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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan in

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Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing and we're thrilled to sit down

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Speaker 1: with cornerback Nate Wiggins. And Nate. You joined us in

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Speaker 1: the summer for an episode of the Lounge, and we

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Speaker 1: started out talking about your your box celebration, right, and

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Speaker 1: how we are so pumped for that and it's our

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Speaker 1: favorite celebration on the team.

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Speaker 2: Ten minutes talking about this.

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Speaker 1: A little while, and I'm not gonna lie to you, Nate,

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Speaker 1: you haven't done even though you've been boxing people up,

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Speaker 1: you haven't been doing the box celebration as much as

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Speaker 1: I would have liked. Why Why haven't you been boxing?

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Speaker 3: I've been catching more picks this year, so I ain't

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Speaker 3: been giing enough path to flesh. So it's only I

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Speaker 3: only do it only. You gotta be a big, big play,

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Speaker 3: big passive flesh. I don't do it out there everyone.

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Speaker 4: So, but what about it?

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Speaker 2: You don't do it after a pick? Na, it's only

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Speaker 2: the PBu.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because the pick I don't really bought you up.

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Speaker 3: I caught the ball like PBu sure, so you can't

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Speaker 3: catch it. So it gotta gotta makes sense.

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Speaker 5: I did notice during intros you do the thumbs down.

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Speaker 2: Though, what about the thumbs down? I don't feel like

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Speaker 2: you're doing that as much this year either.

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Speaker 3: I I don't even I just mean I think this year,

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Speaker 3: I mean, like, I mean, my whole voages or whatever

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Speaker 3: whatever comes to my head, I do it. So uh

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Speaker 3: but people know, like everybody know, that's still the thumbs down. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I still still the box man.

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Speaker 1: We see teammates do it sometimes. I feel like I've

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Speaker 1: seen Kyle do it. I've seen different guys do it.

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Speaker 1: So it's spreading.

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Speaker 5: Yea.

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Speaker 1: So I remember you also talked about you you kind

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Speaker 1: of predicted that you you wanted more takeaways this year.

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Speaker 1: You're getting more takeaways this year. I mean that just

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Speaker 1: has to be really gratifying for you. And why do

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Speaker 1: you think that's been the case?

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Speaker 3: Probably just study habits, study, working hard practice, just really

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Speaker 3: focusing on the ball more. I felt like last year

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Speaker 3: it was just fast moving, fast paced. I'm just trying

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Speaker 3: to get to the zone. This year, I'm just trying

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Speaker 3: to worry about catching the ball.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, what has changed with your study habits?

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Speaker 2: Is that, like, take me through your process.

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Speaker 5: Is it the work that you're doing, either in the

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Speaker 5: classroom here and the time you're spending with the coaches,

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Speaker 5: is your teammates, is it at home? Like how has

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Speaker 5: that changed and evolved?

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Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie one person. Shout out to my

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Speaker 3: boy Cheeto. He really like helped me like take notes,

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Speaker 3: h look at film differently. So Cheeto he had a

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Speaker 3: big part in my study habits.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's interesting. So so like what did he kind

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Speaker 1: of recommend, Like how how did he suggest that you

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Speaker 1: should take notes differently than what you were doing?

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Speaker 3: Just separate, separating my notes so like quick game, drop back,

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Speaker 3: play adds and just in separate order. So, uh, everything

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Speaker 3: I bunched up on top of each other and I

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Speaker 3: know what's going on.

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Speaker 4: So I can go to one.

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Speaker 3: Section everything there on drop back and go to one

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Speaker 3: session everything then play accent.

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Speaker 1: And so when you're out there on the field, how

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Speaker 1: often are you referencing? Do you reference that stuff? You're like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm expecting this is going to be drop back for them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, certain formations and certain tendencies the quarterback dude.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're referencing the notes mentally. That's interesting. And

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Speaker 1: can you talk about just kind of outside of the notes,

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Speaker 1: the veteran kind of leadership that Cheeto has brought because

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Speaker 1: a lot of fans aren't familiar with him since his

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Speaker 1: first year. Here tell fans about Cheeto.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Cheeto.

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Speaker 3: Uh, that's another another man in the dB DV room.

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Speaker 3: Just uh, I mean I DV room, Like we got

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Speaker 3: many personalities, but I feel like, uh, he stick out.

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Speaker 3: He just wanted the vet vetan president room. He stick out,

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Speaker 3: very outspoken. You gonna know he in the room.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: He always wanted to be He always want to play.

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Speaker 3: So I feel like he definitely being a spark to

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Speaker 3: He very smart, Yeah, very high. So he brings, he brings.

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Speaker 3: He brings a lot to the table to the room.

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Speaker 5: You mentioned his intelligence. That's something that stands out to me,

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Speaker 5: Like he's a guy that's seen it. He's been in

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Speaker 5: the league for a while, so he's seen a lot.

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Speaker 5: I had him miked up on Ravens Wired recently and

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Speaker 5: in that game, you could see him calling stuff out

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Speaker 5: before the play, watch the slant, watch the deep ball.

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Speaker 2: That type of stuff.

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Speaker 5: Has that also translated and is what's the impact of

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Speaker 5: that actually within the game.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, So like in the game, like you said,

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Speaker 3: calling he telling us the formations.

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Speaker 4: He's just very like.

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Speaker 3: How could I say, like very into it, like information wise,

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Speaker 3: the concept wise of the game. So like you said,

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Speaker 3: he's seen it all, like ninth season and the least,

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Speaker 3: so he's seen it all.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, helped us a lot.

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Speaker 1: Right, It feels like for you this season, like you

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Speaker 1: become that dude you know like that. I think we

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Speaker 1: all anticipated when the Ravens drafted you last year, you know,

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Speaker 1: and and as rookie, we saw that growth at rapid growth,

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Speaker 1: and once you got more time and all that stuff,

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Speaker 1: and coming into your second year, we're like, you know,

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Speaker 1: coaches even said it, like we think they can be

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Speaker 1: one of the top corners in this game. Do you

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Speaker 1: feel that? How do you feel differently in year two

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Speaker 1: versus when you're a rookie.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I'm I ain't even at my best

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Speaker 3: yet right now. I feel like I'm still like growing.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: I know, I know a lot of people might think

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Speaker 3: to be better for I know, I can be way better,

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Speaker 3: but I know I'm definitely confident in myself though I

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Speaker 3: and I feel like I can I could beat anybody

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that where does your confidence come from?

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Speaker 5: Because it's a parent, it's a parent on the practice field,

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Speaker 5: it's a parent when we have conversations like you you

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Speaker 5: you want the challenge of going up against top guys, Like,

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Speaker 5: where does that confidence within you come from?

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Speaker 3: Probably my mom. She's just always been on me, uh

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Speaker 3: that's probably where it comes from.

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Speaker 2: Which gives you your mom.

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Speaker 5: I'm curious about your mom is as challenging you, Like,

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Speaker 5: is there an example of either as you were a

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Speaker 3: I ain't want to play football at first, and she

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Speaker 1: Anyway.

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Speaker 2: She just felt like you.

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Speaker 5: She just felt like you would you were gonna like it,

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Speaker 5: or she she felt like you were a good fit.

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Speaker 2: Like what was it that made her want to do she?

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Speaker 3: I mean because I told her I wanted to play football.

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Speaker 3: Like when once I told her I do something, she

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Speaker 1: So so did you get hit or something, You're like, nah,

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Speaker 3: No, yeah, I think I played running back my first year.

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Speaker 4: She was going for it.

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Speaker 3: So I feel like from that day before, I always

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Speaker 4: I gotta finish well.

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Speaker 5: Have you ever curious about I'm curious about that because

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Speaker 5: like you, you're a smaller, leaner guy. You're a leaner guy,

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Speaker 5: and when you talk about not backing down, like I

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Speaker 5: remember when the Ravens drafted you and that was part

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Speaker 5: But one thing that stood out to me from the

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Speaker 5: like you don't play scared, Like you're not afraid to

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Speaker 5: bigger running back or bigger tight end, like you don't

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Speaker 5: that part of what your mom has instilled in you?

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Speaker 5: And is that just the way that you approach the game?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I just feel like, uh, I mean, we

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Speaker 3: like nothing to be scared of the human. I'm human,

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Speaker 3: he brasedly too, like I bresed my twoth. So ain't

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Speaker 3: no superhero. Ain't no superhero.

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Speaker 1: So have you ever seen these videos where like the

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Speaker 4: Now, yeah, I don't know what I'll do right in

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Speaker 4: that moment. I know what I do. My mama competit hers,

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Speaker 4: so she probably gonna bring it to me too.

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Speaker 1: So she's got a load of the shoulder.

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Speaker 4: She's gonna load the shoulder. So I can't let my mom.

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Speaker 2: Shena take it eat.

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Speaker 1: So going against the Bengals this week, obviously there's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a lot of talk about Jamar Chase and whatnot.

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Speaker 1: And you've gone up against him now you know multiple

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Speaker 1: times how tough of a cover is he? And I know,

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Speaker 1: like you just got done saying, you know, these guys

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Speaker 1: aren't superheroes whatever. He puts his pants on one leg

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Speaker 1: at the time, just like you. But take us inside

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Speaker 1: his game? What makes him tough to cover?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he just uh physical? I mean he got auto trade.

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Speaker 3: He can catch her, he can catch the ball, catching traffic,

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Speaker 3: he can get open. So he just got audit trade

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Speaker 3: that receive him want for real? So does what makes him?

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Speaker 1: Very specifically, and as Garrett was saying, you know, you've

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Speaker 1: gone up to coaches this year even and said I

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Speaker 1: want I want the guy right, And how does take

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Speaker 1: us inside? How that works? Like is that you just

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Speaker 1: a knock on the door in their office and like

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Speaker 1: take us inside that conversation.

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Speaker 3: Oh it's probably uh like say it's Monday, I see

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Speaker 3: who we got on uh on the board, and it

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Speaker 3: just I tipped uh, but going on like, uh, what's

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Speaker 3: what's the plan for this week? Like you know, I

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Speaker 3: don't really think I gotta say too much. I just

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Speaker 3: asked him, what's the planned for this week? He tells me,

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Speaker 3: like you want him? Or uh, they moved it. The

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Speaker 3: number one guy moved too much, So we're just gonna

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Speaker 3: have you play side.

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Speaker 1: So interesting, got you got? So if the number one

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting and you said that, you know there

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Speaker 4: So that's what that's what I'm living up to.

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Speaker 5: You shaking your head? You had a couple of them.

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Speaker 1: That running back in you still in there.

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Speaker 3: Still in there, still in there. I've been trying to

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Speaker 4: Caught by alignment. But once I get it, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: That was what the Browns one, right, I mean had angle.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I'll be trying to down It's all good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm gonna say.

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Speaker 5: It's it's funny because you come up with a pick

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Speaker 4: That was a crazy moment.

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Speaker 1: Right when did Cheeto? Who was it? Didn't somebody like

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 3: Almost Cheeto told a lot of energy. He got a

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Speaker 4: Like totally different people.

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Speaker 1: Right right, I'm kind of curious. All right, So we

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Speaker 6: Marlin, I start with the toughest one, crazy Kyle, laid back,

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Speaker 4: Uh, I'm just one on one man, just one on one.

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Speaker 5: How would you describe the conversations and the mindset going

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Speaker 3: Just uh, we know we control our own destiny for real,

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Speaker 4: So we gotta go win. That's the plan, just whin.

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Speaker 3: I like, if you said just one day at a time,

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Speaker 4: That's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Can't wait.

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Speaker 5: And lastly, one thing I did want to mention or

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Speaker 5: you you had you know, you were my cause my

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Speaker 1: Great? Do you do? You and Kyle bond is Atlanta guys? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's connection, all right? Yeah, awesome? All right man. Well,

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Speaker 2: More more more of the celebrations because the pick.

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Speaker 3: Just because I just said I'm I'm gonna get We.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: Crown is yours thanks to Nate. I I always enjoy

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Speaker 5: He's somebody that I think really deserves Pro Bowl consideration.

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Speaker 2: Pro Bowl voting is open now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And like he said, I think that there's such

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Speaker 1: I think it's really interesting that he's learning how to

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Speaker 1: of these bombs. I thought the Ravens did a good job,

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Speaker 1: especially early on in that first game against the Bengals,

445
00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,040
Speaker 1: of really playing kind of top down defense and forcing

446
00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,480
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow to get the ball out and go on shorter,

447
00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,960
Speaker 1: you know, with shorter passes. The Steelers said, We're not

448
00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,959
Speaker 1: even gonna mess with Kyle Hamilton and all that stuff

449
00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,480
Speaker 1: over the middle of field. We're just taking shots. Yeah,

450
00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,040
Speaker 1: we all have seen that from Joe Burrow in this

451
00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,960
Speaker 1: Bengals offense all too much over the years. The Ravens

452
00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:37,000
Speaker 1: surely know they what the Bengals are capable of. So

453
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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be kind of a good on

454
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Speaker 1: good matchup here. The Ravens are going to be prepared

455
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Speaker 1: for it, but that's what the Bengals like to do.

456
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Speaker 5: So we'll see if you go to the Steelers game

457
00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,399
Speaker 5: with DK Metcalf especially, I mean that whatever right on

458
00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,320
Speaker 5: that first series was that was DK against Marlon Humpt,

459
00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,879
Speaker 5: those big shots didn't come against Nate, that's correct.

460
00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:56,280
Speaker 2: One. It was against.

461
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Speaker 5: Cheetoh out of Keith down and then there was the

462
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Speaker 5: big play to dk metcalf on that first drive came

463
00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,360
Speaker 5: against Marlin. Nate's got the speed to run with anybody,

464
00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,200
Speaker 5: and so like, that's a tough matchup for a quarterback

465
00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,480
Speaker 5: and a receiver to beat him on the deep shots,

466
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Speaker 5: because that's one of the things that he's best at.

467
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Speaker 2: Yep.

468
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Speaker 5: And so I wonder if they'll try Nate on that

469
00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,120
Speaker 5: or if they will look and try at the other

470
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Speaker 5: corners and try Cheeto and try Marlin and see how

471
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Speaker 5: they hold up against some of those deep shots.

472
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that'll be part of this game plan. And

473
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Speaker 1: you know, it remains to be seen whether this is

474
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Speaker 1: going to turn into a shootout. That was all the

475
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Speaker 1: talk heading into the first matchup here just two weeks

476
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Speaker 1: ago against the Bengals. Will it be that this week

477
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Speaker 1: in Cincinnati? This is obviously a Bengals defense that is

478
00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,720
Speaker 1: still struggling. They ranked thirty second in the league and

479
00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,720
Speaker 1: yards allowed per game thirty second, in rush defense thirty first,

480
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,960
Speaker 1: and pass defense thirty second, in points allowed per game

481
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Speaker 1: thirty one point eight, So they're at the bottom of

482
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Speaker 1: the league and really every major defensive category. Once again,

483
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 1: the Bills just carved him up last week in the

484
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,639
Speaker 1: snow and Josh Allen had a huge day. So the

485
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,360
Speaker 1: Ravens offense, really, this is when you got to put

486
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Speaker 1: it together. You have have to and because you have

487
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 1: a tough time, you can contain, but you're gonna have

488
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 1: a tough time holding Joe Burrow and the Bengals offense

489
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Speaker 1: completely a bit.

490
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Speaker 5: I think that this is definitely a situation where we

491
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Speaker 5: want the offense to get rolling and against them. Two

492
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Speaker 5: weeks ago, there were two touchdowns that were one was

493
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Speaker 5: taking off the board. It was a long touchdown to

494
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Speaker 5: say Flowers, he got called for a push off opr.

495
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Speaker 1: A whole lot like the DK metcalf.

496
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Speaker 5: Honestly, that is by sidright, Like when I look at

497
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Speaker 5: that play, like Nate or Nate u Zay did extend

498
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,159
Speaker 5: his arm but like and probably didn't need to. But

499
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Speaker 5: I see that play happen like eight times a game,

500
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Speaker 5: it feels like and not necessarily called.

501
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Speaker 2: But whatever. So there was that was that was taken

502
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Speaker 2: off the board.

503
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Speaker 5: And then there was the fuball fumball fumble by Isaiah

504
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 5: likely at the goal line, and so you have two

505
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Speaker 5: touchdowns basically come off the board, which really skewed the

506
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Speaker 5: result of that game and the final score. With all

507
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Speaker 5: that said, like, I don't think a shootout is what

508
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Speaker 5: the Ravens want to get into against the Bengals. Like

509
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Speaker 5: the Bengals offense, for all the criticism of their defense

510
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,640
Speaker 5: and how low they rank, like, their offense can still

511
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,640
Speaker 5: put up points in a big way. And the Ravens

512
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,879
Speaker 5: had two shootouts with them last season. The Ravens came

513
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Speaker 5: out winning.

514
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Speaker 2: Both of those.

515
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Speaker 5: But I just don't think that's the type of game

516
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Speaker 5: you want to get into, especially with the ray of

517
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 5: the offense has struggled for the Ravens and putting up

518
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Speaker 5: points in the red zone. Like, I just don't think

519
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 5: you want to get into a shootout matchup. That's I

520
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 5: don't think the way that the Ravens are built.

521
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Speaker 1: This year, I don't think they want to either for sure. Yeah,

522
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 1: but it could be, but it could be. Yeah, score

523
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Speaker 1: is going to say, like you have to be prepared

524
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Speaker 1: to put up some points against the Bengals, so you

525
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 1: probably have to take a pretty aggressive stance offensively, And

526
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Speaker 1: I think to your earlier point, a lot of this

527
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 1: is going to come down to the red zone. That's

528
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 1: been the Ravens bugaboo. Certainly high up on the list

529
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Speaker 1: for this offense. And if they can be efficient and

530
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Speaker 1: score touchdowns against the Bengals, they can the Ravens offense

531
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Speaker 1: can put up numbers too. They can put up points,

532
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 1: but that's a big if because that's been a struggle

533
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Speaker 1: really all year. It's been difficult to pinpoint why, you know.

534
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Speaker 1: But if they can get over that hump in the

535
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Speaker 1: red zone, I think things can change pretty quickly for

536
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 1: this offense because I do believe that the past couple

537
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: weeks and you know, really in the second half against Pittsburgh,

538
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 1: this team is starting to move the ball more efficiently.

539
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 1: I think the ground game, you know, certainly was very

540
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Speaker 1: good against the Steelers. If you can continue that this

541
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Speaker 1: week against the Bengals, that'll be a big deal. And

542
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Speaker 1: so I think that this offense, as much as we've

543
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Speaker 1: all been surprised that it hasn't clicked like it did

544
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 1: last year, for sure, I think that there are some

545
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 1: signs that is starting to kind of put some things together.

546
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: It feels like there's some positive momentum there. They're not

547
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Speaker 1: finishing plays. They're not finishing in the red zone. You know,

548
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 1: the Isaiah likely you know touchdown that wasn't the push

549
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 1: off by you know Byaiy, the fumble at the goal,

550
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,679
Speaker 1: like all this stuff. They're not finishing some of these plays,

551
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: but like they're there.

552
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Speaker 2: They're literally as close as you can get.

553
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Speaker 5: Yes, Like those are as close as you can get moments,

554
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 5: and you need to finish those plays. I'm not like

555
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 5: discounting that, but you're as close as you can get.

556
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,199
Speaker 5: A note for the for the Bengals too, is that

557
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 5: it looks like t Higgens is unlikely to play in

558
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 5: this game and concussion protocol. He missed the Thanksgiving game.

559
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 5: That's a significant blow to that offense. Because he's such

560
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 5: a dynamic player. It allows you to shade a little

561
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 5: bit more over the top to Jamar he missed the

562
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 5: first game also, Yeah, exactly. He hasn't played against the

563
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Speaker 5: Ravens this year, so you can put even more attention

564
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Speaker 5: on Jamar Chase and trying to slow him down, which

565
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Speaker 5: I would expect the Ravens to do, so that would

566
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Speaker 5: be a pretty big blow for them if he is

567
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Speaker 5: not able to play right.

568
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Speaker 1: Ravens health wise Lamar Jackson did not practice on Wednesday,

569
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Speaker 1: and that's the fifth straight week where he did not

570
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Speaker 1: have a full week of practice. How much that's affecting

571
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Speaker 1: his performances, who knows. You can't really say, you know.

572
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Speaker 1: John Harball did say it was not injury related as

573
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Speaker 1: his rest day for Lamar Jackson. So this is kind

574
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Speaker 1: of like the approach that they've been taking to get

575
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Speaker 1: him as healthy as he can be for preparing for

576
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Speaker 1: games and playing games. So there's that. There's also Tvius

577
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Speaker 1: Robinson did say in the locker room Wednesday that he

578
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Speaker 1: anticipates playing against Bengals and making his return from his

579
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Speaker 1: foot injury, which he suffered way back in that Rams

580
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: game before the winning stream that was back Ravens felt

581
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: one in five and that lost in the Rams game

582
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: storm back, and now Tavis is here to kind of

583
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Speaker 1: stem the tide into two game losing streak and turn

584
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Speaker 1: things around going on winning streak here in in December.

585
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: So that's big for this defensive front, especially a big,

586
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Speaker 1: physical guy like Tavius. And he was getting after the

587
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:25,679
Speaker 1: quarterback a little bit too when he went down. He

588
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: was leading the team in sacks and so that if

589
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Speaker 1: that comes to fruition, as he said he anticipates playing

590
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Speaker 1: that would be a big deal.

591
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Tavis Robinson is a starter on this defense. He's

592
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 5: like one of the team's best outside linebackers. Rugged player

593
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Speaker 5: to good against the run because set the.

594
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Speaker 1: I and Draymont now together the partner those guys up.

595
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that you have some power, yes on that

596
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Speaker 2: defensive front.

597
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Speaker 5: And I like him as a player, and he indicated

598
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Speaker 5: he said that it was really tough to He said

599
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Speaker 5: it was even tough to watch the games just as

600
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Speaker 5: a observer. When he first went down with that injury,

601
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Speaker 5: it was kind of painful. But at this point he's

602
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Speaker 5: really not even thinking about the foot, So it seems

603
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 5: like he's fully bounced back from that and hopefully he

604
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 5: is able to make his return. The other guy is

605
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 5: our Darius Washington, yep, And he went down with a

606
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 5: torn achilles the spring and a lot of people felt

607
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 5: like that was going to be it for him. But

608
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 5: he came back to practice last week, practice fully on Friday,

609
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 5: and John Harboll said even last week there was a

610
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Speaker 5: chance that he was going to be available for the

611
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 5: Steelers game. Did not play in that game, but now

612
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 5: there's even a better chance that he's going to be

613
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Speaker 5: able to play in this game against the Bengals. The

614
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 5: question on him is like, what's the role look like?

615
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 5: Because the Ravens have a lot of pieces in the secondary.

616
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 5: They have a nice setup right now with Marlin Humphrey

617
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 5: playing a lot of snaps in the slot, with Kyle

618
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 5: Hamilton moving all over the place.

619
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Speaker 1: Well, Marlin's playing a lot outside too.

620
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Speaker 5: So he's Marlin plays inside and outside, but he plays

621
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Speaker 5: a lot of nickel. I think you have Nate Wagas

622
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 5: who obviously we just talked about Cheeto as well, and

623
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Speaker 5: then Lohi Gilman and Alexi Starks on the back end.

624
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 5: So like, where does our Darius fit into that? I

625
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 5: don't know exactly, but he's a another good player to

626
00:26:59,400 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 5: add to the quay.

627
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he could play some in the slot.

628
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 1: And I don't think I wouldn't anticipate a guy coming

629
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: back from Achilles in his first game back to sit

630
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: there and play eighty percent of snaps or something, you know,

631
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: especially in this in this defense with as many players

632
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: as you're talking about, and so you know, I think

633
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: that they could find him some snap's final role for

634
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: him that could be playing safety it could be playing

635
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 1: nickel wherever.

636
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Speaker 5: It is. The Other thing that's interesting, and this is

637
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 5: maybe think about it when you talk about this game

638
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 5: specifically for some of these guys coming back from injury,

639
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 5: It's going to be frigid in Cincinnati. I mean frigid,

640
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 5: single single digits wind chill high of like fourteen degrees.

641
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 2: For this game. It is going to be.

642
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 5: Brutally cold, and I think that that's going to have

643
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 5: a factor in this game, like once it gets The

644
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 5: Ravens haven't played in a really cool game like that

645
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 5: this year, like Sunday against the Steelers. Yeah it was

646
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 5: it was cold, but it was like sunny and it

647
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 5: was pretty nice, to be honest. Even Thanksgiving night it

648
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 5: was cold but not that bad. And this is going

649
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 5: to be the coldest game they played in all season.

650
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 5: And I think that like when you reach those type

651
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 5: of temperatures it reached, that's the point where it's like, okay,

652
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 5: now it's having an effect on the game. And what

653
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,479
Speaker 5: that effect is, I think we'll see. I don't think

654
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 5: defenders like to tackle Derreck Henry in that type of weather.

655
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 5: That's one one out.

656
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: The first thing that flashes into my head is the

657
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: clips from Dereck Henry versus the Steelers in the playoffs

658
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:21,959
Speaker 1: last year, where he's running through the defense and then

659
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: he gets the end zone and he's like, looks like

660
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: a charging bull with the steam coming out of his nose.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's what I want to see. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: big doll rampant.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought you're gonna keep going, yeah, the big

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Speaker 2: dog run. But no, I'm with you.

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Speaker 5: But I think that like that weather is going to

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Speaker 5: have an effect on this game, especially if it ends

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Speaker 5: up being as cold as everybodys saying it's going to be.

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Speaker 1: Yep, I agree.

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Speaker 2: So we're excited about this matchup. The Ravens need it.

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Speaker 2: This is as close to a must win game as

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Speaker 2: you can get.

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Speaker 5: The Ravens are looking at it with four games left

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Speaker 5: in the regular season and the playoffs have begun for

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Speaker 5: this team, they need to keep they need to win.

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Speaker 5: They control their own destiny. But as John Harbwald made

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Speaker 5: the point this week, yes we control our own destiny,

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Speaker 5: but that only matters if you win.

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Speaker 2: If you don't win, you don't control anything.

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Speaker 5: So the Ravens are focused on putting those wins together

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Speaker 5: starting Sunday at Cincinnati. As always, We love to hear

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Speaker 5: from you, so email us at the lounge at ravenst

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Speaker 5: NFL dot net. Thank you so much for watching and listening,

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Speaker 5: and we'll talk with you again after that game against

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Speaker 5: the Bengals