WEBVTT - Paths of a Playoff QB | Texans All Access 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.800 Hello Texans, and welcome to the program that brings you 0:00:02.920 --> 0:00:06.080 right inside at RG Stadium as we talk Texans, Mark 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:09.440 Vandermaer and John Harris with you building transforming into a 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:13.360 rodeo facility and a football facility at doubles it triples 0:00:13.400 --> 0:00:17.560 sometimes and the cook off is this weekend Combine next 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:20.280 week as far as the Texans go. And one programming 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:22.840 note off the bat, Johnny, as we were scheduled at 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:25.640 Demiko Ryan's tomorrow, but we're gonna push that back into 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:29.720 the Combine week because I guess we have not announced 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:33.080 coaches yet, the team is not and we'll wait till 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:35.400 all that as dawn, and just get Demko settled and 0:00:35.440 --> 0:00:37.440 go to the Combine and catch up with him there 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:40.760 and general manager Nick Kasserio at the Combine as we 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:44.600 will do shows from Tuesday through Friday from Indianapolis like 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:47.440 we do every year. Anyway, how's it going, my friend? 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:49.800 You're doing well? Yeah? I want to I want to 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:52.360 meet Demiko, so I don't want to get all the 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:55.200 way to the Combine, but he missed each other home 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:57.279 in the hallways, and so are you, and we'll make 0:00:57.280 --> 0:00:59.360 that happen. Yeah, And I'm sure we'll meet up at 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:02.360 some point. But that's okay, Yeah, we uh, I'm sure 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:05.000 we can. I'm sure we can find something to talk about. 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:06.720 We've been doing it for nine years. I think we'll 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:09.760 figure it out. Ten years this ten years? How many years? 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:12.200 This is our tenth year together? Yeah, ten year? Okay, Yeah, 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:15.280 we'll figure it out. You'll started in twenty fourteen around 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:17.039 this time of year, I believe, So here we go. 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:18.880 That was after the combine. You got back from the 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:23.039 combine and I started pestering you, and you were like, 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:26.120 all right, let's go. Don't I think I pestered you. 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:29.480 Let's have a debate here, who pestered you? Actually, let's 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:32.920 talk about this because I tweeted this out. Let's talk 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:36.480 about where quarterbacks come from? All right, Oh, where do 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:41.080 quarterbacks come from? Daddy? And you have to ask the question, Well, son, 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:44.319 I thought you'd never bring that up. But it's time 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:46.520 for us to have a little talk here about where 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:50.240 quarterbacks come from, because honestly, they can come from anywhere. 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:53.040 Now let's go here. Let's go here, because when I 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:56.560 look at the playoffs, all right, as we know them, 0:01:56.920 --> 0:01:59.360 as we knew them and know them, let's look at 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:02.920 the NF all right, the NFC teams that made the 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:07.080 postseason n s. Okay, all right, let's start there. So 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:11.880 you tell me Eagles second round, second round, okay, nine ers. 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:14.959 Their quarterbacks are all over the place, second round or 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:17.600 seventh round, maybe first round as well, but very little 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:19.640 of that or trading multiple first round picks for a 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:22.120 third round. It's only played a couple of games. Yeah, 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:26.040 number three overall? Oh a third rounder? No for number 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:28.640 three overall? Number three overall? Got you? Yeah, so, but 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:30.560 I'm gonna put the forty nine ers squarely in the 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:34.040 category of non first round quarterback. Okay, that brought them 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:36.600 here and got them there a couple of years in 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:42.560 a row. Vikings former fourth rounder, and the free agent thing, Okay, 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:45.560 Kirk Cousins Tampa Bay. Kind of unfair because it's the 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:47.320 greatest of all time. But he happened to be drafted 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:49.320 in the sixth round, and that excuse everything when you 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:51.200 try to argue that you can get a quarterback out 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:53.760 of the first round. But here he is. So the 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:56.840 other night, I was Saturday and night. I think I 0:02:56.880 --> 0:02:58.079 spent a lot of time in the kitchen. I was 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:00.760 just trying different recipes and different things, cooking. I've got 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:02.519 a both small TV in there, and so I turned 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:05.440 it on YouTube and there was something that I watched 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:08.440 and that I didn't have time to change it to 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:10.960 a different show. And so the next you know, YouTube 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:13.480 finishes one and it says coming up in five four, 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:16.560 three two, and all of a sudden, it starts with 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:20.120 Steve Sable talking with Tom Brady and he says, do 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:22.480 you know the six quarterbacks who were drafted ahead of you? 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:25.120 And it's a documentary it's been out for a long 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:29.519 time called the Brady Six. Oh yeah, And it's fascinating 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:33.720 because there are so many moments in there where you go, 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:36.080 oh man, and then you hear these quarterbacks that are 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:40.920 taking ahead of Tommy, like Giovanni or Mazzi. Hey here 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:43.680 had a howitzer, Johnny. I saw him at Hofstra. I 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:46.160 did a game there actually with Giovanni Carmazzi. But I 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:51.040 get your drift. So here's one thing that I everybody, well, 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:53.040 not hear anybody, but I hear a lot of people 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:56.240 say this, Well, if such and such coach is gonna 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:59.440 draft that player, then I trust that that player is good. 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:03.640 I give to you Giovanni Carmazzi drafted by arguably the 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:10.080 greatest quarterbacks coach guru ever, Bill Walsh. Wow, what Yes? 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:12.640 When he was advising the forty nine ers. Bill Walsh 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:14.760 was running the forty nine ers in two thousand when 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:17.360 they had that draft, and Bill Walsh fell in love 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:20.680 with Giovanni Carmazzi and that was the guy they wanted. 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:23.480 You know that whole Well, you know, if such a 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:26.599 such coach comes to Houston, I'm gonna trust that quarterback 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:30.720 is good because that guy knows. Um. That's not always 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:34.400 a guy is good if guy's good, not because that 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:37.040 coach sees that a guy is good if he's good. 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:40.240 Givanny Carmazzi was not, and he didn't want to play football. 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:43.400 That's also the traits versus do you have the work 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:46.560 ethic to improve? And not only the work ethic? Are 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:49.320 you going to improve if you put the work in? All? Right? 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:52.640 So I mentioned the Buccaneers continue with the NFC playoff 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:56.640 team quarterbacks where they came from the Cowboys. You're a guy, okay, 0:04:56.720 --> 0:04:59.240 dak fourth rounder wanted to be a Texan first of all, 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:03.080 but ended up with that other team, that other team, Giants. Okay, 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:06.720 first round quarterback, damn quarterback. Yeah, and the Seattle Seahawks 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:11.520 Johnny Gino Smith second rounder. I was high on Gino. 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:14.240 I thought, Gino, this is the Gino I thought we 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:17.560 would see a lot earlier. But as it happens, in 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:21.440 a lot of places, you don't have success, you kind 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:25.360 of bounce around, you don't get another opportunity, and then Seattle, 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:29.320 this kind of freaky opportunity ops up opens up where well, 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:33.000 they're gonna trade Russell Wilson, so who's left while they're 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:35.480 gonna bring over Drew Lock and well, you know Geno's there, 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:37.360 So I don't know, they're gonna let those two fight 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:39.200 it out. Really, they're not gonna go sign a quarterback. 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:40.880 They're not gonna go trade for a quarterback. They're not 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:43.520 gonna draft a quarterback. No, they're gonna go with one 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:45.240 of those two guys. And it looks like it's Gino. 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:49.640 He gets an opportunity, he fits in the offense, offense 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:53.400 fits him, He has a great year. I mean, sometimes 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:56.120 it's rocket signs, sometimes it really isn't. Sometimes it's just 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:59.320 dump pure luck. But I think the Seahawks kind of 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:01.400 hit on all of it with Gino. I think he's 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:04.120 a He's a really interesting test case and how you 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:07.520 go about acquiring a quarterback, because you remember the offseason 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:12.120 the Broncos when that trade was made and they give 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:15.160 out grades for the draft or they the you know, 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:19.440 the national media, they loved what the Broncos did. Oh, 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:21.840 they went out got Russell Wilson. The Broncos are gonna 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:23.479 be all out a bag of chips, And I'm like, 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:26.240 I don't know. Man kind of goes along with thought 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:28.720 that the team that saw Russell Wilson every single day 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:32.440 that needs a quarterback thoughts so little of him to 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:35.039 trade him to a different team. So from that standpoint, 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:37.760 Gino Smith's a really interesting test case I think, and 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:41.800 how you go about acquiring a quarterback, because that I 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:45.360 think is I think Gino Smith could only happen in 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:49.560 a certain few spots because I don't think it can 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:52.160 happen where it coaches jobs on the line. I don't 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:54.159 think it could happen where you'd have a young coach. 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:56.599 I think it had to be like an established guy 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:58.880 like Pete Carroll. Yeah, Like I don't know that would 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:00.640 happen in a lot of different places. Like I think 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:03.440 a Gino Smith could happen in Tennessee with Mike Rabel 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:07.080 because he's got enough enough stroke that, yeah, you're always 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:08.840 gonna feel pressure's head coach, but I don't think his 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:12.160 job's on the line because of what he's proven he 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:14.400 can do as a head coach. That's the kind of place. 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:16.200 There are only certain types of places that I think 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:18.960 were that kind of situation could have evolved the way 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:22.320 it did for Gino. Well. In the NFC, six of 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:25.000 the seven teams that made the playoffs have non first 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:28.240 round quarterbacks, correct, non first round draft roice quarterbacks in 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:31.559 many cases third or lower and there it is. So 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:34.720 in the AFC it was all first round guys, all 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:39.280 first round two number one overalls. You have also Herbert Yea, 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:41.840 Lamar Jackson late in the first round. You have Patrick 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:45.160 Mahomes number ten overall. So those are all first round guys. 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:47.960 So a mixed bag, if you will. Out of the 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:53.440 fourteen playoff teams, six of them non first round quarterbacks, 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:55.320 the other a drafted in the first round. We bring 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:58.000 this up because as all six in the NFC, all 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:00.400 six were in the NFC. We bring this up because, 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:03.120 as Damiko Ryan said, the Texans everly one quarterback on 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:05.000 the roster. We knew who that is, and they're looking 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:06.800 for quarterbacks. So we'll see how they get them. And 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:08.680 I'm not saying they should get them outside of the 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:10.560 first round and they shouldn't go for a quarterback in 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:12.800 the first round. I'm not saying that at all. I'm 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:15.480 just saying there are many different ways to get this 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:19.640 done quickly to the twenty twenty one playoffs. All right, 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:23.520 San Francisco, Dallas, all right, non first round, non first round, 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:25.720 Arizona and the Rams now the Rams. That's a free 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:28.200 agent acquisition. But he was once upon a time number 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:30.880 one overall. I always think that's different because Kirk Cousins 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:35.000 was traded for the value that you would trade or 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:37.600 signed to a contract that you would give a former 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:39.839 number one overall pick. In fact, once about a time 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:42.200 they traded for Sam Bradford, a number one overall pick 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:46.360 Philadelphia and Tampa Bay. There we go again. So last year, 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:49.360 out of the NFC teams, and there's one number one 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:51.079 overall pick that was traded to a team, and there 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:53.600 was another number one overall pick in Arizona that made 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:58.160 it AFC, Vegas and Cincinnati. Okay, No, and yes, as 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:01.319 far as non first round, first round, New England and Buffalo, 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:04.080 all right, first round, first round, Pittsburgh and Kansas City 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:07.320 first round, first round because last year was Ben Roethlisberger. Yes, 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:09.520 so there you have, all right, all right, but so it's, 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:13.040 you know, very often a mixed bag, Johnny. As far 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:17.280 as where the quarterbacks come from. Now, look, I don't 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:20.800 have to go through every draft. I did though personally 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:23.640 since two thousand and eight, to go through you know 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:27.160 what quarterbacks made it, what quarterbacks didn't. You know who 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:30.600 the top quarterbacks were taken, how they did. I'll just 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:32.559 give you you want to go through a little broad 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:35.600 stroke course of stuff. Okay, And oh wait, Matt Ryan 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:40.560 top quarterback, taking number three overall, great career. Flacco was 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:43.559 taken by the Ravens eighteenth with a pick they acquired 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:46.160 from the Texans and the Dwayne Brown deal. Dwayne Brown 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:49.360 taken later that round. But Flacco. Nice career, still in 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:52.400 the league, really nice career, no doubt about it. Once 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.000 upon a time Super Bowl winner. Matt Ryan is not. 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:57.960 And then you go down the list and mixed bag. 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:02.320 Chad Henney just retired rear backup started some games. We 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:06.000 all know that Josh Johnson. John Johnson was taken in 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:09.440 that DRAFTS eight, two thousand and eight. All right, here's 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:12.880 your tribute question. Who is this head coaching college? That 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:15.439 was Jim Harbaugh. He went to the University of San Diego, 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:19.120 not San Diego State, San Diego, the Division two school, 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:25.240 the Torio ars Terria doors pere Rose. You don't have 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:27.440 said anything and people would have believed you. They don't 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:29.880 know the nickname of San Diego. I mean, I know, 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:33.360 I just can't pronounce it, which is probably something I 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:36.000 should do because I work in the announcing business. But 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:38.280 I'm gonna work on this during the break. Actually, yeah, 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:40.840 all right, So the OH nine draft, Matthew Stafford goes 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:43.760 number one overall. Sanchez, the next quarterback taken in the 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:46.839 first round out of USC, of course, goes to the 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:49.680 Jets back to back pretty good years. But the team 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:52.439 was really good and they went to back to back 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:57.400 AFC championship games. Josh Freeman, Tampa Bay the only other 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:00.920 third rounder in that draft. The rest of the way, 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:05.719 who do we have that's any good? I'm looking on nine? Yeah, 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:07.600 how about this? You want to want to know a 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:11.079 fun fact from the OH nine draft? Quarterback wise, Julian 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:14.280 Edelman was picked as a quarterback because that's how he 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:17.400 came out as a quarterback from Kent State. That pick 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:21.559 in the seventh round was acquired from the Patriots or 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:27.200 by the Patriots from Miami. So you get Welker from 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:30.920 Miami in a trade. You get Edelman with a pick 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:33.920 that you got from Miami. Hey, Dolphins, don't do any 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:38.400 dealing with the Patriots. Yeah, you do it. You're crazy 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:44.120 back to back career Hall of Fame caliber receivers. Welker's 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:45.840 not gonna make the Hall of Fame, but Hall of 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:48.559 Fame caliber. Yeah, No, he deserves his own kind of 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:52.360 Hall of fame, the Welker Hall of Fame. The Welker, 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:55.400 the Danny m and Doola Welker Julian Edelman type hall 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:57.480 of Fame. I don't know, does Edelman make the Hall 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:01.840 of Fame? No? No, ed'nna have some tremendous big games. 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:03.920 I don't think there's any question now. Obviously, just a 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:06.720 Super Bowl MVP. He may arguably the greatest catching the 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:10.480 Super Bowl without using his helmet, which is the one 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:12.839 that he made here like one hundred yards away from 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:16.920 where we are right now, and he's played, he played 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:20.319 tremendous and certainly I just can't I can't see it. 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:26.520 I can't see it. I mean, if the big game performances, yeah, 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:30.800 those matter, those really matter. But I don't think over 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:34.719 the course of time, even as tough as he was. 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:36.760 And it's hard in this. It's hard for me to 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:39.440 say this because I loved Edelman. I'll never forget we 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:42.480 went up there in sixteen. Who could the Thursday night 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:47.480 game at sixteen they are just raking us over the 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:50.640 coals and making us like it. Well, the defense in 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:53.160 that games sort of once they got rocked in a 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:55.079 second quarter, they kind of settled down from that point. 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:57.640 But we're down. I think, I don't It's twenty two 0:12:57.679 --> 0:13:00.960 enough that I think edn't want to thirty yards down 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:04.320 field pancaking one of our defensive backs. I can't remember 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:08.280 who it was pancaking, I mean literally blocking him and 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:11.400 knocking him on the turf as I think it was 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:12.959 La Garrett Blunt was it? Look? I think it was 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:15.520 the Garrett ran down the sideline for a long touchdown, 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:19.680 like a fifty yard touchdown, and Edelman is just boom, 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:21.880 just taking somebody to the turf. And then he's getting 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:25.199 over him and he's just flexing him like they're twenty nothing. 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:27.080 He could have just mailed in a stock block and 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:30.640 just that's it. He pancaked r dB and I was like, 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:33.840 that's that's kind of badass right there. I gotta admit, 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:37.320 and he that's just that's the way he played. And 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:41.200 whenever we played him, we couldn't stop him. We couldn't 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:44.320 stop him until the last game that we faced him 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:46.160 was twenty nineteen, and we did him. That was the 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:48.520 only game that we were able to stop him. Bradley 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:52.120 Roby nice little pick there early on, relatively much that 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:54.680 was good. I don't want to go through all the drafts, 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:56.640 but you look at how many guys, and this scares 0:13:56.679 --> 0:14:00.520 you about quarterbacks, how many players don't make it versus 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:03.400 how many do make it. And you look at Sam 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:06.240 Bradford in twenty ten, who had all the talent in 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:09.400 the world, had some moments, especially against this team, but 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:12.520 ultimately you can't say he made it. And he was 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:16.800 the last of the fully guaranteed pre new collective margaining agreement. 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:20.320 In twenty eleven, he had a huge deal and got 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:22.760 traded to the Vikings. Eventually beat the Texans in twenty 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:26.760 sixteen as a Viking ouch. But twenty eleven, then you 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:29.520 look at Cam Newton, well worth it, but Jake Locker 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:33.640 blamed Gabbert Christian Ponder ouch didn't have the careers they wanted. 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:36.560 Ponder actually a playoff quarterback once upon a time, Andy Dalton, 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:39.160 who was tweeting this week at about Andy Dalton doing 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:41.400 a tape breakdown about how Andy Dalton, if he's an 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:44.040 average quarterback, how good you have to be as a 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:46.120 good point, gosh, I want to get the guy's name right. 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:48.920 How good you have to beat to just be average, 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:52.280 and how many throws the quote average quarterback can make 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:53.880 in this league. And we take it for granted because 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:56.840 Dalton's had a lot of playoff appearances but obviously has 0:14:56.880 --> 0:15:01.040 not been everything in the world, all world kind of guy. No, 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:05.000 I mean player, He's a great guy, whatever, he just 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:07.800 hasn't panned out the way you'd hope based on the 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:12.200 playoff appearances in Cincinnati. Kaepernick went in that twenty eleven 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:14.880 draft and went to a Super Bowl with the San 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:17.320 Francisco forty nine ers. Who else, Oh yeah, our buddy 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:20.240 t J. Yates and Ryan Mallen and all these kinds 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:23.680 of guys Tyrod Taylor went in that draft. Again, they 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:26.840 can come from anywhere. Johnny, I'm gonna fast forward here 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:28.840 because we'll run out a segment before we get to 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:31.680 all of this. But let's go right to the class 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:35.960 of twenty twenty two. I'm sorry, twenty twenty one, that 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:39.200 draft class with your guy Trevor Lawrence, you and andre 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:43.080 generational talent. He's starting to play like it. I still 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:45.440 say he's good for that key pick when you need it, 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:47.560 But we can get to that later. Texans three and 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:50.200 one all time against Trevor Lawrence. Did I mention that, Yes, 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:54.840 without our best stuff? Hey, there's that, there is that wow. 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:57.320 But look at the top of this draft. You have 0:15:57.360 --> 0:16:01.040 Trevor Lawrence. Then you have Zach Wilson. Wilson's really good, 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:03.680 not so much. Don't know what's going to happen with 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:07.000 him here on out. Trey Lance really good number three 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:10.040 pick in the draft. Is he I don't know, gets 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:12.360 hurt a lot. Will he ever materialize to be the 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:15.280 player they want him to be? Justin fields? He's awesome 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:18.760 out of Ohio State. Well, we know he's a great runner. 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:21.640 He does make some throws. He took a big leap 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:23.760 forward this year. Does he take another leap forward? Hey, 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:26.080 there's a lot of media conjecture about maybe you should 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:28.160 trade Justin Fields and take a quarterback with the number 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:31.040 one overall pick, because hey, Bryce Young is sitting right there. 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:34.760 And then our buddy Mac Jones followed, well, these are 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:36.720 the first round guys. I'll leave Trask out of it 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:39.960 for now. Mac Jones, the only other first round quarterback taken, 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:43.560 has actually done some things, but not enough in New England. However, 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:46.760 he's the guy moving forward, at least in the relatively 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:50.960 short term period here, so very hit or miss, right, Yeah, 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:54.120 you're gonna go to twenty twenty, all right, go to 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:58.960 twenty twenty. Number one overall Joe Burrow. Yep, that worked 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:01.800 out pretty well. Number five over working out well so far. 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:08.560 Number five overall Justin Herbert. Nope, oh sorry, number six 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:12.480 overall Herbert Herbert. Yeah. Now, jury is still out a 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:14.480 little bit on too, just because you know the health 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:17.240 factor and concussions. But when health, when healthy, he's looked 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:20.280 really with Mike McDaniel, Yeah, he's looked extremely I mean 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:23.879 we always say, oh, they're not all gonna pan out. 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:27.800 Are they Well, you look at twenty twenty, twenty twenty. Look, 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:30.160 they look really good, because they're really good. Jordan Love 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:31.840 was taken. We don't know who what he is yet. 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:35.000 We really don't know. I think we're gonna find out. 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:40.600 Maybe we'll find out very soon this year. Then Jalen hurts, Wow, wow, 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:47.040 second round, fifty third overall, this class panning out very nicely. Yes, 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:49.800 with the exception of the health issues of two U 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:54.760 and the lack of opportunity for Love, that's not bad. 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:56.960 Let's see where it goes from here. Yeah, this is 0:17:57.000 --> 0:18:00.040 what you're hoping. This year's class is accept whoever for 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:02.720 the Colts pick. Yeah, that's what we're hoping. This year's 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:05.080 class is right in some sense, we hope that the 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:07.400 Colts draft Jordan Love, who doesn't get on the field 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:09.360 for three years, and then we don't know. I do 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:11.760 think that when Jordan Loves given an opportunity, I've thought 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:14.520 this for a while, that Jordan Love was gonna make 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:17.840 make a ton out of the opportunity. I think that 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:20.040 Jordan Love will look back, sort of like Aaron Rodgers 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:21.920 and say, you know what, it wasn't great to sit 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:24.679 there your competitor. You don't want to sit there and 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:27.040 you get a couple of you get a couple of 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:29.639 starts in week eighteen or whatever the case might be, 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:31.520 or when Aaron's been hurt, do you haven't had a 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:34.199 chance to do a whole heck of a lot. I 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:35.919 think what Jordan Love gets on the field, I think 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:37.920 people are gonna be like, yo, yeah, all right, I 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:40.760 see what he's got. My point with twenty twenty is, 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:44.600 if you look at twenty twenty one, there have been 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:47.480 some there've been some hits, there's been some missus. Twy 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:50.120 twenty two, there's only one quarterback and Canny pick it. Yeah, 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:53.600 there were times it looked pretty good. I think we're 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:58.320 getting to a point now where where teams I don't know. 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:02.719 I think teams do the quarterback thing differently than they 0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:06.199 did in the in the past. And I kind of 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:08.879 noticed that a little bit with with us here in 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:11.840 seventeen when we had when we had Deshaun Watson. You know, 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:15.240 Bill had an offense that obviously they've been running forever. 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:18.760 But I do not forget him saying to me after 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:21.720 the Cincinnati game as a rookie in the fourth quarter, 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:23.879 I'm like yeah, coach, you know, your fourth quarter offense 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:27.080 really got going. Yeah, you know, we you know, threw 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:29.560 in some plays that you know from Clemson that made 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:32.280 Deshaun more comfortable. I think coaches are understanding that if 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:33.760 we want to get the most out of this guy, 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:36.200 we've got to be able to and I think Zach 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:38.399 Wilson is a test case for this. I think he 0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:41.000 went to he went to New York and they force 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:44.719 fed him a lot, and in doing and giving him 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:47.640 a lot, you're breaking Mike's over there. Wow. Very nice. 0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:53.000 I am just not in nowhere, But I think that coaches, 0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:57.919 and I'm not saying that they're cow talent to every 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:01.080 young talent and doing exactly what what every young talent 0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:04.080 wants or needs, but I think they're doing a better 0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:07.960 job of understanding, if we're gonna draft this guy, we 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:11.639 gotta have these certain things in place to make him 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:15.119 a better quarterback going forward. And it doesn't always happen, 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:19.280 but I feel like because there is such an emphasis 0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:22.160 on that position, and because there is such pressure when 0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:26.320 you draft a player at that position, that you better 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:29.800 have it right. Whether it's a quarterback, coach, offensive coordinator, 0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:34.280 overall scheme, the environment that they're walking into, the offensive 0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:37.159 skill players they're throwing the ball to, and you just 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:40.960 think about Mahomes. Look, Alex Smith was doing fine with 0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:44.760