1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program that brings you 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: right inside at RG Stadium as we talk Texans, Mark 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: Vandermaer and John Harris with you building transforming into a 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: rodeo facility and a football facility at doubles it triples 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: sometimes and the cook off is this weekend Combine next 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: week as far as the Texans go. And one programming 7 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: note off the bat, Johnny, as we were scheduled at 8 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: Demiko Ryan's tomorrow, but we're gonna push that back into 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: the Combine week because I guess we have not announced 10 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: coaches yet, the team is not and we'll wait till 11 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: all that as dawn, and just get Demko settled and 12 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: go to the Combine and catch up with him there 13 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: and general manager Nick Kasserio at the Combine as we 14 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: will do shows from Tuesday through Friday from Indianapolis like 15 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: we do every year. Anyway, how's it going, my friend? 16 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: You're doing well? Yeah? I want to I want to 17 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: meet Demiko, so I don't want to get all the 18 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: way to the Combine, but he missed each other home 19 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 1: in the hallways, and so are you, and we'll make 20 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: that happen. Yeah, And I'm sure we'll meet up at 21 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: some point. But that's okay, Yeah, we uh, I'm sure 22 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: we can. I'm sure we can find something to talk about. 23 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: We've been doing it for nine years. I think we'll 24 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: figure it out. Ten years this ten years? How many years? 25 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: This is our tenth year together? Yeah, ten year? Okay, Yeah, 26 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: we'll figure it out. You'll started in twenty fourteen around 27 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: this time of year, I believe, So here we go. 28 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: That was after the combine. You got back from the 29 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: combine and I started pestering you, and you were like, 30 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: all right, let's go. Don't I think I pestered you. 31 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: Let's have a debate here, who pestered you? Actually, let's 32 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: talk about this because I tweeted this out. Let's talk 33 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: about where quarterbacks come from? All right, Oh, where do 34 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: quarterbacks come from? Daddy? And you have to ask the question, Well, son, 35 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: I thought you'd never bring that up. But it's time 36 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: for us to have a little talk here about where 37 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: quarterbacks come from, because honestly, they can come from anywhere. 38 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: Now let's go here. Let's go here, because when I 39 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: look at the playoffs, all right, as we know them, 40 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: as we knew them and know them, let's look at 41 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: the NF all right, the NFC teams that made the 42 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: postseason n s. Okay, all right, let's start there. So 43 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: you tell me Eagles second round, second round, okay, nine ers. 44 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 1: Their quarterbacks are all over the place, second round or 45 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: seventh round, maybe first round as well, but very little 46 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: of that or trading multiple first round picks for a 47 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: third round. It's only played a couple of games. Yeah, 48 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: number three overall? Oh a third rounder? No for number 49 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: three overall? Number three overall? Got you? Yeah, so, but 50 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put the forty nine ers squarely in the 51 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: category of non first round quarterback. Okay, that brought them 52 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: here and got them there a couple of years in 53 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: a row. Vikings former fourth rounder, and the free agent thing, Okay, 54 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins Tampa Bay. Kind of unfair because it's the 55 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: greatest of all time. But he happened to be drafted 56 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: in the sixth round, and that excuse everything when you 57 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: try to argue that you can get a quarterback out 58 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: of the first round. But here he is. So the 59 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: other night, I was Saturday and night. I think I 60 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time in the kitchen. I was 61 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: just trying different recipes and different things, cooking. I've got 62 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 1: a both small TV in there, and so I turned 63 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: it on YouTube and there was something that I watched 64 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: and that I didn't have time to change it to 65 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: a different show. And so the next you know, YouTube 66 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: finishes one and it says coming up in five four, 67 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: three two, and all of a sudden, it starts with 68 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: Steve Sable talking with Tom Brady and he says, do 69 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: you know the six quarterbacks who were drafted ahead of you? 70 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: And it's a documentary it's been out for a long 71 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 1: time called the Brady Six. Oh yeah, And it's fascinating 72 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: because there are so many moments in there where you go, 73 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: oh man, and then you hear these quarterbacks that are 74 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: taking ahead of Tommy, like Giovanni or Mazzi. Hey here 75 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: had a howitzer, Johnny. I saw him at Hofstra. I 76 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: did a game there actually with Giovanni Carmazzi. But I 77 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: get your drift. So here's one thing that I everybody, well, 78 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: not hear anybody, but I hear a lot of people 79 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: say this, Well, if such and such coach is gonna 80 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: draft that player, then I trust that that player is good. 81 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: I give to you Giovanni Carmazzi drafted by arguably the 82 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: greatest quarterbacks coach guru ever, Bill Walsh. Wow, what Yes? 83 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: When he was advising the forty nine ers. Bill Walsh 84 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: was running the forty nine ers in two thousand when 85 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: they had that draft, and Bill Walsh fell in love 86 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: with Giovanni Carmazzi and that was the guy they wanted. 87 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: You know that whole Well, you know, if such a 88 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: such coach comes to Houston, I'm gonna trust that quarterback 89 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: is good because that guy knows. Um. That's not always 90 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: a guy is good if guy's good, not because that 91 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: coach sees that a guy is good if he's good. 92 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: Givanny Carmazzi was not, and he didn't want to play football. 93 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: That's also the traits versus do you have the work 94 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: ethic to improve? And not only the work ethic? Are 95 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: you going to improve if you put the work in? All? Right? 96 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: So I mentioned the Buccaneers continue with the NFC playoff 97 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: team quarterbacks where they came from the Cowboys. You're a guy, okay, 98 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: dak fourth rounder wanted to be a Texan first of all, 99 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: but ended up with that other team, that other team, Giants. Okay, 100 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: first round quarterback, damn quarterback. Yeah, and the Seattle Seahawks 101 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: Johnny Gino Smith second rounder. I was high on Gino. 102 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: I thought, Gino, this is the Gino I thought we 103 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: would see a lot earlier. But as it happens, in 104 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: a lot of places, you don't have success, you kind 105 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: of bounce around, you don't get another opportunity, and then Seattle, 106 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: this kind of freaky opportunity ops up opens up where well, 107 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: they're gonna trade Russell Wilson, so who's left while they're 108 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: gonna bring over Drew Lock and well, you know Geno's there, 109 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: So I don't know, they're gonna let those two fight 110 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: it out. Really, they're not gonna go sign a quarterback. 111 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: They're not gonna go trade for a quarterback. They're not 112 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: gonna draft a quarterback. No, they're gonna go with one 113 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: of those two guys. And it looks like it's Gino. 114 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: He gets an opportunity, he fits in the offense, offense 115 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: fits him, He has a great year. I mean, sometimes 116 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: it's rocket signs, sometimes it really isn't. Sometimes it's just 117 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: dump pure luck. But I think the Seahawks kind of 118 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: hit on all of it with Gino. I think he's 119 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: a He's a really interesting test case and how you 120 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: go about acquiring a quarterback, because you remember the offseason 121 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: the Broncos when that trade was made and they give 122 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: out grades for the draft or they the you know, 123 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: the national media, they loved what the Broncos did. Oh, 124 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: they went out got Russell Wilson. The Broncos are gonna 125 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: be all out a bag of chips, And I'm like, 126 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. Man kind of goes along with thought 127 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: that the team that saw Russell Wilson every single day 128 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: that needs a quarterback thoughts so little of him to 129 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: trade him to a different team. So from that standpoint, 130 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: Gino Smith's a really interesting test case I think, and 131 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: how you go about acquiring a quarterback, because that I 132 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: think is I think Gino Smith could only happen in 133 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: a certain few spots because I don't think it can 134 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: happen where it coaches jobs on the line. I don't 135 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: think it could happen where you'd have a young coach. 136 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: I think it had to be like an established guy 137 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: like Pete Carroll. Yeah, Like I don't know that would 138 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: happen in a lot of different places. Like I think 139 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: a Gino Smith could happen in Tennessee with Mike Rabel 140 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: because he's got enough enough stroke that, yeah, you're always 141 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: gonna feel pressure's head coach, but I don't think his 142 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: job's on the line because of what he's proven he 143 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: can do as a head coach. That's the kind of place. 144 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: There are only certain types of places that I think 145 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: were that kind of situation could have evolved the way 146 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: it did for Gino. Well. In the NFC, six of 147 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: the seven teams that made the playoffs have non first 148 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: round quarterbacks, correct, non first round draft roice quarterbacks in 149 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,559 Speaker 1: many cases third or lower and there it is. So 150 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: in the AFC it was all first round guys, all 151 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: first round two number one overalls. You have also Herbert Yea, 152 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson late in the first round. You have Patrick 153 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: Mahomes number ten overall. So those are all first round guys. 154 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: So a mixed bag, if you will. Out of the 155 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: fourteen playoff teams, six of them non first round quarterbacks, 156 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: the other a drafted in the first round. We bring 157 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: this up because as all six in the NFC, all 158 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: six were in the NFC. We bring this up because, 159 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: as Damiko Ryan said, the Texans everly one quarterback on 160 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: the roster. We knew who that is, and they're looking 161 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: for quarterbacks. So we'll see how they get them. And 162 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: I'm not saying they should get them outside of the 163 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: first round and they shouldn't go for a quarterback in 164 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: the first round. I'm not saying that at all. I'm 165 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: just saying there are many different ways to get this 166 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: done quickly to the twenty twenty one playoffs. All right, 167 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: San Francisco, Dallas, all right, non first round, non first round, 168 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: Arizona and the Rams now the Rams. That's a free 169 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: agent acquisition. But he was once upon a time number 170 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: one overall. I always think that's different because Kirk Cousins 171 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: was traded for the value that you would trade or 172 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: signed to a contract that you would give a former 173 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 1: number one overall pick. In fact, once about a time 174 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: they traded for Sam Bradford, a number one overall pick 175 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: Philadelphia and Tampa Bay. There we go again. So last year, 176 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: out of the NFC teams, and there's one number one 177 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: overall pick that was traded to a team, and there 178 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: was another number one overall pick in Arizona that made 179 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: it AFC, Vegas and Cincinnati. Okay, No, and yes, as 180 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 1: far as non first round, first round, New England and Buffalo, 181 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: all right, first round, first round, Pittsburgh and Kansas City 182 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: first round, first round because last year was Ben Roethlisberger. Yes, 183 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: so there you have, all right, all right, but so it's, 184 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: you know, very often a mixed bag, Johnny. As far 185 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: as where the quarterbacks come from. Now, look, I don't 186 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: have to go through every draft. I did though personally 187 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: since two thousand and eight, to go through you know 188 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: what quarterbacks made it, what quarterbacks didn't. You know who 189 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: the top quarterbacks were taken, how they did. I'll just 190 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: give you you want to go through a little broad 191 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: stroke course of stuff. Okay, And oh wait, Matt Ryan 192 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: top quarterback, taking number three overall, great career. Flacco was 193 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 1: taken by the Ravens eighteenth with a pick they acquired 194 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: from the Texans and the Dwayne Brown deal. Dwayne Brown 195 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: taken later that round. But Flacco. Nice career, still in 196 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: the league, really nice career, no doubt about it. Once 197 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: upon a time Super Bowl winner. Matt Ryan is not. 198 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: And then you go down the list and mixed bag. 199 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: Chad Henney just retired rear backup started some games. We 200 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: all know that Josh Johnson. John Johnson was taken in 201 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: that DRAFTS eight, two thousand and eight. All right, here's 202 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: your tribute question. Who is this head coaching college? That 203 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 1: was Jim Harbaugh. He went to the University of San Diego, 204 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: not San Diego State, San Diego, the Division two school, 205 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: the Torio ars Terria doors pere Rose. You don't have 206 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: said anything and people would have believed you. They don't 207 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: know the nickname of San Diego. I mean, I know, 208 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: I just can't pronounce it, which is probably something I 209 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: should do because I work in the announcing business. But 210 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna work on this during the break. Actually, yeah, 211 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: all right, So the OH nine draft, Matthew Stafford goes 212 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: number one overall. Sanchez, the next quarterback taken in the 213 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 1: first round out of USC, of course, goes to the 214 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: Jets back to back pretty good years. But the team 215 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 1: was really good and they went to back to back 216 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: AFC championship games. Josh Freeman, Tampa Bay the only other 217 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: third rounder in that draft. The rest of the way, 218 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 1: who do we have that's any good? I'm looking on nine? Yeah, 219 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: how about this? You want to want to know a 220 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 1: fun fact from the OH nine draft? Quarterback wise, Julian 221 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: Edelman was picked as a quarterback because that's how he 222 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: came out as a quarterback from Kent State. That pick 223 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 1: in the seventh round was acquired from the Patriots or 224 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: by the Patriots from Miami. So you get Welker from 225 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: Miami in a trade. You get Edelman with a pick 226 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: that you got from Miami. Hey, Dolphins, don't do any 227 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: dealing with the Patriots. Yeah, you do it. You're crazy 228 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: back to back career Hall of Fame caliber receivers. Welker's 229 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: not gonna make the Hall of Fame, but Hall of 230 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 1: Fame caliber. Yeah, No, he deserves his own kind of 231 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: Hall of fame, the Welker Hall of Fame. The Welker, 232 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: the Danny m and Doola Welker Julian Edelman type hall 233 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: of Fame. I don't know, does Edelman make the Hall 234 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: of Fame? No? No, ed'nna have some tremendous big games. 235 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question now. Obviously, just a 236 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVP. He may arguably the greatest catching the 237 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: Super Bowl without using his helmet, which is the one 238 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,839 Speaker 1: that he made here like one hundred yards away from 239 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: where we are right now, and he's played, he played 240 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: tremendous and certainly I just can't I can't see it. 241 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: I can't see it. I mean, if the big game performances, yeah, 242 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: those matter, those really matter. But I don't think over 243 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,719 Speaker 1: the course of time, even as tough as he was. 244 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: And it's hard in this. It's hard for me to 245 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: say this because I loved Edelman. I'll never forget we 246 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: went up there in sixteen. Who could the Thursday night 247 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: game at sixteen they are just raking us over the 248 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: coals and making us like it. Well, the defense in 249 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: that games sort of once they got rocked in a 250 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 1: second quarter, they kind of settled down from that point. 251 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: But we're down. I think, I don't It's twenty two 252 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: enough that I think edn't want to thirty yards down 253 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: field pancaking one of our defensive backs. I can't remember 254 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: who it was pancaking, I mean literally blocking him and 255 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: knocking him on the turf as I think it was 256 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 1: La Garrett Blunt was it? Look? I think it was 257 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: the Garrett ran down the sideline for a long touchdown, 258 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: like a fifty yard touchdown, and Edelman is just boom, 259 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: just taking somebody to the turf. And then he's getting 260 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 1: over him and he's just flexing him like they're twenty nothing. 261 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: He could have just mailed in a stock block and 262 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: just that's it. He pancaked r dB and I was like, 263 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: that's that's kind of badass right there. I gotta admit, 264 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: and he that's just that's the way he played. And 265 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: whenever we played him, we couldn't stop him. We couldn't 266 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: stop him until the last game that we faced him 267 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: was twenty nineteen, and we did him. That was the 268 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: only game that we were able to stop him. Bradley 269 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: Roby nice little pick there early on, relatively much that 270 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: was good. I don't want to go through all the drafts, 271 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: but you look at how many guys, and this scares 272 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: you about quarterbacks, how many players don't make it versus 273 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: how many do make it. And you look at Sam 274 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: Bradford in twenty ten, who had all the talent in 275 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: the world, had some moments, especially against this team, but 276 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: ultimately you can't say he made it. And he was 277 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: the last of the fully guaranteed pre new collective margaining agreement. 278 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: In twenty eleven, he had a huge deal and got 279 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: traded to the Vikings. Eventually beat the Texans in twenty 280 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: sixteen as a Viking ouch. But twenty eleven, then you 281 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: look at Cam Newton, well worth it, but Jake Locker 282 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: blamed Gabbert Christian Ponder ouch didn't have the careers they wanted. 283 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: Ponder actually a playoff quarterback once upon a time, Andy Dalton, 284 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: who was tweeting this week at about Andy Dalton doing 285 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: a tape breakdown about how Andy Dalton, if he's an 286 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: average quarterback, how good you have to be as a 287 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: good point, gosh, I want to get the guy's name right. 288 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: How good you have to beat to just be average, 289 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: and how many throws the quote average quarterback can make 290 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: in this league. And we take it for granted because 291 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: Dalton's had a lot of playoff appearances but obviously has 292 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: not been everything in the world, all world kind of guy. No, 293 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: I mean player, He's a great guy, whatever, he just 294 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: hasn't panned out the way you'd hope based on the 295 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: playoff appearances in Cincinnati. Kaepernick went in that twenty eleven 296 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: draft and went to a Super Bowl with the San 297 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers. Who else, Oh yeah, our buddy 298 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: t J. Yates and Ryan Mallen and all these kinds 299 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: of guys Tyrod Taylor went in that draft. Again, they 300 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: can come from anywhere. Johnny, I'm gonna fast forward here 301 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: because we'll run out a segment before we get to 302 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: all of this. But let's go right to the class 303 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty two. I'm sorry, twenty twenty one, that 304 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: draft class with your guy Trevor Lawrence, you and andre 305 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: generational talent. He's starting to play like it. I still 306 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: say he's good for that key pick when you need it, 307 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: But we can get to that later. Texans three and 308 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: one all time against Trevor Lawrence. Did I mention that, Yes, 309 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: without our best stuff? Hey, there's that, there is that wow. 310 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: But look at the top of this draft. You have 311 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. Then you have Zach Wilson. Wilson's really good, 312 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: not so much. Don't know what's going to happen with 313 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: him here on out. Trey Lance really good number three 314 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: pick in the draft. Is he I don't know, gets 315 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: hurt a lot. Will he ever materialize to be the 316 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: player they want him to be? Justin fields? He's awesome 317 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: out of Ohio State. Well, we know he's a great runner. 318 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: He does make some throws. He took a big leap 319 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: forward this year. Does he take another leap forward? Hey, 320 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: there's a lot of media conjecture about maybe you should 321 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: trade Justin Fields and take a quarterback with the number 322 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: one overall pick, because hey, Bryce Young is sitting right there. 323 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: And then our buddy Mac Jones followed, well, these are 324 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: the first round guys. I'll leave Trask out of it 325 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: for now. Mac Jones, the only other first round quarterback taken, 326 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: has actually done some things, but not enough in New England. However, 327 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: he's the guy moving forward, at least in the relatively 328 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: short term period here, so very hit or miss, right, Yeah, 329 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna go to twenty twenty, all right, go to 330 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Number one overall Joe Burrow. Yep, that worked 331 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: out pretty well. Number five over working out well so far. 332 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: Number five overall Justin Herbert. Nope, oh sorry, number six 333 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: overall Herbert Herbert. Yeah. Now, jury is still out a 334 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: little bit on too, just because you know the health 335 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: factor and concussions. But when health, when healthy, he's looked 336 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: really with Mike McDaniel, Yeah, he's looked extremely I mean 337 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: we always say, oh, they're not all gonna pan out. 338 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: Are they Well, you look at twenty twenty, twenty twenty. Look, 339 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: they look really good, because they're really good. Jordan Love 340 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: was taken. We don't know who what he is yet. 341 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: We really don't know. I think we're gonna find out. 342 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll find out very soon this year. Then Jalen hurts, Wow, wow, 343 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: second round, fifty third overall, this class panning out very nicely. Yes, 344 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: with the exception of the health issues of two U 345 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: and the lack of opportunity for Love, that's not bad. 346 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: Let's see where it goes from here. Yeah, this is 347 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: what you're hoping. This year's class is accept whoever for 348 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: the Colts pick. Yeah, that's what we're hoping. This year's 349 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: class is right in some sense, we hope that the 350 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: Colts draft Jordan Love, who doesn't get on the field 351 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 1: for three years, and then we don't know. I do 352 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: think that when Jordan Loves given an opportunity, I've thought 353 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: this for a while, that Jordan Love was gonna make 354 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: make a ton out of the opportunity. I think that 355 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: Jordan Love will look back, sort of like Aaron Rodgers 356 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: and say, you know what, it wasn't great to sit 357 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 1: there your competitor. You don't want to sit there and 358 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: you get a couple of you get a couple of 359 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: starts in week eighteen or whatever the case might be, 360 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: or when Aaron's been hurt, do you haven't had a 361 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 1: chance to do a whole heck of a lot. I 362 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: think what Jordan Love gets on the field, I think 363 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: people are gonna be like, yo, yeah, all right, I 364 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: see what he's got. My point with twenty twenty is, 365 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: if you look at twenty twenty one, there have been 366 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: some there've been some hits, there's been some missus. Twy 367 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 1: twenty two, there's only one quarterback and Canny pick it. Yeah, 368 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: there were times it looked pretty good. I think we're 369 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: getting to a point now where where teams I don't know. 370 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:02,719 Speaker 1: I think teams do the quarterback thing differently than they 371 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 1: did in the in the past. And I kind of 372 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: noticed that a little bit with with us here in 373 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: seventeen when we had when we had Deshaun Watson. You know, 374 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: Bill had an offense that obviously they've been running forever. 375 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: But I do not forget him saying to me after 376 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati game as a rookie in the fourth quarter, 377 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: I'm like yeah, coach, you know, your fourth quarter offense 378 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: really got going. Yeah, you know, we you know, threw 379 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: in some plays that you know from Clemson that made 380 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: Deshaun more comfortable. I think coaches are understanding that if 381 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: we want to get the most out of this guy, 382 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: we've got to be able to and I think Zach 383 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: Wilson is a test case for this. I think he 384 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: went to he went to New York and they force 385 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,719 Speaker 1: fed him a lot, and in doing and giving him 386 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 1: a lot, you're breaking Mike's over there. Wow. Very nice. 387 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: I am just not in nowhere, But I think that coaches, 388 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that they're cow talent to every 389 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: young talent and doing exactly what what every young talent 390 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: wants or needs, but I think they're doing a better 391 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: job of understanding, if we're gonna draft this guy, we 392 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: gotta have these certain things in place to make him 393 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: a better quarterback going forward. And it doesn't always happen, 394 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: but I feel like because there is such an emphasis 395 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: on that position, and because there is such pressure when 396 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: you draft a player at that position, that you better 397 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: have it right. Whether it's a quarterback, coach, offensive coordinator, 398 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: overall scheme, the environment that they're walking into, the offensive 399 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: skill players they're throwing the ball to, and you just 400 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: think about Mahomes. Look, Alex Smith was doing fine with 401 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: Kelsey and with Tyreek, and then everything was in place. 402 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: So then they plot Mahomes in. Yeah, he still had hiccups, 403 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: but everything was there around him. Andy Read a great 404 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: play caller. The enemy was there, Naggie was there. Doug 405 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: Peterson was not quite there yet, he was already gone. 406 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: The offensive pieces that you wanted an right there, they 407 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: popped them in. It's kind of a fail safe, you know. 408 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: So you look at other situations, and it's not always 409 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: that way because a lot of teams are drafting. Those 410 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: quarterbacks are drafting because they stunk. The Jets put those 411 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: pieces around Wilson, but there was so much on his 412 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 1: shoulders and he just could never, could never get out 413 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: of his own head. He's one situation, you know. But 414 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, what happened with Donald, What happened with Sam Donald? 415 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: When the Jets drafted him in twenty eighteen eighteen, we 416 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: saw him up there, We saw him like, man, he's 417 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: giving us a hard time, and then for some reason, 418 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: just away it went. He still shows you flashes absolutely 419 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: toward when he got back in there this year, right, 420 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: he looks a little good for a while. So then 421 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: in that draft, I think twenty eighteen is a really 422 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen to me is kind of the year you 423 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: look at and go honestly normal. But you had Baker 424 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: going number one overall, and he had a success early 425 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: and then when he hit a valley, he got in 426 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: his own way. Then you had Sam Darnold, then you 427 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: had Josh Allen. Then at the very end you had 428 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. So you were all over the map with 429 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: all these different styles of quarterbacks. But the teams that 430 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: really figured it out and got it right, like Baltimore 431 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: crafted an offense around Lamar, Josh Allen and the Bills, 432 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: even though I've said, and I think because Josh's passing 433 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: acumen has improved, I don't think they need to run 434 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: him as much. But Buffalo took that offense, Brian Dable 435 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: took it kind of crafted around what Josh could do, 436 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: and then they added a bunch of pieces. But Josh 437 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: Allen didn't go to another level till twenty twenty when 438 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: what they traded for Stefon Diggs. Putting pieces around that 439 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 1: particular player and quarterback. I think that's that to me, 440 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: is is gonna end up being the key whoever's gonna 441 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: hate quarterback here, whoever it's gonna be. Pieces around him 442 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: have got to improve. The offensive schemes got to improve, 443 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: the offensive executions got to improve, and just the overall 444 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: plan of how they go about things offensively has got 445 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: to improve to help that quarterback and vice versa. The 446 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: quarterback help all of that maneuver in the right direction. Well, 447 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,719 Speaker 1: he's got to get better, like we always say, he's 448 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: got to get better. The thing about Tuah, you tell 449 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: me the twenty twenty draft. During the twenty nineteen NFL season, 450 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: what was the battle cry among the fans in Miami 451 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: Tank for tak Thank for the number one guy. There's 452 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: no question about this. At what point does Joe Burrow 453 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: overtake Tuah as the consensus outside looking in anyway number 454 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: one prospect in that draft? Did it happen right after 455 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: the championship before the championship. It happened for me when 456 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: and I don't I don't mean this because it was 457 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: against Toua. It had nothing to do with that, But 458 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: it was when Joe Burrow all all these games he 459 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: had played, he was just lighting everybody up. It's like, 460 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: let's see him do it against Bama. Let's see him 461 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: do it against Alabama. And then he did it, and 462 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: if he does it against Alabama, I'll start believing. And 463 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 1: then not only did he do it against Alabama, he 464 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: was he was unstoppable against Alabama and he did it 465 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: what he runs, he was unbelievable against Alabama. That's when 466 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: I was like, and it had nothing to do with too. 467 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: Two had a great game in that game, too, had 468 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: nothing to do with what two was doing or not doing. 469 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: It was Joe Burrow that day beating the one defense 470 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 1: that everybody felt like, Okay, can he do that? Can 471 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 1: he beat that defense? There's no way it's not happening. 472 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: Because the year before in Baton Rouge, that defense ate 473 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,239 Speaker 1: him alive. And then all of a sudden, he goes 474 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: to Tuscaloosa in nineteen and he shredded them, shredded them. 475 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: I thought, Okay, this is wow, this is this is different, 476 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,239 Speaker 1: this is different. And then after that game, he just 477 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: went another level every single week until he was, you know, 478 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,479 Speaker 1: finishing it against Clempson in the National Championship Game. All right. 479 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: We will continue this conversation from now until the end 480 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: of time, actually until the Texans solidified their quarterback situation. 481 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: I hope that's sooner than the end of time. It 482 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: will be. We have free agency coming up, the draft 483 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 1: coming up, Combine next week. Next up Who's Better? We 484 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: will feature all Star games. I wonder how that came 485 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: up other leagues. I wonder how that came up other 486 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: coaches and draft prospects. Why not? It's next? Is Texans Radio? 487 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 1: Great to have you listening this evening, Texans All Access, 488 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,239 Speaker 1: Mark Vandermayer and John Harris with you, and we are 489 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: ready to play Who's Better? We usually do this on Thursdays, 490 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: but we're kind of mixing things up in the offseason. 491 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: Let's do this, Johnny, Are you ready to play? Of course? Absolutely? 492 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: And geez, Who's better? The XFL or the new USFL 493 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 1: going into its second season. This is the third installment 494 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: of the XFL, which just relaunched this weekend. Which one 495 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 1: is better? Johnny? I'm gonna give the XFL the edge 496 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: for one reason, and one reason only is in it's crazy. 497 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: I get why the USFL has done it this way, 498 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: but I like the fact that the XFL plays in 499 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: the cities in which they claim to be Ye. Thank 500 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: USFL did everything in Birmingham, which I understand was to 501 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: keep expenses down. I understand that. But they gotta in 502 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: some ways find a connection to the city they're in. 503 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: They're not just well, we're the Houston Gamblers when we 504 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 1: play every game in Birmingham. Uh okay, nobody as nobody 505 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,719 Speaker 1: in Houston even understands what's going on. They have no clue. 506 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: And people in Houston have a connection out to the Roughnecks. 507 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: So yeah, there's a little one there at least here, Yeah, exactly, 508 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: And if the Gamblers were here, there might be who knows, 509 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: there was back in the day when the USFL existed 510 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: in the eighties. Love those games, Yeah, Jim Kelly and 511 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: those guys. Those guys were gunslingers. Oh wait, that was 512 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: another USFL team based in San Antonio. But those guys 513 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: threw the ball at awful lot. They were fun to watch. 514 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: They ran that run and shoot stuff and it was good. 515 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: Our buddy Tony Fitzpatrick, we had him on during training camp. 516 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: He was visiting camp, but we had him on the 517 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 1: ear talking about those days. I'm with you, there's no 518 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: question that playing in front of fans is a better 519 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: way to go this just in I do love those 520 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: old USFL unis, I do, and they modernize them. But look, 521 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: I full disclosure here, I have a Boston Breakers shirt. 522 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: They're not called the Boston Breakers anymore. They're the New 523 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: Orleans Breakers because that was the second city in which 524 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: the Breakers were located. But I remember watching them in 525 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: Boston out of my dorm room window. So I love 526 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: the Breakers back in the day, and I still have 527 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: a Breakers shirt. I reordered it a reissue year. That's 528 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 1: the only difference. I would say. Yeah, all the USFL teams, 529 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I think back to those are fun games 530 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: to watch. The USFL did what a Maverick league, if 531 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: you want to call it that. They that league did 532 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: what it was supposed to do. It went out, It 533 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 1: fought for players the NFL, and it won in the one. 534 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: Steve Young, they got Steve Young, they'd Reggie White. But 535 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: the Memphis show Boats, I mean Kelly, they went out. Yeah, 536 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: Jim Kelly Herschel. Jim Kelly. There's a famous line in 537 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: the in the thirty for thirty about the Bills, where 538 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: he's being interviewed here in Houston, and he's asked about 539 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: why why Buffalo over Houston. He's like, it's Houston over Buffalo. 540 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: Like we're outside today, it's you know, whatever degrees it 541 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: is in Houston versus what it is in Buffalo. I mean, 542 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: it's not And he said it's not very hard to see, 543 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 1: of course, that he ends up in Buffaloe and beat 544 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: the Winters. Yeah, well that was Frank Rych though, So 545 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: there was exactly. But the point being, I used to 546 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: love those USFL teas. I just think the XFL has 547 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: because it's playing right now here in Houston's probably got 548 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: a better a better connection to the city itself, and 549 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: I would like see it for the USFL. If that 550 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: happens for the USFL, I'll probably see the USFL. Yeah, 551 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: maybe with those uniforms and everything in the league support 552 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: they get from the networks. But look, it all shows 553 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: you that there's nothing like the real thing, baby, and 554 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: that would be the NFL. All right, who's better? Let's continue? 555 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: What's better? The Pro Bowl games as it is now 556 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: or the way the Pro Bowl most recently was, which 557 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: was basically a patty cake thud game in pads? Would 558 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: you rather have it the way it was in previous years. 559 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about like in the eighties and early 560 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: nineties when people still really hit in the Pro Bowl. 561 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the recent Pro Bowls at actual NFL 562 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: sort of game or this version with the touch football. 563 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: In other words, did they improve on it or not. 564 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: I think the the Pro Bowl games were intriguing the 565 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: game itself. The last few years. I didn't care. I 566 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: didn't watch it. I have not watched an All Star 567 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: contest of any kind, and I don't know how long 568 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: I have not watched. I didn't watch the Baseball Star Game. 569 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: If I did, that would be the one I would watch, 570 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: because they micup players out in the outfield and mike 571 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: them up at short the micup pictures. I like hearing 572 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: that stuff, hear what they're thinking talking with John Smoltz 573 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: or whoever that might be. I'll watch that. I've watched 574 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl and I haven't watched the NBA All 575 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: Star Game for years either one. But the Pro Bowl 576 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: games I at least watched some of it. I was 577 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: curious to see what they had going on. I was 578 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: intrigued by it. And then the Flight Football game was 579 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: cool that different things going on during game. I like that, 580 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: although that was cool. I'd like the Pro Bowl games, 581 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: so they approved on it. Yes, good stuff, all right? 582 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: Who's better better results in a higher Carolina with Frank 583 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: Reich or Denver with Sean Payton. Who's gonna do better Johnny, 584 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: Frank Reich and Carolina, Sean Payton and Denver? This comes 585 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: down to one question, and we all know what it is. 586 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: What Russell Wilson will show up. If Russell Wilson is 587 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: the Russell Wilson we saw for the majority of his 588 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: career Sean Payton all day every day. Now, what comes first? 589 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: Chicken in the egg to Shaun Payton? Make Russell Wilson 590 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: that guy? Would Frank Reich have made Russell Wilson that guy? 591 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just know that last year wasn't it. 592 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: Here's the thing that I worries me if I'm a 593 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: Broncos fan. Twenty twenty one, if you watch closely enough, 594 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: that wasn't it either, And for the most part in 595 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: either it was twenty twenty. Now it is a COVID year, 596 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: so you know, okay, but really the last three years 597 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: for Russell Wilson, You go, man, I not all the 598 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: way there on this, so they were Craig Craig so 599 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: I don't know that the I mean the biggest trading 600 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: for Russell Wilson. I had no issue with the broncos 601 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: I thought it was a good move, like oh to 602 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: Degree giving him the contract was adiotic, Yeah, but the contract, 603 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: the trade capital was still it was pretty rich. That 604 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: that was a bit much that all said. Um, I 605 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: vote Peyton. I think he's he's won a super Bowl, 606 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: He's been around obviously longer as a head coach. I 607 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: have always liked Frank Reich always, and I hate saying 608 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: that because he has obviously a famous one over the others, 609 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: but I never held it against him. Always feel like 610 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: he was a true professional. I feel like the way 611 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: he went about his business, I felt like he was 612 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: he was handed um kind of a crazy deck when 613 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: he went to Indianapolis, especially this last year. But unfortunately 614 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: what happened to him, Hey, I can make Carson Wentz work. 615 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: And then with Carson Wentz didn't work. And it wasn't 616 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: so much that Carson Wentz on the field was a failure, 617 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: but him getting COVID or he didn't get COVID. But 618 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. He was a close contact 619 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: to someone COVID and he had to sit out because 620 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: that those are the rules. As a leader of the 621 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: team he had that can happen. It happened in the 622 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: most important week. They lose. Then he plays terribly against Jacksonville. 623 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: That's in the house of cards. Unfortunately fell well, unfortunately, fortunately, 624 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: unfortunately it fell for the cards. So I've always liked Frank, 625 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go Sean Payton on this. I think 626 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: Payton's gonna I think Peyton will pull every ounce of 627 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: success out of Russell Wilson, and if he doesn't there 628 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: one year further removed, maybe they can do something with 629 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: the contract. But Mark that salary cap hit for Russell 630 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: Wilson is no joke, Yes, and I know joke. This 631 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: is another reason, Holy Count. I'm gonna favor Frank Reich 632 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: in this deal because of the division, because I think 633 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: even if Denver well, they could still be no better 634 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: than the third best team in that division, behind the 635 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: Chargers and the Kansas City Chiefs. I don't think the 636 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: Raiders are gonna do much, but you never know. And 637 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: I think Carolina has got wide open virgin forest there 638 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: in the NFC South. If they get it right at 639 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: quarterback and Wright doesn't have to be the franchise guy necessarily, 640 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: just a Geno Smith type performance out of somebody might 641 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: be enough to win that division for Carolina. Do we 642 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: know any of the quarterbacks in the NFC South, Yeah, 643 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: we can guess, but Falcons. Do we know? No, Panthers, 644 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: No Saints. No, that's a great point, Bucks. No, we 645 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: don't know a quarterback. In the end. It's a mystery 646 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: quarterback division. I think it's great. It's great fun, great 647 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: talk for them all offseason long. Who who's gonna going 648 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: to really lead those teams? I wonder who's gonna quarterback 649 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: Kansas City this year? Yeah? I think we know that. 650 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: All right, who's better? Let's continue better career? Now we'll 651 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: go draft prospects here, and dare we not talk about 652 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: a quarterback draft prospect? Let's talk about receivers. Better prospect 653 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: from USC Jordan Addison or from TCU Quentin Um I 654 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: have Johnston? Did I not say that? Rated? That's what 655 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: you said. I just make it sure because I've heard 656 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of that out there, and 657 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: I went on a little rant the other day about it. 658 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: Um I have Johnston rated higher, and here's where I separated. 659 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: I think Quintin Johnston, at six four two seventeen has 660 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: e lee traits in size speed that Jordan Addison doesn't have. Now, 661 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean Jordan Adison's slow. Jordan Adison is not slow. 662 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: He is. He can fly, but he's six foot one 663 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: seventy five and that that makes a major difference. I 664 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: think that Jordan Addison is a much more polished receiving threat, 665 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: but I think Johnston learning the game at the NFL 666 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 1: level can be a freaka zoid. So I think Quentin 667 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: Johnston is that he's higher on my Harris one hundred 668 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 1: than Jordan Addison is not by much. There's like two 669 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: spots that separate him. But that's that's the dilemma I had, 670 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 1: because I feel like Addison's a better overall receive for 671 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: doing receiver things than Johnston is. But Johnson is such 672 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: a freaky athlete and can still do the receiver things, 673 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,399 Speaker 1: just not as well and as polished as Addison. Okay, 674 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: I've got one more quick one for your TV viewer. 675 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: Help here. What's better? So who's better? What's better? TV 676 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: viewing experience on Netflix? Formula one reality series or the 677 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 1: Full Swing Golf reality series. This is tough because one 678 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,959 Speaker 1: resurrected the sport the F one series Ready to Drive. 679 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: I think it's called Formula Drive. I mean, it's incredible. 680 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,760 Speaker 1: It got me interested in F one. I've been interested 681 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: in golf, but I think I've learned more about the 682 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: golfers F one. I've learned everything about the sport, where 683 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: they drove, how it worked. I'm gonna say the F 684 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: one show because that, to me just changed everything. I 685 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 1: didn't even care about driving. I really care about NASCAR, 686 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,919 Speaker 1: but I watched those I wanted to know. I've sat 687 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,919 Speaker 1: and watched the full Monaco Race in twenty two because 688 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: i watched all those F one shows. So I'm gonna 689 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,320 Speaker 1: go F one. Yeah, I like tremendous. I haven't finished 690 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: the Golf show yet. I got two or three episodes left. 691 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,720 Speaker 1: I watched maybe episode one of the F one series. 692 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: I need to jump back into that one Full Swing though, 693 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 1: I am right in that I just started. I'm already 694 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: on episode four, so I'm not fully binging. I'm not 695 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 1: gonna missleep the Binges show. I'm matured beyond that. Must 696 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: The show is really good. I'm matured beyond that. But man, 697 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: that brooks Kepka episode tells you everything you need to 698 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 1: know about golf and a guy who is piping hot, 699 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: hottest golfer in the world, and how he lost his confidence, 700 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: and how you can have everything in the world. You 701 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 1: can have all the money, you could have majors, you 702 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: could have the smoking hot wife, smoking hot house. But 703 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 1: if you don't have your act together professionally or in 704 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 1: what you really love to do, you might be miserable. 705 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,879 Speaker 1: And this is a great example of that. And I'm 706 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,240 Speaker 1: curious to see where his career goes. He's with Live now, 707 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 1: which you know, when you watch this show, you see 708 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 1: why he did it. He how disruptive Live was to 709 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: the Gulf world. That still is crazy to me. It's 710 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 1: been unbelievable, still is. It's weird stuff. All right, Johnny, 711 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: thank you, And next up, Phil Harrison Buckeye Wire talks 712 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: with Deep City about c J. Stroud. You've heard of him. 713 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: All you need to know about that quarterback prospect coming 714 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: up here on Texans Radio. All right, final segment here 715 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 1: on the show tonight, Let's get into quarterback prospects. This 716 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,760 Speaker 1: one CJ. Stroud from Ohio State, and Deep City catches 717 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,720 Speaker 1: up with Phil Harrison of Buck Guy Wire to talk 718 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: about what Stroud brings to the table, part of a 719 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: series Deep is doing with reporters who cover these guys 720 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 1: coming out of college. Phil, I feel like last year 721 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 1: were talking wide receivers and this year we're going to 722 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 1: talk quarterback with CJ. Stroud. What are your thoughts about 723 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 1: him in this whole quarterback debate CJ versus Bryce Young. 724 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 1: I know people in Houston love talking about it, but 725 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: give us your best pitch for CJ. Stroud being the 726 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: number one quarterback. Sure, you know best pitch, you know 727 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: obviously coming from the Ohio State side of things, but 728 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 1: seen CJ. Strout a lot more than than Bryce Young. 729 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 1: I'm not taking anything away from Bryce Young because clearly 730 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: I think you could, you can. You're not gonna go 731 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,760 Speaker 1: wrong either way. There. What CJ has that Bryce probably 732 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 1: doesn't have is you know, you always worry about the 733 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: hype factor, right. They factor has been talked about with 734 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: Bryce Young the lot. CJ. Strout has the measurables. He's 735 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 1: he's kind of long, he's got m he's six foot three, 736 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 1: can see over defenses, so he kind of has that 737 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 1: the prototypical historical quarterback body. Right. Um, so there's that 738 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: now we've seen in the past here recently that that 739 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 1: there's been plenty of quarterbacks overcome that hype thing. You know, 740 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray comes to mind. Um, you know, there's just 741 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 1: guys that have shown that's not really as big a 742 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 1: deal as maybe some some people thought. But the scout said, 743 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 1: executives are going to look at that, They're gonna look 744 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 1: at the hYP they're gona look at everything. And then 745 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,280 Speaker 1: the other thing I would say that sets Cj apart 746 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: from Bryce Young is his accuracy. He's highly accurate, not 747 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 1: only in the mid you know, all three levels of 748 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: the field. He can make all the throws. His deep 749 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 1: ball is really really good. And he completed seventy percent 750 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,359 Speaker 1: of his passes two years ago. I know that went 751 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 1: down a little bit this year, but he did have 752 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: the one game where it was basically a gale force 753 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 1: wins at Northwestern that kind of brought that percentage down. 754 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 1: So very very accurate passer. And I'll also say, if 755 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 1: you're looking for a guy to be the face of 756 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 1: a franchise, CJ. Stroud in all my years of covering 757 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 1: Ohio State and being a fan and all that is 758 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: probably the most humble and down to a person that 759 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: we have ever seen in the quarterback position, and that's 760 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: kind of you know, Justin Fields was good in that 761 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: area too, But CJ. Strouds always deplex praise to his teammates. 762 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 1: He's very, very, very grounded in his faith and is 763 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 1: just a really good human being. So if you don't 764 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 1: want to worry about off the field issues or a 765 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 1: guy being a cancer in locker room, CJ. Strauds, You're 766 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 1: gonna have no problem with that at all. Well, he 767 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 1: has been certainly a lot of fun to watch, but 768 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people talk about the NFL caliber weapons 769 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,959 Speaker 1: that he has to throw to as well, which, oddly enough, 770 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: sometimes is a negative that you know, he he's got 771 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: all these weapons that he can throw to, But how 772 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 1: much of the success of the wide receivers really lands 773 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 1: on Strouds shoulders just in being able to put them 774 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 1: in a position to make those sort of plays. Yeah, 775 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: and that's one thing I think CJ does really well. 776 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean that is a talking point, right. 777 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: Bryce Young also had good weapons around him now Ohio 778 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 1: States wide receiver core over the last few years have 779 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 1: been ridiculous. I mean they've been really good. Yeah, two 780 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 1: first rounders go last year and you're probably another one 781 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,360 Speaker 1: this year. But yeah, I mean that goes into it. 782 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 1: But CJ does a really good job with his accuracy. 783 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: He trusts his receivers, and if you go back and 784 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 1: watch game film, he always puts it, you know, in 785 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: a spot where his guy can go make a play. 786 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: So sometimes to do a back shoulder, sometimes he puts it, 787 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 1: you know, he leads them into areas that open windows, 788 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 1: and so I think he does a really good job 789 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 1: with it. Clearly as receivers that he's had his help 790 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 1: a little bit, but you can see his ability to 791 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 1: read defenses and put the ball where his playmakers can 792 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 1: go get it. So I think, you know, if you're 793 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 1: looking for a guy at the NFL level, those windows 794 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: are probably gona a little bit tighter, But he has 795 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 1: a really good job of plugging the ball where his 796 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,760 Speaker 1: guy can make a play. Some critics say that Strout 797 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 1: is maybe not as effective when facing pressure since he's 798 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 1: a pure pocket passer. Where does he fit into a 799 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,879 Speaker 1: league that is really trending towards more mobile quarterbacks. Yeah, 800 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 1: it's I think it's a bit of a concern and 801 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 1: we have seen, you know times I have seen him 802 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 1: stand in the pocket and make throws plenty occasions. But 803 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 1: you know, with any quarterback, I think your rate of 804 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,319 Speaker 1: completion is going to go down a little bit. It's 805 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,919 Speaker 1: a risk reward thing, right. That's probably an area though 806 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: that he probably could grow a little bit. You know. 807 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 1: The other thing that is talking about that a little 808 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 1: bit with pressure come in. I think one of the 809 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 1: things that he's not done enough of and Ohio State 810 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 1: fans will nod their head if they hear this is 811 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,879 Speaker 1: when the pressure comes, he's pretty hesitant to take off 812 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 1: and take what the defense gives him with his legs. 813 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: So I think that's probably his biggest area in growth. 814 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 1: We saw him do that against Georgia and all of 815 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 1: a sudden, you know, Ohio State's moving the ball a 816 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 1: lot more because he did take off with us and 817 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: use his legs a little bit more, and you kind 818 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 1: of need that in today's game. So his ability to 819 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,840 Speaker 1: understand where pressure comes from is pretty good. But yeah, 820 00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 1: there's a little bit of growth there, I think, with 821 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,720 Speaker 1: ability to get the ball out a little bit quicker 822 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,479 Speaker 1: where it needs to go and then to be able 823 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: to give what the defense given to him when it 824 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,799 Speaker 1: breaks down and get out of pocket and start making 825 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 1: some plays with his legs. All right, you talked about 826 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,400 Speaker 1: his personality a little bit, but are there any particular 827 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,359 Speaker 1: moments or stories about CJ. Strout that you could share 828 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,239 Speaker 1: that have really stood out to you over just your 829 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 1: time covering him. I will point to it's just funny 830 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,880 Speaker 1: how he comes to the defense of his players and 831 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 1: his coaches, because he's just that type of guy. Ohiosa 832 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:29,840 Speaker 1: lost to Michigan for two years in a row, and 833 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 1: so the press conference afterwards was not a very pleasant 834 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 1: one for him or his head coach. They were where 835 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,800 Speaker 1: they're together, and of course I got peppered by the 836 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 1: media because Ohio State it's not used to losing to Michigan. 837 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 1: It's been two years in a row. And they're asking CJ. 838 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,319 Speaker 1: Sitting off to the side, you're not even being He's 839 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 1: not even being asked the question. It's Ryan Day that's 840 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 1: being asked the question. And they ask him about some 841 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 1: of the play calls, and all sudden you hear you 842 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 1: hear CJ. Chiming said, Oh, it was a great play call, 843 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,399 Speaker 1: a really good play call I stand by it all 844 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 1: the time. It was like he he just has that 845 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 1: mentality where he he enjoys competition, he enjoys being around 846 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 1: the guys that he plays with, and he's going to 847 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,719 Speaker 1: defend in a good way. But he just has the 848 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 1: back of all of his players and his coaches. It's refreshing. 849 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,880 Speaker 1: There's Phil Harrison with dep City in our series covering 850 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 1: quarterbacks and the beat writers that covered them in college. 851 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 1: Much more on that on Houston Texans dot com and 852 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:26,319 Speaker 1: the Texans App tomorrow. Another show draft Wednesday. We'll talk 853 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: about it John McClain on Thursday. And we've got some 854 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,279 Speaker 1: great shows coming up from the Combine next week as well. 855 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 1: Have a great night everyone, Go Texans.