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Speaker 1: Los Angeles. This is the Dan Patrick Show. Good morning, everybody,

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Speaker 1: how are you? I hope everybody had an awesome Christmas.

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Speaker 1: I am your host today, Jason McIntyre joined by Ryan Hollands,

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Speaker 1: the doorway here in the studio. Ryan, good morning, how

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Speaker 1: was your Christmas. It was good. Are you Are you

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Speaker 1: Six six to eleven, seven seven. Geez, Ryan Hollands. For now,

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Speaker 1: he's a former LAA Clipper. I think we'll probably start

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Speaker 1: talking about Lakers Clippers. Hope everybody had a phenomenal Christmas.

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Speaker 1: We are in for Dan Patrick and the Danet's here

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Speaker 1: on a December twenty sixth where the top story in sports.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Uh is the thirty four soon to be thirty

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Speaker 1: five year old MVP leader. Perhaps I do believe he is.

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Speaker 1: But the Lakers drop a brutal one last night, led

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Speaker 1: by seven with about six minutes left against the Clippers,

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Speaker 1: and I just want to dive in. Ryan. Let's start

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Speaker 1: with your thoughts on the game, what it didn't mean? Uh,

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Speaker 1: this is the one year anniversary, as we were just

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Speaker 1: the Golden State Warriors. Okay, missed a month. Now Lebron

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Speaker 1: comes out of this game with the nagging injury. Ryan

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Speaker 1: state of the Lakers. Are you concerned they've lost four straight? No,

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Speaker 1: they don't concern me. In fact, I would say last night,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what, but wow, the Lakers have some strides.

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Speaker 1: I say that why they have to learn coach Frank

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Speaker 1: the defense. I hadn't seen Lebron James defend since Miami, okay,

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Speaker 1: Lebron James, it's your turn to go. And last night,

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Speaker 1: Christmas Day. You're not getting the whole playbook. You're not

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Speaker 1: Vogel doesn't have that relationship yet. It would have to

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Speaker 1: Christmas Day, you go, whoa Lebron? I expected playoff Lebron

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Speaker 1: I cannot overreact to Lebron James, not at the ending

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Speaker 1: let's be honest. I mean, you played in the league.

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Speaker 1: How much do you care? Are we ever gonna remember, Hey,

423
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Speaker 1: Christmas Day? Do you remember when the Lakers folded in

424
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: the Clippers won that game? No, we're gonna remember what

425
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 1: happens in their playoff series. And that's a massive problem

426
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Speaker 1: for the league right now. No, I hear you, and

427
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 1: I'm all in on the fact that, like, did you

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Speaker 1: win in the playoff? Did you make it to the finals?

429
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Speaker 1: Did you achieve your goals? Who are you? Because now

430
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Speaker 1: I see who you really are. In that case, we

431
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Speaker 1: would say, you know, Harden's the greatest score and you'd

432
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Speaker 1: be you'd be on the Mount Rushmore right now, That's

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Speaker 1: that's all we were saying. If that's all we were

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Speaker 1: saying now. Ultimately, as a former player, guy who played

435
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Speaker 1: on Christmas Day games to two, in fact, I would

436
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 1: say that it means a lot because now I Ammano

437
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Speaker 1: Imano and I want to give you my best, and

438
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 1: it's on a national stage. You can feel the environment

439
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 1: is different, the media is different. Your jersey's even coming different.

440
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 1: You've got different socks in the locker room, Nike or Adidas,

441
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Speaker 1: whoever sending you different shoes. It's time to show out

442
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 1: now for the only guy. Maybe help me. Forgive me.

443
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Speaker 1: If there's another that I can say can cruise on

444
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Speaker 1: Christmas Day and I'm not gonna lose my wits about

445
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 1: it is Lebron James because he's done it for so

446
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Speaker 1: darned long. Yeah, listen, coming out of the game yesterday,

447
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, I'm again. We have some people over for Christmas,

448
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 1: and Anthony Davis is shooting face to wave sixteen footers

449
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Speaker 1: when he's got like a four inch height advantage on

450
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: Harold and they've got why is he fading away? It's shot.

451
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: That's a shot, though, Jay, I know shop, but dude,

452
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: come on, stop with the fadeawayte Can you get good

453
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Speaker 1: to the line like you did for forty three throws

454
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Speaker 1: against Memphis. That's where you can argue and say, or

455
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: you can bring up the point, and I want you

456
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Speaker 1: to hear this. The only player on the court, well,

457
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Speaker 1: we'll say two. One was a lot more, is a

458
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Speaker 1: lot more dominant the other. When talking Lakers Clippers, there's

459
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Speaker 1: only two. We'll say one and a half. Guys with

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Speaker 1: a go to move that will work in the fourth

461
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Speaker 1: quarter Kawhi Leonard. And we want to say Lou Williams.

462
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Speaker 1: Lou Williams, when the money's on the line, he's gonna

463
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Speaker 1: drive left. They either get fouled or pull up and

464
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Speaker 1: hit a jumper. Kawhi Leonard is gonna play with the basketball,

465
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Speaker 1: dribble through his legs a couple of times, drive to

466
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Speaker 1: the elbow, put his shoulder in your chest, pull up

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Speaker 1: and hit a bucket. Lebron James does not have a

468
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Speaker 1: go to move and Davis doesn't have a go to move.

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Speaker 1: So I played, I compete against Lebron. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to say that the trust, but tell me in what

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Speaker 1: does Lebron's go to move is put his shoulder down

472
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 1: and he's a bull charging that's not a move. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna foul him. That's not a move. Driving to the

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Speaker 1: basket's not a move. Show me how many times you

475
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Speaker 1: drove to the basket and won the game. We're talking

476
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Speaker 1: about if there's a game there's two seconds on Lebron

477
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 1: totally collapse and try to make him pass as he

478
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Speaker 1: did to KCP, and they say, KCP will have you

479
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Speaker 1: beat us. Um, Lebron doesn't have a go to move

480
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: seems a little harsh, Jason, you're ridiculous. He doesn't have

481
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Speaker 1: a go to move. You tell me, you tell, Okay,

482
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Speaker 1: what was Michael Jordan's go to move? What was signature?

483
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Speaker 1: I'm basically his io, his fade away that Kobe copy fair,

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Speaker 1: all right, and you helped my second point. Kobe, we knew,

485
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Speaker 1: we knew what you were going You knew what you're

486
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Speaker 1: going to get when it counted. Kawhi Leonard isn't showing

487
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 1: us you know what you're going to get when it counts.

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00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 1: Lebron James still doesn't have that. Now. Lebron James is

489
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Speaker 1: still my greatest of all time. So this is not

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Speaker 1: a Lebron Slanders segment. This is not a Lebron segment.

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Speaker 1: Gavin's but the show. Gavin. You need to make a

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Speaker 1: note here. Lebron officially number one all time. He's number

493
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Speaker 1: one all time, I'm sorry, Michael, I love you. Michael

494
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Speaker 1: will break that down earlier. We will have a whole

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Speaker 1: another two two segments on him, you know, but quickly.

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Speaker 1: You know how insecure Michael Jordan is about this Lebron

497
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Speaker 1: overtaking him, that he signed off on this huge documentary

498
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: that's going to be released. Guess what in June, right right,

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Speaker 1: probably after the NBA Finals, after Lebron wins under his

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Speaker 1: fourth ring with his third team, and I'm assuming Lebron

501
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 1: will get MVP, maybe Anthony Davis, and then the discussion

502
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: will be Lebron, you want to know what's so funny

503
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: or Michael again, you want to know on a side,

504
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: know what's so funny about the Michael documentary coming on

505
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: coming out. I was a rookie in rookie transition back

506
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Speaker 1: in two thousand and six in the NBA, and myself,

507
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: Adam Morrison, LaMarcus Aldredge, oh my god, you're on that chart.

508
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 1: We had a lot of second round gyms on that squad.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to the fiftieth pick in that draft anyways,

510
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: But we saw a teaser, we saw a teaser for

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Speaker 1: that Michael Jordan Bulls thing, and we were like blown

512
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Speaker 1: away in two thousand and six, and I was like

513
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 1: telling people about it and I just sound like an

514
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: idiot because it never came around. But now we're just

515
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Speaker 1: now hearing about it. Yeah, why do you think he

516
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 1: waits so two thousand and six, two thousand and now

517
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: you probably have like he's insecure about it. I mean,

518
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Speaker 1: it's one of the best of all. Charles Barkley is

519
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: so insecure. Why do you think he's been taking craps

520
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: on the Warriors for the last five years old? There

521
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: is finesse jump shooting team. They're not that great. He's

522
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Speaker 1: protecting his era. But we don't want to go down

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Speaker 1: that path. Um so yeah, let me okay, let let's

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Speaker 1: rewind a little bit real quick. I will say when

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Speaker 1: I first saw that Michael that when you watch the Flashes,

526
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Speaker 1: you go, damn, it's Michael's a goat. We gotta go

527
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Speaker 1: watch this. This is its chareography check. Michael Jordan never

528
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: missed a playoff shot. That's what this documentary is gonna

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00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: show you six to no on the finals. He never

530
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: lost a game. He lost bunny of games. And I

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Speaker 1: will counter and Dan Patrick. Listeners do not get upset

532
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: when you hear this that when Michael dominated in the nineties,

533
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: the league was watered down because Magic was gone, Larry

534
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: Bird's back was broken, Isaiah Thomas had retired. Basically, Magic

535
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Speaker 1: lost to Jordan, and Jordan took over the league and

536
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: it was a water I think the nineteen eighties had

537
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: a much stronger league than the nineties when Jordan dominated.

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Speaker 1: I mean some of those like Seattle Sonics, Kemp and

539
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: Gary Payton teams were good. You know, Lebron just passed

540
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: Gary Payton on the all time assist list. Don't give

541
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: me this, Gary Peyton Sean Kept team was amazing. Afterthoughts,

542
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: So let me hear this right, because I'm shaking my

543
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: head or I'm like, am I hearing this old? No? No No, no, no,

544
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: what I'm just saying, you agree with me that Lebron

545
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Speaker 1: is the greatest of all time. I have it one A,

546
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: one B and I do believe Lebron. Don't give you

547
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: that mess. Don't give me a stiff answer. Don't get

548
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: on here come a SI fancer if Lebron wins the championship,

549
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: but it's likely not. I mean, there's likely not. Five

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00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: days ago with whose favorite corded Vegas? What's the betting

551
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: favorites were the Lakers, right, Gavin, could you confirm they were?

552
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: But who hold on? Now? Oh? Straight loss? Heck no,

553
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: heck no, Kevin, you almost got me jump about Hey, yo, yo,

554
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: are you not an analyst? You're talking about some Vegas Listen, Vegas.

555
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about Vegas. You are desert.

556
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Speaker 1: You are an analyst. You do not missus stat a

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Speaker 1: game a number, Jason, don't you pull that car with

558
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Speaker 1: me talking about who the Vegas favorite song? Clippers? Then

559
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:49,479
Speaker 1: now the Clippers are favored? Uh yeah, but you know

560
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: Paul George has won so many great playoff games, right,

561
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: I mean stop stop. If the Warriors didn't tire roster,

562
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: wasn't beat up last year, just Kawhi Leonard win a title. Hell,

563
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: that's the only reason he has a title. Clippers should

564
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: not be favored. Serious, I'm dead serious. Do we need

565
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: to rent? Did you not watch the game last night? Oh? Yeah,

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00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: season gay meaning the Clippers are better and I saw

567
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: the season opener. No Paul George, no cousla blah blah blah.

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00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: Um hold on, let me let me rewind, let me,

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Speaker 1: let me step off the podium, and let me let

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00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,959
Speaker 1: me have you break becausists news to me? Give me

571
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: reasons why at least three good ones, because I'm gonna

572
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,479
Speaker 1: I think you'll struggle to find one outside of Lebron,

573
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: and we both agree he's amazing. Of why the Lakers,

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Speaker 1: Well that's the number one a seven game series. Lebron

575
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: ain't going down four times to this Clippers team. It

576
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: ain't happening. As long as he load managers or starts

577
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: to load manage, he's gonna be fine. I got no

578
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: concerns about the Lakers, mild concern as I said in

579
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: the opener about the Wings situation, mild concern about the

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00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: closing lineup. But I don't think you know told go

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Speaker 1: out again having our producer has an interesting name on here,

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00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: Marcus Morris. So the Lakers have that lost four in

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00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: a row, right, Anton Davis missed one game. I think

584
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: Lebron missed the Denver game. Um, the Bucks game. You

585
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: know the Bucks are great, a great team built for

586
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: the regular season. Right. We'll get into Hammer and the

587
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,239
Speaker 1: Bucks later, But like, do you think the Lakers need

588
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: to go out and get a Marcus Morris? I like

589
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: how you couldn't give me three reasons on why not

590
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: enough because you got the listen, and I'm gonna trump

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00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: that reason. And I can't believe you don't have a

592
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: I know you have a better case. I know you.

593
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: I think you just don't believe what you're saying right now.

594
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: I don't believe what you're saying. The Clippers have four

595
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: to five guys who can guard Lebron, and I want

596
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: to say there's no one guy. Well, actually they got

597
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: one guy who can flat out guard Lebron, and then

598
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: you got four or five other serviceable guys, which Lebron

599
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: is not just gonna go bullyball on, because when Lebron

600
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: seems a mouse, he's gonna go bullyball. That was a

601
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: way in which the Golden State Warriors slowed down Lebron

602
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: James enough to make him work, in which they put

603
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: hands on his Teams are built to challenge Lebron, no doubt,

604
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: so they can throw four different guys at him in

605
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: a game and as you said, wear him down again

606
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: his show before everybody going throwing the kitchen sink at

607
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: Lebron in December of January, have your fun. He is

608
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: the King for a reason, Um, quick word on your boy.

609
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: We gotta feel like you just agreed and disagree with

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Speaker 1: me in the same sentence, Like you're not making any

611
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: statements this morning. You're all you are look warm. This

612
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: is not the Jason did you get luke warm? But

613
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: you're not really You're Lebron passing to KCP in the playoffs.

614
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: I don't think he is on the court at the

615
00:33:55,520 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: end of the game. Um, who's on the free Bradley?

616
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: I trust Avery Bradman should be. I trust Kuzma, Avery Bradley. Um,

617
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: and I can't. I mean Danny Green? Yes, But and

618
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: what happened to Kuzman in the second half? Kuzman didn't

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Speaker 1: do much in the second half. He did not have

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00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: a great second half. Listen, I like Kuzma. He's a

621
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Speaker 1: bit of a heat check guy. His numbers are Dad,

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Speaker 1: Paul George? Who you hate this? Stop you hate him?

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Speaker 1: Did he I do a show every Saturday. I've been

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Speaker 1: a big Paul George. He hold on? Did he disappear

625
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter? Paul George? Yeah, in Oklahoma City

626
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: when he was no would'm asking you last night? Did

627
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: he just disappeared? Did you not see him anymore? And

628
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 1: a couple of shots? So now you got Paul George,

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Speaker 1: who's essentially lining up against Anthony Davis who shot Fade

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Speaker 1: We're like a couple of days away from lab out

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Speaker 1: on Kuzba. I feel like right Holland going after Kuzma. Listen,

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Speaker 1: My only thing with Kuzma Guys I hope doesn't come

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Speaker 1: the whole like Lonzo Young, Guys, Cuza, and Kuzma is

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Speaker 1: When the Lakers traded away everybody, they didn't give away Kuzma,

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Speaker 1: smarting that that was Lebron. Lebron likes Kuzma. That's the

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Speaker 1: guy that's so tough because you think, what's his name?

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Speaker 1: You didn't even know them Johnson, No, Magic didn't make

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Speaker 1: Rob Pelinka, the guy who you know quietly, that's such

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Speaker 1: it was they were so loud, Kurt bro they were

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Speaker 1: that's a good point. We gotta go to break here

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Speaker 1: on the Dam Pastor Show, he's Ryan Hollins, the primary,

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Speaker 1: Kyle Kuzma hater. Uh come back, come back with the stance.

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Speaker 1: I am Jason backintire. Yes, the Lakers are still the

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Speaker 1: ago I got a text from Doug Gottlieb. I cannot

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Speaker 1: wait to hear thank you for listening. Doug Hope you

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Speaker 1: for the likes on Instagram. Coming up next here on

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, is Kawhi Leonard not not? Is Kawhi

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Speaker 1: Leonard not the superstar humble guy you thought he was?

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Speaker 1: Is he a gigantic diva? Yeah, that's next, Kyle Kuzma.

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Speaker 1: We will defend you. I will not defend Kawhi Leonard,

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Speaker 1: that diva. What's happening, everybody? This is the Offical Lakers Podcast.

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Speaker 1: ready to let it. I think the Lakers will get

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Speaker 1: a top ten defense, and you're telling your try to

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Speaker 1: two superstars in this case as Lebron in ab and

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Speaker 1: this team just feels to be around him. It's a

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Speaker 1: it's a very clear message. It's two stars and Lebron

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Speaker 1: the Dan Patrick Show. I'm Jason McIntyre. He's Ryan Hollins Boy,

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Speaker 1: and Ryan I started to do this new thing a

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Speaker 1: lot more in twenty nineteen. Not go on social media

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Speaker 1: during commercial breaks? Why I don't need that noise in

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Speaker 1: my head. I'd rather do more. Read you're getting slammed. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, people are angry, but that's a good thing,

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Speaker 1: you know, he speaking of getting slammed. We got a

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Speaker 1: call her here. Um. You may know Himan one of

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Speaker 1: the career leaders in assists in college basketball. That's a

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Speaker 1: fun fact. They'll still think he's top ten. My guy,

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Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieve, Doug, good morning, what's going on? You know? Ryan?

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Speaker 1: I like when guys properly we read tweets and don't

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Speaker 1: assume something. Uh, it makes semantic changes. So Jase, I

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Speaker 1: love you, but read the tweet again. Let me let

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Speaker 1: me call it on Dougie. Oh yes, I got it.

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Speaker 1: So Doug, you tweeted something that correct me. Jason just

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Speaker 1: took completely out of context a couple of minutes ago.

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Speaker 1: It has been blusting you, but you read it he

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Speaker 1: took like a step that didn't. I said that Joel

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Speaker 1: embid might be the most talented guy in the league.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean he's to the league's best player. Did

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Speaker 1: he seven foot seven one? He can shoot, he can

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Speaker 1: handle it, can move. Latterly, he can actually score in

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Speaker 1: the post, unlike most of these dudes, like he has

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Speaker 1: basketball skills to go along with incredible athletic ability. Like

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Speaker 1: that dude is legit. That doesn't mean that he puts

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Speaker 1: it all together Joel embed yesterday he did. Here's Dougs tweet.

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Speaker 1: Joel embiad is the best player on the court and

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Speaker 1: that was with the reigning MVP Jannis on the court

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Speaker 1: as well. Yes yesterday, he was the best, probably the

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Speaker 1: best all around talent in the league. If you want

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Speaker 1: to get down to it, Ryan Hollins, do you agree

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Speaker 1: Joel em beat is probably the best all around talent

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Speaker 1: in the league. You want to go no, no, no

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Speaker 1: about it, Bryan. I love Joel. Uh. I believe he

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Speaker 1: made a statement to let you know he's the best

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Speaker 1: big man in basketball. Uh, but all around talent, I

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Speaker 1: would have to assess that one hold. Did Anthony Davis

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Speaker 1: stop playing in the NBA overnight, you're telling me e

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Speaker 1: Beat is a better big man than Anthony. I believe

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Speaker 1: yesterday he brought I believe yesterday. I believe yesterday he

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Speaker 1: made the call to say I'm the best big man

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Speaker 1: in basketball. But this season, I would give a nod

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Speaker 1: to Anthony Davis. But I'm more of a normally an

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Speaker 1: in bead guy, but a long list entire season, and Doug,

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Speaker 1: am I wrong? I would say that Anthony Davis is

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Speaker 1: potentially MVP of the NBA, but yesterday didn't help his case.

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Speaker 1: Doun Well, I mean, I like, again, we're having parallel conversations.

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Speaker 1: Do I think Anthony Davis had a better year? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: That's kind of part of the problem with Joel Embiid

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Speaker 1: is that whether it's whether it's his diet or taking

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Speaker 1: games seriously or whatever, it doesn't always come out. And

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Speaker 1: also I think surrounding casts, you know, Ben Simmons been

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Speaker 1: up and down this year, whereas Anthony Davis has Lebron

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Speaker 1: James and Lebron. For those of us, like the three

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Speaker 1: of us who watch every Lakers game, his sole purpose,

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Speaker 1: seemingly in life has been to make Anthony Davis and

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Speaker 1: alpha and a superstar through the first half of this year,

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Speaker 1: so it's a completely different setup. My point is that, look,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I love Jannis's game, but he doesn't actually

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Speaker 1: have a ton of game. He's got that great hero step,

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Speaker 1: he goes left and spins back to the right. He's

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Speaker 1: not a natural shooter, whereas Embiid during his year off

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Speaker 1: he really worked and he has a much much better

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Speaker 1: looking jump shot and beat them has a legit post game.

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Speaker 1: They're both you know, obviously Yannis can cover more positions defensively,

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Speaker 1: but it beats a tremendous rimper chector when he wants

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Speaker 1: to be, when he's in shape. And then you know

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Speaker 1: that's for Anthony Davis, like Andy Davis not really a

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Speaker 1: true post scorer. Um, I think Anthony Davis is terrific.

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Speaker 1: I think Mbiad's a little bit better in terms of

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Speaker 1: being a true big man. And yeah, you're you're right, Ryan,

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Speaker 1: where Like it's hard to compare wings and guards. And

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Speaker 1: I mean, Kawhi Leonard looked like the best player in

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Speaker 1: the NBA last night, and this is his league. When

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Speaker 1: he when heat, you know, in big games, when he

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Speaker 1: decides all right, I'm gonna make a statement, But Embiad

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Speaker 1: has the talent to do anything he wants to do.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's the big challenge for philadelp That's

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Speaker 1: really kind of the point of it is that that's

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Speaker 1: the challenge of Philadelphia is can you get that out

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Speaker 1: of Joel more often? Especially as you get ready for

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Speaker 1: the playoffs? Hey, hey, Doug, really quick? U is it

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Speaker 1: safe to say that the Lakers are complete fools gold

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Speaker 1: and that was shown last night. I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: fools goal. I mean, yes, the start of the fourth

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Speaker 1: quarter of Lebron jumping up making shops, I thought the word,

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Speaker 1: I thought the two words fool's goal came right to

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Speaker 1: my line as I'm sure, did you like? Their big

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00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 1: thing is like, dude, they don't who's going to create

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Speaker 1: a shot for him? You know, Lebron can't get a

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Speaker 1: step on on legit defenders. Now you know he's he's

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Speaker 1: got to go, you know, downhill and put his head down.

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Speaker 1: I just I feel like they're a guy away and

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Speaker 1: everyone's talking about them, adding Andrea Goodala, like that's not

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Speaker 1: what Andrea Goodala brings that they need somebody to go

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Speaker 1: get him a bucket. And you know that playing Rondo

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Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter was because Caruso did not look

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Speaker 1: like you wanted any part of the basketball late, and

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Speaker 1: Rondo can't play, shouldn't be on the court, and that

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Speaker 1: big a game. He's just not that guy anymore. And

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Speaker 1: so I don't know if i'd go fool's gold, but

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Speaker 1: I do think they're clearly missing something that's going to

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Speaker 1: hold them back from a championship. And I think you

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Speaker 1: and I both see and I think most NBA guys

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Speaker 1: see it. There's something something missing there. And Lebron at

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Speaker 1: thirty five, he's gonna need some time off here. But

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Speaker 1: I still just don't know if he's got the juice

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Speaker 1: in the tank for a playoff run without somebody else

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Speaker 1: helping carry the loads. Joe Gottlieb, Ladies and gentle Doug,

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Speaker 1: your host in the Herd today, I am all right, Doug,

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Speaker 1: catch him on the Herd, Ladies and gentlemen. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: checking in, Doug. Yeah, we would love shout out Doug.

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Speaker 1: All right, Doug Gottlieb, Ladies and gentlemen. So that was

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Speaker 1: a fun first hour here on the Dan Patrick Show. Um,

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Speaker 1: I didn't really get to rip into Kawhi Leonard yet.

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Speaker 1: And Ryan listen, I'm sure You've got the story about

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Speaker 1: Uncle Dennis. Uncle Dennis the diva Uncle Dennis, who's basically

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Speaker 1: what Antonio Brown. Can we call him that or no?

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Speaker 1: I mean the guy making these demands to the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: I need a private jet. I mean some of this

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Speaker 1: stuff that came out in this story. We'll get to

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Speaker 1: it next hour. Oh my gosh, oh are you you you?

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Speaker 1: I'm going after Kawhi. I don't want to hear this.

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Speaker 1: He's a humble he's such a great guy, superstar. Behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes. His uncle's demanding everything he wanted, every he

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Speaker 1: wanted the world from the Lakers. Get out of here, Kawhi, Leonard,

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Speaker 1: give me a break. Load management fraud. He's a load

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Speaker 1: management fraud. You can't load manage in November, Ryan, you cannot,

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Speaker 1: oh January? So okay, Kauwhy is the reason that everybody

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