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Speaker 2: One more thing, one more thing.

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Speaker 3: Before we get to Jesus, which is I hear people

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Speaker 3: people forget the reason for the season, or whatever, And

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Speaker 3: in my house, the reason for the season is gift giving.

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Speaker 3: It's just that's what it is. Gets talking eat, we

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Speaker 2: And I'm judging you harshly.

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Speaker 3: I wish, I wish it wasn't that way. I'm in

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Speaker 3: control of it not being that way. Yet it's not

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Speaker 3: that way. So I don't even know what to say

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Speaker 3: about that. But it's not. We're not We don't have

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Speaker 3: a Jesus Christmas at our house. I had a slightly

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Speaker 3: lot of uh, Nativity scenes. Yeah yeah, all kinds of

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Speaker 3: just in general, my household is not much but so

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Speaker 3: because of that, and since it's all gift receiving based

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Speaker 3: regularly think about how much when I was a kid,

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Speaker 2: It's probably just part of the human condition.

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Speaker 3: Why looking forward to things so much, even though time

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Speaker 3: Other than sex, I can't think of anything that's ever

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Speaker 2: Agreed on both counts.

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Speaker 1: And well, and what's interesting is it works for negative

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Speaker 1: there are exceptions to this. You spend you know, you know,

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Speaker 3: But my kids have things they're really looking forward to

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Speaker 3: But I did the same thing my whole life, and

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm not in a mental institution or jobless

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Speaker 3: it's just part of the human condition looking forward to

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Speaker 4: It's like we mentioned yesterday during the headline segment, the

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Speaker 3: Oh, oh, oh, I got a good test for my

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Speaker 3: but we had we made it very clear to agreement,

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Speaker 3: myself in my life, and we'll see how that feels

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Speaker 3: on the day of the birthday and Christmas morning. I

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Speaker 3: did make a shadow box that I'm giving him that's

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Speaker 3: So he's got something he can hang on his wall

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Speaker 1: It's also going to suggest a rolled up xerox copy

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Speaker 2: That's what I would do. It is.

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Speaker 3: It is also just a nudge and remember the concert.

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Speaker 3: Huh see you remember that right, that whole conversation without

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Speaker 4: Birthday I'm giving you and Christmas that happened a couple

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Speaker 1: You'd like to view the contract. I can remind you

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Speaker 3: We'll see how that works out.

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Speaker 4: When you said Jesus is the reason for this season,

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Speaker 2: But that was the idea.

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Speaker 4: And one here I don't know if they were drunk

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Speaker 4: And I just I remember I looked at my mom.

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Speaker 3: I was like, how did he do? You didn't look

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Speaker 2: You didn't proof free Giant's backyard sign.

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Speaker 3: I wonder how many way would this hold him? Like, hey,

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Speaker 2: Wow? Wow, So this is a charming tale.

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Speaker 1: Bob Sagers was walking around an indie music festival in

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Speaker 2: The man asked, Wow, okay.

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Speaker 1: At that point, the twenty five year old Sagar, who

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Speaker 2: Want to grow up to be a cheesemonger.

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Speaker 3: you call that wine cheese cheese?

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, Actually, a delicious cheese is one of

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Speaker 2: Young men.

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Speaker 3: Maier is a much cooler name than cheesemonger. Though, No,

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Speaker 3: it's not cheese manger. Sounds like you you clean out

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Speaker 2: Just cheese. Who wants cheese? Who wants cheese? We've got

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Speaker 3: It's like the wines, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: The whole you know, the twenty seven word description of

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Speaker 2: Palate with bramble, bowdies and earth and granite.

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Speaker 3: And all I wanted to say is, how do you

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Speaker 1: Anyway, So the guy who asked him about the Jesus

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Speaker 1: wife was an artist looking for religious models. This guy

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Speaker 3: So the person who walked up to him pictures Jesus

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Speaker 1: And I've seen renderings of what Jesus would look like,

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Speaker 2: Anyway.

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Speaker 1: People models who look like Jesus are in whatever that means,

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Speaker 3: Wow. No, what do you have him stand between? You're

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, God, So like models are showing up to

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, when you say you walk with Jesus, you

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Speaker 2: That's closer to what you guys were talking about.

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Speaker 1: So since being recruited about four years ago, tall mister

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Speaker 3: Wow, if you happen to look like Jesus, yeah, or

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Speaker 2: In the popular conception of Jesus.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now, the job, but can be freighted with meaning

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Speaker 3: Wow, that is interesting. I could see doing that. But

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Speaker 1: The one guy comments or mentioned that, look, I got

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Speaker 3: Is there anything you can do?

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Speaker 2: No? No, nothing. Can you walk across shove them into

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw on jeans and my Armstrong and Geeddy

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Speaker 1: T shirt in about five minutes, So lighting up.

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Speaker 3: That is something.

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Speaker 1: See Areas of Utah with high concentrations of Mormons call

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Speaker 1: themselves Latter day Saint Sir Elidas, tend to lack potential

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Speaker 1: Jesus doppelgangers because men who volunteer for the church are

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Speaker 1: required to shave every day and keep their hair short.

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Speaker 1: So if you're looking for a quote unquote Jesus doppelganger,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to go out to Park City or something.

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Speaker 1: Find a nice Cheesemongol on get down.

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Speaker 2: The Street.

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Speaker 3: Picturing Jesus on the high dive. Well, I guess that's it.

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Speaker 3: That's a pretty good story.