WEBVTT - Jason Chaffetz on Charlie Kirk Assassination - September 10th, Hour 3 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:49.040 All right, news round up, information over load hour. We 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:52.040 have terrible news if you're just joining us. Charlie Kirk 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:56.720 uh was at an event earlier today Utah Valley University, 0:00:57.440 --> 0:01:02.040 and he was shot. And Charlie Kirk is now dead 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:04.840 at the age of thirty one after the shooting at 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:09.440 this event, Turning Point USA founder CEO. He's been a 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:14.800 friend of mine personally, very hard to take an arm Utah. 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:18.640 Another friend of mine, Jason Chawitz, former congressman, was at 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:24.520 the event today. He joins us. Now, Congressman, you were there, 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:25.440 tell us what happened. 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:30.800 I mean, it was just one of the most terrific 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:34.280 days of my life. I'll remember it forever for all 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:39.240 the wrong reasons, because Charlie's a friend of ours. You 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:42.520 can't be Henry publican politics and not know Charlie Kirk 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:45.600 and be friends with him. And I had traded text 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:49.200 messages about this event he had. I went, but parts 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:53.480 of my family went. We were all there, and it's 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:56.920 a beautiful day. It's noon. He comes out. There's two 0:01:56.960 --> 0:02:00.559 thousand students or so and what's called the quad Utah 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:03.480 Valley Universities. Actually, even though we don't have a football team, 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:05.840 so nobody neally knows who they are outside of Utah, 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:09.240 but it's our state's largest university with forty thousand some 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:11.640 odd students, and. 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:15.399 It's bigger than Bringham Young, Yeah. 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:20.760 By about ten thousand. Between BYU and UVU, they're but 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:24.600 roughly one hundred thousand students, but full time equivalents about 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:27.920 seventy thousand between the two. So it's a very and 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:30.560 I'm guessing at the event there were probably ninety five 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:33.519 percent of those people were younger than the age of thirty. 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:38.720 And exactly what Charlie Kirk and turning point does, which is, 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:42.799 you know, proved me wrong and let's have a dialogue. 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:46.200 I mean, Charlie, as you know, always talked about if 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:49.440 we can't talk, then it turns to violence. And he 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:52.880 answered the first question Sean. So he comes out, he's 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:56.040 throwing out the hats, getting the crowd all riled up. 0:02:56.120 --> 0:03:03.200 They're chanting USA. They were chanting Charlie Kirk. And then 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:08.520 he sat down as he does, and in doing so, 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:12.200 the first person came to the microphone and asked him 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:16.600 questions and challenged him about religion. And he went very 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:19.360 much out of his way to say I love the 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:23.080 LDS faith, you know, predominant religion here in Utah, the 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:26.280 Church of Jesus Christ, the Latter day Saints. He said, 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:28.120 if you think I'm going to say bad things about 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:31.240 the LDS people or Mormons, I'm not going to do that. 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:34.600 But we each have our own faith journey and we 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:38.640 each need to pray. I believe in Jesus Christ. And 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:42.560 he was defending that and supporting that and saying in 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:44.720 a very personal way, and even though the guy was 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:48.240 disagreeing with him, he said, that's your you know, good 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:52.640 luck on your faith, your journey of faith. And then 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:55.920 the second person, about twenty minutes after the hour or 0:03:56.360 --> 0:04:00.280 mountain time zone twelve twenty or so, the second person 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:03.480 came up and started asking and he said, Charlie, do 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:08.360 you know, and I'm paraphrasing, how many mass shootings there 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:13.080 have been by people by transgender people? And he was 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:19.720 basically asking about transgender shootings and mass shootings. And then 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:22.400 there was a shot and it was a loud shot, 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:26.159 and I've been around guns enough to know it was 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:32.919 a firearm and a shot. I saw Charlie fall back 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:39.760 and to his left, and you know, now we've learned 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:42.520 the news that he wasn't able to survive that. But 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:46.039 the crowd when he was shot, they all kind of 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:50.159 duck down. People started screaming, and then they started running. 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:55.360 And you know what, like I said, I had family 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:59.440 members there, and three other members of our family were 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:05.880 also there, and it was scary, and and it's sad, 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:09.680 and it's and now it also makes me mad. It's 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:10.880 infuriating as well. 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:15.960 Have all the emotions, Jason, it's Lindy here. Sean had 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:17.760 to step away from one moment to take a call, 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:21.000 and I'm assuming you can understand where that call came from. 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:25.599 What you're saying is just heartbreaking. We all knew Charlie. 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:28.159 We were all friends with Charlie. We also have on 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:30.480 the line right now, Buck Sexton, who was also very 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:32.880 very close and is very close to the Trump family 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:36.000 and to Charlie and anybody like you said, who worked 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:40.360 in conservative politics. I mean, we all know Charlie and 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:42.760 he was just larger than life. 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:43.520 Buck. 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:45.960 I know we've been texting all day. We are just 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:46.839 beyond words. 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:52.960 I'm in I'm in shock. And you know I understand 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:57.360 that the country, uh you know, we had, we had 0:05:57.560 --> 0:06:00.200 our president was shot, but we knew he was he 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:03.800 was okay right away, you know, you knew he raised 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:06.839 a fist, and it was we got confirmation and Trump 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:09.400 pulled through. And I think for so many of us, 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:11.440 I mean, I know for me and many people I've 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:14.520 been texting with, we just we just thought Charlie was 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:20.360 going to pull through too, and I can't. I had 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:24.640 to have many people confer. It's still hard to believe 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:29.960 that this happened. It's a dark moment for the country. 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:34.599 I think. Unfortunately, we wake up in a different country Tomorrowlando. 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:40.679 This is going to affect many things in our lives 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:46.200 in deeply negative ways. That's there's so many thoughts that 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:48.679 I think running through all of our heads. I mean, also, 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:53.560 you know, we tear up just thinking about Charlie's wife 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:58.679 and his beautiful kid, the loss that they've had because 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:03.680 Charlie wanted to do what we all knew he was 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:06.919 so gifted at and so dedicated to, which was just 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:12.400 engaging you know Charlie. You know, Charlie haven't threatened anybody. 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:15.680 Charlie never crossed that He line. Charlie was let's talk, 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:20.840 let's discuss, And in so many ways, that's just at 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:24.720 the at the heart of how our country is even 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:28.760 able to function. And he was winning in the best 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:31.720 possible way. He was winning the culture, he was winning 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:35.400 the debate. He was leading this charge and was such 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:42.640 a powerful figure in the Trump movement for people and 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:45.240 for young people. And you know, I would tell people 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:47.880 that I would come across you know, Linda in our work, 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:49.960 you know that with young people on campus and say, oh, 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:52.640 you know, do you know Charlie Kirk And I'd be like, 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:55.560 it's yeah, oh, I've known Charlie for for a decade 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:57.680 and said oh. It was like he was such an 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:01.400 inspiration to them. And and I sit here and as 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:03.880 I'm saying all these things about him, and we're doing 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:10.600 a a hugey for Charlie. I mean, Linda, they assassinated 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:15.880 our friend. They assassinated our friend speaking in a college camps. 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:21.840 I'm I think, honestly, the thing that I feel the 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:24.120 most afraid of and the most upset with, and I 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:26.600 think both you and Jason would agree with this, is 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:30.080 it feels like there's a target on everybody's back. It 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:32.640 feels like we're in a place where when you speak 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:35.120 your mind on the right, they come at you, and 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:37.280 they come at you in a way that is frightening. 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:40.720 You know, Charlie never advocated for violence to get any 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:45.080 against anybody. He always always spoke with love, his faith 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:47.600 in Jesus Christ and his opinion. And you know what 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:50.320 he did, He opened the mic to hear everybody else's opinion. 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:53.000 I mean, I just I mean, look at you, Jason. 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:55.320 You're there with your children. This is something you can 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:58.400 take your kids to to hear open discourse and conversation 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:01.880 instead of screaming and shouting and the Antifa nonsense that 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:04.400 goes all over the place. This is a place for 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:06.760 conversation to try to understand and get to a place 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:08.680 where we can all live a better life through Christ, 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:12.520 through loving one another. And now his poor wife, Erica, 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:16.240 their children both under five. I mean, I just am 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:19.040 I think all of us feel the same way. Jason, 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:20.960 You've been amazing today. I don't know how you're doing 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:22.600 what you're doing, having been their firsthand. 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:23.559 How are your children? 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:32.480 There's scared, you know, they my kids quite frankly. You know, 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:34.760 in politics, I get to run into some of the 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:37.679 most interesting people in the world, you know, being in Congress, 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:43.320 being on Fox, I get relatives they're probably most interested 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:47.120 in seeing Donald Trump and Jarnie Kirk. And that's who 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:50.160 they're excited about. That's who. That's who they want to 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:52.680 get their picture taken with, or spend time or even 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:55.720 just say that they shook her hand. And that's why 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:58.840 I had thousands of people think about this. You have 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:03.040 thousands of people on a Wednesday, beautiful day at noon 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:07.560 to do what he is not taught in the classroom, 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:11.160 which is to have a dialogue. And as you both mentioned, 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:14.360 the message of Charlie Kirk was, look, we got to 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:16.000 be able to talk to each other. If not, it's 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:20.959 going to result in violence. But I'm still emotional, I'm 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:26.719 still I'm sure in shock of it all. But the 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:33.080 violence seems to go one way. And I'm just saying 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:36.000 that if you have a conservative voice and you want 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:39.080 to be able to express yourself and just live, love 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:42.880 your country and freedom, I know that's not the case. 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:44.680 I know there are people on all kinds of the 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:46.600 both sides of the aisle. 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:46.600 But. 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:53.679 I don't think when this chapter's, you know, written, I 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:59.160 just immediately my gut reaction. Again, I'm emotionally close to 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:03.199 this at the moment. But you think it's a coincidence, 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:05.480 is a guy comes to the microphone who's asking you 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:09.559 questions about transgender violence and shootings, and then a shot 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:11.160 rings out. 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:14.040 I don't think it's a coincidence, and I think it's 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:14.600 pretty sad. 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:18.360 What I'm frustrated with right now here in real time, 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:22.080 it's a lack of communication from local law enforcement. There 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:25.560 was a very light footprint that Charlie has a personal 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:30.520 protective detail. But we're talking a handful of people, and 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:34.520 we're talking two thousand people in a crowd in an 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:37.160 open space with no security checks. I mean, it's a 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:39.480 college campus, you know, and it's Utah. 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:42.080 We're not used to shootings. 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:46.600 Period, let alone something an assassination like this, And you 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:49.000 could go for a long long time and just not 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:53.080 have a shooting in Utah County. They just don't have it, 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:57.400 and so they got to find this shooter. There's so 0:11:57.559 --> 0:12:00.040 many video tapes rolling you tell me that don't I 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:01.040 don't know who it is yet. 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:04.520 I completely agree with you, Congressman and Buck. I know 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:06.480 you guys are getting a lot of people calling you. 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:08.240 Can I bother you to stay with us through the 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:09.959 break and for a few more words on the other 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:10.400 side here? 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:11.120 Sure? 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:30.440 Thank you. 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:35.480 Sean Hennedy. 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:05.560 The Sean Hennity Show. We just had a major storm 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:08.800 hit where my studios are and the line went down, 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:12.360 hopefully just temporarily. Buck sect Sexton is with us today. 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:15.680 You know, Buck, we both knew Charlie so well. If 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:19.920 you're just joining us today. Charlie Kirk has died at 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:22.920 the age he was shot and killed today an event 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:26.280 at Utah Valley University in a speech that he was 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:28.920 giving a turning point USA. This is what he did. 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:33.560 I mean, he built an incredible operation where thousands and 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:36.640 thousands of kids all around the country kind of had 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:40.640 a safe space in these indoctrination centers for the left wing. 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:45.559 And we don't know. The shooter is still on the loose, 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:47.040 the assassin is on the loose. 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:48.840 Buck. 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:51.160 I did have an opportunity. I did talk briefly with 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:53.280 the President. He was pretty shaken up by it, as 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:57.160 you would imagine. Charlie had a great relationship with President Trump. 0:13:57.880 --> 0:14:02.679 And it is sad in every way. He's thirty one 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:06.240 years old, was thirty one, two young children, wife, he 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:09.560 leaves behind, and you know, and then we have the 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:12.880 radical left. I just saw that, you know. JB. Pritzker 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:16.439 puts out on the shooting. Political violence, unfortunately, is ramped 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:18.200 up in this country, and I think there are people 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:20.880 who are fermenting it in this country. I think the 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:25.120 President's rhetoric often forments it. How do you go from 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:28.200 the death of an assassination of a thirty one year 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:33.200 old young man whose only fault is he is a conservative? 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:36.560 How do you go from there to saying something like 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:40.239 that within two hours of this young man dying. 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:46.880 Sean, It's sad, beyond words what's happened. It's also enraging. 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:51.600 There is something demonic that is not just within the 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:55.640 Democrat Party and the left in this country. But I think, 0:14:55.720 --> 0:15:00.400 unfortunately we have seen his ascendant and this has now 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:04.200 shown us a pattern. I mean use that word assassin, 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:06.480 and that is the word we need to understand and 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:09.800 need to utilize here. Charlie Kirk was my friend, he 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:11.680 was your friend. As you said, he was close with 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:15.920 President Trump. He was best friends with Dom Junior, the 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:16.800 President's son. 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:18.400 You know, he. 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:25.760 Was winning, he was convincing, he was bringing over the youth, 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:29.080 I mean, young people in America to the side of 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:36.760 just rationality, sanity, constitutionalism, being reasonable, and there's something deeply 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:40.080 sick and wrong with the left, and I think we 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:41.920 need you just start to understand that this is what 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:45.520 we are up against. The rhetoric that they use, calling 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:48.600 Trump a Nazi and saying all these things, and therefore, 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:52.600 by extension, saying people like you know, defaming people like Charlie. 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:56.680 There are maniacs out there who act on this stuff, 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:58.880 and they think that they're getting signals. They think that 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:04.680 they're getting the approval of the loudest and most powerful 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:08.880 voices in the Democrat Party. And I think, Michelan, you're 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:11.360 talking about a rifle shot at two hundred yards. The 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:14.960 shooter is still on the loose right now. I mean, 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:18.760 this was an assassination that is not an easy shot 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:21.200 at two hundred yards on the first shot. This was 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:24.360 planned out. This was someone who decided that they were 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:27.560 going to engage in one of the worst acts of 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:31.560 evil we have seen in American politics in decades. And 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:35.640 I'm just in shock, and I miss my friend, and 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:39.840 I feel terrible for his family. I feel terrible for 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:45.960 the people who were counting on Charlie everone in turning point, 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:51.000 and honestly, so many people across America they relied on him, 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:52.840 and they knew that he was there and they knew 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:55.720 that he was making the arguments and fighting that good fight, 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:59.440 and that he was stolen from us by an assassin's bullet. 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:03.320 We wake up, Shawn in a in a darker, uglier, 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:07.280 scarier country tomorrow, and I don't know a way around that. 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:09.480 My own family is asking me what do we do. 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:13.520 I don't have any answers. I don't think anybody does 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:16.399 right now. But this is going to have reverberations for 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:18.800 a long time and it just has made it has 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:23.160 made everything worse. And I couldn't be more upset for Charlie, 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:25.680 for his family, and for everybody who believed in him 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:27.159 and what he was doing in his mission. 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:31.280 If you think of everything that he's been so successful 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:34.080 at doing, it's it's mind numbing. It again at the 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:37.399 age of thirty one. The most repulsive part of this. 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:40.600 It's not just the JB. Pritzkers of the world. You know, 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:44.199 it wasn't even an hour from the time that he 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:48.199 was shot and over at MSDNC, you know, on the 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:51.479 Katie Ter Show, you know you have Matthew Dowd, one 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:55.479 of their political analysts, suggesting, oh, his rhetoric made him 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:59.280 a target of violence and hate speech inevitably led to 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:03.280 him being and he's one of the most divisive young 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:06.159 figures white because he's a conservative, and he goes on 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:09.399 a college campus and he offers a voice to people 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:11.320 that feel that they don't have a voice on a 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:14.240 college campus, and then to take it a step further. 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:18.520 Hateful thoughts lead to hateful words, lead to hateful actions. 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:25.080 They are rationalizing and justifying all of this. And this 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:29.280 these comments were made before we knew he was dead. 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:31.639 We knew how bad it was because we had the 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:37.919 video that showed the blood gushing from Charlie's neck, you know, 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:41.760 the second he was shot. And this is where the 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:45.560 minds of some people go. We'll take a break here, 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:47.760 we'll come back on the other side. Buck Sexton is 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:49.439 with us. We'll try and get some calls in as well. 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:52.600 We'll get our line back up as we continue Sad 0:18:52.720 --> 0:19:26.560 Day for America. All right, twenty five now till the 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:29.119 top of the hour, eight nine point one, Shawn, I 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:30.959 know a lot of you want to weigh in on 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:34.680 all of this. If you're just joining us, I'm sure 0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:39.760 the entire country knows by now that Turning Point USA 0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:44.880 founder CEO Friend of the program. Charlie Kirk was assassinated 0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:50.879 today at an event at Utah Valley University, which is 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:55.959 beyond surprising, and the shooter, the assassin, is at large. 0:19:56.600 --> 0:20:00.600 President Trump, I did speak briefly with him. The great, 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:05.239 even legendary Charlie Kirk is dead. No one understood or 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:07.680 had the heart of the youth of the US, of 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:11.480 the United States of America better than Charlie. He was 0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:14.879 loved admired by all, especially by me. He's no longer 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:18.359 with us, Malaney and my sympathies go out to his 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:22.359 beautiful wife, Erica. His family had two young children. Charlie, 0:20:22.400 --> 0:20:25.800 we love you. I can't believe the shooter is still 0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:29.480 at large, but he is. And of course the left, 0:20:29.520 --> 0:20:33.120 predictably is going out doing the things that they do. 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:38.720 Let me just play how bad it got. We didn't 0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:43.120 even know whether he had survived the assassination attempt by 0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:48.000 the time that MSDNC was saying this on the air. 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:51.199 And I think that's the environment we're in that that 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:54.679 people just you can't stop with these sort of awful 0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:57.280 thoughts you have and then saying these awful words and 0:20:57.280 --> 0:21:00.520 not expect awful actions to take place, and that's the 0:21:00.840 --> 0:21:01.960 fortunate environment we're in. 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:06.159 Charlie Kirk is a divisive figure, polarizing, lightning rob whatever 0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:07.160 term you want to use. 0:21:07.359 --> 0:21:11.960 Why Well, he's one of maga's most prominent voices online. 0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:15.840 He hosts in Your Daily Podcast. He opines on almost everything. 0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:18.560 He's been very closely aligned with the President since his 0:21:18.600 --> 0:21:21.440 initial run for office in twenty fifteen twenty sixteen, and 0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:24.840 his ties to Trump really elevated his own brand. He 0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:28.240 was really quite young as an activist when the President 0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:30.840 launched his initial campaign, and he has kind of written 0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:33.800 along with MAGA since twenty sixteen. 0:21:33.800 --> 0:21:35.960 And as we were just talking about a moment ago 0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:42.560 with Alan after one of the DOGE employees was allegedly 0:21:42.600 --> 0:21:45.320 attacked in Washington, d C. That's what Donald Trump used 0:21:45.359 --> 0:21:49.960 as a justification to send in federal troops into Washington, 0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:53.000 DC to get things under control the carjacking situation. 0:21:53.119 --> 0:21:53.760 He used that. 0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:57.000 And I know it's hard to predict the future, Mark, 0:21:57.080 --> 0:22:00.119 but you can imagine the administration using this as a 0:22:00.240 --> 0:22:01.439 justification for something. 0:22:02.800 --> 0:22:06.680 Then we have the dopey governor of Illinois, JB. Pritzker. 0:22:06.800 --> 0:22:10.720 Political violence, unfortunately has ramped up in this country. I 0:22:10.760 --> 0:22:13.920 think there are people who are fomenting it in this country. 0:22:13.960 --> 0:22:18.760 I think the President's rhetoric often foments it. It's beyond 0:22:18.840 --> 0:22:22.479 the pale, it's you know, a lot of these comments 0:22:22.520 --> 0:22:26.479 have made so cold callous. What did I say on 0:22:26.520 --> 0:22:30.920 this program after the President gave a speech before it 0:22:31.000 --> 0:22:35.200 joined such in Congress? I said that Democrats couldn't stand 0:22:35.240 --> 0:22:37.879 for the family of Lake and Riley, They couldn't stand 0:22:37.920 --> 0:22:41.560 for the family of little Joscelyn Nungary. They couldn't stand 0:22:41.600 --> 0:22:44.240 for a young man who had at the time had 0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:47.320 beaten cancer and became a Secret Service agent that night. 0:22:48.480 --> 0:22:51.920 And I said, if that's the point that people are 0:22:51.960 --> 0:22:56.680 at in this country, forget politics. You don't have a heart, 0:22:56.840 --> 0:22:59.320 you don't have a soul, you don't have a conscience. 0:23:00.200 --> 0:23:02.960 If this is where your mind goes when a thirty 0:23:03.040 --> 0:23:10.159 one year old, yeah, outspoken political commentator is assassinated at 0:23:10.240 --> 0:23:16.280 a university in Utah, there's something really dark, ugly twisted, 0:23:16.400 --> 0:23:20.879 and the missing chip it's pretty unbelievable. Buck Sexon is 0:23:20.920 --> 0:23:24.640 still with us as the Clay and Buck Show and 0:23:25.040 --> 0:23:27.600 a friend of the program, also friend of Charlie Kirk. 0:23:27.640 --> 0:23:30.399 I know this is personal for you. Buck you know, 0:23:30.440 --> 0:23:33.320 but I also know something else. You know, your scheduled 0:23:33.359 --> 0:23:36.400 to give a public speech tomorrow. If I told you 0:23:36.760 --> 0:23:40.800 the text that I'm getting from friends and family and 0:23:41.480 --> 0:23:46.119 associates about security and be careful, and you're getting the 0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:46.960 same thing, I'm. 0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:54.399 Sure Sean is disterrible assassin at two hundred yards to 0:23:54.520 --> 0:23:59.240 hit somebody in the neck. This person trained, most likely 0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:03.480 this out knew what they were doing. And you know 0:24:03.520 --> 0:24:06.280 from a from a tactical perspective, and it's still on 0:24:06.359 --> 0:24:11.399 the loose. But there's also even beyond that, there's the 0:24:11.480 --> 0:24:15.600 reality that this is not happen. This this horrible and 0:24:15.760 --> 0:24:20.399 tragic assassination of our of our friend Charlie, which is 0:24:20.480 --> 0:24:23.600 still I mean, it's just we're all in shock. I mean, 0:24:23.640 --> 0:24:26.280 I've had when when Lindo was texting me about this 0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:28.440 and we kept saying, Linda, tell me it's not confirmed. 0:24:28.600 --> 0:24:32.520 My hands were going numb, and we're sitting here, we're 0:24:32.560 --> 0:24:35.879 thinking about how to process this. But it didn't happen 0:24:35.880 --> 0:24:38.399 in a vacuum. Sean. You and I know that there 0:24:38.400 --> 0:24:42.520 were there were two assassination attempts against President Trump, but 0:24:42.520 --> 0:24:46.280 there's also been many violent attempts. If you were to 0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:49.520 go back coming from the left against people in the right. 0:24:49.560 --> 0:24:52.080 I think of the shooting that happened what in twenty 0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:54.760 eighteen tried to be a mad That guy tried to 0:24:54.760 --> 0:24:59.160 do a mass assassination of members of Republicans, specifically Republican 0:24:59.240 --> 0:25:02.399 and conservative mem of Congress yelling this is for healthcare. 0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:04.120 I mean, you and I both spoken to Senator Ram 0:25:04.160 --> 0:25:06.040 Paul about that. He was there on that day Steve 0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:11.720 Scalise got hit almost died. The left has a violence problem, 0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:15.600 a big one, and it's because they say that Trump 0:25:15.680 --> 0:25:18.040 is hitler. It's because they say that fascism is here. 0:25:18.880 --> 0:25:21.520 There is nothing like that on the right. There's nothing 0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:24.800 that exists in our political discourse that goes anywhere near 0:25:25.560 --> 0:25:30.200 the kinds of defamatory and insane statements that they make. 0:25:30.840 --> 0:25:33.880 And I think everyone's tired of Sean though. The problem 0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:35.639 I'm seeing right now for a lot of people is 0:25:36.359 --> 0:25:39.200 just trying to one process the grief but also suppress 0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:42.959 the rage. They just assassinated one of the most important 0:25:43.440 --> 0:25:47.320 political figures on the right in this country. And take 0:25:47.359 --> 0:25:49.280 apart a take a step aside for a second. He's 0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:51.199