Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program that brings you
Speaker 1: right inside at RG Stadium as we talk Texans, Mark
Speaker 1: Vandermaer and John Harris with you building transforming into a
Speaker 1: rodeo facility and a football facility at doubles it triples
Speaker 1: sometimes and the cook off is this weekend Combine next
Speaker 1: week as far as the Texans go. And one programming
Speaker 1: note off the bat, Johnny, as we were scheduled at
Speaker 1: Demiko Ryan's tomorrow, but we're gonna push that back into
Speaker 1: the Combine week because I guess we have not announced
Speaker 1: coaches yet, the team is not and we'll wait till
Speaker 1: all that as dawn, and just get Demko settled and
Speaker 1: go to the Combine and catch up with him there
Speaker 1: and general manager Nick Kasserio at the Combine as we
Speaker 1: will do shows from Tuesday through Friday from Indianapolis like
Speaker 1: we do every year. Anyway, how's it going, my friend?
Speaker 1: You're doing well? Yeah? I want to I want to
Speaker 1: meet Demiko, so I don't want to get all the
Speaker 1: way to the Combine, but he missed each other home
Speaker 1: in the hallways, and so are you, and we'll make
Speaker 1: that happen. Yeah, And I'm sure we'll meet up at
Speaker 1: some point. But that's okay, Yeah, we uh, I'm sure
Speaker 1: we can. I'm sure we can find something to talk about.
Speaker 1: We've been doing it for nine years. I think we'll
Speaker 1: figure it out. Ten years this ten years? How many years?
Speaker 1: This is our tenth year together? Yeah, ten year? Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll figure it out. You'll started in twenty fourteen around
Speaker 1: this time of year, I believe, So here we go.
Speaker 1: That was after the combine. You got back from the
Speaker 1: combine and I started pestering you, and you were like,
Speaker 1: all right, let's go. Don't I think I pestered you.
Speaker 1: Let's have a debate here, who pestered you? Actually, let's
Speaker 1: talk about this because I tweeted this out. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about where quarterbacks come from? All right, Oh, where do
Speaker 1: quarterbacks come from? Daddy? And you have to ask the question, Well, son,
Speaker 1: I thought you'd never bring that up. But it's time
Speaker 1: for us to have a little talk here about where
Speaker 1: quarterbacks come from, because honestly, they can come from anywhere.
Speaker 1: Now let's go here. Let's go here, because when I
Speaker 1: look at the playoffs, all right, as we know them,
Speaker 1: as we knew them and know them, let's look at
Speaker 1: the NF all right, the NFC teams that made the
Speaker 1: postseason n s. Okay, all right, let's start there. So
Speaker 1: you tell me Eagles second round, second round, okay, nine ers.
Speaker 1: Their quarterbacks are all over the place, second round or
Speaker 1: seventh round, maybe first round as well, but very little
Speaker 1: of that or trading multiple first round picks for a
Speaker 1: third round. It's only played a couple of games. Yeah,
Speaker 1: number three overall? Oh a third rounder? No for number
Speaker 1: three overall? Number three overall? Got you? Yeah, so, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put the forty nine ers squarely in the
Speaker 1: category of non first round quarterback. Okay, that brought them
Speaker 1: here and got them there a couple of years in
Speaker 1: a row. Vikings former fourth rounder, and the free agent thing, Okay,
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins Tampa Bay. Kind of unfair because it's the
Speaker 1: greatest of all time. But he happened to be drafted
Speaker 1: in the sixth round, and that excuse everything when you
Speaker 1: try to argue that you can get a quarterback out
Speaker 1: of the first round. But here he is. So the
Speaker 1: other night, I was Saturday and night. I think I
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time in the kitchen. I was
Speaker 1: just trying different recipes and different things, cooking. I've got
Speaker 1: a both small TV in there, and so I turned
Speaker 1: it on YouTube and there was something that I watched
Speaker 1: and that I didn't have time to change it to
Speaker 1: a different show. And so the next you know, YouTube
Speaker 1: finishes one and it says coming up in five four,
Speaker 1: three two, and all of a sudden, it starts with
Speaker 1: Steve Sable talking with Tom Brady and he says, do
Speaker 1: you know the six quarterbacks who were drafted ahead of you?
Speaker 1: And it's a documentary it's been out for a long
Speaker 1: time called the Brady Six. Oh yeah, And it's fascinating
Speaker 1: because there are so many moments in there where you go,
Speaker 1: oh man, and then you hear these quarterbacks that are
Speaker 1: taking ahead of Tommy, like Giovanni or Mazzi. Hey here
Speaker 1: had a howitzer, Johnny. I saw him at Hofstra. I
Speaker 1: did a game there actually with Giovanni Carmazzi. But I
Speaker 1: get your drift. So here's one thing that I everybody, well,
Speaker 1: not hear anybody, but I hear a lot of people
Speaker 1: say this, Well, if such and such coach is gonna
Speaker 1: draft that player, then I trust that that player is good.
Speaker 1: I give to you Giovanni Carmazzi drafted by arguably the
Speaker 1: greatest quarterbacks coach guru ever, Bill Walsh. Wow, what Yes?
Speaker 1: When he was advising the forty nine ers. Bill Walsh
Speaker 1: was running the forty nine ers in two thousand when
Speaker 1: they had that draft, and Bill Walsh fell in love
Speaker 1: with Giovanni Carmazzi and that was the guy they wanted.
Speaker 1: You know that whole Well, you know, if such a
Speaker 1: such coach comes to Houston, I'm gonna trust that quarterback
Speaker 1: is good because that guy knows. Um. That's not always
Speaker 1: a guy is good if guy's good, not because that
Speaker 1: coach sees that a guy is good if he's good.
Speaker 1: Givanny Carmazzi was not, and he didn't want to play football.
Speaker 1: That's also the traits versus do you have the work
Speaker 1: ethic to improve? And not only the work ethic? Are
Speaker 1: you going to improve if you put the work in? All? Right?
Speaker 1: So I mentioned the Buccaneers continue with the NFC playoff
Speaker 1: team quarterbacks where they came from the Cowboys. You're a guy, okay,
Speaker 1: dak fourth rounder wanted to be a Texan first of all,
Speaker 1: but ended up with that other team, that other team, Giants. Okay,
Speaker 1: first round quarterback, damn quarterback. Yeah, and the Seattle Seahawks
Speaker 1: Johnny Gino Smith second rounder. I was high on Gino.
Speaker 1: I thought, Gino, this is the Gino I thought we
Speaker 1: would see a lot earlier. But as it happens, in
Speaker 1: a lot of places, you don't have success, you kind
Speaker 1: of bounce around, you don't get another opportunity, and then Seattle,
Speaker 1: this kind of freaky opportunity ops up opens up where well,
Speaker 1: they're gonna trade Russell Wilson, so who's left while they're
Speaker 1: gonna bring over Drew Lock and well, you know Geno's there,
Speaker 1: So I don't know, they're gonna let those two fight
Speaker 1: it out. Really, they're not gonna go sign a quarterback.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna go trade for a quarterback. They're not
Speaker 1: gonna draft a quarterback. No, they're gonna go with one
Speaker 1: of those two guys. And it looks like it's Gino.
Speaker 1: He gets an opportunity, he fits in the offense, offense
Speaker 1: fits him, He has a great year. I mean, sometimes
Speaker 1: it's rocket signs, sometimes it really isn't. Sometimes it's just
Speaker 1: dump pure luck. But I think the Seahawks kind of
Speaker 1: hit on all of it with Gino. I think he's
Speaker 1: a He's a really interesting test case and how you
Speaker 1: go about acquiring a quarterback, because you remember the offseason
Speaker 1: the Broncos when that trade was made and they give
Speaker 1: out grades for the draft or they the you know,
Speaker 1: the national media, they loved what the Broncos did. Oh,
Speaker 1: they went out got Russell Wilson. The Broncos are gonna
Speaker 1: be all out a bag of chips, And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Man kind of goes along with thought
Speaker 1: that the team that saw Russell Wilson every single day
Speaker 1: that needs a quarterback thoughts so little of him to
Speaker 1: trade him to a different team. So from that standpoint,
Speaker 1: Gino Smith's a really interesting test case I think, and
Speaker 1: how you go about acquiring a quarterback, because that I
Speaker 1: think is I think Gino Smith could only happen in
Speaker 1: a certain few spots because I don't think it can
Speaker 1: happen where it coaches jobs on the line. I don't
Speaker 1: think it could happen where you'd have a young coach.
Speaker 1: I think it had to be like an established guy
Speaker 1: like Pete Carroll. Yeah, Like I don't know that would
Speaker 1: happen in a lot of different places. Like I think
Speaker 1: a Gino Smith could happen in Tennessee with Mike Rabel
Speaker 1: because he's got enough enough stroke that, yeah, you're always
Speaker 1: gonna feel pressure's head coach, but I don't think his
Speaker 1: job's on the line because of what he's proven he
Speaker 1: can do as a head coach. That's the kind of place.
Speaker 1: There are only certain types of places that I think
Speaker 1: were that kind of situation could have evolved the way
Speaker 1: it did for Gino. Well. In the NFC, six of
Speaker 1: the seven teams that made the playoffs have non first
Speaker 1: round quarterbacks, correct, non first round draft roice quarterbacks in
Speaker 1: many cases third or lower and there it is. So
Speaker 1: in the AFC it was all first round guys, all
Speaker 1: first round two number one overalls. You have also Herbert Yea,
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson late in the first round. You have Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes number ten overall. So those are all first round guys.
Speaker 1: So a mixed bag, if you will. Out of the
Speaker 1: fourteen playoff teams, six of them non first round quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: the other a drafted in the first round. We bring
Speaker 1: this up because as all six in the NFC, all
Speaker 1: six were in the NFC. We bring this up because,
Speaker 1: as Damiko Ryan said, the Texans everly one quarterback on
Speaker 1: the roster. We knew who that is, and they're looking
Speaker 1: for quarterbacks. So we'll see how they get them. And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they should get them outside of the
Speaker 1: first round and they shouldn't go for a quarterback in
Speaker 1: the first round. I'm not saying that at all. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying there are many different ways to get this
Speaker 1: done quickly to the twenty twenty one playoffs. All right,
Speaker 1: San Francisco, Dallas, all right, non first round, non first round,
Speaker 1: Arizona and the Rams now the Rams. That's a free
Speaker 1: agent acquisition. But he was once upon a time number
Speaker 1: one overall. I always think that's different because Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: was traded for the value that you would trade or
Speaker 1: signed to a contract that you would give a former
Speaker 1: number one overall pick. In fact, once about a time
Speaker 1: they traded for Sam Bradford, a number one overall pick
Speaker 1: Philadelphia and Tampa Bay. There we go again. So last year,
Speaker 1: out of the NFC teams, and there's one number one
Speaker 1: overall pick that was traded to a team, and there
Speaker 1: was another number one overall pick in Arizona that made
Speaker 1: it AFC, Vegas and Cincinnati. Okay, No, and yes, as
Speaker 1: far as non first round, first round, New England and Buffalo,
Speaker 1: all right, first round, first round, Pittsburgh and Kansas City
Speaker 1: first round, first round because last year was Ben Roethlisberger. Yes,
Speaker 1: so there you have, all right, all right, but so it's,
Speaker 1: you know, very often a mixed bag, Johnny. As far
Speaker 1: as where the quarterbacks come from. Now, look, I don't
Speaker 1: have to go through every draft. I did though personally
Speaker 1: since two thousand and eight, to go through you know
Speaker 1: what quarterbacks made it, what quarterbacks didn't. You know who
Speaker 1: the top quarterbacks were taken, how they did. I'll just
Speaker 1: give you you want to go through a little broad
Speaker 1: stroke course of stuff. Okay, And oh wait, Matt Ryan
Speaker 1: top quarterback, taking number three overall, great career. Flacco was
Speaker 1: taken by the Ravens eighteenth with a pick they acquired
Speaker 1: from the Texans and the Dwayne Brown deal. Dwayne Brown
Speaker 1: taken later that round. But Flacco. Nice career, still in
Speaker 1: the league, really nice career, no doubt about it. Once
Speaker 1: upon a time Super Bowl winner. Matt Ryan is not.
Speaker 1: And then you go down the list and mixed bag.
Speaker 1: Chad Henney just retired rear backup started some games. We
Speaker 1: all know that Josh Johnson. John Johnson was taken in
Speaker 1: that DRAFTS eight, two thousand and eight. All right, here's
Speaker 1: your tribute question. Who is this head coaching college? That
Speaker 1: was Jim Harbaugh. He went to the University of San Diego,
Speaker 1: not San Diego State, San Diego, the Division two school,
Speaker 1: the Torio ars Terria doors pere Rose. You don't have
Speaker 1: said anything and people would have believed you. They don't
Speaker 1: know the nickname of San Diego. I mean, I know,
Speaker 1: I just can't pronounce it, which is probably something I
Speaker 1: should do because I work in the announcing business. But
Speaker 1: I'm gonna work on this during the break. Actually, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, So the OH nine draft, Matthew Stafford goes
Speaker 1: number one overall. Sanchez, the next quarterback taken in the
Speaker 1: first round out of USC, of course, goes to the
Speaker 1: Jets back to back pretty good years. But the team
Speaker 1: was really good and they went to back to back
Speaker 1: AFC championship games. Josh Freeman, Tampa Bay the only other
Speaker 1: third rounder in that draft. The rest of the way,
Speaker 1: who do we have that's any good? I'm looking on nine? Yeah,
Speaker 1: how about this? You want to want to know a
Speaker 1: fun fact from the OH nine draft? Quarterback wise, Julian
Speaker 1: Edelman was picked as a quarterback because that's how he
Speaker 1: came out as a quarterback from Kent State. That pick
Speaker 1: in the seventh round was acquired from the Patriots or
Speaker 1: by the Patriots from Miami. So you get Welker from
Speaker 1: Miami in a trade. You get Edelman with a pick
Speaker 1: that you got from Miami. Hey, Dolphins, don't do any
Speaker 1: dealing with the Patriots. Yeah, you do it. You're crazy
Speaker 1: back to back career Hall of Fame caliber receivers. Welker's
Speaker 1: not gonna make the Hall of Fame, but Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame caliber. Yeah, No, he deserves his own kind of
Speaker 1: Hall of fame, the Welker Hall of Fame. The Welker,
Speaker 1: the Danny m and Doola Welker Julian Edelman type hall
Speaker 1: of Fame. I don't know, does Edelman make the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame? No? No, ed'nna have some tremendous big games.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question now. Obviously, just a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVP. He may arguably the greatest catching the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl without using his helmet, which is the one
Speaker 1: that he made here like one hundred yards away from
Speaker 1: where we are right now, and he's played, he played
Speaker 1: tremendous and certainly I just can't I can't see it.
Speaker 1: I can't see it. I mean, if the big game performances, yeah,
Speaker 1: those matter, those really matter. But I don't think over
Speaker 1: the course of time, even as tough as he was.
Speaker 1: And it's hard in this. It's hard for me to
Speaker 1: say this because I loved Edelman. I'll never forget we
Speaker 1: went up there in sixteen. Who could the Thursday night
Speaker 1: game at sixteen they are just raking us over the
Speaker 1: coals and making us like it. Well, the defense in
Speaker 1: that games sort of once they got rocked in a
Speaker 1: second quarter, they kind of settled down from that point.
Speaker 1: But we're down. I think, I don't It's twenty two
Speaker 1: enough that I think edn't want to thirty yards down
Speaker 1: field pancaking one of our defensive backs. I can't remember
Speaker 1: who it was pancaking, I mean literally blocking him and
Speaker 1: knocking him on the turf as I think it was
Speaker 1: La Garrett Blunt was it? Look? I think it was
Speaker 1: the Garrett ran down the sideline for a long touchdown,
Speaker 1: like a fifty yard touchdown, and Edelman is just boom,
Speaker 1: just taking somebody to the turf. And then he's getting
Speaker 1: over him and he's just flexing him like they're twenty nothing.
Speaker 1: He could have just mailed in a stock block and
Speaker 1: just that's it. He pancaked r dB and I was like,
Speaker 1: that's that's kind of badass right there. I gotta admit,
Speaker 1: and he that's just that's the way he played. And
Speaker 1: whenever we played him, we couldn't stop him. We couldn't
Speaker 1: stop him until the last game that we faced him
Speaker 1: was twenty nineteen, and we did him. That was the
Speaker 1: only game that we were able to stop him. Bradley
Speaker 1: Roby nice little pick there early on, relatively much that
Speaker 1: was good. I don't want to go through all the drafts,
Speaker 1: but you look at how many guys, and this scares
Speaker 1: you about quarterbacks, how many players don't make it versus
Speaker 1: how many do make it. And you look at Sam
Speaker 1: Bradford in twenty ten, who had all the talent in
Speaker 1: the world, had some moments, especially against this team, but
Speaker 1: ultimately you can't say he made it. And he was
Speaker 1: the last of the fully guaranteed pre new collective margaining agreement.
Speaker 1: In twenty eleven, he had a huge deal and got
Speaker 1: traded to the Vikings. Eventually beat the Texans in twenty
Speaker 1: sixteen as a Viking ouch. But twenty eleven, then you
Speaker 1: look at Cam Newton, well worth it, but Jake Locker
Speaker 1: blamed Gabbert Christian Ponder ouch didn't have the careers they wanted.
Speaker 1: Ponder actually a playoff quarterback once upon a time, Andy Dalton,
Speaker 1: who was tweeting this week at about Andy Dalton doing
Speaker 1: a tape breakdown about how Andy Dalton, if he's an
Speaker 1: average quarterback, how good you have to be as a
Speaker 1: good point, gosh, I want to get the guy's name right.
Speaker 1: How good you have to beat to just be average,
Speaker 1: and how many throws the quote average quarterback can make
Speaker 1: in this league. And we take it for granted because
Speaker 1: Dalton's had a lot of playoff appearances but obviously has
Speaker 1: not been everything in the world, all world kind of guy. No,
Speaker 1: I mean player, He's a great guy, whatever, he just
Speaker 1: hasn't panned out the way you'd hope based on the
Speaker 1: playoff appearances in Cincinnati. Kaepernick went in that twenty eleven
Speaker 1: draft and went to a Super Bowl with the San
Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers. Who else, Oh yeah, our buddy
Speaker 1: t J. Yates and Ryan Mallen and all these kinds
Speaker 1: of guys Tyrod Taylor went in that draft. Again, they
Speaker 1: can come from anywhere. Johnny, I'm gonna fast forward here
Speaker 1: because we'll run out a segment before we get to
Speaker 1: all of this. But let's go right to the class
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty two. I'm sorry, twenty twenty one, that
Speaker 1: draft class with your guy Trevor Lawrence, you and andre
Speaker 1: generational talent. He's starting to play like it. I still
Speaker 1: say he's good for that key pick when you need it,
Speaker 1: But we can get to that later. Texans three and
Speaker 1: one all time against Trevor Lawrence. Did I mention that, Yes,
Speaker 1: without our best stuff? Hey, there's that, there is that wow.
Speaker 1: But look at the top of this draft. You have
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. Then you have Zach Wilson. Wilson's really good,
Speaker 1: not so much. Don't know what's going to happen with
Speaker 1: him here on out. Trey Lance really good number three
Speaker 1: pick in the draft. Is he I don't know, gets
Speaker 1: hurt a lot. Will he ever materialize to be the
Speaker 1: player they want him to be? Justin fields? He's awesome
Speaker 1: out of Ohio State. Well, we know he's a great runner.
Speaker 1: He does make some throws. He took a big leap
Speaker 1: forward this year. Does he take another leap forward? Hey,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of media conjecture about maybe you should
Speaker 1: trade Justin Fields and take a quarterback with the number
Speaker 1: one overall pick, because hey, Bryce Young is sitting right there.
Speaker 1: And then our buddy Mac Jones followed, well, these are
Speaker 1: the first round guys. I'll leave Trask out of it
Speaker 1: for now. Mac Jones, the only other first round quarterback taken,
Speaker 1: has actually done some things, but not enough in New England. However,
Speaker 1: he's the guy moving forward, at least in the relatively
Speaker 1: short term period here, so very hit or miss, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna go to twenty twenty, all right, go to
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Number one overall Joe Burrow. Yep, that worked
Speaker 1: out pretty well. Number five over working out well so far.
Speaker 1: Number five overall Justin Herbert. Nope, oh sorry, number six
Speaker 1: overall Herbert Herbert. Yeah. Now, jury is still out a
Speaker 1: little bit on too, just because you know the health
Speaker 1: factor and concussions. But when health, when healthy, he's looked
Speaker 1: really with Mike McDaniel, Yeah, he's looked extremely I mean
Speaker 1: we always say, oh, they're not all gonna pan out.
Speaker 1: Are they Well, you look at twenty twenty, twenty twenty. Look,
Speaker 1: they look really good, because they're really good. Jordan Love
Speaker 1: was taken. We don't know who what he is yet.
Speaker 1: We really don't know. I think we're gonna find out.
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll find out very soon this year. Then Jalen hurts, Wow, wow,
Speaker 1: second round, fifty third overall, this class panning out very nicely. Yes,
Speaker 1: with the exception of the health issues of two U
Speaker 1: and the lack of opportunity for Love, that's not bad.
Speaker 1: Let's see where it goes from here. Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: what you're hoping. This year's class is accept whoever for
Speaker 1: the Colts pick. Yeah, that's what we're hoping. This year's
Speaker 1: class is right in some sense, we hope that the
Speaker 1: Colts draft Jordan Love, who doesn't get on the field
Speaker 1: for three years, and then we don't know. I do
Speaker 1: think that when Jordan Loves given an opportunity, I've thought
Speaker 1: this for a while, that Jordan Love was gonna make
Speaker 1: make a ton out of the opportunity. I think that
Speaker 1: Jordan Love will look back, sort of like Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: and say, you know what, it wasn't great to sit
Speaker 1: there your competitor. You don't want to sit there and
Speaker 1: you get a couple of you get a couple of
Speaker 1: starts in week eighteen or whatever the case might be,
Speaker 1: or when Aaron's been hurt, do you haven't had a
Speaker 1: chance to do a whole heck of a lot. I
Speaker 1: think what Jordan Love gets on the field, I think
Speaker 1: people are gonna be like, yo, yeah, all right, I
Speaker 1: see what he's got. My point with twenty twenty is,
Speaker 1: if you look at twenty twenty one, there have been
Speaker 1: some there've been some hits, there's been some missus. Twy
Speaker 1: twenty two, there's only one quarterback and Canny pick it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there were times it looked pretty good. I think we're
Speaker 1: getting to a point now where where teams I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think teams do the quarterback thing differently than they
Speaker 1: did in the in the past. And I kind of
Speaker 1: noticed that a little bit with with us here in
Speaker 1: seventeen when we had when we had Deshaun Watson. You know,
Speaker 1: Bill had an offense that obviously they've been running forever.
Speaker 1: But I do not forget him saying to me after
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati game as a rookie in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: I'm like yeah, coach, you know, your fourth quarter offense
Speaker 1: really got going. Yeah, you know, we you know, threw
Speaker 1: in some plays that you know from Clemson that made
Speaker 1: Deshaun more comfortable. I think coaches are understanding that if
Speaker 1: we want to get the most out of this guy,
Speaker 1: we've got to be able to and I think Zach
Speaker 1: Wilson is a test case for this. I think he
Speaker 1: went to he went to New York and they force
Speaker 1: fed him a lot, and in doing and giving him
Speaker 1: a lot, you're breaking Mike's over there. Wow. Very nice.
Speaker 1: I am just not in nowhere, But I think that coaches,
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that they're cow talent to every
Speaker 1: young talent and doing exactly what what every young talent
Speaker 1: wants or needs, but I think they're doing a better
Speaker 1: job of understanding, if we're gonna draft this guy, we
Speaker 1: gotta have these certain things in place to make him
Speaker 1: a better quarterback going forward. And it doesn't always happen,
Speaker 1: but I feel like because there is such an emphasis
Speaker 1: on that position, and because there is such pressure when
Speaker 1: you draft a player at that position, that you better
Speaker 1: have it right. Whether it's a quarterback, coach, offensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: overall scheme, the environment that they're walking into, the offensive
Speaker 1: skill players they're throwing the ball to, and you just
Speaker 1: think about Mahomes. Look, Alex Smith was doing fine with
Speaker 1: Kelsey and with Tyreek, and then everything was in place.
Speaker 1: So then they plot Mahomes in. Yeah, he still had hiccups,
Speaker 1: but everything was there around him. Andy Read a great
Speaker 1: play caller. The enemy was there, Naggie was there. Doug
Speaker 1: Peterson was not quite there yet, he was already gone.
Speaker 1: The offensive pieces that you wanted an right there, they
Speaker 1: popped them in. It's kind of a fail safe, you know.
Speaker 1: So you look at other situations, and it's not always
Speaker 1: that way because a lot of teams are drafting. Those
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are drafting because they stunk. The Jets put those
Speaker 1: pieces around Wilson, but there was so much on his
Speaker 1: shoulders and he just could never, could never get out
Speaker 1: of his own head. He's one situation, you know. But
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, what happened with Donald, What happened with Sam Donald?
Speaker 1: When the Jets drafted him in twenty eighteen eighteen, we
Speaker 1: saw him up there, We saw him like, man, he's
Speaker 1: giving us a hard time, and then for some reason,
Speaker 1: just away it went. He still shows you flashes absolutely
Speaker 1: toward when he got back in there this year, right,
Speaker 1: he looks a little good for a while. So then
Speaker 1: in that draft, I think twenty eighteen is a really
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen to me is kind of the year you
Speaker 1: look at and go honestly normal. But you had Baker
Speaker 1: going number one overall, and he had a success early
Speaker 1: and then when he hit a valley, he got in
Speaker 1: his own way. Then you had Sam Darnold, then you
Speaker 1: had Josh Allen. Then at the very end you had
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. So you were all over the map with
Speaker 1: all these different styles of quarterbacks. But the teams that
Speaker 1: really figured it out and got it right, like Baltimore
Speaker 1: crafted an offense around Lamar, Josh Allen and the Bills,
Speaker 1: even though I've said, and I think because Josh's passing
Speaker 1: acumen has improved, I don't think they need to run
Speaker 1: him as much. But Buffalo took that offense, Brian Dable
Speaker 1: took it kind of crafted around what Josh could do,
Speaker 1: and then they added a bunch of pieces. But Josh
Speaker 1: Allen didn't go to another level till twenty twenty when
Speaker 1: what they traded for Stefon Diggs. Putting pieces around that
Speaker 1: particular player and quarterback. I think that's that to me,
Speaker 1: is is gonna end up being the key whoever's gonna
Speaker 1: hate quarterback here, whoever it's gonna be. Pieces around him
Speaker 1: have got to improve. The offensive schemes got to improve,
Speaker 1: the offensive executions got to improve, and just the overall
Speaker 1: plan of how they go about things offensively has got
Speaker 1: to improve to help that quarterback and vice versa. The
Speaker 1: quarterback help all of that maneuver in the right direction. Well,
Speaker 1: he's got to get better, like we always say, he's
Speaker 1: got to get better. The thing about Tuah, you tell
Speaker 1: me the twenty twenty draft. During the twenty nineteen NFL season,
Speaker 1: what was the battle cry among the fans in Miami
Speaker 1: Tank for tak Thank for the number one guy. There's
Speaker 1: no question about this. At what point does Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: overtake Tuah as the consensus outside looking in anyway number
Speaker 1: one prospect in that draft? Did it happen right after
Speaker 1: the championship before the championship. It happened for me when
Speaker 1: and I don't I don't mean this because it was
Speaker 1: against Toua. It had nothing to do with that, But
Speaker 1: it was when Joe Burrow all all these games he
Speaker 1: had played, he was just lighting everybody up. It's like,
Speaker 1: let's see him do it against Bama. Let's see him
Speaker 1: do it against Alabama. And then he did it, and
Speaker 1: if he does it against Alabama, I'll start believing. And
Speaker 1: then not only did he do it against Alabama, he
Speaker 1: was he was unstoppable against Alabama and he did it
Speaker 1: what he runs, he was unbelievable against Alabama. That's when
Speaker 1: I was like, and it had nothing to do with too.
Speaker 1: Two had a great game in that game, too, had
Speaker 1: nothing to do with what two was doing or not doing.
Speaker 1: It was Joe Burrow that day beating the one defense
Speaker 1: that everybody felt like, Okay, can he do that? Can
Speaker 1: he beat that defense? There's no way it's not happening.
Speaker 1: Because the year before in Baton Rouge, that defense ate
Speaker 1: him alive. And then all of a sudden, he goes
Speaker 1: to Tuscaloosa in nineteen and he shredded them, shredded them.
Speaker 1: I thought, Okay, this is wow, this is this is different,
Speaker 1: this is different. And then after that game, he just
Speaker 1: went another level every single week until he was, you know,
Speaker 1: finishing it against Clempson in the National Championship Game. All right.
Speaker 1: We will continue this conversation from now until the end
Speaker 1: of time, actually until the Texans solidified their quarterback situation.
Speaker 1: I hope that's sooner than the end of time. It
Speaker 1: will be. We have free agency coming up, the draft
Speaker 1: coming up, Combine next week. Next up Who's Better? We
Speaker 1: will feature all Star games. I wonder how that came
Speaker 1: up other leagues. I wonder how that came up other
Speaker 1: coaches and draft prospects. Why not? It's next? Is Texans Radio?
Speaker 1: Great to have you listening this evening, Texans All Access,
Speaker 1: Mark Vandermayer and John Harris with you, and we are
Speaker 1: ready to play Who's Better? We usually do this on Thursdays,
Speaker 1: but we're kind of mixing things up in the offseason.
Speaker 1: Let's do this, Johnny, Are you ready to play? Of course? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: And geez, Who's better? The XFL or the new USFL
Speaker 1: going into its second season. This is the third installment
Speaker 1: of the XFL, which just relaunched this weekend. Which one
Speaker 1: is better? Johnny? I'm gonna give the XFL the edge
Speaker 1: for one reason, and one reason only is in it's crazy.
Speaker 1: I get why the USFL has done it this way,
Speaker 1: but I like the fact that the XFL plays in
Speaker 1: the cities in which they claim to be Ye. Thank
Speaker 1: USFL did everything in Birmingham, which I understand was to
Speaker 1: keep expenses down. I understand that. But they gotta in
Speaker 1: some ways find a connection to the city they're in.
Speaker 1: They're not just well, we're the Houston Gamblers when we
Speaker 1: play every game in Birmingham. Uh okay, nobody as nobody
Speaker 1: in Houston even understands what's going on. They have no clue.
Speaker 1: And people in Houston have a connection out to the Roughnecks.
Speaker 1: So yeah, there's a little one there at least here, Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: And if the Gamblers were here, there might be who knows,
Speaker 1: there was back in the day when the USFL existed
Speaker 1: in the eighties. Love those games, Yeah, Jim Kelly and
Speaker 1: those guys. Those guys were gunslingers. Oh wait, that was
Speaker 1: another USFL team based in San Antonio. But those guys
Speaker 1: threw the ball at awful lot. They were fun to watch.
Speaker 1: They ran that run and shoot stuff and it was good.
Speaker 1: Our buddy Tony Fitzpatrick, we had him on during training camp.
Speaker 1: He was visiting camp, but we had him on the
Speaker 1: ear talking about those days. I'm with you, there's no
Speaker 1: question that playing in front of fans is a better
Speaker 1: way to go this just in I do love those
Speaker 1: old USFL unis, I do, and they modernize them. But look,
Speaker 1: I full disclosure here, I have a Boston Breakers shirt.
Speaker 1: They're not called the Boston Breakers anymore. They're the New
Speaker 1: Orleans Breakers because that was the second city in which
Speaker 1: the Breakers were located. But I remember watching them in
Speaker 1: Boston out of my dorm room window. So I love
Speaker 1: the Breakers back in the day, and I still have
Speaker 1: a Breakers shirt. I reordered it a reissue year. That's
Speaker 1: the only difference. I would say. Yeah, all the USFL teams,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think back to those are fun games
Speaker 1: to watch. The USFL did what a Maverick league, if
Speaker 1: you want to call it that. They that league did
Speaker 1: what it was supposed to do. It went out, It
Speaker 1: fought for players the NFL, and it won in the one.
Speaker 1: Steve Young, they got Steve Young, they'd Reggie White. But
Speaker 1: the Memphis show Boats, I mean Kelly, they went out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly Herschel. Jim Kelly. There's a famous line in
Speaker 1: the in the thirty for thirty about the Bills, where
Speaker 1: he's being interviewed here in Houston, and he's asked about
Speaker 1: why why Buffalo over Houston. He's like, it's Houston over Buffalo.
Speaker 1: Like we're outside today, it's you know, whatever degrees it
Speaker 1: is in Houston versus what it is in Buffalo. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's not And he said it's not very hard to see,
Speaker 1: of course, that he ends up in Buffaloe and beat
Speaker 1: the Winters. Yeah, well that was Frank Rych though, So
Speaker 1: there was exactly. But the point being, I used to
Speaker 1: love those USFL teas. I just think the XFL has
Speaker 1: because it's playing right now here in Houston's probably got
Speaker 1: a better a better connection to the city itself, and
Speaker 1: I would like see it for the USFL. If that
Speaker 1: happens for the USFL, I'll probably see the USFL. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe with those uniforms and everything in the league support
Speaker 1: they get from the networks. But look, it all shows
Speaker 1: you that there's nothing like the real thing, baby, and
Speaker 1: that would be the NFL. All right, who's better? Let's continue?
Speaker 1: What's better? The Pro Bowl games as it is now
Speaker 1: or the way the Pro Bowl most recently was, which
Speaker 1: was basically a patty cake thud game in pads? Would
Speaker 1: you rather have it the way it was in previous years.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about like in the eighties and early
Speaker 1: nineties when people still really hit in the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the recent Pro Bowls at actual NFL
Speaker 1: sort of game or this version with the touch football.
Speaker 1: In other words, did they improve on it or not.
Speaker 1: I think the the Pro Bowl games were intriguing the
Speaker 1: game itself. The last few years. I didn't care. I
Speaker 1: didn't watch it. I have not watched an All Star
Speaker 1: contest of any kind, and I don't know how long
Speaker 1: I have not watched. I didn't watch the Baseball Star Game.
Speaker 1: If I did, that would be the one I would watch,
Speaker 1: because they micup players out in the outfield and mike
Speaker 1: them up at short the micup pictures. I like hearing
Speaker 1: that stuff, hear what they're thinking talking with John Smoltz
Speaker 1: or whoever that might be. I'll watch that. I've watched
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl and I haven't watched the NBA All
Speaker 1: Star Game for years either one. But the Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: games I at least watched some of it. I was
Speaker 1: curious to see what they had going on. I was
Speaker 1: intrigued by it. And then the Flight Football game was
Speaker 1: cool that different things going on during game. I like that,
Speaker 1: although that was cool. I'd like the Pro Bowl games,
Speaker 1: so they approved on it. Yes, good stuff, all right?
Speaker 1: Who's better better results in a higher Carolina with Frank
Speaker 1: Reich or Denver with Sean Payton. Who's gonna do better Johnny,
Speaker 1: Frank Reich and Carolina, Sean Payton and Denver? This comes
Speaker 1: down to one question, and we all know what it is.
Speaker 1: What Russell Wilson will show up. If Russell Wilson is
Speaker 1: the Russell Wilson we saw for the majority of his
Speaker 1: career Sean Payton all day every day. Now, what comes first?
Speaker 1: Chicken in the egg to Shaun Payton? Make Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: that guy? Would Frank Reich have made Russell Wilson that guy?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just know that last year wasn't it.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing that I worries me if I'm a
Speaker 1: Broncos fan. Twenty twenty one, if you watch closely enough,
Speaker 1: that wasn't it either, And for the most part in
Speaker 1: either it was twenty twenty. Now it is a COVID year,
Speaker 1: so you know, okay, but really the last three years
Speaker 1: for Russell Wilson, You go, man, I not all the
Speaker 1: way there on this, so they were Craig Craig so
Speaker 1: I don't know that the I mean the biggest trading
Speaker 1: for Russell Wilson. I had no issue with the broncos
Speaker 1: I thought it was a good move, like oh to
Speaker 1: Degree giving him the contract was adiotic, Yeah, but the contract,
Speaker 1: the trade capital was still it was pretty rich. That
Speaker 1: that was a bit much that all said. Um, I
Speaker 1: vote Peyton. I think he's he's won a super Bowl,
Speaker 1: He's been around obviously longer as a head coach. I
Speaker 1: have always liked Frank Reich always, and I hate saying
Speaker 1: that because he has obviously a famous one over the others,
Speaker 1: but I never held it against him. Always feel like
Speaker 1: he was a true professional. I feel like the way
Speaker 1: he went about his business, I felt like he was
Speaker 1: he was handed um kind of a crazy deck when
Speaker 1: he went to Indianapolis, especially this last year. But unfortunately
Speaker 1: what happened to him, Hey, I can make Carson Wentz work.
Speaker 1: And then with Carson Wentz didn't work. And it wasn't
Speaker 1: so much that Carson Wentz on the field was a failure,
Speaker 1: but him getting COVID or he didn't get COVID. But
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. He was a close contact
Speaker 1: to someone COVID and he had to sit out because
Speaker 1: that those are the rules. As a leader of the
Speaker 1: team he had that can happen. It happened in the
Speaker 1: most important week. They lose. Then he plays terribly against Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: That's in the house of cards. Unfortunately fell well, unfortunately, fortunately,
Speaker 1: unfortunately it fell for the cards. So I've always liked Frank,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go Sean Payton on this. I think
Speaker 1: Payton's gonna I think Peyton will pull every ounce of
Speaker 1: success out of Russell Wilson, and if he doesn't there
Speaker 1: one year further removed, maybe they can do something with
Speaker 1: the contract. But Mark that salary cap hit for Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson is no joke, Yes, and I know joke. This
Speaker 1: is another reason, Holy Count. I'm gonna favor Frank Reich
Speaker 1: in this deal because of the division, because I think
Speaker 1: even if Denver well, they could still be no better
Speaker 1: than the third best team in that division, behind the
Speaker 1: Chargers and the Kansas City Chiefs. I don't think the
Speaker 1: Raiders are gonna do much, but you never know. And
Speaker 1: I think Carolina has got wide open virgin forest there
Speaker 1: in the NFC South. If they get it right at
Speaker 1: quarterback and Wright doesn't have to be the franchise guy necessarily,
Speaker 1: just a Geno Smith type performance out of somebody might
Speaker 1: be enough to win that division for Carolina. Do we
Speaker 1: know any of the quarterbacks in the NFC South, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we can guess, but Falcons. Do we know? No, Panthers,
Speaker 1: No Saints. No, that's a great point, Bucks. No, we
Speaker 1: don't know a quarterback. In the end. It's a mystery
Speaker 1: quarterback division. I think it's great. It's great fun, great
Speaker 1: talk for them all offseason long. Who who's gonna going
Speaker 1: to really lead those teams? I wonder who's gonna quarterback
Speaker 1: Kansas City this year? Yeah? I think we know that.
Speaker 1: All right, who's better? Let's continue better career? Now we'll
Speaker 1: go draft prospects here, and dare we not talk about
Speaker 1: a quarterback draft prospect? Let's talk about receivers. Better prospect
Speaker 1: from USC Jordan Addison or from TCU Quentin Um I
Speaker 1: have Johnston? Did I not say that? Rated? That's what
Speaker 1: you said. I just make it sure because I've heard
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of that out there, and
Speaker 1: I went on a little rant the other day about it.
Speaker 1: Um I have Johnston rated higher, and here's where I separated.
Speaker 1: I think Quintin Johnston, at six four two seventeen has
Speaker 1: e lee traits in size speed that Jordan Addison doesn't have. Now,
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean Jordan Adison's slow. Jordan Adison is not slow.
Speaker 1: He is. He can fly, but he's six foot one
Speaker 1: seventy five and that that makes a major difference. I
Speaker 1: think that Jordan Addison is a much more polished receiving threat,
Speaker 1: but I think Johnston learning the game at the NFL
Speaker 1: level can be a freaka zoid. So I think Quentin
Speaker 1: Johnston is that he's higher on my Harris one hundred
Speaker 1: than Jordan Addison is not by much. There's like two
Speaker 1: spots that separate him. But that's that's the dilemma I had,
Speaker 1: because I feel like Addison's a better overall receive for
Speaker 1: doing receiver things than Johnston is. But Johnson is such
Speaker 1: a freaky athlete and can still do the receiver things,
Speaker 1: just not as well and as polished as Addison. Okay,
Speaker 1: I've got one more quick one for your TV viewer.
Speaker 1: Help here. What's better? So who's better? What's better? TV
Speaker 1: viewing experience on Netflix? Formula one reality series or the
Speaker 1: Full Swing Golf reality series. This is tough because one
Speaker 1: resurrected the sport the F one series Ready to Drive.
Speaker 1: I think it's called Formula Drive. I mean, it's incredible.
Speaker 1: It got me interested in F one. I've been interested
Speaker 1: in golf, but I think I've learned more about the
Speaker 1: golfers F one. I've learned everything about the sport, where
Speaker 1: they drove, how it worked. I'm gonna say the F
Speaker 1: one show because that, to me just changed everything. I
Speaker 1: didn't even care about driving. I really care about NASCAR,
Speaker 1: but I watched those I wanted to know. I've sat
Speaker 1: and watched the full Monaco Race in twenty two because
Speaker 1: i watched all those F one shows. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go F one. Yeah, I like tremendous. I haven't finished
Speaker 1: the Golf show yet. I got two or three episodes left.
Speaker 1: I watched maybe episode one of the F one series.
Speaker 1: I need to jump back into that one Full Swing though,
Speaker 1: I am right in that I just started. I'm already
Speaker 1: on episode four, so I'm not fully binging. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna missleep the Binges show. I'm matured beyond that. Must
Speaker 1: The show is really good. I'm matured beyond that. But man,
Speaker 1: that brooks Kepka episode tells you everything you need to
Speaker 1: know about golf and a guy who is piping hot,
Speaker 1: hottest golfer in the world, and how he lost his confidence,
Speaker 1: and how you can have everything in the world. You
Speaker 1: can have all the money, you could have majors, you
Speaker 1: could have the smoking hot wife, smoking hot house. But
Speaker 1: if you don't have your act together professionally or in
Speaker 1: what you really love to do, you might be miserable.
Speaker 1: And this is a great example of that. And I'm
Speaker 1: curious to see where his career goes. He's with Live now,
Speaker 1: which you know, when you watch this show, you see
Speaker 1: why he did it. He how disruptive Live was to
Speaker 1: the Gulf world. That still is crazy to me. It's
Speaker 1: been unbelievable, still is. It's weird stuff. All right, Johnny,
Speaker 1: thank you, And next up, Phil Harrison Buckeye Wire talks
Speaker 1: with Deep City about c J. Stroud. You've heard of him.
Speaker 1: All you need to know about that quarterback prospect coming
Speaker 1: up here on Texans Radio. All right, final segment here
Speaker 1: on the show tonight, Let's get into quarterback prospects. This
Speaker 1: one CJ. Stroud from Ohio State, and Deep City catches
Speaker 1: up with Phil Harrison of Buck Guy Wire to talk
Speaker 1: about what Stroud brings to the table, part of a
Speaker 1: series Deep is doing with reporters who cover these guys
Speaker 1: coming out of college. Phil, I feel like last year
Speaker 1: were talking wide receivers and this year we're going to
Speaker 1: talk quarterback with CJ. Stroud. What are your thoughts about
Speaker 1: him in this whole quarterback debate CJ versus Bryce Young.
Speaker 1: I know people in Houston love talking about it, but
Speaker 1: give us your best pitch for CJ. Stroud being the
Speaker 1: number one quarterback. Sure, you know best pitch, you know
Speaker 1: obviously coming from the Ohio State side of things, but
Speaker 1: seen CJ. Strout a lot more than than Bryce Young.
Speaker 1: I'm not taking anything away from Bryce Young because clearly
Speaker 1: I think you could, you can. You're not gonna go
Speaker 1: wrong either way. There. What CJ has that Bryce probably
Speaker 1: doesn't have is you know, you always worry about the
Speaker 1: hype factor, right. They factor has been talked about with
Speaker 1: Bryce Young the lot. CJ. Strout has the measurables. He's
Speaker 1: he's kind of long, he's got m he's six foot three,
Speaker 1: can see over defenses, so he kind of has that
Speaker 1: the prototypical historical quarterback body. Right. Um, so there's that
Speaker 1: now we've seen in the past here recently that that
Speaker 1: there's been plenty of quarterbacks overcome that hype thing. You know,
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray comes to mind. Um, you know, there's just
Speaker 1: guys that have shown that's not really as big a
Speaker 1: deal as maybe some some people thought. But the scout said,
Speaker 1: executives are going to look at that, They're gonna look
Speaker 1: at the hYP they're gona look at everything. And then
Speaker 1: the other thing I would say that sets Cj apart
Speaker 1: from Bryce Young is his accuracy. He's highly accurate, not
Speaker 1: only in the mid you know, all three levels of
Speaker 1: the field. He can make all the throws. His deep
Speaker 1: ball is really really good. And he completed seventy percent
Speaker 1: of his passes two years ago. I know that went
Speaker 1: down a little bit this year, but he did have
Speaker 1: the one game where it was basically a gale force
Speaker 1: wins at Northwestern that kind of brought that percentage down.
Speaker 1: So very very accurate passer. And I'll also say, if
Speaker 1: you're looking for a guy to be the face of
Speaker 1: a franchise, CJ. Stroud in all my years of covering
Speaker 1: Ohio State and being a fan and all that is
Speaker 1: probably the most humble and down to a person that
Speaker 1: we have ever seen in the quarterback position, and that's
Speaker 1: kind of you know, Justin Fields was good in that
Speaker 1: area too, But CJ. Strouds always deplex praise to his teammates.
Speaker 1: He's very, very, very grounded in his faith and is
Speaker 1: just a really good human being. So if you don't
Speaker 1: want to worry about off the field issues or a
Speaker 1: guy being a cancer in locker room, CJ. Strauds, You're
Speaker 1: gonna have no problem with that at all. Well, he
Speaker 1: has been certainly a lot of fun to watch, but
Speaker 1: a lot of people talk about the NFL caliber weapons
Speaker 1: that he has to throw to as well, which, oddly enough,
Speaker 1: sometimes is a negative that you know, he he's got
Speaker 1: all these weapons that he can throw to, But how
Speaker 1: much of the success of the wide receivers really lands
Speaker 1: on Strouds shoulders just in being able to put them
Speaker 1: in a position to make those sort of plays. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's one thing I think CJ does really well.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean that is a talking point, right.
Speaker 1: Bryce Young also had good weapons around him now Ohio
Speaker 1: States wide receiver core over the last few years have
Speaker 1: been ridiculous. I mean they've been really good. Yeah, two
Speaker 1: first rounders go last year and you're probably another one
Speaker 1: this year. But yeah, I mean that goes into it.
Speaker 1: But CJ does a really good job with his accuracy.
Speaker 1: He trusts his receivers, and if you go back and
Speaker 1: watch game film, he always puts it, you know, in
Speaker 1: a spot where his guy can go make a play.
Speaker 1: So sometimes to do a back shoulder, sometimes he puts it,
Speaker 1: you know, he leads them into areas that open windows,
Speaker 1: and so I think he does a really good job
Speaker 1: with it. Clearly as receivers that he's had his help
Speaker 1: a little bit, but you can see his ability to
Speaker 1: read defenses and put the ball where his playmakers can
Speaker 1: go get it. So I think, you know, if you're
Speaker 1: looking for a guy at the NFL level, those windows
Speaker 1: are probably gona a little bit tighter, But he has
Speaker 1: a really good job of plugging the ball where his
Speaker 1: guy can make a play. Some critics say that Strout
Speaker 1: is maybe not as effective when facing pressure since he's
Speaker 1: a pure pocket passer. Where does he fit into a
Speaker 1: league that is really trending towards more mobile quarterbacks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's I think it's a bit of a concern and
Speaker 1: we have seen, you know times I have seen him
Speaker 1: stand in the pocket and make throws plenty occasions. But
Speaker 1: you know, with any quarterback, I think your rate of
Speaker 1: completion is going to go down a little bit. It's
Speaker 1: a risk reward thing, right. That's probably an area though
Speaker 1: that he probably could grow a little bit. You know.
Speaker 1: The other thing that is talking about that a little
Speaker 1: bit with pressure come in. I think one of the
Speaker 1: things that he's not done enough of and Ohio State
Speaker 1: fans will nod their head if they hear this is
Speaker 1: when the pressure comes, he's pretty hesitant to take off
Speaker 1: and take what the defense gives him with his legs.
Speaker 1: So I think that's probably his biggest area in growth.
Speaker 1: We saw him do that against Georgia and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, you know, Ohio State's moving the ball a
Speaker 1: lot more because he did take off with us and
Speaker 1: use his legs a little bit more, and you kind
Speaker 1: of need that in today's game. So his ability to
Speaker 1: understand where pressure comes from is pretty good. But yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of growth there, I think, with
Speaker 1: ability to get the ball out a little bit quicker
Speaker 1: where it needs to go and then to be able
Speaker 1: to give what the defense given to him when it
Speaker 1: breaks down and get out of pocket and start making
Speaker 1: some plays with his legs. All right, you talked about
Speaker 1: his personality a little bit, but are there any particular
Speaker 1: moments or stories about CJ. Strout that you could share
Speaker 1: that have really stood out to you over just your
Speaker 1: time covering him. I will point to it's just funny
Speaker 1: how he comes to the defense of his players and
Speaker 1: his coaches, because he's just that type of guy. Ohiosa
Speaker 1: lost to Michigan for two years in a row, and
Speaker 1: so the press conference afterwards was not a very pleasant
Speaker 1: one for him or his head coach. They were where
Speaker 1: they're together, and of course I got peppered by the
Speaker 1: media because Ohio State it's not used to losing to Michigan.
Speaker 1: It's been two years in a row. And they're asking CJ.
Speaker 1: Sitting off to the side, you're not even being He's
Speaker 1: not even being asked the question. It's Ryan Day that's
Speaker 1: being asked the question. And they ask him about some
Speaker 1: of the play calls, and all sudden you hear you
Speaker 1: hear CJ. Chiming said, Oh, it was a great play call,
Speaker 1: a really good play call I stand by it all
Speaker 1: the time. It was like he he just has that
Speaker 1: mentality where he he enjoys competition, he enjoys being around
Speaker 1: the guys that he plays with, and he's going to
Speaker 1: defend in a good way. But he just has the
Speaker 1: back of all of his players and his coaches. It's refreshing.
Speaker 1: There's Phil Harrison with dep City in our series covering
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and the beat writers that covered them in college.
Speaker 1: Much more on that on Houston Texans dot com and
Speaker 1: the Texans App tomorrow. Another show draft Wednesday. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about it John McClain on Thursday. And we've got some
Speaker 1: great shows coming up from the Combine next week as well.
Speaker 1: Have a great night everyone, Go Texans.