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I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobelt Podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: John Covelt Show. 4 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 2: We are on every day from one until four o'clock 5 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 2: and then after four o'clock John Cobelt Show on demand 6 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: on the iHeart app. That's the podcast, same as the 7 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 2: radio show, and that's where you listen to what you missed. 8 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 2: I don't want to waste any time going through all 9 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: the spectacular stuff today that we have on This is 10 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: like Christmas morning, but we have to first get to 11 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: some breaking news that is occurring now in Washington, d C. 12 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 2: We're going to talk to the Washington correspondent at News Nation, 13 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 2: Joe Khalil, because the House a short time ago approved 14 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:45,599 Speaker 2: a bill telling the Justice Department to finally release all 15 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 2: the Jeffrey Epstein files. It was nearly unanimous, the vote 16 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: four hundred and twenty seven to one. Then it's going 17 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: to go to the Senate. Trump a few days ago 18 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: stunned everybody by saying he'll sign it, and what's in it? 19 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: After all this time? Well, let's talk to Joe Khalil, 20 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: see what's going on. How are you, Joe? Hey, good, 21 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: how are you doing I'm fine. This was a big 22 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 2: u turn in a very short time, and I guess 23 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: maybe by the end of the day it will pass. 24 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it really was. We went from just 25 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 3: a couple days ago thinking it was going to pass 26 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 3: the House, but you'd have more than one hundred Republicans 27 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 3: possibly voting against it, and then it was probably go 28 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 3: to go nowhere in the Senate, like it was unlikely 29 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 3: the Senate was going to take this up at all. 30 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 3: That was the reality a couple days ago. Now ever, 31 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 3: since President Trump shifted his position on this, and it 32 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 3: was a shift despite what you might hear from the administration. 33 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 3: It was on Thursday he was trying to kill the villain. 34 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 3: We have direct reporting he was calling members of Congress 35 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 3: asking them to take their name off the petition that 36 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 3: allowed for this vote to happen. Sunday night, he shifted 37 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 3: and said, okay, Republicans vote for it, then vote for it, 38 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 3: because I have nothing to hide. Let's get this over with. 39 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 3: And effectively they took that as a green light, and 40 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 3: they did four hundred and twenty seven to one. With 41 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 3: the vote that overwhelming, it almost makes it impossible for 42 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 3: the Senate to ignore it and not take it up, 43 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 3: So the reality is totally different. We're hearing that the 44 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 3: Senate might take it up as early as tonight. It 45 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 3: seems more likely that maybe tomorrow or later in the week. 46 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 3: But it seems Leader Foon in the Senate is going 47 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 3: to take it up and it is going to President 48 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 3: Trump's desk where he says he is going to sign it. 49 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: And these are more files because they just had a 50 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 2: huge file dump a few days ago that they one 51 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: of the committees released and the Democrats were releasing let's 52 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 2: set you go ahead. 53 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Oversight Committee has been doing this investigation and 54 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 3: they've been releasing sort of tranch by tronch by tronch. 55 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 3: So there are I'm not exactly sure how many files, 56 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 3: how many documents the way that the Congressman Thomas Massey, 57 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 3: the Republican from Kentucky put it to me, we interviewed him. 58 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 3: He's one of the three, one of the two members 59 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 3: that are really behind this effort. 60 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 4: He basically said. 61 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,679 Speaker 3: You know what we've not seen is any name other 62 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 3: than Jeffrey Epstein, any offender, any person who may have 63 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 3: committed one of these alleged sex crimes or trafficked women. 64 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 3: And he says, that is really what we want to see. 65 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 3: And those names, he says, are in these documents, those 66 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 3: have not been released. So if you get a full 67 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 3: release of all the documents, presumably you're going to get 68 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 3: some people either in the FBI or witnesses or people 69 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 3: that have seen things and given private testimony that will 70 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 3: come out. So this, you know, we'll see if the 71 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 3: DOJ follows up or if there's any sort of snag 72 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 3: in the process. 73 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: Well, to the extent that people have any interest in this, 74 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 2: they want to hear the big names and then want 75 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: to know what they were doing with Epstein and the girls. 76 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 2: Presumably this release from the Department of Justice will have 77 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 2: all that juicy information. 78 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, if they release everything, then you would imagine, yes, 79 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 3: that they would. That's why several of these these Epstein 80 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 3: victims or survivors they call themselves survivors, were advocating, you know, 81 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 3: for months actually for this bill because that's what they 82 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 3: want to see. They want, they want the Justice Department 83 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 3: to release those names and to prosecute those for whom 84 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 3: there is evidence that they've committed wrongdoing, if they've committed 85 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 3: something that's illegal. So presumably that information that the public's 86 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 3: been sort of yearning for for some time now. The 87 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 3: DT would have and would be able to release if 88 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 3: it exists. 89 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 2: Now the Justice Department is really going to release it, 90 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: or is it going to get stalled somehow bureaucratically or 91 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 2: a lot of it's going to be redacted and blacked out. 92 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 2: Because I've been down there's roads so many times with 93 00:04:56,200 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 2: these alleged Epstein bombshells, and most of the time turns 94 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 2: out to be a dud. I don't think we know 95 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 2: anything more than we knew ten years ago. 96 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 3: I think that's exactly right. I think you've hit the 97 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 3: nail on the head. That's why I think people have 98 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 3: been so frustrated, and you really started to see I mean, 99 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 3: I struggled to think of when you think of the 100 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 3: MAGA base and any moment in the last you know, 101 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 3: ten twelve years they have broken from President Trump. I 102 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 3: don't really remember any significant ones other than when the 103 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 3: Attorney General Pam Bondi said, you know, the Epstein files 104 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 3: are coming coming tomorrow, and that was a few months ago, 105 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 3: and then it was sort of a dudg. She released 106 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 3: information that had already been made public. So I think 107 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 3: even the very loyal base. They've been frustrated. I think 108 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 3: they are skeptical that the DOJ is going to release 109 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 3: all of the information that they have. I think a 110 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 3: lot of people are skeptical about that. So really, time 111 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 3: is going to tell. But what I will say is 112 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 3: that what's interesting about this build it's not like some 113 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 3: bills up a resolution or like a statement. This is 114 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 3: the force of law now. So when President signs this bill, 115 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 3: what that means is if the Department of Justice has files, 116 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 3: has information and refuses to release them by this bill, 117 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 3: that will be law. They are violating the US law. 118 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 3: So that certainly changes the game a little bit. But 119 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 3: I wouldn't question anybody who's skeptical about whether we're going 120 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 3: to get information or not. 121 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: Joe, I know you got to go. Thank you for 122 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 1: coming on with us. 123 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 3: Really appreciate it. Thank you. 124 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 2: Joe Khalil Washington, correspondent for NewsNation House has passed a 125 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 2: bill for twenty seven to one to release the all 126 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: the Epstein documents that the Department of Justice has when 127 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: we come back. This is the big story locally today. 128 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 2: I thought it was a hoax when Eric first sent 129 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 2: it to us this morning. 130 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: I'm not making this up. 131 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 2: The Los Angeles Times has given a prestigious award Inspirational 132 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 2: Women to Janie Kinz, the woman who never filled the 133 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 2: reservoir in the Palisades. 134 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: Unbelievable. We'll talk about it. We come back. 135 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 136 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 5: six forty. 137 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 2: John Cobelt Show and moistline is eight seven seven Moist 138 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 2: eighty six, eight seven seven Moist eighty six or usually 139 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 2: talkback feature on the iHeartRadio app. And we'll play him 140 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 2: back twice on Friday. I'm looking I woke up this 141 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 2: morning and I couldn't believe well Eric sent it. I'm 142 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: just looking at the text eight twenty two this morning, 143 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: series of texts, and I'm thinking, this is a hoax. 144 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 2: This is some internet meme. This is something that's spinning 145 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: around on Twitter. It's a parody, right, It's a sattire 146 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: and it's not Genie Kinonyez. She is the head of 147 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: the LA's Department of Water and Power, the DWP. She 148 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: was hired for seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars a 149 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: year that was double the salary of the previous head 150 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: of the DWP. Infamously, she drained the Palisades Reservoir, all 151 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: one hundred and seventeen million gallons of it, because there 152 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 2: was a torn cover, think of like a torn pool cover. 153 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 2: You probably know this story, and so they had to 154 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 2: fix the cover. Well they didn't for a year. They 155 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 2: drained one hundred and seventeen million gallons and. 156 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: Left it empty. This is her decision, left it empty. 157 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: This was the primary source of water for the fire 158 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: department if you have a fire. Eleven months went by. 159 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 2: They drained it in February of twenty twenty four. Here 160 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 2: it comes the dry season, nine months no rain. Now 161 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 2: we're into the sant Ana win season. Fire starts whole 162 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 2: separate scandal, geniese conunions, and those eleven months never filled 163 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 2: up the reservoir. Never criminal negligence. Twelve people died, almost 164 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 2: seven thousand homes destroyed. Now, in any other world that 165 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 2: I've ever existed in, and I don't know how many 166 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 2: other worlds I've lived in, but somebody who makes such 167 00:09:53,080 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 2: a catastrophic, stupid decision would be fired, should be indicted 168 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 2: and charged seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars. 169 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: She gets. 170 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 2: She drains a reservoir, a huge one, A gigantic one. 171 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 2: If it's empty, it's impossible, impossible to put out a wildfire. Instead, 172 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: what Eric said this morning was a link to an 173 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 2: LA Times dot com page the fifth annual Inspirational Women's 174 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: Form and Leadership Awards celebrating women redefining leadership across Los Angeles. 175 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 2: This exclusive event brought together LA's top executives, entrepreneurs and 176 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 2: change makers and they handed out these awards and they 177 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 2: gave on to Genie kenon Yez. They the Los Angeles 178 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 2: Times gave an award to Jennie's Keys for her accomplishments 179 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 2: as a woman. No, really, it happened. Kenez got an 180 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 2: award from the LA Times. They reported how incompetent she 181 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 2: was at draining the reservoir and not filling it back up. 182 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 2: They broke that story. They identified her and it. 183 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: Wasn't that long ago. 184 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 2: That was this year, and now they decide she gets 185 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 2: an award. Here's her bio page at the LA Times. 186 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 2: I hope you haven't had lunch. Janise Kenonias is a 187 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 2: distinguished executive with over twenty five years of leadership experience, 188 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 2: currently serving as the Chief executive officer and Chief Engineer 189 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 2: of the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power, the 190 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 2: nation's largest publicly owned water and power utility. Since her 191 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: appointment in May of twenty twenty four, she's led a 192 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 2: workforce of nearly twelve thousand employees in delivering get this safe, 193 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: reliable water and power to four million. 194 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 1: Residents and overcharging us. 195 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 2: Overcharging us, Well, somebody's got to pay the seven hundred 196 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: and fifty thousand dollars. So she takes over in May. 197 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 2: They had decided they were closing the reservoir in February. 198 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 2: By the way, the work to fix the cover took 199 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 2: a month and it wasn't that much money. 200 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: But May. 201 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 2: June, July, August, September, October, November, December into January, reservoirs dry, 202 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 2: ken unions never refilled. It, never fixed, the cover, never 203 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 2: refilled the reservoir. Fire happens, thousands of buildings destroyed, and 204 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 2: twelve people die, literally die in a fire. On top 205 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,599 Speaker 2: of that, she never had the power turned off for 206 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: parts of Palisades, and then those wires crashed to the 207 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 2: ground and started new fires. And she gets an Inspirational 208 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 2: Women's Leadership Award. Is everybody insane or something happened to me? 209 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 2: I'm thinking, I'm not even on the air right now, 210 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 2: that I went crazy and they put me in a 211 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 2: booth to simulate a radio studio, and I don't even 212 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 2: know I'm not on the air, but I'm actually in 213 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: an insane asylum right now, and they run video of 214 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 2: view just to entertain me on this TV screen. 215 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 1: No, this is real. 216 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 6: I couldn't believe it either when it Eric scented this morning, 217 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 6: did you see? 218 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: I thought it was I. I just couldn't believe it. 219 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 2: I don't understand. And you know the thing about this, Eric, nobody, 220 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 2: nobody explains like there's nobody at. 221 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: The LA Times. How can you look? 222 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: I want to I thought their fire coverage was really good. 223 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 2: I've said that many times and I still do. But 224 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: how do you do that kind of coverage? Pinpointing her 225 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 2: major role in why the fire wasn't put out at 226 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: all until everything that could burn burn. They had no 227 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 2: they had no water. Fire hydrants were all dry. They 228 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 2: had three one million gallon tanks sitting in the in 229 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 2: the hills there, and those ran dry. I think by 230 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 2: early the first evening of the fire, and then the 231 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 2: one hundred and seventeen million gallon hole in the ground, 232 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 2: and I've driven there and I've seen it, and it 233 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 2: was a massive hole. In fact, there was a second reservoir, 234 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 2: much smaller, called the Chautauqua Reservoir that was empty too, And. 235 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: I'll never forget. 236 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 2: In the early days of the fire, Rick Caruso came 237 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 2: on and he said, almost in passing, the reservoirs were empty, 238 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 2: and that like I noticed he said that, but there 239 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 2: were so many other things we were talking about, so 240 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 2: he knew. He knew right away that the reservoirs are empty, 241 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: like a lot of people in government must have known 242 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 2: a lot of business people. 243 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: This astonishes me. 244 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 2: I guess, of all the pieces of this puzzle, this 245 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 2: one astonishes me, you know, as much as anything. How 246 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 2: could you? How could you? It's the fire season, said 247 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 2: in a wins I nine months of dry weather. How 248 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 2: could she do this? She's never apologized, she never talks 249 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 2: about it. We have one of our listeners who actually 250 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 2: goes to the meetings. I've seen I've seen video of 251 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 2: some of the things. She never discusses it. And this 252 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 2: is where I start to question my sanity. And maybe 253 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 2: that's the point. The point is is there. They do 254 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 2: not address reality at all. They pretend that our reality 255 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 2: never happened, and so we go on talking about it, 256 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 2: living with it, reacting to it. After a while, it's like, 257 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 2: I guess I'm crazy. Maybe none of this really happened. 258 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 2: Maybe when I drive to the Pali sides, maybe all 259 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 2: the buildings still are there and all the people are 260 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 2: still walking around and shopping. 261 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: You see how you question your sanity after a while. 262 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 7: I would love to have been in that meeting where 263 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 7: they made that decision to give her the award? 264 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: Yes, what did they say? 265 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,359 Speaker 2: Who nominated her? Who said, you know, how about Genie Knez? 266 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 2: And they go, oh, it's a great eye, and why. 267 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: Would you do this? 268 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 6: Dude? 269 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 2: You imagine everybody in the Palisades right now, maybe right 270 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 2: now they're hearing this for the first time, their heads 271 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 2: are exploding. Daniel Guss is coming on next. He's the 272 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 2: independent journalist here in Los Angeles, and he's got a 273 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 2: lot to say about the LA Times giving Denise Keez 274 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 2: an Inspirational Women Forum and Leadership Award. 275 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 276 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 5: six forty. 277 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 2: Bron every day from one until four o'clock. After four 278 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 2: o'clock John Cobelt Show on demand. That's the podcast version, 279 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 2: and that's where you listen to whatever you missed. 280 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: And we are now going. 281 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 2: To continue with this new shocking insanity. The La Times 282 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: gave an award to Denice z the woman who runs 283 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 2: the DWP makes seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars and 284 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 2: she didn't fill up the reservoir and so there was 285 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 2: no water in the one hundred and seventeen million gallon 286 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 2: reservoir Pacific Palisades when the fire hit. And instead of 287 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: her being charged criminally with negligence or some kind of incompetence, 288 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 2: instead of her being. 289 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 1: Fired, she got an award at the. 290 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 2: Inspirational Women Forum and Leadership Awards. 291 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: Denise CONONYAZ Daniel Guss. 292 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 2: He has a substack page Danielgus dot substack dot com. 293 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 2: Independent local journalist, one of the few we have that 294 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 2: covers all the craziness. All right, let's get Daniel on. 295 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 2: Daniel knows a lot about what goes on inside the 296 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 2: La Times. Although as jaded as you are about them, 297 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 2: you must got knocked back by this one. 298 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 4: Oh my god, on it ends, it never ends, and 299 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 4: it's even worse than you realize. So Yeah, So the 300 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 4: Los Angeles Times decided to post a story, by the way, 301 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 4: such an important story that was written by an intern 302 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 4: who plays volleyball at San Diego City College. Nothing against her, 303 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 4: but it was so important they put the story in 304 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 4: the hands of an intern. And what they don't show 305 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 4: on the page about this award show is that it 306 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 4: appears to have been a sponsored event. And it looks 307 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 4: like the LA Times basically nominated every woman in the 308 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 4: executive suite of Los Angeles, because there must have been 309 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 4: one hundred men nominated for these awards. And I have 310 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 4: a feeling, John, that the employers of every one of 311 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 4: these nominees was probably hit up for a a sponsorship donation. 312 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 4: Oh and what they didn't tell you, John, is that 313 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 4: tickets to the event cost four hundred and sixty eight dollars. 314 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 4: A ticket is about five grand. 315 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 2: Table you tell me people paid over four hundred dollars 316 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 2: to sit in an award show where Genie Cononiez, who 317 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 2: helped burn down the Palisades, got one of the awards. 318 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 2: I mean, this woman, this woman helped burn down an 319 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 2: entire section of Los Angeles and then the Times gives 320 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 2: her an award and people pay a lot of money 321 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 2: to watch or get the award. 322 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 4: Well, you get a rubber chicken for it, apparently, you know, 323 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 4: and the good lord four hundred and sixty seven dollars 324 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 4: a ticket a little less if you wanted to go 325 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 4: to the early seminar. And they're sitting there and it's 326 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 4: and her bio mentions nothing about the fact that she 327 00:20:55,320 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 4: tore down thousands of homes through what appears to the 328 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 4: average person to be gross negligence. Yeah, it's like, what 329 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 4: is going on with the Times. It's as if it's 330 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 4: as if they don't realize that the California Post is 331 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 4: entering the frame right on the horizon. 332 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 2: But they broke the story about the reservoir being empty. 333 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: I don't I don't understand. 334 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 2: Their news department said, yeah, she ran the DWP when 335 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 2: the reservoir was empty and never filled. It was her responsibility. 336 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 2: Her primary responsibility was to get that reservoir filled before 337 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 2: fire season hit. 338 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 4: And what the La Times is, right, John, what the 339 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 4: La Times is doing here and they got into a 340 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 4: lot of troubleness in the past is where they blur 341 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 4: the lines between opinion and news and what's called their 342 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 4: Business to Business section, which this appears to be a 343 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 4: revenue generating event. But of all of the women Los 344 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 4: Angels other than Genie Bus, she's Denise's. 345 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 2: I'm sure there's hundreds of women you could honor in 346 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 2: Los Angeles for their business accomplishments. Why her Nobody at 347 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 2: the meeting said, way, wait, hold on, she she'ldn't filt 348 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 2: the damn reservoir. The waist burned down. That's not a 349 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,719 Speaker 2: good idea. And can you imagine, you imagine what it 350 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,239 Speaker 2: feels like for people in the Palisades to wake up. 351 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 2: They go to a website and they see that woman, 352 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 2: Denise Cononias, that woman is getting award from the La Times. 353 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 2: You talk about a gut punch, a kick in the head, 354 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 2: people who lost their their family members in that fire 355 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 2: to see that this lady is getting. 356 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: Is getting rewarded. 357 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, and she's as you said, she's getting virtually double 358 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 4: what her predecessor got. And if you remember, Karen Bess said, well, 359 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 4: we need to pay her seven hundred and fifty grand 360 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,719 Speaker 4: to draw the best karent and so so her talent 361 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 4: is what is what Caravas cited as the need for 362 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 4: her for her to get that salary. But it's David 363 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 4: worse than that. John. The Quinonius thing is certainly the 364 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 4: most glaring thing of this. One of the moderators, one 365 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 4: of the moderators for one of these panels, is the 366 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 4: assistant managing editor of The Times, Angel Jennings. You want 367 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 4: to talk about how this is just a cauldron of 368 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 4: stupidity and insanity, then one of the moderators, Assistant editor 369 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 4: Angel Jennings, five years ago suite Times for bias and 370 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 4: and got part of a three million dollars settlement. So 371 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 4: they don't mention Angel Jennings being part of a three 372 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 4: million dollar bias lawsuit against The Times. They don't mention 373 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 4: the Jennie Qunonians. They talk about her helping the recovery 374 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:59,719 Speaker 4: after the fire, but they don't. Yeah, they talked in her, 375 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 4: are you They say, well, she helps it part of 376 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 4: the recovery. Yeah, but she's the one who virtually made 377 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 4: it a thousand times worse than it needed to be. 378 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 2: It made it impossible to put out the fire. There 379 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 2: was literally no water available at all. There was a 380 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 2: second reservoir empty that she had jurisdiction over. 381 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: The hydrants were busted and empty. Everybody was standing around. 382 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 2: Watching the Palisades burn because nobody brought the water to 383 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 2: put out the fire. 384 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 4: Right right, And the only person who I think could 385 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 4: have been a worse nominee would have been Karen Beth. 386 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 4: I mean, based on what base that they don't tell 387 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 4: you what the inspiration she does. Well, sure it's inspirational 388 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 4: that she she's making, you know, teven hundred and fifty grand. 389 00:24:55,240 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 2: A child corn could could point at a hole and said, 390 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 2: what should go in there, mommy? 391 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 6: Water? 392 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: Well, why don't they fill it with water? 393 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 4: I mean, all right, Well, and then it gets into 394 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 4: the whole thing about the gets into the whole thing 395 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 4: about the water versus the fire. Hydrants. Oh, Jill don't 396 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 4: have answers, and we won't have answers on it. 397 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 2: We're going to get the answers. Nobody's going to give 398 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,479 Speaker 2: up until we get the answers. This was too deadly 399 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 2: and too destructive. Daniel Gush, thank you for coming on. 400 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 2: When we come back, John, when we come back. Roger Bailey, 401 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 2: he's an attorney representing thousands of Pacific Palisades residents who 402 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 2: homes were destroyed in the fire. It looks like that 403 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 2: the state was lying to a court when they claim 404 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 2: that the state never knew that the fire on January 405 00:25:55,400 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 2: first had happened. You know the whole controversy over the 406 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 2: LA Fire Department not putting out that fire and then 407 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 2: it restarted on January seventh. Well, it started on state 408 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 2: land and the state was trying to claim, well, we 409 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 2: didn't know about the January first flier fire. That was 410 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 2: a lie, and somebody for the state lied in court. 411 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 2: We'll tell you all about it we come back. 412 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 413 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 5: six forty. 414 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 2: After Debra's news at two o'clock, we're gonna have Roger 415 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 2: Bailey on an attorney for thousand specific Palisades residents, more 416 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 2: than three thousand of them, and they've got to court. 417 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 2: This fire started on state land, and the allegations say 418 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 2: that the mismanagement by the state caused the wildfire. Remember 419 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 2: it started on January first on California state land, and 420 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 2: the state lied in court about their role. We're going 421 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 2: to play you a story about New Nation anchor Elizabeth 422 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 2: Vargas and the reporter Rich McHugh on new documents that 423 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 2: revealed a California State rep was in the Palisades a 424 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 2: week before the big fire, right after the January first 425 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 2: fire play it. 426 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 7: We have new exclusive details on the investigation into the 427 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 7: handling of the deadly Palisades Fire in California. News Nation 428 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 7: investigative correspondent Rich McHugh obtained documents that may show that 429 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 7: the state is in fact solely responsible for that fire 430 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 7: and possibly for the deaths of the twelve people who died. 431 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 7: Last week, our exclusive reporting found that a state representative 432 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 7: was present near the burn scar, which had all the 433 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 7: embers deep underground of a fire that had not been 434 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 7: completely turned out. Well, it eventually turned into the Palisades Fire, 435 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 7: and apparently, according to our reporting, a state representative was 436 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 7: on the scene ordering firefighters around, telling them where they 437 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 7: could and could not go. Well, tonight, we not only 438 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 7: of confirmation that a state representative was there, but we 439 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 7: now know exactly when they arrived and why. News Nation's 440 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 7: Rich M. Hugh joins us now with this exclusive. Rich, 441 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 7: tell us what more you've managed to uncover. 442 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 8: Well, it's really shocking and ultimately comes down to two 443 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 8: really big questions. Number One, did state mismanagement ultimately cause 444 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 8: the Palisades Fire? 445 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 6: And did they lie about it in court? 446 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 8: I'll lie about all of it in court, and these 447 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 8: new documents that we've obtained suggests that that's absolutely what happened. Now, 448 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,360 Speaker 8: this all began in the early morning hours of January one, 449 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 8: when an alleged arsenist started the Lackman Fire, and we 450 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 8: know underground embers reignited six days later, starting a second, 451 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 8: more devastating fire that was the Palisades Fire. In response 452 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 8: to a lawsuit from over three thousand Palisades residents alleging 453 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 8: the state failed to monitor embers from that initial fire, 454 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 8: Governor Newsom's office told news Nation. 455 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 6: The state didn't start this fire. 456 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 8: That was an arsonist and the state wasn't responsible for 457 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 8: responding to or monitoring this fire. 458 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 6: Now, new court filing as. 459 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 8: The State goes further and says the Palisades victims cannot 460 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 8: allege the state that the state had noticed of the lock. 461 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 6: And fire because it never had notice. 462 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 8: State records show a call at twelve twenty seven am 463 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 8: on January one, but with the rest of the incident 464 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 8: report redacted completely blacked out, basically including their response to 465 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 8: that call. But a Los Angeles Fire Department record tells. 466 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 9: Us all the details and the lafd's record show not 467 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 9: only did the LAFD notify the state just after midnight, 468 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 9: the state sent a park representative at one forty six 469 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 9: in the morning on January one, and that state park 470 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 9: representative arrived on scene at four am on January one. 471 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 8: Now that Los Angeles Fire Department incident report shows what 472 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 8: the state will not That the Los Angeles Fire Department 473 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 8: contacted the state after midnight on January one and a 474 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 8: State park rep arrived onseen by four am. 475 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 9: If the state had no responsibility for this land, why 476 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 9: are they sending a state park rep. The state is 477 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 9: playing hide the ball. They're not being transparent with the public. 478 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 9: Tell us that you sent a state park rep. Tell 479 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,479 Speaker 9: us what that state park rep did. Tell us on 480 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 9: the next stage, January two, that you sent another state 481 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 9: park rep who directed firefighters and said they couldn't bulldoze all. 482 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 8: These specific questions, Elizabeth, We have asked the Governor Newsom's 483 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 8: office and the California State Parks and they've declined to 484 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 8: answer all of them. 485 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 2: And we have a photo we've put on all our 486 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 2: social media pages. You can go to Twitter, x, you 487 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 2: can go to TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, look at the photo 488 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 2: and you'll see LA Fire Department personnel talking to a 489 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 2: state representative that was said down the day of the 490 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 2: original fire on January first, and they were there on 491 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 2: January second, apparently was telling firefighters that they couldn't bulldoze. 492 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 2: So somebody was lying in court. Somebody representing Gavin Newsom 493 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 2: in the state of California lied in court to a 494 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 2: judge and claimed that these plaintiffs in the Palisades don't 495 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 2: have a case because the state never knew about the fire. 496 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 2: It started on state land. They had a rep there. 497 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 2: Roger Bailey, who you heard in that report with Dowstation, 498 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 2: coming on with his next Deborah Mark Live in the 499 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 2: KFI twenty four our newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to 500 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 2: the John Covelt Show podcast. 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