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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 2: I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 2: We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship and

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Speaker 2: what it's like to be siblings.

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Speaker 3: We are a sibling, Railvalry, No, no, sibling.

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Speaker 2: You don't do that with your mouth.

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Speaker 4: Vely, that's good?

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Speaker 2: Why maybe I don't know have to tell you. That

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Speaker 2: was Oliver Hudson having a mini spat with his wife,

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Speaker 2: Aaron Hudson. She wants to make a coffee, but my

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Speaker 2: camera and the way it is set up, it is

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Speaker 2: almost like filming the coffee area. She does not want

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Speaker 2: to be on camera. And now she's rummaging through the

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Speaker 2: refrigerator looking sideways at me, currently shaking up a wild

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Speaker 2: blueberry juice by Wymans that she drinks to improve her

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Speaker 2: gut health. So there's a chance I could have done

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Speaker 2: her a solid. She's no longer having caffeine, She's drinking

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Speaker 2: blueberry juice. That is the update from the Hudson kitchen table.

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Speaker 2: But who gives a shit about me? Who gives a

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Speaker 2: flying fuck about me? Because we've got Jay Pharaoh and

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Speaker 2: his sister Shana in the waiting room. Jay, if you

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Speaker 2: don't know Jay you're not living on this planet. SNL.

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Speaker 2: One of the funnier dudes in the world. I feel

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Speaker 2: honored to honestly talk to him, and he says a

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Speaker 2: billion impressions, of which I'm not going to ask him

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Speaker 2: to do one because i know that's ridiculous. But I'm

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Speaker 2: excited to learn not just about them, not him, but

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Speaker 2: about you know, his relationship. I think Shane is his manager. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: enough about enough about me talking about them, let's actually

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Speaker 2: bring them on about that. Well, thank you guys for

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Speaker 2: coming on. This is very cool. Yeah, yeah, I read

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Speaker 2: a little bit about obviously, you know. I know Jay.

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Speaker 2: I'm a big SNL fan. I'm a big fan of

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Speaker 2: you man, a big fan of comedy just generally. But

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Speaker 2: just having Cis on too just gives us a whole,

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Speaker 2: very well rounded perspective. Why Jay, Why Jay is who

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Speaker 2: he is? Feels like, after doing a little bit of research, Shana,

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Speaker 2: you made him.

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Speaker 1: I can't take I can't take off the credit for that.

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Speaker 2: I think you have to a little bit because you're

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Speaker 2: the one who propped him up. You gave him confidence.

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Speaker 2: You know, it sounds like you beat the ship out

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Speaker 2: of some bullies.

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Speaker 5: I mean, there was one time when I, well, he'll

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Speaker 5: he'll tell the story differently than I do. But you know,

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Speaker 5: I just had to kind of show him who was

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Speaker 5: the older sibling.

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Speaker 1: She threw me, I didn't throw him. I just lifted

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Speaker 1: him up. I don't remember a toss.

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Speaker 6: I levitat it off of the ground. My feet went,

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Speaker 6: not on the ground. She picked me up.

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Speaker 7: W w E Dwayne Johnson?

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Speaker 2: But did you just did did you deserve it?

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Speaker 6: What?

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Speaker 7: How? I was six?

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Speaker 1: Well it wasn't just an arm warranted talk trying to

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Speaker 1: charge him.

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Speaker 7: She just she's just she ludicrous.

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Speaker 2: What was your relationship like growing up?

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Speaker 7: Though?

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Speaker 2: I mean was it close?

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Speaker 1: I always close?

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Speaker 2: It was how far apart are you guys?

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Speaker 1: About five years?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so maybe that's the trick, you know, because my

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Speaker 2: sister who was supposed to be on with us but

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Speaker 2: wasn't able to because actually she she's doing a movie

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Speaker 2: right now, but we were two and a half years apart,

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Speaker 2: and it was not good.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I found that, like and all the siblings that we've encountered,

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Speaker 5: I always ask like, how far apart are you? Because

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Speaker 5: I think that has a lot to do with their

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Speaker 5: relationship and it's too close. I think there's just too

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Speaker 5: much competition there. It's like, you can't tell me what

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Speaker 5: to do, you know, you don't know more than me.

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Speaker 1: Whatever.

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Speaker 5: But if there are a number of years, you know,

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Speaker 5: and you have like five years or six years or so,

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Speaker 5: I think it's easier for the younger siblings.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I guess it's about the parent dynamic as well.

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Speaker 2: I mean for me, you know, for us, you know,

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Speaker 2: we were we came from a family of divorce. Kurk

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Speaker 2: came into our lives and sort of to raise us.

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Speaker 2: But Kate just wanted my love. It's all she wanted

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Speaker 2: was me to love her. And I didn't have the capacity.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't do it. I was too focused on surviving

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Speaker 2: emotionally myself. Yeah, you know, and then she annoyed the

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Speaker 2: shit out of me because she's performing all the time,

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Speaker 2: and it was like look at me, look at me

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Speaker 2: like just relax, you know, relax. I know you're looking

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Speaker 2: for attention, but you know, now it's detracting from my attention,

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Speaker 2: so get the hell out of here, you know.

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Speaker 1: And it's just the two of you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, then why it came along my brother when

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Speaker 2: when I was ten years old. And then we have

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Speaker 2: a stepbrother Boston as well, but only in you know,

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Speaker 2: only in our later years, in like the twenties, we

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Speaker 2: started to really develop a real relationship. And of course

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Speaker 2: now we're best of friends.

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Speaker 1: Oh as long as you know, you guys came back around.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it worked out.

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Speaker 1: That matters.

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Speaker 2: It worked out. I mean there's still things, you know,

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Speaker 2: I have issues with, but we won't get into that.

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Speaker 2: This isn't about me.

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Speaker 1: Everybody does.

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Speaker 7: You said you're two years apart from two years apart

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Speaker 7: from each other.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like two and a half exactly. Yeah. And growing

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Speaker 2: up would did you have a pretty tight knit family?

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Speaker 2: Are you guys the only siblings by the.

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Speaker 5: Way, Yeah, it's two yeah, yeah, So I mean our

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Speaker 5: parents have been married now for.

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Speaker 1: Forty three years.

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Speaker 2: Wow. Amazing.

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Speaker 1: And it wasn't as.

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Speaker 5: You know, with everybody's relationship, it's not all cookies and rainbows. Ye,

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Speaker 5: there was some tumultuous times in there, but they made it.

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Speaker 1: They survived. And my mom traveled a lot.

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Speaker 5: When we were growing up, so you know, we spent

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Speaker 5: a lot of time together, you know, us when he

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Speaker 5: was a baby, my mom was traveling, you know, she

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Speaker 5: was climbing the civilian it ladder.

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Speaker 7: M hm.

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Speaker 1: So Jay got accustomed to listening to me because he

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Speaker 1: was kind of like my you know, my little baby

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Speaker 2: Yeah, were you fell down the she fell down the

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Speaker 2: stairs with me.

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Speaker 1: I didn't drop m.

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Speaker 2: Carrying you.

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Speaker 7: I was one, she felled.

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Speaker 6: I don't even know if he was one, but she was.

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Speaker 6: You know, she protected she protected me. But I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You think you got a couple of bumps and bruises

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Speaker 1: that kind of shaped who you were.

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Speaker 2: I was about to say that, I mean maybe maybe,

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Speaker 2: Oh some of use bumps and bruises to your comedy.

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Speaker 2: And what happened? Your brain shook up.

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Speaker 6: It needed it needed uh, it needed to refocus and recentering,

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Speaker 6: It needed to recalibrate.

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Speaker 7: So what's all it worked? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you had to, would you say that, Shanny?

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Speaker 2: You we had a big part of raising.

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Speaker 5: So until he was like four or five, right, okay,

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Speaker 5: traveling as much.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, the very early years traveling. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So you look, look when you look in the mirror, right, like,

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Speaker 2: hold on, when you look in the mirror, do you

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Speaker 2: look at yourself and say, look at that handsome man?

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Speaker 7: You know, sometimes not more now than I did before.

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Speaker 6: Okay, you know I could see it though, and and

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Speaker 6: then you know, you know, women would tell you, so

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Speaker 6: you know, you have to believe.

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Speaker 2: More because you look at we look at you from

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Speaker 2: the outside like handsome man, funny shit. But when I

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Speaker 2: was getting getting into your stuff, and how you were bullied,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, and how your sister sort

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Speaker 2: of came to your defense. You know, how did that start?

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Speaker 2: Why was that the case? You know, could you not

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Speaker 2: stand up for yourself? Give me some of the overview

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Speaker 2: of that, and how it might have like sort of

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Speaker 7: You know what.

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Speaker 6: I would say that it went in It went in

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Speaker 6: different I had different phases because they were There was

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Speaker 6: defend myself, But then it just switched. It switched at

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Speaker 6: some point, probably when I when I went to New

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Speaker 6: York and gained weight. It came back and I gained

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Speaker 6: weight very weirdly for a little boy. I didn't gain

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Speaker 6: the stomach, you know, I gained weight in the butt.

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Speaker 7: Oh you know, I would look.

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Speaker 6: Like it's when I gain weight, I turned into a

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Speaker 6: So yeah, I trying to deal with that and cope

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Speaker 7: The back of my body. It was kind of weird

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Speaker 6: And you know, since I kind of did stand out

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Speaker 6: a little bit like that. Uh, you know, I was

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Speaker 6: never really comfortable. Wasn't really comfortable with myself growing up.

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Speaker 6: And I was always you know, since I was heavier,

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Speaker 6: I always thought people were watching me and judging me

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Speaker 6: like that until I went and had a drastic weight

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Speaker 6: loss because I was tired of it. I was looking

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Speaker 6: harus that I can't do this anymore. And I dropped

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Speaker 6: seventy five pounds in three and a half four months.

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Speaker 2: So wow, dude, that's okay, wow.

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Speaker 7: And graduated with honest, that's something else happened.

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Speaker 2: So so basically, you had a seventy five I pound ass, Yeah, it.

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Speaker 6: Was was it in the face, was not in the

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Speaker 6: chest area I've always had. You know, I kind of

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Speaker 6: looked like a centtaur, you know, sator centaur.

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Speaker 2: The centaur. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 6: The horse you got to you got to get the

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Speaker 6: regular up here. And it just got this horse, this

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Speaker 6: horse theory in the back.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. Man, that was that was That was crazy.

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Speaker 2: How did you drop so much weight in so little time?

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Speaker 7: I mean?

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Speaker 2: And and was it just a focus there where you're like,

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Speaker 2: you know what?

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Speaker 6: Every single day I got on a treadmill on level

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Speaker 6: six for ten minutes. I did it. You know what

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Speaker 6: I'm saying, level six ten minutes. I ate nothing but

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Speaker 6: a little bit of barbecue with some salt, some uh

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Speaker 6: but then a little bit of the salad with some salt,

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Speaker 6: some lemon, and some vinegar, probably oil. And I did

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Speaker 6: that for three and a half four months, and it

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Speaker 6: just just felm. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He was later focused during that time. I remember, so,

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Speaker 1: how do we have so much burncute?

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Speaker 7: Do you know?

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Speaker 6: There was a bend in the It was a there

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Speaker 6: was a bend that was in the freezer that nobody

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was, it was. It was a lot going

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Speaker 7: It was. It was really it was really bad.

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Speaker 7: You know, he ended up he ended up kind of

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Speaker 7: You feel me. I'm over here just and I'm over.

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Speaker 7: A little bit? I mean, of course I wasn't you know.

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Speaker 5: And I think I started locking in with the music too, right,

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Speaker 7: That I was in high school. I did that, but

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Speaker 6: I did start rapping when I was That was something

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Speaker 2: Out amazing even in crash that. Yeah, but it doesn't

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, oh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Depression is going to get you? Is that a

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Speaker 7: Oh it was. It was Depression got a hold of Me.

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Speaker 2: But that was okay, okay, Depression got a hold of me.

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Speaker 7: That was uh think I was. I was sixteen when

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Speaker 5: I still remember the hook is actually kind of a box.

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Speaker 2: You still got the hook, let me hear it.

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Speaker 1: It was depression got a hold of me. Depression so cold,

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Speaker 6: It was on Biggie Small and Tupacs, that song that

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Speaker 7: It was it was the running that back running.

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Speaker 7: I wouldn't be on my knees.

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Speaker 7: I had. I was.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like you had. You had your whole crew

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, theater music.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to get back, I want to get

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Speaker 2: But just staying on this for a second, you know,

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Speaker 7: Of my body as I I It just it stays.

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Speaker 7: If I start, if I put on anything, I'll go

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00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:46,880
Speaker 7: back and I'll be.

445
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 6: Like, I cannot go back to that place because it

446
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:50,439
Speaker 6: was it was really a darnit.

447
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,160
Speaker 5: M h say that you would you say you still

448
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:54,679
Speaker 5: have a little bit of like the what is it

449
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 5: called the dysmorphia.

450
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:56,880
Speaker 7: Right.

451
00:21:58,280 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 2: Question?

452
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 6: Just a little but I can still see, like you know,

453
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 6: I look at the mirror, but oh no, then I'll

454
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,400
Speaker 6: put on I'll go outside. I'll go out and look

455
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 6: at the big mirror and put on my boxes.

456
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 7: I'll be like, no, that's nice.

457
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,639
Speaker 2: Okay, Now you just get one of those mirrors that

458
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 2: stretches you just a little bit, so it's not it's

459
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 2: not obscure, it doesn't obscure you, but it just stretches you,

460
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 2: just just a tad. No. I mean, I you know,

461
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 2: I just sort of cut down my drinking because it

462
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 2: was my gosh, man.

463
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 7: Yo, where are you? Where are you from?

464
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 6: L a Okay, okay, okay, I want to say. My

465
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 6: mother's from New York. She's got like this super a

466
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 6: super drinking thing. She she can Her tolerance is crazy.

467
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,360
Speaker 5: Which is wild because her parents didn't really start drinking

468
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 5: like alcohol until I went to college. Really yeah, I

469
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 5: mean they woul drink like wine. They have wine coolers, right,

470
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,400
Speaker 5: you know. They didn't have like a looking closet cabinet

471
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,439
Speaker 5: until after I went to school. And I don't know

472
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 5: if I was just stressing them out or.

473
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 6: We found a source of all the problems.

474
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 2: And now they're putting them back though now that I mean, yeah, they.

475
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 1: Don't they don't indulge as much as they used to either.

476
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 2: I just found myself getting into these this pattern of

477
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 2: you know, the problem is I can function, so five

478
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 2: o'clock whatever rolls around dealing with because I have three kids.

479
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 2: I have seventeen, fourteen and eleven. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

480
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 2: You know, I need a drink, so I but the

481
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 2: problem is I can't have one or two.

482
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:37,199
Speaker 7: You know.

483
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 2: I got my cool little bar area with my thing,

484
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 2: and it's like kind of this and it's my spot,

485
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 2: right and I will sit down. Yeah, I'll get on

486
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 2: my computer and I'll make one tequilas. I love tequilas,

487
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden before yeah I love and

488
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 2: I still do. But before you know it, I'm like

489
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:57,120
Speaker 2: seven eight deep no. And then I'm on my computer.

490
00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:01,120
Speaker 2: I'm calling all my friends, I'm fucking texting online. I'm

491
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 2: loving my time. Yeah, you know, I love it. And

492
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 2: then and then I'll go upstairs around nine nine thirty,

493
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 2: I smoke a big joint, get in bed, turn on

494
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 2: some TV. Boom, and that was my pattern. The problem

495
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 2: is I was feeling like shit, yeah you know what

496
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 2: I mean, And it was like almost every day. So

497
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 2: I've decided to not cut it. Out, cut it out,

498
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 2: but be healthy during the week and then have one

499
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 2: night during the weekend.

500
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 7: Everything in moderation.

501
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 6: Man, anything you give too was never is never good.

502
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I couldn't go fully the other way either.

503
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 2: I'm just like I'm healthy. I'm never going to touch anything.

504
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,199
Speaker 2: I'm a vice guy. I like my vices, you know.

505
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 2: I mean, I enjoy food, I enjoy wine, liquor weed.

506
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 2: I I like it. So I can't just cut that out.

507
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 7: Ain't none wrong with weed.

508
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 2: No, nothing at all, nothing at all. It's legal. Now,

509
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 2: come on.

510
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, you might not want to smoke a pound a day.

511
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 2: But no, no, I mean, I don't you know, I

512
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 2: don't even really smoke during the day. It's just kind

513
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 2: of my wind down at night. Yeah, you know. Oh

514
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 2: you know you you were your best parent when you're

515
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 2: a little blazed, especially when they're young.

516
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:18,199
Speaker 1: It's so funny, like I don't typically indulge now just

517
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: because I'm like, I don't know, you know, school's gonna

518
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: call me or whatever the case. It just really can't.

519
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 5: But I remember when he was smaller and sometimes we

520
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 5: be over Jay's house hanging out. We may you know,

521
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 5: past one or whatever, and the next time he saw me,

522
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 5: it was like he was staring through my soul, like

523
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 5: he knew something was up.

524
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh no, I don't.

525
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 6: I don't.

526
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:43,360
Speaker 1: I don't like how to shield right.

527
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 6: Guys.

528
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: So I just kind of stopped.

529
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 6: Unless I'm on vacation or something, I just go outside

530
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 6: to the patio.

531
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 7: Yeah.

532
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, look, everyone a lot of people

533
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 2: come home and they might have a whiskey, they might

534
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 2: have a tequila or wine down, right, and then they

535
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 2: do with their kids, especially when they're little. There's there's

536
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 2: no no difference. Even it's better you have a couple

537
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 2: of puffs. It makes bedtime easier. You're not screaming your

538
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 2: fucking face off, like yeah, yeah, yeah, you're not losing

539
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 2: it because you yeah, you know, that's just what happens.

540
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 2: You're just much more chill.

541
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:17,479
Speaker 1: You know.

542
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 2: The relationship is a little bit better with the children

543
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 2: when you just had you're not just a puffer two.

544
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 3: It's a couple of puffs, just a little couple of puffs,

545
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 3: A couple of puffs.

546
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 7: I mean, it's puff the magic track.

547
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 2: That's that's that's right, that is the name. It's definitely it.

548
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 7: Ain't puff puff, that's right.

549
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 2: Right, we should do it. We should do a new

550
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 2: series called Puff Puff Past the Magic Track. That's I

551
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 2: think that's good. It's his cousin who's just a little

552
00:26:55,520 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 2: more generous. But Jay, when did you When did comedy

553
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 2: become sort of that creative outlet? Honestly, you know, man, I.

554
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 6: Was always saying outlandish things and roasting and roasting people

555
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 6: at church, which I feel so bad about it, but

556
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 6: then now I don't because it's if I didn't do that,

557
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 6: that was me. That was my creative outlet. That was

558
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 6: me feeling comfortable around people to allow that talent to shine.

559
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, but I used to. So it was at church.

560
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 7: I was at church.

561
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 6: It was at church, it was it would be at school,

562
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 6: it will be around some of my uncles, Like my

563
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 6: uncle Patrick will tell you I've been saying wild stuff

564
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 6: since I was five years old. He always laugh about it,

565
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 6: and I just was I didn't take it anyway.

566
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 7: I was just like, all right, I made Uncle Patrick laugh.

567
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 7: That's cool. But so it was like that's actually.

568
00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 6: How Yeah, it was solidification in verification that I was

569
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 6: I was doing what I was put here to do.

570
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 6: But and theater theater that was eight years old. I

571
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 6: did theater at eight and got into doing stand up

572
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 6: around fifteen sixteen. Oh wow, you know, I got into

573
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 6: this thing called the Virginia Eid of Talent Search.

574
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 7: Of course, like I said, I.

575
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 6: Was performing before that in front of people in pockets,

576
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 6: but I wasn't. I wasn't on the main stage. My

577
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 6: father put me in a competition when I was sixteen,

578
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 6: a Virginia Heid of Talent Search, and I got fifth

579
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 6: place out of it. And it was like three hundred

580
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 6: people in it. And I mean, you know these competitions

581
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 6: where you gotta pay, you gotta pay to be in it,

582
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 6: and then you know, a contingent on.

583
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 7: The crowd and all of that. You know, people cheer

584
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 7: for you. But they had judges and all of that,

585
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 7: and it.

586
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: Was only one more comedian there was another.

587
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 7: It was like it was like it was like three

588
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 7: or four.

589
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: Okay, and then everybody else was like singer.

590
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 6: Tap dance, singers, taped, been triloquist.

591
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 2: So it's like it was like America's got talent type

592
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 2: of ex Yeah yeah yeah, so it's just if you

593
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: have a skill, RW.

594
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: But you were the only comedian in that place.

595
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 6: I was only comedian that place, and I was and

596
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 6: I was sixteen, said, So after that, I just I

597
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 6: kept going with it. A thorough good comedy club Bayside

598
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 6: in Uh, bayside.

599
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 7: In is not even I don't even think that's open

600
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 7: emore wow. Uh. And then uh the Funny Boat. I

601
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 7: started doing that when I was eighteen. Yeah.

602
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 6: Got I was discovered by this cat, one of these

603
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 6: old Freeze Love, which is a friend of mine who.

604
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 7: With Charlie Murphy.

605
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 6: He saw me and he introduced me to Charlie, and

606
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 6: then Charlie took me to Rod when I was nineteen,

607
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 6: and then you know I got SNL at twenty two.

608
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 2: Well how was that rise though? I mean was it?

609
00:29:59,480 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 7: Was? It?

610
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 2: Obviously a talent, there's no doubt about that, but you

611
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 2: had the confidence as well. Was it like I belong here,

612
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 2: this is what's supposed to happen. Or was the shock

613
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: like holy shit, wow, what's happening?

614
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 6: I think now? I always always felt like I could

615
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 6: go on stage. It was it was something. It was

616
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 6: something there, like I said, with the theater background and everything,

617
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 6: but making people. When I got my first standard ovation

618
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 6: in two thousand and six at the Funny Bone, that's

619
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 6: what I knew. I knew something was up. I felt it.

620
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 6: I felt it, you know it was It was crazy.

621
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 6: There's actually footage of this I had. I had this Academics,

622
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 6: Academics hoodie on. It was the lower in the hood

623
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 6: and it was blue. And Michael Michael Richards had just

624
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 6: messed up. He just said the N word at the

625
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 6: comedies at the laugh Factory, and I did a set

626
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 6: and I had all these characters talking about it. And

627
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 6: I remember I had been ze. I had two forks

628
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,959
Speaker 6: and I said, that was voice, I said, I said, okay.

629
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 6: I said, all right, do you want to talk about

630
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 6: I said, you want to talk about black people?

631
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 7: To use any word? I said, well, these forks are

632
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 7: going up your ass. That's right. Pick her cheap right left,

633
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 7: pick her, damn cheat. These forks are going up your ass.

634
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 6: Oh. Now that night was even more special because everybody

635
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 6: was bombing that night.

636
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 7: It was people. I got up there, I did that.

637
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 7: People went crazy. I get a standing ovation. I didn't

638
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 7: even say anything when.

639
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 6: I walked off stage, and I blew on the mic

640
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 6: like Diddy, I said, and I walked off real quick.

641
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 7: I walked off.

642
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, And that that put it

643
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 6: in my head.

644
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 7: I was like, yo' I'm kind of I'm good at this.

645
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 7: I'm good at this.

646
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 6: I hadn't got a had I got a stand in

647
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 6: ovation before though, I don't know, I did not like that.

648
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 6: I had done this bit, this Cameron and dipset bit

649
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 6: I came up with, and that was people will go

650
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 6: crazy for that. But after two minutes, you know, what

651
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 6: are you going to do afterwards? Yeah, so I kind

652
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 6: of had to figure out and develop that. But but

653
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 6: share at that time when that happened, I knew, I said, Okay,

654
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,239
Speaker 6: this is where I'm supposed to be.

655
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 2: Do you remember, uh, back when you were when you

656
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: out of the three hundred people when you came in fifth,

657
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: but you get like a few minutes to go do something.

658
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 7: When you got five, I had five minutes.

659
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 2: Five minutes. Do you remember any of Do you remember

660
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: your bets? Do you remember your jokes?

661
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 7: I remember I was.

662
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 6: I remember it was just when Janet Jackson had done

663
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 6: the Super Bowl with Justin Nipple pressed out.

664
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 7: It was r Shelley was you know, that was the

665
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 7: first round, you know when.

666
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 2: He was peeing on people, but he was peeing that's.

667
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 6: When the that's when the tape was passing through like

668
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 6: like some like some mixtape like a drink. It was

669
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 6: and and I did, I did Bernie Mac talking about him.

670
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 7: I did Crocodile Hunter.

671
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 6: I did Crocodile Hunter, and I did I did Befort

672
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 6: Ricky Smiley's character talking about the situation with R Kelly.

673
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 7: It was one. It was it was somebody.

674
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 6: Oh and I came out to Nellie's Pimp Jews as

675
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 6: Kat Williams.

676
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 7: I was saying the sound.

677
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 6: Pimp Jim.

678
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 7: And yeah, my dad, my dad actually wrote that with me.

679
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 2: And then what's so cool is that that that that

680
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 2: you know, when you talk about your dad and he's

681
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 2: going to put you up for this stuff. You know,

682
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 2: it's nice to hear that because a lot of the

683
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 2: times you hear about people who are creative who want

684
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 2: to follow those dreams, but you know, their parents aren't

685
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 2: necessarily accepting of it because it's it's a pipe dream.

686
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 2: It's not it's very difficult to do what you did

687
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 2: and that actually becomes successful and break given the amount

688
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 2: of people were trying to do it. But for your

689
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 2: parents to understand that that's who you were and what

690
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: you needed to do, and to support that and actually

691
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:04,719
Speaker 2: go out on a limb and say, you know what,

692
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 2: this is what you know, succeed or fail, like, I'm

693
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 2: on your side. You know that's that's that's special.

694
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 5: One of the reasons why I you know it was

695
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 5: it wasn't even like a question.

696
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 6: You know.

697
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 5: When he really started doing this, I was like, oh,

698
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 5: I'm going to support like I saw, you know, the

699
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 5: talent and the potential, and I never wanted him to

700
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 5: feel like, you know, he didn't have like full support.

701
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 2: And you're his manager, right, yes, So how did that happen?

702
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: So when I was in because I was.

703
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: I still like, I still don't know. He's like one

704
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 2: day I woke up and she just said, I'm your

705
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 2: big sister, I'm your manager. Whether you like it or not,

706
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: You're gonna fine.

707
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: You don't need to sign anything.

708
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 2: This is just right.

709
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 7: We have a blow.

710
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 6: No.

711
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: I think.

712
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 5: One of his audition this was when def Comedy Jam

713
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 5: was coming back around. Shot out to Bob some of

714
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 5: them and they were bringing that back and the audition

715
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 5: was coming through Richmond, and I was in Richmond at

716
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 5: the time. I went to VCU and I was still

717
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 5: living there after I graduated, so.

718
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 7: Well, you were Actually it was before the first one

719
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 7: was before that.

720
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: Well, the first audition in Virginia B.

721
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,439
Speaker 7: First one was at Blake's in Virginia B. That's right,

722
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 7: that's right, that's that's when you first started representing.

723
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, And I remember I went, I was like,

724
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 5: all right, I'm just gonna stay.

725
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: I'm your manager because I mean he's young. I know,

726
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 1: he's super talented.

727
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 5: You know, I just wanted to kind of watch out

728
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 5: for sharks and predator or whatever. So that's kind of

729
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 5: mean I was saying it. And then at a certain

730
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 5: point and just we just kind of grew together. I

731
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 5: remember she.

732
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 7: Was the manager because my dad was my manager first.

733
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 6: And he he was you one of those folks that

734
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 6: add he You asked him how much he felt like

735
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 6: he deserved and he said he said half.

736
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 5: I said, well, I mean I drove you to the gig,

737
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 5: gas money, and also like there were all these things,

738
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 5: all these taxis.

739
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 7: He always he itemizes everything.

740
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 2: He half. Yeah.

741
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 6: I'm like, dude, with the young I'm not saying, alf,

742
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 6: come on, what are we doing? You're taking half my bread? Like,

743
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 6: come on, ge Like I'm struggling.

744
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 2: He's sending you receipts from gas and like little snacks.

745
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,919
Speaker 6: And that's how our dad is even when we work.

746
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 6: You know, he's a handyman that we worked with him.

747
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 6: We used to work with him him as me and

748
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 6: Shane and both work with him. And from from the

749
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 6: moment you get in the car, if he takes you

750
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 6: to McDonald's, that.

751
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 2: I'm amazing.

752
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 7: I took you to so okay. So you had a

753
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 7: you had an egg mcmuffle and the nine, and you

754
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 7: had lunch. You want the lunch at the Windys. I

755
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,720
Speaker 7: an't even want to go to Windy. Lunch at Windys

756
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 7: and you got a spicy chicken sandwich and.

757
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 6: You got a Biggie fry and a Coca cola.

758
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 7: That's another eight.

759
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 2: Right, it's like, and then you had a then you

760
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 2: had a bite of my wi and then you were

761
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 2: just one bite of my my whopper and that's thirty

762
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 2: eight cents.

763
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 7: That's yep, that's that's thirty eight cents right there. So

764
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 7: by the end of the day.

765
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 2: You know, by the end of the day, you owe him.

766
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm in.

767
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 5: But I remember I used to send out just emails

768
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 5: because I was like networking and meeting people. I used

769
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 5: to do when I so I graduated with a degree

770
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 5: in mascot electorn.

771
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: I thought I was going to you know, beat tamor

772
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: Hall or somebody. So I started.

773
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 5: I started to this show, like this regional show, Very True,

774
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 5: where I would cover like everything happening in central Virginia

775
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 5: on the entertainment side. So I was interviewing all the

776
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 5: artists and stuff. I was in the clubs, so I

777
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 5: knew the promoters and people wanted to start doing like

778
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 5: comedy nights and you know whatever.

779
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: So I'm networking and it's so funny.

780
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 5: I ran across an email Gmail keeps everything from twenty

781
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 5: and twelve, I think, or it could have been earlier

782
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 5: than that, and I was pitching some booker and I

783
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 5: was like, yeah, you know, I represent Jake Farrell, Like

784
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 5: he can host, he can headline.

785
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: I was like headline. I'm like he probably had like

786
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 1: ten minutes.

787
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 7: Said twenty twelve. No, no, no, no, it.

788
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: Wasn't two thousands. Was earlier than that. It might have

789
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 1: been like two thousand and eight.

790
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 6: Two thousand, Yeah, that would have been a rough hit.

791
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 6: Lot of sets, right, I didn't have a developed back then.

792
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:32,959
Speaker 6: I had a good feature set, got fifteen minutes, yeah,

793
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 6: but I got I can't I can't stretch it, you

794
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 6: know what I mean. It ain't coked, it ain't no.

795
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 6: I ain't whiping no work.

796
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 7: I can't this.

797
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, to learn it.

798
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 6: I remember I did an in Richmond. I did this

799
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 6: place called Jazzy's Island. Yeah that was wait, that was

800
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 6: in two thousand and nine, and I just it was

801
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 6: a birthday party and it's this lady set up her

802
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 6: backyard like a like a like a wow. Yeah, And

803
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 6: you know I was not I was not fun at

804
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 6: that place until until I started dipping into the crowd.

805
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,919
Speaker 7: I had to dip into the crowd and start talking

806
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 7: about people a time. That's when it was. That's when

807
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 7: it started working. Yeah, yeah, that was. That was about

808
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,919
Speaker 7: twenty minutes saying there you already got them. Yeah. Yeah.

809
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 1: So I say that to say I believe in him

810
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: from the beginning.

811
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 5: And I was like, it was my my duty. I

812
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 5: was going to say purpose or my my my intention

813
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 5: to you know, try to make sure I could create

814
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 5: opportunities or find opportunities for him.

815
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 2: It was your it was your it was your duty

816
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 2: and intention plus ten percent.

817
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 5: Well, I mean that Plinny wasn't really making any money.

818
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 5: And even when we started going on the road. So

819
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 5: after I was working at Capital One, I was a

820
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 5: product manager for email marketing team that was also part

821
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 5: time managing him. So when I would get home from work,

822
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 5: I would like jump on emails and you know whatever.

823
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 5: And then when the housing market crashed, I lost my

824
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 5: job and then asked me if I wanted to be reassigned,

825
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 5: and somewhere in the company.

826
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 1: I was like no. I was like, I think I'm

827
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: just going to manage my brother full time.

828
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 7: Moved home. I've got one more month on my lease.

829
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 1: So that's what we did, and then we just started

830
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: going up to New York. I was on unemployment.

831
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 5: Cash for gold was hot at the time, so I

832
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 5: like all my broken gold jewelry.

833
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 7: They traded it in for gas money.

834
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we just hit the road and we had

835
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 5: relatives in New York and Jersey so we could stay

836
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 5: for a couple of weeks at a time. And you know,

837
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 5: he was just working out networking, meeting people seeing get.

838
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 7: Him on and we did that.

839
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: And I don't think I was taking any money from

840
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:35,720
Speaker 1: you at the time, because.

841
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 2: I love that story. That's so fucking great. I mean,

842
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 2: it's beautiful story, honestly, Like you know, especially your siblings

843
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 2: because that can go south. Yeah, you know, the siblings.

844
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 2: I mean, it's an incredible relationship, and I believe me,

845
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 2: Kate and I have interviewed a lot of them. It's

846
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 2: a really important relationship. You know, you had the bras up.

847
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 2: But it is it's tough. Yeah, it's tough, you know.

848
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 2: I mean it can get tough, especially when they're dealing

849
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 2: with business stuff. You know, my sister and I have

850
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 2: been in one crazy fight over a business situation, you

851
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And

852
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 2: at what point were you like all right, you know,

853
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 2: was it discussed like and money or take I'm going

854
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 2: to take ten percent and this is going to be

855
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 2: what it's going to be.

856
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: You know, I don't remember.

857
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 2: You still don't have a contract. Why would you.

858
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: I think we have something somewhere, some somewhere something.

859
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 2: There's a piece of paper somewhere.

860
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 7: I think. So there was paperwork was made in twenty ten.

861
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 6: It was yeah, that's when I started maybe you started

862
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 6: getting paid. Maybe I started giving you at the.

863
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:50,959
Speaker 7: BT when I got the BT.

864
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, because they paid me five thousand dollars and

865
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 6: they called it chicken money.

866
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 7: Here's your chicken.

867
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 6: Money, like chicken money, I'm going to I'm going to

868
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 6: the cheesecakes factory.

869
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 7: You paid me five thousand dollars Virginia.

870
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is I'm kicked up.

871
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 2: So for both of you, then, what was what was

872
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 2: the break? And I said both of you because you

873
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 2: were there from the beginning, Shane like, this is It's cool.

874
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 2: You hustled for your brother. You decided not to take

875
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 2: another gig after the crash. I said, I'm gonna I

876
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 2: believe in I believe in my man and and we're

877
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 2: going to ride this train. And you know, so you

878
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 2: guys did this ship together. You know what I'm saying, Like,

879
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 2: did you have that moment that break or was it

880
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 2: SNL where you look at each other and it's like,

881
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,720
Speaker 2: oh wow, yeah, wow, wow wow.

882
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 5: I think it was that time when you got to

883
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 5: call that night because he had done a showcase. It

884
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 5: was a laptop showcase, Bob, I'm gonna showcase.

885
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 1: And there were a couple of folks in the crowd

886
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: that worked at ESNW. There was some agents in the crowd.

887
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: There was one who took a liking to.

888
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 5: Him, Josh Pearl, and shout out to Josh Pearl, and

889
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 5: there were just conversations going on, right, So he got

890
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 5: a call to be in a movie to cook Out too,

891
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 5: And that's kind of how we, you know, got got

892
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 5: the agency. That was the first opportunity, and then you know,

893
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 5: there was yeah, and.

894
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 7: That was nine. So it was I got that movie.

895
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 6: I got that movie in O nine because like like

896
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 6: she said, we were going back and forth up up

897
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 6: to New Jersey, New York and doing the Chipman circuit

898
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 6: and I was, you know, we were networking whatever, and

899
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 6: I was still doing video. I was doing videos. I

900
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 6: was putting the videos out on YouTube. I remember a

901
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 6: couple of them had already gone a little viral. It's

902
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 6: a reason I got booked overseas to do it this

903
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 6: thing called the Real Deal Comedy Jam and London. And

904
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 6: then before that I did I did this thing called

905
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 6: You Got Jokes Montreal in Montreal. But those videos, those

906
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 6: videos were circulating and I was just having fun with them,

907
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 6: and I think we were coming back from uh well,

908
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 6: I had just done an audition for NBC called Pink House,

909
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 6: and they were blown away, so they offered me a

910
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 6: holding deal off of that. Simultaneously. Simultaneously what was going on.

911
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 6: I was making those. I was making this this series

912
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 6: called Behind the Actor. I told I had this idea

913
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 6: for Will Smith and Denzel Washington talking to each other

914
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 6: about why they never made a movie together, and and

915
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 6: that that video is funny because I had already done

916
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 6: two or three other videos with Denzel and Will. But

917
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 6: I'd done two other two other videos with them, but

918
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 6: I didn't put up. I didn't put up the first

919
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 6: one because it just didn't make say, it was funny

920
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 6: as hell, but it just didn't make sense. The second one,

921
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 6: I did a trailer, and then that third one, I

922
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 6: was coming back from UH. We were coming back from

923
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 6: New York, and I said, I got this idea and

924
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 6: we shot it and I was in January, UH, and

925
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 6: then E picked it up. Yeah, they put it on television,

926
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 6: and I was like, y'all.

927
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 7: Shame them on TV.

928
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,439
Speaker 1: Was probably that was the first.

929
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 7: I was the first movie. Yeah, you know. I was like, yo,

930
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 7: someone my own television.

931
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 6: And then and then I was looking at my videos

932
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 6: and I got this and I see this email come

933
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 6: in and it's like it's ad Sense and it was like, yo,

934
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 6: you can monetize your videos now you have enough views.

935
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 6: And I said, wait, what really I said, I've been

936
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 6: I've been doing this. I've been putting videos up for

937
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 6: a couple of years. I was like, oh wow, I'm

938
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 6: getting I get paid from this, and I put the

939
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 6: It was getting so much attention to will Smith and

940
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 6: Denzel was getting so much attention that they put the

941
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 6: ads up there, and then it was just a it

942
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 6: was an ongoing thing.

943
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 7: Then they started going to the rest of my videos.

944
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 6: I'm still going up and auditioning, and then that's I

945
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 6: got the holding deal for NBC, and then Fox Fox

946
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 6: came bt BT shot this thing with me called the

947
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 6: Package that Lamar and Moris did as well, and then

948
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 6: that turned into what spring bling. It was spring Bling,

949
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 6: and then it was the Package, and then Fox had

950
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 6: a deal that they offered me. Uh so I had

951
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 6: a few bets. Tried to come with a deal too,

952
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 6: but you know, a cake, you know. And then I

953
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 6: just kept working. Got the got called into audition for

954
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 6: sn L in August up.

955
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 2: To you got called into audition. We want to see Yeah, okay,

956
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 2: but I had.

957
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 7: Already put it all right. We put together one tape

958
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 7: in two thousand.

959
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 1: And nine because they were talking about possible season replacement

960
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: and they didn't go, you know, forward with the mid

961
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: season replacement, and then the next year he got the

962
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: opportunity to.

963
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 7: Go, and they just told me, yeah, wait until next summer.

964
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 2: And defront alarn Need did the whole deal. Yeah, you walking,

965
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: you know, and they tell you like, he's not going

966
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 2: to laugh. There's a good chance he's not gonna laugh.

967
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 6: I mean I couldn't even see anybody, man, because it's

968
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 6: so dark in there.

969
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 7: You know. I heard laughing on it in the corner. Though.

970
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 7: Maybe I'm doing allright?

971
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 2: And did you go in there? What did you go

972
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 2: into with impressions?

973
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 7: Is that? Was?

974
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 2: That?

975
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 7: Was that?

976
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 2: What you were doing? I had six impressions and two

977
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 2: so you had two characters as well.

978
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 7: Two characters. Martin MS.

979
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 6: Dunkley was a black Jewish dude who was in his thirties,

980
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 6: still living at his mom's house, trying.

981
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 2: Tom that's funny, I like, you know, he was trying

982
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 2: to hustle Microsoft equipment from the nineties, like who's gonna

983
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 2: buy this?

984
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 6: He was getting cooked like people would, people will cook him.

985
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 6: I kill yourself, you should you shouldn't.

986
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, who was what was your what was your

987
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 2: other character?

988
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 6: Obama was Barack Obama's subconscious everything he wanted to say

989
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 6: that he couldn't say at the top.

990
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 2: Before King Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You do the audition.

991
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 2: I'm sure it felt and felt good. You know when

992
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 2: you know auditions like you do an audition, it feels

993
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 2: like ship you when it feels like shit, and you

994
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 2: know when you get that rush when you walk out

995
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 2: of the room, we're like, oh shit, oh my god,

996
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 2: Like that was good. Whether I get the gig or not,

997
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 2: I just you can feel it. You can feel it

998
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 2: in your in your blood, in your veins. It's rush.

999
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 2: You get that rush.

1000
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 7: I had something to prove because my girlfriend had broken

1001
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 7: up with me. I said, I'll show you.

1002
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 6: And after the audition, the guy who was videotaping, he said,

1003
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,760
Speaker 6: that was one of the best auditions we've.

1004
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 7: Had in years. Wow. I felt like I was like, man,

1005
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 7: I might get this. I might get this job.

1006
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1007
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 6: Going up to went up to MC York for three weeks,

1008
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 6: back and forth talking to talking to Lauren and the producers,

1009
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 6: and then uh yeah, three weeks after that audition, I

1010
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 6: got the offer.

1011
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 2: Oh so, oh my god, what what does that feel

1012
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 2: like for both of you? Do you remember the moment

1013
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 2: when it was like, it's yours.

1014
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, I remember because Lauren had called and I missed

1015
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,439
Speaker 6: this call because I was on a flight, and uh.

1016
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 6: I called the office back and they told me Lauren

1017
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 6: is gonna call you. Wait by your phone. And I

1018
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 6: waited by my phone, but I ain't got no patience,

1019
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 6: so I called the office up the office and then

1020
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 6: they were like, hold on, Lauren wants to talk to you.

1021
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 6: And they patched me into him and he goes, Jane,

1022
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 6: your whole life is about to change.

1023
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, are you ready to come to New York.

1024
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 6: We think you're very talented and I know you're gonna

1025
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 6: work hard, and uh, this should be a very exciting

1026
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 6: call for you.

1027
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 7: I was like, yeah, well yeah, we yeah, talked to mine,

1028
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:47,879
Speaker 7: you know, talking to my constituents. I was. I told him,

1029
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 7: I said, yeah, man, I'm ready to work.

1030
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 6: And I hit Shana and I said, hey, man, you

1031
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 6: know we're going.

1032
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 7: To New York.

1033
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: Because I think I was home for your home. I

1034
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: think I was home.

1035
00:49:58,440 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 5: I think I was listening on the other side of

1036
00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 5: the door because our rooms used to be connected by

1037
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 5: their tears.

1038
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure.

1039
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 5: Hard to remember that exact moment now, but I'm sure

1040
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 5: I think we were like jumping up and down.

1041
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 7: Amazing, pretty sure. I was like, wow, just just mine

1042
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 7: was crazy, mind blown.

1043
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 2: I do want to know what's going on now?

1044
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 7: What do you got?

1045
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 2: What's happening? How's life? Everything good? What are we working on?

1046
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,959
Speaker 7: Still working? Still working with each other to this day.

1047
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 6: I did a special it's called Jared Shanea directed it.

1048
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 6: I shot it at the Din Theater. Just put it

1049
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 6: out a week ago. It's got It's got three hundred

1050
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 6: thousand views on it. Now that means a lot because

1051
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 6: my channel has not been a lot.

1052
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 7: It was dead.

1053
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,760
Speaker 6: It's kind of being resuscitated. But a lot of people

1054
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 6: are taking lik into it. Man, and the comments on it,

1055
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,760
Speaker 6: I would say they are ninety three percent.

1056
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 2: Right.

1057
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 7: So when you have something like people.

1058
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 6: Like I hope you're really proud of the work that

1059
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 6: you did because you know, it shows a different side.

1060
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 6: It's funny, it's a special. It's not just a com

1061
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 6: not just a comedy set that was filmed. It's an

1062
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 6: actual special, and it's it's it's great, you know, and

1063
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 6: she she directed it.

1064
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 7: You know that Quiz with Balls is one of the hottest.

1065
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 2: Sugar Fox right, Yeah, I have a deal with Fox.

1066
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 2: I have a producing deal with Fox, so I know

1067
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 2: about that show. Yeah yeah yeah, and also a Goldie

1068
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 2: horn yeah yeah yeah. Now I know your boy was your.

1069
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 6: Boy was a crushing like a Russian back in the nineties.

1070
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 2: Let us know, I know. I mean, it's crazy the

1071
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 2: amount of people who tell me that, you know, oh,

1072
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 2: your mom, what's up with their mom? By the way,

1073
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 2: she's seventy eight and still looks great. Yeah.

1074
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 6: In the First Wives Club, Yeah great.

1075
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 2: You don't know me, yeah yeah, yeah, none of your

1076
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 2: little toys.

1077
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 6: Me.

1078
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 2: She still sings that song, by the way, it yes,

1079
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 2: especially when Kurt's giving her ship exactly. I appreciate you guys.

1080
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:33,919
Speaker 2: Let's let's definitely get information. We'll keep in touch for sure, allright, guys,

1081
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 2: have a good one.

1082
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 7: You know.

1083
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 3: Sometimes I wish, uh, well, it's not a wish, I

1084
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 3: just it's almost like we're so comfortable with each other,

1085
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 3: my family and Kate that, you know, very independent people,

1086
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,439
Speaker 3: and sometimes it would be nice if we may be

1087
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 3: more codependent and we can lean on each other and

1088
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:57,760
Speaker 3: rely on each other more.

1089
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 2: Although we do, that's not fair to say. I mean

1090
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 2: we we.

1091
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 7: Do.

1092
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 2: We do when we have issues you know, we definitely

1093
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 2: call and talk and hash shit out, but it's just

1094
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 2: so nice to see such a loving relationship and you

1095
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 2: can tell she's taken care of him, you know, you know,

1096
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 2: you can see it, you can feel it, and maybe

1097
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 2: that five year gap, you know, really helps. But yeah,

1098
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 2: I don't know, you feel their connectedness. Anyway, I'm going off.

1099
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,399
Speaker 2: That was fun. I'm leaving by