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Speaker 1: your heads to ram shooter. And it is Tuesday, which

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Speaker 1: means our dear friend Delena Dixon is with us.

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Speaker 2: Mister there, I'm here this week. I'm so sorry I

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Speaker 2: missed you guys last week. It made me so sad.

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Speaker 1: I know, I'm sorry too. We plowed ahead without you,

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Speaker 1: but we definitely missed you in a big day to day.

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Speaker 1: We are not a political show, but it is election day,

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Speaker 1: so we are encouraging you to get out and vote. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: use it, mister. You your right to make a decision.

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Speaker 3: I voted last week.

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Speaker 2: I'm actually in Georgia with my family, so I'll be

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Speaker 2: here for the election results. But it's so important to

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Speaker 2: exercise your democratic right. So many people fought for it.

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Speaker 3: It's quite the rush.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I get emotional. I voted a couple of days ago.

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Speaker 1: In New York, you're allowed to vote before election day,

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Speaker 1: but it is quite difficult, I must admit, Like they

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Speaker 1: definitely checked everything and they checked to see who I was. Like,

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Speaker 1: a box. Thank you, thank you, thang you. Okay, let's

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Speaker 1: jump into as show. What time is it? My friends?

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Speaker 1: It is tea time big scandal at the top of

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Speaker 1: the show, and bra is rejoicing this news. So the

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Speaker 1: lawyer's behind the reality reckoning. Do you remember that when

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Speaker 1: Bethany Frankel and her lawyers said there was going to

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Speaker 1: be a reckoning, they didn't give us any details, but

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Speaker 1: allegedly were pushing Tom Scanderval to turn on the network.

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Speaker 1: Let me explain. So, in a surprise twist, the lawyers

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Speaker 1: that were behind the Reality recoring crusade. It was Brian

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Speaker 1: Freeman and Mark Garagos. You will know him because he

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Speaker 1: was Michael Jackson's lawyer. He's a huge lawyer, Misty. If

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Speaker 1: you saw his face, you definitely recognize him. He's always

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Speaker 1: on TV. They were working with brother alum Bethany Frankel,

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Speaker 1: of it. However, now Tom is saying that during this

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Speaker 1: Tom alleges that both Friedman and Garagos offered to drop

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Speaker 1: that the Reality Reckoning campaign, it was initially launched to

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Speaker 1: this campaign itself is looking very shaky, Misty.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it almost sounds like an NBC drama in

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Speaker 2: But you know, I can't say I know much about

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Speaker 2: how law works. That is that my family business. My

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely right, mistake. They can approach people and they say,

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Speaker 1: What is not right is if you're offering quick pro quo,

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Speaker 2: Well, what I find very interesting is I wonder why

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Speaker 2: Tom decided to bring this to light. I mean, first

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Speaker 2: just curious. Tom, you get, you get, you get a

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Speaker 3: You're doing the right thing.

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Speaker 1: You did the right thing. But what's going on here

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Speaker 1: vander Pump Rules. I think it's on hiatus, so there's

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Speaker 1: I'm sure Tom now will be invited back. Like he's

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Speaker 1: and Bethany Bethany and Bravo, it's over mindsight is telling

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Speaker 2: And when you think about it, I mean, it's NBC Universal,

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Speaker 2: I felt that I was treated wrong, But there's always

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Speaker 2: And she took a chance. Maybe there's an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: It's not looking it is not looking good, which brings

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Speaker 1: who were behind their reality reckoning, have been caught allegedly

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Speaker 1: pushing Tom Scandavola to turn on Bravo. Is Bethany's case

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Speaker 1: to hear your results. Hey, Mysteve, what are you working

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Speaker 2: I got a little news about Tom Holland and it

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Speaker 2: googles her to ease his anxiety and make sure she's okay. Now,

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Speaker 2: Google look through the news and I'm like, she's good,

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Speaker 1: I don't like this. It's really creepy. Text her and

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Speaker 1: ask her. My friends want to know what's going on

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Speaker 1: This reminds me of that boyfriend that's starting now to

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Speaker 1: a little look because of my anxiety. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: stop it. It's an invasion of privacy. Now, googling somebody

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Speaker 1: it's not. It's really you don't trust her, or you

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Speaker 1: that's a really bad place to be in. And if

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Speaker 1: I think they're adorable together. But if you're insecure, then

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Speaker 1: you've had with folks, and if you're insecure in that relationship,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, maybe what he meant to say.

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Speaker 2: because miss de loves love, and I'm gonna say maybe

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Speaker 3: Maybe he thought he was being like self deprecating.

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Speaker 2: But you know what, some thing's about relationships you just

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Speaker 1: Yep. And you're quite a private couple. They're not Kardashians,

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Speaker 1: found out what did he had for his dinner, his food,

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Speaker 1: his breakfast in prison, So he spent his fifty fifth

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Speaker 1: It's not the luxury. I'm not pretending for one second

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Speaker 1: that this is luxurious. I've never been in a prison.

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Speaker 1: I've never seen a prison kitchen. I would imagine it's

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Speaker 1: very much like a school dinner. I've been in many

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Speaker 1: school dinners. I've had lots of those. But it doesn't

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Speaker 2: Let me I do, because if you guys don't know,

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Speaker 2: my mom is actually a retired warden in New York State,

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Speaker 2: and she has the funniest T shirt that basically says,

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