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Speaker 1: Ashley I Almost Famous podcast with i R Radio. We're

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Speaker 1: getting in the Paradise season. I am doing this podcast

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Speaker 1: from outside because I watch Paradise and I'm sick of

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Speaker 1: what I hand? I'm wearing something tropical too. It kind

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Speaker 1: of feels nice, doesn't it. Yeah, we came. Um. Actually,

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Speaker 1: story time? Okay? It allowed me to chew my pizza.

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Speaker 1: Well perfect, Okay, So here's what's happened. Um, I've been

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Speaker 1: the first episode of Paradise. Ashley. We said it before

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Speaker 1: like I've been waiting so long to kiss you, right,

427
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 1: but like they've only known each other for twenty four hours.

428
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,040
Speaker 1: By that, How cool is that? I mean, that's a

429
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 1: great Are they so produce? Jamy has this question, are

430
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 1: they the new Joe and Kindle? Do you think? Um?

431
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: I wouldn't think to connect them immediately because I think

432
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 1: Joe was like, so everybody thought Joe was super hot,

433
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 1: and everybody liked Kendall too. But like, I think this

434
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,679
Speaker 1: is more like a Jade and Tanner situation where she

435
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 1: was like the sexy one coming off of her season,

436
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 1: and Tanner was kind of the guy that nobody really remembered.

437
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: He just kind of flew by the seat of his

438
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 1: pants the entire season, and the Bachelorette never really gave

439
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: him much attention. Good point. Well, another person that another

440
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 1: woman I want to highlight um that I think just

441
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: struck me during this episode is how beautiful Katie is.

442
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:50,920
Speaker 1: I remember her being beautiful, but her eyes are like,

443
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 1: like even through the television screen, you're just like, holy cow,

444
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 1: they're so insane. She's so pretty insane. Okay, So we

445
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 1: also we have Hannah Gee, we have Katie, we have

446
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 1: Sydney Tasia uh Demi on Ka. We also have Jane Annalis,

447
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: Bibiana Bibiana one of our favorites, Nicole and Kalin Ashley.

448
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 1: Is this the year that Bibiana finds love on television?

449
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 1: I mean, it's she's so do for it. Speaking of

450
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 1: four timers, Bibby is actually a four timer, having done

451
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 1: Ari season, Winter Games and now two consecutive seasons of

452
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise. She has to I have no idea

453
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 1: why this woman keeps having bad luck on these shows,

454
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: because she's so stunning, and she has an amazing personality

455
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 1: and it's obviously got a brain too. I really like

456
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: Bibiana for so many reasons. When when jess and I

457
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 1: met Bibiana, Bibiana is one of those people that kind

458
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: of like, you know, Jessica came and uh is with me,

459
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:56,199
Speaker 1: uh during this time in Mexico, and she's nervous like

460
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,439
Speaker 1: she is, she's not she's never done this thing before,

461
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: and uh, there's you a lot of things swirling around her.

462
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: And it took a few people, yourself included, to really

463
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 1: wrap jess up in their arms and say, hey, welcome

464
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 1: to the family. And for me, like it almost back then,

465
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: not anymore, but like brought me to tears because like

466
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,239
Speaker 1: it just means a lot for me to see, like,

467
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: my friends from this show be so kind to like

468
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: to Jessica, but Bibiana like stood out because Bibiana invested

469
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 1: into Jessica, is like a friend. And that's what I

470
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: think Bibiana does best, and what we love about her

471
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: is every time she's on the show, she goes out

472
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 1: of her way to to be a friend to somebody

473
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: when maybe other people aren't. Yeah, totally. She was the

474
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 1: first person um on Bachelor and parent on Winter Games.

475
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: So on one of the games, I didn't really have

476
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: any girlfriends going into it, and she and I immediately

477
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 1: hit it off, and she was so conversational and friendly

478
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: and warm, and I was just like, Okay, great, she's

479
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 1: my crutch the entire time. She's gonna be like my

480
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: best girlfriend. I don't know if you remember this, but

481
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 1: maybe this is why I have such a heart for

482
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: bibianas um during Winter Games, you know, it's a weird

483
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: time for me. I wasn't ready so much. She was

484
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: such a support for Ben. She was and she sat

485
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: me on a couch one night and I don't even

486
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 1: I don't think they showed it or anything. I don't

487
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 1: even know if the camera's in the house and she

488
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: just sat me down and she says, it's been like

489
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: somebody needs to speak truth into you, and I'm gonna

490
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 1: be that person. And I bet for an hour she

491
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: just poured into me with like the most encouraging not

492
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 1: just like fluff words like truth, words like Ben, this

493
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: is who you are, This is why I see you as,

494
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: this is what I know you are and I want

495
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 1: you to know this and and that doesn't happen a

496
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: lot in life, and Bibiana did that for me, and

497
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: it I will never I don't. I think I will

498
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: die one day remembering that moment because of how encouraging

499
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: it was. In a moment where I was like, I

500
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 1: don't know what's happening here. This is a lot for me.

501
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 1: She just said, Ben, this is who you are. So

502
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: I love Bibiana. I hope she finds love. I really do.

503
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 1: But we don't get anything of her with another guy

504
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 1: uh on this first episode. We do know that she

505
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: loves Blake. She's super after Blake. I am, I'm I

506
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't get this. I don't understand.

507
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: Why are they all obsessed with Blake. Well, I think

508
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: a little bit of it is um kind of his

509
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: stint on with Becca. You know, he's a guy. He

510
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 1: made it pretty far and he's kind of the mystery guy. Um,

511
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: but if we take Blake out of the equation for

512
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: right now, actually, out of this group of of really

513
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: great people, who do you want to see connect? Well?

514
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: I I think I'm most excited to see what develops

515
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: between Hannah and Dylan. Like that was the scene that

516
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: excited me the most. I thought it was just so

517
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: freaking adorable. And you're right, he didn't say the right things,

518
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 1: like he didn't by definition, but I think they were

519
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: the right things because they were just so honest. It

520
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: was beautiful. Kay, So we got hand in Dylan. Um,

521
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: who what about Derek? Derek's always Derek's a guy that

522
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: you know, has been around for a while. One of

523
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: my best friends in the franchise Wells loves Derek. I

524
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: don't know Derek well, Um, I don't know if you

525
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 1: know Derek Herro. Where do you want to see Derek

526
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: go with this? Well? I mean right now we're seeing

527
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: him with Demi. I don't know that Demi is his

528
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: match though, knowing both of them separately, I wouldn't put

529
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: the two to them together. No, but but they're connecting. Another.

530
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: Another one here on the guy side is Will's. Wills

531
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: was obviously a heart throb coming off of Becca season. Um,

532
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: he comes on the Paradise, he has eyes for Hannah.

533
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: But outside of Hannah, who else would you like to

534
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: see Will's connect with? M Hmmm. I remember that Will's

535
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: had that huge crush on Katie, Remember, and we had

536
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: him in our podcast a couple of months ago. He

537
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: was like, if I were to go in Parados, I

538
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: would a really big crushing on Katie or he like

539
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: alluded to that. So I'm going to root for those

540
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: two because could you imagine the eyes that came out

541
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: of there the children? Oh my goodness, stunning. All right? Um,

542
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: final one that I really am interested on the guy

543
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: side is Clay Plays. Obviously, we we know his backstory. Um,

544
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: it was highlighted by Analyze a little bit during this

545
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: first episode. I feel like, you know, Analyze is a

546
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: good friend of the podcast. I want to bring her

547
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: on and talk to her about this. I feel like

548
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: she is stepping into a territory she doesn't necessarily need

549
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: to be, because, just like we talked about with the

550
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: Peter situation, Clay is broken up with Angela. That's been

551
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: very public. That's very clear. He has all right to

552
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: be here in Paradise. I mean, you know, how soon

553
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: is too soon to move on? You know we there

554
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: hasn't been a great number we've figured out yet, So

555
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: Analyze is starting to like ask these questions. I don't

556
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: think it's in her best interests. I think we'll come

557
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: back to bite her, um, just knowing how this is

558
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: set up. But outside of anything stepping in between, who

559
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: do you want to see Clay with? Well, I think

560
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: that annalyes the analyies bring. I think the Annaly is

561
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: bringing up Angela is foreshadowing Angela's appearance in Paradise. How

562
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: could it not? Like, why would they even have that

563
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: in there if we weren't going to see some Angela action?

564
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's going to really bite Analyze

565
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: in the butt. Uh, but I haven't seen and um,

566
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: you know, Analyze is somebody we would we would like

567
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: to see find love in this because she's also thought

568
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: of as a pretty sympathetic character because she always just

569
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: leaves these shows very sad. But I don't see her

570
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: clicking with anyone right now. And I don't know who

571
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: do you see clicking with with um Analyze. If anyone,

572
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: I would actually say maybe Clay because he came across

573
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: pretty mushy on Becca season. So maybe he's the mushball

574
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: that will complete her. Yeah, you know, here's my here's

575
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: my theory. And I have friends like this. It's not

576
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: it's it's week one or a few days in and

577
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: you're already showing kind of this like protective wall build up,

578
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: and this is like mushy, like I need to be

579
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: a support of my friends that aren't even here. And

580
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: I get it right there, she's in it and she's

581
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: But if Analyze is here to find a partner, I

582
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: don't think, well, let's say this in in general, if

583
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: anybody's here to find a partner, I don't think going

584
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: after somebody that you're not pursuing at any level is

585
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: the right move right away, because I think it is.

586
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: It's just kind of a bad look. Like, okay, so

587
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: she's gonna make enemies there you're saying, I just don't think.

588
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: I don't think Analyze is a type of person that

589
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: makes enemies because she's likable. I think she's not going

590
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: to make relationships because of this, Like I don't think

591
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: anyboy's gonna dislike Analy's. I just don't think anyody's gonna

592
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: like fall for Analyes. She is concentrating on other relationships already,

593
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: and not her own exactly. Okay, so she's concerted on

594
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: Clay's relationship. Who would you like to see Clay with? Well,

595
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: Clay showed interest in Nicole, So I'm all about people

596
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: who like had the intention of going going after someone

597
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: end up with that person. So I'm gonna say Clay

598
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: and Nicole would be cute together. They are both emotional

599
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: human beings. I love that idea. Okay. On on the

600
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: women's side, we have Hannah, ge and Dylan. We're really

601
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: excited about that. One person we haven't talked about yet

602
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: that we we also appreciate and and love is Tasha.

603
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: Tassia has been on the podcast before. She's beautiful. Uh.

604
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: We enjoy Tasha. I know that she's excited about finding

605
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: a partner. She seems to be a great catch. Who

606
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: here and the guy side, so far, are you going

607
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: that's that's a Tassia match? I don't know, Ben, because

608
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: I'm looking at these guys and I don't really know

609
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: them that well. I feel like I know the girls,

610
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: but I don't really know the guys, so it's hard

611
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: for me to pair people up. But the women here

612
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: are just like they're killing it, Like what a cast

613
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: of women, and I just don't know these guys very much.

614
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: And then finally you got to spend some time with

615
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: kalin Um, who in the klin realm. I mean, she

616
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: seems to be really focused on Blake right now. I

617
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: get why I'm not. I'm not saying she shouldn't be,

618
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: but if she's so focused on Blake that any other

619
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: relationship just isn't going to enter into her life right now. Uh.

620
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: I think she's just focused on Blake because she wants

621
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: to take him down, which I applaud her for. And

622
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, so if she doesn't like anybody else there

623
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: right now, just like, focus all your energy on bringing

624
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: Blake down with his you know, the player must be

625
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: brought down. It's absolutely ridiculous what he did, like so ridiculous,

626
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: and the fact that he was thought that he could

627
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: get away with this, I'm like, how ignorant are you

628
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: to this bachelor community. We all talk, we all talk,

629
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: and we all run into each other. There's no way

630
00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: you can't avoid one another in this Obviously, the Blake

631
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: conversation is going to be one we we kind of

632
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: harp on and talk about. Really, I bet for the

633
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: rest of the podcast it is going to kind of

634
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: be intermingled. But before we did, we gotta take a

635
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: break and talk about one of our sponsors. Hey, guys,

636
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,200
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637
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Speaker 1: but I'm sorry. I can't talk enough about the great

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Speaker 1: items we've gotten from our Creighton Barrel registry. We recently

639
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Speaker 1: got a kitchen a mixer. It comes in this exclusive color.

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Speaker 1: It's super nice. It's a shaded palm and steel blue mixer.

641
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Speaker 1: And I've never really used a professional, you know, fancy

642
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Speaker 1: mixer before, But now that I'm an adult in a

643
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: committed relationship living together, I'm getting fancy household products for

644
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: hosting and such. And I also like to treat Jared

645
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: to some of his favorite desserts. This man is a

646
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: dessert man. I am more of a like a foodie.

647
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: I like dinner, he likes dessert. So I've been making

648
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: some cookies for him. Bocolate chip is our mutual favorite.

649
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 1: He loves any sort of baked good and I've been

650
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 1: making it on our new Kitchen Aid mixer. This one

651
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: specifically is exclusive to Crate and Barrel because it comes

652
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: in that shaded palm and steel blue color. It looks

653
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: so good in our kitchen. It's a standout. It's the

654
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: kind of thing that you want to keep out on

655
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Speaker 1: the counter because it looks like you know what you're

656
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Speaker 1: doing in the kitchen, you know what I mean, and

657
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Speaker 1: it looks like you're an adult. Anyway. The Kitchen Aid

658
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Speaker 1: mixer is just one of the items that has been

659
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Speaker 1: coming in from their Crate and Barrel registry and it's

660
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Speaker 1: just been really classifying the house because all of these

661
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Speaker 1: crate and barrel items are timeless, they are classic, and

662
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Speaker 1: they're never going to go out of style. You can

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Speaker 1: start your cretan barrel registry now at Crate and Barrel

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Speaker 1: dot com slash Wedding Dash Registry. Again, if you are

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Speaker 1: engaged and you're looking for some timeless, classic pieces, you

666
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Speaker 1: definitely need to do a create and barrel registry and

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Speaker 1: you can start that now at Crate and Barrel dot

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Speaker 1: Com slash Wedding Dash Registry. One of my closest friends

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00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,439
Speaker 1: with Franchise Wells. We see back in Paradise. I don't

670
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: know how many seasons, what four seasons he's been the bartender?

671
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: This is only this is the third, this is Do

672
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: you think his role as the bartender is gonna like

673
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: expand the sea We didn't see a lot of them

674
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: last year. We saw a ton of him on the

675
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: first time he did it. Just from previews, I feel

676
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: like Wells is going to be more kind of front

677
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: and center. Yeah. I think he was a little bit

678
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: upset that last year. He it was like why was

679
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: he even there? You know? So I think they're gonna

680
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: definitely expand his role this year. Now, you know, as

681
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: well as the bartender, what when you're there, what are

682
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: you leaning on him for? Is it is he just

683
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: kind of like safe place to just spew whatever, or

684
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: is he bringing people over to talk to him? No,

685
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 1: Like for my seasons, we definitely did lean on Jorge. Yeah,

686
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: he was like so areas. He was also like super

687
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: positive too, and he was just kind of you can

688
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: tell that Jorge was like excited that he wasn't actually

689
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: part of the cast, and I'm sure that Wells is

690
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: also very happy he's not part of the cast. But

691
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 1: they definitely are there because you need a neutral point

692
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: of view, Like you need somebody who's not a cast

693
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: member to talk to, and you need somebody who is

694
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: not a producer to talk to. And the only person

695
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: there for you to lean on in that case is

696
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: the bartender, and they're going to give you advice that

697
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,919
Speaker 1: you don't think is swayed in one direction or the other.

698
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: Like with the cast, sometimes they have their own motives

699
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: in mind, and the producers of course have theirs. So

700
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: it's really important to have the bartender. They're just vent

701
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: to And as we see this, I do believe that

702
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: this season Wells will have an integral role in a

703
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 1: lot of these relationships. I get it. If I was there,

704
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: I would want to lean on him as a kind

705
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: of a non biased source. So Wells is back. I'm

706
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: pumped about it. I love that Wells is there. Um,

707
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: it's enjoyable. Okay, the moment everybody's been waiting for this

708
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: whole episode can kind of be summed up in oh

709
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: my gosh, Blake, like what is going to happen here?

710
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: As a friend of his? This is hard to watch,

711
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: but it's like indefensible too. There's a lot of this

712
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 1: that's indefensible. I don't understand um and and all of

713
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: this would be said to his face. I don't get

714
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 1: how you think you're ever gonna get around. I mean,

715
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: I don't know that. Maybe this is too personal, Ashley,

716
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: But when it comes to the Bachelor franchise, like I

717
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: stayed far away from dating anybody else, like after Mice time,

718
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: Like once my time on the Bachelor was done, I

719
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: had to stay away because of this, Like this was

720
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: a concern everybody talks. Everybody's gonna find out, like I

721
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: know way too much about who's hooked up with who

722
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, then I ever want to know. It's

723
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: a good looking community. Everybody is going to be attracted

724
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 1: to multiple people in it, and everybody has like similar

725
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: ish personalities where we all tend to get along really well.

726
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: So we find ourselves in these groups a lot. And yeah,

727
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: you can't escape it, and you're not going to be

728
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: able to keep secrets within it. I can't believe he

729
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: called calein and said, we need to make sure that

730
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: this never comes out in Paradise. It's such an interesting

731
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 1: thing for him to think that it's actually gonna happen.

732
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: It's not gonna happen, but let's compare this to real life,

733
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 1: a bunch of good looking people who travel and hang

734
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: out together, who go to amazing places together, who drink together. Um,

735
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,720
Speaker 1: is it crazy to think that multiple like you wouldn't

736
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: hook up with multiple people within the franchise. No, I

737
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: could see doing that, I suppose, but like, definitely not

738
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: if you're going to go on paradise and definitely not

739
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: in the same weekend like a stage coach. And it

740
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: would different if it was like seemed less fluzzy. It

741
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: seems like if he was like, I'm dating so and so,

742
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 1: I am committed to so and so, and then they

743
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: ended up breaking up, and then a couple of months

744
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: later he did it someone else and it was like,

745
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: I'm committed to so and so. That would be one thing.

746
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 1: But he was talking, he was he was He dated Christina,

747
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: you know casually. I think, Um, he dated Klin. He

748
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: slept with both of them in one weekend. He was

749
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 1: d m ng Tasia in bed with Klin. I hear

750
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: that there may be somebody else in the incoming cast

751
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: that he also hooked up with. And then I didn't

752
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 1: know that. Oh yeah, you didn't know that. No, No, no, really,

753
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: I don't think I did if, I'm sure I'll find

754
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: out soon. And then I think there was somebody else

755
00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: that Caitlyn mentioned he had interaction with. Well, okay, So

756
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: I feel like every year we've seen an evolution in paradise.

757
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: I remember after my season on the Bachelor, I was

758
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,479
Speaker 1: very protective of these women coming coming off the show.

759
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: I think you could probably remember that time they're all

760
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: getting ready to go on Paradise. I was super protective

761
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 1: of them. And what happened was I remember some guys

762
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: from Caitlin's season d m NG a lot of these

763
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 1: girls multiple Like one guy was dm NG like five

764
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: girls at one time. They were all talking. I knew

765
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: about it because I was still kind of involved in

766
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: that world with the girls at that time, and I

767
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: was like, we are We talked about it. We mentioned

768
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: on the podcast. Back then we didn't say his name,

769
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: and we thought that was crazy, How could you do that?

770
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: What a player? What you know? What a scum? But

771
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: now it's like been enhanced to actually become physical now,

772
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: So I don't know if those two things are comparable

773
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: at all, but it's wild to see kind of the

774
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 1: evolution where back then we've d ming was crazy. Now

775
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: we're talking about like cooking up, like legitimate hooking up.

776
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: That was like back in My Paradise season too, Samantha

777
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: and Joe we're just dming or texting, and it was

778
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: the biggest controversy of all time. That's a that is

779
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: such a good parallel is them texting before Paradise was

780
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: like a storyline that lasted week? Oh my god, everybody

781
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: was enraged. Is that a wild to kind of compare

782
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 1: that to now? I mean, I am I like missing something,

783
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: But listeners, we want to hear your advice. Emails have

784
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: been an Ashley, iHeart media dot com or or please

785
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: tweet us in hashtag almost same as podcast. We literally

786
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: watched your videos and um saw the tags all week.

787
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: Did you know that they had to get the um

788
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: the title stage coach past, you know, like a copyright

789
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: or whatever it is. They had to make sure that

790
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: they could get the legal right to say stage coach

791
00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: on the show because it came up in so many conversations. Holy,

792
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: my best stage coach is Jack Tay Ashley. On this note,

793
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: let's pause for a second and talk about one of

794
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: our sponsors. Okay, so we're getting back into this, this

795
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: whole Scenaire with Blake. It's it's getting messy, it's getting wild.

796
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: Of course, um, we've we've already mentioned that the evolution

797
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 1: of kind of intimacy on the show has been heightened.

798
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: It used to be text messages were, um, super problematic.

799
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: Now there's actually physical interactions that we're gonna be speaking up.

800
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: I don't know what's next. I don't know where you

801
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,439
Speaker 1: go from here. But of course Blake gets the first

802
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: date card. Everybody, I mean everybody actually is preticting that

803
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: he's gonna take any I'm thinking he's gonna take Nagy

804
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: and I know this situation. He asked Tasha on a date,

805
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: are you surprised? I think everybody was surprised. But remember what, Okay,

806
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: so before I made a mistake and I said that

807
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: when he was in bed with Caitlin he was d

808
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: m ng Tasia, he was actually d m ng Hannah Gee,

809
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: I think. And he was talking about how hot Tassia was,

810
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: so obviously he was interested in Tasia. He thought he

811
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: was she was hot. So maybe he was like, I've

812
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: gotten to know Hannah gy enough and I just need

813
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 1: I would like to get to know Tasia more. Or

814
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 1: maybe he was like cleaner pure with Tasia, and he

815
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: had talked to Hannah Gy in the past, and he

816
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 1: was trying to avoid all the girls that he had

817
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: any interaction with before Paradise. Well, yeah, I'm just surprised,

818
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: Ashley that if he was, I guess I'm not fully

819
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 1: understanding the relationship with any of these women. So what

820
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: we know now is that that Kylin is saying that

821
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: Blake has hooked up with Kylin has hooked up with Christina,

822
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 1: and that he's messaging Hannah Gee and Tastia's somebody he's

823
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: interested in, and I am I wrong yea yeah, but

824
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: like of everybody, it seems like Tasha is the purest one,

825
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: the one that he's never interacted with outside of Paradise,

826
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: so he makes such choice to take Tassia on the

827
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: first day, Tassian Blake are having some sexy time. Did

828
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: they talk at stagecoach? Do they flirt at stagecoach? I

829
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: don't know. All this stagecoach stuff is boggling. No, no, no, yeah.

830
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: So that's why I got a little confused that the

831
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: story is this that he was kind of flirting with Tasha,

832
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: and then I think there was a comment made like

833
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: but at the end of night he was with me

834
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: or something like that. Yeah, goodness, So maybe he was

835
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: still hanging onto that flirtatious interaction that he had with Tassha.

836
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,240
Speaker 1: So here's where things get problematic. Calin sits down with Wells.

837
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: We watched it on the episode. She tells Wells her

838
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: other story is that Kaylin and Blake had a relationship.

839
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: Blake ended things with her. Um it got weird at

840
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: a music festival stage coach, I guess I can say it,

841
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: because I mean, at this point it's been said a

842
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: thousand times on the show. Um. And then he called her,

843
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: and this is where things get really hard for me

844
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: to understand. He calls her and says, hey, Klin, Uh,

845
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: this relationship, like this hook up or whatever it was like,

846
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: was it in our best interest? In her words, it

847
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: was a mistake. Can we keep it a secret so

848
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: we can both enjoy paradise. I think that's where he

849
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: was coming from, was like, can we both enjoy paradise

850
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: and keep this a secret? Ashley, I want to hear

851
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: your opinion on how this all plays out and where

852
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 1: Blake went wrong? Uh? Where did Blake go wrong? Blake

853
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: pretty much went wrong when he intended to hook up

854
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 1: with anyone outside Christina. I think if he had dated

855
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 1: Christina in the real world and then like she came

856
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: into Paradise, that would be one thing. It's like, that's

857
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: kind of like Clay and Angela. But when you started

858
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: hooking up and and like not in a committed sort

859
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: of way with multiple women, that's where he started to

860
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: That's when he really went wrong. What was the first

861
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:05,439
Speaker 1: part of that question? So he messages Klin, Oh, yeah,

862
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: Why did he just drop it? Why did he say, like,

863
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 1: I think this relationship is a mistake. I think he

864
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: realized it was a mistake when he slept with both

865
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: girls in one weekend and he was like, this is

866
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: gonna look really bad in Paradise. Somebody must have warned him, Ben,

867
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 1: wasn't you? Honestly it was not me. What I'll tell

868
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 1: you what advice I gave Blake is because I had

869
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: been with him and Christina, Like I I knew they

870
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: were hanging out. That wasn't really a secret. I don't

871
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 1: think anybody. I don't know a lot about the ins

872
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: and outs of what he did. Personally. I think my

873
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: advice to him was, you know, make sure that you've

874
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: maybe it was me because I said, make sure you've

875
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: talked to all these girls before you go on paradise,

876
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: and he said he had, And I think in his mind,

877
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's to his defense or not.

878
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: I think he thought that, like that conversation with Klin

879
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: maybe not worded correctly or word appropriately, and maybe we

880
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: should get his syke because we don't know and maybe

881
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: we'll hear it. I think he thought that was like

882
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 1: a breakup, and I thought I think he thought that

883
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 1: was like a fair breakup for them to say, hey,

884
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: this isn't going anywhere. Can we both go to paradise

885
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 1: and see what's see what happens, and for you, is

886
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: that a breakup? Like in the words that she's saying

887
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: the Wells, does it feel like you would take that

888
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: as as a woman or just as a person as

889
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: a breakup. I think I would take it as a breakup.

890
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: But I don't think that's her point here. I think

891
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: her point is that like she wants to protect these

892
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: other because she's not trying to get back with him,

893
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: she doesn't want to be with him at all. She's

894
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: just trying to protect these other women from these fantasy

895
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: thoughts that they have about him that she believes is

896
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: completely not true. I mean, so she's mad, Like we

897
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: see that there is no doubt that that Klin is

898
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: mad at Blake, like there is. She came to Paradise.

899
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: Am I wrong in this? She came to Paradise on

900
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 1: a mission. She came to Paradise on a mission. Yeah,

901
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 1: she came to Paradise on a mission to let everybody

902
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: know that Blake is not the guy they think that

903
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: they think he is. So here's my critique of the situation.

904
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: We don't know a lot about it yet. I I

905
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: don't love this. I don't love and and listeners, you're

906
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: going to disagree with me, and I want you to

907
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: I want you to help me understand this. Actually, I

908
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,919
Speaker 1: want you to help me understand this. I don't love

909
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 1: that anybody brings like, wait until Paradise to have conflict.

910
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 1: You don't like it when people wait till Paradise to

911
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: have conflict. Yeah, Like, I I don't look like I

912
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 1: would like to think that if you had an issue

913
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 1: with a guy in the real world and he was

914
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: doing whatever a player, and he was you know, mistreating

915
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,240
Speaker 1: people or whatever whatever is happening here, that you would

916
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: not wait until you're on national television two then go

917
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: at him. But sometimes I'm wrong. I want you to

918
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: tell me I'm wrong. Sometimes it's fun and sometimes you

919
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 1: want to call them out on the big stage, especially

920
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 1: when you're seeing other women go after him. It's not

921
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: as if in real life she was watching other girls

922
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: and knowing other girls that he was dating. Now she's

923
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: friends with these girls and now she's watching them try

924
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: to pursue this guy. That's just really not that great opinion,

925
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: I guess. Actually my only thought is I don't know

926
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: when you ever have a conflict like this that is

927
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: like a definitely like a big conflict, like this is

928
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: a big deal that going about it like going about

929
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 1: it in the fun way is ever the wise way?

930
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: Like I just don't see that being healthy. Okay, so

931
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: let's turn the tables on this. What if klin knew

932
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: all about his player ways this entire Paradise time, but

933
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: just never really put it out there in paradise? Would

934
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: you would she privately tell each girl like warn them? Yeah?

935
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: Like what would you do then like afterwards, like message

936
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,760
Speaker 1: the person that he ends up with and be like hey, okay,

937
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: get that, or like in the girl's room. You're like,

938
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: by the way, like I know your did you're you're

939
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 1: into Blake, but he's really not that great. What I

940
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: would probably, I think would be the why. I don't know.

941
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 1: I mean again, I'm not like I don't know how

942
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: to do conflict perfect perfectly, but I could say that

943
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: I think the best thing to do, and that the

944
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: one thing that bothered me the most, and I trust me,

945
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: Like this is messed up, like so so hard to process.

946
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: I wish Calin would have went to Blake first. You

947
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 1: wish Calin had gone to Blake first, like off camera

948
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: and no, no, no, even if she did it on

949
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 1: national television. I think the move was like instead of

950
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: like kind of building an army um going to him

951
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: personally and saying, Blake, what you did to me was wrong.

952
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: I don't respect it, I don't like it. Like I

953
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: need to talk to you personally before any of this

954
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 1: comes out, and I want you to know that through

955
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 1: the rest of this like time and paradise, I will

956
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: warn these women of what happened. Okay, you're right. If

957
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: I wasn't so, if I wasn't so enthoralled by watching

958
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: a woman with vengeance, I would agree with you. It's

959
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 1: probably the right thing to do. I mean, I don't

960
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: and like, again, she's hurt, and so this is for

961
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: my own entertainment at this point, you know what I mean? Yeah,

962
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: but like yes, and and I but I'm sitting there

963
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 1: and I'm going everybody else there knows about this except Blake,

964
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: Like this, this guy is gonna be in his mind,

965
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: like I don't know if he just doesn't realize it.

966
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: But at some level, you would think that Blake maybe

967
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 1: knew going into this that I'm setting myself up for

968
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: a really wild, like really bad experience. Like you would

969
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: have to have to think that he knew from like

970
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,720
Speaker 1: that this isn't gonna play out perfectly in his mind,

971
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: and so maybe maybe to assume that things would have

972
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: changed if she just went to maybe I'm crazy. I

973
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: don't know. I just it felt a little bit like

974
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: odd to me that everybody else knew that she was

975
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,439
Speaker 1: so upset before Blake knew. I guess, Okay, I agree

976
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: with you, fun sure, I don't know. Listeners tell me

977
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. I mean, you're not. Technically you're probably right,

978
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: but I guess I'm just thinking about from entertainments, like

979
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. Isn't this funny the difference in tone

980
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: between Paradise and The Bachelorette. If we ever like laughed

981
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,439
Speaker 1: about things like this with the Bachelorette, it wouldn't fly.

982
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: If this was if this was the Bachelor, we'd be

983
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: fired up. And unfortunately or fortunately it's Paradise, were like,

984
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 1: oh boy, like every time, I mean, one of our

985
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: closest friends, Dean, who we love dearly, was this guy

986
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 1: last year, two years ago? Yeah, I know, I know,

987
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 1: Dean messed up, you know what, Dean defending? He was

988
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 1: pretty upfront. Let I mean and my memory of two

989
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: years ago too, But wasn't he pretty upfront? Like, Hey,

990
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 1: I'm really confused right now, I'm bouncing around because I

991
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: really don't know what I want. At least it was

992
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: in Paradise, and he wasn't like honestly, like, very are

993
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 1: things that I want to say right now, but like,

994
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: at least it was just like making out with two girls. Yeah, hey,

995
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Speaker 1: way to hire amazing. To finish up the Blake conversation,

1032
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 1: I think this whole season is gonna be a roller

1033
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: coaster for Blake. I think that we're gonna learn a lot,

1034
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 1: just like we do every Paradise and every Batchelor and

1035
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: Bachelor about how people resolve and work through conflict. Um,

1036
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: it's gonna be really interesting to see how the group

1037
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: in Paradise responds to Blake personally. As this continues to

1038
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: come out, I mean, he's a fan favorite. He is

1039
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 1: a cast favorite down in Paradise. As this comes out,

1040
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting to see if people kind of

1041
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 1: support him and go, oh, I can relate, or if

1042
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:03,760
Speaker 1: they go, no, dude, you're on your own here. Wait.

1043
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: The big thing that we haven't talked about yet is

1044
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: Christina wants to bring Blake on a date. And I

1045
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: don't get why. I don't get what. I think you

1046
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: know why. I think I know why. She just wants

1047
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: to talk it out. She wants to completely clear the air.

1048
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: She wants to do what you wish Kaylin did do

1049
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: addressed him first. Interesting. If that's the case, I do

1050
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: respect this. Hey, we have a lot of reader or

1051
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: listener emails. We respect your emis, We love your emails.

1052
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: I actually just watch an Instagram story where somebody tagged

1053
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: us in it and it was talking about the jet

1054
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: interview that we just did last week. Um, we we

1055
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: really love hearing from you. We love to hear your

1056
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: different opinions. Just don't be mean to us. It hurts

1057
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 1: my feelings. I try to read these emails and these

1058
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: tweets and these Instagram messages, like and like have these

1059
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 1: conversations with you all, because when things are black and white,

1060
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: like or feel black and white, the only thing you

1061
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: can do is like still open yourself up to So

1062
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: maybe there's another way, just like, let's have a conversation.

1063
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: Stop being mean. It hurts, it sucks. I don't like

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00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: reading them, um, but we have a lot of listening

1065
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: to emails that we love to read. We're gonna read

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00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: them now, Blake, best of luck, buddy. Let's see how

1067
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: this plays out. And uh yeah, all right, let's get

1068
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: into emails. All right, let's do it. We're going to

1069
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: bring in the voice of the people, somebody who has

1070
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: not been on Paradise or The Bachelor. It is producer Tory.

1071
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna read through some emails and give our thoughts

1072
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: if we really have any excited Okay, this is from

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00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: Mariah the Jed Situation. She titles the email. I was

1074
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 1: hoping to feel different towards the Jed situation after your interview,

1075
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: but I feel worse. Even though he admits fault through

1076
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: many things, he still puts blame on others and changes

1077
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: stories like accidentally liking the Instagram comment. I would love

1078
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: to hear you guys touch, guys touch on this next

1079
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: episode on how you felt before and after talking to

1080
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: Jed while having the conversation, and I kind of understand

1081
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 1: where she's coming from. There was something that I did

1082
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: mess up. I messed up last last episode. There was

1083
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: a point where I said, your relationship crumbled at the

1084
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: hands of somebody else, and that's absolutely a mistake. And

1085
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: I think I said it out of just feeling a

1086
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: lot of sympathy for him, like sitting next to me,

1087
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: obviously struggling with the interview and crying, and I was like,

1088
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 1: you know, I felt bad for him, regardless of like,

1089
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: how could you know how big the mistake it was

1090
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 1: that he made. It's still like I had the human empathy,

1091
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: you know, in some weird way. I think he he

1092
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 1: really didn't realize what he was doing. He didn't like

1093
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 1: I think like it was very genuine that he was

1094
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: Like looking back, I've I've grown and I learned a

1095
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: lot because I didn't realize what I was doing. And

1096
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 1: I can kind of rest easy on that just being like, Okay,

1097
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 1: you're just owning that. You really, I think like female

1098
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: a female, it's really hard to hear, but like sympathizing

1099
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: with him as like mailed the female being like, all right, boy,

1100
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: like you gotta grow up, put on your big boy

1101
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: pants and step into this relationship. And he just didn't.

1102
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 1: I think he did learn, though, I don't think he'll

1103
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: ever do this again. You're not sure, No, I really

1104
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 1: hope not. I just think that he like genuinely doesn't

1105
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: realize it. Yeah, and I still have to be honest.

1106
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: Another thing that I was affected by with having him

1107
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: sit next to me during it was I'm not sure

1108
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 1: if I buy that phone call at the airport. It's

1109
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: just interesting that the texts are completely different than the

1110
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 1: phone call at the airport in which he says that

1111
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 1: he totally, you know, broke up with the girl. It's

1112
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 1: just hard because I really genuinely feel like he really,

1113
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: like again, he just really didn't understand it. So he

1114
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 1: really didn't mean to do it, Like he wasn't maliciously

1115
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 1: going out and like breaking girl's hearts and being like

1116
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 1: screw you. Like I think he just literally didn't realize that, like, oh, shoot,

1117
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 1: really thinks I love her and I love her as

1118
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 1: much of like I really like you love you? Yeah. Well,

1119
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 1: he when he said the can't you say I love

1120
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 1: you to somebody you're not comming to I was like,

1121
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: I don't really think so. It's just so weird because

1122
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: it's like, I'm not that person, but I can understand

1123
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: when if somebody else isn't, maybe in that situation. We

1124
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: have another email about the Jet interview. If you guys

1125
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 1: haven't listened to it, we didn't in depth episode that

1126
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 1: was released on Friday with Jet. This is from Megan.

1127
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 1: I met my husband when I was engaged to someone else.

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01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 1: I was in the stages of wedding planning when I

1129
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: attended a coworker's wedding and one of the groomsmen walked

1130
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 1: me down the aisle to my seat. Something hit me

1131
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 1: that was uncontrollable and undeniable. I fought the feeling for

1132
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, knowing that I was engaged, but

1133
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,919
Speaker 1: I couldn't turn off the internal feelings. I ended my engagement,

1134
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 1: and less than a year later, my husband and I

1135
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: were married and now we have two kids. I feel

1136
01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: awful that I heard someone in the process, but I

1137
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: had to follow my heart. Haley wasn't Jed's person. If

1138
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 1: Hannah was his person, I do feel awful for him,

1139
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 1: and just like that, I'm Team Jed. Is that like

1140
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: I can. I can get it. That's crazy because that's

1141
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 1: where you have to have a little sympathy for him totally.

1142
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: And I don't think that there's only one person out

1143
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: there for you. I think that there's multiple people you

1144
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 1: could end up with, but you have to really like

1145
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: take your compromises, take your whatever they may be. And

1146
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 1: I can see her having a happy marriage like marriage

1147
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 1: to maybe who she was engaged to just would have

1148
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 1: been a little different than the person that she's married too.

1149
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Like, I think she could have

1150
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 1: been compatible with both of these people, but her heart

1151
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 1: just strung a little bit more with this other person.

1152
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 1: It was more undeniable, And I think Jed had that

1153
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 1: with Hannah. So just like that, I'm like, I get

1154
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 1: where Jed was coming from. And his mistake was made

1155
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: so early that I don't even know if you could

1156
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: have backtracked, you know. Okay, moving on to Tyler news.

1157
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 1: The first We'll start with this email from Pierce. As

1158
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 1: I was listening to your interview with Tyler, I had

1159
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 1: an idea Tyler should be on Dancing with the Stars.

1160
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 1: It would be a great fit for him. He's a

1161
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:09,919
Speaker 1: fan favorite and he loves to dance. Oh that's true.

1162
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 1: He does love to dance. Is freaking brilliant. Yes, this

1163
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 1: is great because it's a good compromise for all of us.

1164
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,439
Speaker 1: We can see Tyler back on ABC. We doesn't doesn't

1165
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 1: necessarily hav to the Bachelor, and we knew that. The

1166
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 1: way that they have or how things have unfolded over

1167
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 1: the past week, it seems like Tyler's chances of being

1168
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 1: the Bachelor low. To me, I was gonna ask you

1169
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 1: what your predictions were. I think they're low because we

1170
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 1: we saw him like go sleep over at Hannah's, so

1171
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 1: I think that the Bachelor Nation is going to really

1172
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 1: try to ship that. But then to three days later,

1173
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 1: we saw him at a date at a date at

1174
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 1: Dumbo House in Brooklyn with Gigi Hadid, which is actually

1175
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 1: Tories doubling Gang. I will cry, you can no, I

1176
01:03:56,520 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 1: can't even I love. That was very nice, and um,

1177
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 1: we should mention that it wasn't just a day at

1178
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 1: Dumbo House. It's I have an article here that said

1179
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 1: that they actually ended up going to Jud's place. Wait wait, wait,

1180
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 1: wait wait wait, who's the source. Somebody's not following them

1181
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 1: back to house. I don't know. So this is what

1182
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 1: I was tagged in on Instagram. Take that with a

1183
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 1: grain of salt um. On Sunday, the Florida Nato was

1184
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 1: spotted at Brooklyn's Dumbo house with a supermodel before leaving

1185
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 1: together to go to Deeds Manhattan apartment. She came out

1186
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 1: the main entrance by Almondine Bakery. He walked around to

1187
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 1: the alley on the left by Smile to go. Her

1188
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 1: car picked him up there. They went into the garage

1189
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 1: at her apartment. A spy told Page six pretty reliable

1190
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 1: source on Monday, noting that they were hanging out until

1191
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 1: at least two am. The sighting follows a world wind

1192
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 1: week blah blah blah blah. And then and after that,

1193
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 1: news broke yesterday about Tyler's hang out with g I

1194
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 1: kind of tried to get to the source who posted

1195
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 1: that picture. Now I couldn't get directly to the source,

1196
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 1: but I got to the source. I got to the

1197
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: girl who posted who who posted her friend's picture? And

1198
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 1: you know, like, this is the girl who did the posting.

1199
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 1: So she's a fan of the Almost Famous podcast, so

1200
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 1: that was helpful in getting the info. Her name, well,

1201
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 1: she her Instagram handles arts and food underscore NYC and

1202
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 1: her name is Dana. And this is what Dana told

1203
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 1: me after I told her I wanted her to be

1204
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 1: on the podcast. She said that she didn't feel comfortable

1205
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 1: because she takes it to publicity and then backs off.

1206
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 1: Her friend, who witnessed the date, was actually a little

1207
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 1: upset with her about blowing it up. Da, you already

1208
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 1: took it to madical, just come out and milk it,

1209
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 1: so she said, as that. All my friend told me

1210
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 1: was that she saw them together getting a table for

1211
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 1: two and it looked romantic, not friendly. And I said,

1212
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 1: did it look like they hung out before? And she said,

1213
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 1: oh gosh, I have no idea. My friends said they

1214
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 1: were flirty and it was just the two of them.

1215
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 1: So I've had like a conspiracy theory on both of

1216
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 1: these things. With Hannah and with Gigi. Hannah they did

1217
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 1: the thing, they had the wine. I think that they

1218
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 1: just caught up on such great times that two am

1219
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 1: hit and he was like, well, I have a flight

1220
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 1: out tomorrow morning because I think it was pretty he said,

1221
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:37,959
Speaker 1: he was did he was leaving on Friday? He said,

1222
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 1: so why like go back to the hotel. If you're

1223
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 1: having a great time, you're just going to crash on

1224
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 1: her couch, maybe the same bed, But like, I don't

1225
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 1: think anything happened, Okay. I think he got signed to

1226
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 1: like Wilhelmina Models or whatever and they were like we

1227
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 1: need or he was getting talked to and they were like,

1228
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 1: we need him over any other agency. Gig go and

1229
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 1: pull out all the stoppers and get him to sign

1230
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 1: with us. No, you're so innocent. No, this is my

1231
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 1: theory because this is also in hopes that he will

1232
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 1: still go in The Bachelor, because you want him to

1233
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 1: be Yes, of course, but this is my theory because

1234
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 1: I think we only get one side of the story,

1235
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 1: and the real side is like they were just hanging out.

1236
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 1: I don't only think there's chemistry between Hannah and him anymore.

1237
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of just it died out and then, um,

1238
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 1: I think GG was there to put out the stoppers

1239
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 1: and get him signed. I don't think the sign thing

1240
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 1: is true, and I don't know that by the face

1241
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 1: that Hannah had that next morning, whether or not your

1242
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 1: theory that one's true either. But the great great angles

1243
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 1: for people to look at just in case they want

1244
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 1: to believe they don't want to believe what the appearances seen,

1245
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 1: and then he's going to come out next week saying

1246
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 1: for Bachelor, I I'm Tyler and I'm the next Bachelor,

1247
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 1: and then he's going to come out with all the

1248
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 1: statements and statements will be like, yeah, I was just

1249
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 1: trying to get signed and then Hanna and I were

1250
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 1: just friends. How much sympathy do we have for Hannah

1251
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 1: at this moment seeing that the guy that she had

1252
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 1: to sleepover with two or three nights ago ended up

1253
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 1: having a date with a supermodel, So sad, so much

1254
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:19,679
Speaker 1: fear in my body, Like g is freaking next level.

1255
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 1: So imagining a man that I loved or like did

1256
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 1: love or head feelings for going for them, I'd be

1257
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 1: like throwing the white towel. She did post something on

1258
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 1: Instagram that I don't want to say is a complete uh.

1259
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 1: I don't want to connect it completely to the date,

1260
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 1: but she did post something that said it could be

1261
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 1: worse and then said like congratulations Leo, and she was

1262
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 1: showing a whole bunch of tabloids wait like Leo DiCaprio

1263
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 1: because like in touch said something like he was engaged,

1264
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 1: which I don't believe at all, But either way, that

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Speaker 1: at the top of the the video, It's like, could

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Speaker 1: be worse And this was like just as everything was

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Speaker 1: coming out, I don't understand it. What what what? What? What

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Speaker 1: could be worse? You're literally you're literally living your best

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Speaker 1: life right now. Romantically, No, I mean romantically. If you

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Speaker 1: see the guy that you're trying to get with go

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Speaker 1: out with a supermodel romantically, situations couldn't get much worse anyway.

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Speaker 1: All right, wait, wait, wait, sorry, can I say one thing? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know we're wrapping up and I'm gonna let it

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Speaker 1: wrap out. Tyler told us that he didn't DM gig

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Speaker 1: in the in depth. Did you believe him though? Because

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Speaker 1: I thought he was smirky, You didn't believe him? And

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Speaker 1: we have Danielle producer. Danielle, Now this is Hannah's karma.

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Speaker 1: What did you think based on Tyler's face when we

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Speaker 1: talked about the d M they are totally talking like

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Speaker 1: obviously and totally You're right. Yeah, I mean I've been

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Speaker 1: wanting to talk about this since we had the end up.

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Speaker 1: You guys, remember, he's so guilty, Remember what. I wasn't

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Speaker 1: super sure that he seemed excited to go out with Hannah,

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Speaker 1: and like I got a Lotok, flak for that because

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Speaker 1: apparently a lot of people saw him as very excited

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Speaker 1: and willing to go out on the date with Hannah.

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Speaker 1: I feel like maybe he was already talking to Jiuji

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Speaker 1: and was like, oh lord, I think he was talking

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Speaker 1: to gi. Oh totally, I'm on your But it was

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Speaker 1: just to get him signed. You know, I don't even

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Speaker 1: know why would Why would Wilmo don't have an issue

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Speaker 1: getting him A lot of people's models on him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe cute little boutique modeling one, you know, like your Heart,

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Speaker 1: but that's not the reason. Just wait, I can't wait.

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Speaker 1: Tell somebody speaks out on this and it's exactly what

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Speaker 1: my my conspiracy theory. Okay, well, I'm sending my my sympathies,

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Speaker 1: not my condolences. Yet we have no idea what's going on.

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Speaker 1: He could have gone that day with Jiuji and was like,

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Speaker 1: heck no, I'm going right back to Hannah. Yeah, absolutely possible.

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Speaker 1: You know what, Daniel just flipped me a paper and

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Speaker 1: she thinks it's Hannah's karma. So I don't think I

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Speaker 1: don't my goodness, you guys, but I do have to say,

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Speaker 1: regardless of any situation, I'm sending my sympathies and thoughts

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Speaker 1: to Hannah at the moment, honestly a box of tissues

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Speaker 1: and a white flag and I screaming sorry, Ben, we

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Speaker 1: had to have some girl chats. There's some topics that

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Speaker 1: are best when blabbird with three females around the table.

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Speaker 1: What a season of paradise it will be? Seems like

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Speaker 1: the storyline is gonna be blake. But I'm Ben and

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Speaker 1: I've been been, And I'm Ashley and I've been Ashley.

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Speaker 1: Later by followed the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous

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