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Speaker 1: It is Monday, August four. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hours presented by Jet Home Loans and now

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Speaker 1: TikTok's highest rated singing barbecue chef, Kay Pece Shadrick. I

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Speaker 1: have never never made one TikTok. I don't even know

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Speaker 1: how to do it. Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour, J P.

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Speaker 1: Shadrick on this Monday afternoon, as always, Pete Briscoe, Tony

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Speaker 1: BASSELLI join us, and we've got a program today with

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Speaker 1: these two maintenance days, another one today for the Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: Will get into the guys who were off to the

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Speaker 1: side indoors today and what that really means. From head

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Speaker 1: coach Doug Marrone. A little more offensive line talk. George

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Speaker 1: Warhocks will over the weekend about the state of the

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Speaker 1: left tackle position. We'll get Tony's thoughts on that, some

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Speaker 1: quarterback talk as well, social question or two, and then

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Speaker 1: we'll go around the National Football League. Pete, Tony, what's up, Tony?

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Speaker 1: How are we doing today? Well? I got issues here,

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Speaker 1: I got all kinds of video issues, but I'm doing good,

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Speaker 1: doing good. How are you guys doing? What kind of

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Speaker 1: Florida what what kind of issue? Yeah, I can't see either,

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Speaker 1: but that's okay. That's not a bad thing. Not seeing

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Speaker 1: you two. I'm okay with that. We're in high definition, Pete,

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Speaker 1: to speak for yourself definition. It brings out all your

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Speaker 1: flaws even more so, j Pe, I hate to tell

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Speaker 1: you that. Oh wow, takes one to know one. Pete.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. You know, it has been a

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Speaker 1: positive day on the COVID nineteam front, and in fact,

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Speaker 1: well not a positive day, a negative day. In fact,

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Speaker 1: the league just a few minutes ago announced some of

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Speaker 1: the results from August twelve and twentieth that week. In

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Speaker 1: that span over a week there between August twelve in August,

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Speaker 1: they administered just over fifty eight thousand tests to about

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Speaker 1: NFL players and personnel, and they had zero confirmed positives

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Speaker 1: among players and only six among personnel. Pete. That is

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Speaker 1: pretty remarkable, it really is. And it's a tribute to

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Speaker 1: a the players because I expected a few knuckleheads to

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Speaker 1: go out and bring it back in once in a while,

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Speaker 1: but they haven't done that, which is a good thing. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's a real tribute to the teams

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Speaker 1: for the way they're handling things. And the money that

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Speaker 1: the owners have spent to make things, as you know,

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Speaker 1: a good it's a great look for the league. You know, people,

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Speaker 1: let's be honest about it. There were many in the

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Speaker 1: media who thought that this would be a disaster. They

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Speaker 1: predicted it. It's kind of like the people in the

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Speaker 1: media who predicted Florida would become the next New York

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Speaker 1: and that's clearly not happening. Uh, as it relates to

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Speaker 1: situation where the NFL should be given a ton of

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Speaker 1: credit and by the way, the entire offseason they should

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Speaker 1: be given a ton of credit. Remember in the midst

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Speaker 1: of this thing, they said, oh, you can't have the draft.

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Speaker 1: The draft was one of the best they've ever had.

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Speaker 1: Then the you know, first it was free agency, then

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Speaker 1: the draft. They've moved on. They've done a really good

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Speaker 1: job with it. Let's hope it stays that way. Wow,

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Speaker 1: Pete being positive, it's a shocking state of affairs here

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Speaker 1: today on the Monday Show. Usually you come out firing

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Speaker 1: bullets of people and they're very very nice to the

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Speaker 1: league and everything else. I agree, though, I think it's

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Speaker 1: handled perfectly. Now. The real test, though, is coming up.

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's not Let's be clear, is once we

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Speaker 1: have happened if the false positives that the New Jersey

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Speaker 1: a game. Well, I think what you would do, Tony,

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Speaker 1: It's not like, you know, you're playing in the stadium

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Speaker 1: just saying, I think they listen. I applaud the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I mean they're doing a great job. I applaud the

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Speaker 1: it which will really determine whether this is successful or not.

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Speaker 1: But also their young athletes, you get, you know how

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Speaker 1: back the next week. I think that's a possibility, Let's

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Speaker 1: be honest, Tony. Two of the three on this show,

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Speaker 1: But I think it's one of those you know, we're young, active,

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Speaker 1: And you look how healthy I am right now, picture

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Speaker 1: of solid gold right here. Come on. Yeah, no one

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Speaker 1: And you have a lot of things that we have

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Speaker 1: back of the practice field today. But well, some of

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Speaker 1: the Jags were back on the practice field today. Twenty

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Speaker 1: and it included today some big time names. Gardner Minshew

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Speaker 1: They're just not going through Uh. You know they're not

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Speaker 1: but it was different not seeing a lot of those

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Speaker 1: a maintenance day because you're hitting too much? I get

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Speaker 1: if you have an injury or something like that that

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Speaker 1: you want to be smart, but work. I mean, look

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Speaker 1: when you have only fourteen days of padded practices. Why

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Speaker 1: You used to have fourteen days of pad of practices

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Speaker 1: just can't I mean, less Gardner Minshew has like dead arm,

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Speaker 1: be conservative with injuries. I get that. But just a

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Speaker 1: hitting fourteen days. Um. So they started camp one day

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Speaker 1: six weeks. You're gonna have fourteen hard practices. That's two

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Speaker 1: happened on this defensive line already too. Top free agents

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Speaker 1: are not around. Other guys are hurt or have retired

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Speaker 1: two suspensions at the start of the season, and Carl

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Speaker 1: Davis and Josh Morrow they're not available. So, as you said, Tony,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's a group that is relatively thin. They've

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Speaker 1: got journey Gain in there, and he's flashed a little

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Speaker 1: bit the first few days of camp. What have you

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Speaker 1: seen out of journey Gain on that tape you've washed?

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Speaker 1: You know there's moments. I mean, he has some nice

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Speaker 1: it in him. The question is how many does he

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Speaker 1: have in him per game? And so how often can

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Speaker 1: he stay out there? Can he hold up uh playing

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Speaker 1: and play out That would be my big question. But

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Speaker 1: he has flashes, There's no doubt about it. UM. I

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Speaker 1: mean you look at Tavian Brian. I said it before.

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Speaker 1: He had to be a guy that was one of

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Speaker 1: and he had to be disruptive. UM. He had shown

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Speaker 1: explosives of strength. UM. The question is gonna go find

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Speaker 1: maturing there it looks like he's doing better and better,

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Speaker 1: but with a bone bruising him out. That is like

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Speaker 1: I Doug said it perfectly. It's week the week, it's

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Speaker 1: where where is the bone bruise? Uh? And what is

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Speaker 1: the severity of it? And so just to everyone listen

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Speaker 1: to you get a bone bruise I've having before. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And if they're at a weight bearing portion of your knee,

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Speaker 1: a real pain and you know what um. And so

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Speaker 1: depending on the severity of it, where it is in

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Speaker 1: Hopefully it's mild uh, nothing too serious and uh he

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Speaker 1: how did Hamilton's look on the table. He's a big body, um,

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Speaker 1: you know he's I think what you're gonna get out

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Speaker 1: a big run stuff in you know, eat up space

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Speaker 1: I think you know that's who he is. I think

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Speaker 1: he I think him and Avery basically rotate at that

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Speaker 1: nose positions would be my guests. They could use an

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Speaker 1: And to define what does impact mean, because a lot

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Speaker 1: this different stuff. An impact for him might just being

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Speaker 1: And it might not show up a bunch of the stats,

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Speaker 1: Burton and Miles Jack and we'll make plays and he's

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Speaker 1: eating them double teams and everything else. So and I

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Speaker 1: the impact isn't what you think. It's not the stat

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Speaker 1: sheet it's not the flashy stuff. Um, they need guys

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Speaker 1: that was really bad against the run last year, and

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be guys like Hamilton to step up if

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Speaker 1: they want to fix that. Yeah. Sometimes it's the snaps

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Speaker 1: your point, Tony, for sure, Hey, let's come back. We'll

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Speaker 1: Was the question that was the answer with Cam is

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Speaker 1: gonna be the starting left tackle, and I don't think

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Speaker 1: he gets much clearer than that Tony. Um yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I mean if you watch the tape, I mean he's

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Speaker 1: playing better. He's the better left tackle right now. So

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Speaker 1: I think it's clear today. I mean I thought it

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Speaker 1: what I've seen in the tape watching one of the ones,

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Speaker 1: and the team works, but works much better. You see

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Speaker 1: he's worked on, he's cleaned up. He looks like he's

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Speaker 1: in shape this year. Um, he looks like a guy

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Speaker 1: who getting ready to play in his contract year. What

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Speaker 1: he looks like to me. And that's a good thing

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Speaker 1: because Cam's talented and big, physical, athletic, I mean, all

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Speaker 1: the things you want. And so I think George is right.

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Speaker 1: George Warhopp, offense line coach, is dead on that he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be your left tackle. Um, I thought, I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, let me bring my cynical side out. I

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Speaker 1: think it's funny that he said that. The good news

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Speaker 1: is they don't have to worry about any maintenance in

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Speaker 1: the managing of Cam because of his need. But then

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Speaker 1: he had a maintenance to it. But he was one

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Speaker 1: of the guys who had the maintenance day today. Isn't

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Speaker 1: it early to crown a champ though, Tony? I mean

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Speaker 1: we thought he would be the starter. And I wonder

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Speaker 1: if Maron was okay with Warhop letting that out. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think can you imagine if Mike Maser said something

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Speaker 1: Mike Maser, he would have I mean, cough would have

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Speaker 1: gone nuts. Well, My the difference is, here's a big difference.

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Speaker 1: None of those guys ever talk to the media, and

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Speaker 1: they weren't allowed. Assistant coaches didn't talk to the media

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Speaker 1: you know, if you want, if you watch practice, I

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Speaker 1: I mean your question about should Warhop has said that

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Speaker 1: many more practice do you really have? Your um, if

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Speaker 1: your will rising to win the job, I mean, have

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Speaker 1: a scrimmage coming up this week, Um, you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: tape cam is clearly better. It's not really close to me. Um.

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Speaker 1: And so maybe Georgia just speaking that was he good

639
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Speaker 1: on Was he good on Saturday? In the scrimmage or

640
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Speaker 1: whatever they called it on Saturday? Was he good now? Yeah? Yeah,

641
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Speaker 1: I mean I think he had one MRS signment or

642
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Speaker 1: that it wasn't missing. He had a bad down bock

643
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: against David tab made a real nice play blew it up. Um.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I would say overall, yeah, I thought it

645
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Speaker 1: was solid techniques better because that's one of your you

646
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Speaker 1: guys have all pens sidebout technique. Yes, being his footwork

647
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: is so much better in the past game, and that's

648
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Speaker 1: the thing I've really been focusing on. And so um,

649
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,720
Speaker 1: I think that's a good thing. And I mean, Pete,

650
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Speaker 1: does it surprise you? It's his contract here, you guys talented. No,

651
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Speaker 1: it doesn't surprise me. Is but it sounds like and

652
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Speaker 1: I haven't seen him, but it sounds like from what

653
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 1: you guys say, his body is in ten times better

654
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: shape than he looks great. He looks great well and

655
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Speaker 1: if he had, like you said, if he has a

656
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: good year, is gonna make a boatload of money. And

657
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: if he has a good year, the offensive line is

658
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: gonna be pretty good, right. I mean think about that

659
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: if you because I think the right tackle is gonna

660
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: be a really good player. Uh, the center and the

661
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: left guard or solid players, and maybe the centers above

662
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,479
Speaker 1: solid and then whatever you get out of the right guard.

663
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: He's inconsistent, but he has his moments. That line could

664
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Speaker 1: be pretty good this year if he's good. Yeah, I

665
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 1: mean that's what they're hoping for. I mean, I still

666
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: worry about the running game because I'm still not convinced

667
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: that they're tight end group. I like them better from

668
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 1: a pass catching I mean, I firt looks good on tape.

669
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Speaker 1: You know you can tell he's a professional tight end,

670
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Speaker 1: like he knows how to get open and find space

671
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 1: in the secondary. He's good. Um, I mean, I don't

672
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be the tile I for that when

673
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: he came to the league was one of the more

674
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: dynamic tight ends. But he is a good player. I

675
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: still worry about can they hold up on the edge

676
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 1: though in the run game, Like who's going to be

677
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: that blocking tight end that's gonna hold up on a

678
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: six technique, a head up defensive end playing a four

679
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: or three so they can run the ball, because if

680
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: you can't block the edges, you can't run the ball

681
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: on tight end. Here. Let's finish up on the offensive

682
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: line discussion here, and let's hear from Juwan Taylor, the

683
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: right tackle. He spoke over the weekend as well about

684
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: the physicality that this group can bring up from. We're

685
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: definitely putting a big emphasis on, you know, get more

686
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: push off the line, being more physical at the point

687
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: of contact. So we've definitely been focusing on that every day.

688
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: Uh Close. Warhous been preaching at us every single day

689
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: that you know, we need to get more movement off

690
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: the line and you know, create more space for our

691
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: running basket, a lot of we got a lot of

692
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: good back, so we gotta make some space for him

693
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: and create plays with him. Well you can, you can

694
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 1: say it, but it's a matter of going out and

695
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: do it. And as to your point, Tony, it's it's

696
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: more than just those five guys. It's the tight ends,

697
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: it's the fullback, all those guys involved. Pete. Sorry to

698
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: cut you off there, but I wanted to get you

699
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: on in there because he's a guy who's penalized a

700
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: bunch of last year. Can he work past that? And

701
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: what kind of player can he be now in year two?

702
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a dominant player. I think

703
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: he has a chance to be uh their best right

704
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: tackle to Leon seriously and and maybe even better. And

705
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: Leon was the heck of a player, but this guy

706
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 1: has a chance to be a long term guy. Leon's

707
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: career in Jacksonville was very condensed. Obviously, he got hurt.

708
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: He came over as a free agent. But I think

709
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: this is this is a guy who can be there

710
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: draft and developed right tackle, goes to you know, two

711
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: or three Pro Bowls down the line. That technique, stuff,

712
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: the mistakes, that's all part of being a young player.

713
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: I think he learned a ton last year. It was

714
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: great to play him. You get in there and you play,

715
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 1: and Tony you could speak that better than I can.

716
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: I imagine you learn more in one game playing than

717
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: you do in you know, thirty practices on the practice field. Well, yeah,

718
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 1: I mean I think you learn a lot. I mean

719
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: being in the game situations of understanding you know, the

720
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: different situations and the different type of guys you're gonna play,

721
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: and then you know and how to react and more

722
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: than anything, probably being comfortable out there. I mean the

723
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: more reps you get out there in more game situations,

724
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: like there's a comfort level of like knowing you've done

725
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: it um and that you can handle it. And after

726
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: his rookie year and the way he performed, I think

727
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: he should be confident going into this year like, hey,

728
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: I have the ability to be one of the better

729
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 1: right tackles. As you talked about Pete in the NFL, Well, yeah,

730
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 1: it's it's important for him to to keep developing. Obviously,

731
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: and we touched on the interior of this offensive line

732
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: to we know Lender Obviously he's been around here for

733
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: a while. He's on a second contract, Norwell had some

734
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: criticism at times, but um, a good solid veteran left

735
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: left guard in this league and then a j can

736
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: at the right guard spot of veteran guy who has

737
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: been resigned by the team. They're all back. That's you know,

738
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,760
Speaker 1: at the end of the year, how did they play

739
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: Tony and then hey, they're all back. So apparently it

740
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: was improvement as the year went along, right or is

741
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: this a press start? Yeah? Yeah, I don't know about that, Jap.

742
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: I mean, this is an offense I only scored three

743
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: points a game for seven straight games. It was an

744
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: offense that couldn't run the ball consistently. It's an offense

745
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: that they had to play, according to the head coach,

746
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: now Gardner Mintshew, because they couldn't. They needed a quarterback

747
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: who could make people miss in the pocket and extend plays.

748
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 1: And so to say that that they're brought this group

749
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: back because they were happy with how they were performing,

750
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: I find that tough to believe based on what the

751
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: head coach told us last year and what the numbers

752
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: told us. I think that's why I think I think

753
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: there was some surprise that there wasn't you know, some

754
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: moves made, whether earlier in the draft or whatever to

755
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 1: see if they can solidify their offensive line a little bit. Um.

756
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: And so I'm hoping, um that what we've seen that cam,

757
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: you know, you go across the board and each guy

758
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: is a little bit better and improves and it becomes

759
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: more consistent, because I don't think it's a talent issue.

760
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: I think it's a consistency issue. And uh. And so

761
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 1: that I think that's what you know if you're George

762
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: Warhop and I think what Joelan Taylor's told us, it

763
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: is like he's continually to beat the druma like, Hey,

764
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: we need to be be more, get more movement, we need

765
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: to be consistent. It's playing and play out. So um,

766
00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 1: that's the thing that I think will be interesting this

767
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: year year. Uh. But I would disagree with you if

768
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: the messages, hey we really feel good and we have

769
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: a great our offensive line was where we wanted it

770
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: last year, so we just brought them all back, um,

771
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: at least not based on what the stats and what

772
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: the head coach told us last year. Right, But they

773
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: could be much like you mentioned Tony in the run game,

774
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: and if they're improved in the run game and they

775
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: can't block the edges. It's not really going to matter

776
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: that much. I mean that that that pot point is

777
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: spot on. They have to be able to block the edges.

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00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: I gotta block the days for sure. Let's come back. Well,

779
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: we'll talk wide receivers when we returned. Um, that's the

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848
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: last couple of days Saturday and Sunday with a shoulder issue.

849
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 1: He's again week the week. That's what Doug Marone said,

850
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: this morning. Other than that, everybody else is out there

851
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: and actually playing pretty well. They've flashed in camp, at

852
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: least in my opinion so far. Tony guys like Chark

853
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: obviously you expect um, but Conley has had his moments.

854
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 1: Cole had a couple of really nice reps today against

855
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: the C J. Henderson and the rookie corner Channault. Just

856
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: walking across the field, you can tell he's got something special.

857
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: And and then Colin Johnson has that height to him.

858
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: So Tony, they've they've got some pieces here, it feels

859
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: like to me. Now the question is when the lights

860
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: come on, can that equate? Well, it's interesting so and

861
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: I haven't watched every practice on tape, um, but you're right,

862
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: they do flash and they're impressive. They're young, though, and

863
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 1: so that's the question. Outside Conny, you wonder, you know,

864
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: you don't have a lot of experience in that group,

865
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: so it's a little bit of still prove it to

866
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 1: me type of situation. I mean, obviously had a great

867
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: year last year, but it's one year. I think he's

868
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: gonna have a great year this year as well, and

869
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: I think so, No, it would be a nice piece. Um.

870
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: You have to contemper your expectations sometimes with those rookie

871
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: wide receivers because it could take some time to get

872
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: going a little bit. But he definitely has all the tools,

873
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: you know. But the interesting thing about for me about

874
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: the passing game JP, and you've seen all the practices,

875
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 1: I've not seen them all. There's times where it really

876
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: looks good and I'm talking about Gardner, Minshew and the receivers,

877
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: and we've seen some really accurate beat balls from Gardner

878
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: and the guys who can go get it. But then

879
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 1: there's times that this it doesn't feel like the receivers

880
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 1: and the quarterback are on the same page. I mean,

881
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: I go back to Saturday looking at a route over

882
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: the middle and either a Gardner was wrong where he

883
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,479
Speaker 1: thought Chark was gonna be or charted, you know, broke

884
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: out over the middle when he was supposed to curl in. UM.

885
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: And so there's been like a handful of those times

886
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,240
Speaker 1: that You're I'm watching, I'm like hunt, it just seems

887
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 1: like a little bit off throws that might you think

888
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: be a little bit easier UM. And whether it's you know,

889
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: the route being wrong, ran at the wrong level, or

890
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: turn them out when you're supposed to turn in or

891
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: whatever it is. There's just been a couple of misques

892
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: that happen in camp. But because you have limited time

893
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 1: and it is a lot of young guys, Um, you

894
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: gotta clean that stuff up. Now, how many will they keep?

895
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: Do you think, Tony? How many will they keep? Uh?

896
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:32,240
Speaker 1: Probably six? I think they keep six? Yeah, okay, so Chark,

897
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: Westbrook Channel, who else? UM community keep char calmly So

898
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: I think those so not. I think uh, Westbrook will

899
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: be your four. Um, I think they keep um Johnson

900
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 1: College Johns. I think they keep it in Rookie and

901
00:48:55,360 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: then probably Keenic. So you keep calling Keelan Cole, you know,

902
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: because I've been reading some of this stuff and I

903
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: haven't seen any practice, but it sound and talk to people,

904
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 1: it sounds like healing Cole actually looks better. But for

905
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: me today, the biggest concerned he might have looked good

906
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 1: against c. J. Henderson. That's not a good thing for

907
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 1: the defense. Keiling Cole beating up on c J. Henderson

908
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: your first round pick is not a good thing. And

909
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: I know that's if if that's a pattern, that's a

910
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: bad look. Mean, yeah, it's a pattern, but let's not

911
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 1: jump to conclusions here, Mr Prisco, I'm not any day

912
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 1: shouldn't happen. If you're the first round pickus now, a

913
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 1: day like happen. If you play enough, man, you're gonna

914
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: get beat. I don't care who you are. I mean,

915
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: that's not keeling Colby Jalen Ramsey at times during the

916
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 1: tenure here, So did you JP to other people? M Yeah,

917
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: you know, I'm kind of with you here, Tony. But

918
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 1: because Henderson the first week at camp, everybody couldn't stop

919
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: talking about how good he was. Yeah, yeah, we're not.

920
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 1: Let's not pull this out proportion. I mean fires and

921
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: like you know, start controversy. There's no place bust already. Tony.

922
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: I'm a believer. I'm a buster and the kid, I'm

923
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: a believer in the kid. I think he's a good

924
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 1: cover corner. I think he's gonna be a good player.

925
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: And that's not what you just said, Pete. It's a

926
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: little You need to figure out what I was reading

927
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: today that he got beat a bunch. That's that's a

928
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: concern he did. Where did you read it? Twitter? On

929
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: on the websites and Twitter. Yeah, so there's a there's

930
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: a couple of videos beat all the time, though it's

931
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: a little bit of exaggeration. A couple of one on

932
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: one kind of red zone drills back to back in fact,

933
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: where then in the second JP JP, you were there.

934
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: If you had the grade C. J. Henderson's day, give

935
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: me a grade um C minus. That's not good, but

936
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: it's one day, okay, okay, j P. If you had

937
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: the great C. J. Henderson over this entire camp, which

938
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: is great B plus. Okay, that's good, you're there. I'm

939
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 1: not so I'd like to hear that. Yeah. I think

940
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: he's been fine so far and is one day an illness?

941
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: So cut cut him some slack peep. Well, look, I said,

942
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: if it's a pattern, it's a problem, it's not, then good.

943
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a good player. I don't

944
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: think that's a position to worry about on that side.

945
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: I think Herndon's a feisty little player. I think their

946
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,359
Speaker 1: corners will be better than people think they are. I'll

947
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: be honest with you. I don't think there's an elite

948
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: guy there, but I think they'll be better than people

949
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 1: think they are. And if you want to say, where

950
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: is your concern on the defense, it's not the secondary

951
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,760
Speaker 1: per se. I think because I actually think the safety

952
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: are going I think, you know, Harrison is gonna have

953
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: a better year. I think he'll get better. I mean,

954
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: he has talent um, and so I think the safety

955
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: will be will be okay as well. I'm with Pete.

956
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: I think the linebacker level, I'm hoping that Myles jacket

957
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 1: will be a better situation for him. I think show

958
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: birch An upgraded at Mike after Jared Allen upfront. Boy,

959
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: I think you got a lot of questions. I agree, yeah,

960
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 1: um a lot of questions. That clock's running low on

961
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: time to answer those questions. Not not a lot of

962
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,879
Speaker 1: time left in training camp here in who knows, there's

963
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: a lot of points this year, Fellas better score a

964
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 1: lot of points this year, Fellas. But do you think

965
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,720
Speaker 1: this office is set to score a lot of points?

966
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: I don't know what what he's gonna plan to do

967
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: with them. But you know, sometimes, Tony, you have to

968
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 1: play to your defense and to me, and I'm sure

969
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: you agree with me. You look at this on the surface,

970
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: it looks like it's going to be a defense that

971
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,919
Speaker 1: struggles a little bit or a lot. And if that's

972
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: the case, go try and score a lot of points.

973
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 1: You know, don't play trying to miss my point. You're

974
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,479
Speaker 1: missing my point. Do you think they tried to only

975
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: score an average of three points a game? Style? Are they?

976
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: Are they explosive enough to score a bunch of points?

977
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: That's my question. I don't know answer that question because right, so,

978
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: but again, you're gonna have to score more points than

979
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I'm not saying they didn't want

980
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 1: to score points. That's a stupid thing to say. But

981
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 1: you gotta play a little looser, a little free, or

982
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: let them go if because that defense is going to

983
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: be a liability. Would you not agree with me that

984
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 1: the defense will be more of a liability than the offense. Yes,

985
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: But I I hate with a passion when you start

986
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 1: making comments they need to play a little more free

987
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: and open, like what does that mean? Because you say

988
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: things that I don't think you can describe what that

989
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: actually means. It made you throwing early downs more. I

990
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: think they did that earlier later in the year. But

991
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 1: when mit, you went back in there trying, but they

992
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 1: were also playing with a kid. They were playing with

993
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: the kids starting a quarterback last year. Now now you

994
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: have a kid that's been at least been in this

995
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 1: He's not been a system, but he's been with the

996
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: team that they know what. He's more familiar with his receivers,

997
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 1: a comfortable quarterback, and he's what you think he is

998
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: the let him throw it early downs. I agreed, But

999
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: to say he's like he's not in the system, he's

1000
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 1: comfortable with. It's a brand new offensive coorting. They have

1001
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 1: a brand new tight end, you know. I mean, there's

1002
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: some p It's just I'm hoping you're right. I'm just

1003
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: it's it's a wait and see for me. I don't know.

1004
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it. Listen. I'm a big believer in

1005
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,439
Speaker 1: some of the pieces they put together on that side

1006
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 1: of the ball, and starting with d J. Chark, I

1007
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: love him, and I love the right tackle and I

1008
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: think Cam the way he's looked, it's awesome. All great things.

1009
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: There's a lot of questions too. Well, let's put it

1010
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: the this way. If the offense isn't prolific enough to

1011
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 1: score many more points this year than it did a

1012
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: year ago, they will be drafting Trevor Lawrence. How about that.

1013
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: Just put it out there. Have you done? Your done?

1014
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 1: This record for all the teams yet. No. And I

1015
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: by the way, we haven't cut the team yet either.

1016
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: Because we're not cutting the team. We haven't seen enough.

1017
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: We haven't done the scrimmage yet. Yeah, you're three weeks.

1018
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 1: You know what I love? Tony loves cutting the team.

1019
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 1: Hates it. He loves when we start talking mock drafts

1020
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: in November when they're out of out of playoff contention.

1021
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: I mean, all those things, they just get right under

1022
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: your skin. You hate that. Yeah, I don't love it,

1023
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: that's for sure. Number one, two thousand and one NFL Draft,

1024
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: The Jacksonville Jaguars select quarterback clubs in Trevor Lawrence. Can

1025
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,560
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Speaker 1: you're gonna get yourself in trouble, you know. You know,

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Speaker 1: it might look great in the press and everything. Oh

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Speaker 1: there's this guy confident, look at him, you know, but

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Speaker 1: you know I'm I'm confident in what I do, but

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Speaker 1: I'm always looking to get better. And those guys, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I've had help from everyone I rely on,

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Speaker 1: you know, whether it's uh, you know, whether it's Keenan,

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Speaker 1: whether it's Ron, whether it's you know, Ron Middleton, Keena McCardell,

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Speaker 1: whether it's you know, Harry Robiski, who has has probably

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Speaker 1: has the most experience out of everyone on us, you know. Um,

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Speaker 1: but I'll also rely on some of the younger guys

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Speaker 1: you know, and what they see. I like to get

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Speaker 1: people's opinions. Um. And the only thing I can't stand.

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Speaker 1: I can't stand people that that that they're gonna tell

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Speaker 1: me what I want to what I want to hear.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I want people to be honest.

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Speaker 1: I want people to be upfront at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day. That's that's what's gonna give us a chance.

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Speaker 1: I coached Doug Marone earlier today welcome in one hour down,

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Speaker 1: one hour ago on Jaguars Happy Hour, j P Shadrick,

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Speaker 1: Pete Frisco, Tony Boselli. Glad you're along with us, your

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Speaker 1: social questions coming up? Um. The question of Doug there

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Speaker 1: guys was about I'm really about Macadoo, who will hear

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Speaker 1: from a little bit later in the show and Jay

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Speaker 1: Gruden their relationship and what do those guys bring to

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Speaker 1: the staff working together, and then what can coaches. He

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Speaker 1: had a lot of experience on the staff. I think

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Speaker 1: there's a point there, and Doug Barone is open to

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Speaker 1: hearing different different ideas on different topics, and and that's

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Speaker 1: what that Tony, that's that's huge. Obviously you don't know everything,

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Speaker 1: even if you're the head coach. No, I mean I

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Speaker 1: think it's it's the smart thing to do. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you have a staff for a reason. Guys have different respectives,

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Speaker 1: have been at different places, They've seen it be done

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Speaker 1: in different ways and have led to success. So you're

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Speaker 1: always evolved, You're always trying to get better. I mean

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Speaker 1: the saying that was true when I played, you're either

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Speaker 1: getting better or you're getting worse. You're never saying the

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Speaker 1: same applies the coaches and players of life. And so

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Speaker 1: I think Doug has the right mentality and he's always

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Speaker 1: trying to get better and and learn and how can

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Speaker 1: you do it better? I love what a coach said

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Speaker 1: as he doesn't want us, Yes, man, he wants to

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Speaker 1: be challenged. And and you've heard stories, and Tony, you

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Speaker 1: know you've known guys and coaches and personnel people who

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Speaker 1: don't want to be challenged. I know a scout that

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Speaker 1: got whacked by a team because he challenged the general

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Speaker 1: manager in a meeting and he didn't want to hear it.

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Speaker 1: And you can't have that. I mean, you don't know everything,

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Speaker 1: and as a coach you should open your mind, and

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Speaker 1: as a personnel guy, you should open your mind. I

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Speaker 1: want people to challenge me if I like a player,

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Speaker 1: uh As I say, I'm a scout or a personnel

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Speaker 1: director and I like a player, I want my scouts

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Speaker 1: to tell me why I should go back and watch

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Speaker 1: him again. It's the same thing with coaching. If I'm

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Speaker 1: a coach and I have an offensive player system that

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Speaker 1: I like, I might want my coordinator, my receiver, coach

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Speaker 1: to come over to me and say, hey, why don't

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Speaker 1: we do this and this will work? We should try this.

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Speaker 1: And I think a coach with an open mind is

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Speaker 1: a good thing. A coach with a closed mind is

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Speaker 1: a dangerous thing. Yeah, I mean I think that could

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Speaker 1: go through any anything in life. For me. If you

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Speaker 1: if you have the did you know everything, you're in trouble.

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Speaker 1: It's one of the reasons I worry about you, Pe

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Speaker 1: because you think you know everything, and it's a big

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Speaker 1: it's a big flaw character flaw that you have that

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Speaker 1: it concerns me. I mean, you should probably listen to

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Speaker 1: the things you say about other people and try to

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Speaker 1: limit yourself no, Tony. What I was gonna say is,

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Speaker 1: I think one thing that we've done on this show

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Speaker 1: is you've evolved. When we first started, you were hardheaded,

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Speaker 1: you yell at fans, you'd yell at me. And now

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Speaker 1: we've toned you down a little bit, so you've opened

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Speaker 1: your mind. You're not a closed minded lug like you

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Speaker 1: used to be. I don't think I ever yelled at

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Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever yelled at fans. I think

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Speaker 1: that's a little bit. Yes you have, Yes you did,

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Speaker 1: Yes you did. Revisionist history. Send out, Send out a

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Speaker 1: Twitter polls as Tony Vaselli yelled at fans on this show,

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Speaker 1: yes or no. Never, maybe like a passionate conversation, but

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Speaker 1: never yelled. Yeah, um yeah he yelled. Hey. Back to

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Speaker 1: the coaching dynamic here, Pete. Obviously Jay Gruden former head

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Speaker 1: coach in Washington in that division, Ben McAdoo, is that

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Speaker 1: so not too long for the New York Football Giants.

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Speaker 1: They're both now on staff here. Um, what about that relationship?

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Speaker 1: And and obviously the past is the past and they're

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Speaker 1: here to to get this Jaguars team better. But it's

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Speaker 1: gotta be an interesting dynamic in that room. Well, it's

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Speaker 1: great to have guys who've experienced it from the top,

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Speaker 1: and and granted neither one of them had great success

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Speaker 1: experiencing it from the top. But maybe sometimes you're just

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Speaker 1: a position coach or you're just an offensive coordinator. That's okay,

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01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 1: that's fine. And Jay Gruden was a good offensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: before he was a head coach, and I think that's

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Speaker 1: a good thing for Gardner Minshew. It's a good thing

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Speaker 1: for Doug Barone. He has a guy or guys on

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Speaker 1: his staff that who have been head coaches and he

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01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:01,919
Speaker 1: can lean on them a little bit in certain situations.

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Speaker 1: I like the dynamic of the staff. I'm curious to

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Speaker 1: see Minshew in the offense when the thing gets cranked up.

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Speaker 1: I think it fits what he does getting the ball out,

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01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 1: but again, we don't know until you actually play real games.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a good staff. I'm a big believer

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Speaker 1: in Keenam Cardell. I've known him for a long time.

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna go big places in this league

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Speaker 1: as a coach. I think he's gonna be a coordinator

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Speaker 1: soon enough, and then and then maybe a head coach.

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Speaker 1: So I like the staff, particularly on offense and I

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Speaker 1: think defensively, they have some good coaches, so it's a

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Speaker 1: good staff. Now the question becomes, if you don't win,

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Speaker 1: what happens to that staff? They're probably all gonna be

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Speaker 1: looking for jobs. That's the scary thing. Now though they

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Speaker 1: have a chance to show that they belong and should

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Speaker 1: stay longer. What do I wonder what they have you bring?

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Speaker 1: I mean, now I'm gonna do something that Pete does

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Speaker 1: that I hate, like jump like eight steps ahead of

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Speaker 1: what we should be talking about. But you brought it up.

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Speaker 1: How many games do they need to win? I mean,

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Speaker 1: because that's a I mean there's so many like variables

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Speaker 1: out there and so many you know, influences that this

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Speaker 1: staff had nothing to do with them. You know, COVID

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Speaker 1: and no off season and everything by you know video,

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Speaker 1: and it makes it really hard in a young team.

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Speaker 1: On top of it, what do they have to do?

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Speaker 1: What success? What do you think success? You know, forget

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Speaker 1: about whether they get fired or not. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to talk about that. What is what would be successful

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Speaker 1: in your mind for this team this year? I'm not

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Speaker 1: jumping ahead. I want to stay right here and focus

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Speaker 1: on the now. I never jump ahead. I never pushed forward,

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Speaker 1: stay right here. But elly, I'm not gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: I just want to stay right here and talk about

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Speaker 1: the now, not looking to the feature. Okay, that's you,

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Speaker 1: that's your that's you. By the way, No, what success? Five? Five,

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Speaker 1: five would be success? In my mind, six would be outstanding.

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Speaker 1: Six six, six wins. So you're saying five would be success.

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Speaker 1: That's one lesson they won last year, Pete six, you're

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Speaker 1: telling me that it's six, well six with this team

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Speaker 1: at six, I said it last year, last week, the rebuilding, reloading.

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Speaker 1: So six, what do you think successful? Hold on, I'm

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Speaker 1: not I'll tell you in the second I'm asking you.

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Speaker 1: You're telling the fans of the Jacksonville Jaguars were listening

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Speaker 1: to our our show and expect expertise analysis from you

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Speaker 1: that if they win six games, the fan base should

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Speaker 1: be happy and said we're on the right track as

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Speaker 1: a football organization. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying

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Speaker 1: that if they win six games, if they win, you,

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Speaker 1: I don't think the winning. I think they're gonna push.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna push to win six games. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: That's if the fans out there are listening my expertise,

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Speaker 1: this team is well, that's what I'm telling you. I'm

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Speaker 1: not asking you that. I'm saying, what would it be

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Speaker 1: deemed as successful for this coaching staff at the end

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Speaker 1: of the year. If they did this, this, and this,

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Speaker 1: that's successful, Like they did a good job and they

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Speaker 1: should have their jobs back in the following year. Like

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Speaker 1: what success they have to if they keep their jobs,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna have to win eight or nine games. So

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Speaker 1: you're saying success is eight or nine games in because

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Speaker 1: a second ago, I'm trying to figure out what it is.

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Speaker 1: No eight or nine games like success to me, Pete, Well,

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Speaker 1: it sounds like success with what they have there. That's

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Speaker 1: that would be a successful season. You know what real

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Speaker 1: success would be going over in sixteen and getting Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: That's real success. I mean, JP, I don't know where

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Speaker 1: to go with this because I've heard like fifteen different

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Speaker 1: numbers thrown out there, um and so I'm a little

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01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 1: bit confused right now. I think six, he's an eight,

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Speaker 1: he's a zero zero with the roster that they have.

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Speaker 1: Success is five or six wins for the coaching staff

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Speaker 1: to stay successes eight or nine wins, Like you're you're

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Speaker 1: moving the ball over the chess board right now. So

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01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 1: let me let me be very clear to our fans

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Speaker 1: and the people listen to jp UM. I think, to deem,

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Speaker 1: this is a successful year for Don Morone and his

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Speaker 1: coaching staff. They need to improve by at least two games,

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Speaker 1: and they won six last year. They need to win

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Speaker 1: eight games this year to say, you know what, we're

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Speaker 1: up to at least eight games. I think that would

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Speaker 1: be success. We agree, We agree. What do you think

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Speaker 1: would be a successful season? That's what I just said.

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Speaker 1: So you think they don't get eight wins, that's not

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Speaker 1: a successful season. That that again, if they don't get

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Speaker 1: eight wins, it's not a successful seasons. What's your a

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Speaker 1: in two forget Doug Barrowne and his coaches that I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about, Tony BASSELLI, what is a successful season for

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Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars as as an organization. Yes, you have

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Speaker 1: to you have to show progress. And I think if

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Speaker 1: you win six games or less, you're not showing progress. Now,

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Speaker 1: the only caveat to that that I'll put out there

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Speaker 1: is if you if you win five games, but Gardner

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Speaker 1: Minshew and you just have your defense because it's decimated

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Speaker 1: by injuries and everything else and opting out and you

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Speaker 1: can't stop anyone to save your life. But you start

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Speaker 1: to see an offense that is productive and Gardner Minshew's,

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Speaker 1: you know, four thousand yards and thirty touchdowns and twelve picks.

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Speaker 1: That success even if you win five or six games.

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Speaker 1: So you have to see progress. All I was saying,

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Speaker 1: that's why I think it's it's not just wins and losses.

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Speaker 1: So if you're asking me wins and losses, it is

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Speaker 1: eight wins, so you're showing improvement there. Then I would

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Speaker 1: say improvement from the young quarterback and offensively that you

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Speaker 1: were showing that you can score points in you're a

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Speaker 1: productive unit, which they were not last year. That would

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Speaker 1: also be a metric of success for me looking at it.

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Speaker 1: And so that you know, wins obviously, this is what

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Speaker 1: you're we're all graded on as in the NFL's wins

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Speaker 1: and losses. And then secondly, it's the production and improvement

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Speaker 1: of your quarterback in your offense um from a from

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Speaker 1: what you do on the field. Those are the two

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Speaker 1: things I think I would be looking at. Let's just

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Speaker 1: say this. I'll throw this out there, Gardner Minshew throws

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Speaker 1: for dred yards, thirty four touchdown passes, thirteen interceptions. The

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Speaker 1: offense is explosive and they still go for a twelve

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Speaker 1: successful season or not? Yeah, I would say yes, because

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Speaker 1: that means you just had the worst defense. Now, I

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Speaker 1: think it would be changes. There can be changes with

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Speaker 1: the coaches staff, but with the head coach, Andy, I mean,

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Speaker 1: are you gonna get rid of your offensive coordinator that

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Speaker 1: just came in and did that? Got rid of the

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Speaker 1: head coach? You would oh? I mean yeah. I mean

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Speaker 1: now we're going down the path of people losing jobs

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Speaker 1: and not losing That was my point of this conversation.

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Speaker 1: The point was what would be successful this year? And

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Speaker 1: I think the metric that everyone's measured by in the

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Speaker 1: NFL wins and losses, and so you have to start there.

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Speaker 1: And so if it's not better than last year, then

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Speaker 1: it's not successful. We agree, Tony, We agree for those guys, Yes,

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Speaker 1: we do success for the coach. You you don't understand me.

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Speaker 1: For success for the coach and staff. It's eight or nine.

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Speaker 1: My uh, the definition of success is five or six

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Speaker 1: because I don't think they're very good. I think they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be feisting, staying games and maybe score some points,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think they're gonna win a lot of games.

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Speaker 1: So if I think they're gonna win three or four games,

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Speaker 1: if they get the six, in my mind, that success.

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Speaker 1: But not as an organization, that's none. Like your best argument. No,

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Speaker 1: as an organization they got I'm with you, they have

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Speaker 1: to show progress, Like I like you actually would have

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Speaker 1: a decent argument if you to start and saying, you

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Speaker 1: know what successful this organization is is going own sixteen

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Speaker 1: to getting Trevor Lawrences your quarterback, because now you have

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Speaker 1: a quarterback for the next ten years. Like if you

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Speaker 1: have said that now, I would have argued with you,

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Speaker 1: and I'd be like, I don't consider that success. I

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Speaker 1: don't think you go to a season like that. But

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Speaker 1: at least that would of made sense. You're like going

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Speaker 1: from you would argue with me, no matter what nine

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Speaker 1: to zero, no matter what you can't know you are not.

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Speaker 1: There's different there's different definitions of success. No, the coaching

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Speaker 1: staff success is different than my determination and what's successful,

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Speaker 1: and it should be different than what your determination is

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Speaker 1: to be successful. You like you said if you're talking

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Speaker 1: about yes, you do. You just said it. If they

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Speaker 1: if they had explosive offensive minshoot, just showed a bunch

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Speaker 1: of progress, and they would five and eleven or six

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Speaker 1: and ten, you would say that was a success correct

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Speaker 1: over offensively. Yeah, because you have a quarterback. Now like

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Speaker 1: you check the box. You have your quarterback. But is

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Speaker 1: that a success? Yes or no? Success? Definition of success

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Speaker 1: yes or no? For the organization? Yes, having quarterbacks at

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Speaker 1: that position. Yes, I rest my case, I rest my defense.

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Speaker 1: I rest my case. That wasn't the question. A few

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Speaker 1: Twenty four players were held inside today getting full work

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01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 1: possibly havn't. If he has that kind of year, that

1467
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 1: can only enhance mcadoo's credibility around the league. Maybe he

1468
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 1: gets an offensive coordinator job, and then who knows. Uh So.

1469
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 1: But again I said something earlier that I still believe.

1470
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:16,599
Speaker 1: Sometimes guys are just position coaches or coordinators. Maybe Ben

1471
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 1: mcadoo's just a good position coach or just an offensive coordinator.

1472
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 1: Not everybody's a head coach, Not everybody's cut out to

1473
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 1: be a head coach. Well, I mean, I agree with you.

1474
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 1: But you know the interesting thing about Ben McAdoo, if

1475
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, his first year the Giants, he won

1476
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 1: eleven games. Did you take the team to the playoffs

1477
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 1: in sixteen when he was that coach beat Yeah, but

1478
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 1: then you go off a cliff Tony. Listen all I'm saying,

1479
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 1: it's interesting. He was there for two years, if I'm

1480
01:21:53,880 --> 01:22:00,080
Speaker 1: not mistaken, one eleven games year one, and then he

1481
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:03,200
Speaker 1: had off a cliff, Yes, and they had the second

1482
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 1: worst record in the NFL. Um it was. It's just

1483
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 1: interesting how quickly that disintegrated underneath him in New York

1484
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 1: after having a good year. Unless I'm getting my years wrong,

1485
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure. Yeah. And he was also the

1486
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator for kauf On that you know, for two

1487
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 1: years too. I mean, look, the guy's the guy Green Bay.

1488
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 1: He's good. You know, he was involved with the quarterback

1489
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:36,600
Speaker 1: he was the quarterbacks coach there. He's been around good offenses.

1490
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 1: And he's not an old guy. And this is a

1491
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:42,360
Speaker 1: young guy relatively speaking. He's forty three years old. I mean,

1492
01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:44,519
Speaker 1: why would he be out of coaching for two years?

1493
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 1: Who knows? Um? But again maybe he just you know,

1494
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:50,760
Speaker 1: wanted the regroup and spend time with the family. Like

1495
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 1: you said, this is a chance for him to show

1496
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 1: people that he can still do it and get another opportunity,

1497
01:22:57,120 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 1: maybe to be an offensive coordinator. Yeah, it's just interesting.

1498
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 1: You see a guy who wins the eleven games and

1499
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 1: now he won three the next year, and so you

1500
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 1: wonder if there was more issues in the building as

1501
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 1: far as the leadership style the head coach Um. But

1502
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 1: he obviously knows how to coach with Paul, He's had

1503
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:15,559
Speaker 1: success and I think you know he's a good asset

1504
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 1: and a good good guy to having the building conduct borrow,

1505
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 1: wasn't it too? Was No? Three? Now I'm looking at it?

1506
01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 1: Beat that? Ye? Right? Well then they used to call

1507
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:37,760
Speaker 1: him macadone, didn't they. Yeah, that's you're you're you're the

1508
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:39,760
Speaker 1: national guy. You could tell us what they set up

1509
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 1: in New York. We're not sure. Let's just stay on

1510
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 1: the quarterback. You know, we've we've talked to Ben show

1511
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:49,679
Speaker 1: you we know he's the starting quarterback here. But today

1512
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 1: especially we got to see the rest of them, Glenn

1513
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:56,799
Speaker 1: and Dobbs Luten with only ones on the field taking

1514
01:23:56,800 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 1: reps today, Tony, from the tape that you've seen, what

1515
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:07,679
Speaker 1: is the quarterback room opening day? I would only keep

1516
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 1: I mean I would keep too. I would keep glennon

1517
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 1: and Minshew and I put Luten on the practice squad

1518
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 1: because I think you have sixteen guys in the practice

1519
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:18,920
Speaker 1: squad and they're gonna have some freedom I think based

1520
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 1: on you know, this COVID environment of how they manage

1521
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 1: that up and down. So I put Luton as the

1522
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:26,960
Speaker 1: third UM. I wouldn't keep him active. I put him again,

1523
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 1: like I said in the past, squad, and I don't

1524
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 1: think that I don't think there's a place for probably

1525
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 1: on this roster for Josh Dobbs. I've heard Luton's look

1526
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 1: pretty good and throws the ball very well. Is that true? Yeah,

1527
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:42,600
Speaker 1: you can spin it, um, but I think he was

1528
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:44,720
Speaker 1: thinking you want you saw that at Oregon State he

1529
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 1: could spin it. But I've heard he's looked pretty good

1530
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:49,600
Speaker 1: at times in this camp throwing the football. And that's

1531
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 1: so again, it's not like he's gonna be exposed playing

1532
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:55,960
Speaker 1: in a preseason game. So if he didn't get drafted,

1533
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:58,320
Speaker 1: until he got drafted, nobody, nobody's gonna know what he's

1534
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 1: doing on the practice field. So Tony's correct, You probably

1535
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 1: put him on the practice squad and then if something happens,

1536
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:10,680
Speaker 1: you activate him. Easier to do. Yeah, So I think

1537
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 1: that's what it looks like, alright, guys, let's get a

1538
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 1: couple of social questions in Tony your faceure, here we

1539
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:21,599
Speaker 1: go week, got a couple, got a couple this week? Um,

1540
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:23,879
Speaker 1: you know we need we need more of a response

1541
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,480
Speaker 1: is what we need to be quite honest with you.

1542
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:31,639
Speaker 1: You know what we need. We need the yelling Bassellly.

1543
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 1: We need yelling BASSELLI back because he used to get

1544
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 1: more questions when he was a yeller and they'd irritate him.

1545
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:40,639
Speaker 1: So let next week, let's say if you can send

1546
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 1: in a question that irritates Tony, he's gonna yell like

1547
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:45,799
Speaker 1: old times and get get us back into the spirit

1548
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:48,720
Speaker 1: of things. Well, now what but I will make sure

1549
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 1: I tweeted out the question next week on Monday morning

1550
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:54,040
Speaker 1: like I did last year. And that's you know, obviously

1551
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 1: your followers to you as the army, and I'll make

1552
01:25:58,080 --> 01:25:59,720
Speaker 1: sure I send out the questions. We gets a good

1553
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 1: question because Pete don't work so well last week. To

1554
01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:08,720
Speaker 1: let you, I didn't say I didn't send anything last week.

1555
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 1: Number one. I did, and I mean JP did and

1556
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:14,679
Speaker 1: you retweeted it. So what's the difference of you sending

1557
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:17,520
Speaker 1: it out? Because when I said I think your followers

1558
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 1: Pete are more interactive than Tony's followers, so that makes sense,

1559
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 1: you know, and it worked out on That's why. That's

1560
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:26,920
Speaker 1: why he's gotta start yelling again, because then he'll get

1561
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:30,240
Speaker 1: more interactive with the followers. You get more interaction, he'll

1562
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:32,599
Speaker 1: be much better. So start yelling next week or tonight.

1563
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:34,800
Speaker 1: If somebody irritates it, it's like, let's go back to

1564
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 1: where we used to be used to screaming. Yell at

1565
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 1: the fans. You hear it. I started screaming at you.

1566
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 1: If that makes you feel better, okay, we'll take it.

1567
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:48,439
Speaker 1: We gotta get something, Matie, you better? What do you mean?

1568
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:52,599
Speaker 1: And I'm carrying the show you with your stupid takes.

1569
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:55,559
Speaker 1: It don't even make sense bouncing all over the place

1570
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:57,880
Speaker 1: like you, you know, who knows what you've been doing.

1571
01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:01,639
Speaker 1: I want an argument as usual, But that's a whole

1572
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:08,400
Speaker 1: another story. Social question number one gentleman at stew Underscool

1573
01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:11,160
Speaker 1: Winners ask what side of the ball do you think

1574
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 1: his strongest for THISGS team as of today and will

1575
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 1: that be true by the end of the season. No,

1576
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 1: I think defense always starts. It looks better early in camp,

1577
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 1: but I think you know, probably for the most part.

1578
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 1: You watch the elemen on eleven H drills, you know

1579
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:30,600
Speaker 1: probably lean slightly to the defense. But I think the

1580
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 1: offense will be the better unit throughout the year. I mean,

1581
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 1: I think you know they're gonna have to carry I

1582
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 1: I don't think this is a team that can win

1583
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:41,320
Speaker 1: with defense. I'm not saying they're gonna be terrible. I

1584
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 1: think they probably end up middle of the road somewhere.

1585
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:45,679
Speaker 1: I don't think it will be the side of the ball,

1586
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 1: which we've been counting on for years based on the

1587
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 1: seventeen season, that really has to step up. I think offensively, um,

1588
01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 1: there'll be a better unit, and I think they're gonna

1589
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 1: have to be if they want to love football games.

1590
01:27:57,080 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think it's all offense. I think

1591
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:01,639
Speaker 1: the offense will be better. Here's the question, though, Let's

1592
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 1: just say the guys didn't opt out and the guys

1593
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:07,760
Speaker 1: didn't get hurt. How much better would they have been?

1594
01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:11,559
Speaker 1: Isn't that a legitimate question? I mean, alb I think

1595
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:15,679
Speaker 1: and Gunter there. Yeah, I think they helped. They're better

1596
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 1: against the run, right, you would think that, But how

1597
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:21,600
Speaker 1: much better are they They're still there's still gonna be

1598
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:25,519
Speaker 1: a struggling defense at least I think so. Well. I think,

1599
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:27,640
Speaker 1: I mean, those big bodies make a difference, pet in

1600
01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 1: the run game. I think that. I mean, what is

1601
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 1: a guy who's proving he can play the run. He's

1602
01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:33,680
Speaker 1: a big body gunter. I think had a chance to

1603
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:35,800
Speaker 1: really Uh if you look at what he did in

1604
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 1: Arizona as a young player, Um, he was not a

1605
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:42,160
Speaker 1: name a bunch of people knew, or it's not highly up.

1606
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 1: But I think he was an up and coming guy

1607
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:46,280
Speaker 1: that was going in the right direction. So I do

1608
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:48,439
Speaker 1: think the death would have helped at the very least.

1609
01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it would have made him, you know,

1610
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:53,439
Speaker 1: a top five defense. But I worry about them stopping

1611
01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:56,720
Speaker 1: the run this year. I mean they couldn't last year. Um,

1612
01:28:56,800 --> 01:29:00,400
Speaker 1: and I worry about it this year. Well, you know,

1613
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 1: it makes sense to worry about it because it's gonna

1614
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:06,040
Speaker 1: be a problem. But again, how much better would it

1615
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 1: have been without Woods and got there? That you'd say

1616
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:11,760
Speaker 1: it would have been better? But how much Okay, you

1617
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 1: want me to give much yard per carry? Okay, I

1618
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:16,639
Speaker 1: think they're gonna give up four point three yards per carrying.

1619
01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 1: I think they'd given three nine those two were there.

1620
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:23,360
Speaker 1: How about that? Does that help you? What about Snacks Harrison?

1621
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 1: What about him? I mean he's out there, but what

1622
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 1: about him? He didn't want to play in Detroit. He

1623
01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 1: didn't retired basically or get cut. No, he's out there. Yeah,

1624
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 1: they let him go. He wants to play. I mean,

1625
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 1: would he be somebody could bring in and help the

1626
01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 1: run game? I think he could. I mean, once upon

1627
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 1: a time you can argue that he was one of

1628
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:50,800
Speaker 1: the best interior defensive linem to stop in the run.

1629
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:53,720
Speaker 1: And he's not. I mean, he's not an old I

1630
01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:55,639
Speaker 1: don't think he's an old He's not an old guy

1631
01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:58,600
Speaker 1: anymore or anything either. What is he thirty one? He

1632
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:01,720
Speaker 1: could still be going there and help. But I don't

1633
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:03,000
Speaker 1: know what kind of shape he's in. I don't know

1634
01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:05,519
Speaker 1: what the issue was in Detroit, where they never been

1635
01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:09,479
Speaker 1: in great shape. No matter, is he a bad locker

1636
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:11,800
Speaker 1: room guy? Was he causing trouble? I mean, I mean,

1637
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I mean, why it's not only

1638
01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:16,960
Speaker 1: Detroit with his great team, Why are they let him go?

1639
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:18,960
Speaker 1: I mean there's always a reason guys get let go

1640
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:21,679
Speaker 1: to Pete. You know this, I mean, and I'm sure

1641
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:24,360
Speaker 1: I'm sure, Dave calledwell and Doug and that group have

1642
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:26,560
Speaker 1: done their homework and and know what's out there and

1643
01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:28,360
Speaker 1: they investigate it. We haven't, so I'm not going to

1644
01:30:28,439 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 1: speculate what the reason was, but there's um based on

1645
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:35,960
Speaker 1: the defensive line depth right now. My guess is they've

1646
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:38,799
Speaker 1: looked at it and made the determination at this time.

1647
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:44,200
Speaker 1: He doesn't help him as a player. As a player

1648
01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:47,360
Speaker 1: thirty one years old, he would help him. Now, you're right,

1649
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:49,280
Speaker 1: we don't know if he's a problem in the locker room.

1650
01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:52,479
Speaker 1: I hadn't heard that though, but again I'm not and

1651
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 1: he and he's in shape, he could help them. Let's

1652
01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:03,680
Speaker 1: get one more social question, and this is from J McMahon. Underscore,

1653
01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:05,960
Speaker 1: what is this team ceiling in terms of wins? Well,

1654
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:09,240
Speaker 1: let me I'll start with us. Every team's ceiling is

1655
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:13,400
Speaker 1: sixteen wins. In the right team games, they could win sixteen, right,

1656
01:31:13,479 --> 01:31:16,680
Speaker 1: thank you? We just I guess we touched on this earlier.

1657
01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:22,120
Speaker 1: But what do you think, Pete five or six? That's

1658
01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 1: that's what I think. If if they get more than that,

1659
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:28,439
Speaker 1: kudos to the coach and staff and Gardner Minshi will

1660
01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:31,160
Speaker 1: be their long term quarterback. That that's exactly what I

1661
01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:34,880
Speaker 1: think because I don't see it again. I think they're

1662
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:36,720
Speaker 1: gonna be in tough in some games. I just don't

1663
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:38,840
Speaker 1: think they're gonna win a lot of games. But if

1664
01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:42,360
Speaker 1: they get to eight wins, Gardner Minshew will have established

1665
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:45,400
Speaker 1: himself as the guy for the long term. That's how

1666
01:31:45,439 --> 01:31:47,559
Speaker 1: well Hill have to play to get the eight names.

1667
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:54,400
Speaker 1: So is it eight or six? Just give me one number.

1668
01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:57,559
Speaker 1: I just want one, like five numbers. I think they're

1669
01:31:57,560 --> 01:32:00,720
Speaker 1: winning six, five or six. That's a that's two or

1670
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:07,720
Speaker 1: six from one number? What number? Five? Okay? Five? Okay? Um?

1671
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:14,839
Speaker 1: I think their ceiling is ten games? Is their ceiling? Wow?

1672
01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:17,600
Speaker 1: I mean the ceiling. I mean that's I mean, he

1673
01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:20,720
Speaker 1: goes away. Gardner plays great, you know, Josh Allen is

1674
01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:23,280
Speaker 1: you know, defensive m v P C. J Henderson is

1675
01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:26,120
Speaker 1: a lockdown corner that you draft him to be. Miles

1676
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:29,479
Speaker 1: Jack makes the transition to Will Leonard Fordette is running

1677
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:32,439
Speaker 1: like in you know, playing like it's his last uh

1678
01:32:32,479 --> 01:32:35,519
Speaker 1: in the last yearvice contract camera ABMs doing the same thing. Yeah.

1679
01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:39,800
Speaker 1: I think ten wins, I mean that's Gardner Minshew takes

1680
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:42,160
Speaker 1: a step up over world he was last year, and

1681
01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 1: it is proven to be your franchise quarterback. D J.

1682
01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:46,560
Speaker 1: Charcott was in the one year Hit Wonder, which I

1683
01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:48,680
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna be, and he shows that he

1684
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:51,760
Speaker 1: could be a true number one. I mean those things happen. Yeah,

1685
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:54,479
Speaker 1: I think they can win ten games, maybe eleven, but

1686
01:32:54,520 --> 01:33:01,479
Speaker 1: I'll say ten is my ceiling? Getta lock it. I

1687
01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:03,320
Speaker 1: didn't say that's what they're gonna win. I said, it's

1688
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:09,800
Speaker 1: the ceiling. How do you think they're gonna win? It

1689
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:12,120
Speaker 1: is the first let's get that out there. On Twitter,

1690
01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:17,080
Speaker 1: Tony Vasselli says Jaguars to win eleven games. I said

1691
01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:22,320
Speaker 1: my ceilings. Now I didn't know. The question is what's

1692
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:24,639
Speaker 1: their ceiling? Like, what's the most wins you can see

1693
01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:27,760
Speaker 1: them happen? How many? How many do you think they're

1694
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:31,800
Speaker 1: going to win? How many you think they're going I

1695
01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:34,679
Speaker 1: think it's right there in the middle, seven, eight, somewhere

1696
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:41,360
Speaker 1: in there. Then you're stuffing around wild card one one

1697
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:47,800
Speaker 1: one number, not seven or right? What's your one number? Baby? Hey? Hey, okay?

1698
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:50,559
Speaker 1: And how many do you think they're going to win?

1699
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:54,000
Speaker 1: Do you guys dance around that question? How do I do?

1700
01:33:54,040 --> 01:33:57,040
Speaker 1: It's around it? How many do you think they're going

1701
01:33:57,120 --> 01:34:01,639
Speaker 1: to win? How many do you think that if I

1702
01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:03,439
Speaker 1: if I went through the schedules that a game by

1703
01:34:03,479 --> 01:34:10,000
Speaker 1: game analysis, I think they're gonna win eleven. Yeah, that's

1704
01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:11,840
Speaker 1: one thing we still have to do as well. We

1705
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:14,320
Speaker 1: got Pete, we got to cut the team and we

1706
01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:18,120
Speaker 1: have to go. Please put that out nationally. Nobody will

1707
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Speaker 1: hire you wherever to do a Westwood one games to

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01:34:26,280 --> 01:34:28,439
Speaker 1: it's tongue of cheek. I said the ceiling was ten,

1709
01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:32,599
Speaker 1: and then they're gonna win eleven? What do I think? Um,

1710
01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:34,760
Speaker 1: it was a joke. It was a joke. Um, I

1711
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:41,520
Speaker 1: think they're gonna win. I think they win seven games. Okay,

1712
01:34:45,080 --> 01:34:51,880
Speaker 1: I think they went seven. We'll go around the but

1713
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:55,479
Speaker 1: is that successful? That's a big question. What about around

1714
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Speaker 1: the ANC South. I'll have a book report. Also, we'll

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Speaker 1: I could speak for the corners, we're all kind of

1772
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Speaker 1: the young guys are kind of just their listeners right now.

1773
01:38:41,240 --> 01:38:44,800
Speaker 1: You know, they're trying to soak in anything that you

1774
01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:47,400
Speaker 1: know the other guys could teach them. You can teach him,

1775
01:38:47,479 --> 01:38:50,000
Speaker 1: Coach can teach him. So I haven't really heard too

1776
01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:53,520
Speaker 1: much yet from the from the corner room and their receivers.

1777
01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:55,840
Speaker 1: I feel like they're the same too. I feel like

1778
01:38:55,880 --> 01:38:57,920
Speaker 1: everybody's just kind of like then, just trying to do

1779
01:38:58,000 --> 01:39:01,040
Speaker 1: their job, not too much, you know, talking, But as

1780
01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:03,519
Speaker 1: the year goes on and probably we get into games,

1781
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:09,680
Speaker 1: it'll it'll come out game day. That's Trey Herndon, Jaguar's

1782
01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:14,280
Speaker 1: Corner Back in its third season. Welcome Back, Jaguar's Happy Hour,

1783
01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:18,240
Speaker 1: j P Shatdrick, Pete Prisco, Tony Bosellia, and I would

1784
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:21,240
Speaker 1: say it's a little different feel in that cornerback room

1785
01:39:21,280 --> 01:39:23,519
Speaker 1: from the past couple of years around here. There's no

1786
01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:27,040
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, there's no a J boy A, and uh,

1787
01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:30,640
Speaker 1: it's not loud in that room as of yet. You

1788
01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:32,960
Speaker 1: heard Trey there say maybe when when the lights come on,

1789
01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:35,760
Speaker 1: that will change a little bit. But just walking through

1790
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:38,840
Speaker 1: the door, the environment is much different Pete than it

1791
01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:42,840
Speaker 1: has been in the past around here at cornerback. Well, yeah,

1792
01:39:42,920 --> 01:39:45,479
Speaker 1: I mean it used to be a position of strength

1793
01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:47,479
Speaker 1: and now it's a position of hope. I mean, you

1794
01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:50,719
Speaker 1: hope Henderson can turn into being a number one corner

1795
01:39:50,760 --> 01:39:54,080
Speaker 1: You hope Herndon continues to get better. If they do,

1796
01:39:54,320 --> 01:39:55,960
Speaker 1: then then I think they have a chance to be

1797
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:58,559
Speaker 1: a good group. Heard it proved last year. He could

1798
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:01,799
Speaker 1: be a nice fight the you know, number two corner

1799
01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:04,600
Speaker 1: and he needs to continue to get better. And I

1800
01:40:04,640 --> 01:40:06,960
Speaker 1: think if Henderson can become a number one corner, it

1801
01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:09,200
Speaker 1: can become a good group again. But you know, it's

1802
01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:12,160
Speaker 1: a it's a position of hope. Now whereas when you

1803
01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:15,439
Speaker 1: had Boy and Ramsey, Um, you know, it was a

1804
01:40:15,439 --> 01:40:18,280
Speaker 1: position of strength. It's not that anymore. And so I

1805
01:40:18,320 --> 01:40:22,360
Speaker 1: think that you know, you have to expect some growing

1806
01:40:22,400 --> 01:40:26,920
Speaker 1: pains along the way for both those guys. Yeah, I

1807
01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:28,800
Speaker 1: mean they're young players. I mean that's what I mean,

1808
01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:31,160
Speaker 1: that's what happens to young players. I think that's where

1809
01:40:31,520 --> 01:40:34,720
Speaker 1: you know, if you talk, wasn't it Bill Parcels And

1810
01:40:34,720 --> 01:40:37,280
Speaker 1: I don't want to attribute to the wrong legendary coach

1811
01:40:37,360 --> 01:40:39,320
Speaker 1: coach that says it's you know, it's it's hard to

1812
01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:42,600
Speaker 1: win with rookies. I mean, I mean, historically it is

1813
01:40:42,680 --> 01:40:45,040
Speaker 1: hard to count on and win with rookie Not that

1814
01:40:45,560 --> 01:40:48,519
Speaker 1: it can't happen, but going into the season, you have

1815
01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:51,800
Speaker 1: to expect growing pain and guys to make mistakes. They're

1816
01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:54,679
Speaker 1: learning it. I don't care how good they are, especially

1817
01:40:54,720 --> 01:40:56,759
Speaker 1: when they're surrounded with a lot of other good players,

1818
01:40:56,760 --> 01:40:59,360
Speaker 1: I mean young players. Um, it's one thing if you

1819
01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:01,760
Speaker 1: have a rookie at position surrounded by a lot of

1820
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:03,960
Speaker 1: veterans and you can cover it up. I mean, I'll

1821
01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:06,800
Speaker 1: give me a perfect example. In nine, we had a

1822
01:41:06,880 --> 01:41:09,920
Speaker 1: very good team for Nando Bryant was a rookie starting

1823
01:41:09,920 --> 01:41:12,479
Speaker 1: at corner for that team, but he was surrounded by

1824
01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:16,000
Speaker 1: Carnel Lake, Um, you know, Aaron Beasley. I mean, you

1825
01:41:16,040 --> 01:41:19,519
Speaker 1: had a number of veteran guys on that defense that

1826
01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:22,679
Speaker 1: were around him, and so it made the transition easier.

1827
01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:24,360
Speaker 1: You look at c. J. Henderson, He's gonna be the

1828
01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:28,559
Speaker 1: opposite corner. Trey Herndon is really a second year starter,

1829
01:41:29,080 --> 01:41:31,840
Speaker 1: still a young guy. Now. D J. Hayden helps a lot.

1830
01:41:31,880 --> 01:41:34,320
Speaker 1: He's a veteran guy who's been around the block and

1831
01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:37,240
Speaker 1: is a very good nickel. You look at the to safeties,

1832
01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:40,960
Speaker 1: both young players, both full time starters last year. Um,

1833
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:42,720
Speaker 1: And so that's where you start. You know, I think

1834
01:41:43,040 --> 01:41:45,080
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some ebbs and flows. I think c. J.

1835
01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:47,559
Speaker 1: Henderson will be an outstanding player. You know. I think

1836
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:49,799
Speaker 1: he has the right makeup. I think he's a competitive

1837
01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:52,680
Speaker 1: as heck. You have to be that at that corner position. Um,

1838
01:41:53,439 --> 01:41:56,400
Speaker 1: But I think it's natural. I think peach. Right, Um,

1839
01:41:56,479 --> 01:42:02,320
Speaker 1: it's gonna be natural to expect some growing pains, all right, fellas,

1840
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:06,080
Speaker 1: last week we we promised as we are all at

1841
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Speaker 1: our home sets. Pete Hass behind him on his set.

1842
01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:13,640
Speaker 1: If you're watching on at Jaguars, I'm at home with

1843
01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:16,120
Speaker 1: a bookshelf and things behind me. Tony, where are you

1844
01:42:16,439 --> 01:42:21,320
Speaker 1: this week? Where a padded room somewhere? That's what it

1845
01:42:21,400 --> 01:42:28,360
Speaker 1: looks like. Another undisclosed location. C I a y undisclosed location.

1846
01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:34,439
Speaker 1: The last week, you guys. The point is you guys.

1847
01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:37,040
Speaker 1: Last week I asked that I give a book report

1848
01:42:37,080 --> 01:42:39,640
Speaker 1: on one of these books behind me. And how do

1849
01:42:39,680 --> 01:42:42,960
Speaker 1: you guys want to do this this week? But I

1850
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:46,960
Speaker 1: think Tony's right, though J p JP. I think Tony's right.

1851
01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:49,479
Speaker 1: If the book is on the shelf behind you, you

1852
01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:52,040
Speaker 1: should have read it already. You just read it. Not

1853
01:42:52,240 --> 01:42:55,880
Speaker 1: necessarily true, that's not necessarily true. There are books that

1854
01:42:56,960 --> 01:43:00,320
Speaker 1: you just haven't gotten to yet. All right around. Go

1855
01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:02,360
Speaker 1: to the second level of your bookshelf. I'm gonna tell

1856
01:43:02,360 --> 01:43:05,400
Speaker 1: you which book to pick. Okay, Okay, you're gonna go.

1857
01:43:06,200 --> 01:43:08,800
Speaker 1: You're gonna go to the one right in the middle.

1858
01:43:09,160 --> 01:43:12,360
Speaker 1: It's green with big white lettering. Yep, that one right there.

1859
01:43:15,160 --> 01:43:20,559
Speaker 1: It's probably a money was eight football great writing about

1860
01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:23,479
Speaker 1: the national sport right up, Pete Prisco's alley. It's a

1861
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:27,080
Speaker 1: number of different articles over the years. That's not that's

1862
01:43:27,200 --> 01:43:29,479
Speaker 1: like little bits and Pete. That's not a book. That's

1863
01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:34,400
Speaker 1: like all I'm telling you exactly what it is you

1864
01:43:34,439 --> 01:43:36,360
Speaker 1: want to report in the book or not, Pete. It's

1865
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:40,599
Speaker 1: short stories or newspaper stories. Great writing about the support

1866
01:43:40,640 --> 01:43:43,840
Speaker 1: of football over the years. Newspaper articles. You read the

1867
01:43:43,920 --> 01:43:48,000
Speaker 1: cover and let you just spit off your mouth, your chin.

1868
01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:53,720
Speaker 1: That's that's that's a terrible that's not a that's like

1869
01:43:54,120 --> 01:43:56,920
Speaker 1: a put together book of all stories. That's not a book.

1870
01:43:58,080 --> 01:44:02,680
Speaker 1: Shelf forget that one. That's like CagA, just grab one,

1871
01:44:02,960 --> 01:44:05,080
Speaker 1: just grab the one to the far right, no matter

1872
01:44:05,160 --> 01:44:09,000
Speaker 1: what it is. Second shelf right, that shelf far right,

1873
01:44:09,040 --> 01:44:12,880
Speaker 1: whatever that is, pull it out. Baseball in Birmingham. It's

1874
01:44:12,920 --> 01:44:20,080
Speaker 1: a photo book. In fact, mainly one book on there

1875
01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:26,840
Speaker 1: that he can read. Well, JP, you put one of

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Speaker 1: all short stories and articles and one's a picture book.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a book on there that you actually

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Speaker 1: can read from cover? Here's one. I got one here,

1879
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Speaker 1: This is one I got in college. It's by Red Barber.

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Speaker 1: It's called the Broadcasters, a great baseball broadcaster of the Red's,

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Speaker 1: Baseball's Hall of Fame and seventy eight. And it goes

1884
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Speaker 1: through his career um starting at the University of Florida

1885
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Speaker 1: and then getting to the big leagues in Cincinnati, move

1886
01:45:00,200 --> 01:45:03,439
Speaker 1: up to the Dodgers. He has some great articles, are

1887
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Speaker 1: has some great chapters in here about some of the

1888
01:45:06,880 --> 01:45:10,479
Speaker 1: big years and moments in Dodgers history, including that seven

1889
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1890
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1894
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Speaker 1: working with Mel Allen. Great book about his career, and

1895
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Speaker 1: it goes into a lot of the detail of broadcasting

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Speaker 1: I never read the book, and I don't even know

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Speaker 1: who you're talking about. Tell me, what are you asking

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Speaker 1: me to do that I just gave you. I trust you.

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Speaker 1: My question is this, and then we can end this

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Speaker 1: terrible idea of a segment that I came up with. Um,

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Speaker 1: what is the one what's the number one takeaway from

1904
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Speaker 1: that book that you learned reading about Red Barber? I

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Speaker 1: think his name was Yeah, what was his name? Tony? Um?

1906
01:46:08,200 --> 01:46:10,479
Speaker 1: You know when I first got the book was in college.

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Speaker 1: So you're trying to learn how to do number one takeaway?

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Speaker 1: I don't mean just it's very simple. So like, what's like,

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Speaker 1: you know what? I read this book and I learned

1910
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Speaker 1: You can't just show up in the in the box,

1912
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Speaker 1: you know. It's the other question is is there anything

1913
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Speaker 1: on that shelf that's not a sports book? I've got

1914
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Speaker 1: World War two on the air, which is um, okay again,

1915
01:46:41,080 --> 01:46:45,479
Speaker 1: it's a radio report, broadcasting, it's a broadcasting book, radio book.

1916
01:46:45,960 --> 01:46:50,200
Speaker 1: They're all broadcast radio or sports. So basically, have we

1917
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Speaker 1: met Pete that you live in a cocoon? Expand expand

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Speaker 1: your rising. We're gonna end this segment. That's a terrible

1919
01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:08,280
Speaker 1: idea of a segment, Tony, I must say one was

1920
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Speaker 1: a picture book, one was a short story book, and

1921
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Speaker 1: the other one with Red Barber. If we had coloring books,

1922
01:47:14,360 --> 01:47:19,120
Speaker 1: Tony would be interested. Um, did you have any idea

1923
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1924
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Speaker 1: Jaguar's Happy Hour, j P, Shadrick Priscoe, Tony Boselli. Good

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Speaker 1: to hear from Calevan today. Um, let's go j jump

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Speaker 1: before we go. I can't wait to hear what you're

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Speaker 1: going to say. What No, It hit me and we're

1993
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Speaker 1: listening to cable on Chason Speak. Um. One of the

1994
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Speaker 1: disappoints from me, amongst many in this COVID pandemic situation

1995
01:51:58,840 --> 01:52:00,599
Speaker 1: we have, is not getting to know the guys at all,

1996
01:52:01,479 --> 01:52:04,080
Speaker 1: because usually we'll be a camp, you're talking to them,

1997
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Speaker 1: you're around him, and we traveled with them on the road. Um,

1998
01:52:09,080 --> 01:52:11,840
Speaker 1: and that's not you know, that's not happening. And so

1999
01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:14,240
Speaker 1: it's gonna it's almost gonna be like this whole year.

2000
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Speaker 1: There's gonna be a whole class of guys that hopefully

2001
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Speaker 1: we're back to some normality next year, we're back around

2002
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Speaker 1: the team doing stuff and not all you know, kind

2003
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Speaker 1: of remotely like we are right now. We're had a

2004
01:52:28,760 --> 01:52:31,400
Speaker 1: lot of guys to get to know because this is

2005
01:52:31,560 --> 01:52:35,000
Speaker 1: this whole rookie class. I mean JP, I mean you

2006
01:52:35,080 --> 01:52:37,240
Speaker 1: haven't even been around him, I mean nobody has outside

2007
01:52:37,240 --> 01:52:42,800
Speaker 1: of the Coast Scout. No occasional video conference, that's about it.

2008
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Speaker 1: What about games? Are you gonna be doing games from

2009
01:52:45,320 --> 01:52:50,240
Speaker 1: the studio? I think we're still discussing that j JP

2010
01:52:50,439 --> 01:52:52,720
Speaker 1: might have the latest there. We're still discussing how we're

2011
01:52:52,720 --> 01:52:54,800
Speaker 1: gonna be doing it and everything else. So that's all

2012
01:52:54,880 --> 01:52:58,360
Speaker 1: in flux as we try to figure out how both

2013
01:52:58,400 --> 01:53:00,960
Speaker 1: for the Jaguars and also for me waiting for Westwood One,

2014
01:53:01,000 --> 01:53:02,479
Speaker 1: kind of how we're gonna handle that. I don't think

2015
01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:05,559
Speaker 1: the final decision has been made, um, and so yeah,

2016
01:53:05,600 --> 01:53:07,639
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a whole another things that we're gonna

2017
01:53:07,640 --> 01:53:10,680
Speaker 1: have to deal with. It's just weird. It's weird. It's

2018
01:53:11,000 --> 01:53:12,840
Speaker 1: I mean, like i'd be out for thirty days now

2019
01:53:12,920 --> 01:53:15,240
Speaker 1: and I'm nowhere and I can't I can't go talk

2020
01:53:15,280 --> 01:53:17,800
Speaker 1: to guys, can't go see new guys, can't go. So

2021
01:53:17,880 --> 01:53:20,120
Speaker 1: I text guys and say say, Okay, this guy's playing well,

2022
01:53:20,200 --> 01:53:22,760
Speaker 1: this guy's playing well. It's not the same. You're right,

2023
01:53:22,800 --> 01:53:25,320
Speaker 1: you can't get the no, guys, it's it's it's different,

2024
01:53:25,360 --> 01:53:27,400
Speaker 1: there's no question about it. But look, as long as

2025
01:53:27,439 --> 01:53:30,000
Speaker 1: we have a season, whatever way it works out, we'll

2026
01:53:30,040 --> 01:53:32,600
Speaker 1: all be happy for it. Yeah, we'll be happy. But

2027
01:53:32,640 --> 01:53:34,280
Speaker 1: it's still it's still one of the things that I

2028
01:53:34,400 --> 01:53:39,040
Speaker 1: miss because I love I mean coming football for me, um,

2029
01:53:39,720 --> 01:53:42,080
Speaker 1: and like doing when the Thursday nights for Westwood one.

2030
01:53:42,120 --> 01:53:45,200
Speaker 1: And it's not just you know, it's not gonna be

2031
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Speaker 1: paid to play talk about football. That's nice, don't get

2032
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Speaker 1: me wrong, Um, But part of the joy of the

2033
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Speaker 1: be being a part of the Januars organization and doing

2034
01:53:53,280 --> 01:53:56,000
Speaker 1: games like that, and then also for West One is

2035
01:53:56,040 --> 01:53:58,680
Speaker 1: being around the game and being around the guys and

2036
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Speaker 1: on the field before end and you know, getting nuggets

2037
01:54:02,280 --> 01:54:05,800
Speaker 1: and talking to him and learning and sharing my experiences

2038
01:54:05,840 --> 01:54:08,840
Speaker 1: with them. And none of that's gonna happen this year, um,

2039
01:54:09,400 --> 01:54:12,720
Speaker 1: because even if we are traveling, I mean, because of

2040
01:54:12,800 --> 01:54:14,599
Speaker 1: the tiered approach and how they have the different tiers

2041
01:54:14,640 --> 01:54:16,200
Speaker 1: for the players, not like we're gonna be allowed on

2042
01:54:16,240 --> 01:54:19,040
Speaker 1: the field to go talk to him before the game. Um,

2043
01:54:19,640 --> 01:54:21,800
Speaker 1: I'll miss that, And that's one of the big disappointment

2044
01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:25,840
Speaker 1: disappointments for me in this COVID world we live in

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Speaker 1: right now. You won't miss the cold of Kansas City

2046
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Speaker 1: the last time we were on the field, but I'll

2047
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Speaker 1: miss it. That was great. I mean that like that's experience,

2048
01:54:36,320 --> 01:54:38,760
Speaker 1: and I mean that's but but Pete, you're right, like

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Speaker 1: you couldn't You couldn't have written as well about that

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Speaker 1: Chiefs fans were going to the super Bowl for the

2054
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Speaker 1: first time in fifty years. I mean, like that down

2055
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Speaker 1: on the field after the game with our microphone, getting

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2057
01:55:04,440 --> 01:55:07,640
Speaker 1: you can't experience it if unless you're not there. Yeah,

2058
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Speaker 1: and that we would. Was it that week where you

2059
01:55:11,120 --> 01:55:14,360
Speaker 1: were in the parking lot pregame chattering with snow blowing

2060
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Speaker 1: or was that a different week that was the week before?

2061
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Speaker 1: Actually that was the week before. Yeah, there was no

2062
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Speaker 1: snow that week. Remember, Tony was just cold. It was

2063
01:55:23,640 --> 01:55:29,000
Speaker 1: bitter cold. That was. That was as cold as the

2064
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Speaker 1: Packers Giants playoff game for me, and then the playoff

2065
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Speaker 1: game in New England when the Titans played there, and

2066
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2067
01:55:38,200 --> 01:55:43,400
Speaker 1: was pretty cold too. Yeah. Let's touch on a few nuggets.

2068
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Speaker 1: Let's touch on a few nuggets around the National Football League.

2069
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Speaker 1: Safety Earl Thomas released by the Ravens and an announcement saying, quote,

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Speaker 1: we've terminated safety Earld Thomas's contract for personal conduct that

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01:55:58,440 --> 01:56:02,920
Speaker 1: has adversely affect did the Baltimore Ravens end quote he

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Speaker 1: was going to make a fully guaranteed ten million dollars

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01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:09,120
Speaker 1: salary even without this year's salary. If they can get

2074
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Speaker 1: that money, it'll leave him with twenty two million dollars

2075
01:56:12,480 --> 01:56:16,280
Speaker 1: for one year of service. Pete, Well, there was a

2076
01:56:16,400 --> 01:56:19,000
Speaker 1: fight in practice, he missed a couple of assignments, and

2077
01:56:19,240 --> 01:56:21,480
Speaker 1: and Chuck Clark was a young safety, was played really

2078
01:56:21,560 --> 01:56:23,400
Speaker 1: well for him last year, got into it with him.

2079
01:56:23,600 --> 01:56:25,839
Speaker 1: But it was more than that. It was late for meetings.

2080
01:56:25,920 --> 01:56:29,560
Speaker 1: He I heard, he was missed a walk through, wasn't

2081
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Speaker 1: as focused as he should have been, and he hasn't

2082
01:56:31,600 --> 01:56:34,040
Speaker 1: been a great teammate. And and the players, the leadership

2083
01:56:34,080 --> 01:56:36,560
Speaker 1: counsel said, look, we sign with Chuck, get him out

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Speaker 1: of here, and they did. I'm okay with that. By

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Speaker 1: the way, you don't see people knocking down the door

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Speaker 1: to go sign him, do you. Well. I read a

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Speaker 1: report today Pete that he missed a meeting because he

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Speaker 1: said he had to get his car washed right, and

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Speaker 1: and he missed a walk through. I mean, it'll look

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Speaker 1: now the question is the question is is you'll see it.

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Speaker 1: You're you're gonna see a he's gonna file a what's

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Speaker 1: it called the grievance. Yeah, he's a file of grievance because, um,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna take the ten million that is guaranteed. Because

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Speaker 1: the key phrase in that statement you read JP as

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Speaker 1: they felt like it was conduct detrimental, which gives the

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Speaker 1: team the ability to cut a player in waive any

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Speaker 1: guaranteed money guarantee you Earl Thomas and his representatives will

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Speaker 1: fight that. Yeah, here's the other of the question. He'll

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Speaker 1: sign a deal. He's not gonna get a ten million

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Speaker 1: dollar ye year deal from Anybody's gonna get an incentive

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Speaker 1: laden deal for a year from somebody, maybe the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: NFL commissioner Roger Gonell made an appearance on the YouTube

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Speaker 1: series Uncomfortable Conversations with a Black Man, and he said

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Speaker 1: that he wishes the NFL quote had listened earlier. In

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Speaker 1: quote to Cullen Kaepernick regarding why he began kneeling in

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Speaker 1: two sixteen, Pete, what do you make of the commissioners

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Speaker 1: appearance here? Well, why didn't he say that before? Then? Yep, yep,

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Speaker 1: you have plenty of time to say it, and now

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden he says it. Look, Karlin Kaepernick

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Speaker 1: had issues, don't get me wrong, as a player that

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Speaker 1: you know, that's part of the reason why some teams

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Speaker 1: didn't sign up. But he should have been in the

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Speaker 1: league period, end of story. Should have been a backup

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Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL. At the worst case scenario, he didn't.

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Speaker 1: Some teams offer him a chance to be a backup

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Speaker 1: and he said he didn't want to. I'm thinking, um, well,

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Speaker 1: I know he turned out a d O Denver early

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Speaker 1: after he got cut right away, but never that was

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Speaker 1: actually the year before. Remember they were going to go

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Speaker 1: make a move for him and sign him and he

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Speaker 1: didn't want Yeah, and then Seattle inquired about it. There

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Speaker 1: is also talking how much did he love it? I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Um, yeah, I mean is count is Colin

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Speaker 1: Kaepernick one of the most UH sixty top sixty four

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Speaker 1: talented quarterbacks in this league? I would say, yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: about it, doubt yes, absolutely if you based it, If

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Speaker 1: you base it around just that, then I would feet

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Speaker 1: he should have been on a team. Unfortunate only Um,

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Speaker 1: A lot of things go into um and I'm not

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Speaker 1: even speaking just to the callin Kaepernick situation. But if

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Speaker 1: you look at why guys get signed, it don't get

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Speaker 1: signed like I guarantee you. Earl Thomas is probably one

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Speaker 1: of the best thirty two safeties in the NFL. And

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Speaker 1: there's a bunch of teams in Kaepernick. Kaepernick wasn't loved

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Speaker 1: in his locker room. I can tell you that one.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying Kaepernick did anything wrong like Earl

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Speaker 1: Thomas dies. I'm just saying there's always a lot of

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Speaker 1: things that go into whether team signs and player or not. Obviously, um,

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Speaker 1: the social injustice that Caled Kaepernick has stood for is

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Speaker 1: frond and center right now, and it's a conversation that

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Speaker 1: needs to be happy, needs to be had. Tony was silly,

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Speaker 1: Pete Frisco, I'm j P. Shadrick. No more book reports.

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