1 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: Revee, reveale. 2 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 2: Look at this now tempted. 3 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: Jesus using will be luck it's time to bang. 4 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 3: Well, well, well, look who it is. It's the twenty 5 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 3: eighth of February twenty twenty five, and y'all are gonna 6 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 3: have to see defeat like a podiatrist. What's up everyone? Hey, 7 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 3: there's that auto focus on VC's camera. Hi there, it's 8 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 3: time for morning combat. We got a lot to get 9 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 3: to today, but first things first, let's intro ourselves. Hello there, 10 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 3: My name is Luke Thomas. I am one half of 11 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 3: your hosting duo. I join you from the Capitol right 12 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 3: here in Washington, DC, and I believe my friend and 13 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 3: partner here is normally the King of Connecticut, like once 14 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 3: Jadakis accused fifty cent of being But I believe he's 15 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,559 Speaker 3: in New York City or maybe you're in Brooklyn right now? Correct? 16 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 2: Yes, I am yes, Ian Campbell. 17 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 3: What's out, Brian Campbell? 18 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: I was thinking nobody raises the roof anymore, Luke, like 19 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: we did back in the nineties. You want to bring 20 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 2: that back today? 21 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 3: I don't, though I don't. 22 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 2: Well, Hey, happy to be here. This should be a 23 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: great show, Luke, may possible. Why is that outside chance 24 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 2: because it's Friday. All the people out there ain't got 25 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: chat to do, right, Let's just let's talk fights and 26 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: bang dooey. 27 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 3: Right, come on, I listen. We I don't know how 28 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 3: much you've talked about this. I'm surprised there's not been 29 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 3: a little bit more chatter about it. Can you tell 30 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 3: the folks why you're in Brooklyn because of what you're 31 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 3: doing tomorrow? And I feel like, I know you try 32 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 3: out to make it all about you, but dude, this 33 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 3: is your show, this is our lives. Why don't you 34 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 3: tell them what happened? 35 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? Thank you very much. Which I will be on 36 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: the call Saturday night, PBC on Prime Pay per View 37 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: from the Barclay Center in Brooklyn. Tank Davis versus Lamont, 38 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 2: Roach Junior. Let's fricking go fired up live in the 39 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: Dream Climb in the Mountains, Luke, I'm ready, I'm ready 40 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 2: to deliver more. Ronalo, Abner Marris is going to be 41 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: a wild time. 42 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 3: On set, by the way, a big to do a 43 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 3: big DC affair. Obviously Lamont from the area. Jervante training 44 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 3: at Headbangers in Southeast DC. Also your co name Gary 45 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 3: Antoine Russell, Junior U well no, sorry, this is Gary 46 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 3: and Twine Russell. Yes, sorry, there's there's like there's like 47 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 3: nine of them, Like I just say Junior by accident. 48 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 3: But Gary Antoine, uh, he'll be in the co main 49 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 3: event and by the way, a sleeper of a co 50 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 3: main event if ever there was one. So it's I'm 51 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 3: I'm dude. I gotta tell you. I'm so proud of you. 52 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 3: I really am. Listen. I doubt you even showered this morning, 53 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 3: and I bet your breath and butt stink. But as 54 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 3: your friend and longtime partner, man, I am legitimately so 55 00:02:58,600 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 3: proud of you. 56 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: Thank you, really happy for thank you. That is that 57 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 2: is wonderful. Thank you. I did, however, I did clean 58 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 2: my buttthole in the shower. Have not brushed my teeth 59 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 2: yet though, so you know. There you go. 60 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that was half right. Let's bring in the 61 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 3: third member here of the team, who also probably doesn't 62 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 3: wash his ass. It's long island. 63 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 4: What's doing a matter of fact, I did this morning? Okay, 64 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 4: all right, going on, brother, I'm good dude, how are 65 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 4: you doing? 66 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 3: Good? Good good? What's what's the plan for the weekend? 67 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 3: Gonna ignore your girlfriend some more so. 68 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 4: She's on vacation in Key Wes for the weekend shout out. 69 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 4: So I'm doing the full card tomorrow. UFC Vegas one 70 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 4: of three does not deserve it, but I'm doing the 71 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 4: entire card and then we'll tune into BC's commentary afterwards. 72 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 3: What time? What time does the main card start for 73 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 3: the UFC fights? 74 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 5: Do we know? Seven? Seven overlap? 75 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 4: We'll probably miss the first fight or two on the 76 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 4: main card on PBC, but we'll catch the Comaine in Maine. 77 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 3: I'm thinking probably can catch the Comain and Mane. Okay, 78 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 3: very very good. 79 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 6: Yeah. 80 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: PBC starts at eight the pay per view eight Eastern 81 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,119 Speaker 2: and then six Eastern. There's a three fight prelim card. 82 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 2: I'll be calling headline by our boy Swift, Jared Hurd. 83 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 3: Oh, another DC guy by the way, who you calling 84 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 3: the prelims with? 85 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: I believe also Moro and Abner, but I'll find out later. 86 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, who the fuck knows? Right, I mean, 87 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 3: it's a new day. Let's remind everyone socials everywhere. You 88 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 3: can find us at all the different places where you 89 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 3: get all of your content. You can follow BC, who's 90 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,119 Speaker 3: been a very active week over at the Brian Campbell 91 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 3: experience his personal YouTube channel, but you can get mine 92 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 3: as well, just Luke Thomas there, as you can see below. BC, 93 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 3: I saw you spoke to Lamont Roach. I saw you 94 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 3: spoke to Manel cop I saw you spoke to who else. 95 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: Virgil Ortiz Junior, and we went name by name through 96 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 2: that one fifty four division to talk about his interest 97 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: whether he thinks he can make fights against him. So 98 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 2: very good chat with a guy who's absolutely on fire. 99 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 2: And it looked like he did it from like his parents' 100 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 2: bedroom or something. Just a humble guy in Texas. 101 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 3: You know he'll beat the fuck out of you. Don't 102 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 3: think he won't. That's what he'll do, all right. So 103 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 3: we have a lot to get to today on the show. 104 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 3: There's UFC announcements, there's a UFC fight, there's boxing, and 105 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 3: then there's sort of some sundry boxing topic. But without 106 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 3: further ado, b C, if you're ready, we should get 107 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:03,119 Speaker 3: this party started. 108 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean you know, yeah we should. 109 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 110 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 3: Let's bang. Okay, all right, let's bang two. We topic 111 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 3: number one if we can. UFC President Dana White issued 112 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 3: yet another slate of just amazing announcements or what we 113 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 3: think are amazing announcements. Anyway, I suppose we can debate them. 114 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 3: Let's go through them piece by piece. There are there 115 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,559 Speaker 3: are many of them, but BC, there's basically three major ones. 116 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 3: Let's start with what I consider to be the biggest. 117 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 3: Dan Hooker was supposed to fight Justin Gaichee and the 118 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 3: comine for UFC three thirteen, not tomorrow, but the following weekend. 119 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 3: He entered his hand. He's out, So who is going 120 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 3: to replace him? It turns out it's gonna be Raphael Fhazi, 121 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 3: which is a rematch that they had from I think 122 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 3: about a year almost two years ago, not quite a 123 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 3: year and a half ago. At this point, whatever the case, BC, 124 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 3: did they get the right comaine, or rather I should say, 125 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 3: did they get the right replacement for Justin Gaichie given 126 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 3: the timeframe and given who was available and all the 127 00:05:58,440 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 3: other factors that go into it. 128 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 2: Luke, to quote a great American sports analyst, your mileage 129 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: may vary, Luke, Okay, all right, look, let me start 130 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: by putting the statement on there that we already know 131 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 2: Justin Gaechee versus anyone at any time, anywhere, is gonna 132 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 2: be Musty TV. It's gonna be hard to get that wrong. 133 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 2: Do I understand what they were up against her last minute? 134 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 2: Of course, I understand. You're not gonna have Tuporia fill in. 135 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 2: You're not gonna have you know, Pourier necessarily as they're 136 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: mapping out his retirement plan, although he did raise his hand, 137 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 2: we found out on Twitter, which was interesting. The issue 138 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 2: I have with this Luke is really just a larger, 139 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 2: more generic issue with UFC matchmaking and the proliferation of 140 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: fight cards, the higher prices in the water down, you know, 141 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 2: the ad nauseum complaining that we tend to do because 142 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 2: we are or we look at ourselves as sort of 143 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 2: like gatekeepers of this industry of how it used to be, 144 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: and we're watching these crazy trends happen. What do I 145 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 2: mean by that? This is a pay per view in 146 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 2: Las Vegas with a fantastic main event and the rest 147 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 2: of the card is atrocious, and now we lose the 148 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 2: All Action co main event. And while PHAZIV versus gay 149 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: Chie was pretty interesting fight the first time around, not 150 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 2: only did Gachi score his first takedown as a professional 151 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 2: MMA fighter, but he showed legitimate veteran instincts to pull 152 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 2: out a fight against somebody of the next generation of lightweights. 153 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 5: But but. 154 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: Phazebas on and two in his last two Luke. So 155 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 2: it's like, is that the perfect fight right now? I mean, 156 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: I'm certainly being greedy when I'm saying, Look, I would 157 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 2: have loved armand Sarrukian right here, you know what I mean. 158 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 2: I would have loved Charles olivera. But can you get 159 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: these guys on two weeks notice? Maybe not? Heck, Luke, 160 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: I wouldn't hated if they ran back Moikano after his 161 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 2: one sided, last minute loss to Islam and give him 162 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: sort of that second chance to capitalize on his run. 163 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 2: Either way, Will this be a bad fight? No, But 164 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 2: this is a co main event of a quo you know, 165 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 2: of a somewhat major pay per view this year, and 166 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 2: it feels like a rematch that nobody really needs right now. 167 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: Tell me if I'm just a curmudgeon or if this 168 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 2: is onto something here. 169 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 3: I think you're being a curmudgeon. I actually love this fight, 170 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 3: and I don't really understand what the pushback is about. 171 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 3: If I can just be totally on. 172 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 2: Okay, the pushback is it's a pay per view, Colemane, 173 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 2: that's a pushback. 174 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 3: Okay, so you know what, let's back up a step. 175 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 3: If it wasn't gonna be physive, who would have been 176 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 3: Brian Campbell's top choice? 177 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:34,239 Speaker 2: Armand Sarukian? 178 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 3: Okay, now we have a graphic I believe on this 179 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 3: where Oh how did I include this one? I don't 180 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 3: know if I included this one? God damn it. I 181 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 3: probably should have included it. There were a series of 182 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 3: ones that were offered and Arman was one of them. 183 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 3: But Arman said he couldn't make the weight, so he 184 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 3: was asking for a one sixty catchweight in the UFC bulk. 185 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 3: Does your believe that the UFC should have just made 186 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 3: a one sixty pound catchweight and done this or you 187 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 3: can fight. 188 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 2: I believe they should have. I think it's still would 189 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 2: have served the same purpose of sorting out the order 190 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 2: atop the lightweight division. But again it comes down to 191 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 2: your knowledge of whether you think this card is fine 192 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 2: as is with this change, then there's no issue at all, Luke, 193 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 2: I mean, like, what do you think about UFC three 194 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: thirteen At the moment we are about to pregame preview 195 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 2: that a week from today, is it going to be 196 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 2: a two fight conversation or not. That's the real question here. 197 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 3: So I grant that this is less than ideal circumstances. 198 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 3: Nobody wanted the Hooker fight to fall through, and now 199 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 3: we got this kind of unfortunate situation. But let me 200 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 3: just make the case for a physive because I just 201 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 3: disagree that this is like some kind of I mean, 202 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 3: if you wanted to make an argument that this constant 203 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 3: replacement cycle stuff has become annoying or you know, it 204 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 3: just doesn't leave you with much tittillation about what's to come, 205 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 3: because you're just getting like a reduced version of whatever 206 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 3: The good thing could. 207 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 2: Be the titillation, Luke, when it comes to TNA, we 208 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 2: love titillation on this app. 209 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 3: Exactly exactly, And granted there's not necessarily much in part 210 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 3: because of all the circumstances that we kind of laid 211 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 3: out of here, but I have to tell you I 212 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 3: love this fight. I really love this fight. Listen, Phayzive 213 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 3: was on a ridiculous wind streak before the Gey Chee 214 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 3: fight and was winning the Gey Chee fight up until 215 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 3: Gei Chee stormed back late, which is just an amazing 216 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 3: heroic performance on his part. But like Phaziv matter of 217 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 3: factly was putting it on him early enough. So like 218 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 3: there's rivalry between them, there's history between them, there was 219 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 3: competitiveness between them. And to your point, Geichie versus anyone 220 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 3: as action packed, but Geigee versus Hsive is especially action packed. 221 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 3: That's the first thing I'm going to say. Second of all, 222 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 3: the Gamrot fight. Yes, that's a fight that Physiv lost. 223 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 3: Phyziv lost it in the second round. He won the 224 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 3: first round on all three judges scorecards, and then got 225 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 3: injured in the second. To me, I don't really necessarily 226 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 3: read a whole lot into that from that fight. And 227 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 3: by the way, Gamrad apparently for whatever reason, turned down 228 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 3: a rematch with Physive. So it's not great that we're 229 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 3: having two losses in a row for Physis. I certainly 230 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 3: grant that is true. But this idea that like he's 231 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 3: overmatched and he can't handle it, and he's like, you know, 232 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 3: he's he's kind of petered out and this is the 233 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 3: end of that, I just think that's complete bullshit, totally 234 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 3: over sold for me. For me, is this the ideal situation? 235 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 3: Of course not. We are not in ideal territory. We 236 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 3: have to make do according to the UFC's preferences with 237 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 3: what we have available. The other ones that were available 238 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 3: who could make weight, And I'm with you. If the 239 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 3: UFC was willing to play with weight more, there might 240 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 3: be some better choices, but for whatever reason, they're not, 241 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 3: so it has to be guys who make weight we're 242 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,719 Speaker 3: really gonna spend what could be could be could be 243 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 3: justin Gaechee's last fight against a wrestler, trying to take 244 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 3: him down ad nauseum in Gamrot, you could do that. 245 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 3: I don't really understand necessarily what the point of that 246 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 3: would be physive, on the other hand, and I know 247 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 3: there was some other choices that were out there, also 248 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 3: not nearly as good or you know, kind of paying 249 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 3: robbing Peter to pay Paul in a sense. But among 250 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 3: the people who are available, this is not only the 251 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 3: best one. There's reason to believe it could actually be very, 252 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 3: very competitive, and the fact that phys has one to 253 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 3: get back because of what happened the first time in 254 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 3: an all action style. Honestly, I'm not sure that I 255 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 3: can't declare to UBC that this will be a better 256 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 3: fight than Dan Hooker, But for me, this is the 257 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 3: one that offered the least amount of drop off from 258 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 3: the Hooker fight to a secondary choice, and I'm honestly 259 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 3: blown away people aren't more on board with that. 260 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 2: It'll entertain it could continue the rivalry because you know 261 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 2: gae Chee was crafty and how he pulled out that 262 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 2: first fight. I'm not gonna be upset coming in or 263 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 2: probably upset on the way out. I am looking at 264 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 2: the other options, though, I mean I wouldn't have preferred 265 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 2: more let's say Darr Yush or Tarantula Turner. But Luke, 266 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: if we're going to accept a guy given the circumstances 267 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 2: of two week notice and turn around coming off of 268 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 2: two losses in physive and I do understand complete what 269 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 2: you're saying about the circumstances of the Gamraute loss. Could 270 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 2: we have considered number fifteen ben wat sanctany would that 271 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 2: have been? Would that have made people more more excited? 272 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 2: Would that have made me more excited? By being extra 273 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 2: extra greedy here? Do you think it was even addressed 274 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 2: to call up BSD? 275 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 3: I don't know, but that could be one of those 276 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 3: things where it's like are they saving him for some 277 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 3: future European or French card? Whether later in the calendar 278 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 3: or something, you know. But the argument to me is 279 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 3: not that there is no way to look at the 280 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 3: roster again, especially if you're willing to play with Catchwaight 281 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 3: and find a superior alternative. I think you could. But 282 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 3: I think in terms of guys who can make fifty five, 283 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 3: who are ready to go, who have an action oriented style, 284 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 3: and then anything else on top of that is bonus. 285 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 3: The fact that they have a history together. By the way, 286 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 3: a phenomenal fight itself. I don't know, man, I've seen 287 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 3: some of the belly aching and I just don't get it. 288 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 3: I mean, there's some other fights down the line, or 289 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 3: more broadly, the three thirteen card. Any hit it took 290 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 3: was gonna be obviously detrimental because it was already paper thin. 291 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 3: And this doesn't help. But I gotta say, in terms 292 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 3: of a rescuing effort in the ways in which you 293 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 3: view that, I just can't complain about this. I'm actually 294 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 3: kind of pumped for it, if I can be honest, 295 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 3: and this I rarely say that with a replacement, but 296 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 3: this one satisfies it for me. 297 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: Then I pull back my disinterest. Luke, and I do 298 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 2: know that BSD has a fight coming up? Is it Alvarez? 299 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, Joel Alvarez. And by the way, that fight 300 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 3: is a bang. 301 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 2: Oh that's gonna be a great fight. So look, look 302 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 2: I gave you my real reaction. I'm not lingeringly upset here. 303 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 2: Let's see what happens. What I do want to ask 304 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 2: you about this fight is long Island. Luke pointed out 305 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 2: the odds to me earlier today, courtesy of DraftKings, which 306 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 2: have PHYSIV minus one thirty five Gaye Chee plus one fourteen. 307 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: Do you feel like Vegas is ready to fully cash 308 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: out gay Chee coming off of that Holloway ko under 309 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 2: the premise that the chin be gone. 310 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 3: I think that they're worried. Fully cash out seems a 311 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 3: little strong. Let's see how the odds change between now 312 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 3: and then, But I absolutely think that they are concerned. 313 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 3: A guy has taken an enormous amount of damage even 314 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 3: prior to the Max Holloway fight, and then got viciously 315 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 3: face planted, kode one hit or quitter, one of the 316 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 3: worst knockouts that a fighter in UFC history has ever suffered. 317 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 3: That's a true fact. You know, nobody comes back from 318 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 3: that like just the same A piece of himself was 319 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 3: left in the octagon at UFC three hundred. There's absolutely 320 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 3: no way around that. The question is, okay, even if 321 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 3: you lost a piece, how much is still left? We 322 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 3: don't really know. This is why physive Hooker would have 323 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 3: been a great test too. But this is why, to me, 324 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 3: phyzive is a great test. Phyziv is gonna try and 325 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 3: find that out. I absolutely believe it. He's got one 326 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 3: gear for the most part. Anyway. And oh, I see, 327 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 3: I see you smiling like a rapist. What's going on? 328 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 2: I was agreeing with your point. I mean, I do 329 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 2: like a physive Look, I'm trying to not be as curmudgeony. 330 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 2: I'm trying to go, yeah, yeah, let's bang this final 331 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 2: thing I'm in. 332 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 3: Let's go yeah, Long Island, Luke, give me a prediction 333 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 3: on where the line will settle a week from today. 334 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 4: I feel like it's actually trending the way that it's 335 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 4: been going because Gaff texted me yesterday shout out to Gaff. 336 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 5: And was like, yo, hop on justin Geichee. 337 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 4: Right now he's plus one hundred and today you guys 338 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 4: just read it, he's plus one fourteen. So money's still 339 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 4: coming in on physique. I'm gonna see where it settles 340 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 4: before I throw my bed. But okay, I will be 341 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 4: taking gaegee as a dog. 342 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 3: Good to your head though, just up or down? Who wins? 343 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 5: Justin gechee? 344 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 3: Okay, three round fight? I like that better for yes, 345 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 3: not a five round fight, a three round fight, and 346 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 3: for that reason it changes it up and BC like, 347 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 3: could they have pulled in Michael Chandler, That would have 348 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 3: been cool. I mean, you know, I think they already 349 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 3: thought obviously, but could you got Yahty? He got Patty. 350 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 3: There's other guys that are already kind of locked in 351 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 3: again among available choices. For me, it works, it works well. 352 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 3: Now that takes us to what I think is the 353 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 3: second most interesting announcement that Danil white Man. Now, there 354 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 3: was a bunch of these for the UFC Kansas City 355 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 3: card that will take place. I'll look at the date here. 356 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 3: I think it's the end of the day. 357 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 2: Luke, don't forget the TKO takeover that's happening in Kansas 358 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: City that weekend per press release, where they're having UFC 359 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 2: Fight Night, WW SmackDown and professional bull Riders. Luke, this 360 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 2: is just the beginning of your TKO is about to 361 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 2: take over your site. Right, They're coming. 362 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 3: They're coming apparently apparently. But the point I wanted to 363 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,959 Speaker 3: make was headlining that card for Kansas City is going 364 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 3: to be a light heavyweight tilt between Jamal Hill and 365 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 3: Khalil Roundtree BC. I've got a question I want to 366 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 3: ask you. But first I noticed that when I said 367 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 3: I like this fight, a lot of people agreed. They 368 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 3: also like the fight, but they were like, oh man, 369 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 3: this is just too quick a turnaround for Jamal Hill. Well, 370 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 3: Jamal Hill addressed that on his personal YouTube channel, and 371 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 3: here's what he had to say. 372 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 7: But the thing is this, though, right, I haven't I 373 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 7: fought twice in the last two years. All Right, that 374 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 7: last fight, I wasn't able to get comfortable. I wasn't comfortable. 375 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 7: I didn't fill the routine. I didn't get into my 376 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 7: normal flow, and it didn't feel like it should. And 377 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 7: I think part of that was the fact of how 378 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 7: long I've been in active and how long it's been 379 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 7: stretched in between. Before that fight, I'd only had three 380 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 7: minutes of time, which was warm up time in a 381 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 7: fight before to get uh, to get to to get 382 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 7: to get into that fight and things of that nature. 383 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 5: So you know it was for me. 384 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 6: It's like, uh, I need to get back active. 385 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 7: I need to get back active. 386 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 5: You know. 387 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 7: I'm gonna take care of the things that I need 388 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 7: to take care of for as far as like you, 389 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 7: I mean health and things like that. But I feel 390 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 7: like there is plenty of time, is right on track 391 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 7: for when I would want to see myself back in there. 392 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 6: So yeah, I'm a I'm a I'm gonna go in 393 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 6: there and I'm gonna I'm gonna do my thing. 394 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 3: BC is he coming back too soon? 395 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 2: I actually agree with his decision making right there, and 396 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 2: I think we are in the midst of seeing some 397 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 2: type of I don't want to say pro wrestling face 398 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 2: turned from Hill. But the humility is kind of nice 399 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 2: that he showed in the loss to YEARI after it, 400 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 2: we saw those two shooting shots in the bar with 401 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 2: their significant others, and now you've got him saying, look, 402 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 2: I'm going to address the issues of why I lost 403 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 2: the last fight, you know, in camp. But I got 404 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 2: to get back in there and I got to make 405 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 2: a statement. Look, this is a great ass fight is 406 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 2: going to be all action. We know that, and it 407 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 2: is a pretty damn important fight considering how recently Roundtree 408 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 2: contended for the actual title. That if he'll can go 409 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 2: out there and win this fight, dude, he's kind of 410 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 2: back in the mix in this division, which has a 411 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 2: lot of it's not quite heavyweight, but but you know, 412 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,959 Speaker 2: guys can get hot and then cold because of how 413 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 2: easily can be to knock each other out with the 414 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 2: big boys in this division. But I think he'll has 415 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 2: to find consistency. He's got to, you know, find a 416 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 2: different lane than just coming in there with the attitude 417 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 2: of this hand is going to settle everything and then 418 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 2: if I lose, I'll make excuses. I kind of like 419 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 2: the changes that he's realizing. Now, how long is this 420 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 2: window going to be open. Let's get back in there, 421 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 2: Let's fix what what didn't go right against Yerie, and 422 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 2: let's make up for all that time away due to injury. 423 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 2: Let's go Jamal Hill, Luke, this is this is a pause. 424 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 2: It turned for me. 425 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 3: I I think it's a calculated gamble, but I'm not 426 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 3: super opposed to it. Now let me be let's we 427 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 3: should we should say very clearly, it is risky. It 428 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 3: is risky. There is a real risk involved here with 429 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 3: having been basically getting you know, uh, throttled, I don't 430 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 3: know what the correct word would be by by Yuri Prahatchka. 431 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 2: Look I got it. Actually it's dicked down. 432 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, having that happen against Yerie and then 433 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 3: obviously before that against a Poton, although that's now been 434 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 3: some time. But you know, that's not a great run 435 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 3: in terms of like brain health. And it's not that 436 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 3: I don't think that's a relevant concern, But the reality is, 437 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 3: these guys always complain about they don't get enough fights 438 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 3: and part of the reason why they want more Yes, 439 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 3: of course more money, but they always tell me that 440 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 3: they can stay in a flow better, like everything is 441 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 3: just sharper if they're more active more regularly. And he's right, 442 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 3: like he just hasn't competed very much. I thought he 443 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 3: came back too soon, obviously already when he took the 444 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 3: fight against poetson coming back from that achilles injury and 445 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 3: it didn't go well, and to go so it's like, oh, okay, 446 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 3: well last year you already came back and it already 447 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 3: went poorly. Why would you double down. Let me say again, 448 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 3: I'm not arguing it's not without risk, real risk. At 449 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 3: the same time, more inactivity might actually make things worse. 450 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 3: Net net on net balance. It's very conceivable that waiting 451 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 3: around and then fighting, you know, in December or something, 452 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 3: because if you turn this down, who knows when they're 453 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 3: going to come back around to you. It could be 454 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 3: quite some time. It's just hard to say you may 455 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 3: not get the reps that you really need. Repping is 456 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 3: super important for any UFC fighter, particularly those at the 457 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 3: headlining level. So I got to tell you I was 458 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 3: a little bit through my fingers. I'm looking, but I 459 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 3: can kind of see the logic now, BC. In terms 460 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:02,479 Speaker 3: of the fight itself, this is phenomenal matchmaking two different 461 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 3: kinds of sluggers. Khalil Rowntree and both of these guys, 462 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 3: by the way, coming off of stoppage lot well one before, 463 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 3: but essentially both having been stopped by Poeton. One was 464 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 3: a little bit more competitive than the other one certainly, 465 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 3: but in the end Poton gets his hand raised. But 466 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,239 Speaker 3: BC in Khalil Rowntree, a vicious Multai striker who has 467 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 3: really come into his own of late, and I think 468 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 3: the fans have really gotten on board with him. Jamal 469 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 3: Hill has not necessarily been that, but you know, former 470 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 3: champion had a neck and or a phenomenal performance, I 471 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 3: should say against Glover to Chera, and really does have 472 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 3: some skills when he's dialed in, which, again in theory 473 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 3: getting back to it gets us there. So tell me 474 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 3: what your and your view is of how they match up, 475 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 3: and in particular, what do you actually think is on 476 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 3: the line here, both for the winner and the loser. 477 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 2: Excuse me, Luke, Look, I feel like this is a 478 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 2: loser's bracket of the title, you know, in terms of 479 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 2: the two of them or recent title losers to the 480 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 2: great Poeton on the run that he's on facing each other. 481 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 2: Winner gets back into the title picture, loser goes back 482 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 2: into the mid level of contention. That's kind of where 483 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 2: we're aut here in this. I really like the matchup stylistically. 484 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 2: I like what you how you deemed it. They're different 485 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 2: kind of strikers. Hill the better boxer, Roundtree the more explosive. 486 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 2: But Luke tied into my me saying, I kind of 487 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 2: like Hill's mindset right now. I kind of like the 488 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 2: strategy of coming back quicker, even though round Trees hella dangerous, 489 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 2: and even though he did get an unluckily title shot, 490 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 2: I think stylistic. I think fighter for fighter, Hill's the 491 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 2: better fighter. People might disagree with me on there, but 492 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 2: there is one thing I do need to see from 493 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 2: Jamal Hill, and that's a commitment to elite level conditioning. 494 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 2: I'm not really sure we've seen that yet, even through 495 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 2: his brief run as a champion with the title. I 496 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 2: feel like that could be that could change some of 497 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 2: the gaps that he's missing at the elite level. He's 498 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 2: always gonna have a puncher's chance. You saw against Glover 499 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 2: what he can do when he's in the lead, when 500 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 2: he's bringing the fight to somebody. But I need him 501 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 2: to get into killer shape for here. I need him 502 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 2: to have the threat of takedowns in there. Still, though, Luke, 503 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 2: I like his chances against Roundtree. I like his opportunity. 504 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 2: He's got a big opportunity in my opinion, to get 505 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 2: a win here and be catapulted right back. 506 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: To the top. 507 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 3: I mean, this is what's so interesting for me. If 508 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 3: you're Khalil Roundtree on some level, I'm not gonna call 509 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 3: this playing with house money, but it's a little bit 510 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 3: like not that his success is accidental. But he's never 511 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 3: been champion, right, He's never worn gold and Jamal Hill 512 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 3: has and so obviously getting a win over Jamal would 513 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 3: be huge for his resume. And I'm not saying a 514 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 3: loss doesn't matter, but to me, it's like the much 515 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 3: more consequential side here is about Jamal. People were asking 516 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 3: if Jamal loses to Yearie, where does he go from there? 517 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 3: And the answer is, well, okay, he's still kind of 518 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 3: doing like big important fights. I mean, just think about it. 519 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 3: If you beat Khalil Rountree a striker, and particularly if 520 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 3: it's exciting, not only does that like put you at 521 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 3: a decent place in the rankings, but it's like restorative 522 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 3: to stop the losses obviously first and then second of all, 523 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 3: that's a tough guy to beat, and he's probably not 524 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 3: gonna beat him with like jiu jitsu. He's probably gonna 525 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 3: if he does win, he'll beat him with striking. Like 526 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 3: that's a big and important kind of victory to get 527 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 3: massively restorative, both in terms of what it does psychologically 528 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 3: for the rankings and everything in between. It's huge. The loss, 529 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 3: by contrast, is devastating, truly devastating. It'd be three in 530 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 3: a row. If he gets stopped, it'd be three stoppages 531 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 3: in a row. It would just be absolutely the worst 532 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 3: case scenario that you could find after having you know, 533 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 3: essentially done really well and then been injured and then 534 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 3: having to you know, suffer through a return like these 535 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 3: Achilles injuries. Man, people just don't jump back into it again. 536 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 3: We talked about the calculated gamble that he's taking, but 537 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 3: I just I just feel like, and maybe it's my 538 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 3: imagination BC, I just feel like, either to win or 539 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 3: to lose, it's a little bit more in Jamal Hill's 540 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 3: court than it is for Roundtree. And I don't know 541 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 3: if that's fair, but that's just fine. 542 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 2: That's one hundred percent fair. Ok, that's one hundred percent fair. Luke, 543 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 2: I never thought he'd get to the title level he 544 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,239 Speaker 2: did because kind of a perfect storm, and whether they 545 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 2: forced Anklive to wait one more to reward Poeton with 546 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 2: a more favorable style matchup because of what he's been 547 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 2: doing to the company. Either way, I feel like this 548 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 2: is Roundtree's last opportunity to stay in the title picture, 549 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: so I fully agree. Plus, let's be fair, he'll can talk, 550 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 2: that matters, that gets you into big fights. Is it 551 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 2: likely that he ends up someday in a Poton rematch, 552 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 2: probably not, given Alex's age and where he's at in 553 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 2: his run, but he's also not that far away. Should 554 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 2: Pereira hang around at two o five. I'm not saying 555 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 2: everybody wants or needs a second Pereira Hill fight. I'm 556 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 2: just saying he'll can talk, and that does matter. 557 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 3: That absolutely matters in any case. A highly intriguing clash 558 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 3: of styles here. I really love that. I love that 559 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 3: both guys are. It's so funny, man Like, light heavyweight 560 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 3: used to be something of a wrestler's division, and now 561 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 3: that's totally gone. Now it's a striker's division, almost top 562 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 3: to bottom. Like, who's the best wrestler at two oh five? 563 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 2: Currently Magomed and caliv. 564 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 3: Okay discounting him because he's got a date with Poton? 565 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 3: Who is it? 566 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 2: All right? Let me look at these here rankings that 567 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 2: are Wow. 568 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,239 Speaker 3: Look who's the best wrestler not named Unclive at two 569 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 3: o five? 570 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm looking right now at the rankings. 571 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 2: I mean, does rackat you ever shoot? 572 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 3: I mean yeah, he'll shoot, he'll shoot a little bit. Yeah, 573 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 3: of course he's won some big fights with that. 574 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 2: Bogged in ye is. 575 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 3: I mean you see what I'm saying the division's completely 576 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 3: turned on its head. It's like it's a striker's division now. 577 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 3: Not saying that that's necessarily for the worst, but it 578 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 3: is a different change, all right. B See Last, but 579 00:27:54,160 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 3: certainly not least, Bryce Mitchell is back in. It was 580 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 3: announced he'll be taking on Jayon Silva at UFC three fourteen. Now, BC, 581 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 3: if I looked at some of the odds for this one, 582 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 3: I found them to be like shocking. Uh, let me 583 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 3: pull them up here for just a second. Oh, they're 584 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 3: in the rundown. Sorry I missed him. Ah, there they are. Sorry, Mitchell. 585 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 3: They have and our friends of DK have Mitchell as 586 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 3: a plus two ninety five. They have Silva as a 587 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 3: minus three seventy five. 588 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 5: BC. 589 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 3: I like Jayon Silva as much as the next guy, 590 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 3: and I'm not poopooing this fight necessarily, but what gives 591 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 3: us all this confidence that Silva has takedown defense when 592 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 3: he's barely had his takedown defense tested at all in 593 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 3: his UFC run. 594 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 2: It's a fair point. Long Island Luke and I had 595 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 2: an off camera discussion about this where initially I'm like, yeah, 596 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 2: what's wrong with that? But the more you think about 597 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 2: it they are teasing you to throw money in the 598 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 2: direction of Brece Mitchell. Maybe they figure, uh, well, no, 599 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 2: this is MMA. So maybe many people will Luke in 600 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 2: the fan base because they support Bryce's beliefs. I don't know. Look, 601 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 2: here's the deal, though, Bryce has been devastatingly stopped twice 602 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 2: against elite foes, and the Lord Silva is on a 603 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 2: type of reckoning path and creates so much chaos in 604 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 2: there right away that I'm not sure it'll actually matter Luke. 605 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 2: So I get that the odds seem a little inflated, 606 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 2: but I also can't act like I feel like Bryce 607 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 2: is stock as an actual fighter is anywhere near where 608 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 2: it was. I also can't act like I believe that 609 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 2: all of the negativity surrounding him right now is going 610 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 2: to help him in the cage. I think we're at 611 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 2: a precarious point in Bryce Mitchell's career where it can 612 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 2: go really bad. I mean, look, can you say the 613 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 2: things he said and not get karma kod your next fight? 614 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 2: I don't know we're gonna find out here. But outside 615 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 2: of the comment from Dana that we all don't love, 616 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 2: which was, well, hey, guys, you get to see Bryce 617 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 2: Mitchell fight again and maybe you can cheer for him 618 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 2: to get kot and we're sort of using the grossness 619 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 2: to sell this fight. Lord Silva is red freaking hot 620 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 2: right now. If you told me you can see the future, 621 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 2: and he stops Bryce Mitchell and just over around, I 622 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 2: could see it happening, Luke, I could see it happening. 623 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 3: I can see it happening less on a Karmik thing 624 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 3: and just more that maybe Silva does have pretty good 625 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 3: takedown defense and then just lights him up on the feet. 626 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 3: I mean obviously on the feet. It's really not even close. 627 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 3: He would beat him up. I just want to point out, 628 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 3: listen to how insane this Miami card is. Bcee Volkanowski 629 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 3: versus Lopez is your main chandler pimblet Comaine. Now, I 630 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 3: don't know exactly where they're gonna put it, but let's 631 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 3: just imagine that you have Bryce Mitchell, now Jayon Silva 632 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 3: on the main, Jeff Neil Carlos protest on the main. 633 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 3: Then you've got any number of choices you can go 634 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 3: from there, including pit Bull Rodriguez probably gonna be on 635 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 3: that main or be on the main dude. Then after that, 636 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 3: Danny Gashawan Woodson, the Keeter Krilla versus Dominic ray as 637 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 3: Yon Shawnan versus Being Ginger Roba, Darren Elkins versus Juicy 638 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 3: j A, Julian Rosa, Jim Miller, Chase Hooper, and then 639 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 3: it goes on down the listening there. Dude, that card 640 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 3: is insanely fucking stacked. 641 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 2: All the things that I rail about week to week 642 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 2: and people get mad at me or they say I've 643 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 2: gone too far. I become the cogent curmudgeon old guy. 644 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 2: Just watch the Apex fights. They're just fine. This is 645 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 2: where we need to get excited, exciting when they come 646 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 2: back and they actually pump the card up with the 647 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 2: type of energy, personality style matchups where you go, look, 648 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 2: this is worth it. I gotta buy this pay per view. 649 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 2: They do that in Dubai, Luke, that's a new spot 650 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 2: for a quote unquote major Miami's getting major treatment here. 651 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna try to politically figure out why. I'm 652 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 2: just gonna enjoy it. Dude. This card is awesome, and 653 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 2: I wish the other cards could be more balanced out. 654 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 2: I wish we didn't have to have three to four 655 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 2: jack cards a year, and then a real step off. 656 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 2: But dude, top to bottom. I think you can put 657 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 2: that pipull fight third from the top. I think that's 658 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 2: probably where it belongs to. And those quote unquote filler 659 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 2: fights are not only important, they've got potential for some 660 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 2: real fun carnage to happen. So well done to the 661 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 2: matchmaking on here. It feels like every day we're getting 662 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 2: a new fight added to the mix at three fourteen 663 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 2: of Miami, and it's it's pretty good. It's pretty damn good. 664 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 2: I'm in let's go. 665 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 3: Bryce Mitchell is going to get roaring cheers if he wins, 666 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 3: isn't he He's not going to get booted. 667 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 2: He's not going to get out Florida. He'll probably get booed, right. 668 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 3: I would bet everything I own he would get roaring cheers. 669 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 2: If I don't want to talk about that anymore, yeah. 670 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 3: I mean that's just where we are now, That's just 671 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 3: where we are. Like, you can just say the most 672 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,719 Speaker 3: horrendoush and it's not even just saying it, you can 673 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 3: believe the most horrendous shit and people will just reward This. 674 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 2: One thing about Bryce though I'm sure you don't read 675 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 2: his Twitter account, but even in the last day and 676 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 2: a half, like he goes hard as a mofo against 677 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 2: Elon musk On like a daily basis, basically calling him 678 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 2: Satan Luke, So that that side feud is getting kind 679 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 2: of interesting right now. 680 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 3: Right, all right, well, that part's interesting. But at the 681 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 3: same time, I agree with him. But at the same time, 682 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 3: you know, listen pre meth Elon, you go fishing with 683 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 3: that guy saying, I mean. 684 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 2: I'd sit at the Rogan podcast desk in t one. 685 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 3: Up with that guy, right, yeah, sure, for sure. Okay, 686 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 3: that's topic number one, BC. Let's get to topic number two, 687 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 3: which is the whole reason why you're in Brooklyn and why. 688 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 3: By the way, I looked at the ticket sales, I 689 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 3: think it's almost completely sold out. There's like just a 690 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 3: little bit left. I think by five time it'll be 691 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 3: a straight up sellout. Dravonte Davis faces Lamont Roach in 692 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 3: a lightweight title fight at the bar Clay Center on 693 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 3: Saturday Live on Pay per View BC. On the Call BC, 694 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 3: there's been a lot of debate about who Lamont Roach is. 695 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 3: You spoke to him. I spoke to him. We've both 696 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 3: interviewed Tank multiple times over the years. Although I did 697 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 3: you speak to Tank this cycle, yet did you do the. 698 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 2: He didn't show up to the Fighter meetings, and he 699 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 2: really hasn't done traditional boxing media like at all outside 700 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 2: of after the press conference yesterday where he tackled all 701 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 2: those topics you would want to hear from Turkey to 702 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 2: Chakor and all that. But yeah, it's been a different 703 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 2: connection to Tank for the traditional boxing media entering this week. 704 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 3: Okay, we'll talk about Lamont Roach's size because that is clearly, 705 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 3: if not the most important issue, certainly one of them. 706 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 3: But the trainer for at least this camp, the sometime 707 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 3: trainer of Jervonte Tank, Davis Barry Hunter out of Headbangers, 708 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:37,479 Speaker 3: has said Lamont is the most skillful opponent that Tank 709 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 3: has faced to date. Is that true? If so, why 710 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 3: or why not? 711 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 2: It sounds like something that couldn't be true. But I 712 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,720 Speaker 2: think we're talking about the total package here, the intangibles, 713 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 2: the defense, the confidence which has been through the roof, 714 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 2: but it hasn't been, in my opinion, in overbearing confidence 715 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 2: where you feel like you can poke that with a 716 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 2: you know, with a pin and it'll explode, like it's 717 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 2: just for show or just to talk himself up. Look, 718 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 2: the reality is that Tank and Lamont Roach did grow 719 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 2: up in somewhat proximity to each other, Roach being born 720 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,879 Speaker 2: in DC, moving to Upper Marlboro, Maryland in his youth, 721 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:18,280 Speaker 2: Tank being from Baltimore. They sparred so many times as amateurs. 722 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 2: They fought twice as amateurs in twenty eleven when they 723 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 2: were fifteen and sixteen years old. Tank won both, but 724 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 2: they were ranked number one and two in the country 725 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 2: and their weight class. So this is one of those 726 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 2: situations where Roach is just not afraid. He's known Tank 727 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 2: since he was a little kid. Now we can certainly 728 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 2: break down how their skills match up, and how anyone 729 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 2: matches up against the power, the IQ, the efficiency of 730 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 2: what Tank brings to the table. There's a reason why 731 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,399 Speaker 2: he's undefeated with a ninety four percent knockout KO rate. 732 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 2: But I think the things that make Roach really good 733 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 2: don't necessarily jump off the screen against you, right. You know, 734 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 2: he does have a loss and a draw in his career, 735 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 2: worse sort of turning point moments that drove him to 736 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 2: a deeper level of focus and belief in himself and success. 737 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 2: Since that twenty nineteen title loss to Jamel Hearing, He's 738 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 2: four and oh with three KOs, and he is not 739 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 2: a huge power puncher. And yes, he's moving up five 740 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 2: pounds in weight, but he doesn't get hit easily. He 741 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 2: can scrap a little bit on the inside. And while 742 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 2: I don't it's not that I don't understand the betting 743 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 2: odds for this, it's Tank. Roach is moving up in weight. 744 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 2: He's not as sexy a name as the others. You 745 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 2: talk to anybody in and around these two camps, or 746 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 2: anybody in and around that really knows boxing, and you 747 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,800 Speaker 2: hear the same thing. Yeah, Tank should be the favorite, 748 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 2: maybe even by a lot, but this is a real fight. 749 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 2: Roach is coming to this fight to win. So it's 750 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 2: not a situation where you can go, Okay, what's his 751 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 2: actual avenue? Is he gonna not tank out? Is he 752 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:51,800 Speaker 2: gonna shut him out in the cards? No? 753 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 6: And no. 754 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 2: But he is a experienced, gritty, well rounded, can be 755 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 2: defensive minded and really a smart boxer. And I don't 756 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,800 Speaker 2: think it's nothing that he's coming in with this level 757 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 2: of comfortability and confidence, because how many times have we 758 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 2: seen fighters that maybe don't belong at the elite level, 759 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 2: or maybe don't belong yet right they come up, the 760 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 2: lights are too big heck, it happened to Roach in 761 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,760 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen against Jamel Herring when he lost that decision. 762 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 2: It also happened, it seems, the last fight when the 763 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 2: ghost Frank Martin came in. It felt like he was 764 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,919 Speaker 2: defeated in those press conferences coming in and you could 765 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 2: really see the inexperience play out on the brightest lights 766 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 2: on the pay per view stage. I don't know if 767 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 2: Roach is gonna last four rounds because Davonte is Davante, 768 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 2: But I can't tell you he's coming to win. He's 769 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 2: here to compete, and to say that he doesn't belong 770 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 2: in the ring would be like he belongs in this 771 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 2: ring against Tank. You just have to really ask yourself 772 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 2: how much does that experience and that familiarity matter. Talking 773 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 2: to Lamont, it feels like it does, Luke, but we're 774 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 2: gonna find out on Saturday. 775 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. I spoke to him about his amateur experience, as 776 00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 3: did you. Let's look you spoke to him this week. 777 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 3: Mine was all the way I spoke Tim months ago 778 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 3: about it. Let's talk. Let's take a look at your 779 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 3: clip where these are guys that face. This is not 780 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 3: the first time Lamont Roach has boxed Gervante Tank Davis. 781 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 3: To what extent is that amateur experience relevant? Here's what 782 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:13,879 Speaker 3: he said. 783 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 8: I think it will play a significant role outside of 784 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 8: us sharing and ring together. It's like stuff that I 785 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 8: note that you know what I'm saying, that I would use, 786 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 8: that I can use, and that we will use to 787 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 8: our advantage. 788 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 2: So you're saying inside tips, tells secrets. 789 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: That kind of stuff. 790 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 5: Tell me about it. 791 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 2: Uh, Look, everyone's probably wondering the same thing, and it 792 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,439 Speaker 2: always happens this way when somebody's been as successful as Tank, 793 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 2: What can you do differently that everybody else has failed 794 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 2: to do? How do would you answer that. 795 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 8: I can, Like I said before, like the IQ and 796 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 8: the skill level, the skill set is just compared to 797 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,040 Speaker 8: everyone here he's fought in that present term. 798 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 9: Is just. 799 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 2: Levels above and. 800 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,439 Speaker 8: The tenacity that I'm gonna have with it. Come watch first. 801 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,839 Speaker 8: It's just gonna be it's gonna be something that he's 802 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 8: definitely not used to. Is gonna be the total package, 803 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 8: and it's gonna be it's gonna be one of the 804 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 8: best fights of the year. 805 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 2: I promise you. 806 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 3: BC from what you can tell from what you know 807 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 3: from speaking to him, does the amateur experience confer any 808 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 3: advantages for Lamont Roach and conversely, does it confer any 809 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 3: advantages for Javonte Tank Davis. 810 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 2: Look, I'm always of the belief that everything matters that 811 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,280 Speaker 2: when a fight is announced, from that moment forward, they're fighting. 812 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 2: I believe some of the pre fight mental stuff is real. 813 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,320 Speaker 2: You have a face off or a press conference that 814 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 2: doesn't go your way. I think there's mental realities where 815 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 2: that plays in. But it doesn't mean every time. It 816 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 2: doesn't matter. If somebody beat somebody in the amateurs, that pros. 817 00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 2: In the pros, that can be completely different. 818 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 3: And then the Ryan. 819 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 2: Garcia Devin Haney fight happened, and I know that Ryan 820 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,799 Speaker 2: is much more explosive than Roach in a different type 821 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 2: of fighter. But clearly the six fights that they had 822 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,320 Speaker 2: on the amateur level, splitting those fights, the sparring that 823 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 2: those two had, Ryan knew he could get that left 824 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,760 Speaker 2: hook off, he knew there was a hole in Haney's defense. 825 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 2: That's a different fight with different fighters. But again, to 826 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,800 Speaker 2: act like this doesn't matter, it's gonna matter a certain degree. 827 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 2: You asked a great question, though, what about the flip 828 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 2: side Tank's beating this kid twice? He also grew up 829 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 2: around him. He knows just the same, So that's going 830 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,799 Speaker 2: to play a role as well as well this Luke, 831 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,399 Speaker 2: and I think it's a good question to spin back 832 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 2: on you. How much how dangerous is it to be 833 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 2: too confident against Tank? 834 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, you've seen Lamont Roach in person, right. I sat 835 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 3: down with him, as I mentioned, a couple of months ago, 836 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 3: and he is in person. It seems like a roughly 837 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 3: similar size in terms of frame to Jervonte Tank Davis. 838 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 3: But BC, this is to answer your question, I'm getting 839 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 3: to it. The difference in power is extraordinary. They get 840 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,399 Speaker 3: like gigantic difference in power, and to me be see, 841 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,320 Speaker 3: here's where I come down to it. Like, I believe 842 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 3: Lamont Roach when he says he believes he can and 843 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 3: will win. I believe him when he says he'll know 844 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 3: the right way to box Dravante for long periods of 845 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 3: that fight. I believe him. But I also know if 846 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 3: you look at some of the tape on him, he 847 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,320 Speaker 3: tends to come square at times against opponents and to 848 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 3: be hit and I just am not especially because of 849 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,879 Speaker 3: the size difference in terms of who occupies one thirty 850 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 3: who occupies one thirty five It's not that I don't 851 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 3: think that Lamont can't box with him. I absolutely think 852 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 3: he can box with him. But I feel like if 853 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 3: he's really starting to, you know, get confident, move downhill, 854 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 3: as we like to say, he's gonna get hit. He 855 00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 3: gets hit in all these fights. I mean, obviously it's 856 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 3: a boxing five, but you know, he doesn't have like 857 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,359 Speaker 3: he has good defense, but I wouldn't say it's ironclad. 858 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,280 Speaker 3: And so it's like, if you're over confident or too confident, 859 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 3: however you wish to describe it, against a puncher like Davis, dude, 860 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 3: the consequences are fucking dire. They are dire to do 861 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 3: things like that. So it's like it's a weird mix 862 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:24,240 Speaker 3: BCEE where I am very willing, perfectly willing to believe 863 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 3: that they feel like they've got what they feel like 864 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,360 Speaker 3: some secrets to unlock some doors that previous opponents just 865 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 3: haven't been able to do against Davonte Davis. But as 866 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 3: you know as well as I do, they're gonna have 867 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 3: to take some risks to get there if they can 868 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 3: at all. And that is where all of the danger is. 869 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 3: And that's the part where I'm just like, I don't know, 870 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know about that. 871 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 2: That's why the odds are the way they are. They 872 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 2: are because Dravante has the great equalizer. He's also, like 873 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 2: we mentioned, so efficient as a counter puncher. What does 874 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 2: that actually mean in a fight? It means he doesn't 875 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 2: waste punches. So it also means he's never really out 876 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 2: of position to be countered cleaning to be hit. So 877 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 2: if you are going to hit him, if you are 878 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 2: going to try to put him in situations, he's gonna 879 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,320 Speaker 2: have in most cases that upper hand to wait for 880 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 2: that tell or that one angle. Let's not forget he 881 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 2: let Frank Martin win the first three rounds when they 882 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 2: fought last was it May or June, and then started 883 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 2: to really pick him apart and corner him. So Roach 884 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,280 Speaker 2: obviously is going to have to balance his aggression smartly. 885 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,319 Speaker 2: He's going to have to swim and not get wet 886 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,360 Speaker 2: in the most extreme scenarios. Of course, they do have 887 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 2: a common opponent in recent memory and Hector Luis Garcia. 888 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 2: Remember Garcia was the title holder at one thirty. He 889 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 2: moved up in wait to fight Tank. He fought aggressively 890 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,840 Speaker 2: and got knocked out. It got stopped and actually was 891 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,720 Speaker 2: temporary blinded in the ring after Tank put that assault 892 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,919 Speaker 2: on him. Eight months later, Roach fights him in Las 893 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,759 Speaker 2: Vegas and it was a split decision win in which 894 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,320 Speaker 2: Roach needed a knockdown in the final round. But that 895 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 2: was a Garcia coming off of that big time KO loss, 896 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 2: and he fought very defensively on the back foot. Was 897 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,800 Speaker 2: very frustrating. But I think I give Roach credit for 898 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 2: figuring out an avenue to get up on him, to 899 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 2: get that late knockdown, and to really, I mean the 900 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 2: way that Roach. If you watch that Garcia fight, it 901 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 2: may be easy to just go, oh, common opponent. Tank 902 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,759 Speaker 2: knocked him out. Roach had somewhat trouble with him, but 903 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,800 Speaker 2: I think you do have to watch the body language 904 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 2: of Hector Garcia in both the way that Roach rose 905 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,760 Speaker 2: to the occasion in that title fight get the knockdown 906 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,239 Speaker 2: to win the split decision. I did like what I 907 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 2: saw right there. I don't know how much this boosts 908 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 2: his ability in there actually, Like we say against Tank, 909 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 2: I also don't know how much all that retirement talk 910 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 2: of Tank of late is actually going to matter when 911 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 2: we get in there, because Tank has shown that ability 912 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 2: no matter what's going on in this personal life, which 913 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,440 Speaker 2: there's been a lot of turmoil. He can focus in 914 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 2: and dial in like no other. So Luke, I guess 915 00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,320 Speaker 2: Roach is going to have to need a Tank that 916 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:06,240 Speaker 2: is two conservative early and reading Roach that he allows 917 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 2: Roach to get up too quickly on the scorecards, and 918 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,280 Speaker 2: then he's got to hope that he can, you know, obviously, 919 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 2: do something that very little have done, land a punch 920 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 2: of consequence to change Tank's demeanor, to change his strategy. 921 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,839 Speaker 2: But he's gonna have to throw a no hitter. Let's 922 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 2: be fair about it, right, He's gonna have to go 923 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,400 Speaker 2: in there and fight the perfect fight. Is it possible? 924 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 9: Yes? 925 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,880 Speaker 2: I mean, even though Tank hurt his hand in the 926 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 2: sixth round against pit Bull Cruise, the things that pit 927 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 2: Bull Cruise did really well gave Tank fits. Tank had 928 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 2: to really lean on his boxing and IQ to figure 929 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 2: that out. Roach is gonna have to do something in 930 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,880 Speaker 2: the middle of this fight to really make Tank have 931 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,320 Speaker 2: to think, have to work, have to adjust. If he 932 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,400 Speaker 2: can't do that, it's going to be a slow burn 933 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 2: until he gets cornered and he gets taken out of there. 934 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 3: We should also talk about the state of Jervonte Davison, 935 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,839 Speaker 3: like what attitude he's bringing into this one because, as 936 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,800 Speaker 3: you mentioned, skipping just a lot of stuff, went to 937 00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,719 Speaker 3: the workouts, didn't do much. Let's roll the clip from 938 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,399 Speaker 3: I think this was yesterday or two days ago this week, 939 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 3: the pre fight presser. He's in a real relaxed mood. 940 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:07,879 Speaker 3: Let's put it that way. 941 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 2: You can kind of see the history that you and 942 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 2: LaMonte both have. Is this a little bit different for 943 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 2: you going into this fight knowing that you guys. 944 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 1: Have that history. 945 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 5: Uh No, you know, I'm gonna do me. I'm gonna 946 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:21,840 Speaker 5: do me. 947 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,320 Speaker 10: We got at least I told him leave his mom's 948 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 10: and you know the people home, he's still rung him. 949 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 10: It's crazy, man, Go get it's gonna get bad. It's 950 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 10: gonna get bad, man. But you know it's a he's 951 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,800 Speaker 10: been talking a little too much too. I've been peating me. 952 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 10: So you know it's close. So we at sea Saturday night. 953 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,400 Speaker 3: He's just got this real relaxed kind of demeanor. And 954 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,839 Speaker 3: I I it does appear like he's been training really 955 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 3: hard at Headbangers. He was not in Houston, he was 956 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,840 Speaker 3: not in Florida. He was here in DC. But I 957 00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 3: don't know, you see between like the weird vibes he 958 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 3: gives off at press conferences and then being like, I 959 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,840 Speaker 3: got three fights left and I'm done. Where is Jervonte 960 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 3: Davis's head in all of this? 961 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's in the midst of figuring it out, 962 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:12,239 Speaker 2: and that's why we've seen such different reactions from him, 963 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,279 Speaker 2: meaning that like when this fight was first announced, you know, 964 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,240 Speaker 2: we heard those rumors that he was fighting with PBC 965 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 2: behind the scenes, he wanted it in Houston. They have 966 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 2: that first press conference and Tank shows up alone with 967 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 2: like no members of his team, I think just his 968 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 2: lawyer now. Subsequently, even though Barry Hunter has been moved 969 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 2: into the number one spot as the head trainer, Calvin Ford, 970 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,720 Speaker 2: his sort of you know, career long trainer and father figure, 971 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,520 Speaker 2: was at yesterday's final press conference will be in his corner. 972 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,400 Speaker 2: So there hasn't been a big tear behind the scenes. 973 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 2: But to act like this isn't that, this isn't a 974 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,279 Speaker 2: topic or a question would be wrong. Let's let's let's 975 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 2: do a little math here. Tank had been an active 976 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 2: fighter for most of his career, but he had a 977 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,919 Speaker 2: more than four hundred day layoff leading into the Frank 978 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,279 Speaker 2: Martin fight. Of course, there was a jail term within 979 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,320 Speaker 2: that when he violated his house arrest. And now this 980 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 2: is a you know, two hundred fift something day layoff, 981 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 2: which is not typical for Tank. And you're hearing him 982 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:08,200 Speaker 2: talk about openly and boxing has supported this, which is 983 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,919 Speaker 2: good to see openly want to change himself. He wants 984 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 2: to get out of boxing and get into therapy, be 985 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,759 Speaker 2: a different person and presentation to his family members and 986 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,320 Speaker 2: those that look up to him. Give in tanks upbringing 987 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 2: and the various missteps outside the ring. That's a good thing. 988 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 2: But even though that can be a narrative toward the 989 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,880 Speaker 2: idea of is he unfocused? Is his head not going 990 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,800 Speaker 2: to be in there? Like I just said thirty you 991 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 2: know a minute ago, he does have that ability to 992 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,279 Speaker 2: bite down and focus. I did notice that comment he 993 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,279 Speaker 2: said right there of hey, Roach, you've been talking a 994 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 2: little too much. I've been watching, so I'll say this, 995 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,239 Speaker 2: like you've heard nothing from Barry Hunter or pretty much 996 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 2: Tank throughout the process. They respect Roach, they know he's 997 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,720 Speaker 2: coming to fight, but as of right now, I don't 998 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,840 Speaker 2: have cause for concern that Tank isn't dialed in and 999 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,600 Speaker 2: won't be ready. And he was kind of colorful yesterday 1000 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 2: after the press conference when he did a media screak. 1001 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,960 Speaker 2: I don't know if you heard him say, like uh 1002 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,200 Speaker 2: he was. He was basically talking down Turkey Ala Sheik, 1003 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,160 Speaker 2: saying he knows nothing about boxing, saying he's giving a 1004 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,839 Speaker 2: devilish vibe and all these photos he does and people 1005 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,800 Speaker 2: are selling their soul to go out there like that 1006 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,399 Speaker 2: was interesting to Harris since he's, you know, the last 1007 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,759 Speaker 2: big name fighter that hasn't made that leap. I don't 1008 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 2: always love when he shoots down the prospect of fighting 1009 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,360 Speaker 2: a Shakor or Keishawn. And some of that though, is 1010 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 2: just posturing, negotiating and all that. But if he wins this, 1011 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,239 Speaker 2: he says he wants to fight twice more this year. 1012 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 2: I need to see him against against one of these 1013 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,560 Speaker 2: title holders Lomachenko, Kishan or Shakur, Stevenson, the Unified belts. 1014 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,719 Speaker 2: It's time. He seems also to want that. I really 1015 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 2: don't know if he's gonna stick to his guns of 1016 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,400 Speaker 2: you know, three more fights and out. He's so valuable 1017 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 2: to not only PBC but the American boxing scene, the 1018 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 2: his live gate. Potentially he's gonna he's gonna shatter I'm 1019 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 2: told the Live Gate Record at Barclay's this weekend. I 1020 00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 2: think his post fight comments if he wins, and I'll 1021 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,279 Speaker 2: be the guy delivering it will be interesting in that 1022 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,759 Speaker 2: regard in terms of like who he's looking at and 1023 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,759 Speaker 2: how much more he wants to do. But do you 1024 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 2: agree with me? Look that it's starting to feel kind 1025 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,200 Speaker 2: of much ado about nothing. Tank looks ready, he looks 1026 00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,839 Speaker 2: dialed in. He can go on anyone's podcast. He wants 1027 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,960 Speaker 2: like he's been doing something a little bit different this 1028 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 2: build up. But whatever, right. 1029 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:22,880 Speaker 5: It? 1030 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,840 Speaker 3: I mean we should we should acknowledge the fact that 1031 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,200 Speaker 3: we've kind of been dancing around it here. We mentioned 1032 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:30,680 Speaker 3: a couple of times. We'll just say it out loud. 1033 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:35,320 Speaker 3: You know, Roach is a is a junior lightweight and 1034 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 3: is coming up here to another weight class BC. I 1035 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,799 Speaker 3: just feel like Tank isn't really dialed in. But I'm 1036 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,720 Speaker 3: also not convinced that he needs to be one hundred 1037 00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,800 Speaker 3: percent dialed in. Not because I don't think Laman is 1038 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,319 Speaker 3: a good boxer. I do, but because I think if 1039 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,840 Speaker 3: Tank trains enough, plus his accuracy and power and he 1040 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,840 Speaker 3: does have good boxing IQ, given that you're taking on 1041 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,239 Speaker 3: something of a smaller opponent, that should be enough. I 1042 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,400 Speaker 3: really do believe that, and in fact, he said he 1043 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,319 Speaker 3: was going to have a round eight or nine. Ko. 1044 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:04,719 Speaker 3: Let's take a look at the face off here very 1045 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,520 Speaker 3: quickly from that same presser, and I would love to 1046 00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,239 Speaker 3: get your reaction to some of this. Look be see 1047 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,160 Speaker 3: they don't look hugely dissimilar in size, man. 1048 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,960 Speaker 2: No they don't. I mean Roach is technically about an 1049 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:19,120 Speaker 2: inch taller or half inch taller, about an inch longer 1050 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,200 Speaker 2: in reach. They're actually pretty close in size. This is 1051 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,760 Speaker 2: the first fight in which Roach is fighting an opponent 1052 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:29,399 Speaker 2: short technically shorter than him in a lot, very long time. 1053 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,640 Speaker 2: So this is going to be what it will be. 1054 00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 2: I don't think the size will matter. You can notice 1055 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,640 Speaker 2: they have a little kind of cheeky fun back and 1056 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,520 Speaker 2: forth here. PBC did ultimately like UFC's been doing of 1057 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,640 Speaker 2: late release the audio. There was sort of some you know, 1058 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,560 Speaker 2: standard trash talk back and forth, but it was confidence 1059 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,719 Speaker 2: trash talk. They don't hate each other. It's just a 1060 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,600 Speaker 2: little bit like I know what I'm gonna do on Saturday. Yeah, 1061 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,600 Speaker 2: wait and see, like we said this whole time, Luke, 1062 00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,720 Speaker 2: the way Roach has handled himself in these press events, 1063 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 2: I've been impressed by But to act like that gives 1064 00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,200 Speaker 2: him three to four more rounds in there or something. No, 1065 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,320 Speaker 2: it doesn't. It's gonna be up to him to do 1066 00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,200 Speaker 2: the one you know, to avoid the one thing that 1067 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,839 Speaker 2: all of Tank's opponents but but you know, one at 1068 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,919 Speaker 2: one basically have avoided. And that's he finds a way 1069 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,600 Speaker 2: to figure out your tell, to put you in the 1070 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,080 Speaker 2: corner and to take you the hell out of there. 1071 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,399 Speaker 2: I love how Roach has been acting, though, but will 1072 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,359 Speaker 2: it be enough? We're gonna see We're gonna see Luca. 1073 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 3: And by the way, on stage, we hadn't seen him 1074 00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,200 Speaker 3: up until this point. Calvin Ford with him there, Barry 1075 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 3: Hunter with him up there kind of and then also 1076 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,440 Speaker 3: there was that was Lamont Roach Senior standing on his 1077 00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,080 Speaker 3: side there. Kind of an interesting thing, all right, BC, 1078 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,719 Speaker 3: very quickly, last question, give me a prediction. I know 1079 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,439 Speaker 3: you're calling the fight, but you have a sense about 1080 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,239 Speaker 3: how it might go. I'll put my cards on the table. 1081 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,759 Speaker 3: I think these Tanks at about round nine stoppage. I'll 1082 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 3: go a little later, I'll say ten or eleven, but 1083 00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:55,320 Speaker 3: I think probably somewhere in that last last third of 1084 00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,239 Speaker 3: the fight, it all comes to a close. 1085 00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the most likely scenario. And what 1086 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,800 Speaker 2: we know about these two, Let's see what Roach can do. 1087 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:04,480 Speaker 2: Let's see if he can give Tink a different look. 1088 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,120 Speaker 2: Let's see if he can push him into those later rounds, 1089 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,040 Speaker 2: which that's also something that's only been done a few times. Right, 1090 00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 2: Cruz went the distance against him, gamboa. I don't want 1091 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,319 Speaker 2: to say gave him trouble, but gave him resistance until 1092 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,160 Speaker 2: I think the final round when he got him out 1093 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,320 Speaker 2: of there. But let's see if Roach can linger, and 1094 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,320 Speaker 2: then let's see if he can take enough chances to 1095 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,279 Speaker 2: have a shot at this. Sorry, I'm getting blurry here. 1096 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,359 Speaker 3: I'm trying to let me ask you a question. How 1097 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,520 Speaker 3: come every time the camera goes back to you you 1098 00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,120 Speaker 3: have different lighting on your face? 1099 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,719 Speaker 2: So my lighting just died, So I got it plugged in. 1100 00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,000 Speaker 2: I'm recharging it again, so I'm kind of just holding 1101 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,439 Speaker 2: it from a different angle. All right, Well, either way, Luke, 1102 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,840 Speaker 2: I have put the lotion in the basket. If you're wondering, 1103 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:42,359 Speaker 2: All right. 1104 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,839 Speaker 3: Let's go to topic number three. If we can hear 1105 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,440 Speaker 3: BC Oh, excuse me, hold on, before I do that. 1106 00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,319 Speaker 3: Before I do that, we got to mention here very 1107 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:54,239 Speaker 3: quickly BC, the Solita Promotions with the subrio Mattias Gabrielle 1108 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,440 Speaker 3: Valnezuela IBF world title eliminary. So this is going to 1109 00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:01,560 Speaker 3: be live on his own from Fajardo, Rico, BC, What 1110 00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,360 Speaker 3: can you tell us about I mean, super real Matis 1111 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:04,880 Speaker 3: we already kind of know what the score is. A 1112 00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:09,239 Speaker 3: dynamic puncher who is Gabriel Valenzuela. What's what can we 1113 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,719 Speaker 3: expect from this matchup from his own which, as I 1114 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,479 Speaker 3: mentioned before, is going to be in Puerto Rico. 1115 00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and shout out to you know, certainly friends of 1116 00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:20,719 Speaker 2: the program and in boxing Al Bernstein, Raoul Marquez among those. 1117 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,600 Speaker 2: I think that'll be on that call in Puerto Rico. 1118 00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,640 Speaker 2: This fight is more about suprial mattaeas for sure, he 1119 00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,040 Speaker 2: was the boogeyman of the one hundred and forty pound division. 1120 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,919 Speaker 2: We've told this story before made so was it five 1121 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,400 Speaker 2: guys in a row? Quit was getting that lomas Chenko reputation. 1122 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:37,759 Speaker 2: And I don't know if as much as he's a 1123 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,600 Speaker 2: menacing punter as he's just a bully in there. But 1124 00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,239 Speaker 2: Liam Paro and June of last year, did I don't 1125 00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,480 Speaker 2: want to say expose him as the scorecards were close, 1126 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,560 Speaker 2: but Paro came into enemy territory in Puerto Rico and 1127 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:54,399 Speaker 2: rightfully won that that decision took the IVF world title there, 1128 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,840 Speaker 2: and although we did see superal Matias come back in 1129 00:54:57,960 --> 00:54:59,920 Speaker 2: November of last year and score a second round tak 1130 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,279 Speaker 2: in Puerto Rico, this is now a step in a 1131 00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:07,040 Speaker 2: better direction, I would think. Opponent wise, is Gabriel Valanzuela 1132 00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,600 Speaker 2: a killer, No, but he's thirty three loss his one 1133 00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,160 Speaker 2: draw thirty wins. As I mentioned there, the thirty year 1134 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,799 Speaker 2: old from Mexico five foot ten is on a five 1135 00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:19,120 Speaker 2: fight win streak since his decision lost to Montana Love 1136 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,040 Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty two. It will be a good test, 1137 00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,799 Speaker 2: a continued test here to see if Mattias is long 1138 00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,480 Speaker 2: for getting back into this title picture. We know there's 1139 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,759 Speaker 2: been talk about him fighting Tao Femo, but Tayo Femo 1140 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,359 Speaker 2: turned it down due to the pay per view money 1141 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,239 Speaker 2: that was going to be offered to him. But it's 1142 00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,000 Speaker 2: going to be interesting to see if Mattias can work 1143 00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,160 Speaker 2: his way back in. It's never a boring fight though 1144 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,120 Speaker 2: when he fights, so check that out this weekend on his. 1145 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,720 Speaker 3: Own, no doubt, about it, and of course Leader Promotions 1146 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,840 Speaker 3: you might know. They're the folks that have developed Clarissa Shields, 1147 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,960 Speaker 3: Darrell Miller, Jermaine Franklin, Otto Vallin, lots of folks in 1148 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,600 Speaker 3: a good undercard fight there as well, between Alfredo Santiago 1149 00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:58,520 Speaker 3: and Nestor Bravo. BC. You're a basketball guy, certainly I 1150 00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,520 Speaker 3: am as well. 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Is it the worst card in APEX 1194 00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:20,440 Speaker 2: recent fight night history? 1195 00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,840 Speaker 3: It's it's it's up there Long Island, Luke, give me 1196 00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,760 Speaker 3: a grade for UFC. Slop about where this goes? 1197 00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,280 Speaker 1: Ah? Four? Oh ship. 1198 00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,320 Speaker 4: If it's even a four for you, that must be 1199 00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,360 Speaker 4: I mean, dude, I'm doing the full card, watch along. 1200 00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,200 Speaker 4: I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm gonna watch every fight. 1201 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:36,959 Speaker 3: But is it a good card? 1202 00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:37,160 Speaker 2: No? 1203 00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,360 Speaker 4: The Co Maine event has two guys with losing records 1204 00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,720 Speaker 4: in the UFC. It's literally arguably the worst Comaine in history. 1205 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:48,320 Speaker 4: I looked back. Carlos Felipe versus Jorgan di Castro was 1206 00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,320 Speaker 4: a Comaine on a card headlined by Holly Holm versus 1207 00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:52,280 Speaker 4: Irene Aldona. 1208 00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:53,960 Speaker 5: That's pretty rough. 1209 00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:58,000 Speaker 2: But does Home Star Power just take over for all 1210 00:58:58,040 --> 00:58:58,880 Speaker 2: of that? Does it cover that? 1211 00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:00,880 Speaker 5: I don't know, that's what they assumed. I guess I 1212 00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:01,560 Speaker 5: don't know, dude. 1213 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,360 Speaker 3: All right, But BC, in your main event, we have Flyways, 1214 00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:08,440 Speaker 3: Manil Cop and the Kazakh Asu Almbayev, by the way, 1215 00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,720 Speaker 3: an interesting name and a very good fighter. Okay, let 1216 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,520 Speaker 3: me just ask a very basic question, BC, and I 1217 00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,240 Speaker 3: mean it. I don't mean it necessarily in a hater way, 1218 00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,680 Speaker 3: but we have to ask it this way just by 1219 00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:22,840 Speaker 3: the nature of what's happening. Why should we care about 1220 00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:23,640 Speaker 3: this main event. 1221 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,600 Speaker 2: Who obviously was supposed to be man Nel Cop versus 1222 00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,800 Speaker 2: Brandon Royval, which would be would have been a perfect 1223 00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:35,160 Speaker 2: crossroads Number one contender fight in the sense that Royval 1224 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,920 Speaker 2: has been there, He's held his place in the title picture, 1225 00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,760 Speaker 2: and if he could have beaten the red Hot Streaking Cop, 1226 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:43,880 Speaker 2: he could still be in their contention for the next 1227 00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,480 Speaker 2: title shot. Right Cop to the different story, he feels 1228 00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,520 Speaker 2: like he's long overdue for that. He loves saying crazy 1229 00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,600 Speaker 2: things into a microphone. He once said he would show 1230 00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,320 Speaker 2: up a Dana's door if he didn't get a title shot. Well, 1231 00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,280 Speaker 2: he told me, Luke, when I interviewed him this week, 1232 00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:58,600 Speaker 2: that he's been more like it seems a matter of 1233 00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:00,240 Speaker 2: fact the way he said it, that he's more or 1234 01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,320 Speaker 2: less guaranteed a title shot with a win. So to 1235 01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,280 Speaker 2: act like this fight means nothing would be wrong. It 1236 01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,400 Speaker 2: is a important fight at the top end of this division. 1237 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,840 Speaker 2: I say top end ish right, because h Asu is 1238 01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,040 Speaker 2: ranked number eight, but long Island. Luke was talking about 1239 01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,040 Speaker 2: this guy before I knew he existed. Twenty one and 1240 01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,680 Speaker 2: two overall, thirty one years old out of Kazakhstan, unbeaten 1241 01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:26,480 Speaker 2: in four UFC fights. Yes, the last three have gone 1242 01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,560 Speaker 2: to decision, but he's been rising. That decision went over 1243 01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,600 Speaker 2: Matteias Nicolau, and his last bout is not nothing. This 1244 01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:34,440 Speaker 2: is a leap for him though, in terms of the 1245 01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,920 Speaker 2: level that he's fought, I don't think he gets a 1246 01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,240 Speaker 2: title shot with a win, but I think he can 1247 01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:42,560 Speaker 2: certainly catapult himself to the top. So good stakes and 1248 01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:45,120 Speaker 2: it seems like it's gonna be an interesting matchup. But Luke, 1249 01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:48,720 Speaker 2: if we're being very fair, not everybody knows a lot 1250 01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:52,960 Speaker 2: about as su Almbaya Almabayev. Excuse me, how do you 1251 01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:54,880 Speaker 2: think he matches up against kat. 1252 01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,720 Speaker 3: Okay? So let me give you some statistics for him, 1253 01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:05,760 Speaker 3: because I was looking this up before the before the 1254 01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:09,960 Speaker 3: show today. So some of his numbers are really impressive, 1255 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:11,520 Speaker 3: and I watched some tape on him as well. Obviously 1256 01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,440 Speaker 3: I watched the Nicolau fight. I watched the Osborne fight, 1257 01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:15,440 Speaker 3: I watched the Vergara fight. I didn't see the Johnson fight, 1258 01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:17,960 Speaker 3: but I watched the rest of them. I mean, some 1259 01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:19,920 Speaker 3: of these numbers are very impressive. Bea, see strikes some 1260 01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,680 Speaker 3: sword permantent one point oh two. That's so low. I 1261 01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:25,480 Speaker 3: mean that's such a great number. But strikes landed permnt 1262 01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,880 Speaker 3: it two point one one fucking anemic. I mean, he's 1263 01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:32,400 Speaker 3: got a positive he's got a positive striking differential by 1264 01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:35,000 Speaker 3: full integer. But it's really not that interesting, you know, 1265 01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,360 Speaker 3: by contrast strikes landing per minut at four cop five 1266 01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,200 Speaker 3: strikes some sworred permanent four. That's high on both counts, 1267 01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:41,360 Speaker 3: but you can just see it. There's just a lot 1268 01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,560 Speaker 3: more going. Now, what's interesting is the takedown component. That's 1269 01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:46,760 Speaker 3: obviously where this I just think that's where this fight's 1270 01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,880 Speaker 3: going to be one or lost. He averages Almabayah five 1271 01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,640 Speaker 3: point zero eight takedowns per fifteen minutes, so he's good 1272 01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,400 Speaker 3: for almost two a round. That's a lot. And his 1273 01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:57,840 Speaker 3: submission average per fifteen minutes is one point seven, so 1274 01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,360 Speaker 3: he's kind of tying them up. If you watch the tape, 1275 01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:04,080 Speaker 3: he does a lot of winging overhands to level changes 1276 01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,280 Speaker 3: to get into people, and then from there he does 1277 01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:09,560 Speaker 3: have a series of good finishes and he's got so 1278 01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,600 Speaker 3: so ground and pound. It's not bad, but it's not terrible. 1279 01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:14,880 Speaker 3: By any stretch of the imagination. He appears to be 1280 01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,440 Speaker 3: in good shape. So the question you really have to 1281 01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:21,800 Speaker 3: ask yourself is can Cop intercept him on any kind 1282 01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,200 Speaker 3: of takedown or level change opportunity? Is that going to 1283 01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:26,640 Speaker 3: be on the cards or be if he does get 1284 01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,240 Speaker 3: taken down to what extent can he thwart any advancement 1285 01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,320 Speaker 3: therein it's a five round contest that does favor Alma 1286 01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:35,120 Speaker 3: baiv I think the longer it goes. But to me, 1287 01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:38,440 Speaker 3: Cop is just a significantly higher level fighter, or at 1288 01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:41,520 Speaker 3: least I should say this, up to this point, has 1289 01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:43,760 Speaker 3: shown himself to be a higher level fighter who has 1290 01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:50,080 Speaker 3: beaten better guys. Now you can't yuh, I have them here. 1291 01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:55,360 Speaker 3: Our friends at Draft Kings, they've got let's see, let 1292 01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:58,160 Speaker 3: me pull it up here if I can. Now, I 1293 01:02:58,200 --> 01:02:59,440 Speaker 3: don't have it in front of me. Where is it, 1294 01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:06,680 Speaker 3: Alma Biev? Oh wait, we got Breaking Youth, the. 1295 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:07,920 Speaker 5: Opening bow of the Night. 1296 01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:12,400 Speaker 4: Montana de la Rosa versus Luana Carolina is can't because 1297 01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,040 Speaker 4: Luana Carolina could not make weight. 1298 01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:17,680 Speaker 3: And nothing of value was lost. 1299 01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:22,080 Speaker 2: And I'm not kidding. That was probably my second most 1300 01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:22,880 Speaker 2: anticipated fight. 1301 01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:24,000 Speaker 3: I bet it was you, Horne. 1302 01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,280 Speaker 2: No, I mean it, I mean it. I'm disappointed. 1303 01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:28,880 Speaker 3: I've got your odds here, our friends at DraftKings Manel 1304 01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:32,720 Speaker 3: Cop minus two eighteen to Almabiev's plus one eighty. I 1305 01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,200 Speaker 3: think that's actually a little generous to Almabia. Don't get 1306 01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:36,840 Speaker 3: me wrong, but see, I think he can win here. 1307 01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,760 Speaker 3: I do think that if Cop is because you know Cop, 1308 01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:41,960 Speaker 3: he likes to land something and then he does a 1309 01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:43,680 Speaker 3: dance and shit, and it's like, did you do that 1310 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:45,960 Speaker 3: against this guy? That could be a real problem. You 1311 01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:50,400 Speaker 3: have to have a disciplined, focused, consistent application of your 1312 01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:52,360 Speaker 3: game to beat him, which if he does, I think 1313 01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,320 Speaker 3: he runs away with it. Alma Biev is limited. He's 1314 01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:57,520 Speaker 3: gonna have to get the takedown. His ground and pound though, 1315 01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,920 Speaker 3: was not ferocious. So for all those reasons, this to 1316 01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:04,800 Speaker 3: me feels like it's cops fight to lose. We shall 1317 01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:08,919 Speaker 3: see right now. You spoke to Cop and you talked 1318 01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,360 Speaker 3: him about the differences between some of the opponents. He's 1319 01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,480 Speaker 3: had another changes that were made here. Let's see what 1320 01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:15,040 Speaker 3: he had to say. 1321 01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:20,640 Speaker 9: I think the different is just about the highest. You know, 1322 01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:25,080 Speaker 9: Brandon Haba is more toller. You know, he's a fighter 1323 01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:32,560 Speaker 9: that I was working more my body shots and is 1324 01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:35,400 Speaker 9: a fighter where I where I can work more the 1325 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:39,520 Speaker 9: shots in the head. You know, Uh, his head's going 1326 01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,280 Speaker 9: to be there. Is my as a target. You know, 1327 01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,400 Speaker 9: he's a fighter that don't move so much his hips, 1328 01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:49,960 Speaker 9: his shoulders, So I think its face is going to be. 1329 01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:56,080 Speaker 3: Full of blood. What did you make of that, BC? 1330 01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,240 Speaker 2: Bloody face? Yes, full of blood. I believe that he 1331 01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:03,200 Speaker 2: doesn't feel that Amabi lev is on. I've just butchered 1332 01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:03,520 Speaker 2: that again. 1333 01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:04,440 Speaker 3: Dam what is it? 1334 01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:05,320 Speaker 2: Alma Biev? 1335 01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:05,720 Speaker 1: Thank you? 1336 01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:10,960 Speaker 2: Cheris thank you. He doesn't believe he's on his level. 1337 01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:14,520 Speaker 2: So look, look, I like Cop in this fight for sure, Luke, 1338 01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,439 Speaker 2: he can be a little bit off and off the mark. 1339 01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,479 Speaker 2: Here I expected my interview to get a rowdy cop, 1340 01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,320 Speaker 2: you know, calling out everybody from KKF to is he 1341 01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,560 Speaker 2: to the dude's wild. No, he was reserved. He was 1342 01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:28,640 Speaker 2: calling he had his daughter in his arms. He's a 1343 01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:32,320 Speaker 2: lot more calculated obviously behind the scenes than he shows 1344 01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,200 Speaker 2: right because he shows himself to kind of be a 1345 01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:37,760 Speaker 2: bad shit, crazy and fun and out of control and 1346 01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:41,960 Speaker 2: also says absolutely ridiculous things into a microphone. But Luke, 1347 01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:44,680 Speaker 2: he can't. He does have a complete game. He is 1348 01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:48,480 Speaker 2: cheeky in there from the standpoint that he'll piss you off. 1349 01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,320 Speaker 2: He's got antics. I think he believes that he's going 1350 01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:53,520 Speaker 2: to run rough house on this guy and that he's 1351 01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,400 Speaker 2: going to get the title shot next. He thinks he's 1352 01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:59,520 Speaker 2: going to get the winner of Pantosia versus KKF. And 1353 01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:02,840 Speaker 2: remember he has that loss to Pantosia a few years 1354 01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,280 Speaker 2: back that he says, if it was a five round fight, 1355 01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:08,960 Speaker 2: he would have won. Okay, okay, but he has no 1356 01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:12,760 Speaker 2: preference ultimately in who he gets out of that matchup. 1357 01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:17,200 Speaker 2: But Luke, I am a believer that he's going to 1358 01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:19,800 Speaker 2: get into a title fight soon and I think he 1359 01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:23,280 Speaker 2: could be champion. Obviously, he's got to win this one first. 1360 01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:26,200 Speaker 2: But are you of that belief that this guy is 1361 01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,120 Speaker 2: the real deal in this division, cop. 1362 01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:35,400 Speaker 3: Yes, I think he can be a legitimate threat if 1363 01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:39,400 Speaker 3: he can put everything together. Yes, I've seen flashes from him, 1364 01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:44,720 Speaker 3: great athleticism, obviously, great striker, great reaction, good timing, you know, 1365 01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:46,560 Speaker 3: and other pieces of his game are coming together. If 1366 01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:49,200 Speaker 3: he can really tighten up everything and put it all together, 1367 01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,400 Speaker 3: and again we've seen pieces here, pieces here, pieces here, 1368 01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:54,160 Speaker 3: put all that together, he can win a title in 1369 01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:54,440 Speaker 3: this way. 1370 01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:54,720 Speaker 1: Class. 1371 01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:57,840 Speaker 3: I believe that, I truly believe that Almah Bayah will 1372 01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,960 Speaker 3: be a good test BCEE in the sense that Almabiah 1373 01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:04,200 Speaker 3: doesn't have Pantoja's game. But if you're gonna go into 1374 01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:06,800 Speaker 3: a title shot after beating Almabai, I'm assuming that that's 1375 01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:10,360 Speaker 3: what happens. You're getting ready for Pantoja by fighting a 1376 01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,000 Speaker 3: guy who's gonna be grappling you first. That's good prep. 1377 01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:15,520 Speaker 3: That's really good prep for him. So this could set 1378 01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:18,400 Speaker 3: him up real well to then go say anti gay slurs, 1379 01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:22,280 Speaker 3: but or also win a UFC title either way by 1380 01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:25,280 Speaker 3: being serious like he actually has a this Actually, some 1381 01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,160 Speaker 3: of these short notice fights, they're dangerous because you're getting 1382 01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:30,760 Speaker 3: a dangerous guy that you're not prepared for. At the 1383 01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:34,959 Speaker 3: same time, depending on how it goes, some of these 1384 01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:40,680 Speaker 3: could be tune ups for the Big Boss eventually later 1385 01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:44,000 Speaker 3: in the year, and this could end up being something. 1386 01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:44,480 Speaker 1: Just like that. 1387 01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:49,040 Speaker 2: I do believe that has won five of his last six, Luke, 1388 01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:53,600 Speaker 2: And I thought he looked almost virtuoso VIRTUOI virtue. He 1389 01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:56,480 Speaker 2: looked like a damn virtuoso against Bruno Silva, did he not? 1390 01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,880 Speaker 3: He did? The Makaiah fight was a weird ass fight. 1391 01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:02,120 Speaker 3: I didn't love that one. I think if he thought 1392 01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:03,439 Speaker 3: that one again it would be better. 1393 01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:05,919 Speaker 2: But and you know, he has a split decision lost 1394 01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:08,880 Speaker 2: to Nicolau back in the day, and Nicolau just got 1395 01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,840 Speaker 2: defeated by Asu. So I don't know whatever you want 1396 01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:12,520 Speaker 2: to do with that info. 1397 01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:14,960 Speaker 3: Fair enough be s going down this card. If I may, 1398 01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:19,320 Speaker 3: your co Maine Cody brund is taken on Julian Marquez. 1399 01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:20,720 Speaker 3: I don't want to be mean to him, but that's 1400 01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:22,240 Speaker 3: just no no. 1401 01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:24,400 Speaker 2: Well, can I bring a long Island, Luke, because I 1402 01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:28,920 Speaker 2: heard you mentioned this recently Long Island of this fact 1403 01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,840 Speaker 2: that Marquez seems to be much closer to losing his 1404 01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:35,880 Speaker 2: employment than Brundage. And I've seen everyone on Twitter putting 1405 01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:38,640 Speaker 2: as much money as possible on the Cody stoppage. Do 1406 01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:40,400 Speaker 2: you still stay in that lane? 1407 01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:44,000 Speaker 4: I mean, Julian Marquez has been KO three times in 1408 01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:46,400 Speaker 4: a row, and I just feel like we want to 1409 01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:48,960 Speaker 4: talk about Gaichie's chin being gone. I think Julian Marquez's 1410 01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,840 Speaker 4: chin is gone. But I would never trust betting on 1411 01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:54,720 Speaker 4: Cody Brundage. So like, this fight is just a crapshoot. 1412 01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,160 Speaker 4: I took fight does not go the distance in a parlay. 1413 01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:59,360 Speaker 4: I feel like that's the only logical thing that's going 1414 01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,240 Speaker 4: to happen here. But both I wouldn't trust my money 1415 01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:03,040 Speaker 4: on either of these guys. 1416 01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:06,880 Speaker 3: To be honest, UFC Fight Night, I wouldn't trust my 1417 01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:10,000 Speaker 3: money on either of these guys. Tune in Live at seven. 1418 01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:12,639 Speaker 3: Also on this card, we see there are some good fights. 1419 01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:17,400 Speaker 3: First of all, nasat hack Paras taking on Esteban Ribovic's Rubavich. 1420 01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:19,280 Speaker 3: I can never say his last name correctly, one of 1421 01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:22,439 Speaker 3: these Argentines with these weird names. That's a great fight. 1422 01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:25,080 Speaker 3: That's a great fight. I cannot believe that that's not 1423 01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:27,240 Speaker 3: the Comaine, but whatever, it's the fifty five, so I 1424 01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:29,680 Speaker 3: guess they put it lower after that is there are 1425 01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:31,920 Speaker 3: there are some good ones, hear me out, Not these though, 1426 01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:37,719 Speaker 3: William Gomes versus Hyder Amul zero out of zero. Danny 1427 01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:40,599 Speaker 3: Barlow taking on Sam Peterson no interest or at least 1428 01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,880 Speaker 3: very little anyway. Danny's undefeated, but I'm not sure about 1429 01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:47,320 Speaker 3: him yet. Austin Lane taking on Mario Pinto. Pinto undefeated, 1430 01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:49,280 Speaker 3: but it's heavyweight. I don't know what the fuck to say. 1431 01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:53,200 Speaker 3: Here's an interesting one. Hikardo Homos taken on Chepe Mariscal. 1432 01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:58,360 Speaker 3: That's a fun action fight. Da Silva Douglas Silva Deondrage 1433 01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:02,320 Speaker 3: taken on John Castan Jeda interesting, kind of a fun one. 1434 01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,240 Speaker 2: Is jackedas Shit always right? 1435 01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:06,400 Speaker 3: Is jack as shit? Lucas Al made it. Taken on 1436 01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:08,759 Speaker 3: Danny Silva. I could take it or leave it. Andrea 1437 01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:10,800 Speaker 3: Lee taken on JJ Aldrich. Bit of a coming or 1438 01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:14,080 Speaker 3: going fight for both of them, frankly, but the fight 1439 01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:16,639 Speaker 3: that might be the best one on the card. Energy. 1440 01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:21,240 Speaker 3: Charles Johnson taking on Ramazan Temarov. Dude, that's a fun 1441 01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:24,519 Speaker 3: ass fight. Charles Johnson had a great twenty twenty four. 1442 01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,080 Speaker 3: He looks poised, to make a run. I can't believe 1443 01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,479 Speaker 3: they have him this far down on the on the 1444 01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:33,040 Speaker 3: fight card essentially, but I love that contest long Now, Look, 1445 01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,800 Speaker 3: do you agree with me, Charles Johnson Ramazan Temarov, that's 1446 01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:36,479 Speaker 3: the good one here. 1447 01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:37,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, this should be a good fight. 1448 01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:40,280 Speaker 4: The odds are actually crazy on that because Charles Johnson 1449 01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:43,240 Speaker 4: was like plus one twenty, like maybe on Monday. He's 1450 01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:46,400 Speaker 4: minus one thirty now and now Temarrov's the dog plus 1451 01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:48,639 Speaker 4: one ten. So a lot of money coming in on energy. 1452 01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,679 Speaker 2: Hey, tough turn from Riebovich to go from the damn 1453 01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:54,680 Speaker 2: sphere to the Apex. But they did say on that 1454 01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:58,719 Speaker 2: TKO earnings call that UFC plans to take what would 1455 01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,439 Speaker 2: have been a handful Apex fights this year and move 1456 01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:04,920 Speaker 2: it to international cities. And not only is that great news, 1457 01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:08,479 Speaker 2: but it's probably fueled by their in mid construction anyway 1458 01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:12,000 Speaker 2: on the Apex right now in terms of building more 1459 01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:14,280 Speaker 2: facility for people to be Hey, do we still have 1460 01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:16,920 Speaker 2: that funny tweet about UFC matchmaking because this might be 1461 01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:18,040 Speaker 2: the new litmus test. 1462 01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:21,080 Speaker 3: Yes, So it's the one at the top from the 1463 01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,679 Speaker 3: topic number one. It's called funny tweet. Long Anlogether any 1464 01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,040 Speaker 3: sorry I had I was going to my notes. Any 1465 01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:29,760 Speaker 3: UFC card with more than seven fighters that I've heard 1466 01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:31,800 Speaker 3: of is what is considered stacked at this point. 1467 01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,760 Speaker 2: Okay, well that's obviously a joke, is that true? Like 1468 01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:37,040 Speaker 2: that might be that's the new Mendoza line, right, if 1469 01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:39,760 Speaker 2: or maybe how many Wikipedia pages does a fight Night 1470 01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:43,680 Speaker 2: card need to be acceptable in twenty twenty. 1471 01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:48,400 Speaker 3: Five at least fifty percent? Right? But I don't know 1472 01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:50,320 Speaker 3: if you you know what. Let's see because I'm actually 1473 01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:53,000 Speaker 3: not looking at Wiki. Let's actually see that for just 1474 01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:56,040 Speaker 3: a second. Hold on, I wanna, I wanna see this. 1475 01:11:56,640 --> 01:12:02,080 Speaker 3: How many Wikipedia entries does the current fight card have 1476 01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:06,200 Speaker 3: for us here this weekend? All right? Show? So let's 1477 01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:09,120 Speaker 3: see copping I'm a bye of both have it, Brundage 1478 01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:12,560 Speaker 3: and Marquez have it, only Hack Parast has one, and 1479 01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:15,320 Speaker 3: that's the rest on the main card. So only five 1480 01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:17,800 Speaker 3: on the main card, so fifty it on the main card. 1481 01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:20,799 Speaker 3: On the prelim card, it's a little bit more common. 1482 01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:24,880 Speaker 3: Lane has one. Homos Doug this to Silva down, Drodge, Castaneda, Lee, 1483 01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:28,240 Speaker 3: Aldrich Johnson, and then they wiped off the last one. 1484 01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:31,200 Speaker 3: So yeah, you're at you're at about fifty to fifty 1485 01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:32,920 Speaker 3: I guess, so, I guess it has to be higher 1486 01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:34,599 Speaker 3: than that. It should be seventy five percent PC. 1487 01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:37,040 Speaker 2: All right, Hey, I'm done complaining for the day. Let's 1488 01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:40,400 Speaker 2: enjoy the fights on Saturday. Whether you're watching Tank Roach 1489 01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:43,639 Speaker 2: or you're watching UFC Fight Night, it's what we got, Luke. Okay, 1490 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:47,040 Speaker 2: but this Cko takeover is coming to all of our sports. 1491 01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:48,080 Speaker 2: It's it's inevitable. 1492 01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:50,280 Speaker 3: Good all right, Let's go through topic number four here. 1493 01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:52,799 Speaker 3: It's not the biggest one, but it definitely made some headlines. 1494 01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,160 Speaker 3: It was all over social media. B See, we're gonna 1495 01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:58,800 Speaker 3: need you to to UK Boxing explain this to us. 1496 01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:01,639 Speaker 3: Chris you Bank Junior and Connor be They are set 1497 01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:05,240 Speaker 3: to compete I think in the end of April, if 1498 01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:07,519 Speaker 3: memory serves, I'll look up the date here specifically in 1499 01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:10,600 Speaker 3: just a second. BC, these are not household names in 1500 01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:14,240 Speaker 3: the United States, but they have had any electric run 1501 01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:17,559 Speaker 3: in terms of this press conference. Let's before we even 1502 01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:20,880 Speaker 3: go to BC, let's show the egging incident in question 1503 01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:21,439 Speaker 3: here if we can. 1504 01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:24,080 Speaker 1: You goes on. 1505 01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:34,080 Speaker 3: All right, so he hit him in the side of 1506 01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:37,000 Speaker 3: the head with an egg. BC, who is Chris Bank junior, 1507 01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:39,800 Speaker 3: Chris u Bank junior, excuse me, who is connor Ben? 1508 01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:41,640 Speaker 3: Why did he hit him in the face with a 1509 01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:42,240 Speaker 3: fucking egg? 1510 01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:44,479 Speaker 2: So, look, I did not I said this on my 1511 01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:46,679 Speaker 2: my live chat the other day. I did not expect 1512 01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:48,240 Speaker 2: to care about this fight. It's not that I don't 1513 01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:50,519 Speaker 2: know these guys. They're big stars in the UK. They're 1514 01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:53,320 Speaker 2: both son of great fighters. And the reason why this 1515 01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:55,800 Speaker 2: matchup is happening when they're in separate weight classes, right, 1516 01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:57,880 Speaker 2: We're gonna do it a catchwaight here you. Bank has 1517 01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:00,800 Speaker 2: fought largely at sixty and sixty eight. Ben has fought 1518 01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,120 Speaker 2: largely at forty seven and fifty four, so they're going 1519 01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:06,280 Speaker 2: to come together in the middle. Their dads had a 1520 01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:08,920 Speaker 2: deep rivalry and fought each other a couple times, so 1521 01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:11,960 Speaker 2: that's the first and foremost. Then this fight was already 1522 01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:14,000 Speaker 2: scheduled back in twenty twenty two, and they had an 1523 01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:17,320 Speaker 2: electric press conference back then, and it was connor Ben's 1524 01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:21,719 Speaker 2: failed drug test, which he, like Canelo, calling out tainted 1525 01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:25,519 Speaker 2: Mexican beef. Connor Ben claims and swears it was due 1526 01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:29,320 Speaker 2: to tainted eggs that he ate, so it actually played 1527 01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:33,200 Speaker 2: into the storyline for U Bank who's always been brashed. 1528 01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:36,160 Speaker 2: Both guys are to come out and do that. But Luke, 1529 01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:40,439 Speaker 2: this has evolved into something now that we all must see. 1530 01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:45,240 Speaker 2: So this will be Turkey's first ring magazine branded fight 1531 01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,600 Speaker 2: card series that he's bringing to the States eventually, but 1532 01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:50,479 Speaker 2: all over the world. This fight will be in London 1533 01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:52,800 Speaker 2: in late April. Then in early May we're going to 1534 01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:56,120 Speaker 2: see that Garcia and Haini doubleheader, if not Times Square 1535 01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:58,479 Speaker 2: somewhere in New York City. So this is the one 1536 01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:03,080 Speaker 2: that Tanks privately fund. Turkey is privately funding himself. And 1537 01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:06,000 Speaker 2: I was gonna say that I wouldn't really have cared 1538 01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:07,960 Speaker 2: too much about this fight, even though I like the 1539 01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:11,600 Speaker 2: fighters and their personalities. But this Jack's it up the 1540 01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:13,880 Speaker 2: egging in the first press conference. I think we have 1541 01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:16,479 Speaker 2: tape from the second press conference. You also had the 1542 01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:20,240 Speaker 2: two promoters, Ben Shaloma boxer and Eddie Hearn pushing each 1543 01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:25,120 Speaker 2: other on the stage, getting into heated conversations during interviews afterwards, 1544 01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:28,120 Speaker 2: trade and trash talk. Now you got the dads involved, 1545 01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:30,599 Speaker 2: and Ben and you Ben going out. I mean, it's 1546 01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:34,960 Speaker 2: it's Ben, Luke. It is a proper soap opera pro 1547 01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:40,200 Speaker 2: wrestling style. Garbage bind build that boxing needs every once 1548 01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:43,720 Speaker 2: in a while. Remember David Hay got glassed that time 1549 01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:47,120 Speaker 2: with what fight was that was that? David Hay, Derek Jasaur. 1550 01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:49,840 Speaker 2: I'm not making this up. He glassed me, he glassed me. 1551 01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:54,040 Speaker 2: These moments happen in boxing. It's ridiculous, it's disrespectful. But 1552 01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:57,880 Speaker 2: you know what they succeeded. They got our fricking attention. 1553 01:15:58,280 --> 01:15:59,880 Speaker 2: This is a fight all boxing fans need. 1554 01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:02,120 Speaker 3: See now, I mean, look at some of these assets 1555 01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,800 Speaker 3: we have. So we sewed the egging incident. Here's Chris 1556 01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:07,920 Speaker 3: you Bank kind of just doubling down on being real 1557 01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:08,519 Speaker 3: mean about it. 1558 01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:14,800 Speaker 6: Did I cross the line? I mean, you know, during 1559 01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:17,479 Speaker 6: this whole process, over the last two and a half years, 1560 01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:22,120 Speaker 6: I think many lines have been crossed. You know, I'm 1561 01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:26,439 Speaker 6: sitting up here today on a stage with two of 1562 01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:31,639 Speaker 6: the scummiest characters in boxing, in my opinion, a drug 1563 01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:34,799 Speaker 6: cheat and a man who did everything in his power 1564 01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:40,080 Speaker 6: to help him get away with it. So me throwing 1565 01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:46,960 Speaker 6: an egg at somebody who absurdly claims that that is 1566 01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:49,640 Speaker 6: the reason why you failed to drugs tests because of 1567 01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:53,519 Speaker 6: contaminated eggs, I think that's light and I think that's deserved. 1568 01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:59,479 Speaker 6: He deserved the embarrassment of what happened. You know, if 1569 01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:01,480 Speaker 6: I had an you need to do it again. 1570 01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:09,320 Speaker 3: I would, uh what what's the Samuel L. Jackson line? Yes, 1571 01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:11,600 Speaker 3: I killed that woman or whatever, and I hope they 1572 01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:12,240 Speaker 3: burning hell. 1573 01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:14,559 Speaker 2: I was like, he look, did you see that? After 1574 01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:16,560 Speaker 2: the egging, Eddie Hearn did an interview and he was like, 1575 01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:19,439 Speaker 2: it's on site at the next press conference, like people 1576 01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:21,519 Speaker 2: are ready to kill over this fight. 1577 01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,240 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, well look at this. Let's keep going. Here's 1578 01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:27,640 Speaker 3: Chris you Bank not not only smashing an egg into 1579 01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:30,120 Speaker 3: the side ahead of Connor Ben, here's some talking to 1580 01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:31,320 Speaker 3: Connor Ben's dad. 1581 01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:36,240 Speaker 6: But you did put your hand on my neck. Yeah, 1582 01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:38,720 Speaker 6: and I'm going to give you a pause because of 1583 01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:42,800 Speaker 6: what happened. But I'm just letting you know if your 1584 01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:44,920 Speaker 6: hand never touches me again, you won't get it back. 1585 01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:46,639 Speaker 5: Shut your fucking mouth. 1586 01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:56,120 Speaker 3: You could, you could. I'm not threatening him. I'm just 1587 01:17:56,240 --> 01:18:06,360 Speaker 3: like old school mate. 1588 01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:08,479 Speaker 5: If he's that an old school mike. 1589 01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:09,759 Speaker 11: So this is no problem. 1590 01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:10,479 Speaker 3: I understanding. 1591 01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:11,960 Speaker 9: I to doing that, mate. 1592 01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:15,160 Speaker 2: Shout out to Nigel Ben so Luke that was rooted 1593 01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:18,880 Speaker 2: in what basically happened was Ben's team thought they didn't 1594 01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:20,360 Speaker 2: think it was an egg. They thought it was either 1595 01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:22,519 Speaker 2: a slap or he had hit him with some type 1596 01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:25,439 Speaker 2: of foreign object. It was, obviously, but not not a 1597 01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:28,400 Speaker 2: hard one. It wasn't brass knuckles or anything. So Nigel Ben, 1598 01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:30,800 Speaker 2: the legend, I guess, put his hands on the under 1599 01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:33,360 Speaker 2: you Bank, I mentioned. The two promoters pushed each other, 1600 01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:36,639 Speaker 2: so that was you Bank half apology and then also 1601 01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:38,880 Speaker 2: being like I would have kicked your ass, and uh, 1602 01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:41,400 Speaker 2: I love Nagel Ben being like, mate, I'm old school, 1603 01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:42,960 Speaker 2: I can handle this. Let's go, let's go. 1604 01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:45,240 Speaker 3: Yes, all right, last, but not least look at this. 1605 01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:49,160 Speaker 3: They did another stare down later. Uh. With about eight 1606 01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:53,519 Speaker 3: million people in doing security, you're gonna hear commentators talk, 1607 01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:56,920 Speaker 3: but you'll be able to hear what Connor Ben and 1608 01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:59,120 Speaker 3: Chris you Bank say to each other. Dude, listen to 1609 01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:00,719 Speaker 3: how bad this blood as. 1610 01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:03,120 Speaker 2: You in the ring walk standing there on the picture reflexes, 1611 01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:05,559 Speaker 2: I think you were just enjoying. 1612 01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:09,639 Speaker 12: I'm trying to see that. Where is that being said? 1613 01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:21,320 Speaker 12: They but their arms. Influence of that arm. I've got 1614 01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:26,760 Speaker 12: my reflexes. You rolling your shot to bits Shire tolding 1615 01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:39,200 Speaker 12: the other day. Yeah, true, you're rolling, You're done, You're done. 1616 01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:44,920 Speaker 3: We will see okay, b C. I gotta tell you, 1617 01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:48,200 Speaker 3: I'm all fucking in on this fight. I can't believe 1618 01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:48,800 Speaker 3: I'm saying this. 1619 01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:49,160 Speaker 1: Dude. 1620 01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:51,840 Speaker 3: They got me, They absolutely got me. They got me. 1621 01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:54,479 Speaker 2: I fully agree with you, I was. This was not 1622 01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:56,800 Speaker 2: my fight to begin with. I don't I didn't think 1623 01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:59,160 Speaker 2: these guys should have been fighting. They're in separate weight classes, 1624 01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:01,519 Speaker 2: blah blah blah. I get the family history, I get 1625 01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:05,920 Speaker 2: nowt of the drug history. But you could easily make 1626 01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:08,280 Speaker 2: a like, you know, knee jerk. You tend to go okay, 1627 01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:10,640 Speaker 2: well you Bank's the bigger fighter, even though he's been 1628 01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:14,559 Speaker 2: completely mercurial the second half of his career. Is can 1629 01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:17,160 Speaker 2: can Connor Ben fill that gap? Well? He is more 1630 01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:20,400 Speaker 2: skilled than he's got balls. So now it's suddenly like, yeah, 1631 01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:22,799 Speaker 2: let's see what these two guys and separate way classes 1632 01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:25,360 Speaker 2: can do against one another when the hate is so 1633 01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:29,439 Speaker 2: strong between everybody involved. This is this is the boxing 1634 01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:31,120 Speaker 2: we fell in love with. I can't lie about that. 1635 01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:31,479 Speaker 2: It is. 1636 01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:34,240 Speaker 3: Why can't you know what, dude? We don't get enough 1637 01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:36,599 Speaker 3: of these in UFC anymore? Is Long Island? 1638 01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:36,760 Speaker 1: Luke? 1639 01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:39,000 Speaker 3: Is it my imagination. Like someone was asking me about 1640 01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:42,560 Speaker 3: this yesterday, Long Island, Luke. They were asking about like 1641 01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:44,600 Speaker 3: the UFC Headway division. You know, what would happen if 1642 01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:46,800 Speaker 3: John beats Tom? And you know, obviously that would be 1643 01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:48,400 Speaker 3: back because he'll win and then move on and then 1644 01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:51,080 Speaker 3: you're just left with this wreckage. But the reality is, 1645 01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:54,719 Speaker 3: even if like that doesn't happen, who is Tom's rival 1646 01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:56,960 Speaker 3: that's gonna get in his face and talk to him 1647 01:20:57,080 --> 01:20:59,760 Speaker 3: like that? Beyond John, like once John, John's got one 1648 01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:03,000 Speaker 3: more at best, right at best? No one seems to 1649 01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:07,840 Speaker 3: be doing this as much in UFC these days. It 1650 01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:10,439 Speaker 3: all seems very transactional. Am I missing something? 1651 01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:10,880 Speaker 2: No? 1652 01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:13,759 Speaker 5: I agree, rivalries are kind of dead in that sense. 1653 01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:17,000 Speaker 4: And like, dude, nothing got be more hype than DC 1654 01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:20,920 Speaker 4: Jones too, like exactly where there's some real beef going on. 1655 01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,080 Speaker 2: You know, run in Silva too. It's the same thing. 1656 01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:25,639 Speaker 2: I think I'm cutting you off here Long Island. Sorry, 1657 01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:31,120 Speaker 2: I just think that we've seen almost fake abrasiveness too 1658 01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:34,400 Speaker 2: often lately. I'm talking about Colby Covington, Sean Strickland, where 1659 01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:36,920 Speaker 2: it's you know, it's almost a shtick, it's almost an act. 1660 01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:40,120 Speaker 2: But this is a blood feud. We don't get that 1661 01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:42,840 Speaker 2: enough in this corporate era of UFC, which is crazy 1662 01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:46,479 Speaker 2: to say, because the corporate part of it doesn't muzzle them. 1663 01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:48,920 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Dana lets them say whatever. So 1664 01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:52,320 Speaker 2: we could very well have a crazy blood feud like this. 1665 01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:56,160 Speaker 2: Have we had one since Habib against the Connor. 1666 01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:02,360 Speaker 3: Pourrier, and Connor was also pretty ugly, but that was 1667 01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:05,880 Speaker 3: also you know, the second fight was weird, and then 1668 01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:07,759 Speaker 3: the third fight was even weirder. 1669 01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:11,720 Speaker 2: I mean outside of Cheyenne's listenmus against monster At when 1670 01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:13,479 Speaker 2: she said I'll follow you home, bitch. I mean I 1671 01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:14,840 Speaker 2: was down for that, okay, but. 1672 01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:16,920 Speaker 3: Like, okay, fair enough, but like also, like this is 1673 01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:19,200 Speaker 3: why the Diazs are who they are. People love them 1674 01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:21,280 Speaker 3: for many, many reasons, one of which is due they 1675 01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:24,040 Speaker 3: stir up shit, and there's something to be said for 1676 01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:27,680 Speaker 3: that in the end. And I just feel like I 1677 01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:29,840 Speaker 3: can't believe I'm saying this. To the point you raised, 1678 01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:31,640 Speaker 3: I'm not saying I need to see all of a 1679 01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:35,720 Speaker 3: sudden everyone chucking fucking monster energy, you know, cans at 1680 01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:38,720 Speaker 3: each other. It's not my point. But where are in 1681 01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:42,000 Speaker 3: mm A broadly, not just USC, but where are the 1682 01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:47,040 Speaker 3: big time rivalries that are being stoked, and the allegiances 1683 01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:50,720 Speaker 3: and the and the and the harsh you know contrast 1684 01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:52,800 Speaker 3: it's me or it's him, and I can't stand anything 1685 01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:54,560 Speaker 3: about them and this is why they're awful. No, this 1686 01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:57,679 Speaker 3: is why they're awful, and then doing press around that, like, dude, 1687 01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:00,960 Speaker 3: I would never ever care about Chris you Bank Junior 1688 01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:03,920 Speaker 3: taking on Connor Ben. It's for the UK generally, you know, 1689 01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:07,719 Speaker 3: I get it. They've done such a marvelous job promoting 1690 01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:10,479 Speaker 3: that that I can't fucking wait April twenty sixth to 1691 01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:11,680 Speaker 3: see that fucking fight. 1692 01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:13,920 Speaker 2: Look at these odds Long Island, Luke share with us 1693 01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:17,360 Speaker 2: the DraftKings odds minus one fifty for you Bank plus 1694 01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:21,040 Speaker 2: one fifteen for Ben. So it's crazy Siolistically, it's becoming 1695 01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:22,920 Speaker 2: a great fight based on where they're at in their 1696 01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:26,679 Speaker 2: careers as well. I think what you're really asking, Luke 1697 01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:28,880 Speaker 2: is where have all the cowboys gone? 1698 01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:29,160 Speaker 1: Right? 1699 01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:30,559 Speaker 2: Where are my gauchos at? 1700 01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:30,840 Speaker 11: Right? 1701 01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:34,400 Speaker 2: Dude? It I also have Harry armpits like that lady 1702 01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:38,280 Speaker 2: Ooh you get yeah, I won't keep seeing because last. 1703 01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:40,479 Speaker 3: But not least BC we can just touch on this 1704 01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:44,960 Speaker 3: very quickly. Topic number five Henry Shudo released a video 1705 01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:50,240 Speaker 3: this week where he's having a conversation with referee Jason Herzog, 1706 01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:54,000 Speaker 3: and in the video, Herzog acknowledges that he made an 1707 01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:57,760 Speaker 3: error in not taking a point at UFC Seattle from 1708 01:23:57,920 --> 01:23:59,680 Speaker 3: song you Don't. I have a question about it for 1709 01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:01,880 Speaker 3: you BC, But first let's take a look at the video. 1710 01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:03,240 Speaker 1: Oh what's sub Jason? 1711 01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:08,599 Speaker 2: Sorry, One you didn't take a point? And then two 1712 01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:10,519 Speaker 2: when I took the five minute, when I took the 1713 01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:12,880 Speaker 2: five minute break and we ended up coming back to 1714 01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:15,560 Speaker 2: actually five like I still want to recover, but that 1715 01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:19,080 Speaker 2: they still came here and you didn't do anything like 1716 01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:21,080 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Luckily I couldn't see because 1717 01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:21,479 Speaker 2: that or. 1718 01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:24,160 Speaker 4: At least I saw four four arms, but you never 1719 01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:26,599 Speaker 4: warned them or you never took a took away a point? 1720 01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:27,000 Speaker 5: Do you like? 1721 01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:31,240 Speaker 11: Oh, j my perspective in a moment. And then just 1722 01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:32,640 Speaker 11: so you hear and I want to try to say 1723 01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:35,080 Speaker 11: it's right or wrong. You have heard you now and 1724 01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:38,840 Speaker 11: I completely agree, especially afterwards when he came with his 1725 01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:41,200 Speaker 11: fingers like this, Why didn't you then stop and to 1726 01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:42,200 Speaker 11: take a point immediately? 1727 01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:43,519 Speaker 4: And I think it as a very. 1728 01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:47,800 Speaker 11: Valid criticism and an adjustment that I probably should have made. 1729 01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:49,639 Speaker 2: I think, get your fair point. 1730 01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:52,040 Speaker 8: You say these rules in the bag, and I think 1731 01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:55,440 Speaker 8: that's what kind of bugs me is that you specifically 1732 01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:57,760 Speaker 8: did this and the whole thing, everything that everything that 1733 01:24:57,840 --> 01:24:58,720 Speaker 8: you said happened to me. 1734 01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:00,679 Speaker 1: And there's no point taken away. 1735 01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:04,320 Speaker 10: Man, I have a loss on my record, Jason because 1736 01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:05,400 Speaker 10: you didn't make the right call. 1737 01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:05,600 Speaker 2: Man. 1738 01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:07,120 Speaker 6: And then that bugs me a little bit. 1739 01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:10,719 Speaker 2: And what I watch again, I'm like, yeah, you should 1740 01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:12,439 Speaker 2: have probably taken a point there. 1741 01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:17,120 Speaker 3: BC. Does this give you more or less confidence about 1742 01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:18,479 Speaker 3: Jason Herzog's abilities? 1743 01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:22,120 Speaker 2: It gives me more that this will lead to positivity, 1744 01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:25,439 Speaker 2: a positive change in the thought process, if it doesn't 1745 01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:27,640 Speaker 2: lead to some form of a change in ruling on 1746 01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:32,240 Speaker 2: how this is handled and how referees are I mean 1747 01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:35,280 Speaker 2: arm themselves with the I mean I get the premise 1748 01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:39,760 Speaker 2: of why we've seen such passive refereeing. There must be 1749 01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:42,600 Speaker 2: some edict, you know, from above, on the idea of like, 1750 01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:44,840 Speaker 2: don't become part of the story, you know, because the 1751 01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:48,240 Speaker 2: worst thing that can happen is someone unnecessarily getting a 1752 01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:50,880 Speaker 2: point taken away that affects them, that affects their money, 1753 01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:53,479 Speaker 2: in the long run. But the opposite of being this 1754 01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:56,960 Speaker 2: liberal is horrible. So first off, damn, this video was 1755 01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:58,880 Speaker 2: cringe as shit, Like there's parts of it that were 1756 01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:01,559 Speaker 2: like really good and refreshing. But I saw some people 1757 01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:05,040 Speaker 2: accusing Henry of not letting Herzog know he was on camera. 1758 01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:07,080 Speaker 2: I'm sure they knew that this was for a podcast 1759 01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:09,120 Speaker 2: of some form and they're on camera, but you know, 1760 01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:12,280 Speaker 2: Henry going to near tears at the end was interesting. 1761 01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:17,320 Speaker 2: But this is the transparency, and we have a lot 1762 01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:21,840 Speaker 2: better transparency in MMA officiating compared to boxing, because you 1763 01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:24,640 Speaker 2: do see referees with Twitter accounts that come out there 1764 01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:27,000 Speaker 2: and respond. You do see guys once in a while 1765 01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:29,240 Speaker 2: show up on podcasts and talk about things, where in 1766 01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:31,960 Speaker 2: boxing it's sort of like they're trained not to ever 1767 01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:36,879 Speaker 2: enter the media cycle unnecessarily. So I wonder if Herzog, 1768 01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:40,519 Speaker 2: being this open, humble right to take an l publicly 1769 01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:43,080 Speaker 2: like this and be like, I think you're right this, Like, 1770 01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:47,439 Speaker 2: if this moment changes him and he's already considered by 1771 01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:49,840 Speaker 2: many to be the best referee in the UFC, or 1772 01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:52,840 Speaker 2: if not, you know, top three for sure. I wonder 1773 01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:55,360 Speaker 2: if this will lead to not only more conversations with 1774 01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:58,760 Speaker 2: commissions behind the scenes, but more people taking notice and 1775 01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:02,400 Speaker 2: saying it's almost worse to not take away a point, 1776 01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:05,320 Speaker 2: and then your name becomes the story than the risk 1777 01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:08,120 Speaker 2: of taking away point. They have to establish a baseline 1778 01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:11,240 Speaker 2: of you get one warning and then it's points for 1779 01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:14,040 Speaker 2: all the fouls. That's what it is, or some something 1780 01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:16,360 Speaker 2: better than what we're doing. So in that regard, Luke, 1781 01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:20,240 Speaker 2: everything about what this could mean is refreshing, even if 1782 01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:22,559 Speaker 2: it was cringe as f But that's our guy triple see, 1783 01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:24,519 Speaker 2: it's what he does. I mean, were you as shocked 1784 01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:26,840 Speaker 2: as me to see Herzog taking an l on a 1785 01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:29,559 Speaker 2: podcast a couple of days later. In boxing, we'd kill 1786 01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:32,240 Speaker 2: for that. We'd kill for a press conference where the 1787 01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:35,519 Speaker 2: commission leader or an official or a judge would have 1788 01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:39,160 Speaker 2: to answer questions and actually explain why they did something. 1789 01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:41,479 Speaker 2: And maybe it can lead to this where somebody goes, 1790 01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:43,840 Speaker 2: you know what, I made a mistake. He doesn't have 1791 01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:46,120 Speaker 2: to say I'm a change man, but this will change 1792 01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:47,040 Speaker 2: him moving forward. 1793 01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:47,880 Speaker 5: This is good. 1794 01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:50,080 Speaker 2: He had a deal with a little cringe to get there, 1795 01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:52,360 Speaker 2: and Bruno Silva went blind for us to get here. 1796 01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:55,639 Speaker 3: But hey, whatever, I was also gonna say, like I thought, 1797 01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:58,400 Speaker 3: you know, Henry was a little harsh to his face. 1798 01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:00,760 Speaker 3: I thought in this one, not not terribly. I didn't 1799 01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:02,240 Speaker 3: think it was completely out of line or anything. A 1800 01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:05,640 Speaker 3: little harsh, But I understand his point, like there's a 1801 01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:07,200 Speaker 3: loss that goes on that record. If you had taken 1802 01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:08,479 Speaker 3: a point, it would not have been that way. It 1803 01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:10,320 Speaker 3: would have been a majority draw and he'd be in 1804 01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:13,400 Speaker 3: a different position. And so you know, I can understand 1805 01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:15,479 Speaker 3: having some bitter feelings about it. But in general, like 1806 01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:17,040 Speaker 3: I asked you the question that did they make you 1807 01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:20,080 Speaker 3: more or less confident about his decision making going forward, 1808 01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:21,519 Speaker 3: I don't know how you could look at this and 1809 01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:23,519 Speaker 3: think it would do anything other than make your confidence 1810 01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:28,320 Speaker 3: go skyrocket. These guys are not going to bat a thousand. 1811 01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:31,040 Speaker 3: It's simply never going to happen. It's difficult. They have, 1812 01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:35,720 Speaker 3: you know, hardly any tools to review their decisions. Like 1813 01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:38,320 Speaker 3: I made this point before, Like if you watch American football, 1814 01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:40,320 Speaker 3: you know, not only do they have a chance to 1815 01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:42,280 Speaker 3: review things, and by certain points in the game, they 1816 01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:44,680 Speaker 3: have mandatory that they review certain things, but then they 1817 01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:48,240 Speaker 3: have to announce their decision on the microphone to their audience, 1818 01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:50,519 Speaker 3: Like that to the audience and attendance I guess at 1819 01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:52,320 Speaker 3: home too, Like they have to keep them abreast of 1820 01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:54,600 Speaker 3: their decisions, but they get a chance to review, they 1821 01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:57,160 Speaker 3: get a chance to reflect on it. Why because one, 1822 01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:00,160 Speaker 3: it's important to have a transparent, direct conversation of the 1823 01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:02,880 Speaker 3: audience about what decisions you're making and why you're making them, 1824 01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:04,360 Speaker 3: or at least of what the basis is of what 1825 01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:06,560 Speaker 3: you're making them. But more to the point, like, of 1826 01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:08,599 Speaker 3: course they're not going to get it right all the time. 1827 01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:11,240 Speaker 3: It's silly to think that even with technological tools, they're 1828 01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:12,519 Speaker 3: not going to get it right all the time. But 1829 01:29:13,240 --> 01:29:16,519 Speaker 3: it's a notion of refereeing that that not asks them 1830 01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:19,920 Speaker 3: to be like these perfect angels who who you know 1831 01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:23,560 Speaker 3: from the heavens come down and wield their judgment that 1832 01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:25,479 Speaker 3: is so much better than ours. No, they can have 1833 01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:28,400 Speaker 3: good judgment about it, they can have obviously understanding of 1834 01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:30,760 Speaker 3: protocol better than us. But they're humans like anybody else. 1835 01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:33,439 Speaker 3: They're going to make mistakes. Giving them a chance to 1836 01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:36,759 Speaker 3: correct that, either in the rules or in the application 1837 01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:39,600 Speaker 3: is great. Now, that's not anything Henry Suhuto has been 1838 01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:42,439 Speaker 3: afforded in this situation. But this is the next best thing. 1839 01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:46,200 Speaker 3: And I understand that's probably, you know, a bitter pill 1840 01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:48,080 Speaker 3: to swallow for Henry, because it doesn't mean much in 1841 01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:49,679 Speaker 3: the end in terms of what goes on your record. 1842 01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:52,439 Speaker 3: But a referee willing to come on talk with you 1843 01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:56,040 Speaker 3: about the bout to an extent, be berated, and then 1844 01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:59,200 Speaker 3: explain where the he agrees where the error took place, 1845 01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:01,519 Speaker 3: as kind of like an indication of what went wrong, 1846 01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:03,559 Speaker 3: and then what not to do in the future. Dude, 1847 01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:06,360 Speaker 3: what more can you ask of a referee? I wish 1848 01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:09,200 Speaker 3: there were better rules in place that they had to 1849 01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:11,559 Speaker 3: talk to the media or some kind of rep had 1850 01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:13,559 Speaker 3: to talk to the media after fights are over, if 1851 01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:17,240 Speaker 3: there was a more open relationship PC with various commissions 1852 01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:20,400 Speaker 3: between any kind of media association or media outlets and 1853 01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:23,479 Speaker 3: the athletic commissions themselves, by the way, either four Boxing 1854 01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:26,080 Speaker 3: or MMA, since it's the same commission in Nevada doing 1855 01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:28,760 Speaker 3: all of this essentially. But if you can't get that, 1856 01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:32,280 Speaker 3: this guy took ownership of his own regard. He faced 1857 01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:37,120 Speaker 3: the firing squad by choice, by choice, he decided to 1858 01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:41,280 Speaker 3: do that. That speaks an enormous amount to his integrity, 1859 01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:44,560 Speaker 3: to his desire to get the job done right, to 1860 01:30:44,720 --> 01:30:48,000 Speaker 3: his own humility to examine what went wrong in his 1861 01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:51,479 Speaker 3: own decision making process, and then, to the best extent possible, 1862 01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:55,080 Speaker 3: steal himself for the future. I fucking love this from 1863 01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:57,920 Speaker 3: Jason Herzog. We said on Monday, did we not be seen? 1864 01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:01,439 Speaker 3: We said he's a great referee, It's just a tough job. 1865 01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:03,439 Speaker 3: You're not always going to get it right. Sure enough, 1866 01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:08,400 Speaker 3: I feel vindicated to a degree in professing my appreciation 1867 01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:11,080 Speaker 3: for his skills by virtue of how this has all 1868 01:31:11,160 --> 01:31:12,160 Speaker 3: gone down after the fact. 1869 01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:14,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, outside of that time he broke my former colleague 1870 01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:17,640 Speaker 2: of rash Marcazi's ribs and that referee Seminar, I've got 1871 01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:23,280 Speaker 2: nothing bad to say about Jason Herzog at all. And Luke. Yeah, 1872 01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:25,000 Speaker 2: I forgot. It was gonna be a good remark. It 1873 01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:26,679 Speaker 2: was probably gonna be the best moment of the show. 1874 01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:27,360 Speaker 5: But I forgot. 1875 01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:27,840 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. 1876 01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:31,080 Speaker 3: Why did he break your friend's ribs? 1877 01:31:31,840 --> 01:31:31,960 Speaker 5: Oh? 1878 01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:34,439 Speaker 2: I think Arash was there to write a story about refereeing, 1879 01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:36,599 Speaker 2: and he like took a rash down and like they 1880 01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:37,960 Speaker 2: were doing demonstrations, and. 1881 01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:41,840 Speaker 3: Arash is not the most in shape guy I've ever seen. 1882 01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:45,120 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, let's move on. Please, that's my friend you're talking. 1883 01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:47,679 Speaker 3: About, Okay, I mean, I'm not you know, I didn't 1884 01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:51,080 Speaker 3: think he was like the most physically fitshal Luke. 1885 01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:55,640 Speaker 2: I said, I need a warning on all fouls. But 1886 01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:58,439 Speaker 2: I think ipokes are getting so egregious in what they 1887 01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:00,680 Speaker 2: how they changed about, especially going back to the old 1888 01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:03,920 Speaker 2: gloves now that I'm actually not against. If they put 1889 01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:06,599 Speaker 2: a flat out rule that if you penetrate the eye, 1890 01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:09,920 Speaker 2: you get a point. Wouldn't that change everyone who fights 1891 01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:11,400 Speaker 2: like this? Wouldn't that force. 1892 01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:11,800 Speaker 4: Them to do so? 1893 01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:13,680 Speaker 3: So it's kind of funny. We didn't put it in 1894 01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:15,519 Speaker 3: the rundown, but Jim Miller put out a video and 1895 01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:18,400 Speaker 3: he put a glove on the old glove obviously, and 1896 01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:20,479 Speaker 3: he said, you know, how can I poke you in 1897 01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:23,360 Speaker 3: the eye like this? Yes, like you can't. The hand 1898 01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:27,799 Speaker 3: has to be closed. And he argued that the hand opens, 1899 01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:29,439 Speaker 3: and by the way, I also can't poke you in 1900 01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:32,400 Speaker 3: the eye like this. It can only be like this, right, 1901 01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:38,040 Speaker 3: And he argued this typically not always obviously, but typically 1902 01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:43,320 Speaker 3: more commonly than not happens on defensive retreating actions. And 1903 01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:48,000 Speaker 3: what he says is that should be essentially penalized out 1904 01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:52,240 Speaker 3: of the sport where if you are His argument goes 1905 01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:57,120 Speaker 3: that if you sufficiently penalize that on these defensive retreats 1906 01:32:57,200 --> 01:33:00,200 Speaker 3: or whatever people are trying to do that it will 1907 01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:02,640 Speaker 3: make them over time when they get penalized for it, 1908 01:33:02,720 --> 01:33:04,720 Speaker 3: it will make them, over time much more likely to 1909 01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:07,679 Speaker 3: not do it in the future, and obviously a reward 1910 01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:10,080 Speaker 3: to some degree anyway the person getting poked, it would 1911 01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:13,120 Speaker 3: help them in situations like this and then many other cases. 1912 01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:15,559 Speaker 3: And I don't really disagree with that, but I don't 1913 01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:19,160 Speaker 3: understand how that can't be used in conjunction. And I 1914 01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:21,839 Speaker 3: know this is an old conversation we've had a million times, 1915 01:33:22,479 --> 01:33:24,360 Speaker 3: but I just can't believe that they're retreating to the 1916 01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:26,360 Speaker 3: old gloves and being like, all right, well, we're just 1917 01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:29,639 Speaker 3: we're just not going to do anything about the ipoke problem. 1918 01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:34,120 Speaker 3: Getting the let me say this PC, getting the rules changed, 1919 01:33:34,600 --> 01:33:37,960 Speaker 3: I support, but one thing that you have to keep 1920 01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:42,360 Speaker 3: in mind, and I've seen it a gazillion times, when 1921 01:33:42,479 --> 01:33:46,320 Speaker 3: you change the rules, sometimes there is a bit of 1922 01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:49,559 Speaker 3: a Pandora's box that opens, and it ends up creating 1923 01:33:49,640 --> 01:33:53,280 Speaker 3: situations that you didn't necessarily expect that can be hard 1924 01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:57,400 Speaker 3: to undo. In the language of new rules themselves. To me, 1925 01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:02,960 Speaker 3: I support penal this, but I also think we can 1926 01:34:03,160 --> 01:34:08,439 Speaker 3: compliment that policy with technology that rounds the fingers so 1927 01:34:08,560 --> 01:34:10,920 Speaker 3: that you get a you know, a double whammy kind 1928 01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:14,040 Speaker 3: of approach to this, rather than just trying to legislate 1929 01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:17,760 Speaker 3: out the issue, which I think can be effective. But 1930 01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:20,400 Speaker 3: all of those things carry inherent risk. 1931 01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:24,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, you scare people, you can scare 1932 01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:26,520 Speaker 2: it out of the sport. I mean it was controversial, 1933 01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:29,040 Speaker 2: but look at that Singapore caning in the late eighties, Luke, 1934 01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:32,200 Speaker 2: with that American kid, every American knew from then on out, 1935 01:34:32,439 --> 01:34:35,839 Speaker 2: don't go there, Okay, don't do graffiti on the streets 1936 01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:36,560 Speaker 2: of Singapore. 1937 01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:39,320 Speaker 3: Michaelid's name, Michael Fay was that his name? 1938 01:34:39,400 --> 01:34:42,840 Speaker 2: Great Paul, that is the guy's name, speaking of that 1939 01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:45,880 Speaker 2: area of the world, Luke, quickly, if you allow me, 1940 01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:48,479 Speaker 2: I just wanted to say, how about that news from 1941 01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:52,640 Speaker 2: one championship only this card won't take place in Singapore. 1942 01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:56,920 Speaker 2: August first, in Denver one one seventy three, the return 1943 01:34:57,320 --> 01:35:00,400 Speaker 2: of the most electrifying force in mixed martial arts today, 1944 01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:07,120 Speaker 2: Stamp Fairtex Luke unification against Denise Zamboanga. Let's go, are 1945 01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:08,960 Speaker 2: you down for it. Tell me about it. 1946 01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:11,640 Speaker 3: I'm down for I love I'm telling you we we 1947 01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:14,920 Speaker 3: kill one at times. I love their rule set, I 1948 01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:17,080 Speaker 3: love that Colorado gives them space. 1949 01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:17,240 Speaker 9: To do that. 1950 01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:20,760 Speaker 3: I'm all for it. MMA needs more of what they're doing, 1951 01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:23,920 Speaker 3: not less. So I'm happy to see them back. August first, 1952 01:35:23,960 --> 01:35:24,360 Speaker 3: one hundred. 1953 01:35:24,360 --> 01:35:26,760 Speaker 2: All right, maybe we'll get Shatrian Studio. What do you think? 1954 01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:30,160 Speaker 3: Not that motherfucker won't talk to me, you know, under 1955 01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:32,280 Speaker 3: any circumstance. But but you know what, they are good 1956 01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:34,559 Speaker 3: people that work there, and as I said, I'm happy 1957 01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:37,760 Speaker 3: to see that. I'm happy. I truly mean this. I 1958 01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:40,439 Speaker 3: am delighted to see one back in Colorado, and I 1959 01:35:40,520 --> 01:35:43,679 Speaker 3: hope that show, for MMA's sake, certainly there's as well, 1960 01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:48,559 Speaker 3: is a big success. I absolutely support that. Uh okay, 1961 01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:50,960 Speaker 3: that's our top five topics. We see we were not 1962 01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:53,400 Speaker 3: going to do fan subs, I don't think today. 1963 01:35:53,240 --> 01:35:56,200 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, So we we talked to Mikey, who is 1964 01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:59,760 Speaker 2: at the other end of that glory whole path known 1965 01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:03,160 Speaker 2: as Morning Combat at gmail dot com. Meaning that's how 1966 01:36:03,240 --> 01:36:06,439 Speaker 2: you contact the show. And let's not forget our rules. 1967 01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:09,719 Speaker 2: You show Mikey a picture of your package, your band. Okay, 1968 01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:12,559 Speaker 2: that's what we know. He said there wasn't enough good 1969 01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:15,519 Speaker 2: ones this week that we have to punt towards next week. 1970 01:36:15,560 --> 01:36:20,880 Speaker 2: So I think this is Mikey challenging our audience to 1971 01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:25,320 Speaker 2: come original with their pants on at Morningcombat at gmail 1972 01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:25,760 Speaker 2: dot com. 1973 01:36:25,960 --> 01:36:28,080 Speaker 3: Okay, by the way, speaking of bands, you know who 1974 01:36:28,120 --> 01:36:30,160 Speaker 3: I'm going to see? I think that April twenty sixth 1975 01:36:30,520 --> 01:36:32,320 Speaker 3: is the day. I'm gona have to double check it's 1976 01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:35,880 Speaker 3: right around then. They're gonna come to They're coming to well, 1977 01:36:36,080 --> 01:36:39,719 Speaker 3: just outside DC. They're gonna come to DC. Cannibal Corpse. Baby. 1978 01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:41,120 Speaker 2: I thought you were going to say three eleven. 1979 01:36:41,200 --> 01:36:43,640 Speaker 3: I was like, reality, dude, They're gonna play at the Uh, 1980 01:36:43,680 --> 01:36:47,479 Speaker 3: They're gonna play at the MGM, the MGM National Harbor, 1981 01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:50,400 Speaker 3: that new facility, well, newish facility off just out the 1982 01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:50,960 Speaker 3: side of the city. 1983 01:36:51,400 --> 01:36:52,080 Speaker 11: You do that. 1984 01:36:52,360 --> 01:36:55,080 Speaker 3: I hate to say it, but that is where well, 1985 01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:57,519 Speaker 3: first of all, I didn't realize this USIK fought there 1986 01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:01,640 Speaker 3: like twenty seventeen, Michael Honor, that's right. 1987 01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:02,120 Speaker 1: Uh. 1988 01:37:02,280 --> 01:37:04,479 Speaker 3: Sadly, that is also the place I hate to say this, 1989 01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:06,200 Speaker 3: but it is true. That is the place that Maxim 1990 01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:10,920 Speaker 3: Dadashev ultimately died, so there is you know, obviously some 1991 01:37:11,240 --> 01:37:13,080 Speaker 3: uh you know, there's been some mixed events there. But 1992 01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:15,200 Speaker 3: in any case, like for a concert venue, anyway, I'm 1993 01:37:15,200 --> 01:37:18,160 Speaker 3: supposed to I'm supposed to meet up with the band afterwards. 1994 01:37:18,200 --> 01:37:19,200 Speaker 3: So we'll see how this goes. 1995 01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:21,280 Speaker 2: Dude, you gotta put you gotta take picks and we'll 1996 01:37:21,320 --> 01:37:21,920 Speaker 2: run him on MK. 1997 01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:23,680 Speaker 3: That's great, yah, yeah yeah, So like I hit up. 1998 01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:27,160 Speaker 3: I'm I've kind of developed an online friendship with one 1999 01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:29,680 Speaker 3: of the band members, and I've been in touch with 2000 01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:31,040 Speaker 3: him in the last week and he was like, he 2001 01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:33,320 Speaker 3: set it up. He's like, let's meet at the at 2002 01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:34,240 Speaker 3: the Ox and Hill show. 2003 01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:36,200 Speaker 2: So I'd like to find out, if you can whether 2004 01:37:36,280 --> 01:37:40,120 Speaker 2: George Corpsegrinder stands or sits when he wipes. I don't 2005 01:37:40,120 --> 01:37:42,400 Speaker 2: think they're going to be offended by this line of questioning. 2006 01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:43,080 Speaker 2: I really don't. 2007 01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:45,360 Speaker 3: I doubt it. It might be in their wheelhouse too. 2008 01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:47,559 Speaker 3: I guess we'll have to see. But by the way, 2009 01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:49,960 Speaker 3: the guy I'm friends within the band or you know, 2010 01:37:50,120 --> 01:37:54,280 Speaker 3: online acquaintances whatever, big boxing fan, Big Boxing. 2011 01:37:54,120 --> 01:37:56,559 Speaker 2: Nice, nice and shout out to friend of the program. 2012 01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:59,280 Speaker 2: O'teil Berberg. You know how they were doing dead and Company, Luke, 2013 01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:02,360 Speaker 2: which was like a super group of old members, the 2014 01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:04,800 Speaker 2: Grateful Dead and new members. They're doing the same thing 2015 01:38:04,880 --> 01:38:07,479 Speaker 2: now with the Allman Brothers. The brothers are on tour, 2016 01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:13,320 Speaker 2: so it's like Warren Haynes, Derek Trucks, Jmo, the original drummer, Otila. 2017 01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:14,679 Speaker 3: Down down to They're doing. 2018 01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:16,439 Speaker 2: Back to back nights in the garden coming up too, 2019 01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:18,280 Speaker 2: So shout out to our guy Otel. 2020 01:38:18,760 --> 01:38:23,519 Speaker 3: I got one more silver dollar down that song. That 2021 01:38:23,680 --> 01:38:27,519 Speaker 3: song bangs. Don't think it doesn't. With that in mind, though, 2022 01:38:27,960 --> 01:38:29,599 Speaker 3: we make a bunch of heirs, we say a bunch 2023 01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:31,800 Speaker 3: of stupid stuff. You'all hold us to account. It's time 2024 01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:40,479 Speaker 3: for dead wrong then wrong, just coming after me left 2025 01:38:40,520 --> 01:38:42,400 Speaker 3: and right these days. This is from Daz. Back up 2026 01:38:42,479 --> 01:38:44,519 Speaker 3: on that ass and give these motherfuckers a blast from 2027 01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:47,479 Speaker 3: the past. Aloha, donks. This is either a dead wrong 2028 01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:49,320 Speaker 3: or Luke was unclear about what he meant when he 2029 01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:52,840 Speaker 3: said the statement. Okay, let's see on Friday's episode, which 2030 01:38:52,840 --> 01:38:55,720 Speaker 3: will be two twenty one, twenty five, so a week ago. Luke, 2031 01:38:55,760 --> 01:38:58,920 Speaker 3: and comparing Connor's and Ilia's moves to fifty five, states 2032 01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:01,960 Speaker 3: that Connor quote one at forty five and then moved 2033 01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:03,680 Speaker 3: up and then that was it. He never went back 2034 01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:06,240 Speaker 3: and defended, which is true. But then he added a 2035 01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:08,920 Speaker 3: throwaway line talking about me quote although Max was a 2036 01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:13,639 Speaker 3: title defense, yes, Max was a title defense to Ilia, Luke, 2037 01:39:13,960 --> 01:39:16,759 Speaker 3: If you were inferring that Connor beat Max after winning 2038 01:39:16,880 --> 01:39:18,840 Speaker 3: the title, this would be incorrect. That's not what I'm 2039 01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:20,880 Speaker 3: implying at all. I just mean that when Ilia fought 2040 01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:25,280 Speaker 3: him that he wasn't winning another title. He was defending 2041 01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:28,439 Speaker 3: it against Max, as they fought in twenty thirteen, yes, 2042 01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:31,640 Speaker 3: before Max or Connor became one forty five champs. Not 2043 01:39:31,720 --> 01:39:34,080 Speaker 3: sure about what Luke meant by Max being a title 2044 01:39:34,120 --> 01:39:36,800 Speaker 3: defense for Connor, no title defense for Ilia. That seemed 2045 01:39:36,840 --> 01:39:38,960 Speaker 3: an odd mistake for such a long time follower of Holloway. 2046 01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:41,360 Speaker 3: That's why I didn't make it. Was she held in 2047 01:39:41,400 --> 01:39:43,439 Speaker 3: a speedy recovery for Reggie Jackson. By the way, we 2048 01:39:43,479 --> 01:39:44,920 Speaker 3: got to get it up there. Hold on, Sorry I 2049 01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:47,080 Speaker 3: missed last week on Dead Wrong. Didn't find anything egreedious 2050 01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:49,200 Speaker 3: last week. Thanks for all the content, Mahaalo Das, what's 2051 01:39:49,240 --> 01:39:50,200 Speaker 3: the story on reg? 2052 01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:52,479 Speaker 2: That was a little pedanic of Daz, wouldn't you say? 2053 01:39:52,479 --> 01:39:52,639 Speaker 5: Though? 2054 01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:57,360 Speaker 3: Overall it was unclear, but so I kind of get it, 2055 01:39:57,439 --> 01:39:58,040 Speaker 3: but no I didn't. 2056 01:39:58,280 --> 01:40:00,960 Speaker 2: I'm still willing to promote that fight with with Telvin 2057 01:40:01,040 --> 01:40:02,760 Speaker 2: Ki Papa at the love of it back or right 2058 01:40:02,840 --> 01:40:07,160 Speaker 2: now that Governor Penn has accused GSP of steroids, all 2059 01:40:07,400 --> 01:40:09,920 Speaker 2: all good, Let's talk about Reggie Jackson. Thank you everybody 2060 01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:12,240 Speaker 2: for like it's been a ridiculous amount of people showing 2061 01:40:12,360 --> 01:40:14,920 Speaker 2: love for I know they showed the same for Barbois 2062 01:40:14,920 --> 01:40:18,680 Speaker 2: and Reggie j He's home from surgery and he's he's 2063 01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:21,160 Speaker 2: on the road back to recovery and it's so great 2064 01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:24,240 Speaker 2: to see still has a minor respiratory thing, but it's 2065 01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:26,559 Speaker 2: not the deep pneumonia. It was that that I thought 2066 01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:30,560 Speaker 2: almost almost took us in some dark places. But the 2067 01:40:30,760 --> 01:40:33,080 Speaker 2: vet when we picked him up from surgery, he had 2068 01:40:33,120 --> 01:40:35,880 Speaker 2: the four teeth removed, including the two big canines there. 2069 01:40:36,320 --> 01:40:40,599 Speaker 2: They basically said, they're like, although he's a happy drunk, 2070 01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:44,920 Speaker 2: he's both the craziest cat we've ever dealt with pre 2071 01:40:45,080 --> 01:40:47,320 Speaker 2: surgery because it took him three hours to pin him 2072 01:40:47,320 --> 01:40:49,400 Speaker 2: down to get the X ray in a lot of drugs. 2073 01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:52,639 Speaker 2: They said, he's by far the craziest post surgery they've 2074 01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:55,320 Speaker 2: ever been around and Luke. It was my job Wednesday 2075 01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:58,920 Speaker 2: night in my office in the basement to sequester Reggie 2076 01:40:58,920 --> 01:41:01,400 Speaker 2: away from the other animal and sleep overnight with him. 2077 01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:03,680 Speaker 2: I didn't get a wink of sleep. That guy on 2078 01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:09,400 Speaker 2: narcotics is a maniac, but he's healthy. He's back. His 2079 01:41:09,560 --> 01:41:12,360 Speaker 2: tongue fits in his mouth now it closes again, and 2080 01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:15,240 Speaker 2: he's back to just being a regular asshole rather than 2081 01:41:15,280 --> 01:41:17,840 Speaker 2: one on narcotics. So shout out to reggij thank you 2082 01:41:17,960 --> 01:41:21,120 Speaker 2: to everybody out there. He doesn't care about any of you, 2083 01:41:21,240 --> 01:41:24,000 Speaker 2: but I do, so thank you very much. That's that's 2084 01:41:24,080 --> 01:41:25,400 Speaker 2: my dude. Okay, that's my guy. 2085 01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:28,720 Speaker 3: All right, thanks very good. Glad to hear. And there's 2086 01:41:28,760 --> 01:41:32,719 Speaker 3: one more again for me from sid rival. He says, 2087 01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:34,479 Speaker 3: just want to shoot Luke a dead wrong for his 2088 01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:37,320 Speaker 3: faith and topology. They and I think there's the photo 2089 01:41:37,360 --> 01:41:39,160 Speaker 3: associated with if you want to put that up as well. 2090 01:41:40,280 --> 01:41:43,519 Speaker 3: There it is. What he says is quote. They have 2091 01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:46,200 Speaker 3: me listed at five ten, but I'm five to eight 2092 01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:48,960 Speaker 3: on a good day. Lol. This is mostly in Jess, 2093 01:41:49,000 --> 01:41:50,280 Speaker 3: but I found it funny and wanted to share a 2094 01:41:50,280 --> 01:41:52,360 Speaker 3: shout out to BC. I deleted the Graham, but he 2095 01:41:52,479 --> 01:41:54,519 Speaker 3: followed me when I had it at sid Rival been 2096 01:41:54,520 --> 01:41:57,120 Speaker 3: following Lucent's before he was washed. Love you, guys and 2097 01:41:57,160 --> 01:41:59,240 Speaker 3: all the content you bring cheers from the loyal donk. 2098 01:41:59,400 --> 01:42:01,639 Speaker 3: There you go, hey, listen, they're not perfect. My only 2099 01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:04,760 Speaker 3: point is also on his own Instagram page, he lists 2100 01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:06,840 Speaker 3: himself twenty eight So all right. 2101 01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:10,360 Speaker 2: You ever see Sid Rival, Luke? He's got some killer tats. 2102 01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:11,400 Speaker 2: He plays the guitar. 2103 01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:15,559 Speaker 3: It sounds so familiar, but I can't pull it from 2104 01:42:15,800 --> 01:42:17,920 Speaker 3: How can I pull Michael Faye from the memory bank? 2105 01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:19,840 Speaker 3: And I can't pull somebody who watches the show from 2106 01:42:19,880 --> 01:42:22,439 Speaker 3: the memory bank. I don't know, but the name is 2107 01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:23,479 Speaker 3: so goddamn familiar. 2108 01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:26,559 Speaker 2: I'm happy that sid Rival got that Rogan bump if 2109 01:42:26,560 --> 01:42:28,519 Speaker 2: you know what I'm talking about. You know what I mean? Luke? 2110 01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:32,040 Speaker 2: Did he on the height there on this topology page? 2111 01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:32,200 Speaker 1: Oh? 2112 01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:39,960 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you? Oh that's an awesome one. That's 2113 01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:42,360 Speaker 3: the show today, Long Island, Luke, why don't you plug 2114 01:42:42,520 --> 01:42:44,439 Speaker 3: being a bad boyfriend again for this weekend? 2115 01:42:44,680 --> 01:42:45,519 Speaker 5: She's on vacation. 2116 01:42:45,680 --> 01:42:48,439 Speaker 4: I already mentioned that, guys. Full card watch along main 2117 01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:50,880 Speaker 4: card minute four pm in the East. We'll do the 2118 01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:54,479 Speaker 4: entire UFC card into the PBC card joining BC on 2119 01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:56,200 Speaker 4: that one looking forward. 2120 01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:57,880 Speaker 3: To now the main card minut it's U N Gaff 2121 01:42:58,000 --> 01:43:00,840 Speaker 3: right correct? What is Gaff doing with his life these days? 2122 01:43:01,720 --> 01:43:03,880 Speaker 5: He's working the PBC fight events this week. 2123 01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:06,000 Speaker 4: So Gaff was on the press conference, the meeting with 2124 01:43:06,160 --> 01:43:07,639 Speaker 4: each he'll be doing the way in today. 2125 01:43:07,720 --> 01:43:09,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, them both, they're they're live right now. I think 2126 01:43:09,680 --> 01:43:10,400 Speaker 5: with the way are. 2127 01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:11,800 Speaker 3: They doing that? Is that an all the smoke thing? 2128 01:43:11,840 --> 01:43:12,120 Speaker 5: Who's that? 2129 01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:13,439 Speaker 3: Who's the production company there? 2130 01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:13,960 Speaker 2: All the smoke? 2131 01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:14,280 Speaker 5: Yeah? 2132 01:43:14,960 --> 01:43:15,960 Speaker 3: Okay, did you know that? 2133 01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:18,160 Speaker 2: Gaff also has his own podcast? What's it called? 2134 01:43:19,960 --> 01:43:20,200 Speaker 5: Sorry? 2135 01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:22,080 Speaker 4: I made it for a second. One more round Fights 2136 01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:24,280 Speaker 4: go follow Gaff One more Gaf. 2137 01:43:24,439 --> 01:43:26,080 Speaker 2: Just the same. Hey, look, you know how like if 2138 01:43:26,120 --> 01:43:28,320 Speaker 2: a plane goes down, and boy, they're going down every 2139 01:43:28,360 --> 01:43:31,959 Speaker 2: day lately, they'll have like an an an old airline 2140 01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:34,880 Speaker 2: expert on the Today Show or something. Do you think 2141 01:43:35,040 --> 01:43:38,599 Speaker 2: that we should get Dave Sandine loyal MK viewer into 2142 01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:42,360 Speaker 2: the role of whenever there's questions about paying for sex, 2143 01:43:42,520 --> 01:43:46,040 Speaker 2: We'll bring that guy on as an ex military expert. 2144 01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:50,080 Speaker 3: In Oh, yeah, we could do that. 2145 01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:52,600 Speaker 2: We could do that also, Luke. Last night in the 2146 01:43:52,640 --> 01:43:56,840 Speaker 2: hotel room here I watched the Gabby Patito American murder 2147 01:43:56,960 --> 01:43:59,960 Speaker 2: series on Netflix, and I got a lot of questions 2148 01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:02,920 Speaker 2: for mister and missus Bryan, laundry for his parents. I 2149 01:44:02,960 --> 01:44:03,920 Speaker 2: got a lot of questions. 2150 01:44:04,240 --> 01:44:06,000 Speaker 3: This is the one I saw the trailer. Correct me 2151 01:44:06,000 --> 01:44:08,080 Speaker 3: if I'm wrong. They start out talking in a van, 2152 01:44:08,720 --> 01:44:09,920 Speaker 3: like they round by the river. 2153 01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:10,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no, But. 2154 01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:13,040 Speaker 3: Seriously, weren't they in like some kind It's like two 2155 01:44:13,160 --> 01:44:15,519 Speaker 3: young influencers in a van. Isn't that right? 2156 01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:19,000 Speaker 2: That is it? That's the story. Obviously it got played 2157 01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:22,400 Speaker 2: up to such a high level. People thought because she's young, 2158 01:44:22,520 --> 01:44:25,560 Speaker 2: blonde and white, Luke, But it was a very it 2159 01:44:25,720 --> 01:44:28,439 Speaker 2: was a very interesting story that they've played out because 2160 01:44:28,439 --> 01:44:30,600 Speaker 2: you know, they got the access to all of the 2161 01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:34,679 Speaker 2: police camera videos, so like when the police first knocked 2162 01:44:34,680 --> 01:44:36,760 Speaker 2: on his parents door of the house, like when they 2163 01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:39,360 Speaker 2: pulled the couple over. So it's you get like, I've 2164 01:44:39,400 --> 01:44:42,360 Speaker 2: never had this much access to a murder trial before, 2165 01:44:42,400 --> 01:44:44,280 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like to like a murder story. 2166 01:44:44,720 --> 01:44:50,120 Speaker 2: But Luke, these parents, wow, wow, all right, horrible people. No, 2167 01:44:50,439 --> 01:44:53,120 Speaker 2: they just were willing to do anything to protect their son. 2168 01:44:53,439 --> 01:44:56,600 Speaker 3: Oh okay, sorry, misunderstood. I'm supposed to watch Grave of 2169 01:44:56,680 --> 01:44:58,519 Speaker 3: the Fireflies, which is supposed to be one of the 2170 01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:02,479 Speaker 3: great movies of Japanese animation that people have tasked me with. 2171 01:45:02,760 --> 01:45:04,920 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna give that a look. This weekend, BC 2172 01:45:05,080 --> 01:45:07,639 Speaker 3: will be on the Oh we gotta break the newt. 2173 01:45:09,439 --> 01:45:11,280 Speaker 5: It just really important. 2174 01:45:11,600 --> 01:45:14,200 Speaker 4: Lucas Al made a missed weight for his bout with 2175 01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:16,320 Speaker 4: Danny Silva coming in at one forty eight. 2176 01:45:16,400 --> 01:45:18,160 Speaker 5: They will proceed as a Catchwait. 2177 01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:22,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody gives a fuck, all right. I mean that's 2178 01:45:22,640 --> 01:45:24,439 Speaker 3: not against Luke a Longland Luke. I'm just saying, like, 2179 01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:29,439 Speaker 3: you know, okay, BC on the call tomorrow, I guess 2180 01:45:29,479 --> 01:45:31,320 Speaker 3: for the prelims as well as the main card. And 2181 01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:33,200 Speaker 3: you're doing postfi interviews as well. 2182 01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:34,479 Speaker 2: Yes, that's a fact. 2183 01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:37,800 Speaker 3: Well, they got you, they got I mean, I'm happy 2184 01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:40,840 Speaker 3: for you, because I'm happy assignment. You can't complain. But 2185 01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:44,080 Speaker 3: like you're you're doing, you're doing a lot of good 2186 01:45:44,120 --> 01:45:45,320 Speaker 3: for them, I'll put it that way. You're doing a 2187 01:45:45,360 --> 01:45:48,639 Speaker 3: lot of good shit, thank you. So here is that, Okay, 2188 01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:51,519 Speaker 3: And then Monday we should tell the audience. Monday we 2189 01:45:51,600 --> 01:45:56,080 Speaker 3: will be not in studio, but the following Friday we 2190 01:45:56,360 --> 01:45:58,719 Speaker 3: will be in studio because we're going to be getting 2191 01:45:58,760 --> 01:46:01,000 Speaker 3: ready for UFC three third Team. We're gonna be doing. 2192 01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:02,679 Speaker 3: Tell them what it is, BC. 2193 01:46:03,680 --> 01:46:06,840 Speaker 2: How about pregame preview brought to you by Quervo UFC 2194 01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:10,599 Speaker 2: three one three, Chuck Mindenhall, the man in the hat. 2195 01:46:10,680 --> 01:46:13,040 Speaker 2: Did you know, by the way, Chuck's going to the 2196 01:46:13,400 --> 01:46:15,040 Speaker 2: to the tank fight on Saturday as a fan? 2197 01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:16,760 Speaker 3: Oh? Nice? Even better? 2198 01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:19,080 Speaker 2: Son, I'm like, yeah, that's like, that's awesome. 2199 01:46:19,120 --> 01:46:20,800 Speaker 3: You know, I saw the tank fight and I've seen 2200 01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:23,920 Speaker 3: a couple of tank fights in person. They're fucking fun, 2201 01:46:24,200 --> 01:46:25,479 Speaker 3: like they're they're a good time. 2202 01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:28,200 Speaker 2: So especially in Brooklyn, Dude, that atmosphere is awesome. 2203 01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:31,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. Lots of weeds smoking that arena. Lots of weed 2204 01:46:31,400 --> 01:46:33,519 Speaker 3: smoking that arena. Okay, we got to get out of 2205 01:46:33,520 --> 01:46:36,720 Speaker 3: here for Brian Campbell, for Bong Island, Luke and the 2206 01:46:36,760 --> 01:46:40,479 Speaker 3: whole main card, Minute Group and everybody else. That's BC IMLT. 2207 01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:43,519 Speaker 3: Follow us here on all the socials, on YouTube and 2208 01:46:43,640 --> 01:46:46,479 Speaker 3: everything else. We'll see you guys on Monday. We'll react 2209 01:46:46,520 --> 01:46:48,760 Speaker 3: to all the fights from the weekend. Hit us up 2210 01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:52,400 Speaker 3: Morning Combat. Excuse me Morning Combat at gmail dot com. 2211 01:46:52,560 --> 01:46:55,160 Speaker 3: Email the show Dead Wrongs fan subs, the whole nine. 2212 01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:58,080 Speaker 3: That's where you go, we're out of here. Enjoy the weekend. 2213 01:46:58,200 --> 01:47:00,439 Speaker 3: We'll see you Monday, and until next time, May all 2214 01:47:00,479 --> 01:47:02,040 Speaker 3: of your gains be loyal.