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Speaker 1: Hi, guys, this is Teddy Mellencamp and I'm joined by

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Speaker 1: my friend Emily Simpson for our new spinoff show Popping Off,

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Speaker 1: where we are digging deep on this season of vander

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Speaker 1: Pump Rules. Hi guys, welcome to another episode of Popping

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Speaker 1: Off with Teddy Mellencamp.

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Speaker 2: And Emily Simpson. Do I hear a little cold in

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Speaker 2: your voice? I think you hear a lot of cold

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Speaker 2: in my voice. I'm not sure where it came from.

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Speaker 2: I think here's what I think. I think it's from

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Speaker 2: the other night at the bar.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking it may have been because I think

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Speaker 1: I saw your hand on the spray nozzle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Probably, I mean, I'm pretty sure.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm confused while your name wasn't mentioned, and

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Speaker 1: don't give anything away because I don't want to get

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Speaker 1: in trouble. But right my spidery eyes ninety nine percent

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Speaker 1: sure that both people on that bar were.

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Speaker 2: My co hosts Onto Typo Pop.

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Speaker 1: I cannot confirm or deny that allegation at this time.

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 1: I also feel like I may have saw It's unclear

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Speaker 1: if I saw your hand take the like soda nozzle

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Speaker 1: you spray it into tameras crotch, or if that was

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Speaker 1: her own hand sprang the sprite or whatever it may

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Speaker 2: I had this at this point. I don't even know

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Speaker 2: what happened. I just know I'm sick, very sick, very ill.

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Speaker 2: Apparently when you're forty eight you could not handle girls'

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Speaker 2: nights out like that.

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Speaker 1: Well, I appreciated it, and thank you, you know, actually

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Speaker 1: not thank you. I wish people didn't spoil it and

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Speaker 1: post the videos because I would have been way more

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Speaker 1: excited to make fun of you guys in real time

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Speaker 1: when it's airing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm sure. I'm sure you'll do it again. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: don't worry.

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Speaker 1: I'll always have an opportunity to push forward. So I

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Speaker 1: guess we start. Do you have any do you have

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Speaker 1: any personal things you'd like to talk about before we

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Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you this. Do you think there's

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Speaker 2: an age limit for dancing on a bar like? Do

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Speaker 2: you think there's an age limit for living out your

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Speaker 2: coyote ugly dreams? No?

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Speaker 1: No, I don't. I mean, no one broke a hip,

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Speaker 1: so you're not too old. No, I mean I've already

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Speaker 1: done that.

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Speaker 2: How we're past that? So I got a new hip.

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Speaker 1: Now that's actually a sign you've already broken your hip

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Speaker 1: and you have a new hip.

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Speaker 2: I got a new hip I had. I had to

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Speaker 2: try it out on the bar.

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Speaker 1: Well, it seems that you're you're in good your your

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Speaker 1: body is physically able to handle it.

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Speaker 2: So I say, you're still fine to do it.

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Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure if I was there, I probably

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Speaker 1: would have joined you to do the same thing.

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Speaker 2: But we had a place that we went to where.

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Speaker 1: I was, where I grew up, where it was called

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Speaker 1: my gosh, I don't know what its real name was.

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Speaker 2: What we called it the Slimer because they would let

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Speaker 2: like underage kids and it sounds like a classy place.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, classy, yeah, I mean my fake I d My

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Speaker 1: first fake id's name was Emily, was it?

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Speaker 2: It was? You know why, because that's a very like respectable,

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Speaker 2: like nice name. It doesn't it doesn't scream underage drinking. True.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it wasn't me. It was somebody else, And.

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Speaker 1: I want to know whoever would have allowed this because

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Speaker 1: Emily from my ID was not only thirty six years

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Speaker 1: old when I was seventeen, but also she also brunette,

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Speaker 1: yes not one part.

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Speaker 2: She was also tall. We went with all of it.

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Speaker 1: But people were like, whatever, if you must come to

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Speaker 1: the Slimer to dance on the bar, just come on it,

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Speaker 1: so be it, So be it. We'll give you two

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Speaker 1: Long Islands Long Island iced tea so you can throw

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Speaker 1: up when you leave and your parents will be really proud.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't really have anything to report other

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Speaker 1: than I just I don't know. I know you've been

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Speaker 1: on this workout journey, and this is not an ad

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Speaker 1: you guys. This is just truly my curiosity. Have you

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Speaker 1: done this EMS concierge before? No, I don't even know

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Speaker 1: what that is. Holy, okay, so what's EMS is? It

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Speaker 1: sounds like an emergency service. Well it feels like that. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, anybody that knows me knows I have all in.

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Speaker 1: I work out every day in some capacity, whether it's

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Speaker 1: so stassy, which is why I'm telling the story. Stossy,

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Speaker 1: a million years and who I think is very.

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Speaker 2: Missed when I'm watching this.

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Speaker 1: She posted on her stories a couple of weeks ago

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Speaker 1: about it, and I asked her, I'm like, do you

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Speaker 1: like it. She's like, I love it. It changed my body.

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Speaker 1: It's incredible. I never believe people when they say things

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Speaker 1: like that. Right, Like, I'm like, okay, we'll see and

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Speaker 1: people will maybe call this cheating because it's the equivalent

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Speaker 1: to a three to four hour workout in twenty minutes.

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Speaker 1: But it is so hard. Wait, I don't understand what

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Speaker 1: it is. It's a workout. Well, they come to your house,

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Speaker 1: they strap you with a wet outfit, and then they

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Speaker 1: put all these like I don't know electro. I didn't

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Speaker 1: do much research on it. I just was influenced and

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Speaker 1: tried it. I did it one time last week. You're

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Speaker 1: only allowed to do it one time a week. That's

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Speaker 1: how intense it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, does it hurt?

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Speaker 1: I was sore for an entire seven days until I

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Speaker 1: tried it again today and then it's twenty minutes.

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Speaker 2: I'm like shaking. My kids are laughing at me.

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Speaker 1: So I'm curious to report back, like after four weeks

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Speaker 1: if I can really see a difference. But I'm going

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Speaker 1: to keep going once a week because I have the

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Speaker 2: But you've got to try it, and I need to.

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Speaker 1: Know if you feel one hundred and seventy five when

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Speaker 1: you try to do a squat, because squat with no way.

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Speaker 1: It's like this, Like I say, it's like a machine.

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Speaker 1: You hook yourself up to a machine. Yeah, well a

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Speaker 1: professional hooks you up to a machine. Yeah, why we're here,

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Speaker 1: I may as well plug all in if you want

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Speaker 1: to go all in. We've also thanks a lot of Zimpic.

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Speaker 2: We've now had to slash our price. Is it all in?

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Speaker 1: But even if you're on ozimpic, all in is an

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Speaker 1: amazing thing to do because once you go off of it,

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Speaker 1: you have to stay consistent with your moving your body,

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Speaker 1: what you're eating. And I think, Emily, your true testament

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Speaker 1: to that. You're like, I, yes, but I am so

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Speaker 1: we're con tired of the ozempic comments. It's been no

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Speaker 1: but no, but your testament year right, But that is

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Speaker 1: my point. You continued a healthy lifestyle, yes, afterwards, Yes,

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Speaker 2: I've kept the weight off for over a year now.

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Speaker 2: And it's not because of ozempic. It's because I go

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Speaker 2: to the gym seven days a week and I bust

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Speaker 2: my ass and I don't eat crap anymore.

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Speaker 1: And when you do, that's fine. It's not about never

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Speaker 1: eating crap or no. I do order taco bell like

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Speaker 1: once a month at like ten o'clock at night.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and I think that is balanced.

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Speaker 1: But I think the point is a lot of people

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Speaker 1: are going to struggle if there is no sut if

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Speaker 1: you don't continue on and you were to just take

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Speaker 1: a shot and then you expect it to last forever. No,

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Speaker 1: you have to change your mindset and you have to

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Speaker 1: change soone different things. And that's why I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: all In.

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Speaker 2: Go to all In by.

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Speaker 1: Teddy dot com and we will hold you accountable to

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Speaker 1: whatever your life change may want to be. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the end of our plugs right now. It just

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Speaker 1: naturally came up because I am very inspired by you

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Speaker 1: watching your posts and how you have changed your story,

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Speaker 1: and I think, oh, thank you. I think it's cool.

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Speaker 1: The Vanderpump Rules headline starts off with Rachel Levis pops

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Speaker 1: up on the runway at New York's Fashion Week amid

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Speaker 1: new vander Pump Rules page six article. Here, she made

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Speaker 1: her way to New York City in time for fashion Week,

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Speaker 1: where she walked the runway for Claudie by Joanna Hernandez

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Speaker 1: on Thursday, Sporting two different looks.

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Speaker 2: She looks beautiful, she really does. She's very statuesque.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she's statue at like she especially in this like

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Speaker 1: This is also written in the article She's a former

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Speaker 1: pageant Queen won the title of Miss Sonoma County in

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Speaker 1: then later went on to compete in Miss California and

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Speaker 2: Did you do pageants growing up?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: I only did one pageant and it was, uh, this

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Speaker 2: is this is people don't know this stuff about me.

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Speaker 2: But I was married to a marine before I was

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Speaker 2: married to Shane, and I actually did a missimper Fi pageant.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't even tell you what. You don't know what

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Speaker 2: Miss simper Fi like, I don't know what that is.

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Speaker 2: Marine's like simper fi. Oh okay, okay, it means always faithful.

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Speaker 2: don't know. I don't think there was a bathing suit

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Speaker 1: to go on like a hush wife pageant, yes, something

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Speaker 2: Would your talent be? Well, I would have two. It

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Speaker 2: good at that.

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Speaker 1: I'm really good at committing to saying I'm right about

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Speaker 1: something even if I'm wrong right. And I'm also excellent

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Speaker 1: at holding an a burp because I had constantly.

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Speaker 2: Refos and especially.

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Speaker 1: Today now that I kind of coffee like, you will

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Speaker 1: what the burps wore when I had shep on the pod,

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Speaker 2: Was just the whole time. I mean, I think he.

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Speaker 1: May have been slightly overserved at the point at that point,

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Speaker 1: but I mean I've now become an expert at holding

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Speaker 1: in burps. And then I can do one thing that

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Speaker 1: I don't know that this is appropriate for.

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Speaker 2: A miss, I'm scared faithful competition.

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Speaker 1: Well, I need to know because I've only met three

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Speaker 1: I need to know if you're one of them.

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Speaker 1: Can you do this? No? My daughter is one of

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Speaker 1: the three, and I feel like you just won the pageant.

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Speaker 2: Can someone give her a crown? You just won?

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Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break and we'll come back to

439
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Speaker 1: talk about episode three.

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Speaker 2: All right, we are back.

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Speaker 1: Episode three, Shorts tell Sandoval he should have apologized for

442
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 1: the ultimate betrayal. Sandoval says James did the same thing

443
00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 1: to him, but much worse with Kristen. You see Shorts

444
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,439
Speaker 1: in this moment, like, can I do just apologize, Like

445
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 1: I'm trying.

446
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 2: To help you.

447
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 1: I'm trying to like throw you a softball and you

448
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 1: just keep pounding.

449
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 2: At it and screwing stuff up. Yeah. So okay, So

450
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 2: in this moment, even if he doesn't feel like he

451
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 2: should apologize for some for this ultimate betrayal, you think

452
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 2: he should have just done it anyway, just to get

453
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 2: back in the good grases of people, Like is there

454
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 2: a part where you just eat shit where you're just like, okay,

455
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 2: I'm sorry so that you can move forward.

456
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,640
Speaker 1: Like you're right I see I handled this like an asshole.

457
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 1: I wish I would have done things differently. I'm sorry.

458
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 3: Just even if you're not, even if you thought you

459
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 3: were madly in love with this girl, even if your

460
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 3: other relationship was flawed, even if he's done it to

461
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 3: you at this point, none of that matters because us,

462
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 3: as the viewers of Vanderpump rules at having to recap

463
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 3: this show.

464
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 1: I'm sick and tired of trying to watch two different

465
00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 1: casts because people refuse to be in your so right

466
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 1: only for the sake of me and Emily right, just

467
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:05,880
Speaker 1: say you're freaking sorry.

468
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we can talk about something else.

469
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Shorts emphasize. Shorts emphasizes if he gets really

470
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 1: upset every time someone confronts him, it's going.

471
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 2: To have a negative impact on his life.

472
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,479
Speaker 1: Is nobody going to ask why Sandoval has a giant

473
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: pair of anal beads around his neck at this party,

474
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 1: because that's also something I noticed.

475
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 2: I thought it was just like a It looks like

476
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,640
Speaker 2: a giant caterpillar that like kids made in like their

477
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 2: preschool class. That's all I can think about, Like, like,

478
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 2: what group of preschoolers made this for you? And you're

479
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 2: wearing it, like do you have a little sister we don't.

480
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: Know about, Like we need information. But then we go

481
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: from the anal beads and the singing happy Birthday to

482
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 1: James and Ali arrive to Emo Night. James tells Ariana

483
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: he came back from the house He's says Sandoval brought

484
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: up Kristen After asking for an apology, Ariana says Sandoval

485
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 1: only has people left in his life that he pays.

486
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: And then they did a montage with all the people

487
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 1: in his life that he pays. Yeah, and then they

488
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 1: were like and they were like, these are the moments,

489
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:22,199
Speaker 1: the moments we live for. And then Schwartz arrives to

490
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: Emo Knight and apologizes for missing Sena set Shina tells

491
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 1: him this is what happens when she chooses Sandoval. Sandoval

492
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 1: is thankful that everyone is a part of his life.

493
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: He's sad that Rachel didn't text him happy birthday, which

494
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: led us to something we talked about in the headlines,

495
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: which he was expecting a call.

496
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 2: Then maybe there was no breakup, but I mean at

497
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 2: least a birthday postcard.

498
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, or like a birthday lamp, a birthday postcard,

499
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 1: but also if you really are living your best life

500
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 1: for Ariana, what do you care?

501
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 2: Wait? Didn't he buy her a lamp that she touches

502
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 2: and then he touches and then they touch it at

503
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 2: the same time. Remember the lamp?

504
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: Did you make this up?

505
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 2: Did this actually happened? And I blocked it out? So

506
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 2: there's like a laymp like he bought her a lamp.

507
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 2: It's like a light and when she touches it like

508
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 2: a no, like flap on. He touches the lamp and

509
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 2: he touches the lamp at the same sign. I've had

510
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 2: a lot of take well.

511
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: I don't remember this. I'm not saying you're not right.

512
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 1: If this is right, this is brilliant. But all of

513
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: this is it's it's really trying hard. And I can

514
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 1: see what's going to happen is they are going to

515
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 1: keep pitting.

516
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 2: Shena flip flopping back and.

517
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: Forth and uh, but I would probably be like Shena

518
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: in this moment.

519
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 2: I see both sides.

520
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: But I also missed the part where Sheena was best

521
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 1: friends with Arianna because she says that in this episode

522
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: is my best friend.

523
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 2: But are we gonna make those vibes?

524
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: Because to me, Katie and Katie and Ariana our.

525
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,239
Speaker 2: Best friend see thank you there was a lamp. I

526
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 2: just would like to confirm, Oh Tom bought Rachel a

527
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: friendship lamp. I can't.

528
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: And when they touch it, like she touches it or

529
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: he touches it, it like lights up so they can

530
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: tell each other that.

531
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 2: They're like thinking of each other in different locations.

532
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, our one of our producers just said, that's

533
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: so cringe.

534
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 2: I actually don't hate it. I don't like I was wondering,

535
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 2: like on his birthday, maybe she touched the lamp to

536
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 2: like let him know that she was thinking of him

537
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 2: on his birthday. I'm a genie in a buttle baby.

538
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 2: I can't. I need to know.

539
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: Then after Emo night where they all had side parts,

540
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, I have a side part every day and

541
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: I'm not EMO, Like, why Joe, why do you have

542
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 1: to take away the ninety from us? Right? I love

543
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: the side part. I still rock a side part. I

544
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: mean we because we're old. I mean, even though I'm

545
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: a little older than you, I wouldn't say a lot.

546
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 1: Are you in your fifties yet? No, I'm still forty eight. Yeah,

547
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 1: so you're not a lot? Then, Ariana and Katie get ivs.

548
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: They're in the house, they're in the place where they share.

549
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: Guess what Anne's doing.

550
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 2: Cleaning up dead birthday flowers. That's what Anne's doing. Every

551
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 2: episode has dead birthday flowers. I just would like to

552
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 2: point that out. I just can't.

553
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: And then Arianna says people manipulate she Nea to feel

554
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: bad for them. Katie admits it makes her nervous to

555
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: get close to her. Would it matter to you if

556
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: Sheena was still engaging with Shorts or Sandoval?

557
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: I don't think so. But that's from an outsider viewpoint,

558
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 2: so I don't know what it was would feel like

559
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 2: to go through all those emotions within the group. From

560
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 2: me watching it from an outsider, I'm like, who cares

561
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 2: if she talks to him? He seems like a nice guy.

562
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: But well, this is always I mean, I've from the

563
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: couple of years that I have watched this show, it

564
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: seems like if there is a girl that they always

565
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: leave out, it's Shena. So a lot of the time

566
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: her relationship has been with these guys, and so she's

567
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: leave her out, Yeah, because the girls leave her out.

568
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: And I just feel like to then be like, oh,

569
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: you can't be friends with this person when clearly nobody's

570
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: freaking dumb these they're all paid to be on the

571
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: same show, right And I'm here to tell.

572
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 2: You right now, you and I will not do well.

573
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: If you start saying you refuse to film with somebody,

574
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: even on your show that has nothing to do with me.

575
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: But I have to recap it. I just think it's

576
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: obnoxious behavior.

577
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 2: I don't do that. I've never done that.

578
00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: I'm a team player, team player, but Anne is actually

579
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: a bigger team player than you, and I need to

580
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,719
Speaker 1: know what her full job description is.

581
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 2: Is it assistant.

582
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 4: Housekeeper, mediator or up balloon blower upper yeah, male opener,

583
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 4: male opener.

584
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 2: And then white noise turner on.

585
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: Off her purchaser of friendship lamps. I want to know

586
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: what this position pays, because, like, I feel like this

587
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: is actually I.

588
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 2: Can do these things, you know, because Anne is very tactful.

589
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 2: She manages both relationships. You would be an asshole.

590
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: There's no way you could do it.

591
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 2: Coming there, Oh it's not. You would be in the

592
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 2: middle of everything.

593
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: I'd be like, hold on, yeah, Arianna, let's get real pissed.

594
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: And I'd be like, oh my god, Tom, she is

595
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: such a beach, you would be. I couldn't help myself.

596
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: I just stir it, keep it, that's right. Then Sandoval

597
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: brings Lisa flowers up pump where there's more dead flowers

598
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: and half bottles of champagne and things have taken a

599
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: rough time.

600
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's all she needs is more flowers, when

601
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: clearly she's trying to move flowers out of that location.

602
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: She's like, if I could, I could do something, It'd

603
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: be a foot massage or a truck or.

604
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 2: Or some big boxes. Right, can you carry this shit out?

605
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 2: Can you take the ship to shorts? And Sandy's please?

606
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: I mean seriously, but I hate.

607
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 2: I hate to even say this because it paints me.

608
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: I kind of agree with everything the LVP said in

609
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: this scene.

610
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 2: Oh, I agree with everything she said. She was on it.

611
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 2: She was on the ball.

612
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: She was on the ball. She is trying to level

613
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: with Sandoval. She's not being mean to him. He starts

614
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: to get a like, you know.

615
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 2: Like you're attacking me and she wasn't.

616
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: And she wasn't, And she levels him back down. She

617
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: gets him to take some sort of accountability. She talks

618
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: about suicide, and she talks about it in a way

619
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: that I think as.

620
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 2: A viewer, you really can understand.

621
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: You hear the backstory, like I do, see Lisa More

622
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: as the producer who cares about the show versus a

623
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: mother figure.

624
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 2: Though I felt like it was both. I mean, I

625
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 2: understand she's a producer, but I did feel like it

626
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 2: was genuine. It felt like tough love to me, where

627
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: it was like solid advice. What are you doing? Move

628
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,239
Speaker 2: out of the house. You know, if you're having these

629
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 2: dark thoughts, you have to tell someone, talk to me.

630
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 2: I'll be there for you. I don't know. I liked

631
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 2: what she said. She was on point the whole time.

632
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 2: I agree.

633
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: I thought she was on point. But the problem is

634
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: we find that it didn't really work. But I can't help.

635
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: Like Standival says something, he goes, oh, no, Shorts actually

636
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: said this. But when he walks up when they're at

637
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: wherever they are, sir, wherever the heck they are, see

638
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: you next Tuesday, and he says, you know, I'd rather

639
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: be treated like at least they're acknowledging my presence. I'd

640
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: prefer that and being rude to me or you know,

641
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: with hate or whatever, then indifference.

642
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 2: See. I agree with that statement because I've always said

643
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 2: when it comes to an ex or someone in your

644
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 2: life that's toxic. If you can get to the point

645
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 2: where you're indifferent, then that's the ultimate feeling. Like that's

646
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: where you've reached, like the top of the mountain, you

647
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,479
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like with Shane's ex wife, Like

648
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 2: I feel indifference. I don't feel jealousy or hate or anything,

649
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 2: because all those emotions our strong emotions. But when you

650
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 2: feel indifference, that literally means that you've means you're done.

651
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 2: You're just you're done, you don't care. Yeah, And difference

652
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 2: is just it's a good place to be when it

653
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 2: comes to X's I don't know if it's a good

654
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 2: place to be when you're on a show, when you're

655
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 2: on a reality television show.

656
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: Getting iced out right, we get to Sena and Katie

657
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: going out for dinner. Sena says they used to be

658
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: close and they're trying to spend more one on one

659
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,280
Speaker 1: time together. The foreshadowing shadowing of this is brilliant because

660
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,439
Speaker 1: at some point we're going to see that Shena made

661
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: out with Shorts allegedly, and so I'm wondering if this

662
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: is just about to be whatever, and this is going

663
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: to sound bad, but it's it's a little bit hard

664
00:34:54,080 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: for me to see nobody really getting messy on ban rules.

665
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: Like I appreciate when Lala and Lala and James are

666
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: sober because I think it's there they bring it regardless,

667
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: this is their life. It's something that's better for their life.

668
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: But when people are dabbling in sober curiosity, it's not.

669
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 2: That's such a it's such a funny term though, sober

670
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 2: curious like that. Just I mean, why does it even

671
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 2: have a term? It has its own term where you're

672
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,959
Speaker 2: just like thinking about not drinking, it has a term. Yeah,

673
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I just I don't know.

674
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 1: When I think Vanderpump rules, I don't see like a

675
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:42,240
Speaker 1: sober group.

676
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, they can all just sit around and hold hands

677
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,240
Speaker 2: and sing Kumbaia and talk about how they inspire each other.

678
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and go to meetings like this isn't. This isn't

679
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: what's happening. So, I mean, I guess the sober curiosity

680
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: with the juice crafters, little thing that Shorts it's going

681
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: to have to do. But then we get to Shorts

682
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 1: telling Lisa that his oh gosh, now the segue into

683
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: this really makes me look like an asshole.

684
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you are an asshole.

685
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I am, at least I have accountability.

686
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,959
Speaker 1: But Shurtz tells Lisa that his brother Bert was rushed

687
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: to the hospital, possibly for cirrhosis. Bert was jumped outside

688
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 1: of a bar and was never the same. Lisa says,

689
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: did he really drink that much? And then Lisa says

690
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: she's opening a new restaurant in Tahoe. Shorts invites himself,

691
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: and of course Lisa goes.

692
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 2: Sure, but invite everybody. Yeah, it's a cast trip, It's okay.

693
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: But then also, why when Schwartz was doing the inviting

694
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: of everybody, did he tell them you can get your

695
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: own place?

696
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 2: Like do they have to on cast trips? They have

697
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: to pay for their own hotel room. I guess if

698
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: you don't stay, if you don't stay at the Lisa

699
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 2: Vanderbalm Tahoe location, you have to get your own I.

700
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 1: Like that, all chomping at the bit. Then they're at

701
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: the oh, we could just call it the sur circle.

702
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: They're at their sur circle and Sandoval is ready to

703
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: be apologetic to the rest of the group. Arianna says

704
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 1: she doesn't want Sandoval in her circle. She speaks for

705
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: the full group. Sandoval apologizes to Jesse, the waiter of Allay.

706
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 2: This this whole scene where Sandoval shows up and then

707
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: he sits at the table, The whole scene like gave

708
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 2: me a little anxiety because I just I felt I

709
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 2: felt badly for him, well.

710
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 1: Because you know, he's like showing up and it's because

711
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: he has to. He's under contract rights, so awkward, he

712
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: knows no one wants him there. And I'm feeling bad

713
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: for Schwartz too, because like, why because your friend has

714
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: done an asshole move, is that really Schwartz's fault.

715
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 2: No, That's that's why I don't understand the backlash against Shorts,

716
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 2: like let it go, let him, let him be friends

717
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 2: with him, let him be friends with everybody. There has

718
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 2: to be someone that bridges the gap.

719
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: So I mean, they think he conspired, but still just

720
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: because they think he conspired with him about it, you know,

721
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that they need to be so mean

722
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: about Schortz's wrinkled shirt.

723
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 2: Like that made me sad. And then he was like

724
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 2: I feel he's like it's the same, says Well. I

725
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 2: was like, I felt really.

726
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: Sad about it, and I was like, and you don't

727
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: you can tell he's like going through Shorts is going

728
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: through it too.

729
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, why are they being so fucking mean to Shorts?

730
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 2: And it's like he's regaled.

731
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: Sure, he's trying, he's trying, and he did say he

732
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: ironed it, like gosh. But then Shorts does the inviting

733
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,760
Speaker 1: to the whole group and Arianna, you know, when.

734
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 2: She says she will not be near her ex, Laala.

735
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: Asks Shorts why he feels the need to stand by

736
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: Sandoval's side. Shorts says their friendship is strained. Lala says

737
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: he'll look back and regret this. I'm a little bit

738
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 1: confused here because La La last week was kind of

739
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: the voice of reason saying what we were all saying.

740
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: But I mean, she reached out to Rachel. Then she

741
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: reached out to Rachel, and she also asked, Arianna, you know,

742
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: why don't you move out of the house, Like.

743
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's a little it's it's a little playing

744
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 2: both sides. But I feel like she she just says

745
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 2: the things that she that the audience is thinking at

746
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 2: the time, even if it contradicts what she said the

747
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 2: week before.

748
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 5: But I guess she's giving us what we need. We

749
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 5: need all of these questions and kind of the la

750
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 5: la too. Like I feel like I'm the one that

751
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 5: does that kind of stuff too, because I can I

752
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 5: know what people want to know.

753
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. Then Ariana tells Shorts she gave up on him.

754
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 2: This was also it's too much.

755
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: Uh. She tells Shorts she gave up on him and

756
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: her life is a lot better because of it. Schwortz

757
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: tells her not to speak for the group and her

758
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,399
Speaker 1: ego is getting a little too big. I don't under

759
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: like you've already come for Shorts for months. You see

760
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: that you're all going to be filming together. They didn't

761
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: fire these guys, so stuck it up, Buttercup at this point,

762
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: like they're not they didn't fire them. If they fired them,

763
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: or the guys didn't come back, go for it, break

764
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: them through the coals. But they're there. Yeah, so make

765
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: some effort. Do you think that her ego is getting

766
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: a little too big? Do you agree with what he said?

767
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: I don't know that it's necessarily her ego, But I

768
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: don't think that the you know what we were talking

769
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: about earlier with Indifferent, she hasn't hit the I feeled

770
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: enough that I'm indifferent.

771
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 2: She's in the angry stage right now, which to me,

772
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 2: I mean she's not over she's in the hatred stage.

773
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: Like she's very like, very emotional hate anger stage.

774
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 2: She's definitely not over it. She needs to get to indifference.

775
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: If she gets to indifference, she is good, golden. Yeah.

776
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: Once she gets to indifference, she won't give a shit

777
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: if he's sitting there or not sitting there.

778
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 2: She can still carry on a conversation.

779
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been in situations where I will not

780
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: look at that person, talk to them whatever. But they

781
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: could be at the same party as me, the same

782
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: dinner as me, the same whatever. Right, but we can

783
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: be in the same place. But I also can't imagine

784
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: producers are like nobody's talking to Santoval. Shina, put your

785
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 1: giant sunglasses on and casually walk past that romantic looking

786
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,240
Speaker 1: too top and see what he does.

787
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 2: I know that was awkward too. That was so cringey.

788
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: I oh my gosh.

789
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 2: And then he's like Sina, and then she turns around,

790
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 2: and then there's like this awkward silence where they just

791
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 2: stare at each other, and then she's like sunglasses on

792
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: and like slow motion, it's like, can we and I'm like,

793
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 2: and she's like, not here in public. I don't want

794
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 2: to be seen with you. Basically, I will talk to

795
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 2: you in the alley.

796
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: I will talk to you in the alley where we

797
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: all used to be hammered and drink SIGs and have

798
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 1: sex with each other, but now we don't because we're

799
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 1: sober curious.

800
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 2: That's right, drink siggs. I drink and have smoke SIGs.

801
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 2: Drink and have SIGs in the SIGs in the alley.

802
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 1: But then when they go to sit down to talk,

803
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 1: I start to think that this is going to be

804
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: a good conversation.

805
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:42,479
Speaker 2: No, it's not good. No, it didn't end up that way.

806
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 2: Did not in that way. I was like, I had

807
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 2: like secondhand cringe embarrassment the whole time the conversation was

808
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 2: going on.

809
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: I was like, I also want to understand because on

810
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: Real Housewives, when it's a dramatic scene, you're not allowed

811
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: to keep your sunglasses on, especially at night, Like I

812
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: have worn sunglass one.

813
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 2: I don't wear sunglasses at night because I'm not what,

814
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 2: are you a rock star? I'm not. I am not.

815
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: You know, I don't have a hit on uber eat

816
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: as good as gold, So I cannot. I can't justify

817
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: sunglasses at night, especially if I was sober and had

818
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: sunglasses on at night, like someone checked my pulse. But

819
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: I I'm wondering, like I want to see somebody's eyes,

820
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 1: and I remember that being a thing like that wasn't

821
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: that you weren't allowed, but like the action would say, hey,

822
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: can you take your sunglasses off? And like on Real

823
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: Housewives in Miami, not Gertie, Kiki takes her sunglasses off

824
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 1: and says, I'm taking my sunglasses off so you can

825
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: see me like my emotion or having the sunglasses on,

826
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 1: I couldn't see.

827
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it was night right and the alley was dark.

828
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: It was nice, it was nighttime.

829
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 1: That's my point.

830
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 2: I we mass sun lasses that night. But I mean,

831
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:08,720
Speaker 2: she looks hot.

832
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: But Sandoval says he can't do anything about the past.

833
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 1: Sheena emphasizes that he can be apologetic and remorseful. Sandoval

834
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: says he did apologize and he would love to talk

835
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: to Ariana because she has been the only one not

836
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: coming after him.

837
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:31,280
Speaker 2: I confused, Yeah, well, I guess because she's not publicly

838
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: coming after him on our Instagram. I don't know. I mean, clearly, well,

839
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 2: I guess because they have an to mediate their conversations.

840
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 2: So that's why I guess she's not coming after him

841
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 2: because anything she needs to say it goes through. And

842
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 2: so maybe that's just a safe space for him. Well,

843
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 2: but everyone else he has to confront. I don't know.

844
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 2: That didn't make sense now.

845
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: I think he's saying that she publicly hasn't gone on

846
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: a press tour to talk badly about him.

847
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 2: But she doesn't need to. He has everybody else doing it. Yeah,

848
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 2: I mean, she's too busy making money and being in

849
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 2: every commercial possible. She doesn't have time to bash. She's

850
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 2: on Broadway.

851
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: She didn't have time to go on and have the

852
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: guy from Shaws of Sunset come on her pod and

853
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: talk about Rachel Raquel.

854
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 2: What did you think? So when Sheena reached out to

855
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 2: him by text to say she was sorry about his

856
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: friend that had died Ari, Yeah, but it was also

857
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 2: like her podcast was released at the same time. That

858
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 2: was like brought Niema on. That was like talking about

859
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 2: all these sexual things with Raquel. I don't know.

860
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 1: I think what he's most mad about is the open

861
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: relationship comment.

862
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: Right that someone's saying that he said that, right, that

863
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 2: he said that he and Arianna had an open relationship, right,

864
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 2: and that's what he's mad about.

865
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: I think he's mad about that, and that Rachel begged

866
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: him to have begged Niema to have sex with him

867
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: on Sheena's bed. He thought that was embarrassing for Rachel

868
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: and the truth.

869
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 2: Well, I can see how all of that is very

870
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 2: muddy and very embarrassing. So I understand why if all

871
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 2: that stuff came out on a podcast at the same

872
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 2: time she's reaching out and saying, hey, I'm sorry about

873
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,760
Speaker 2: your friends, I understand how that can all get muddled.

874
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: I mean, to play Devil's advocate. There is a chance

875
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,919
Speaker 1: some people pre record their podcast, so like it could

876
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 1: have been a week prior. It could have we personally

877
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: could have been because we have to recap a show

878
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: we're watching.

879
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 2: But I know a lot of.

880
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: Podcasts like film as many as they can and release

881
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: them and release them.

882
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 2: So it was bad timing.

883
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: It could have been bad timing. I don't actually know

884
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: the answer to this. I can't say I don't think

885
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 1: Sheena is necessarily a malicious person. I think she's hurt

886
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: by all of it, and I guess I didn't fully

887
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 1: understand how much hurt. She was in about it because

888
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: I because I didn't watch the beginning of vander Pumper,

889
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: I didn't realize how long of a relationship her and

890
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: Sandval had.

891
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, they did do a recap of that and then

892
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 2: all yeah, like oh they didn't. They have known each

893
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 2: other fourteen years and shared things. And so do you

894
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 2: think she's hurt because of what he did to Ariana

895
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 2: or because he was just because he just lied and

896
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 2: he was deceitful. So is she hurt by just his

897
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 2: deceitfulness in general?

898
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: I think ultimately she's hurt by Rachel because Rachel lied

899
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: to her and then there was the restraining order, and

900
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: then there was the alleged altercation and all that stuff happened,

901
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 1: and Tom stood by Rachel knowing the truth.

902
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 2: So she felt like he chose Rachel. And I think she.

903
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 1: Felt at that time that her job could have been

904
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: compromised because remember they could not film the reunion at

905
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: the same stage, right because of the restraining order. Yes,

906
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: so like when you like, when somebody's gonna mess with

907
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: your bag, like right, Not only did she ride hard

908
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: for Rachel and do everything she can to try to

909
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: say that Rachel is not at fault. I trust her

910
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 1: sleeping in a bed with Brock like all these things.

911
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: Now she's not only you know, like it's just I

912
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: think that is ultimately what happened. And then Tom kind

913
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 1: of just throwing Sheena away made her feel sad because

914
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: I and I know it's hard to believe, but I

915
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: can struggle with people pleasing tendencies as well.

916
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 6: Really, I know, I mean, not with not with you,

917
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 6: that's fine, I'm just kidding, but I think.

918
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: That it all overall hurt her. But Tom saying, as

919
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: she's walking off and once again they're not getting anywhere,

920
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: and she couldn't even nicely say she was like they were.

921
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: She was mad that he brought her her favorite drink,

922
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: like like how would he know y'all aren't talking?

923
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 2: I know, And she's like, she's said, like three weeks,

924
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 2: it's been three weeks. I've been sober for three weeks.

925
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 2: She said it multiple times. I was like, this guy

926
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 2: could not he could not do anything right. He didn't

927
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 2: even get to chime in that I'm sober too for

928
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: Rachel right now. But I mean he takes he tries

929
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 2: to take flowers to vander Palm. That is bad. He's

930
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 2: trying to bring Sena a drink. It's like he just stands.

931
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: To just hang his head and say, I am so sorry,

932
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry for everything, and just even if

933
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: he doesn't believe it, continue on. But as Sheena's walking off,

934
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: it's like a dun dum, she said. Sandoval says that

935
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 1: he had to talk Rachel down after the podcast. He

936
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: tells Sheena the loss of their friendship has been devastating.

937
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: So in closing of this episode, do we think that

938
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: Sheena ol' cave and start to befriend Sandoval again?

939
00:49:58,680 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 2: I think so.

940
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: I think.

941
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 2: I hope so yeah. I hope so too.

942
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: I think we need we just even like I also

943
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,280
Speaker 1: want Katie to get a little real in this moment.

944
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: You're on a show with your ex husband. You're both

945
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 1: on the show, you're both paid to be on the show.

946
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: Nobody's making you do that. You're gonna have to acknowledge

947
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 1: his presence or just be okay with him being around

948
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: and not make him feel stupid for inviting you guys

949
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: to cast trips that he clearly has to do for production, right,

950
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: and not make fun of his shirt because he ironed it,

951
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: and and give him a break.

952
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 2: Give him shorts up break for the likeliness.

953
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: All right, you guys, thank you for tuning in for

954
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Speaker 1: another episode of Popping Off with Teddy and Emily.

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Speaker 2: Bye, you guys.