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Speaker 1: Smell us Now, lady, welcome to Meet Eater Trivia Metater Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Good lord, it's meeting to radio live. Welcome here to

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Speaker 2: the show. Eleven am. Mountain time. Don't you just say

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Speaker 2: all this, Phil? Do you tell people what time it is?

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Speaker 2: They like, they don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's in the script every week. I mean

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Speaker 3: they could look at the clock, but it's just kind

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Speaker 3: of a way to mark place and time here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, Here's where it gets tricky, Phil, is that

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Speaker 2: they're looking at a clock because they're watching on a

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Speaker 2: computer or the phone.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so you just think it's it's redundant.

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Speaker 2: It's eleven am.

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Speaker 3: This is discussion. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: January thirtieth, Meeting at her headquarters and bos of Montana.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host today, Steven Ronello. Today I'm joined by

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Speaker 2: Brody Henderson and Maggie Hudler And are you how are

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Speaker 2: you not here?

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Speaker 4: Exactly?

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Speaker 2: Tory is not. If someone thinks Cory Calkin's series not.

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Speaker 5: He's kind of not here like Corina is often.

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Speaker 2: Not He's not here. He's not here, He's not in

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Speaker 2: the room. On today's show, we got a couple of

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Speaker 2: things coming up. So on today's show, We're gonna chat

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Speaker 2: with Rick and Marty Laguina from History Channels to Curse

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Speaker 2: of Oak Island for a couple of reasons. One they're

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Speaker 2: fellow Michiganders. That's my home state. Two they're from the

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Speaker 2: cool part of Michigan, which is the Upper Peninsula. And

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Speaker 2: three I'm riding on their shirt tails. You know, you

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Speaker 2: hear coat tails and shirttails. I don't know which is

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Speaker 2: the better. Supposed to do the shirts.

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Speaker 5: Have tails coattails? Well, sure they do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they kind Yeah, they used to man shirts hang out.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I always try to find those shirts that don't have

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Speaker 2: that exaggerated I like the straight ones. If it's two straight,

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Speaker 2: it looks goofy though yet to be careful. Uh, We're

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Speaker 2: gonna talk to those fellas because I'm riding on their

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Speaker 2: shirt tails on the History Channel and so you know

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Speaker 2: they get the you know what it is, it's like

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Speaker 2: the opposite like you think. Like the other night I

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Speaker 2: was at I went to a stand up show, right so,

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Speaker 2: and uh I went to see me and my boy

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Speaker 2: went to see Kevin Hart. And Kevin Hart like Kevin Hart,

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Speaker 2: don't come out first? Do you follow me? They have Yeah,

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Speaker 2: other dudes come out and they get everybody kind of

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Speaker 2: fluffed up, and then Kevin Hart comes out. So this

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Speaker 2: is the opposite where like these guys get the audience,

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Speaker 2: they're like the Kevin Hart and then I'm like the

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Speaker 2: follow up dude. I'm like the dude, the support is terrible.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna talk to them about that. Uh, we're

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Speaker 2: also gonna get into this most Januaries, I missed out

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Speaker 2: one time because of COVID. Every January we go down

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Speaker 2: to Hunt Kosire in Old Mexico. Uh, this year, at

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Speaker 2: the last second I had I had to bail because

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Speaker 2: my little boy had to get a knee surgery and

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Speaker 2: he was gonna be laid up and is laid up,

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Speaker 2: so I couldn't go. So we're gonna check in with

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Speaker 2: the fellows that did make it down to Mexico, Chase

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Speaker 2: and Kuzier, so I can find out what all happened.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 2: They were not feeding me any information, I think out

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Speaker 2: of respect because I couldn't be there, so they wanted

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Speaker 2: they didn't want to make me jealous. So I'm kind

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Speaker 2: of in the dark about how that all went. And

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk to Parker Bradley from Alaska fish and

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Speaker 2: game about some interesting pike behavior. We've touched on this

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Speaker 2: a couple of times in the past, but like northern

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Speaker 2: pike being in I mean, all over the damn country.

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Speaker 2: Northern pike live in lakes and rivers that they're not

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Speaker 5: And they're circumpolar, aren't they?

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, Scofier. In a Scofier's cookbook, they have

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Speaker 2: pike recipes for the European pike, for the pike they

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Speaker 2: catch over in France. Anyhow, Uh, they've always been a

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Speaker 2: that helps explain some of the mystery about how those

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna do that. Then we're gonna talk about

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Speaker 2: three most memorable fishing trips with photo backup. Then I'm

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Speaker 2: supposed to say, but before we get to all that,

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Speaker 2: what have you guys been up too lately? But not you, Cory,

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Speaker 2: you ain't here.

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Speaker 5: Maggie, you go first.

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Speaker 8: Well, first off, I didn't know it was your birthday, Steve.

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Speaker 2: It's not.

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Speaker 3: It's not. Here's the thing. So our mutual friend Spencer

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Speaker 3: Newhart told everyone who's watching the show to say happy

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Speaker 3: birthday to you. But I'm pretty sure your birthday is

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Speaker 3: in two weeks, two weeks away.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be halfway to one hundred and two and

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Speaker 2: two weeks.

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Speaker 3: So but you you've got You've got dozens of people

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Speaker 3: wishing you happy birthday, and.

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Speaker 8: The check it's nice, yeah, nice, happy early birthday.

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Speaker 2: Oh thank you. I don't know how old you are,

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Speaker 2: but dude, at this point, birthdays.

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Speaker 5: They just don't mean anything.

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Speaker 8: No.

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Speaker 2: My favorite restaurant in Bozeman is with Sabby. You know

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Speaker 2: the dudes that come in and they juggled their spatulism

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Speaker 3: Oh my kids love it there.

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Speaker 2: Well, I was there the other night for my little

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Speaker 2: boy's birthday and I was like, man, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: come here on my birthday. I'm call all my friends

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Speaker 2: and then by twenty minutes later, I'm like.

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Speaker 8: No, I'm not, that's my birthday. I'm like, ooh, I'm

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Speaker 8: going to get some oysters. I'm going to get some crabs.

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Speaker 8: I'm going to have a party and then I'm like,

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Speaker 8: then I have to share all this delicious food. I

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Speaker 8: think it's going to be a feast for about four

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Speaker 2: So anyways, what's everybody off to?

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Speaker 8: I just moved into a new house that my boyfriend

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Speaker 8: and I have been building over the last nine months.

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Speaker 8: It's awesome.

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Speaker 2: This is your shattered kneecap, hockey playing, sheep guiding boyfriend.

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Speaker 8: Hold on together about three years, but we've known each

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Speaker 8: other pretty much our whole lives.

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Speaker 2: We think you want to get married? Are you like

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Speaker 2: against marriage?

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Speaker 8: I'm not against it. People just keep asking me about it.

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Speaker 8: I'm like, hey, we just built a house. Like, we

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Speaker 8: don't got money for a big party.

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Speaker 2: Right, Guys, got your car? Heead of your horse though, too.

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Speaker 5: That's a big move to Like, No, buy and build

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Speaker 5: a house together when you're not hitching what's his last name?

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Speaker 2: You can switch out?

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Speaker 8: Hell? No, I already told.

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Speaker 2: Him to switch out. Man, my wife never switched out.

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Speaker 2: It kills me. Do you really want to not switch out?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 2: My daughter never switch out.

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Speaker 8: But look on the internet and see how many other

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Speaker 8: Maggie Hudlows there are.

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Speaker 2: Well, they can people can track you down.

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Speaker 8: There's not other Maggie hudlows Maggie Hudler. There's a pile

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Speaker 8: of Maggie Olsen's out there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: No, I'll never switch.

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Speaker 2: I sit both sides, Like I said, I wish my

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Speaker 2: you gotta hang on your name. So it's like I

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Speaker 2: just it's very you know, depends.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so you know, one day we'll probably have a big,

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Speaker 8: awesome party and get hitched. But now I'll never change

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Speaker 8: my name. Something I gotta I gotta hang on too.

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Speaker 2: Let's transition to Brody Brody, you're married a long time?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Actually that place into what I've been up to lately.

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Speaker 5: This is like, like this time of year is kind

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Speaker 5: of hard for me. I get mild seasonal effective disorder whatever.

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Speaker 2: My dog has that.

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Speaker 5: And my wife says, I get real cranky.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no dragons a slave right now.

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Speaker 5: No, but we're like emerging from that. It's starting. Days

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Speaker 5: cool stuff to do soon. So I haven't been up

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Speaker 5: to too much other than like like planning. I don't

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Speaker 5: know if you do this, but I feel like it's

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Speaker 5: important when you got kids like you really got to

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Speaker 5: kind of plan your year out, like hunting fish and wise,

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Speaker 5: because you know, with those kids, there's always like conflicting

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Speaker 5: things going on. Sure, so I've been mapping stuff out

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Speaker 5: on the calendar, which is always fun.

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Speaker 2: That's good.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so I don't have kids to worry about planning about.

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Speaker 8: But my sister explained it as happily financially in with

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Speaker 8: three dogs. That's my situation.

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Speaker 2: But the house you guys fixed up, was it a

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Speaker 8: No? We built it?

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Speaker 2: Oh I thought you meant you read it? No guilt scratch.

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Speaker 8: It's uh. It's basically a big, a big ass shop

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Speaker 2: So to your palms a.

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Speaker 8: Little bit. I've spent a lot of time. We did

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Speaker 8: But it looks really nice. We got a nice big

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Speaker 8: walnut butcher block in the center of the kitchen, and

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Speaker 8: the garage has five huge doors to pull throughs. Oh really, Yeah,

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Speaker 8: it's a it's a giant garage. That's we gotta have

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Speaker 8: places to put the boats and and all the fun stuff.

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Speaker 8: And now we're just trying to organize ours and garbage.

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Speaker 2: So he got well, congratulations.

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Speaker 8: Thanks.

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Speaker 2: You know the James Gang when they used to rob

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Speaker 2: this is legend. I don't know if it's true. When

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Speaker 2: they used to rob trains, they check your hands. If

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Speaker 2: you had callouses, they let you slide because they were dandies.

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Speaker 2: If you didn't have callous as you were getting robbed.

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Speaker 8: I get the most callouses in the summer from rowing

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Speaker 8: the drift boat.

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Speaker 2: Now, if I saw those boys coming, I'd be scratching.

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Speaker 2: How's that? Phil?

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Speaker 3: That was some lovely banter. Guys, you knocked it out

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Speaker 3: of the park.

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Speaker 2: Okay, are we ready to switch over?

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Speaker 3: Let's do it?

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Speaker 2: Okay, do we got Rick and Marty or Rick and

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Speaker 2: Marty here.

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Speaker 9: We're here.

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Speaker 2: First off, man, tell me a little bit. Give me

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Speaker 2: a quick snapshot of growing up in the up did

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Speaker 2: you guys? Had you guys family been up there a

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Speaker 2: long time? Were they newcomers or how that come about?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 4: First, wait, wait, I got to wish you a happy birthday. Oh,

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Speaker 4: thank you, and everybody else who's confused.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you go ahead, Rick, Well, it was you know,

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Speaker 10: kind of like you know what you do in your life.

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Speaker 10: You're outside a lot, you know, you've got your friends,

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Speaker 10: you engage in whatever activity you want to do. It

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Speaker 10: was sports and in the woods and fishing and a

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Speaker 10: We always have a plan moving forward, but you know,

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Speaker 11: Well, first of all, in twenty years I'd like to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what are some of the latest Tell people

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Speaker 10: Well, for me, it's you know, it's kind of a

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Speaker 2: Now I gotta ask as well, what, uh, I know,

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Speaker 4: Off shore? I think you could be hitting it?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, there's all kinds of fishing off shore on the

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Speaker 2: So you know, there's not like a resident I don't whatever.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, there's a resident deer population.

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Speaker 2: No. I like the eels for sure. So you got

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Speaker 4: I think.

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Speaker 10: So I can tell you what you can do is

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Speaker 10: And you've probably been there in New Brunswick and in Newfoundland. Yep,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I've hunted up I've hunted up there before

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Speaker 2: And meet you guys for real and uh and talk

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Boys, thanks for taking the time to come on the show. Man,

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 9: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: That's great. All right.

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Speaker 10: I just want to tell you that our nephews, Peter

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Speaker 2: Oh in your show. Tell him, I said, thanks, And

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Speaker 11: Man.

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Speaker 2: Good luck with your good luck with your hunt, good

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Speaker 2: luck with your show, good luck with yours. All right,

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Speaker 2: Mexico Cops hunt check in with Randall and Seth. That's

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Speaker 3: Why don't we ask them?

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Speaker 2: Are you guys live? We're just like a trick Mexico.

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Speaker 9: Aloha me and migos mayamo rojo grande. All right?

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Speaker 2: Was the kate was? Were they rotting hard? I don't

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Speaker 2: rotting grab ass action? Uh? Yes, and no I recognized

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Seth and I were on a pretty uh pretty

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Speaker 2: Got it? Uh so? So hard ass grab ass rought

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Speaker 7: We got four so far, Yanni's Today is our last

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Speaker 2: It's good to see you guys. I miss you, guys.

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Speaker 2: I've been dominating the question here, so I'm gonna let

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Speaker 5: Did you get some good ones?

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Speaker 7: So, Uh, Peter hal from Zig is down here, which

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Speaker 9: I can test that out.

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Speaker 1: But he he shot a giant.

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Speaker 7: Nice It's definitely the biggest one I've seen come off

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Speaker 2: And you folks watching from home, you need to understand

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Speaker 9: And he's got a he's got a split G two

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Speaker 1: There you go, that's Cal's buck blade it out.

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Speaker 2: That is ye go back to that big one. I'm

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Speaker 9: Well, we Seth and Giannis and I were on the

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Speaker 9: really made himself visible for a significant period of time.

444
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:09,200
Speaker 9: I think Col's buck is just sort of like you know, appeared.

445
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 9: He was betted the first night when you guys saw him.

446
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,679
Speaker 7: Yeah, we saw uh, we spotted calsbuck on the first evening.

447
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,199
Speaker 1: It wasn't even like our first hunt day.

448
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 7: We just happened to get down here and have enough

449
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,399
Speaker 7: time to run up on the hill and do some

450
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 7: glasses and we and Cal almost killed him on the

451
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:30,920
Speaker 7: first evening, but he caught up with him two days later.

452
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 9: And Yeah, a lot of the bucks, most of the

453
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 9: bucks that were se like I saw ten or twelve

454
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 9: bucks yesterday, Wow, all of them. All of them were chasing,

455
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 9: but just no big bucks. And the big bucks that

456
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 9: we've seen a lot of them are really broken, and

457
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,439
Speaker 9: that seems to be We've heard like this year, for

458
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 9: whatever reason, a lot of the big bucks are broken.

459
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 9: M It doesn't bother me, but some people either. Yeah.

460
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 9: Uh So then Seth and I both got deer on

461
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 9: back to back days, I think Tuesday and Wednesday maybe

462
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:12,400
Speaker 9: yep or something like that, and that was fantastic. Yeah,

463
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 9: well ours are not nearly as impressive, but we're both

464
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:19,680
Speaker 9: very happy. They're like, you know, maighties low nineties deer,

465
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 9: and yeah, I might shot at like to two hundred

466
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 9: and fifty yards. He was chasing a dough with another

467
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 9: smaller buck and they were just kind of pinballing around,

468
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 9: and he popped up and got a shot at him,

469
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 9: and then Seth had a real uh search for his buck.

470
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

471
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 7: I spotted my buck and made a move on him,

472
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 7: lost him like you typically do down here, and popped

473
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 7: up on this little bumps to try to get a

474
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,679
Speaker 7: good advantage of this hillside where he was, and he

475
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 7: ended up betting with a dough about one hundred and

476
00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 7: twenty yards from where I was, and I actually had

477
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 7: to in order to shoot him, I had to leave

478
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 7: my bump that I was on and make a big

479
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 7: loop around and shoot him at like three hundred yards

480
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 7: where I could actually see him.

481
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 2: Oh God, it house jealous right now? Can you tell jealous?

482
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 8: Well?

483
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,919
Speaker 9: The uh, I mean, the big story this week, I

484
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 9: think has been the wind. Everybody's been telling me that

485
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 9: it's usually rather calm here, but we've been getting gusts

486
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 9: up to like thirty and pretty steady fifteen ten to

487
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 9: fifteen mile an hour winds all week. So there have

488
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 9: been some long cold days and the big stablized binoculars

489
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:45,199
Speaker 9: have really, uh oh yah been a lifesaver because and

490
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 9: I hadn't I'd messed around with them like out of

491
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 9: the truck or out of the house, but I really

492
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 9: hadn't had them out in these kind of conditions. And

493
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 9: you throw those things on the tripod, and even if

494
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 9: it's blowing your tripod around, your image is like crystal clear.

495
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 9: So I've I've oftentimes like just had to take my

496
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 9: regular binos down and throw up the stabilized ones just

497
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 9: for the wind factor.

498
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 2: Of Yeah. Then the next thing you got to figure

499
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 2: out is how to make your eyeballs not water.

500
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 9: Oh, the corners of my eyes are chafed badly. A

501
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 9: lot of tears a lot of sunscreen, a lot of wind.

502
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 9: It's not a good recipe for my optical health.

503
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 8: Well, the stabilized bos are cool. What other fun sig

504
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 8: stuff have you guys been messing around with down there?

505
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 9: Well, there's one, there's one item that we're told not

506
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 9: not to What happens down in Mexico stays in Mexico.

507
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 9: Great Toby Keith, but pretty neat stuff. We we also

508
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 9: have used the the range finding binos. Yep, are those

509
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 9: the kilow tens maybe something? And uh, but yeah, those

510
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,719
Speaker 9: those are pretty amazing for because they have the uh

511
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 9: they have the wind calculation dialed in. So yeah, when

512
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 9: we're sitting out there glass and stuff and range and stuff,

513
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 9: you can plug in like a ten mile an hour

514
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 9: value and it'll give you your correction in minutes of angles,

515
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 9: so or mills. But we're shooting both the guns we

516
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 9: have are shooting minutes of angles. So that's been pretty

517
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 9: fun to see and like check that against the dope

518
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 9: on your phone.

519
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: And yeah, there's been a lot of chatter about wind calls.

520
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 9: Yes, a lot of chatter about wind calls. I was

521
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 9: very grateful to shoot my dear at two hundred and

522
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 9: twenty five yards or whatever it was, because I don't

523
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 9: think I would have really wanted to stretch it out

524
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 9: very far in those conditions.

525
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 2: I got I got two more questions. When I go

526
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 2: down there, you always find that the Bocarrols, the ba Carrols,

527
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 2: Buck Harrols, buck Harrows. No matter what deer you bring back,

528
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 2: they tell you that no, no, no, no, no, no, that's

529
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,719
Speaker 2: not him. Yeah, been happening.

530
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 9: Well, I haven't talked with them much. Cal has been

531
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 9: our primary liaison to the Lacas. His Spanish is actually remarkable. No,

532
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 9: he does good, although he doesn't do like the performative

533
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 9: accent that a lot of people do when they speak

534
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 9: a foreign language. It just sounds like Cal. He speaks

535
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 9: in the same cadence with just different words. But we

536
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 9: did have a couple of reports of bucks that the

537
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 9: cowboys had seen, and you know, had the hills that

538
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 9: they'd seen him on, And there is even a set

539
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 9: of sheds from this year near the house that we're

540
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 9: looking for that buck. But we have not been able

541
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 9: to turn up any of the the famous cowboy bucks.

542
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, here's my other question.

543
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 9: No, No, I was gonna say the cat. I think

544
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,479
Speaker 9: the Viccaro's cat is having a real field day. Whenever

545
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 9: we bring back a deear, it's like fighting us for

546
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 9: little strips of hide and meet. And that's kind of

547
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 9: also been our primary mode of entertainment is the cat's

548
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 9: increasingly aggressive behavior around any sort of meat.

549
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,959
Speaker 2: Randall, I need to share with you two comments that

550
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 2: have come in. I'm gonna build you up and I'm

551
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 2: gonna bring you down. Sure, there's a guy that says

552
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 2: you look like Jim Harrison, followed up by a guy

553
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 2: that says you look homeless.

554
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 6: So I.

555
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 5: Did Jim Harrison ever spend time as a homeless person.

556
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 2: If you're gonna look like Harrison, you need to take

557
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 2: a beer bottle and gouage one of your eyes so

558
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 2: it doesn't work right, which is what happened to him.

559
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

560
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 9: She said it looked like a Civil warrying actor in

561
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 9: the photo and said that I took that to me

562
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 9: and I need to cut my hair.

563
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 2: I got another question for you. You know how I couldn't

564
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 2: go to my boy had to have knee surgery. Well,

565
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:55,360
Speaker 2: thanks for asking how he's doing.

566
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 9: Oh I I was communicating uh with Jannison. We were

567
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 9: getting updates, We were we were all sitting around the

568
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,719
Speaker 9: table the other day and we Yanni, you were texting

569
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 9: me Steve, and then Yanni was like, we were asking

570
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 9: for updates through our Uh.

571
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, we're we're all asking how how Maddy was doing.

572
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 2: Funny because none of those they were all unfulfilled.

573
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 9: I did. I did text Katie. I did text Katie

574
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 9: to see how the surgery went.

575
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 2: Well, you went straight to my you went straight to

576
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 2: my you went straight to my woman.

577
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 9: You're a busy man.

578
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, that's cool, that's cool. Anybody else, Yeah.

579
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 5: I've heard enough.

580
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,479
Speaker 2: How long do you guys want to talk for We're

581
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 2: getting bored.

582
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 9: Oh we did. We did want to mention that yesterday

583
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 9: Jannis ate eleven or twelve burritos.

584
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 6: Record so we.

585
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 9: Got blowney sandwich is the day before and he ate

586
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 9: his at eleven and then spent the rest of the

587
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 9: day talking about how he could have had more than

588
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 9: one blooney sandwich. So the next day he took six

589
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 9: burritos for lunch and he gave me one, but he

590
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 9: had two at breakfast and I think three at dinner.

591
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 9: So that would yeah, that would probably make maybe it. Yeah,

592
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 9: that's like ten or eleven, so Anyway, the tortillas have

593
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 9: been thin, so Janni's consumed twenty some tortillas yesterday.

594
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 2: Were doubling rand. We got another guy saying, you just

595
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 2: look like you're from Ohio.

596
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 9: No, that's true that I'll take that as a high compliment.

597
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 9: Thank you, Chase. That's lovely.

598
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 2: Hey, you know what about being from Ohio. I don't

599
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 2: know if you ever read the right stuff, but there's

600
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 2: something steely about Ohio. Dudes. It's like what you want

601
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 2: when you're trying to man a spaceship. Yep, they want

602
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 2: to lean. They want it leaning into Ohio.

603
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 9: There's something there's there's a rich soil.

604
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 2: All right, Well, good luck tell Jannie, I said, good luck.

605
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 2: I wish I could be there. In all seriousness. Miss

606
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 2: you guys terrible uh yeah, you know all that kind

607
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 2: of stuff.

608
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 9: We'll see you very soon.

609
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 2: All right, thanks Boddy, see you guys. Yaas was that

610
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 2: long enough?

611
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 3: How are you doing on Steve? You are you're doing

612
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 3: incredible schedule?

613
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 2: Yes, oh so now we take time for listener feedback.

614
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 3: That's right, dude.

615
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 2: I'm mostly no, no, not to hack on the boys there,

616
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 2: but I'm I'm mostly excited about the northern pike deal.

617
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:32,239
Speaker 3: Oh he's coming up.

618
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 2: No, I don't want to know. I'm saying I want

619
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 2: to jump to it. Let's do some well, how you've

620
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 2: been hanging on this part?

621
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 3: The listener feedback, well, the The idea is throughout the show,

622
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 3: people can ask questions in the live chat. I bookmark

623
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 3: the ones I think are are good or could open

624
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 3: up some interesting conversation. So if we haven't gotten a

625
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 3: lot of questions, guys, this might be Steve's last time here,

626
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 3: and who knows, like you, you should feel lucky. So

627
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 3: if you have questions for Steve, get him in here

628
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 3: right now, because I don't know what he's gonna be

629
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 3: coming down here all the time.

630
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 5: Might be your last time. It's like you're dying or.

631
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 3: You're you're just you're you're a busy gal.

632
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna start coming here all the time.

633
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 3: We would love that. Yeah, people, people want to see it.

634
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 3: Let's see, we got to start with a lighter one.

635
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 3: Mogre is asking a question for Steve. Hi, when you're

636
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 3: not participating in trivia or radio live, how closely do

637
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 3: you follow the events during your travels? Do you keep

638
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 3: up with the shows by watching or listening to them.

639
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 3: I have a feeling I know the answer to this question,

640
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 3: but I just thought, you know, people, the people would

641
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 3: like to know.

642
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 2: I listened to a lot of stuff. I watch bits

643
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 2: of a lot of stuff, but I mostly talked every buddy.

644
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 3: That's what I like to do, is talk to every buddy.

645
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 3: Probably a better use of your time.

646
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 8: Uh.

647
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 3: Question for Steve from John did the stolen cooler of

648
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 3: frozen fish ever get resolved?

649
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: No, it's still it's just gone, dude. Okay, someone's licking

650
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 2: their lips on that fish or they were, but no.

651
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 5: Not going on a couple of years now, isn't it.

652
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: Do you know what's hilarious? Remember we were talking about

653
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 2: so I shouldn't I shouldn't say this about my kid,

654
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 2: but my older kid, my older boy, when we were

655
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 2: talking about remember we talking about getting that lie detector

656
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 2: test down here. So he kind of got in a

657
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 2: bunch He got in a bunch of trouble. Okay, he

658
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 2: was telling I shouldn't air in his laundry like this,

659
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 2: but he was telling his mom and dad a phib Okay,

660
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: so his mom phibbs to get the truth. She says,

661
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: I'm taking you down to the office because your dad

662
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 2: got that lie detector, So you tell me right now

663
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 2: what happened. And he's just like he just lets it

664
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 2: all out. And just the other night we like finally

665
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 2: it came up. We finally said no, there is no

666
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: lie Detector's.

667
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 5: That's good.

668
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 2: There was like lies to get him to tell the truth,

669
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 2: which is smart.

670
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 6: You know.

671
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 8: Get on you, Katie.

672
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 3: Let's see here.

673
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 2: You said you're giving soft babbles. What's an example of hardball?

674
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 3: This isn't a hard ball, but this one actually could

675
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 3: could open up to some discussion from Kyle. What do

676
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 3: y'all do about cleaning brain matter from a skull in

677
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 3: the field to transport to or from CWD areas across

678
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 3: a home county?

679
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 2: Stir it up with a screwdriver, Stir it up super

680
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: good with a screwdriver, and put a high pressure hose

681
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: in there.

682
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 5: Give it a few good shakes.

683
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 2: We know, Yeah, you give it a couple of shakes. Yeah,

684
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 2: there you go. It's it's like, you know, if you

685
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 2: stick with it, you can get that brain pan pretty clean.

686
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 2: Right on, this could what's a real hard question.

687
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 3: We haven't gotten really a really hard one yet, but

688
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 3: if you guys want to speak to this because I

689
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 3: don't think you ever really have, and I think you

690
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 3: guys could could talk thoughtfully about it. Question for Stephen Brody,

691
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 3: y'all post a lot of pictures of hunting fishing with

692
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 3: your kids, which is great. Have you ever thought about

693
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 3: making videos featuring your kids? My kids love watching other

694
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 3: kids hunting videos.

695
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 2: Man, I think about it all the time. I'd love

696
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 2: to do it, but me and my wife made a decision,

697
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 2: like if you noticed vir sea pictures of my kids,

698
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 2: we just had to find. We had to find, like

699
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 2: we had to make a rule for ourselves so that

700
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 2: it wasn't a question all the time about how much

701
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 2: exposure to give to our kids. And we eventually made

702
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 2: a rule. It seems arbitrary, but it works for us,

703
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 2: Like we don't show our kids' faces on stuff. It

704
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 2: seems goofy, but like wound up making it simple, you

705
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 2: know what I mean. In the other day, I even

706
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 2: asked my I would had a picture of my kids

707
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 2: when they were babies. And I said to my wife, like, hey,

708
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 2: do you mind if I post this thing when the

709
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: kids are babies that I mean, you know, they don't

710
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 2: look like that anymore? And she said, well, no, because

711
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 2: we have an agreement.

712
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, you've done a good job of sticking to it.

713
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have. But it hurts because I'd love to

714
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: be able to make videos with them, but I don't

715
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 2: want to, like I do. I don't want to drag

716
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 2: them into something, you know, Like it's just hard for me,

717
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 2: Like I need them to get old enough to make

718
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 2: the decision.

719
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 5: There's also that like there's one thing, like making a

720
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 5: TV show or whatever is one thing, but then like

721
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 5: just making like videos, yeah, for yourself, Like we do

722
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 5: that all the time, but like making a show is

723
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 5: hard and it gets in the way, like it would

724
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 5: not that you couldn't do it.

725
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 8: But there's a great episode of Tony hunting Bear with

726
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 8: his daughter Austin if you want to check that out.

727
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 2: Yep, Hey, listen, I don't have any like I have.

728
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 2: I'm all for it. And a big thing that informed

729
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 2: us on it is years ago we had to have

730
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 2: like the FBI got involved, Like years ago, we had

731
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 2: something happen that alarmed us and they had to go

732
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 2: after a dude and like really went after a guy

733
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 2: hard about saying a comment, you know, about our kids.

734
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 2: And then from then on that changed our whole attitude. Man,

735
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 2: it was like someone like an animal rights dude, and

736
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 2: so it just it just spooked us, you know.

737
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, well yeah, I mean I'd love to see us

738
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 5: make a show with some kids hunting, and it'd be

739
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 5: great if we do that at some point.

740
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just didn't like the thought of some like

741
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 2: some animal rights freak or whoever targeting my kids because

742
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 2: it's something that they know about me. Is just like

743
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 2: upset and at times I'm just like a little I

744
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 2: feel a little like maybe overexposed in that way.

745
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 8: That's totally reasonable.

746
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll do one more here and save some words

747
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 3: for the end of the show. Sam's asking is there

748
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 3: any animal you were excited to hunt and eat but

749
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 3: were let down when you finally tried it, or any

750
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,479
Speaker 3: animal that you thought that wasn't really worth it after

751
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 3: you tried it.

752
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 2: You made it name.

753
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, remember you guys shot those You guys

754
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 5: shot a bunch of those big old caribou several years ago.

755
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 5: Kenyan and Dura were there. Yeah. Yeah, I was a

756
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 5: little disappointed in the shanks with the because you think

757
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 5: about how many miles or in those shanks, Holy shit,

758
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 5: they take a long time to break down. Oh, multi

759
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 5: day breaks, and just the meat in general. It's not

760
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 5: that it's bad, it's just you stack it up against

761
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 5: like elk or it's just not No.

762
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 2: I'd rather I'd wait, rather eat Muldier than cava. Yeah,

763
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 2: I'll tell you. One of the ones that was most

764
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 2: disappointing to me is while back we flayed I really

765
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 2: wish we had we played a bunch of shovel nose sturgeon.

766
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 5: I remember you talking about that.

767
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, because one the yield is so low, so you

768
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 2: kind of get this cool looking fish, you clean him,

769
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 2: and you don't have ship, and then what you do

770
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 2: have doesn't taste that good. I've never laid a finger

771
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 2: on now. It just pop them off, you know. Just

772
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 2: a real disappointment because the the the low yield was

773
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 2: already enough to turn me off, but then the taste was.

774
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 5: Another one for me was Jack Rabbits, There no no

775
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 5: go ahead and each his own.

776
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 2: You have dumb opinions, free country cool.

777
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 3: If you want to get to the pike, we've got

778
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 3: Parker waiting in the in the green room.

779
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Brod, you want to handle this interview?

780
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 5: Sure?

781
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brody's an invasive pike expert. He used to live

782
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 2: at an invasive pipe pod.

783
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I love those things.

784
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 6: Are we there?

785
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's Parker.

786
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 5: Hey Parker, how's it going?

787
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 6: Hey, good Harry, y'all doing great?

788
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 5: Is it cold up there?

789
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 12: You know, it's the coldest day we've had this winter

790
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 12: so far, about minus fifteen.

791
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 5: Where are you at right now?

792
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 6: I'm in Palmer, so about our north of Anchorage.

793
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 5: Yep, yep, yep. Cool. So we'll get to the pike

794
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 5: in a second. But you want to give us a

795
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 5: rundown of what you do for a fishing game, like

796
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 5: what you're Yeah, sure.

797
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 12: So I'm a fisheries biologist with the Alaska Department of

798
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 12: Fishing Game and my job is primarily focused on invasive

799
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 12: species in this region. That's primarily invasive Northern Pike, but

800
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 12: that could be. You know, we've dealt with the host

801
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 12: of other several species that have turned up here that

802
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 12: shouldn't be here and we handle that.

803
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 5: Cool.

804
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: So, hey, Brody, while you're interviewing him, can you ask

805
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 2: if he knows my brother Danny.

806
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 5: So there's this guy Danny Bolton and Anchorage Danny Bolton.

807
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 5: There's this guy Danny Runella. You know him down at

808
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 5: Anchorage did you know these guys know each other?

809
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 2: Maybe I knew they knew each other, but I'm not

810
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: positive they knew each other. Yeah, he's my brother's a

811
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 2: fisheries biologist. I thought maybe you guys ran neto each other.

812
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 2: Continue the interview.

813
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's a small world in the fisheries biology realm

814
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 12: up here.

815
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, So this study came out, some people may

816
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 5: have seen it in the news. That's where I found it,

817
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 5: and we had talked about it like in the past

818
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 5: recently here at media. But can you kind of give

819
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 5: like the basic rundown of what this study found and

820
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 5: how they they were able to come to the conclusion

821
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 5: that they came to.

822
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you bet so.

823
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 12: Quick background for your listeners. Pike are actually native to

824
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 12: a majority of Alaska, more than northern and western regions.

825
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 12: But they were introduced here to the south central region

826
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 12: waters that flow into cook Inlet Gulf of Alaska. They

827
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 12: were introduced by a person in the nineteen fifties and

828
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 12: they've spread to you know, over one hundred water bodies

829
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 12: in this region since then. But you know, so we're

830
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 12: trying to keep tabs on where these pike are spreading

831
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 12: in the region and we've been doing eradication projects on

832
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 12: the Kena Peninsula.

833
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 5: What does that entail, Like, how are you trying to

834
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 5: get rid of them? Because like, yeah, I used to

835
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,439
Speaker 5: live in an area in Colorado where they were doing that.

836
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,479
Speaker 5: They're trying to get rid of them on the Yampa River,

837
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 5: and they'd knock them back, then they'd come back. They'd

838
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 5: knock them back, then they'd come back. It's like just

839
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 5: an ongoing They can never seem to like eradicate.

840
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 12: Them, right, So it's it's kind of tough to get

841
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 12: over that hump. But a lot of what we do

842
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 12: is aggressive netting, and that's called suppression projects, where we

843
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 12: just try to kill as many as we can. But

844
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 12: if we actually want to eradicate them, then we often

845
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 12: go and use a chemical called rotino. It's a fish

846
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 12: management tool that you know is used across the US,

847
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 12: and that's what we've done heavily on the Kina to

848
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 12: eradicate him from there. But netting is often very common,

849
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 12: and like you're saying, it's tough to get ahead.

850
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 5: Of them, yep. So so back back to the study.

851
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw a question just pop up. How are

852
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 2: the pikes spreading?

853
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 5: Yep?

854
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 2: Someone asked that he's in luck.

855
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 5: We're about to find out.

856
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 12: So they're spreading, well really two mechanisms. Now that they're

857
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 12: in this region, people still move them around. We have

858
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 12: documentation of that. And then you know, once they're in

859
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 12: an open system, they're free to swim where they want, right.

860
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 12: And so one thing that we thought was some of

861
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 12: these rivers flowing into cook Inlet, which is brackish water.

862
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 6: We thought that was most likely.

863
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 5: That's a nice one.

864
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 12: But we had some pike that showed up in a

865
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 12: remote place on the Kena Peninsula that it we don't

866
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 12: know how they got there. Didn't make sense for someone

867
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 12: to go through an extensive effort to get them to

868
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 12: this remote place, but it has a very short connection

869
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,479
Speaker 12: to cook Inlet. And so one thing that we did

870
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 12: we wanted to explore if we're going to invest money

871
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 12: into getting rid of these pike from this drainage, we

872
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 12: want to know how they got there and prevent that

873
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 12: from happening again. So we did some sampling in this lake,

874
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 12: Vogel Lake, and we caught one really large female along

875
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 12: with a handful of other smaller pike. And one thing

876
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 12: that's a really neat technology in the world of fisheries

877
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 12: is the odalith of the fish.

878
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 6: So that's the.

879
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 12: Inner earbone calcified structure. Biologists used that often for aging fish.

880
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 12: There's a good picture of it there, but what it

881
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 12: also can be used for. It's basically a chemical fingerprint

882
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 12: of the water that that fish has lived in throughout

883
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 12: its life. So you can cut that otlith in half

884
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 12: and it grows, you know, on the outside, cal calcium

885
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 12: building up on the outside as it grows. If you

886
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 12: cut that in half, you expose the core when that

887
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 12: fish was born, and then the edge represents when you

888
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 12: kill that fish. So we can send this otolith to

889
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 12: a lab. We have one in Fairbanks that does this.

890
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 12: They look at the chemical composition of that otolith from

891
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 12: birth to death. And what's interesting is water bodies often

892
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 12: have unique chemical signatures, specifically with stronium isotopes, and that's

893
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 12: what we're looking at. So the marine environment has a

894
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 12: pretty particular strownium isotope signature. And so we took the

895
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 12: otolith from that really large pike and measure the stronium

896
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 12: from birth to death of that fish. And what we

897
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 12: found is that the center of that otolith where that

898
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 12: fish was born did not match the water that we

899
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 12: caught it in. Then about two years of age, it

900
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 12: had a signature signature consistent with being in a marine environment,

901
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 12: and then the signature matched.

902
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 6: The water that we caught that fish in. So basically

903
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 6: what that told us is that.

904
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 12: Fish came from somewhere else, swam through the brackish water

905
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 12: and then ended up in this Vogel lake here where

906
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:12,720
Speaker 12: we caught it. And once we kind of had proof

907
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 12: of that occurring, we got suspicious of this happening in

908
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 12: other places.

909
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 6: For example, and Anchorage.

910
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 12: We have a couple of lakes where we thought this

911
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 12: might have occurred, and indeed we did catch a couple

912
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 12: of pike that had these signatures as well. And so

913
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 12: that's what this study was kind of based on these

914
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 12: three different populations that we think got established by pike

915
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 12: swimming through the marine environment mostly just brackish water, not

916
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 12: full salt water.

917
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 2: So they're able to make those trips, That's what you

918
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 2: just kind of answer my question as you finished your

919
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 2: last response. But they're able to make those trips just

920
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 2: staying in brackish water, Like like, how long do you

921
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 2: think one could last and open salt or do you

922
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 2: think that would kill.

923
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 6: It, so I think that would kill it.

924
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 12: We a couple of years ago we did a salinity

925
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 12: trial where we actually put pike in known salinity tots

926
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 12: and measured to see how long they would live. And

927
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 12: so we tested various gradients and our highest concentration we

928
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 12: tested was about twenty eight parts per thousand. For reference,

929
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 12: about thirty five is considered fully marine, and at twenty

930
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 12: eight they lived maybe like seven or eight hours on

931
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 12: the average. They can't tolerate fully marine waters and for

932
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:34,959
Speaker 12: very long, but that lower brackish concentration around seven or ten.

933
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 12: There's actually a pike population in the Baltic Sea that

934
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,240
Speaker 12: they just lived there, and that's at about seven parts

935
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 12: per thousand. So the fact that they can kind of

936
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 12: traverse through some of this low brackish water is not

937
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 12: that surprising. But you know, cook Inlet it's a pretty

938
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 12: hostile environment. We have some of the largest tides in

939
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 12: the world, like thirty foot tide swings very glacially turbid.

940
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 12: We got big glacial rivers that are pumping into it,

941
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 12: so visibility is poor, really strong current, so it's you know,

942
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 12: not what you would think of when you think of

943
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 12: where pike would typically live, so it's you know, they

944
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 12: can live just probably for a little bit in this environment.

945
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 5: Are are they traveling or are you able to determine

946
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 5: like how far they're traveling, Like does this only happen

947
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 5: where like two river estuaries are pretty close together, or

948
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 5: are they yeah distance.

949
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 12: We can't tell exactly where they came from. The most

950
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 12: likely source is this is sit in a river and

951
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 12: if that's the case, you know Vogel Lake where one

952
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 12: of these studies was based on, that's about eighteen miles

953
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 12: if the fish was to swim perfectly straight, you know,

954
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 12: from anchorage. If it made the trip from this is Sittina,

955
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 12: that's like fifteen miles, so not really that far. And

956
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 12: we think a lot of this movement's likely limited to

957
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 12: the upper part of cook Inlet to where we have

958
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 12: these you know, brackish waters.

959
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,240
Speaker 6: As you south, it gets.

960
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 12: Pretty fully marine pretty quick, So I think this is

961
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 12: just happening kind of an upper Cooking like region.

962
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 2: Years ago, I was talking to a researcher who was

963
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 2: looking at trying to explore the question of how bad

964
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 2: could the Burmese python situation get, so they would take

965
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 2: Burmese pythons and move north of the Florida Everglades and

966
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 2: make these enclosures just to see like what there, At

967
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 2: what point would they not be able to survive anymore?

968
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:30,919
Speaker 2: And they were kind of able to draw a sort

969
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 2: of a sort of line saying what they projected to

970
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 2: be the extent of the spread for for average temperature purposes.

971
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 2: Right when you guys look at this, now that you're

972
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 2: understanding that these pike are moving not just from people

973
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 2: moving them in buckets, but they're moving on their own

974
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 2: into unexpected areas, do you have a sense of, like

975
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 2: of how bad it could get or do you think

976
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 2: you already looking at the extent of what they could

977
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 2: possibly do for as they spread into these waters? And

978
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 2: I think within that I think we didn't cover on

979
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 2: just I don't mean to lay too much on you

980
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 2: at once, but you should probably speak to what this

981
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 2: could mean for salmon, right because that's what we're really

982
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 2: talking about here, right.

983
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, exactly, So we we know how bad it

984
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 12: can get, but it all depends really on the specific

985
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,720
Speaker 12: habitat of a location. You know, if you're a pike angler,

986
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 12: you know what pike habitat looks like.

987
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 6: You know where you.

988
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 12: Target them and in the Sassiina Valley, we've you know,

989
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 12: almost complete expansion through all available habitat. But what's at

990
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 12: risk here is the Kena Peninsula for sure, the northern

991
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 12: portion at least, and there is some tremendously good well

992
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 12: salmon habitat currently, but it would make for very good

993
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 12: pike habitat.

994
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 6: And that's what we're nervous about.

995
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 12: There's some locations that if Pike got into it would

996
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 12: be completely devastating, you know, completely wipe out salmon because

997
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 12: of the type of habitat in that citystem would favor

998
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 12: pike in an apex predator like that.

999
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 2: Does it seem like there's does it seem inevitable or

1000
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 2: does it seem like there's something that there's a move

1001
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 2: you guys that will have at your disposal.

1002
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 12: You know it's with enough time, it's likely inevitable. Now

1003
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 12: we're taking some preventative measures. In that Vogel Lake that

1004
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 12: I mentioned. We eradicated pike from there in twenty twenty one,

1005
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 12: and what we have now is a weir in place

1006
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 12: near the mouth of that drainage preventing pike from moving

1007
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 12: up through.

1008
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 6: Cooking let through that pathway.

1009
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 12: So you know, so we're taking prevention measures there, but

1010
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 12: some of these other locations, you know, we're kind of

1011
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 12: exploring options. We really want to dial in. How frequently

1012
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 12: is this occurring.

1013
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 6: We don't know.

1014
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 12: It seems to occur frequently enough that pike can establish

1015
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 12: a population. So a male and a female get into

1016
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 12: a system and fawn and kind of game over. So

1017
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 12: but we don't know exactly. We don't know really what

1018
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 12: the exact salinity concentrations or trends are in cook inlet.

1019
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 12: We need to figure that out to actually find what

1020
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,479
Speaker 12: we think would be the boundary of how far south

1021
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 12: they can go. So once we kind of do that,

1022
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 12: we can prioritize, you know, monitoring and prevention measures.

1023
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 5: Man, just just to play Devil's advocate there, I think

1024
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:33,439
Speaker 5: there would be some people that might say, if these

1025
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 5: things are traveling on their own into these area, they're

1026
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 5: not getting No one's dumping a bucket a pike into

1027
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 5: a lake, right if they're doing it on their own, Like,

1028
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 5: are they still considered an invasive species?

1029
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 12: Yeah, So that's a really good question. Short answer is yes,

1030
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 12: because they wouldn't be spreading if it wasn't for an

1031
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 12: initial human introduction. There's still a lot native to the area,

1032
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 12: so to be invasive, have to be non native and

1033
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 12: you know, causing harm.

1034
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 6: Uh.

1035
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 12: You know, a good example of that would be like

1036
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 12: the Asian carp throughout the Midwest. If they got established

1037
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 12: in the Great Lakes, you wouldn't consider them native because

1038
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 12: they swim there on their own.

1039
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 6: Right.

1040
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 5: So the other kind of the other part of that

1041
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 5: that question is, at least down here, you'll have these

1042
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 5: situations where like pike or smallmouth bass or some other

1043
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 5: non native game fish will get introduced into a system,

1044
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 5: and often there'll be like a contingent of anglers that

1045
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 5: are like, we don't want these things gone. They're great, right, yeah,

1046
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 5: what I mean, you know, there's there's so many examples

1047
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 5: down here. I would imagine in Alaska maybe because of

1048
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 5: how important salmon are that there's not really that kind

1049
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 5: of pushback like for for recreational and subsistence anglers saying, oh,

1050
00:51:58,800 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 5: you know, they're not so bad.

1051
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 6: Well, we we do get that.

1052
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 12: There's definitely a following of pike anglers here that want

1053
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 12: the pike to be here, you know, move them around. Uh,

1054
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 12: that's that's why they were introduced here in the first place, right,

1055
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 12: Somebody wanting to fish for pike. So we have that,

1056
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 12: but it is still you know, your average you know,

1057
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 12: Alaskan overwhelming majority understands what's going on and would much

1058
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:28,720
Speaker 12: prefer the salmon you know over a pike fishery. Yep,

1059
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 12: it only takes a couple of bad apples to really,

1060
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 12: you know, create a situation like what we have.

1061
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 5: Is this like a super high priority problem now for

1062
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 5: for Alaska fishing game?

1063
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 6: It is?

1064
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 12: This is this is probably the most devastating aquatic and

1065
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 12: vasive species we have in this region. You know, there's

1066
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 12: several others that we're dealing with, but I mean, for

1067
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 12: the pike. We've documented about twenty five percent of our

1068
00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 12: anagamous lakes on a surface area basis completely destroyed from pike.

1069
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 12: Twenty five percent and this is where samuel rearing and

1070
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,879
Speaker 12: growing before they out mak rate, and then another good

1071
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 12: fifteen percent are in pretty dire straight So significant a

1072
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 12: portion of habitat in this region is being impacted by pike.

1073
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 12: But there's there's other species on the horizon that we

1074
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 12: don't want here and we're working to prevent those as well.

1075
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 5: Have you guys implemented like cat mandatory catch and kill

1076
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 5: regulations and places we.

1077
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 12: Have in this entire region. If you catch a pike,

1078
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 12: you're required to kill it. You can kill it and

1079
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 12: tooss it back or keep it if you want, but

1080
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 12: you can't release it alive.

1081
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 6: Legally.

1082
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 2: You can kill it pickle it though, yep, yep.

1083
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 6: Kill and pickle it, and I would recommend that they're

1084
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 6: pretty good pickled.

1085
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 5: Well, thanks for chatting with us today, Parker. That was

1086
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 5: that was real informative.

1087
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for coming on, man, and I hope you

1088
00:53:54,880 --> 00:54:00,040
Speaker 2: guys have some success with that, because you know, the

1089
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 2: world's gonna start no matter where you go. The world's

1090
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 2: gonna become at risk of looking the same no matter

1091
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 2: where you go. You know, crows and northern pike. Thanks man,

1092
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 2: appreciate it all right.

1093
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 6: Thanks, appreciate it all right.

1094
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 2: Are you allowed to go out of order?

1095
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 3: You know there there are no rules. It's just a suggestion.

1096
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 2: Can we do two questions then do the photo thing?

1097
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 2: And because I saw two two questions, yeah, go for it.

1098
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 2: Someone asked about making venice and demigloss.

1099
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 8: Oh I saw that one.

1100
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 2: Absolute.

1101
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:33,760
Speaker 8: Just make sure you leave some meat on the bones

1102
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 8: because it's a little lean.

1103
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 5: If you don't, you.

1104
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 2: Get a real blonde.

1105
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 5: If you you got to commit to the time involved, man,

1106
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 5: but it's so worth it.

1107
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to commit to the time being involved.

1108
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 2: Then you got to commit to later trying to get

1109
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 2: that ring off your pot, because you're going to have

1110
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 2: a ring of like something that looks like it would

1111
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 2: have an industrial application, like a ring of sort of

1112
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 2: like a POxy that forms. But you got to cook

1113
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 2: it down to I mean picture that you're cooking it

1114
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 2: down and cooking it down to the point where it's

1115
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 2: like it's the consistency of cold maple syrup. Like when

1116
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 2: you lay the back of a spoon in it and

1117
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 2: lift it up. It's it's uh, it'll stick to that spoon,

1118
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 2: you know. And then I'll put it into ice cube trays.

1119
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 5: That's what I do because it's powerful. Throw one ice

1120
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 5: cub worth and it's like a pine of stock.

1121
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 2: Yeah. But then later when you're having your supper, I'll

1122
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 2: take maybe like two parts butter, one part demiglass, a

1123
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 2: little booze or a little wine or something. Yeah. Yeah, no,

1124
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:36,879
Speaker 2: it works, good man, it works good.

1125
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 5: I like that you said supper, not enough people still

1126
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 5: call it supper, dude.

1127
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 2: I remember it was so funny as I remember when

1128
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 2: I went to graduate school, Okay, graduate school, I remember

1129
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 2: making a conscious decision to stop saying something. Nobody said supper,

1130
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 2: nobody said suffer.

1131
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:56,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not it. That's not a West Coast thing.

1132
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 2: I remember being like, man, how come these guys no

1133
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 2: one says that's what? I switched to dinner? Yeah, yeah,

1134
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 2: I hate it. I hate it about myself now, but

1135
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 2: I like consciously switched to dinner. So I thought it

1136
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 2: made me. I was like, these guys don't know what

1137
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 2: supper is. Oh, there's another question, Yeah, someone asked. I

1138
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 2: saw a comment come up where there's a there's a

1139
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 2: host Forrest Gallant, who oh yeah, is that true that

1140
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 2: he said that?

1141
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 3: I couldn't tell you.

1142
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:25,399
Speaker 2: I can look it up though, says that he said

1143
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 2: you shouldn't be able to hunt bears because it's trophy hunting.

1144
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 2: M you know, you know what, here's a good thing

1145
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 2: to go look at. There's about a guy, yeah, talked

1146
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 2: about that bear that fell out of the man while

1147
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 2: hunting in Virginia. So a guy was hunting Virginia and

1148
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 2: they treat a bear. There's a tragedy. They treat a bear.

1149
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 2: And we discussed this, so they treat a bear. Someone

1150
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 2: shot the bear. A guy's dog got under and he

1151
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 2: thought the bear was gonna land on the dog. He

1152
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 2: went there to try to save his dog got hit

1153
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 2: by the bear and it killed him. So naturally it

1154
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 2: brings out all this commentary like oh he deserved it,

1155
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 2: you know, and all this terrible stuff.

1156
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:07,240
Speaker 8: Everybody's pretty nasty.

1157
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 5: I don't understand what trophy hunting has to do, like

1158
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 5: it's just like.

1159
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 2: It's yeah, I mean like bears are great to eat. Yeah,

1160
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 2: I don't get it, Like like I killed deer and

1161
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 2: I have their I have deer skulls all over my damn.

1162
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 3: I don't know how true that is because I'm finding

1163
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 3: for he's put he has videos of himself hunting bears online,

1164
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 3: so I don't I don't know where that.

1165
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I was wondering about it.

1166
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 3: Maybe he had a change of heart. I don't know.

1167
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 2: I was wondering, but I don't know. But but either way,

1168
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 2: you know, what's a great line one of my there's

1169
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 2: a Boone biography by Farreger mac Farreger, and then and

1170
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 2: in the Boone Byer, if you by mac Ferreger, he's

1171
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 2: talking about Venison and in uh venison and bear meat,

1172
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 2: and he says that on the American Frontier, bear meat

1173
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 2: was for eating. Yeah, you shot deer, You shot deer

1174
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 2: for leather, and when you got hunger, you shot bears.

1175
00:57:56,720 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 5: Yeah. Anyone who's ever eating a good all black bear

1176
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 5: should try it.

1177
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 8: Oh man, it's fatty and delicious. It's that's awesome.

1178
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 2: And you know, everything's got a trophy, man.

1179
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, some weasels.

1180
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 2: Weasels got a little trophy.

1181
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 3: People are saying that he said it on his most

1182
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 3: recent podcast, but I haven't heard that. I can't speak

1183
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 3: to that. I don't think any any any of us

1184
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 3: can right now.

1185
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a weird. It's a odd like you'd have

1186
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 2: to really, you'd have to stay up for a few

1187
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 2: days to find a way to justify that.

1188
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you still wouldn't.

1189
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 2: How do we do the fishing trip thing?

1190
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 8: Uh?

1191
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 3: You say? Our next segment is called meat Eater Top Threes.

1192
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 2: Our next segments called me the top threes.

1193
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 5: Phil Oh, okay.

1194
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 7: Don't forget about this, brony.

1195
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I was waiting on these musical transitions. I

1196
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:51,919
Speaker 5: hadn't heard one yet.

1197
00:58:53,240 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 2: It's grateful, but really good Bill.

1198
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 3: Thanks appreciate it. And then yeah, Steve, if you look

1199
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 3: at the script, then it's you. You continue a little

1200
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 3: bit more and say, this week we are ranking our

1201
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 3: three favorite fishing trips.

1202
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 2: So naturally, this week we're ranking our three favorite fishing trips. Maggie,

1203
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 2: you go first. What's your third most favorite memorable fishing trip.

1204
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 8: So this was a fun trip down in Florida and

1205
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 8: the golf. My my folks had just retired and they

1206
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 8: spent three months airbnb hopping in Florida. Oh, they like

1207
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 8: drove down with their lake boat and they had their

1208
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 8: old town canoe on top of the truck. My mom

1209
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 8: was like, we look like Beverly Hill Billy's going down here.

1210
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 8: So I flew down there and hung out with them.

1211
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 8: My dad and I went out with a guide for

1212
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 8: a day and.

1213
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 2: Then well then here you are in the canoe.

1214
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:54,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1215
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 8: We just took the canoe out and the mangroves. We

1216
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 8: had a little trolling motor. We would u we would

1217
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 8: paddle around some fly casting was kind of difficult, but uh,

1218
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 8: you know, spin and gear. I'd never caught red fish before.

1219
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 8: They're super fun fish to catch.

1220
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 2: And that's your old man in the canoe.

1221
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 8: That's my dad. Yeah, he's he's big on sun protection

1222
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 8: and man, red fish on the half shell, Holy cow,

1223
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 8: that's a great fish to eat. I didn't really know

1224
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 8: what the half shell thing meant. But when you cook

1225
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 8: them up like that, it.

1226
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 5: Hardens up and it's scales.

1227
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 8: It's almost like chunks of crab out of there. Is amazing.

1228
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 8: I actually I just cooked up that red fish he

1229
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 8: gave me this summer after. It was delicious fish. I

1230
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 8: didn't know you gave that fish to me.

1231
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 5: You can do that same thing with northern pike, yeah, can.

1232
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 8: Man, you're gonna have to catch something.

1233
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 5: Cook northern you leave the scales on.

1234
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 8: You can do that and it forms that delicious slime

1235
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 8: scrape and you get down to man, you're not going

1236
01:00:59,000 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 8: to eat the skin.

1237
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 2: Oh you know a trick on d slimemen. Those suckers

1238
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 2: you ever put them in salt? From minute that ship

1239
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 2: comes off.

1240
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:07,479
Speaker 5: It's amazing how they keep producing it for.

1241
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 2: Where's it coming from?

1242
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 6: All right?

1243
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 2: Number two?

1244
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 8: I think we all do.

1245
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 3: I'm we're going to do Brodie's Number three.

1246
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 2: Oh well, this canna take forever.

1247
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 8: I tried to go fast.

1248
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 3: It's nine things to talk about.

1249
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 5: This is tough for me. Man, I've had a lot

1250
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 5: of good things. I kind of concentrated on family trips

1251
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 5: because they're the most fun these days. Uh, this is

1252
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 5: every couple of years. Uh, I got to go on

1253
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 5: this vacation where my wife's family gets together for a

1254
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 5: family reunion down south, and it's kind of vacation where

1255
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 5: people spend half the day on the beach and half

1256
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 5: the day at the pool. And that that is tough

1257
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 5: for me. So I always try and squeeze some fishing,

1258
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 5: and uh, we got into some that first picture, we

1259
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 5: got into some dorado and kobea a few my I

1260
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 5: was out, And then the next picture we really got

1261
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 5: into this speckled trout and white trout back in the sound,

1262
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 5: and uh, it was just a great trip.

1263
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 2: Love it.

1264
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 8: Did you gaff that thing while you had it on

1265
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 8: the fly?

1266
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 5: The guy we're fishing with a guide we know down

1267
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 5: there and he threw that gaff. He did the gaffing.

1268
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was my number three. Oh. I was

1269
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 2: just here here, I'm holding the triple tail. I shot

1270
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 2: with a spear gun. But this is just a placeholder.

1271
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 2: For the last bunch of years, handful of years I've

1272
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:37,919
Speaker 2: been going down and diving, uh, spearfishing the oil rigs

1273
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 2: and the golf of Mexico, and uh, that's become not

1274
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 2: my most favorite, but a favorite thing of mine to

1275
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 2: go do is do the oil rigs and uh with

1276
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 2: that triple tail. It's funny because you have all this

1277
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 2: murky brackish water that floats up top, and then you

1278
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 2: have this little band of clear water. So let's say

1279
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 2: it's thirty feet deep. You'll have like twelve feet of

1280
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 2: muck that's on top. Then you'll have a four or

1281
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 2: five foot band of water you can see, and then

1282
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 2: you got all the bottom muck. And they call it

1283
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 2: like the center of the oreo, and you hunt the

1284
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 2: center of the oreo. And it's funny because like fish

1285
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 2: going to the center of the oreo, and this this

1286
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 2: oreole center was about big enough for a person to

1287
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 2: lay horizontal in it. I'm not kidding you. It's like

1288
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 2: a very narrow window of clear water. And I go

1289
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 2: down and I find that narrow window of clear water

1290
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 2: and I look and there's that sun bitch of tripletail

1291
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 2: sitting there. And the last thing he thought was someone's

1292
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 2: gonna shoot it.

1293
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 5: You know, they lay sideways under like palettes and shit like,

1294
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 5: yeah he was.

1295
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 2: He was upright in the rig, upright in the rig,

1296
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 2: and I walked up to him like I was walking

1297
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 2: up to you, you know, in no country for old man.

1298
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 2: When he gets the cop with that captive bolt gun. Yep,

1299
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 2: that was me and that fish.

1300
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 5: That's a big triple tail.

1301
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm done.

1302
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 3: Maggie's number two, my number two.

1303
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 8: This is uh cool mountain fishing trip right in my

1304
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 8: backyard and the winds went up there with my boyfriend.

1305
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 8: This is actually a very memorable fishing trip from a

1306
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 8: dumb mistake I made, which I'll get to.

1307
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 3: But uh so where is this, Maggie?

1308
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 8: Sorry, this is in the Winds.

1309
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 3: I don't know where that is.

1310
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 8: It is the wind River Range in Wyoming.

1311
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 3: Ah, gotcha, this is the lingo. I'm not privy too,

1312
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 3: thank you.

1313
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1314
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 8: So we went in I think about sixteen or seventeen

1315
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 8: miles one day and we sort of just made a

1316
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 8: big loop and fished our way around for a week

1317
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 8: and came out another trailhead. It was awesome. My old

1318
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 8: dog he was I think eleven there and he was

1319
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 8: a trooper came the whole time. We uh yeah, caught cuddies, Brookies.

1320
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 8: It was just a really great trip. I brought this

1321
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 8: little packet of like curry paste up with me. It

1322
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 8: was like a single use packet and cooking fish over

1323
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 8: the fire with some cur repast in the middle. Like

1324
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 8: maybe you're just backcountry hungry, but holy moly, it was delicious.

1325
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 8: It was he like, didn't need butter anything. It was

1326
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 8: really good. So the last day are it rained so

1327
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 8: hard our our tent. It was like slapping a bag

1328
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 8: of wind if you ever did that in your youthful days. Uh.

1329
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 8: So it rained harder than I'd ever seen it rain

1330
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 8: in the winds. And we're walking out and I'm just

1331
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:33,479
Speaker 8: popping along, thinking about a cheeseburger and a cold beer

1332
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,439
Speaker 8: at the burger bar, and uh, you know, we're off

1333
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 8: trail because there's a bunch of trees down and stuff.

1334
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 8: And I just took one bad step and uh there's

1335
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 8: a lot of swearing involved.

1336
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 2: Looks like you took a bad step and got hit

1337
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 2: by a truck.

1338
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 8: Was like, uh, you know, he was like, oh, I'll

1339
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 8: just set up the tent. I'll leave you here. You know,

1340
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 8: I'll go get some horses and come back and get you.

1341
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 8: And I was so mad, I was, I'm walking out

1342
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 8: of here. Got so I walked out nine miles on

1343
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 8: a broken ankle, and I've got a plate and seven

1344
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 8: screws to boot from it.

1345
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 2: Wow, that looks painful.

1346
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 8: So watch your stuff out there, kids, all right?

1347
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 3: Bro to your number two?

1348
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 5: Oh yeah. A couple of years ago we go to

1349
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 5: Fort Peck usually every year for a Memorial Day weekend,

1350
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 5: and a couple of years ago we just had like

1351
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 5: the trip of trips, like for three days we could

1352
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 5: do like no wrong on Walleye and Pike, like giant Walleye,

1353
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 5: Big Pike, and it was it was just like one

1354
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 5: of the best fishing trips I've ever been on. Like

1355
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 5: the boys were just crushing big fish.

1356
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 4: It was.

1357
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 5: It was just a lot of fun.

1358
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 2: You can also get your heart broken there too.

1359
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 9: Oh yeah.

1360
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 5: I mean the year before it wasn't that great. Last

1361
01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 5: year it.

1362
01:06:58,080 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 2: Was just like the wind too.

1363
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, but that we just like hit it perfectly

1364
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 5: and it was just lake.

1365
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 2: Cool.

1366
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 3: Steve, you want to do your you're number two?

1367
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 2: Bring that up here.

1368
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 3: I think we all know this picture.

1369
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah one, uh, the one that got away. That

1370
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 2: octopus still down there, still down there, still haunts me somehow.

1371
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna find out where he lives. Pushing the pot.

1372
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 2: I know where he lives. They don't move that much.

1373
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 2: We're going to tangle again, probably this August.

1374
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 5: That thing might be big enough to just drag your book.

1375
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 2: Because I told you that what I learned about it,

1376
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 2: what the guy told me.

1377
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 5: A trick, a fishing TRICKIM.

1378
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 2: When you're fighting, having a fight with one, put a

1379
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 2: hook into him, yeah before then you fight with him,

1380
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 2: and when if he wins the fight, he just takes

1381
01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 2: off to the bottom, then you crank him back up

1382
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 2: and fight with him again. You can fight him as

1383
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 2: many times as you want because you got that hook

1384
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 2: stuck in them. So next time I get him up

1385
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 2: to the boat, I'm putting a hook into him, or

1386
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 2: I'm going to drag his ass to the beach. I'm

1387
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 2: just gonna drive to the beach. Just on the beach,

1388
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 2: he can stick to the bottom of the boat all

1389
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 2: he wants, and then he's pretty soon it's gonna be

1390
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 2: pinned between my boat bottom and the bank. I got

1391
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:20,719
Speaker 2: it all planned.

1392
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,679
Speaker 3: I'm just imagining this being the last act of your life,

1393
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 3: like decades from now, and it's just you and the octopus.

1394
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:28,679
Speaker 3: You both end up on a beach somewhere.

1395
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 2: I would love to die fighting that octopus.

1396
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 3: Great, Okay, let's go to Maggie's number number one.

1397
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 8: See what Oh my uh Nate, my boyfriend and my

1398
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 8: good friend Emily and I took his awesome trip to

1399
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:52,799
Speaker 8: Costa Rica pas Gios pesca dios se uh that rooster fish.

1400
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:55,640
Speaker 8: I it fought so hard it was it was like

1401
01:08:56,040 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 8: tailing like a tarpain getting up and I was so spent,

1402
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 8: and the guys picked it up and handed it to me.

1403
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 8: I was like, oh, man, I gotta do push ups

1404
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 8: before my next saltwater fishing trip. I spent, But so

1405
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 8: we went out a couple days with the guy. We

1406
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 8: went out at the beginning of our trip. This is

1407
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:16,559
Speaker 8: like a two week trip. We just kind of bopped

1408
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 8: around the Osa Peninsula and so we went out the

1409
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:23,680
Speaker 8: first day and we crushed it on Dorato. So we

1410
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:26,599
Speaker 8: had a pile of fish that we just freeze and

1411
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 8: carried around with us, and we went out. I think

1412
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 8: it was like right before Christmas that first day. So

1413
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:38,640
Speaker 8: I think the next picture should be our Christmas feast.

1414
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 8: Oh that's a jack I caught off shore. We just

1415
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 8: tossed poppers off the shore for jack and there were

1416
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 8: brewster fish surfing in the waves. Really, it was incredible

1417
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 8: just the diversity of fish we found. So this was

1418
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 8: all Doroto. We've got like three different We've got like

1419
01:09:57,320 --> 01:10:01,719
Speaker 8: two savices, a poke kind of like a crudo sashimi thing,

1420
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 8: some pan fried fish, uh, some kind of burnt fried plantains,

1421
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 8: and a embarrassing amount of Pillson's in the trash can

1422
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 8: over there. But uh, but that was our Christmas feast.

1423
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 8: All in. The snapper was incredibly good eating.

1424
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 2: That's a mutton.

1425
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 5: Is that a coubrera?

1426
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 8: I think it's a small cubrera. The cubra was really tasty.

1427
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 5: Those things get jagged, they get huge.

1428
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 8: We caught a bigger one, but that size was really

1429
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 8: good eating. We actually, the one souvenir we brought back

1430
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 8: from Costa Rica was this like metal dish that we

1431
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 8: bought at one of the local stores so we could

1432
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:41,600
Speaker 8: cook those snapper fish in it. And that is a

1433
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:43,599
Speaker 8: that's the one thing we brought home and I still

1434
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:45,559
Speaker 8: use it for cooking fish.

1435
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 3: Great, all right, Brody, you're number one.

1436
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:48,719
Speaker 8: Hmm.

1437
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 5: Every trip to the Fish Act is good. But last

1438
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:59,559
Speaker 5: year was like exceptionally good fishing. And the funny thing is,

1439
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 5: like a day or two before we got there, Steve

1440
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 5: called me and he's like, man, they got some bad news.

1441
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 5: He's like, the fishing is really good, so it's bound

1442
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 5: to end soon.

1443
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:13,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it comes in seven day waves.

1444
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:17,720
Speaker 5: But we got there and it just kept going and

1445
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:24,719
Speaker 5: going and going all week. Halibut, salmon, Pacific cod, lincott.

1446
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 5: It was just like a really good king salmon. It

1447
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 5: was just a really really good week of fishing. And

1448
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 5: it's just always a great time up there.

1449
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 3: Great, all right, let's move on to Steve's number one here.

1450
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so that's yeah, that's a wooden hook, a

1451
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 2: traditional Native Alaskan coastal Native Alaskan fishing hook called a

1452
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 2: knock knah. I was out with Heather Duville and her

1453
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 2: father Mike, who lived in Craig, Alaska. Their cling it

1454
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 2: and they took me out to fish. We were filming

1455
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 2: my New History Channel show Hunting History, and one of

1456
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 2: the scenes we go out with them to fish with

1457
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 2: traditional hooks. I had always seen these hooks everywhere you

1458
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 2: go in Southeast Alaska. One of these hooks is hanging

1459
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 2: on the wall and I always thought two things. I thought,

1460
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 2: how do you set that thing? And two there's no

1461
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 2: way that thing works. And we put a dozen of

1462
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:33,679
Speaker 2: those hooks down. Let them fish for maybe two hours.

1463
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 5: You're baiting at with octopus, right.

1464
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 2: Baita with octopus. Her and her dad set out. They

1465
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 2: always set them in pairs. They set them in pairs

1466
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:45,599
Speaker 2: so the hooks compete with each other. We set out

1467
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 2: six pairs. Okay, they let them fish out of two hours.

1468
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:51,599
Speaker 2: Maybe we let them sit for two hours. So twelve hooks,

1469
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 2: all set in the same area on the same bank,

1470
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 2: come back and had and had three three halbit all

1471
01:12:57,880 --> 01:12:58,759
Speaker 2: seventy plus.

1472
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 8: So you're not like trugging.

1473
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 2: That hook floats. So that hook is tied to a rock.

1474
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 2: So there's a rock, and you had about eighteen inches

1475
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 2: of the line, and that hook floats above the rock.

1476
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 2: It's buoyant and it's got two different woods, so it

1477
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 2: floats the right way, and it's one of those what

1478
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 2: he ate is wrapped an octopus. So he goes on

1479
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 2: and they got a metal spike on there that winds

1480
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 2: up catching them pointing back the other way. So they

1481
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 2: were telling me that traditionally those hooks were made with bear,

1482
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 2: not metal, not stainless, but bear shinbone. Okay, So they

1483
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 2: carved their own knocks and they put that stainless barb

1484
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:43,679
Speaker 2: on there, you know. But I when I got home,

1485
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,600
Speaker 2: I put out an email at looking for bear shinbones,

1486
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 2: and Corey's not here, gave me a bear shinbone. So

1487
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 2: I cut that bear shinbone up, and I made a

1488
01:13:56,240 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 2: couple bear shin bone barbs, and that they had given

1489
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 2: me one of those knocks, and I took the steel

1490
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 2: spike off and put a bear shinbone. I made the

1491
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 2: I did the whole thing. I dried it out real

1492
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 2: good and then made it with a belt sander. So

1493
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 2: I made the prong and mounted that bear shinbone prong

1494
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 2: and sent it back up the heather. And they're gonna

1495
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 2: take it out and fish it cool, and seeing I

1496
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 2: think it's gonna hold up nice. Yeah, I think it's

1497
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:28,640
Speaker 2: gonna hold up. That was But that day, that was

1498
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 2: one of the most incredible things I've ever seen. Twelve hooks,

1499
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 2: three big hal but one of those sets had two.

1500
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 2: So seeing a halbit come up on a wooden hook

1501
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 2: tied to a rock.

1502
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 3: That's why I mean a rock.

1503
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 8: I had seen those, but I always assumed they were

1504
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 8: like trolled or something.

1505
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 2: It was cool as shit, man, I couldn't believe. You know.

1506
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 2: The other thing is when that fish is hooked on

1507
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 2: that thing, he's just like they take him up real general.

1508
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 2: He's not fighting. It's like you got him, you got

1509
01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 2: him by the balls. When he's on that thing, man,

1510
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:00,720
Speaker 2: they just come up the like I give up.

1511
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 5: And when when they're pulling him in, are they harpooner?

1512
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 5: They just lift it up.

1513
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 2: And so he takes I learned so much shit about hell.

1514
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 2: But this day, when that fish comes up, he's got

1515
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 2: a way. He hits it on its nose flop, just

1516
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 2: stuns them, just stuns them, and you already pull big

1517
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 2: hell in. The boat starts beating all around. It's gonna

1518
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 2: like break fishing rides, and everybody's freaking out. They pet

1519
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 2: it on the white side of the belly. You just

1520
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 2: tickle its belly and they go rigid. And then I

1521
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 2: also learned I've been bleeding halbit all the way wrong.

1522
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:36,679
Speaker 2: When they bleed a halibit, it's like it's like it's

1523
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:42,720
Speaker 2: like a Quentin Tarantino movie. Yeah, where I can't explain it.

1524
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 2: You don't want to give away that dude, and they're

1525
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 2: not sawing away. I mean they take that knife and

1526
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 2: one little and it's like, like I said, it's like

1527
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:53,679
Speaker 2: a I didn't know there's so much blood in Albit.

1528
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 2: We bleed helbit, you get like a thimble. They bleed hell.

1529
01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 2: But like I said, it looks like it's like it's

1530
01:15:58,560 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 2: like watching pulp fiction.

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01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 8: Hmm.

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01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 2: That's a hell of a day, I bet. Thank you, Heather.

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01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:08,720
Speaker 3: Awesome, Thanks guys. Okay, last last Q and a oh

1534
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 3: exacting here and then we'll wrap up the shows here,

1535
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 3: last last call for questions. Get him in if you

1536
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 3: want us. The first one's more of a comment, but

1537
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 3: he thought you'd appreciate this. Steve Collins says that he

1538
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:18,600
Speaker 3: finally picked up a copy of The Scavenger's Guide to

1539
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 3: Hook Cuisine from a used bookstore and the lower half

1540
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 3: of the pages are covered in dried deer blood. So

1541
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 3: that's great to let you know.

1542
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 2: That's great. How do you know it's dear blood?

1543
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 3: He says. Apparently someone whoever sold it to the store

1544
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 3: wrote a note saying it was dear blood. Maybe maybe

1545
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:33,640
Speaker 3: he's just trying to cover it.

1546
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 2: Well, that's classic murder. That's a classic murder move right there,

1547
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 2: Cops get to your house. That's all dear blood boys.

1548
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 3: Question for the crew, what do you think of shed

1549
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 3: hunting area closures? Is it ethical or a pointless gesture?

1550
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:49,679
Speaker 2: No, I think it makes sense, like in some place.

1551
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 2: It depends in some places. I think where you have

1552
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 2: Like I think if you got an area where you

1553
01:16:57,479 --> 01:16:59,559
Speaker 2: got those incredible amounts of snow, and you got a

1554
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 2: bunch of animals that are already stressed and half dead,

1555
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 2: and it's March, and they and instead of people hounding

1556
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 2: them and chasing them around, get antlers. I see now

1557
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 2: and then that it makes sense to tell everybody to

1558
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 2: hold off till until you produce the snow load and

1559
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:14,760
Speaker 2: the animals can move on.

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01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:17,599
Speaker 8: I totally agree because I live right in the middle

1561
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 8: of a huge mule deer migration corridor. We've got elk

1562
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 8: feed grounds, and if people could just go in there whenever,

1563
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 8: like those animals would be freaked out. Yeah, and the

1564
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 8: most stressful time of the year.

1565
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 5: You just don't need to be bumping them around at

1566
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 5: the time of year when they're at their like the

1567
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 5: bottom of their health for the year. It's just like

1568
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:39,680
Speaker 5: too easy to run them down.

1569
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's a saying winter, winter weekends, spring kills.

1570
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:46,640
Speaker 2: You're hitting them at a bad time. And then and

1571
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 2: then two you always got to like the the problem

1572
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 2: is too you always sometimes you got to make laws

1573
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 2: for the worst actors. Yep, And you get people. It

1574
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 2: sucks to say it, but you get people that run

1575
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:58,599
Speaker 2: after and chase after animals to get them to drop.

1576
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 8: Oh man. And like the shed Opener where I live,

1577
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 8: it's well, they actually have a week for locals now,

1578
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 8: which is nice because it's slowed it down a little bit.

1579
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 8: But like I walk my dog out on BLM every

1580
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:13,800
Speaker 8: day and I know the place is where the deer hold,

1581
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 8: and I avoid those places. You know, shed Opener, people

1582
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:20,759
Speaker 8: are just running around on four or five side by sides,

1583
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 8: like not on dirt roads. There's more people out there.

1584
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 8: I never see a soul out there, and they're just

1585
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:28,960
Speaker 8: all over the place, deer running around, freaking out like

1586
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 8: it's always a big ordeal. So you know, there might

1587
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 8: be something to having like one opening day being this

1588
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:38,599
Speaker 8: big event, but I think it's better than animals getting

1589
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 8: chased around in the winter when they're already struggling. Pretty good.

1590
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 3: Mitch is asking how long is too long to freeze

1591
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:47,840
Speaker 3: a skull before cleaning it to mount I.

1592
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 8: Had a deer skull in a Dave Sushi bag that

1593
01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:00,120
Speaker 8: I forgot about in my garage when I lived in

1594
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:03,200
Speaker 8: a trailer. You're in Bozeman with my friend and Goes.

1595
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 8: I was wondering what was in that Dave Sushi bag

1596
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:08,679
Speaker 8: in the garage and I opened it up, and good lord,

1597
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 8: bagging that thing's rancid. I was like, Oh, don't worry,

1598
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 8: I'll boil it. It'll be fine.

1599
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that bone will never weaken in a freezer.

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01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 10: Cool.

1601
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:19,760
Speaker 3: I think you covered a lot of this stuff on

1602
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:21,559
Speaker 3: the podcast with most Steve, but this is the first

1603
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:24,519
Speaker 3: radio live since your new show Hunting History premiered. Uh

1604
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 3: and Anthony's feeding into the conspiracy says, do you think

1605
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 3: DV Cooper burned his parachute?

1606
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 2: No? I mean, no one knows, but I don't know.

1607
01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 2: If you ever a mess with the parachute, that's a

1608
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 2: They're a mess. They're a mess. I have to think

1609
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:44,799
Speaker 2: I think he stashed it. I think he stuck it somewhere.

1610
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 2: I don't think he carried it around. I think he

1611
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 2: buried it somewhere. You know, after messing with one, like

1612
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 2: you stick that thing under log and jam it under

1613
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:54,720
Speaker 2: there and throw some moss and stuff. You have to

1614
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 2: just you have to like dig in the right.

1615
01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:57,680
Speaker 5: Spot, especially in that environment.

1616
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 2: I don't think he carried it around. I think it

1617
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 2: would have been a bit in the rain.

1618
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 3: Greg's asking thoughts on Colorado non resident elk bow tags

1619
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five. Do you think the old over

1620
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 3: the counter units will be zero points? He's trying to

1621
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:13,639
Speaker 3: build confidence. He wasn't over the counter guy that wasn't

1622
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:15,800
Speaker 3: smart enough to save up his points.

1623
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 5: I think I think it was a necessary move as

1624
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:24,760
Speaker 5: much as people don't want to hear it. And the

1625
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 5: point thing is going to be very unit dependent. Some

1626
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 5: units they'll you'll need points and some you won't. Just

1627
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 5: depends how many tags they issue.

1628
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:38,920
Speaker 2: Cool. I could do this all day, Phil, I like

1629
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:39,639
Speaker 2: these questions.

1630
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 3: Okay, well, this is officially the longest episode of Radio Live.

1631
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 2: We can keep going stop.

1632
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, cool, thanks the questions, guys, appreciate it is

1633
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 3: the part where you wrap up the show, Steve, you know,

1634
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 3: say anything else you want to say?

1635
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Brody, wrap it up.

1636
01:20:58,000 --> 01:20:59,720
Speaker 5: How about I wrap it up by telling you to

1637
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:01,679
Speaker 5: talk about your little history tour you're doing.

1638
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so me and Randall tour is a little

1639
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 2: someone pointed out, the tours seems a little it's a

1640
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:09,360
Speaker 2: little heavy.

1641
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 5: Guess what.

1642
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 3: Randal and Seth are still in the waiting room. Hey, guys,

1643
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 3: what's going on with.

1644
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 2: Me and Randall? Here's the deal, Me and Randall is there?

1645
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:19,760
Speaker 2: Me know the dates off the top of their head.

1646
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 9: The eleventh and Bozeman.

1647
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 2: Me and Randall are going on a mini tour college.

1648
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 2: We're going on a college tour. We're going to college

1649
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:29,479
Speaker 2: campuses and doing a free lecture about the mountain Man

1650
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:34,839
Speaker 2: era we're doing. We're doing one at Montana State University.

1651
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 2: We're doing one at University of Montana, and.

1652
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:41,080
Speaker 8: We're doing twentieth. Sorry, I'm trying to stick the dates.

1653
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 1: In there for okay.

1654
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 2: Montana State University February eleventh.

1655
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 8: University of Montana February twentieth.

1656
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 2: University of Wyoming February twenty sixth. Yeah, it's free, open

1657
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 2: to the public. Watch our website to get you got

1658
01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 2: a register. You can't just show up. You gotta like

1659
01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 2: tell your comings so we can so people don't show

1660
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:03,720
Speaker 2: up and there's no seats, and I'm not sure how

1661
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 2: many of them still have seats, but like I said,

1662
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 2: come on down. Me and Randall on stage telling the

1663
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 2: story of the Mountain Men and what that era meant

1664
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:10,920
Speaker 2: and means.

1665
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 8: There you go, go on the meat eater dot com

1666
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 8: live events.

1667
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna come down here next week maybe if you

1668
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 2: need to find out.

1669
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:25,240
Speaker 3: Thanks everyone,