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Speaker 1: I mean, we we're just talking here. And Mary Trump tweeting,
Speaker 1: not only is Stuart's both sides are the same. Rhetoric
Speaker 1: not funny. It's a potential disaster for democracy.
Speaker 3: Joe, it was just one Joe.
Speaker 1: It's twenty minutes.
Speaker 4: I did twenty minutes of one Joe. But I guess,
Speaker 4: as the famous saying goes, democracy dies in discussion.
Speaker 1: But look, I have seen against you. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: It was never my intention to say out loud what
Speaker 4: I saw with my eyes and then brain, I can
Speaker 4: do better.
Speaker 1: I can have learning. I can have it, but I
Speaker 1: don't even know where to start with that.
Speaker 4: Where do I go to study the particulars of unquestioning propaganda?
Speaker 4: I would need mentorship, We're in Moscow tonight.
Speaker 6: We're here to interview the President of Russia, Vladimir Putin.
Speaker 1: Saints be praised.
Speaker 4: For Professor to Tucker, Aloisious Mayflower, Tenny bumps port, Backgammon.
Speaker 1: Carlson the third has arrived.
Speaker 4: Professor, Tell me what is step one in delivering world
Speaker 4: class fealty to power.
Speaker 6: Here's why we're doing it first, because it's our job.
Speaker 1: We're in journalism. Lie about what your job is. We're
Speaker 1: in journalism. Our duty is to inform people. Lie about
Speaker 1: what your duty.
Speaker 3: Is.
Speaker 6: Americans have a right to know all they can about
Speaker 6: a war. They're implicated in Freedom to speech is our birthright.
Speaker 1: We were born with the right to say what we believe.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, who knows? Sensey, that was deep. I have
Speaker 1: much to learn.
Speaker 4: Disguise your deception and capitulation to power as noble and
Speaker 4: moral and based in freedom.
Speaker 3: Yes, massed.
Speaker 1: Just out of curiosity as a student.
Speaker 4: When you're sitting there interviewing Putin and you don't plan
Speaker 4: to challenge his utter bullshit, but you don't want to
Speaker 4: really be that obvious.
Speaker 1: What do you do with your face? Oh? I see, okay.
Speaker 4: So it's not really a straight face, as much as
Speaker 4: you try to convey a mixture of what appears to
Speaker 4: be shame arousal and I'm going to say irregularity, for instance,
Speaker 4: like you're constipated while jerking off to a serious catalog.
Speaker 1: Been there, we die up there? Well, the lingerie ads were.
Speaker 4: Now obviously the Tucker strategy is going to work when
Speaker 4: there's some ambiguity in.
Speaker 1: What Putin says.
Speaker 4: But what if Putin starts saying shit like World War
Speaker 4: II was Poland's fault because they forced Hitler to invade them.
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you do with something like that?
Speaker 7: They'll give me hard After World War well, this territory
Speaker 7: was transferred to Poland, and instead of Danzig, a city
Speaker 7: of Dunsk emerged. Mister Hitler asked them to give it
Speaker 7: Anneka lead, but they refused.
Speaker 1: Of course.
Speaker 4: Of course, you know, it's so hard to do when
Speaker 4: your face says what the fuck and your mouth says,
Speaker 4: of course, it's it's.
Speaker 1: So hard to how do you? All right? How do
Speaker 1: you do that? By the way, Poland started World War Two?
Speaker 4: Why would a country whose navy has submarines with screen doors.
Speaker 1: Want to instigate a war? Quick history lessons years ago?
Speaker 4: For reasons nobody is really sure of A stereotype emerged
Speaker 4: that Polish people were inept in various ways, including obviously
Speaker 4: submarine manufacturing and.
Speaker 1: Even something as simple as the changing of a light bulb.
Speaker 4: I don't know actually how many Polish people you think
Speaker 4: it takes to change a light bulb, but it's certainly
Speaker 4: less than the conventional wisdom at that time would tell you.
Speaker 4: Now we know that Polish people are as smart as anyone,
Speaker 4: and certainly did not deserve to be invaded by the Germans, who,
Speaker 4: of course accomplished that by marching in backwards.
Speaker 1: So the polls thought they were leaving.
Speaker 8: Well, I like to give you a little bit of dumb.
Speaker 4: Well, this has been an incredible primmer into the delegate
Speaker 4: dance of speaking, of course to power tummy Tucker, does
Speaker 4: this masterclass include field trips?
Speaker 1: How does Russia have a subway station?
Speaker 9: The normal people used to get to work at home
Speaker 9: every single day. That's nicer than anything in our country.
Speaker 9: There's no graffiti, there's no filth, no foul smells.
Speaker 1: That's a nice subway. That's a very.
Speaker 4: Although to be fair to the New York City system,
Speaker 4: it was constructed in nineteen oh four out of urinalcakes.
Speaker 1: By the great engineer Josette, piss everywhere.
Speaker 4: Before taking It's a very nice subway, But the subway,
Speaker 4: that's only one thing.
Speaker 9: So we thought it'd be interesting to take a look
Speaker 9: at a contemporary modern day twenty twenty four Russian grocery store.
Speaker 1: Go on, all right, here we go.
Speaker 6: So I guess you put in ten roubles here and
Speaker 6: you get it back when you put the card back.
Speaker 6: So it's free, but there's an incentive to return it
Speaker 6: and not just bring it to your homeless en Camra,
Speaker 6: I know.
Speaker 1: I've said this before. You're such a dick.
Speaker 3: I really truly a dick.
Speaker 4: I didn't realize America's homeless problem is caused entirely by
Speaker 4: easy access to grocery card. I had on my top
Speaker 4: of my house, but I don't know that you put
Speaker 4: it on wheels.
Speaker 1: It's so much.
Speaker 6: This is the uh, grocery card escalator.
Speaker 1: This is designed.
Speaker 10: I'm figuring this out now.
Speaker 6: Where the wheels don't move, they lock on the grocery
Speaker 6: card escalator.
Speaker 1: Look mad, no hands? Oh oh okay, okay, forrest.
Speaker 4: An escalator for the grocery cart and the doors open automatically.
Speaker 1: Oh marvel Russia, and Russia is famous for its bread.
Speaker 6: There's one thing I could assess pretty well.
Speaker 10: Look at that.
Speaker 1: It's fresh too, Look at that. Come on, yeah, this
Speaker 1: guy really likes bread.
Speaker 4: I hate to think what would have happened if he
Speaker 4: had found a bagel. But hey, if being a free
Speaker 4: speech warrior means you have to bang the occasional sour doughtah,
Speaker 4: but our time is limited, could you drive home the
Speaker 4: purpose of your deception on this trip in the most
Speaker 4: cynical way possible.
Speaker 1: Please.
Speaker 9: We didn't pay any attention to cost, as we were
Speaker 9: just putting in the car where we would actually eat
Speaker 9: over a week, and we all came in around four
Speaker 9: hundred bucks.
Speaker 1: About four hundred bucks.
Speaker 9: It was one hundred and four dollars US here and
Speaker 9: coming to a Russian grocery store the heart of evil
Speaker 9: and seeing what things cost and how people live.
Speaker 1: It will radicalize you against our readers. That's how I
Speaker 1: feel anyway.
Speaker 4: Radicalized, radicalized, and it will radicalize you unless you understand
Speaker 4: basic economics.
Speaker 1: See one hundred and four dollars for groceries.
Speaker 4: Sounds like a great bargain unless you realize Russians earn
Speaker 4: less than two hundred dollars a week.
Speaker 1: But that's the kind of context that a what did
Speaker 1: you call yourself? Earlier?
Speaker 4: A journalist would have provided. But here's the reality. You
Speaker 4: know all this because you aren't as dumb as your
Speaker 4: face would have us believe. Perhaps if your handlers had allowed,
Speaker 4: you would have seen there is a hidden fee to
Speaker 4: your cheap groceries and orderly streets. Ask Alexi Navalni or
Speaker 4: any of his supporters.
Speaker 10: The Vladimir Putin's Russia political repression is everywhere, and hundreds
Speaker 10: have been arrested.
Speaker 1: For daring to honor Navalny so publicly.
Speaker 4: Right, because the difference between our urinal, caked, chaotic subways
Speaker 4: and your candelabra beautiful subways is the literal price of freedom.
Speaker 1: But the goal that Carlson and his.
Speaker 4: Ilk are pushing is that there's really no difference between
Speaker 4: our systems.
Speaker 1: In fact, theirs might be a little bit better. The
Speaker 1: question is why why is Tucker doing this? Here's why.
Speaker 4: It's because the old civilizational battle was communism versus capitalism.
Speaker 4: That what drove the world since World War II. Russia
Speaker 4: was the enemy then, but now they think the battle
Speaker 4: is woke versus unwoke, and in that fight. Putin is
Speaker 4: an ally to the right, he's their friend. Unfortunately, he
Speaker 4: is also a brutal and ruthless dictator, so now they
Speaker 4: have to make Americans a little more comfortable with that.
Speaker 4: I mean, liberty is nice, but have you seen Russia's
Speaker 4: shopping carts? And Tucker would have gotten away with it
Speaker 4: if it weren't for those meddling assassins.
Speaker 11: In a statement to The New York Times, Carlson said, quote,
Speaker 11: it is horrifying what happened to Mavalney.
Speaker 10: The whole thing is barbaric and awful.
Speaker 1: No decent person would defend it correct, No decent person would.
Speaker 1: For more, please.
Speaker 4: Enjoy your CD For more on Tucker Carlton's interview with Hulton,
Speaker 4: we turned to our.
Speaker 1: Own Michael Costa.
Speaker 4: Michael Help, Michael Hurtabar. What an unbelievably embarrassing display of
Speaker 4: sycophancy from Tucker Carlson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm not sure what.
Speaker 2: That means, John, So I'm gonna assume you loved it
Speaker 2: as much as I did. It made me think that
Speaker 2: these dictatorships have gotten a bad rap, which is why
Speaker 2: I've traveled here to North Korea.
Speaker 1: And as you can see, it's amazing. It looks like
Speaker 1: you're in a candy store.
Speaker 2: Well I am, but this is what the entire country
Speaker 2: looks like. I'm told it's a paradise of chocolate bars
Speaker 2: and sugar canes. I mean, John, check this out. This
Speaker 2: bucket of gummy here in Pyongyang. It costs a nickel.
Speaker 2: Do you don't have any idea how much this would
Speaker 2: cost me in the so called United States.
Speaker 1: I don't like twenty bucks, I guess, is it?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah?
Speaker 2: And who can afford that besides capitalistic American pedophiles.
Speaker 1: Okay, and just.
Speaker 2: Look at the technology they have here, John, check out
Speaker 2: this amazing contraption you.
Speaker 1: Put Okay, you put a quarter and look what comes out?
Speaker 1: A gumball.
Speaker 2: Oh death to America.
Speaker 1: John. You need to come home, Michael.
Speaker 2: Well, I'd like to, John, but unfortunately I renounced my
Speaker 2: citizenship in exchange for these gummy worms. Now, look, they
Speaker 2: made them sour on the outside and on the inside
Speaker 2: they're sweet. And until America comes up with that, all right,
Speaker 2: how do we say good by in our language?
Speaker 1: Michael Costa?
Speaker 4: Everybody when we come back wanting to marry, and Kate
Speaker 4: Shaw will be joining me.
Speaker 3: Don't go away.
Speaker 1: Hi, everybody love do the Dary Show My guests tonight. Oh,
Speaker 1: I love them so much.
Speaker 4: They're law professors and constitutional experts, elitist who co hosts
Speaker 4: a podcast about the Supreme Court called Strict Scrutiny. Please
Speaker 4: welcome to the program.
Speaker 12: Melissa Murray and Kate Shaw play.
Speaker 3: Now, let me first a reading a pall.
Speaker 4: So you have a third Leah Littman, who couldn't be
Speaker 4: here because of the delicate configurations of our desk. We
Speaker 4: would have loved to have Leah be here as well,
Speaker 4: but she's in California, and so I didn't want to
Speaker 4: let that pass.
Speaker 1: I want to start with you, guys. This is a
Speaker 1: simple question.
Speaker 4: John Oliver has offered Clarence Thomas a Winnebago and a
Speaker 4: million dollars a year two and this is his words,
Speaker 4: not mine, get them off the Supreme Court. Will in
Speaker 4: your court watchers, your experts on the Super Court, will
Speaker 4: he accept this offer?
Speaker 11: I think this is a Harlan Crowe counter offer opportunity.
Speaker 4: You believe that his benefactor is going to have to
Speaker 4: counter But what do you counter with? It's a beautiful
Speaker 4: Winnebago and a million dollars year. Is there anything else
Speaker 4: to life, not.
Speaker 11: If you enjoy spending time in the parking lots of Walmart,
Speaker 11: as Justice Thomas.
Speaker 1: Wanted to do.
Speaker 4: He says he does, but apparently he likes to quail
Speaker 4: hunt in a robe. I want to ask you, there's
Speaker 4: a strategy that's starting to bubble up, which is getting
Speaker 4: Americans comfortable with authoritarianism and getting us to not think
Speaker 4: critically about the differences between a free society and not
Speaker 4: a free society. And in that regard, they are starting
Speaker 4: to paint Trump as Navalny, that the trials that he
Speaker 4: is facing in America are similar or the same as
Speaker 4: what Putin did to Navalney. Please explain to me why
Speaker 4: that's horseshit.
Speaker 11: Well, we are not experts in Russian criminal procedure, but
Speaker 11: I think it's safe to say that Donald Trump is
Speaker 11: likely receiving more procedural protections right now in the four
Speaker 11: criminal indictments that he's currently subject to than Alexei Navalny
Speaker 11: had in his time in Russia. So I think this
Speaker 11: is not the same situation.
Speaker 4: Would you say that Donald Trump was actually received duer
Speaker 4: process than most people in America? I mean, this guy
Speaker 4: is clearly on the platinum do process plan, the Harland
Speaker 4: pro plan. He's getting every the duist of process, the
Speaker 4: newest pross.
Speaker 1: So how is this even comparable. It's not at all comparable.
Speaker 13: And I do think it is interesting, as your last
Speaker 13: segment made clear that Trump is adverting to the situation
Speaker 13: in Russia right now and invoking Navolney, and I think
Speaker 13: that it's right to draw comparisons right now. But of
Speaker 13: course the casting is all wrong right now. In the
Speaker 13: arguments that Trump is making in some of the pending
Speaker 13: criminal cases against him, he is essentially casting himself as
Speaker 13: above and beyond the law. And you know, we're essentially
Speaker 13: seeing what he.
Speaker 4: State presidents should have complete and total immunity, because if
Speaker 4: you can't kill people, then what fun Well, this was actually.
Speaker 13: A hypothetical that came up in the lower federal court
Speaker 13: argument in this immunity case. Trump's lawyer was asked, so,
Speaker 13: you're saying that a president could order Seal Team six
Speaker 13: to assassinate a political rival and the criminal law couldn't
Speaker 13: get him for.
Speaker 1: That sounds familiar?
Speaker 13: Well, it was, and Trump's lawyer basically said, unless he's
Speaker 13: been impeached and convicted for the criminal.
Speaker 4: Laws by the Senate in a political process. So you
Speaker 4: have to get our criminal laws are suspended for the president.
Speaker 4: Didn't we fight a war about that?
Speaker 11: Well, we not only fought a war, but our whole
Speaker 11: constitutional structure is designed to prevent consolidations of power within
Speaker 11: the presidency exactly. And so this whole idea you've got
Speaker 11: an a in our constitutional law.
Speaker 1: Lives is John con law.
Speaker 11: But I mean what Kate is describing is essentially very
Speaker 11: authoritarian forward. I mean, the person that Donald Trump is
Speaker 11: is not Alexey Navali.
Speaker 1: It's Vladimir Putin, right, That's what he wants to be.
Speaker 1: That's who he admires.
Speaker 4: But in our judicial systems defense, in my mind, over
Speaker 4: these past few years, it was one of the few
Speaker 4: institutions in America that actually held pretty strong. And you
Speaker 4: are frowning at me, you disagree with this.
Speaker 11: Well, on our podcast we take different roles. Kate, is
Speaker 11: I think much more amenable to your position. I think
Speaker 11: I think, well, yeah, well we explain like there's something
Speaker 11: to this.
Speaker 13: I do think that there is a way in which
Speaker 13: courts really did stand as a bulwark against some of
Speaker 13: Trump's worst instincts and impulses while he was in office,
Speaker 13: and even since you know, sixty plus lawsuits he filed
Speaker 13: around the twenty twenty election, all unsuccessful. Right, he argued
Speaker 13: for different versions of immunity in civil and criminal cases.
Speaker 13: Previously those have been unsuccessful essentially throughout. But we are
Speaker 13: in a real test moment of that proposition, in that
Speaker 13: the Supreme Court is right now facing this question of
Speaker 13: whether he will ever stand trial for the January sixth events.
Speaker 4: No grant him blanket immunity. We don't have a republic anymore.
Speaker 4: We don't have a constitutional republic if the head of
Speaker 4: it has immunity. The thing I liked about what the
Speaker 4: courts did is they set a standard of evidence. Anybody
Speaker 4: can say whatever they want on a basic cables show
Speaker 4: whenever they go or at a rally or anything else,
Speaker 4: but when you bring it into a court, as Juliani
Speaker 4: famously said, no we don't have any evidence. But we
Speaker 4: got slee lots of theories and they threw them out.
Speaker 11: Okay, So that just suggests that the bar is in hell. Yes,
Speaker 11: of course, the courts are a bulwark against the most
Speaker 11: toutalitarian impulses in our society. But we forget that the
Speaker 11: court system. We have the Supreme Court we have. The
Speaker 11: debates we're having about the Supreme Court are all right now.
Speaker 11: The product of what Donald Trump did like this is
Speaker 11: a person who was not elected by the poscation saying
Speaker 11: these questions.
Speaker 4: Would have been utterly unimaginable in previews right.
Speaker 11: Now, debating whether or not in the next presidential term
Speaker 11: we are going to see a national ban on abortion.
Speaker 11: We wouldn't be having that discussion if Donald Trump's six
Speaker 11: or three conservative supermajority had not rolled back Roll versus WAD,
Speaker 11: we wouldn't have that discussion at all.
Speaker 1: For the immunity discussion or anything all of this.
Speaker 11: He has created the conditions for the way we talk
Speaker 11: about this court.
Speaker 4: And that's the thing that ultimately is at stake in
Speaker 4: all this. I want to thank you guys so much
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Speaker 1: Melissa, Marie and Khall. We'll be right back.
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Speaker 3: Is that?
Speaker 10: But because I honestly thought he was going to be
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