WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Cowboys-Seahawks Preview 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:05.240 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:16.640 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:20.479 screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:33.080 Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Bronis, Rob Phillips, 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:39.520 and Bill Jones to paraphrase, then Cincinnati Bengals head coach 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:43.400 Sam Weish you don't leave it live in Cleveland, and 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:45.680 thank god we don't live in Cleveland where it's six 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:49.120 hundred and thirty days in between wins. But it's victory 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:52.320 Friday in Cleveland. It's football Friday here at the Star 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:56.560 in Frisco, and welcome to Talking Cowboys. Y'all ready for 0:00:56.600 --> 0:01:01.520 another football weekend? Absolutely, let's it got started last night 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:06.400 in a Thursday night football in a big, big way. Yeah. 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:10.360 I listened to Cleveland Sports Talk Radio on my way 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:13.920 home from my CBS eleven gig last night, and the 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:17.720 talk show host on Cleveland Sports Talk Radio we're calling 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:21.800 that one of the greatest sports nights in Cleveland history. 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:29.600 Never mind any NBA. Yeah they yeah, that's right. Yeah, 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:32.479 But anyway, that's the way we kick off this football 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:36.280 week Yet you should have seen the scene outside the stadium, 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:38.479 because you know, you got a walk across that. There's 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:41.319 a big, huge walkway over the highway from the stadium 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:45.119 to downtown. There. You couldn't see anything but people. When 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:48.160 they did the overshot on the postgame, they were channing 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:51.880 Baker maybe they were all over the place. It was. 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:54.640 It was almost like they had won a championship. It was. 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:57.520 It was. I tweeted a gift last night of Bob 0:01:57.560 --> 0:02:00.720 Yucker in the Major League press box jumping them down, 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:03.080 just going nuts, because that's what it reminded me of. 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:06.120 It's like they finally did something, you know, the laughing stock. 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:08.560 Maybe it's turning around for him, Yeah, well he was. 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:11.440 It was strange because the post game show on NFL 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:14.960 Network they had Joe Thomas on there. Yeah, and how 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:17.000 much weight is he lost, by the way, all those 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:22.120 offensive lines radio and hair too, by the way. We 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:26.040 can't talk, No, we can't know. But he was coming 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:30.480 out of his skin. It was giddy. And the lady 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:32.680 who was the host was coming out of her skin. 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:35.440 I mean, it was it was. I thought it was 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:45.000 you know who they played this week in Oakland? In Oakland? Yeah, yes, okay, yeah, 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:47.720 and I'm Brian's looking on can they keep this up? 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:52.040 You know you think about in hey, very passionate football 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:54.320 fans in Cleveland, and yeah you should be happy for them, 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:58.240 but okay, can you can you sustain this? Night? One? 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:01.480 One and one? Now? And Pittsburgh off their feet? Should 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:03.640 have beat Pittsburgh and the opener and then the Saints 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:08.400 last week, and they finally watched Pittsburgh convinced that exactly 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:12.200 that Baker Mayfield's their starting quarterback. He gives them a 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:14.760 chance to win. That's all John Dorsey was looking for here, 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:18.600 John John talked, waited so long? Well, no, you would 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:20.600 have made up a reason why they should never played 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:24.560 him because he's a young guy, or no, absolutely not, 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:28.440 but oh we shall always play young quarterbacks. I didn't 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:31.040 say that they should have played him over what they 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:33.120 had if they were going to make him the first 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:35.480 two weeks in the season, three weeks in the season. Again, 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:38.440 him is Mickey sounds. I have to agree with him, 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:41.160 thank you. It is it. Should they played him in 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:44.120 week one? Should they have drafted him first? I wouldn't 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:47.760 have drafted him first. I would have Okay, here's the 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:53.200 of course, this this is the narrative that we've learned 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:56.080 over these years. Yes, yeah, when things kind of roll 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:58.040 the right way, let's see what happens in the next 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:00.360 couple of problem. I said it, when they draft Mickey, 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:04.480 you're not drafting a six foot quarterback first. He might 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:07.000 be six foot, but you're not drafting a six foot 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:09.160 call I will say this. I was saying I would 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:11.440 have drafted him, but I, of course in prejudice because 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:13.200 I'm an ou you did. You picked him when you 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:15.120 and I did the mock draft. You picked him first, 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:18.080 and I thought, actually I thought all along that Cleveland 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:20.960 would pick him number one overall once they reviewed everything 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:24.880 they were looking to change, and the only was the 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:27.680 comparisons to Manziel. In my opinion, Oh my god, he 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:30.640 is so Johnny it's not even funny. Well, he is 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:32.520 in the Tony in the in the on the broadcast, 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:35.599 and I can see that, but just the dynamic, that 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:38.840 kind of just the wild wildness to his game reminds 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:41.880 me of Johnny. Maybe it is he can make the throws, though, 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:44.200 I mean he is. I mean there's a lot of 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:47.480 Mike Evans and Johnny Manzill's college career, sure, you know, 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:51.279 but uh, you know, and then I take it back 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:55.520 and relate it to the Cowboys and what Mayfield brought 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:58.440 to that Cleveland team last night when he came in 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:00.320 the game, especially when you compare with what was going 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:02.760 on with Tyrod Taylor in the first half of that game. 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:06.440 There was a tempo and an energy. He used to 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:09.800 play in that way exactly right, And I think that 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:13.000 this Cowboys team needs to kind of play that way 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:16.560 a lot of times. I'm not saying that necessarily. I 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:18.480 think they would like to play that way as far 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:20.560 as being able to throw the football down the field 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:23.240 and stuff. Now he takes a lot more and he's 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:27.160 gonna have horrible games in it's May in Oakland. In 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:30.359 ten days from now, he's gonna have four picked games. 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:34.240 And he is unlike Dak Prescott in that regard because 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:37.160 his whole thing is taking care of the football and everything. 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:40.120 But I think when the Cowboys play with tempo, and 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:43.120 I'm talking on defense to the speed that the Cowboys 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:45.200 have on defense, and when you look at that Cleveland 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:48.200 team and what they've done in acquiring players, they've got 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:50.560 a young team that has a lot of speed on defense. Now, 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:53.080 I think that there's some comparisons there, and I think 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:55.200 that's the way that the Cowboys, and I think in 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:58.159 this league that's the way you need to play to 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:00.560 win now is getting as much speed as you can 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:04.799 on the field, And I don't know, you take control 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:07.520 of the football game that way. We've seen both both guys. 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:09.920 Everyboy's seen both guys. Now, who would you rather have 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:14.400 him or Mahomes? I would leave. I mean, if you're 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:17.279 talking about big twelve guys, I would lean towards Mahomes 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:22.280 just the size, bigger quarterbacks, less, less limitations. But I mean, 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:25.160 I've thought Baker I didn't see much of Donald R. 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:28.159 Kingsbury had the same decision to make about five or 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:30.360 six years ago. And that just shows you. That just 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:33.680 shows you that guys are supposedly no quarterbacks, don't no quarterbacks? 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:37.000 Well no, I mean, I mean he had yeah, he 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:40.720 did well, Cliff had Manzelf, Well, he had David's Webb. Yeah, 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:44.040 got rid of him as at the same time. Yeah, 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:46.840 and Mayfield was a walk on and he wound up 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:51.240 starting eventually in that true freshman season at Texas Rick 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:52.560 And that's why I was upset at the end of 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:54.560 the year when they didn't didn't give him a scholarship 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:57.359 why he transferred. But I don't think you can be 0:06:57.440 --> 0:07:00.880 critical of Kingsbury if your choice is Mahome. I mean, 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:04.800 when you look at the talent that Mahomes he has, uh, 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:08.760 the intangibles that Mayfield has, it's far he you know, 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:12.960 he's just he's a he's a guy. That leadership intangibles 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:15.680 is that he has as far as you know, he 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:18.239 brings to the table a lot, as far as getting 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:21.080 a team loaded up on his back and hey, we're 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:23.239 going to win this game. And if you had watched 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:26.880 the postgame show, you wouldn't compare him to Manzel. Why 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:29.560 because Manzel would have made it all about himself. And 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:32.240 I thought Baker did a nice job of making it 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:37.120 about the team multiple games for Cleveland, by the way, 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:42.880 and and he and he handled himself really well when 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:47.120 everybody else on the set was so giddy and beside themselves, 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:51.080 including Reggie Bush and Michael Irvin. Uh, he was the 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:53.360 calming factor on there. And I thought that was a 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:56.440 very mature thing. He's a smart guy too. I mean, 0:07:56.520 --> 0:08:00.040 he's he's had his incidents obviously off the field, you know, 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:04.480 college kid incidents and stuff like that that out of 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:08.440 the good ones have yeah yeah, yeah yeah, um, and 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:10.880 I need to keep him out of Arkansas, right, They'll 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:16.600 try to keep him out of Fayetville, Yeah, Vietnam. But anyway, 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:19.480 um yeah. And from a leadership standboy, you look at 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:23.080 this quarterback here and and um Dak plays with a 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:27.080 lot of confidence. And I think that it's uh something 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:30.600 that energizes a team. And you know when a great 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:33.360 example of us last November, when this team played as 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:36.240 had as horrible a three game stretch as the Cowboys 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:40.559 have ever had, uh, and he kept the faith, you know, 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:44.120 and I think that's why they were able to finish 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:46.760 somewhat strongly. You know. In turn, think you're onto something 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:49.520 though about playing with pace. Yeah, we've talked about it 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:51.640 here before. You know, if you do, and we call 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:54.200 it a college attack, or at least I do, if 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:57.480 you if you have you played to his strengths. I 0:08:57.520 --> 0:09:00.000 think that's what huge Hugh Jackson, the we're gonna learn 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:02.800 leveland you got to play to his strengths, whatever that is, 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:05.280 moving them around the pocket or letting him make throws 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:07.559 however you want to do it. But that's how you 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:09.720 get your quarterbacks going. That's how you get your offensive 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:12.600 go to go. You find a way to play to 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:15.200 these guys' strengths, and if it means having to play 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:17.800 it a little bit faster pace, trust him. He's going 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:20.160 to go make some plays for you this quarterback. And 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:22.720 if that's a you know, if that's the way you 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:26.240 have to win games, I'm all for that. Hey, remember 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:30.719 taking it to Seattle. Remember the preseason game where when 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:34.280 Romo got hurt and that became the starting quarterback. And 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:37.240 remember Zeke in that game, how he took it to 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:40.320 the legion of Boom. I mean, I think a great 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:44.520 collision with him and Cam Chance act and he he 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:46.760 was a leader in that respect the way, and that 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:51.600 was a meaningless preseason game, okay, but I think that 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:54.960 set the tone for that entire season, just the attitude 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:59.680 that Zeke had against that established veteran defense and Tho 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:01.800 took it to him, and that that's the attitude they 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:03.360 need to have when they go up there. It's a 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:07.320 totally different Seattle team than what they faced before, but 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:09.720 in that atmosphere that's gonna They're gonna be playing in 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:13.240 a home opener for the Seahawks on and it's a desperate, 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:15.720 you know, wounded tiger. That they got to have that 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:18.080 same attitude when they go up there on Sunday. Those 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:20.640 guys wanted to welcome the rookie to the NFL that exactly, 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:22.360 and he knew it was up to the challenge. He 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:25.320 knew it was coming. Yeah, he need He's one of 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:26.960 my keys to the game, Brian. I think they got 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:28.720 to get him going somehow to try to take the 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:31.760 crowd out of it. But you mentioned pace. I'm with 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:33.840 you there, and like with Mayfield that I don't watch 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:36.000 as much Oklahoma football as you do, but it seemed 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:38.360 like that reminded me of the Oklahoma offense when he 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:42.240 was in there. Defensively talked about speed. We talked to 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:45.080 Rod Marinelli yesterday. He said, this is the fastest defense 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:48.360 he's had in Dallas. Just the overall team speed on defense. 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:50.320 And I think that's he didn't go as far as 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:52.920 to say Chicago or Tampa Bay where he's been. Now 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:56.160 that was those were championship level defenses. But that side 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:59.000 of the ball too. There they are flying around and 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:00.560 that's another thing they're gonna have to be able to 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:03.840 do that. Team speed is critical to stopping Russell Wilson 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:06.040 on who asked a question to him about if he 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:10.280 was calling defenses. I don't remember. Get asked a couple 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:12.200 of different times. It was at early. It might it 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:15.719 might have been taught. Arch Gut asked late. Okay, yeah, 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:18.120 it was several times. Do you worry about Chris Rashard 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:23.560 doing too much in this game? Um? No, because I 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:26.400 think he's he's already done this the first couple you 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:28.520 talked about the speed and all that you know and things. 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:32.320 I mean, does he does he don't calling the game. 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:35.840 I don't know that he has carte blanche treatment. I 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:40.280 think that the way Rod was talking, it was almost 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:44.760 like suggested the head coach telling the offensive coordinator. Okay, look, 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:48.440 let's not I'm sorry I missed that. That was let's 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:51.720 dive into that. Were you there when this was discussed Marinelli, 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:54.800 both of us, Okay, so that's a good job of 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:57.560 being there though. Yeah, that's right. And because that was 0:11:57.600 --> 0:11:59.760 the story that came out of yesterday, I mean, if 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:05.840 you were watching the TV tape, especially the TV copy 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:10.760 on Sunday night, it was obvious that Richard was heavily involved. 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:13.280 If you were not, they didn't see the sideline shots. 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:16.280 It was obvious that Richard was heavily involved just seeing 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:18.840 what they were doing defensively. Yeah, the amount of blitzing 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:21.640 they you know, and the other thing. And I was 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:23.600 talking with Rod when we walked off. You know, it's 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:26.360 one thing to blitz, it's another thing to get there. 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:30.240 This team has blitzed previously and they don't get there. 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:33.200 They didn't have guys that knew how to dry. These 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:35.880 linebackers are better at it. The guys coming off the 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:39.240 edge are better than it. Because before I remember seeing 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:41.319 them blitz and they'd get picked up and they did 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:46.000 sit there and do the little bear dances. And now 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:49.840 they're actually getting there and and the scheme is getting 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:52.559 there also, So it looks like they're blitzing more when 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:56.120 you're having success. But yeah, I thought Rod was really 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:58.400 good when he explained it. He goes, Hey, the thing 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:01.600 about what goes on around here as team, and we're 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:04.559 a team, and I don't need all the all the praise, 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:07.360 all the glory. It's like, if he's doing it and 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:09.520 he's got the hot hand, he's gonna go. But he 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:12.520 also said that, you know, I'll be in his ear, 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:15.960 and it's like, don't forget this or think about that, 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:19.120 and and I thought it was a you know, it 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:22.360 sounds like it's they've got a good coordination going. Now 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:25.560 can I ask another question? Yeah, would it be to 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:29.120 their advantage to have him call primarily call the defenses 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:31.679 in this game? Well, that's what I was no one. 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:36.439 And now the problem is, Brian Schottenheimer is not Darryl Bevila, 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:38.560 so you know he has so he I don't know 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:42.000 if he has a lot of relationship with Brian Schottenheimer, 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:44.559 but if he, if it was Darryl bevil standing over 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:46.720 on the other sidelines, I think he could probably understand 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:50.200 how Darryl might call a game. Yeah, and just his knowledge, 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:53.600 he's been around Russell Wilson for six seven years now. 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:57.079 Russell Wilson hasn't caught on with this offense yet. That's 0:13:57.080 --> 0:13:58.640 been a big problem. You know. I think that the 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:02.520 benefit of of his knowledge of the Seahawks is he 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:05.920 knows the first personnel that intimately, it's not like you 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:08.880 got to watch it on tape, right. I know what 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:11.440 this guy can do. I know what this guy's good point, 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:13.600 this is our good point, and he'll be able to 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:17.280 I think exploit that a little bit and probably help 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:19.280 both sides of the ball. You know, somebody asked Dak 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:22.360 how much does he helped you? And it was like, well, 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:24.720 you know, he'll he'll say a few things, but he goes. 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.680 You know, we watch tape and we see what you 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:30.720 gotta see. But well, he's been a lot of time, 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:33.240 really good. I took him through every single play that 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:35.280 they've played him in the last few years. In fact, 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:41.200 it was like Sean mcvaylike, wasn't it. Yes, recall, apparently 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:43.920 we have we have someone else. We have discovered that 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:47.280 Chris Richard, who can remember every play of every single 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:50.160 game he's been involved with in his life. Well, it's 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:52.960 as coordinators, you always know what works and what doesn't work. 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:54.840 You remember, like you say, you try and forget the 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:57.760 ones that didn't. But in a game like this, yeah, 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:00.320 if I'm Scott Linahan, I'm I'm taking him to dinner 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:02.960 and I'm saying, listen, okay, I've got these thoughts. Tell 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:04.800 me if this is gonna work. If I was cording, 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:07.920 if you, if I was battling you with this, work 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:09.840 against what you think that they're going to try and do. 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:12.320 And he because he knows Ken Norton. I mean he's 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:15.080 worked with Ken Norton before, so Ken Norton, that is 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:18.320 that is a familiarity he does have, right, So you 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:21.120 know that's something that's worthwhile to keep an eye on. 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:26.360 But now does Pete Carroll know him? Right? If now 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:29.880 it's revealed that Chris Roshard is the one calling the defenses, 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:32.440 calling the shots, now, oh we know exactly what he 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:34.440 wants to do. Yeah, but like right, they have an 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:36.800 offensive line they can handle it. Yeah, that's gonna be 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:40.360 The Seahawks are absolutely terrible. There's these are two teams 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:42.520 that are terrible on third down playing against each other, 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:44.760 by the way, I think Dallas is at twenty three 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:48.880 percent or so in Seattle's at twenty eight. So we 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:51.920 always it's very clicheic to say it's gonna come down 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:54.440 to plow you play on third down, But what defense 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:56.560 can force the other one to get off the field. 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:59.440 Russell Wilson's been terrible and third down. I think he's 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:02.280 only six or seven to seventeen throwing the ball, and 0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:05.320 he's like two of six on third downs with like 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:08.760 distance of three yards, three to seven yards. So you know, 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:11.080 how do you get him in third down situations, if 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:13.120 they're having as much problems as they're having a lot 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:15.040 of the blitz as we've seen from the Cowboys have 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:17.040 come on third down and they've been successful. That's one 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:18.680 reason they've been able to get off the field. So 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:20.120 that they do more of that in this game. It 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:22.960 might just depend on the matchups we'll see, But I 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:26.160 do like, uh, you know the other thing about that, right, 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:29.440 Mickey Dallas is twenty three percent, Yeah, and they're twenty 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:31.920 eight percent. I think that's I just want to make 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:33.320 sure I was right. Yeah, I want to make sure 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:36.440 I was right. I knew you were gonna look me up. No, No, 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:38.800 I knew you. I knew you were gonna do it. 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:45.600 So I appreciate that that's teamwork, right there, Teams anything, accy. 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:50.960 I'm trying to be accurate here, you know. But on 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:55.600 the subject though, of defensive coordinator, pass game coordinator, game plan, 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:58.440 so forth, there's so much more that goes into it 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:02.000 during a given week than then who's calling the shots 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:06.560 on players too. Yeah, that's exactly right. And I think 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:10.160 that a lot of a lot of fans who are 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:14.040 casual fans out there don't understand that the responsibilities even 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:18.359 that position coaches have on a staff, the important responsibilities 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:21.080 that they have and that they are given, they are 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:24.720 expected to do a lot and so I think, you know, 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:27.520 people will make a lot about okay, who who the 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:30.320 play caller is, but there's so much more that goes 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:32.600 into it than that. Well, and it's all a lot 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:35.400 of that's pre planned, right, Yeah, there's a reason why 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:38.000 they carry that sheet with them that that's that's not 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:41.160 a sheet of one hundred and fifty plays and it's like, okay, 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:43.480 let me pick this one. You know, they've got their 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:46.359 tendencies and what they want to do on situations, and 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:49.840 here's the choice of plays that we think will work 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:52.920 in this situation, and so that it's all planned out 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:55.399 ahead of time. And Matt Eberflus did some of this 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:58.879 for Rod in recent years too, but Rod acknowledge this 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:01.800 is more on Shard's plate than maybe Matt had in 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:04.160 the past. And I think a lot of it too 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:06.640 has to come back to just overall. They have such 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:09.880 a similar philosophy on how they believe in defense should 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:12.280 be played, and it goes back to just their own 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:16.080 coaching trees essentially. You know, Richard kind of came from 0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:17.760 the same style as Rod. So I think there's just 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:20.840 a comfort level there with Rod. Pete Carroll was with 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:23.439 Marinelli and Monty Kiff and that's where he learned there. 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:25.560 It is all the way back to Pacific when they 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:28.119 were Yeah, so it's a long way. I mean, the 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:32.840 branches are intertwined in a lot of different ways. Yeah, Okay, 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:36.280 we will continue here on Talking Cowboys. There's a Terrence 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:39.679 Williams report out there as well, and of course we 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:43.400 brought that possibility up earlier in the week, and we'll 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:45.680 take your phone calls eight eight eight eight five five 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:48.960 two two nine seven when Talking Cowboys continues. 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