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: because you never felt protected I mean, or that you 418 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: aren't good enough to protect your own children. You know, 419 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: all of those kinds of things that if you I'm 420 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: not in an agreement. I just feel. I'm like, I 421 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 1: don't cry. Yes, you're going to cry. I feel so like, 422 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: what a terrible that's terrible. Yeah, it is terrible. She's 423 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: gonna try. Okay, thank you for you know, so, I 424 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: do feel what you're doing. Man, you're making I just 425 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: feel like, yeah, it's real good things out I know 426 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: it is. It is terrible, you know what. You're right? 427 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: It is terrible what you know? In her own house, man, 428 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: in her own freaking house. Man, this is supposed to 429 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: be fun. Here's what I think. It's bullshit because I've 430 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: been with you for two years now. We've talked about this. 431 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 1: I've said the same things that Katie has said. I 432 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: haven't cried. But you're just more accepting of the things 433 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: that she is saying. Is it because she's famous or 434 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: something that has nothing to do with that, because you 435 00:25:55,359 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: don't you're not tender? What Yeah, you're rough, She's tender 436 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: about it, Okay, And I believe her. I don't believe you. 437 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: When I look at her, I go, I believe look 438 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: at her eyes? Should I cry? You won't, You don't. 439 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: You don't have to do don't don't do it. It'll 440 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 1: make it weird. It'll make it weird. Okay, So what's 441 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: the age difference? So you're like us, so you're super close. 442 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Here's another reason why my brother 443 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: and I work is because in the Korean custom, the 444 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: older brother takes care of the siblings. It's just one 445 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: of those things. So you know, my brother, you know, 446 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: moved to l A. It's just the two of you, 447 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: it's the two of us, and he literally is like 448 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: having a kid. Yeah, I take care of him, you know, 449 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: like he doesn't ever have to worry. Do you give 450 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: him money? My brother money? Do you give your brother 451 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: and stuff like that? Yeah? Yeah, yeah? Do you? And 452 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: are you cool with that or do you ever? I don't. 453 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: I'm not proud of that, and and I'm that's I'm 454 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: at a point now where I'm like, dude, like there's 455 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: no reason for that. That's why, Like I'm trying to 456 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: do my own podcast and like I'm trying to get 457 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: my own sponsorships and I'm trying to do music. It's 458 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: like yeah, so, I mean, yeah, I'm not. I don't 459 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: take pride in that at all. No, do you make music? Yeah? 460 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: I do? Yeah, I do. Like what kind I did? 461 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: I record on like an eight track and I make 462 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: like beats. My brother, my brothers. I'll brack for him. 463 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: So he's in a band with you. I don't know 464 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 1: if you know David chow Is. He's the artist, right 465 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: and the money mark with the Beastie Boys, right, So 466 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: my brother's in a band with them. He's the lead singer. 467 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: Oh wow. And they toured what they did uh with? 468 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: They did shows with the word for the DJ what's 469 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: his name with the long hair? Oh? We did we open? Yeah, 470 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: we did a fashion week in New York. So weird 471 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: on tour and all that. Yeahyeah, I'm not on a 472 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 1: I mean they I mean, you know, Dave was funding, 473 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: but he's a great performer. When they're in l a's, 474 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 1: I like what you're doing. We're in the hiatus right now, 475 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: like everyone's kind of doing their own thing, you know. 476 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: So that's I like your tattoos. I just want to 477 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: say this to anyone watching right now that Stevie Lee 478 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: has some seriously my brother Actually, yeah, that's my art. 479 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: These are who who? Who did these tattoos? Are they 480 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: actually designed this? When I drew this one and then 481 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: just brought to and what about your e? What about 482 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: your E? Walk? Yeah it's yeah, it's a walk a tape. 483 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: Have you gotten Bobby Bobby's name yet? No? Yeah, I 484 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: have his career name here. Okay, so his initials Bobby 485 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: only and then so okay, and you have so now 486 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: this is all of her and I do something you 487 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: want to get a tattoo and we're trying to not 488 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: with the family, brothers, sister, situationist. But do you guys 489 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: have to nick names or anything? I like that with 490 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: each other. I mean, my nickname is Bertie, but Bertie, 491 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: I've got to figure that out. But what I know 492 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: about all over on you is that he talks about 493 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: you so positively. I knew that you guys had such 494 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: a great relationship just by working with him for two years. 495 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: Can I say another thing about him? Yes? Can I 496 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: say something another thing about him? That when I did 497 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: the pilot with him, right, he saved my life Because 498 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: I'm not really I mean, I've I've been on sitcoms before. 499 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: I've been in movies, but I don't really you know, 500 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: I to call myself an actor is crazy, right because 501 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: I'd never really taken a class. I don't really know 502 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: what I'm doing, right. So when I was doing the 503 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: pilot with him, right, Okay, no, I was agreeing something 504 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: I relate to that personally, I test well that personally 505 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: the wrong when you say you're not doing it the classes, 506 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: you're not really an actor. Like my insecure sy feels 507 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: the same way about me, right, Okay, I mean I 508 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: know enough to be in things, right, yes, but just 509 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: you know, to do like you know, I did this 510 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: movie with Ben Kingsley, right, and like I was, I 511 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: had lines with him and I was so petrified because 512 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: I could. I thought He's going to see right through 513 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: this fucking shit because I don't know what I'm saying, right. 514 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: But but Oliver, on the day of the pilot, he 515 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: pulled me aside and you got my head right, prol 516 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: you really did, because I go there was so many 517 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: it was a day where everyone showed well because I 518 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: related to him. And that's what I was saying before, 519 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: is I feel the same way my insecure self feels 520 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: the same way. I knew what he was going through 521 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: because I've been through the same ship that he was 522 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: going through. And now those things were like everyone's just 523 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: all the executive showed up and there was a thousand 524 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: people like behind video Villaine, right, and like, I, you know, 525 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: I'm scared because I hadn't worked in, like on a 526 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: show in four years or whatever. So in my head, 527 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't get fired, you know, right, And 528 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: then he just got my head wrapped around the idea 529 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: that it's okay to make mistakes. We're all human beings, right, 530 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: And then he shared some of his experiences with himself. Yeah, Okay, 531 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: is he being real? I think so? Maybe? Okay, yeah, 532 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: but it's hard to tell when Steve's being honest than 533 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: you like how he's emotive. I can't tell if he's 534 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: like telling the truth or you like it's a very 535 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: very aloof do you cry? I mean, do you get emotional? 536 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: He has two emotions, right, rage like you no, like, 537 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: do you ever see the movie being there? One of 538 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: my favorite but that's an act, Okay, I don't know what, 539 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: and but his other one is pure rage. And so 540 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: what you're seeing right now is the Chancey Gardner being there. 541 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: But what you don't don't see is the raging ball. 542 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: Where is that rage? Does that? Does that rage come 543 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: out on stage? It comes out in the weird you 544 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: know what. That's a good question. The music helps, yeah, 545 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: because it's an outlet, you know. But I mean on 546 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: the uber ride over here, we almost almost have to 547 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: pull over. Why we don't have to We're we're not 548 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: going to get into it, all right. But this also 549 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: brings me to something I know, which is you guys 550 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: have gotten into physical fights with each other? Do you 551 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: still get physical with each other? You know? We haven't 552 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,719 Speaker 1: had a physical altercation in like many years. It sounds 553 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: like Stevie was really the number he was, but you 554 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: weren't you the number two wrestler? I was ranked two 555 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: in nineteen in the nineties. Okay, so I set up 556 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: a mat right now, who who would take? He would 557 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: destroy you, He would destroy your proby this dude right here, dude, 558 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: let me say something. I have the same rage because 559 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: it's what my dad has. But through years of conditioning 560 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: and just practicing, I can talk myself out of those 561 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: situations pretty ninety nine point nine percent of the time. 562 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: If you get me into the red zone, which is 563 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: so difficult. I might stay in it for twenty minutes, right, 564 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: but my brother gets there quickly, you know, because he 565 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: doesn't have you know, I'm doing therapy now. I've been 566 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: working on better. Yeah, I once better a nice Do 567 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: you think that's because of your relationship that you went in? 568 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: Did you that you're there's a whole lot. I mean 569 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: I'm slowly telling him stuff, but yeah, mostly I'm trying to, 570 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: you know, work on my age, my red zone. Yeah, 571 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: and so I'm trying, but it's not I'm not It's 572 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: not a cure, overnight cure. Dude, are you at all 573 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: envious of his career and success? There's not an inkling 574 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: of like, god, well, I ask everyone possible. I'm like, 575 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: I kind of weird about you because Oliver was like 576 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: Oliver every podcast and every time people are like, no, 577 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 1: I'm so proud of my my sibling, and I'm like Oliver, see, 578 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: I am proud too. But in order but to deny 579 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: you're like that there's envy. No, you're like jeous obvious. 580 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: You know what. Now, there might be You're right, You're right, 581 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: there might be a little bit like I'm proud of you, 582 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 1: but like, fuck, I wish I could tell him, tell 583 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: them the Barry Cat's story. So you know Barry Kats is, 584 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 1: he's a manager. He's comedy manager, right, big, big comedy manager. Yeah, 585 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: big comedy manager. And I was sitting at the comedy 586 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,919 Speaker 1: store years ago, maybe twelve fourteen years ago, and we're 587 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: in the patio of the comedy store and we're sitting 588 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: next to each other. Barry Cat's big guy, big jewish man, 589 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: walks up, Bobby, how are you. I'm like, oh, good, 590 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: you know, and he and I go, this is my 591 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 1: brother Steve. And Barry Cats said something, this is the 592 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: worst thing he could ever Could I do it? Yes? 593 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: So he's like it was good, meaning you and then 594 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 1: he starts walking away and he goes, so what's it 595 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: like living in your brother's shadow? Whoa? So geez. He 596 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: didn't say it like that, but he said those words perception. 597 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 1: He said, try to do it in a joke. So 598 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: what's it like, you know? Living? You know that? And 599 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: then I looked at my brother's hands and this is 600 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: what I see the rage for the zero it like this, 601 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: Yeah that's Alison. It was too much? Does it hurt? 602 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry like that, but I had to do that. Yeah, 603 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 1: one of my questions I have is who's the louder sibling? 604 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: And this is what I'm I'm getting at. I think 605 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: you're the louder sibling. But then if it's that moment 606 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 1: where he goes one to a hundred in his rage, 607 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: that he might then be much louder than you ever are. Yeah, yeah, 608 00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 1: that's a that's a very fair assessment. Okay. And now 609 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: in your family, so was your mom loud too? Okay? 610 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: So they were both, So both your mom and your 611 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: dad were quite outspoken and expressive. Yeah, I mean my 612 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 1: mom is the funny one, although my dad's funny in 613 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: his own way. My mom is the type of woman 614 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: to be in a mall and go I pick a 615 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: nap now, and she'll just lay in the middle of 616 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: the mall and fall asleep like she doesn't know social 617 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: like right, and then like like you know how, like 618 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: you go to a mall there's like a pool, like 619 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 1: like a fountain. My will to take her shoes off 620 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: and just wait around in the film like that's not 621 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: what it's there for. It's not a pool for your feet, 622 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,359 Speaker 1: you know. So my mom is like that and then 623 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: she's also just very every girlfriend that's ever met My 624 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: mom goes, oh, that's where you get it from my 625 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: situation with Oliver and all my brothers. And excuse my 626 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: scabs on my feet, it's because I'm athletic and I 627 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:08,359 Speaker 1: wasn't looking at her. I was, yeah, but well because 628 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: there was like a stick model thing happening your your feet, 629 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:18,800 Speaker 1: you also your feet. Yeah, I have good feet. I 630 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: love your feet. But it's not that wasn't but that 631 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: was observed girls. Okay, so you would stare at their 632 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: feet a man? All right, man, this is oh so 633 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: you really do you have a feet? He has a feet. 634 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 1: He has a personal feet thing. Oh, he's like obsessed 635 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 1: with it. Yeah, like when he was younger, he would 636 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,240 Speaker 1: have girls and then they wouldn't they wouldn't mess around, 637 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: and then he would be like like repressed, and then 638 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 1: he would stay up all night just staring at their feet. 639 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 1: Oh you didn't know this. Would you like to? Would 640 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: you like to smell Kate's feet? Oliver, I don't don't 641 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: want to smell that. I'm not in that. This is crazy. 642 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 1: I'm not like that for you not to smell. I'm 643 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,720 Speaker 1: gonna smell guy, you would you like to like correct 644 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: the tops of her foot like nod? Force him to 645 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: do it? Will you just do it? I'm not I'm 646 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:26,359 Speaker 1: not gonna he wants he wants to. I'm gonna smell 647 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 1: white American flash. Yeah, okay, you got that. This is 648 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: so funny. Okay, wait, okay, wait who makes mom laugh 649 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:55,800 Speaker 1: the most? You? Are you sure? Yeah? He's accepting it. 650 00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: He's accepting What about Dad? Him? So? Okay? So so 651 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,320 Speaker 1: Bobby is the funny He's way more extroverted. Yeah, and 652 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 1: who do you think is the favorite child? No? No, 653 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 1: I'm getting a headshake from I tell you why. I 654 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 1: don't think. I think maybe I know Me and mom 655 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: were real close, man, me and mom? Of I know 656 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,439 Speaker 1: you guys are so close because you know what isn't 657 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: like I mean, it's in't like the sibling way, not 658 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 1: in like the reality like we know our parents all right, 659 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,319 Speaker 1: But have you been envious of love? Like? No, I've 660 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: never been. And also when my dad got sick, obviously 661 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 1: because of my schedule, you know, I couldn't help in 662 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 1: that way, you know, like be physically there. But I 663 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 1: sent my brother Arizona job, right, so my mother would 664 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: just go out there and stay in Arizona for months 665 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 1: at a time and do all those medical things that 666 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 1: my dad needed, like the ship, his ass and all that. 667 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 1: Did you have to do that? Well? I saw my 668 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 1: mom do it, right, you didn't do it, but I 669 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: lifted him up. Yeah, so you're kind of winning in 670 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 1: that to apartment and to like like dependability. Okay, how 671 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 1: do you guys feel about this statistic? Firstborns are generally 672 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 1: smarter than the younger siblings, having on average a three 673 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 1: point IQ advantage over the second siblings. No, no, I 674 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: feel about that. Yeah, I don't know he's smarter. I'm not. Well, 675 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 1: he's smart in his own way politically, he knows all 676 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 1: you know about like you know, the lizard aliens. See, 677 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 1: I got a better SAT score than him by ten points, 678 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 1: but if we if we did, I mean I got 679 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 1: a seven fifty, you got a seven sixty. No, first 680 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 1: of all, that's not what it was. No, it wasn't. Sorry, 681 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 1: that's like we basically spelt our name right. I got 682 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: an eight sixty, you got an eight seventy. So yeah, 683 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 1: that's not Actually you're still wrong. We're going to look 684 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 1: it up. You're still wrong. But but I think it's 685 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,320 Speaker 1: possible that if we took an IQ test, which we 686 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,280 Speaker 1: probably should, that I probably still would get ten points 687 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 1: higher than maybe you. I'm like with Bobby, I think 688 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 1: it's possible you might win. I'm I'm I'm deep. You 689 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,800 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Deep has nothing to do with 690 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 1: IQ depth. You have an IQ depth has nothing to 691 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 1: do with that. There's emotional intelligence, and there's I think 692 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 1: I have high emotional intelligence. Not I have a high 693 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 1: e Q an emotional quotion. There's an actual EQ and 694 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 1: I Q. That's your next statistic. Oh, in one of 695 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 1: your fights, have you ever made the other one bleed? Oh? 696 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 1: My god, so many times. Okay, I figured if you 697 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: could do any other job, what would it be. Just 698 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: just snap your fingers. You don't have to be skilled 699 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,320 Speaker 1: like I would love to be. Like just how my 700 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:43,320 Speaker 1: my my buddy Dave cho Is. Just do art, do 701 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 1: art shows and travel the world. Have exhibits that'd be amazing, 702 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 1: sound experience, you know, paint stuff and people will like 703 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,759 Speaker 1: really recognize it and appreciate it. Yeah, I'll buy that 704 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 1: for eight million doll you know, Like you know, it's 705 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: just like I just keep and then you just create, 706 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: You keep creating I love that. But that's crazy that 707 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 1: you can do that, Like that's what you're sort of doing. 708 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,800 Speaker 1: I know, it's a different template. I could draw. I 709 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 1: don't know how to painting past. Yeah, but David Chow 710 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 1: was like you were. He was David, who's this artist? 711 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 1: Was telling my brother send me paintings. How many paintings 712 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:21,400 Speaker 1: did you send them? Drawings? Hundreds? Right? Oh that was 713 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 1: like at the beginning. Yeah yeah, but little sketches. Yeah yeah, 714 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 1: he's got great sketches. Oh cool, I do it for fun. 715 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,320 Speaker 1: So your brother wants to be an artist if he 716 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,319 Speaker 1: could have any other job? What about you, Bobby? Well, 717 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,320 Speaker 1: I just got back in the Philippines and what we 718 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 1: did was we would take these little boats and go 719 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 1: to these because there's like nine thousand islands around the Philippines. 720 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 1: Was it amazing, fucking amazing. And we would go to 721 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,720 Speaker 1: an island and there would be like a group of people, 722 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,799 Speaker 1: like you know, people that live there and they would 723 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 1: make us food. And there was one island we went 724 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 1: to where Caly like was like, you know, this guy's 725 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 1: like was just on TV. He's like the best at 726 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 1: what they do and they basically they get food from 727 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,800 Speaker 1: you know, shrimp and all the local things rise and 728 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 1: they put it beautifully on a table and everyone there's 729 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,920 Speaker 1: no plates. You just eat it, you know what I mean. 730 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 1: I'll share like a communal kind of a thing. And 731 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 1: the best meal I've ever had, so fresh. And I 732 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 1: always thought to myself, I thought to myself, then I 733 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 1: wish I was on an island and I was able 734 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 1: to cook things for people and make my make it 735 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 1: my own, you know what I mean. Because this guy 736 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 1: was like the ship. So I always thought, maybe that 737 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 1: would be a good job. You could do that. Yeah, yeah, 738 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: childhood crush. There was a tape at my parents' house. 739 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,879 Speaker 1: There's a tape at my brother, cassette tape at my parents' house. 740 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,359 Speaker 1: Don't you dare say that right here and you could 741 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 1: hear my brother as a kid. Don't do it. Whatever 742 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,760 Speaker 1: you're thinking about doing, please don't say it. For forty 743 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 1: five minutes. This is what you hear. You push play. 744 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 1: I love you, Drew barry More. I love you, Drew 745 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,359 Speaker 1: barry More. I love you, d barry More. I love 746 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 1: you Drew barry More. I love you Drew Barrymore. I 747 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 1: love you d barry More. I love you, I love 748 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 1: you very More so Drew Barrymore, I think with him. Yeah, right, 749 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,440 Speaker 1: Can I just say this too, it's Drew Berry Moore 750 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,320 Speaker 1: because this is in the early eighties, so when she 751 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 1: was on Firestarter or et Drew Barrymore three. But okay, 752 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 1: so what was his childhood crush? Do you remember Nicole 753 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:27,800 Speaker 1: Eggert Oliver is projecting he loved that one? Right? You 754 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 1: didn't have Phoebe Kate's. You didn't know. I didn't have 755 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 1: I didn't have anything you had. No, you know, because 756 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 1: in the eighties I was drinking and doing drugs and 757 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff, and I was doing a 758 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 1: lot of gay things back then that I was just 759 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:45,719 Speaker 1: so just just lost. I didn't have the same childhood 760 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,360 Speaker 1: like you know, fantasies like Drew Barrymore. Mine was a 761 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 1: psych out of survival. Really. Okay. One of these things 762 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,320 Speaker 1: is I just think you guys are very open. So 763 00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 1: something moved the foot just put wrong. Okay, what physical 764 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,359 Speaker 1: feature are you most proud of of my own? Yeah? 765 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 1: Hard question, because I live in this body. I have 766 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,239 Speaker 1: no idea. Yeah, I ever looked at my body and went, 767 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 1: oh that's the thing. Never never, Yeah, these are the 768 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 1: things we got to work on. You what about what 769 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,360 Speaker 1: about the opposite of physical feature? You're just like, this 770 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 1: is just a disaster for me. Have you heard of 771 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,880 Speaker 1: a hegemonics or a hegeomony? Is that the right word? Hoo? Yeah? Where, No, 772 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 1: it's it's what the culture shows, what's a good looking 773 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 1: man is through media and guys like my brother and 774 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 1: I were never like, you know, especially Asian males in Hollywood, 775 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 1: we're never viewed as a sexual, you know, being you know, 776 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,320 Speaker 1: I think now they're slowly doing that, but back in 777 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,360 Speaker 1: the day, you have to imagine in the eighties, you know, 778 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,799 Speaker 1: if you were to say, who are your Asian role 779 00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:00,240 Speaker 1: models in media? Right, there's Bruce Lee and then there's 780 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 1: Pat Marita. Oh, long duck dog, long duck dong. I 781 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:07,360 Speaker 1: mean you have three options, right, So, you know, we 782 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 1: don't we have a weird you know, growing up in America. 783 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 1: In America, I was born here, I'm an American citizen, 784 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 1: and I have to say that, you know, my girlfriends 785 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,880 Speaker 1: have all been very attractive and sexy, you know, but 786 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 1: you know, but you know, I've never felt like I 787 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,920 Speaker 1: was ever like, you know, a good looking guy. I 788 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 1: know I'm cute, I know I test well you do. 789 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,880 Speaker 1: I do everything, I may, I test well, you know 790 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 1: the audience likes me. But I know that when I 791 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,759 Speaker 1: go on stage already I can feel the audience we 792 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,880 Speaker 1: like him. Even as an open micer, I could feel that. 793 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 1: That's because I'm sexually non threatening. Right. They always say 794 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 1: in stand up comedy, the worst, you know, the hardest 795 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 1: is when you're good looking. Okay, really quick, here's a 796 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,799 Speaker 1: more of a speed round. But we're gonna do Would 797 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 1: they choose? But you're going to answer this for your brother. 798 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:06,399 Speaker 1: This is Bobby Lee talking about his brother Steve Lee. 799 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 1: Would he choose? Well, I know the answer to this one. Now. 800 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 1: Would he choose the power of invisibility or the power 801 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,439 Speaker 1: to fight my brother? Would I think? Choose the power 802 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:20,320 Speaker 1: of invisibility? All right? Got one right? Okay? Would he 803 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 1: live in medieval times as a royal or in future 804 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 1: times as a cyborg? Future times is a sure cyborg? Yeah? 805 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:32,920 Speaker 1: Can I do him instead of Bobby? Right? I wouldn't 806 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 1: want to be infused as a robot into technology, So 807 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 1: you would go back in time in medieval times, and 808 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to be a robot, braveheart, Yeah, I 809 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:44,840 Speaker 1: wouldn't want to be a robot. That's all I know. 810 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:49,840 Speaker 1: Fantasy or science fiction. Fantasy, but you don't want to 811 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,320 Speaker 1: be a robots? I find no. But there's other aspects 812 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,239 Speaker 1: of science fiction. I was just going with the fucking 813 00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 1: science fiction. There's a lot of contradiction here, I agree. Yeah, okay. 814 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 1: Beach or mountains beach Yeah, nice. Beetles are rolling stones 815 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 1: beetles all day? Yeah, yes, Tupac or Biggie Tupac. I 816 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 1: like them about the same. Tupac to West Coast, Yeah yeah. 817 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 1: Infinite power or infinite wealth, infinite wealth. I guess they're 818 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 1: both relative. Yeah, okay, I guess you're right. Unicorn or mermaid, 819 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 1: to make love to to be? Yeah, Olive garden or 820 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:37,400 Speaker 1: red lobster. Olive garden, red lobster. You've have you? Have 821 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:43,360 Speaker 1: you been? Pasta? Pasta olive oil. I don't like their bread, alright, 822 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 1: they're known for their bread. Sports car escalade, any car. 823 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,359 Speaker 1: I'll take a Corolla at this point. Woodstock sixty nine 824 00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 1: or Woodstock ninety nine. I like that one. That's a 825 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:05,279 Speaker 1: good one. One sixty nine. Yeah, LSD S all right, Okay, 826 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 1: it's your brother's turn invisibility or power to fight invisibility. Okay, 827 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 1: what about this? What about invisibility or flying? Flying? Yep, 828 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,720 Speaker 1: you gotta say yes, yes, Bobby says yes, yes, Okay. 829 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,800 Speaker 1: Would Bobby like to live in a castle slash mansion 830 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:30,799 Speaker 1: or a high rise apartment mansion castle mansion? Yeah. Appetizer 831 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 1: or dessert. Oh, he's an appetizer. Yeah, all day every day. 832 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 1: What it is like eight, all day every day? Yeah. 833 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:44,640 Speaker 1: Beach or mountains? Beach Yeah? Yeah, you said, yeah, I'll 834 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,359 Speaker 1: never come to Colorado. I don't care how many times 835 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,239 Speaker 1: you invite me. You do not want to be a 836 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 1: part of the mountain. I'll never go. Yeah, I know 837 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,920 Speaker 1: that's that's a fact. I know it will never go 838 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,879 Speaker 1: to the mountains. So your summer, winter, summer or winter 839 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 1: for him? Yeah, summer. If he had to lose an 840 00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,120 Speaker 1: arm or a leg, would it be the arm or 841 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,560 Speaker 1: would it be the leg? It would be a leg. Yeah. 842 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,680 Speaker 1: Because he does stand up, he can he you know, 843 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:13,839 Speaker 1: he needs both hands. I think that's a good joke. 844 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,319 Speaker 1: By the way. Oh yeah, because he does stand up, 845 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:21,280 Speaker 1: he lose a leg. It is a good joke. Definite 846 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:26,880 Speaker 1: power or infinite wealth power? Ooh, I like that. You 847 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:33,240 Speaker 1: guys are different. That it's interesting. Weal Unicorner Mermaid, Murman, Mermaid, Murrhman. 848 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:38,200 Speaker 1: You jet ski or wave runner jet ski? Yeah, yeah, 849 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,719 Speaker 1: you do know. Jet ski you need to sit down 850 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,440 Speaker 1: and just push a button. Then the wave Runner's got 851 00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,560 Speaker 1: to stand up. And there's a whole situation that goes on. 852 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:54,320 Speaker 1: Headphones or boombox, headphones from him, sports car escalade, sports 853 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,600 Speaker 1: car yep. And then you know, what about you? For 854 00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:00,120 Speaker 1: Woodstock sixty nine or Woodstock ninety nine, he would do 855 00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,320 Speaker 1: sixty nine. Yeah, that's that question. I don't think anyone 856 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 1: would pick ninety nine. Hey, guys, who's the most sensitive? 857 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,360 Speaker 1: I think you're more sensitive than I am. Yeah, I 858 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 1: think I'm more sensitive. Ye. Yeah. But I want to 859 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,719 Speaker 1: say this. I mean, I know we're not ending right 860 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,200 Speaker 1: now at this very second, but I wanted to kind 861 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,600 Speaker 1: of express how I really do feel about my brother. 862 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:24,920 Speaker 1: Is that that I only honestly at the end of 863 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,560 Speaker 1: the day, Let's say I died in those chapters in 864 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:33,520 Speaker 1: my book, my brother would be half the book. You know. 865 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,840 Speaker 1: He is the only one, aside from my parents and 866 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:42,479 Speaker 1: my maybe Krlila, that I truly love from every sense 867 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:46,319 Speaker 1: of my being. Like for me, it's like I mean, 868 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:51,479 Speaker 1: God forbid anything happened to my brother, I honestly don't 869 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,919 Speaker 1: know how I would be able to even function in life. 870 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 1: I mean it would be like, you know, people could 871 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:01,479 Speaker 1: die and I would be hurt him specifically, it would 872 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:05,360 Speaker 1: be so you know, devastating that I just would not 873 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 1: be able to function. You know, I love him more 874 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,640 Speaker 1: than anything really, and that's why when we fight, it 875 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,000 Speaker 1: gets really emotional, it gets you know, combat of but 876 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,560 Speaker 1: and you know, at the end of the day, it's 877 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:20,680 Speaker 1: like he's a part of me. You know, he we have. 878 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,120 Speaker 1: We come from the same blood, and we come from 879 00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 1: the same you know, our parents and him. He's the 880 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:32,399 Speaker 1: longest person I've ever known. I knew him from I'll 881 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:39,240 Speaker 1: show you a photo. Let's not do this, and Steve, 882 00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,400 Speaker 1: you should start. You've got to prepare your side of 883 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,080 Speaker 1: this right now. So think about the beautiful things that 884 00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,480 Speaker 1: you're going to say to Bobby, because he just when 885 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:51,400 Speaker 1: he was born. And this is me looking at my 886 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:55,280 Speaker 1: brother's hand right going you know, all I ever wanted 887 00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,719 Speaker 1: was all And then that's me and my brother. That's 888 00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,480 Speaker 1: me and Steve, you know, right Steve right here see 889 00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,960 Speaker 1: me holding my little brother. Steve. You know, me and Steve, 890 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,600 Speaker 1: like he's my best friend. He's uh, this is high school, 891 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,759 Speaker 1: you know. I know what I'm wearing my head, but 892 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,000 Speaker 1: like you know what I mean. But so my my 893 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 1: brother and I he is from a part of my life, 894 00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:24,920 Speaker 1: you know, and you know I will always at the 895 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:29,520 Speaker 1: end of the day, we'll take care of him. There's 896 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:35,000 Speaker 1: he'll never struggle, He'll never you know. That's what it is. 897 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:37,759 Speaker 1: You know, I mean, that's what it is. Go ahead, 898 00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,719 Speaker 1: go ahead that I mean no, to be honest, like 899 00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,800 Speaker 1: I wish my sister would say something like that to me. 900 00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,120 Speaker 1: Yeah you want me to, I can totally do that, 901 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,839 Speaker 1: but I just I'm too emotional. I'll just start crying. Okay, 902 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:53,719 Speaker 1: you could start it, you could start it off, but 903 00:53:53,840 --> 00:54:00,360 Speaker 1: you have to finish. Okay, Well, I'll just hate it 904 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,799 Speaker 1: about Oliver in the mok you can add it. And right, 905 00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,839 Speaker 1: I feel that I feel the same way, although I'm 906 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:13,279 Speaker 1: not good at uh expressing you know, like my how 907 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,360 Speaker 1: much you mean to me? You know, And I know 908 00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:20,399 Speaker 1: I've like in a way I've you know, just kind 909 00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:24,480 Speaker 1: of I haven't been in full gratitude many you know, 910 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:28,080 Speaker 1: for some years as far as how like, how how 911 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,279 Speaker 1: good you are to me, and and like I thought, 912 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:32,800 Speaker 1: you know, through all this thing, I'm not going to 913 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,480 Speaker 1: bring his name up, but I thought that you like 914 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,600 Speaker 1: abandoned me, you know, like as far as like when 915 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,480 Speaker 1: you're in the Philippines. But then when I realized that 916 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,320 Speaker 1: you were actually like fighting for me, I was like 917 00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:46,279 Speaker 1: it really like I it like I kind of broke 918 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,399 Speaker 1: up then, like as far as like, oh my brother, 919 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,840 Speaker 1: like I thought that he like didn't have my best intentions. 920 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,160 Speaker 1: I don't want to go into the story, but like 921 00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,480 Speaker 1: the whole time he was like fighting for me, like 922 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,040 Speaker 1: so I could get my channel back and so I 923 00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:04,800 Speaker 1: could have you know what I'm saying. So but like 924 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 1: I but then but then I realized, like why did 925 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,080 Speaker 1: I question that, you know? And so it was it's 926 00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:12,640 Speaker 1: one of those things as far as like why would 927 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,000 Speaker 1: I question like this is blood. You can't fuck with blood, 928 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:20,680 Speaker 1: you know, like where so you know him, He's the 929 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:25,759 Speaker 1: best brother I could have ever asked for. And I 930 00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:27,680 Speaker 1: want to get to a point. I appreciate you you 931 00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 1: helping me throughout the years, but like I want to 932 00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,279 Speaker 1: get to a point where you know, like as far 933 00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,360 Speaker 1: as monetarily, I could be self supporting as well, like 934 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,520 Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not trying to, you know, live off 935 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,640 Speaker 1: his dime. You know. That's why I'm like trying to 936 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,959 Speaker 1: get these things going because in a way I feel 937 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:48,239 Speaker 1: bad because he's catering towards my parents, and in a 938 00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:53,600 Speaker 1: way I feel shame because I'm unable to provide that, 939 00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:59,359 Speaker 1: but you know, he's doing it. So what I'm trying 940 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,000 Speaker 1: to say is I, yeah, he's He's probably the best 941 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:06,320 Speaker 1: brother anyone could ask for. And uh, I know we 942 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,040 Speaker 1: fight a lot, but at the end of the day, 943 00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,719 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, I mean I have a you know, 944 00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:15,040 Speaker 1: this is like he's you know that blood is blood. 945 00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,759 Speaker 1: You know, you can't you know, like, no matter who 946 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,520 Speaker 1: you meet throughout your life span, you can never replace that. 947 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,920 Speaker 1: You especially this, you can't replace. There's you know, I 948 00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,040 Speaker 1: don't care if it's your best friend. It's like blood 949 00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:32,880 Speaker 1: is It's just there's a certain power and bond to that. 950 00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:38,200 Speaker 1: That's it's it's everlasting. You can't at least that's the 951 00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,960 Speaker 1: way we were raised. So yeah, yeah, if you were 952 00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:46,960 Speaker 1: to give advice to say brothers that didn't or weren't 953 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:52,960 Speaker 1: talking or weren't connecting or like, what would that look like, 954 00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,560 Speaker 1: what would that be. I would just say, man like, 955 00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,560 Speaker 1: life is too short. We don't know how much time 956 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,680 Speaker 1: we have on this planet or tomorrow's never promised, so 957 00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,480 Speaker 1: any day above ground is a good day. You should 958 00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:08,600 Speaker 1: really cherish the one. I know. This one thing you 959 00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:10,759 Speaker 1: don't do is you don't hold resent You don't hold 960 00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,960 Speaker 1: on to resentment. Resentment is the thing that eats its 961 00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:18,800 Speaker 1: own container. Like resentment, resentment, it's kind of like you're 962 00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,960 Speaker 1: you're drinking poison expecting the other person to die from 963 00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,520 Speaker 1: what you're doing. So that's the main thing that keeps 964 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:29,680 Speaker 1: families apart. This is just my opinion, is resentment. And 965 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,680 Speaker 1: you know that could be coupled with envy and jealousy 966 00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,840 Speaker 1: and all these other aspects, but the main thing I 967 00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,800 Speaker 1: think is resentment. I would say to life is short, 968 00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,720 Speaker 1: and you have to swallow your pride. You look at 969 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,680 Speaker 1: your own inventory you're part in it, and then and 970 00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,920 Speaker 1: then make up because life is short. You should. If 971 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:55,560 Speaker 1: it's family, there's no reason why you can't be in 972 00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:59,320 Speaker 1: touch unless that person murdered your kids or you know 973 00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:05,200 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, it's something horrific that's unforgivable. But Bobby, 974 00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:09,480 Speaker 1: it was going so well, I'm sorry. No, you're right 975 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:13,320 Speaker 1: that resentment is huge. It's huge. It will destroy you, 976 00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,840 Speaker 1: and it's and it's we will won't end up drinking 977 00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:19,480 Speaker 1: and doing drugs if we don't deal with resentment. That's 978 00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,440 Speaker 1: the thing that is our downfall. We're right. Essentially, the 979 00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:26,680 Speaker 1: resentment is suicidal. Yeah, and attempting to it's a version 980 00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:30,160 Speaker 1: of contempt. That was really beautiful you guys. I think 981 00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,080 Speaker 1: you said gratitude, like I think it's just such a 982 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:36,600 Speaker 1: great thing to say, Oh, yeah, did that feel good 983 00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:40,880 Speaker 1: to hear he did it? It felt good? Yeah, because 984 00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,360 Speaker 1: he doesn't. We don't, don't, you know, don't have that 985 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,720 Speaker 1: kind of I think, yeah, that's thank you for doing that, 986 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:51,040 Speaker 1: because we haven't had that kind of yeah, like that 987 00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,880 Speaker 1: interaction in years. It's not it's not an easy thing 988 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:58,320 Speaker 1: to do, noial and because there's there's also so much emotion. 989 00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they say, and I could into 990 00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,280 Speaker 1: all the stats and stuff, but like we've spent the 991 00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,360 Speaker 1: most time with each other than anybody in our family. 992 00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,640 Speaker 1: I mean, that's just what it is. So you guys 993 00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,600 Speaker 1: are super super close and well, no, but most siblings, 994 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,720 Speaker 1: that is just most siblings. So you guys spent more 995 00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:18,920 Speaker 1: time with each other than anybody else, your partners or 996 00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:23,720 Speaker 1: any I mean, like anybody else. And and so when 997 00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:27,439 Speaker 1: you start to actually communicate to that person, like from 998 00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:32,400 Speaker 1: a real vulnerable place, you're like, oh my god, it's 999 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,760 Speaker 1: beautiful that you can even say those things. And I'm 1000 00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:39,160 Speaker 1: just learning to honestly, because it's not easy for me 1001 00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,640 Speaker 1: to do what you guys did, to sit across from 1002 00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,960 Speaker 1: Kate and just say that openly and honestly without fear, 1003 00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,080 Speaker 1: you know, And that's his personal fear of judgment and 1004 00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,960 Speaker 1: fear of Look now I'm freaking out later on the 1005 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,760 Speaker 1: net and be like, you did that at Kate Hudson's house, 1006 00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:59,360 Speaker 1: you know, the one that was almost famous Kate Hudson. 1007 01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:08,600 Speaker 1: Now that that's snakeskin. Yeah, that like that whole thing 1008 01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,920 Speaker 1: you did that, Steve, What did you do? Yeah? Then 1009 01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,439 Speaker 1: my head's gonna be it's gonna be like a hamster wheel, 1010 01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,600 Speaker 1: like why did you do it? Why did you? Fine? 1011 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,400 Speaker 1: You're great? All right? We like to go nineties hip 1012 01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:23,000 Speaker 1: hop style? Are we freestyling for real? Right now? Oh? Yeah, 1013 01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:27,200 Speaker 1: I'll do all right? Do you want a nose vibe? 1014 01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:35,200 Speaker 1: Here we go waiting for the beat well, Kogi is 1015 01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:41,240 Speaker 1: my meat street meat fleet week, screwing guys with big feet. 1016 01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to be cool, but I'm the man 1017 01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:46,600 Speaker 1: who's going to crossroads school. I learned to educate. I 1018 01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,000 Speaker 1: go on a few dates and then I found one 1019 01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:52,000 Speaker 1: girl who I called my mate, and little Ray is here. 1020 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,080 Speaker 1: I got the sharp spear coming through. You need to 1021 01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,320 Speaker 1: open up your ear because I got a lot of 1022 01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:01,680 Speaker 1: fear growing through my heart. Yes, I strite start to depart, 1023 01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,840 Speaker 1: then I pull apart the parts like a god dang motor. 1024 01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:07,960 Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck. I got the straight soldier 1025 01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:11,360 Speaker 1: type of mentality in my straight brain, insaying in the 1026 01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,800 Speaker 1: brain like I'm Cypress Hill. When I got the feel 1027 01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,240 Speaker 1: and I need to chill and I need to not kill. 1028 01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,840 Speaker 1: I got the rage streaming through my eyebrows. I keep 1029 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,120 Speaker 1: going because I'm headed towards the clouds. When I look 1030 01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,360 Speaker 1: up to this guy, then I look up to the ground, 1031 01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,880 Speaker 1: heaven or hell. Yes, I am a damn clown, profound 1032 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,520 Speaker 1: ricochetan thoughts in my mind state. I'm not claiming that 1033 01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:35,360 Speaker 1: I'm great, but I'm hanging out with Kate Hudson and Allie. 1034 01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,840 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah why do you cover 1035 01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:45,240 Speaker 1: your eyes? Oh? Oh that was fun. We have one 1036 01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,640 Speaker 1: more question because there's a charity aspect to your fil 1037 01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,040 Speaker 1: So Kate and I have a ten thousand dollars bet. 1038 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:53,240 Speaker 1: Throughout this season we are asking our guests and you 1039 01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,960 Speaker 1: have to answer honestly. No feelings are going to get hurt. 1040 01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:59,160 Speaker 1: But after and and and the winner the ten thousand 1041 01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,360 Speaker 1: dollars will go to the charity of our choice of 1042 01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:05,439 Speaker 1: one of ours choices. So after this podcast throw away 1043 01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:08,880 Speaker 1: all you knowing me and everything else, who do you 1044 01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:15,920 Speaker 1: like better? Myself or Kate? Just relate to just generally 1045 01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:23,160 Speaker 1: vibe like you know I honestly, Kate, really yeah? Yeah? 1046 01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:29,200 Speaker 1: Can I tell you it's fine saying there's no hard 1047 01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:32,040 Speaker 1: feeling it was my feet. It's not just no, it 1048 01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,360 Speaker 1: wasn't just the feat, right, It's just that, you know, 1049 01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,360 Speaker 1: she seems like somebody that I can trust more, Okay, 1050 01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:46,080 Speaker 1: somebody that like, you know, like, like, here's what I think. 1051 01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:50,919 Speaker 1: Kate has projected a wonderful motherly figure. And I think 1052 01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,960 Speaker 1: that you have found a mother figure in her if 1053 01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,360 Speaker 1: you wanted to make love to her feet. I don't 1054 01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,400 Speaker 1: know about likeness, but I have to be honest I 1055 01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,600 Speaker 1: fear you guys both. Okay, but who do you like 1056 01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:05,800 Speaker 1: the most? Both of you? Guys? It's hard. You don't 1057 01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:09,920 Speaker 1: you're there's there's no there's there's there's no hurting feelings either. 1058 01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,080 Speaker 1: It's just it's just an over gotta be hous. I 1059 01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:15,240 Speaker 1: feel a little bit more comfortable with all of our Yeah, 1060 01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:20,000 Speaker 1: but but it's because I because I fear you so much, 1061 01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:23,400 Speaker 1: because I'm like, I can't go down step. He's a 1062 01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:26,800 Speaker 1: star too, but I'm not. Yes, yeah, but he's a 1063 01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:30,320 Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah, but don't doubt Yeah. 1064 01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:32,160 Speaker 1: I guess he gets sensitive. So I just want to 1065 01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:36,360 Speaker 1: say something I loved every hour we sat here together. 1066 01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:43,800 Speaker 1: Love meaning you, I love you, right. Yeah. We're bringing 1067 01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:48,960 Speaker 1: in the family psychologists, so you guys can sling. We 1068 01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,680 Speaker 1: can do I'll read you. Yeah. You know, I think 1069 01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,520 Speaker 1: my brother and I you know, I think it maybe 1070 01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:58,600 Speaker 1: is a cultural thing being Korean or whatever, but we're 1071 01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,120 Speaker 1: very real. I mean, we we don't really. If we 1072 01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:05,080 Speaker 1: feel it, we'll say it. And so you know, everything 1073 01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:08,720 Speaker 1: we've talked about is stuff that we feel and we've 1074 01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:12,120 Speaker 1: talked about before. We're not uncomfortable pop. Yeah, I think 1075 01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:15,400 Speaker 1: that being with you two really was very comfortable because 1076 01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,680 Speaker 1: we were a little nervous about how that was gonna go. 1077 01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:22,680 Speaker 1: But it went splendidly and I really enjoyed myself. You know, Yeah, 1078 01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:25,400 Speaker 1: I have to mean I was nervous at first, but 1079 01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:29,080 Speaker 1: I'm not nervous right now. Yeah you're not. Yeah, yeah, 1080 01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:32,480 Speaker 1: I was chilling freestyle and at the end, thank you God. 1081 01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:39,600 Speaker 1: Sibling Revelry is executive Gruce by Kate Hudson, Alira Hudson, 1082 01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:43,440 Speaker 1: and sim Sarna. Supervising producer is Alison Presnik. Editor is 1083 01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:48,720 Speaker 1: Josh Wendish. Music by Mark Hudson aka Uncle Mark.