Speaker 1: Welcome to Katie's Crib, a production of Shonda Land Audio
Speaker 1: in partnership with I Heart Radio. Hi everybody, I think
Speaker 1: we've all been hearing a lot about the importance of
Speaker 1: self care with the pandemic and all of its stressors
Speaker 1: amplifying that need. And I don't know in my own
Speaker 1: personal case. I can't meditate, I don't read anything except
Speaker 1: my phone and the news, and I get more and
Speaker 1: more stressed out. So I have called on a very dear,
Speaker 1: longtime friend of mine by the name of Robin Eucalus.
Speaker 1: She is a wellness coach. She's an author of best
Speaker 1: selling books Go with Your Gut and Thin from Within.
Speaker 1: She's been featured on The View, The Today Show, e News, Cosmopolitan.
Speaker 1: She's gracing us with her calming energy today and every
Speaker 1: day if you follow her on Instagram, which I do. UM,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here. Robin, I miss you.
Speaker 1: I miss you so much. Thank you for that beautiful intro.
Speaker 1: And I was definitely giggling a little bit inside as
Speaker 1: You're introduced me with this calm presence, because I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure my family are cracking up thinking she's calm. But
Speaker 1: the truth is, when you grow up in a rather
Speaker 1: you know, jubilant Jewish family from Long Island. Somebody has
Speaker 1: to be the calm one, I have to say of
Speaker 1: everyone I know, and I have a wide net and
Speaker 1: circle of friends and moms in the Katie Script community,
Speaker 1: you truly are handling this pretty well, like and I
Speaker 1: was like, I gotta get Robin On here to see
Speaker 1: through us mosis or through any kind of tips if
Speaker 1: I can feel that way, and I think we all do,
Speaker 1: because not only is the pandemic really hard personally on
Speaker 1: our relationships, on being mothers this incredible epic time that
Speaker 1: we are seeing with all the racial injustice going on
Speaker 1: in our society. I know that it a long journey
Speaker 1: and it's not something that can be fixed overnight. And
Speaker 1: so self care is a huge part of being able
Speaker 1: to stay energized so that we can stay fighting the
Speaker 1: good fight. And I'm already exhausted and that's awful, Like
Speaker 1: we have so much longer to go. First, your mom,
Speaker 1: how old is your daughter? I am a mom. I
Speaker 1: have a four year old daughter. Her name is Navy.
Speaker 1: She has red hair and blue eyes, and she is
Speaker 1: a thousand percent spirit and spunk and all the things.
Speaker 1: And now he's obsessed with her. Albi runs around going
Speaker 1: Navy everything. I've had to sing him his good night
Speaker 1: song is happy Birthday to Navy for like a good year.
Speaker 1: Like he's obsessed with her, and he's like, well he's
Speaker 1: he's like just saying happy birthday to Navy real quick.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, just want can you oblige? And
Speaker 1: there is a husband attached to that child as well.
Speaker 1: You know, it's not just my husband, Scott is her father.
Speaker 1: That's my little immediate family unit. And we don't have
Speaker 1: another child yet. We have talked about it. I really
Speaker 1: wanted a lot of space between them because I like
Speaker 1: to just simplify as much as possible. I know what
Speaker 1: my husband I are capable of. He is an entrepreneur,
Speaker 1: I'm an entrepreneur. We work wild hours, and I wanted
Speaker 1: to be able to focus on her. And now we
Speaker 1: are starting to talk about bringing another one into the mix.
Speaker 1: But it's really just such an example of know yourself.
Speaker 1: And you mentioned a lot about self care through this time.
Speaker 1: One thing I really love to share about that is
Speaker 1: self care is not as interesting as Goop and l
Speaker 1: and all the magazines want to make it. It's actually
Speaker 1: in its truest form, really boring. We tend to want
Speaker 1: to make things exciting and a big ah ha. But
Speaker 1: I feel what's kept me so calm through this time,
Speaker 1: calm through mamahood with her is getting it in in
Speaker 1: so many tiny little moments, in little practices. When you
Speaker 1: hold a pen. If you're holding a pen and you're
Speaker 1: writing and you're like all the tension and you're pulling
Speaker 1: in your shoulders and you're like, I gotta get this
Speaker 1: down or get this right, and you're squeezing that pen
Speaker 1: that is pulling from your life force energy, You're you're
Speaker 1: like actual foundational health. It's such a silly example, but
Speaker 1: so many moments like that, when we're rushing to the card,
Speaker 1: we're looking for our keys and we go to do
Speaker 1: the dishes. It's absolutely dizzy. And so how many times
Speaker 1: in our day can we take a breath, take a pause,
Speaker 1: take a moment, not take even twenty minutes. Twenty minutes
Speaker 1: is a lot for a moment. What that happens, And
Speaker 1: that's definitely part of it. Because I feel this pressure
Speaker 1: to like set up a space and make sure my
Speaker 1: toddler can't get to me, and like I have to like,
Speaker 1: create this whole moment for it, that it's probably making
Speaker 1: it more stressful than it has to be. When I
Speaker 1: really really special much pressure, much pressure, So I can't
Speaker 1: handle that either. So it sounds like you have mindful
Speaker 1: moments throughout the day right where you just actually focus
Speaker 1: on exactly the task at hand in a really simplified,
Speaker 1: grounded breath. You do a lot of breath work and
Speaker 1: things like that. Um, are you a meditat or do
Speaker 1: you meditate every day? So the joke is actually as
Speaker 1: as I have meditation guide and meditation teacher on my title,
Speaker 1: and I actually heavily dislike meditating. Um, just like I've
Speaker 1: run half marathons, but I hate running. Like you know,
Speaker 1: this is the typical case of that. And I said,
Speaker 1: can I call myself that if I don't do it
Speaker 1: every day? And I'm like, you know what I can,
Speaker 1: because what I believe is there is a kind of
Speaker 1: meditation for everybody and if we can break down the
Speaker 1: walls the container of what it's supposed to be, Um,
Speaker 1: you can make it your own. Yes, it would be
Speaker 1: lovely to have twenty minutes in the morning and twenty
Speaker 1: minutes at the end of the day. I encourage the
Speaker 1: right kind of clients to get to that place. If
Speaker 1: you can get up before your kid at five thirty
Speaker 1: or six am or six thirty and that works for you,
Speaker 1: do it. But I also believe that our life has chapters,
Speaker 1: and if you're in the chapter with young kids or
Speaker 1: whatever it is, your schedule in your time is really
Speaker 1: not your own. My daughter was up all last night
Speaker 1: and all off the night before because she just had
Speaker 1: a little skin thing we had to take care of.
Speaker 1: It's it's not going to be possible for me to
Speaker 1: to wake up early know the chapter that you're in.
Speaker 1: So what is doable right now? So for me, if
Speaker 1: a meditation I'm using air quotes doesn't happen, can I
Speaker 1: wake up and before I want to fling myself out
Speaker 1: of bed and go pee And sometimes even forgetting I
Speaker 1: do it on the toilet while I'm being It's just
Speaker 1: placed my hand over my heart and take three breaths,
Speaker 1: and that can be your meditation. And I trust that
Speaker 1: every single one of your listeners is capable of doing
Speaker 1: something like that. It's just the commitment and the reminding
Speaker 1: and tuning into people that inspire you that remind you
Speaker 1: to do those things. For yourself that it doesn't have
Speaker 1: to be so dang hard and such a thing. And
Speaker 1: so when I make meditation about that, yes I do
Speaker 1: it every single day, but my road there. I originally
Speaker 1: used to set a timer for one minute because that's
Speaker 1: all I could get myself to sit for. This is
Speaker 1: all I did for you. Helpful and so true because
Speaker 1: I have to say, like this morning, I woke up
Speaker 1: on my own a little bit before Albi did, and
Speaker 1: I just like laid there and looked at the ceiling
Speaker 1: and took a few breaths and just said to myself,
Speaker 1: I'm going to have a lot of energy this more
Speaker 1: to take care of my son, because a lot of
Speaker 1: mornings I don't. And even though I was exhausted, I
Speaker 1: just said to myself, this morning is going to be
Speaker 1: a good morning. And it really has changed the entire
Speaker 1: scope of the morning, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: it was only because I took, like you said, three
Speaker 1: breaths and like focus my mind a little bit before
Speaker 1: I went just go hard and get the kid, get
Speaker 1: the milk at the baba, get your coffee, look at
Speaker 1: your phone, what's the schedule, blah blah blah um. I
Speaker 1: also love that you meditate with Navy hanging off of you,
Speaker 1: I have no choice? Is that allowed? People would really
Speaker 1: ask that, like, how do you tune your child out?
Speaker 1: First of all listeners, Robin and maybe have an absolutely
Speaker 1: gorgeous relationship. She is a very independent spirit, Um and
Speaker 1: you I love. I'm so sad we're not living in
Speaker 1: the same city right now because I honestly and truly
Speaker 1: loved watching you parent because I think you're real fucking
Speaker 1: good at it, and I think you you are you
Speaker 1: I do too, but even but I just think you're
Speaker 1: really good at communicating with her and staying calm even
Speaker 1: though even when she's I mean, she's got her opinions, man,
Speaker 1: and she's she's a force for sure, and it's and
Speaker 1: they're all day. There's not never a day or a
Speaker 1: section of time off from the opinions and the focus
Speaker 1: and the yeah, and you're just she's intense and I
Speaker 1: and I I just think you do a really good
Speaker 1: job of of holding her up for exactly who she is, Um,
Speaker 1: within boundaries and safety and things like that. But um,
Speaker 1: so tell me about when you meditate and she's hanging
Speaker 1: off of you. Is that real? Because you do it
Speaker 1: on your Instagram and look, I think it's effing adorable.
Speaker 1: Tell me, so everything you see on my Instagram, I
Speaker 1: do want to say is absolutely real. That's always like
Speaker 1: my disclaimer. If you see my child with me cooking
Speaker 1: or baking, it's because she sees what I'm doing and
Speaker 1: she asked to jump in. For everyone that you see
Speaker 1: like that, there's five more that she wants nothing to
Speaker 1: do with. And I never people said to me, we're like,
Speaker 1: how do you get your kid to cooperate for social
Speaker 1: MEDIA'M like, I don't. She's also saying there are instagrams
Speaker 1: where she's like saying poop a thousand times while she's
Speaker 1: helping you cook because she thinks is hilarious and I
Speaker 1: think it's hilarious. Um so okay, that's a great disclamer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so just a disclaimer with that. And then as far
Speaker 1: as her meditating with me, what I try and do
Speaker 1: is at least one to two times a week, I
Speaker 1: have a sacred meditation for myself that it's once during
Speaker 1: the week and it's once on the weekend. Sometimes I
Speaker 1: plan those, sometimes I don't. Let's say it needs to
Speaker 1: happen at eleven thirty am, I said an alarm on
Speaker 1: my phone. I got my journal and I say, I
Speaker 1: know I need this. It's like running. I would spend
Speaker 1: more time avoiding it than actually doing it, but eventually
Speaker 1: I get there. So I do make sure I have
Speaker 1: quiet alone ones twice a week. Those are my chickens.
Speaker 1: Those are my how are you feeling? How are you doing?
Speaker 1: And that's also part of you know you're saying, I'm
Speaker 1: a calm mom, calm human com parents. That feeds it.
Speaker 1: I don't wait for the crisis to get out my
Speaker 1: notebook and create that time for myself. It is a
Speaker 1: commitment and it's discipline. It means telling my husband, you know,
Speaker 1: you guys are doing something really cute in the living
Speaker 1: room and I'm gonna miss it because I know I
Speaker 1: need to do this for myself. The other times, when
Speaker 1: you do see her hanging off of me, or maybe
Speaker 1: she's really participating, or maybe she's like punking me, Um,
Speaker 1: I try and go into it with no expectations. Isn't
Speaker 1: that such the lesson for parentings. It's such good good luck.
Speaker 1: And one thing too, I do want to say, is
Speaker 1: I invite her in. It's not oh it's a mommy
Speaker 1: and Navy activity. It's this is what I'm doing, and
Speaker 1: I'm clear with my words. I'm going to meditate for myself.
Speaker 1: Now I need to breathe and be in my body.
Speaker 1: Would you like to join me? If you're going to
Speaker 1: join me, you can sit quietly with me, or you
Speaker 1: can play with your something over here. Um, this is
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do. And she'll say I want to
Speaker 1: join you, or she'll say no and run out of
Speaker 1: the room and slam the door. Um. But she joins
Speaker 1: me then, also knowing just because she said yes does
Speaker 1: not mean she's going to behave in a way that
Speaker 1: I would appreciate that she does. Sometimes she sits and
Speaker 1: ohms and it's beautiful, and sometimes you know, she's exactly
Speaker 1: on your hair and literally pulling on my hair, and
Speaker 1: it's just like, you know, what what can I what
Speaker 1: can I just be with what is today? It's like
Speaker 1: we get that huge message constantly being with with what is,
Speaker 1: being with what is letting go, letting go the exercise
Speaker 1: and the meditative moment of guidance that I'm getting in
Speaker 1: there is not that I transcended and that I went
Speaker 1: to bliss and that I was breathing. The gift is
Speaker 1: that I was able to breathe through and let go
Speaker 1: of the expectation or the circumstance that was happening around me,
Speaker 1: And then that means that's the muscle that I then
Speaker 1: trained that's then going to serve me when she hits
Speaker 1: the fan later on in the day or that weekend,
Speaker 1: et cetera. Unbelievable. That's like, see, it's so worth it,
Speaker 1: even though I would be sitting there being like, oh,
Speaker 1: this meditation is ruined. I didn't get to the falling
Speaker 1: off point. But really the lesson is, don't have that expectations.
Speaker 1: Be here now. It is what it is, which you
Speaker 1: then can take to parenting the rest of the day
Speaker 1: and the week. You're also really good at boundaries, which
Speaker 1: I feel like is also incredibly important during pandemic um
Speaker 1: because we have nowhere a lot of moms don't have
Speaker 1: places to go and stay at home. Moms a lot
Speaker 1: of times don't have anywhere to go, regardless of pandemic.
Speaker 1: But I think more than ever, we can't get to
Speaker 1: a playground, we can't get to a mall, we can't
Speaker 1: get anywhere. I feel more guilt than I've ever had
Speaker 1: because my son feels more attached to me than he's
Speaker 1: ever had because he's never had me this much, and
Speaker 1: so we're having really difficult time when he has to
Speaker 1: have time with Daddy. I mean, it's just the transitions,
Speaker 1: but it's rough. Um. So I'm curious how you've been
Speaker 1: setting boundaries up for yourself and for your time and
Speaker 1: your work. Yeah, so first knowing like this is a
Speaker 1: wild time, it is an exception, even if it goes
Speaker 1: on for another year, even if it's two years. In
Speaker 1: the scope of life, I like to tell myself it's
Speaker 1: a lot of permissions and a lot of reminders God will, Like,
Speaker 1: life is a long time. And so if this is
Speaker 1: a chapter where things can feel like a struggle, where
Speaker 1: boundaries are not clear, where you don't feel like you're
Speaker 1: crushing it, it's okay. It doesn't mean you're less of
Speaker 1: an amazing mom, less of a great human, not you know,
Speaker 1: doing your self care. It's like, Okay, this is a
Speaker 1: wild period of time. At some point it will shift,
Speaker 1: and how much grace can you give yourself in that
Speaker 1: process in addition to that doing as much as you
Speaker 1: can around it. Some people work really well with schedules
Speaker 1: or routines, So it's like getting really honest. If you
Speaker 1: have a partner at home or friend or someone that
Speaker 1: can help you that you feel comfortable with, here's the
Speaker 1: day of the weeks in my time, where like, if
Speaker 1: I haven't had a moment to myself, it starts to
Speaker 1: get off the rails um, you know, getting those on
Speaker 1: your calendar, scheduling them out in advance, and if they
Speaker 1: don't happen or scheduling doesn't work for you, I'm not
Speaker 1: a big like you know, everybody's cooperating at the time
Speaker 1: that I need them to. You have to just remind
Speaker 1: yourself constantly, like I'm a priority in my space in
Speaker 1: my time, a priority and not from a place of
Speaker 1: judgment or panic or worry or fear. But hey, it's
Speaker 1: five o'clock. I haven't had a minute for myself. Let
Speaker 1: me think about my evening and where can I get creative?
Speaker 1: Where can I do even less? Where can I you know,
Speaker 1: even if you're a child maybe crying for you, and
Speaker 1: you can still step away. You just trust, like I
Speaker 1: can trust myself, I can trust what I need in
Speaker 1: this moment, because the biggest conversation most of the time
Speaker 1: is going to be with you and your own emotions
Speaker 1: and the way that you're judging or feeling about yourself.
Speaker 1: And that's the one to have. That's the one you
Speaker 1: need to have because really, like you know, your kid
Speaker 1: is safe and clothed and sheltered and loved period, regardless
Speaker 1: of whether or not you're letting him or her cry
Speaker 1: or not have the treat they want, or not have
Speaker 1: the TV time and the meltdowns are happening. It's like,
Speaker 1: my kid knows he's loved, even if I'm being a dick.
Speaker 1: You might have to say that in your mind. Like
Speaker 1: what I love to say to during I don't call
Speaker 1: him tantrums, but um intense emotions, big emotions, big swinging feelings.
Speaker 1: I say to myself, you know, on a good day,
Speaker 1: right when I've done all the things that I've slept
Speaker 1: in this that I say, oh, look at my child.
Speaker 1: She is so healthy. My child is so healthy. She'd
Speaker 1: feels so comfortable expressing all the opinions and all of
Speaker 1: her feelings. Look how healthy my child is. So it's
Speaker 1: it's that mindset, and it's just what that does is
Speaker 1: it releases the tension in your body. It brings you
Speaker 1: back to your rest and digest your parasympathetic system. That's
Speaker 1: the system that is responsible for you calming the f
Speaker 1: down instead of being in fight or flight, because you know,
Speaker 1: when you have a conversation from fight or flight, or
Speaker 1: you have a conversation even with yourself, right, there's no chance.
Speaker 1: So this is again, how many little teeny moments in
Speaker 1: your day can you take a breath? Can you tell
Speaker 1: yourself it's going to be okay. One thing I struggle
Speaker 1: with so much in parenting is like calling myself like
Speaker 1: I'm so not a Pinterest mom like crafts, and there
Speaker 1: is not a single okay ready for this everybody. There's
Speaker 1: not a single printed photo of my child anywhere in
Speaker 1: my home. We are the same person in so many ways.
Speaker 1: I don't have anything and I'll be nothing, never printed
Speaker 1: one up. Like I know, I'm terrible. I hate this
Speaker 1: has been a real challenge, like in pandemic times. I've
Speaker 1: talked to my therapist about this because it's like how
Speaker 1: many walks around the block can I do with my son.
Speaker 1: I'm not a mom like you that does crafts. I
Speaker 1: don't like planning workbooks or curriculum like I would love
Speaker 1: nothing more than to send my kid to school and
Speaker 1: trust someone else to do those things with and give
Speaker 1: him those opportutions. I'm a mom that's a producer. I
Speaker 1: like to organize schedules in time and keep the house
Speaker 1: together and be there for him. But I don't like
Speaker 1: to initiate like massive play. That's just not my strong suit.
Speaker 1: And I feel like I'm going to kick ass when
Speaker 1: he's like a teenager and everything's like like emotional and
Speaker 1: like talking and chill like that, and you're not either,
Speaker 1: which you maybe feel so much better because I think
Speaker 1: you're a great mom. You see and they're okay, and
Speaker 1: they're okay. But I would say too, within that, like
Speaker 1: find something that you do enjoy, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: if you want to put on plays with him, go
Speaker 1: through your shoes in your closet, or we love that.
Speaker 1: I love anything that's like an organizational thing, and I
Speaker 1: love reading readers. Of course, you just you have to
Speaker 1: find the things and you have to trust they're getting enough.
Speaker 1: And then I will say one thing in Pandemic that
Speaker 1: I've tried to get stronger at and it it has
Speaker 1: served us, is letting her lead. Just sometimes maybe it's
Speaker 1: it's just could be once a week where it's like, hey, Navy.
Speaker 1: What do you want is She's like, I want to
Speaker 1: play dollies, and everything in me is going I don't
Speaker 1: want to play dollies. I don't want to play. But
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, sure, and just play the
Speaker 1: dang dollies with her for an hour because then, guess what,
Speaker 1: she's way more crop cooperative. The rest of the day
Speaker 1: goes to bed eas and not that it's an either
Speaker 1: or and you always get what you put in and kids.
Speaker 1: I was so with her yesterday. I was like, she's
Speaker 1: just gonna have today is gonna be a day where
Speaker 1: she has my full focus. And then some oh we
Speaker 1: were in the courtyard playing with the kids, and she said,
Speaker 1: nobody's cheering for me. And then she said, and now
Speaker 1: my entire day is ruined. And I say, and I'm
Speaker 1: literally like, I worked really hard to be a really
Speaker 1: good mom today and just focus on you and be present,
Speaker 1: and you're telling me that none of that matters anymore,
Speaker 1: And like she's far so that being said, you can
Speaker 1: still do all the things and they'll still slap you
Speaker 1: in the face, whether it's literally I've gotten whacked in
Speaker 1: the face, are emotionally whacked in the face. You just
Speaker 1: that's why it's like, have fun, do the best you can, breathe,
Speaker 1: you know, give yourself a break. And I'm telling you
Speaker 1: all of this because I'm telling myself this. It is
Speaker 1: a practice. This is never something that I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I did it. I'm good at at now, but I
Speaker 1: certainly exercise those muscles every single day. It's it's so like,
Speaker 1: what what's the garden you're watering? Right? Is it the
Speaker 1: one of guilt and shame? And I wish I could
Speaker 1: this or could that? Or you just saying you know what,
Speaker 1: we're okay, I'm okay, breath in, bread out. You do
Speaker 1: so much focus on gut and belly health, which I
Speaker 1: think also relates to mental health. We're trying to take
Speaker 1: care of ourselves during this pandemic, and everyone's joking about
Speaker 1: gaining pounds. People are home, often they're going to their
Speaker 1: kitchen to get a snack because people are eating their feelings.
Speaker 1: Tell me about how your gut and belly have been
Speaker 1: during this pandemic and what advice you can give to
Speaker 1: the rest of us, because Adam and I have seen
Speaker 1: some dark ship during this time. If you look at
Speaker 1: my husband's Instagram and him making pretzels and donuts from
Speaker 1: scratch and like, what is he doing to me? We're
Speaker 1: going to be rolled out of the house in two years,
Speaker 1: um of me advice, Yes, so much. Yeah, so oh
Speaker 1: my god. So first disclaimer again, I love crap food.
Speaker 1: So I'm one of these people call me healthy wellness
Speaker 1: experts and blah blah blah blah blah. I'm like, you
Speaker 1: could give me a corn dog any day. I will
Speaker 1: eat that. Yeah. I made you a case ofda once
Speaker 1: and you were like, this is the best thing I've
Speaker 1: ever eaten. So people think I eat perfectly, I don't.
Speaker 1: I love crap food. My father, Um was a chronic
Speaker 1: overeater and dieter, and I really struggled a lot connecting
Speaker 1: to him and my own journey and overeating, always being
Speaker 1: on the next diet, constantly comparing my thighs to everybody else.
Speaker 1: Need to change my body, change my body, change my body.
Speaker 1: I've worked a lot on that over the years. I
Speaker 1: will say my road to pregnancy actually did heal a
Speaker 1: big layer of that for me, in the sense that
Speaker 1: when I was preparing my body for you know, future child,
Speaker 1: I went and got my panels on, and where is
Speaker 1: my mercury levels and doing all these things, and I
Speaker 1: realized that, oh, I'm making this home as optimal as
Speaker 1: possible for this future baby to hopefully grow in. But like, hey, hello,
Speaker 1: I live here, Like how am I taking here myself
Speaker 1: for me? So that was another layer of the shift.
Speaker 1: That being said, I still love and eat all the
Speaker 1: every different kind of food. So my biggest well, two
Speaker 1: things I want to say about this one is I
Speaker 1: still really believe that it is most of the time
Speaker 1: what you eat, not some of the time. So this
Speaker 1: might be a good time to make your most of
Speaker 1: the time as strong as you can. And it can
Speaker 1: be really simple. Now we have hopefully more access to
Speaker 1: vegetables produced healthy proteins. Um I am a gut health expert.
Speaker 1: I'm always going to preach about raw fermented Sara crowd
Speaker 1: and raw fermented veggies and getting some of that into
Speaker 1: you're helping the bacterial conversation in your body. I think
Speaker 1: we're absolutely not talking about enough in this pandemic is
Speaker 1: understanding that a virus is a conversation with your body,
Speaker 1: and your body needs to be a willing host to
Speaker 1: invite that conversation in. So the more that you can
Speaker 1: take care of your gut health, of your health in
Speaker 1: any way. That yeah, exactly. Our immune tissue lies in
Speaker 1: our digestive system. That again of our immune tissue, that
Speaker 1: system lies in your digestive system. With our kids too, Yes,
Speaker 1: we're born that way. Yeah. So but they're okay, they
Speaker 1: work out. They work just like you can just eat
Speaker 1: like white toast and cheddar crackers for the first timemester
Speaker 1: of your pregnancy and it doesn't affect you or the baby.
Speaker 1: It's fine. Um so. Yeah, So when we're taking care
Speaker 1: of our gut health, our digestive health, probad experimented foods,
Speaker 1: healthy fats, things like that, we are taking care of
Speaker 1: our immune systems. So I would say, do the best
Speaker 1: you can with that, you know, keep it really simple.
Speaker 1: I outlined something called the rule of five plate in
Speaker 1: my book then from within if you can't get the book,
Speaker 1: that's also on my blog. I like to give a
Speaker 1: lot of resources and always as much as possible. Um
Speaker 1: to of course my pleasure. Um So, cooked vegetables, making
Speaker 1: trays of roast of vegetables. Again, make it simple, it
Speaker 1: does not have to be complicated. So you're most of
Speaker 1: the time food doing the best you can you're some
Speaker 1: of the time food. My point that I want to
Speaker 1: make about that is this is a pandemic. We've never
Speaker 1: been here before in our lifetimes. Who the heck am
Speaker 1: I to say to not have your pretzel oreo, whatever
Speaker 1: configurations that you're eating during this time. I just have
Speaker 1: to trust, like, eat the dan cookies. I am like
Speaker 1: fifty percent cookies at this point. It's fine if I'm
Speaker 1: doing the other things. I think we've been most of
Speaker 1: the time that we can trust that it's going to
Speaker 1: be okay. Um. I'm friends with Ruby Warrington, who wrote
Speaker 1: the book Sober Curious, and she talks a lot about
Speaker 1: not necessarily um, you know, total sobriety, but really stepping
Speaker 1: away from drinking for other reasons. Um. And people were
Speaker 1: asking her, you know, how do you feel about everybody
Speaker 1: drinking during this time? And I was drinking way more
Speaker 1: during this time. Oh my god, is very day. It's
Speaker 1: every day. And not that she's not judgmental at all.
Speaker 1: I thought she would have said, you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: bad or it's terrible that we're doing this, and I
Speaker 1: wish we were turning to other vices. But instead, she
Speaker 1: shared on her Instagram her name against Ruby Warrington's She's awesome.
Speaker 1: She shared, who am I to tell people how to
Speaker 1: handle a time like this with job security, black lives matter,
Speaker 1: and with an election like this is not going away
Speaker 1: anytime soon, everybody, so whenever, the stress is not going
Speaker 1: away any time soon. And so that's why I'm so
Speaker 1: happy you're here, because we have to to the simple,
Speaker 1: the simple things that make us feel better. It's like, okay,
Speaker 1: most of the time, if you can be pushing vegetables
Speaker 1: and proteins, great, that also means you can have the cookie,
Speaker 1: you can have the wine, whatever, like let's to survive.
Speaker 1: But also through the day with motherhood, if there are
Speaker 1: moments where you can just take a breath, put up
Speaker 1: a boundary, meditate with your kid next to you. No
Speaker 1: matter what the ship show is, it's just like be
Speaker 1: there for it. Oh, I wanted one thing came to mind.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about one time we were in the
Speaker 1: playroom in New York City. You guys, we live been
Speaker 1: the same apartment building in New York City. Was the
Speaker 1: best um And I remember one time where Navy, this
Speaker 1: girl is obsessed with Maybe and Maybe was making her
Speaker 1: cry because Maybe was like, I don't want to play
Speaker 1: with you like at all. And the girl was just
Speaker 1: very clear. The girl was just hysterical. And I just
Speaker 1: watched you like be there for navy and like and
Speaker 1: for the other girls saying all the things, and I
Speaker 1: it was so wonderful to watch because I would have
Speaker 1: completely buckled down, Like I just wouldn't have been able
Speaker 1: to deal with the judgment from like the other moms
Speaker 1: that like my kids not playing nice or what we
Speaker 1: consider nice to be. And that's my son to a t,
Speaker 1: like my son does has his own agenda, Like I
Speaker 1: might set up a plate date and that kid might
Speaker 1: walk like this has been a social distance someone a
Speaker 1: kid friend might come over in our front yard for
Speaker 1: an hour and he's screaming no from the minute the
Speaker 1: kid walks in because he's not to sharing his stuff
Speaker 1: right now. He doesn't want other children in his space.
Speaker 1: And I am fucking horrified. Okay, Like, my my social
Speaker 1: niceties self is a mess. Help me? What how do you?
Speaker 1: How do you dig deep and are strong for judgment
Speaker 1: and mom guilt? Yes? So um, you need to rye
Speaker 1: method yourself. You would say this to yourself, Katie, like,
Speaker 1: oh hey, Katie, I see that you're really uncomfortable right
Speaker 1: now that you want to judge yourself, but can you
Speaker 1: just accept what is, take a deep breath, maybe share
Speaker 1: some funny humor sentiments with the other mom, and trust
Speaker 1: Albie that this is what he needs and that it's
Speaker 1: all going to be okay. So I would have that
Speaker 1: conversation with myself and over time in environments like the
Speaker 1: playroom or the playground it I actually kind of think
Speaker 1: it's funny. I've been known like I could see navy
Speaker 1: and this and this is within reason, right. There's never
Speaker 1: physical you may not tell, he may not be mean,
Speaker 1: there's no none of that. And also too if she
Speaker 1: doesn't want to play and say please be kind with
Speaker 1: your words. There's definitely things that are okay and not okay. Um,
Speaker 1: but I've been known when I see Tyler's working it
Speaker 1: out that I pretend like I've seen it, but I'm
Speaker 1: looking away or I'm like conveniently having a conversation with
Speaker 1: someone else. So a lot of moms other may think
Speaker 1: I'm like almost don't pay attention or this, but I'm
Speaker 1: actually overpaying attention and I'm doing it on purpose. So whatever.
Speaker 1: That's when you've got to get a little bit of
Speaker 1: the like say something to yourself, say something to the
Speaker 1: other mom, but not to put your child down, like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is so hard. Why can't they just this, Like
Speaker 1: let's watch ourselves for that, because my mom used to
Speaker 1: do that to me. It didn't feel good. It didn't
Speaker 1: feel good. They just are who they are in those
Speaker 1: moments and we can't It doesn't make them right. They're
Speaker 1: not gumby. You can't mold them, and you have to
Speaker 1: just trust that if you can breathe and just take
Speaker 1: a step back and find some hu we're in, finding
Speaker 1: some lightness that this is for the better of your
Speaker 1: child and for the environment, and think when they're older
Speaker 1: that they can feel confident. That's like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be social right now, Maybe I need
Speaker 1: to be right. Sometimes there are you need to go
Speaker 1: to the event even if you don't want to, but
Speaker 1: maybe you don't, and they need to really learn how
Speaker 1: to take care of themselves, and so I'll be he
Speaker 1: knows how to take care of himself in that moment.
Speaker 1: For whatever reason, this isn't okay. Obviously there's some funky
Speaker 1: areas here too with not sharing and being under socialized.
Speaker 1: That we're going to have to shake out. But again,
Speaker 1: even going into that conversation, can you have grace? Can
Speaker 1: you just trust, breathe baby steps and just continue to
Speaker 1: do the best that you can. Amazing. We're going to
Speaker 1: have such a treat today you guys, Robin. I want
Speaker 1: you to take us through like a little meditation, but
Speaker 1: honestly a realistic mom one. Okay, like not a fucking
Speaker 1: in No one's got time for this. It will be
Speaker 1: like three minutes, like like promise if there's like a
Speaker 1: three minute one. But before we do that, is there
Speaker 1: anything else that we want to talk about besides guilt boundaries?
Speaker 1: What we're putting in our bellies are our bellies and
Speaker 1: bodies to process this this insane time. The only thing
Speaker 1: that that came through and this is me just trusting
Speaker 1: my intuition and whatever comes through is just to remind
Speaker 1: ever the biggest gut trust I've ever known. It's true.
Speaker 1: Like you're just like, so you know yourself so well,
Speaker 1: I'm such a libra like maybe it's this, maybe it's that,
Speaker 1: but that's my brain. See okay, So in this I'll
Speaker 1: take you through the little process. So you asked me
Speaker 1: a question, where in my head a bunch of things
Speaker 1: dropped in. But what I heard from deep within is
Speaker 1: this is what wants to be shared, and so I
Speaker 1: get push it away, or I can say nope, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna trust and so again, exercising that muscle of
Speaker 1: whatever it is that's supportive for you. Every time you
Speaker 1: feel or hear or sense this little wave of a voice,
Speaker 1: a sentence, a piece of clarity, listen to it and
Speaker 1: you will strengthen it, and then you'll hear it more
Speaker 1: and more and more. You can still have the liber
Speaker 1: back and forth conversation in your head. Oh my head
Speaker 1: is a very busy place it is. It is got's
Speaker 1: like are you where are you in your body? And
Speaker 1: your molly, are you in your head? I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: in my head right now, go away. Um, So just
Speaker 1: trusting and so what came through It's it's very simple.
Speaker 1: I could judge myself and say, well, this isn't enough
Speaker 1: to share, but I'm gonna trust that whoever is listening,
Speaker 1: this is exactly what you need to hear. Is going
Speaker 1: back to those basics when we talk about health and
Speaker 1: we talk about wellness. When you first wake up, are
Speaker 1: you having a huge glass of water? Are you flushing
Speaker 1: your system when you're making your morning this, Are you breathing?
Speaker 1: Are you in your body? Are your feet underneath you
Speaker 1: when you go to bed at night? Are you brushing
Speaker 1: the day away? Maybe taking an extra shower or a
Speaker 1: salt bath, or literally physically. I'd like to take my
Speaker 1: hand and just brush down my body and imagine all
Speaker 1: the motions, all the experience of everything that had that
Speaker 1: that happened that day, and just brushing it away. Are
Speaker 1: you eating fresh food, vegetables, water, Are you speaking kindly
Speaker 1: to yourself? You know? Are you taking your immunity supplements?
Speaker 1: Are you taking a probiotic? You know? How simple? Can
Speaker 1: you make it so that you can feel supported and
Speaker 1: you can get out of your head? And those should
Speaker 1: I shouldn't I But she's this, and she's that. It's
Speaker 1: really tricky right now, and with the school transition or
Speaker 1: the non school transition, we've got to get into our
Speaker 1: bodies and into our bellies and trust that they've got you.
Speaker 1: And if you feel the I'm worried, I feel fearful.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. It's like, just find
Speaker 1: a moment of peace. Let's do that. Now. We're just
Speaker 1: gonna start so just okay, absolutely not necessary, but if
Speaker 1: you can and you feel safe to do so in
Speaker 1: your space, go ahead and close your eyes and don't
Speaker 1: do anything yet. No editing, no adjusting, No oh I'm
Speaker 1: tense or I should be breathing more. Just take a
Speaker 1: moment to be with you in the exact space that
Speaker 1: you're here in right now, and maybe you've got a
Speaker 1: little one on your hip or someone calling for you.
Speaker 1: Just let that flow in and let it flow out.
Speaker 1: There's nothing you need to do with it. You don't
Speaker 1: need to change it or shift it. The visual that
Speaker 1: just came to me is the tide from the ocean
Speaker 1: coming in. There's no way that you could push against
Speaker 1: that tide and stop it from coming in. So just
Speaker 1: let that water come up on the shore and go
Speaker 1: back into the vast ocean. Next, I invite you to
Speaker 1: place one hand over your heart, and even right there
Speaker 1: in that connection, see if anything shifted for you, if
Speaker 1: you were immediately reminded of this beautiful organ beating for
Speaker 1: inside of your body, pumping your blood, giving you life
Speaker 1: and also giving you love, This beautiful space that lives
Speaker 1: within each and every one of us, within yourself as
Speaker 1: a human, If you have littles within them, that each
Speaker 1: and every one of us has a heart and a heartbeat.
Speaker 1: And if your eyes are open and you're in your
Speaker 1: day or driving, just do this in your mind. Our
Speaker 1: minds are such powerful places. And if that's where you
Speaker 1: are right now, it's absolutely perfect too. Next, still with
Speaker 1: your hand over heart. If you're there breathing into your heartbeat,
Speaker 1: breathing out two more like that, breathing deeply in and
Speaker 1: deeply out last one, deeply in and out. Next, you
Speaker 1: can lower your hand or keep it there. Your choice
Speaker 1: will close in a moment. But in the next few seconds,
Speaker 1: I'd like for you to invite in an intention for yourself.
Speaker 1: Keep it small, keep it simple, could be a word.
Speaker 1: It can be for this moment. It can be for
Speaker 1: the rest of your day, can be for your week,
Speaker 1: for your month, for your year. Ask yourself what you need.
Speaker 1: Let it come through from the belly, from your base,
Speaker 1: from your intuitively guided unus. Feel it rising up and
Speaker 1: suddenly into your heart. If you need to borrow one,
Speaker 1: you can use I M B I am present where
Speaker 1: the word breathe, maybe even laugh more. Whatever it is
Speaker 1: that came through, it is perfect. Letting that go now
Speaker 1: We're going to close our little meditative moment, and I'm
Speaker 1: actually going to give you maybe ten to twenty seconds
Speaker 1: of silence just for you, right here, right now. Three
Speaker 1: final breaths in this space before we close on your own,
Speaker 1: make them quiet and soft or yummy and big. Last one,
Speaker 1: and when you're ready, gently opening your eyes coming into
Speaker 1: your space, I like to give my heart a little rub,
Speaker 1: say thank you, thank you for being here, thank you
Speaker 1: for beating for me. Thank you for giving me an
Speaker 1: internal metronome that I can feel any time I need to,
Speaker 1: that pulse, that calm and that strength. I must say, amen,
Speaker 1: peace out. That was so beautiful, Robin. Thank you for
Speaker 1: your time, your energy, your wisdom. I'm so excited to
Speaker 1: go and open up my Thin from Within book and
Speaker 1: go with your gut and make some plans for this
Speaker 1: week and the belly health that I'm going to attempt.
Speaker 1: I've got this. I love you. Thank you for being
Speaker 1: on Katie's crib. Tell us all your social channels again. So,
Speaker 1: Robin Eucolus, it's a tricky name. R O B Y
Speaker 1: and y O U K I L I S. But
Speaker 1: my first book is go with your Gut's pretty easy.
Speaker 1: Remember it's on Amazon, Barnes and Noble everywhere books are sold,
Speaker 1: and then you can see my name from there. I
Speaker 1: mostly hang out on Instagram and then on my website
Speaker 1: is also Robin Euclus dot com. Come hang out with me,
Speaker 1: Say hi, say you're from Katie's Crib. It's an amazing
Speaker 1: follow I have to say, it's just an amazing followed.
Speaker 1: During this time, there's offerings of meditation and recipes and
Speaker 1: grounded work and just inspiring mama stuff to help get
Speaker 1: us all through. Um. You guys, thank you for list
Speaker 1: stening to Katie's Crib. Subscribe, tell your friends, follow us
Speaker 1: on social channels at Katie's Crib, and email me any ideas, thoughts, suggestions.
Speaker 1: We're all in this together, you guys. I love you all.
Speaker 1: Katie's Crib at Shonda land dot com. Ah my word
Speaker 1: was peace, So I offer that and give that to
Speaker 1: all of you all listening. Hopefully we were able to
Speaker 1: provide a little peace during this podcast. Thank you, Robert.
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