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Speaker 1: Eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bowl Bishop

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Speaker 1: and Nathan Segura.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's do it alive on a Tuesday edition

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Speaker 2: of Cleveland Brown's Daily Merely, Bo could be getting a

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Speaker 2: surprise from Napa Valley here shortly with an update from

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Speaker 2: the Great Z. We will get that to you when

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Speaker 2: we can load it up here on a fine Tuesday

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Speaker 2: edition of the program. A conversation I know you're going

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Speaker 2: to look forward to. Dan Sagan is going to join

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Speaker 2: Z coming up in the second hour of the program

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Speaker 2: for an extended conversation on roster building, the draft, free agency,

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Speaker 2: how they put all of this thing together in a

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Speaker 2: team that many people here in the building really think

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Speaker 2: could be a team that contends on a very big

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Speaker 2: stage as soon as next season. Obviously, if that to

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Speaker 2: look forward to, AB was on McAfee last week. We'll

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Speaker 2: have some excerpts of that coming up for you in

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Speaker 2: the two o'clock hour as well. Greg Newso, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: stop by the show at one thirty five, fresh off

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Speaker 2: of his new deal. Our old buddy Nick Schuck will

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Speaker 2: join us. That's Nick Shuck. He's gonna join coming up

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Speaker 2: at one fifteen on what has kind of been a

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Speaker 2: pretty quiet offseason in the NFL, but major question marks

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Speaker 2: obviously specifically at quarterback in the AFC North. Joe Burrow

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Speaker 2: back on the practice field down in Cincinnati. He's thrown

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Speaker 2: the last two days. Get his opinions on all the

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Speaker 2: teams in the North, and especially his draft grades around

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Speaker 2: the AFC North as well. That is coming up at

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Speaker 2: one fifteen, And of course we do the show today,

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Speaker 2: acknowledge you that the Cavaliers are in action tonight in

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Speaker 2: Game one, seven o'clock in Boston against the Seas. Boston

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Speaker 2: obviously the overwhelming favorite in this one. For I think

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Speaker 2: most of us, we want this to be interesting. We

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Speaker 2: want to be good television shows, things to watch, make

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Speaker 2: a little bit of run at this things. You want

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Speaker 2: these games to be contended. As these games go along.

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Speaker 2: I was talking yesterday with Paulus about this. I would

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Speaker 2: take five contested even in a loss, over a six

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Speaker 2: all of them are blowouts. Give me contested games, give

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Speaker 2: me compelling theater game in and game out. For that

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Speaker 2: to be the case, You're going to need, obviously, more

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Speaker 2: of a herculean effort from Donovan Mitchell, even more than

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Speaker 2: what he was even last year, last season, when last series,

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Speaker 2: rather when he was spectacular against Orlando. You're talking with Boston.

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Speaker 2: You've got a lot of history between those two franchises

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Speaker 2: as well. So something to keep an eye on. One

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Speaker 2: of the things that I wanted to get to right

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Speaker 2: off the top. I stumbled into this last night. I

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Speaker 2: was watching the end of the Knicks and Pacers game,

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Speaker 2: and the way that that one finished obviously had a

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Speaker 2: lot of people buzzing this morning in terms of the

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Speaker 2: fouls that were called and the way that it was

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Speaker 2: officiated down the stretch and with good reason, and it

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Speaker 2: was incredible stuff that happened to get New York that

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Speaker 2: win in that atmosphere is obviously spectacular. But towards the

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Speaker 2: end of it, they ran a video of vignette talking

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Speaker 2: talking about his abilities and what he's capable of and

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Speaker 2: that you cannot miss this kid. In that vignette was

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Speaker 2: a clip of Kevin Durant praising Anthony Edwards, and then

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Speaker 2: it was edited juxtaposed to an image of Anthony Edwards

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Speaker 2: being quite chesty and kind of yelling in the in

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Speaker 2: the game at Durant in their previous series, and that

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Speaker 2: Game two last night between the Nuggets and the Timberwolves,

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Speaker 2: and I'm gonna acknowledge for you, I'm not watching the

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Speaker 2: NBA every night, not the way that I used to.

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Speaker 2: something I'm paratrooping in on every single night. So I've

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Speaker 2: seen Anthony Edwards play, but not to the point where

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Speaker 2: We absolutely are now, and it reminded me a little bit.

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Speaker 2: This Timberwolves team and Edwards specifically reminded me of when

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Speaker 2: and who knows if anything's different if we don't have

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Speaker 2: greatness with him will only continue. Speaking of greatness, I

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Speaker 2: want to go live out right now to Napa Vail.

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Speaker 2: Are we Napa Sonoma? Where do we find you?

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Speaker 3: Sir?

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Speaker 2: Is the great z there?

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Speaker 3: I'm here? What's going on? Brother?

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Speaker 2: Where do we find you? Are you Napa Sonoma?

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Speaker 4: We are actually in Fieldsburg, which Isoma Ta. Yeah, we're

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Speaker 4: in Sonoma. We're having the time of our lives. Not

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Speaker 4: Pedro and his elements thriving, walking around dropping his industry card,

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Speaker 4: you know, as he works at Dante Robert. If he

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Speaker 4: drops his industry am in the biz is the industry

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Speaker 4: card spectacular well, at certain places it can get you

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Speaker 4: he you know, he loves that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's been good though.

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Speaker 4: He's he's really in his element. He gets the buddies

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Speaker 2: The key there, though, is on a tasting, and I've

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Speaker 2: done many of those. It's a short it's a short

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Speaker 2: It doesn't it's not necessarily an hour's upon hours situation.

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Speaker 4: No, no, And they're only around for the second, but

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Speaker 4: then really really impress them. But we'll have over the

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Speaker 4: course when I get back, we'll have we'll have muny

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Speaker 4: about the tripping, great many tales in great detail. But

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Speaker 4: so far it's been it's been great. And you know

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Speaker 4: what's funny is being out here on the West coast,

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Speaker 4: like on the Cow's played Sunday, right, they was game seven,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, right, so good?

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Speaker 3: Was great?

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Speaker 4: It was great. We actually watched it. We watched like

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Speaker 4: listening to you earlier. I'm with you. Just make these

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Speaker 4: I think you know, the Caves are massive underdogging, and

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Speaker 4: I think tonight's even it's I think it might be.

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Speaker 5: Twelve twelve on the spread.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, that's a large number in the Association in

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Speaker 4: the second round of the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: So you know, I think back to even New they

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Speaker 2: I just give me some power in the theater. One

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they Edwards is a beast.

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Speaker 2: Well, the other thing that's cool about him, dude, is

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Speaker 2: like he doesn't give a damn. I mean he's anybody's buddy.

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Speaker 4: No, No, he's out there. He's out there to dominate

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Speaker 4: set's incredible. I thought the TNT producers did an amazing

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Speaker 4: job when they were blowing them out going into halftime,

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Speaker 4: which is thought that was an incredible touch by the

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Speaker 5: The cap to them.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, he's good. And I'll tell you what this

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Speaker 4: is the one thing I came away from the Cavs

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Speaker 4: ton of cap space, And not that I'm like you,

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Speaker 4: I'm not that deep into the association, but yeah, Polo

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Speaker 2: Well, I agree with you they I was stunned by him,

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Speaker 4: So I would say, so far and it's been We've

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Speaker 3: And it was that was that was very cool.

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Speaker 4: Really, nothing nothing has kind of fallen short. To be

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Speaker 4: It's been a blast.

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Speaker 4: He's like, I sometimes I like to give fake names

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Speaker 4: You have like aliases?

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Speaker 4: He was so mad. He's like, I ended up doing it.

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Speaker 7: Is, well, we did, we did.

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Speaker 4: Note I can't wait.

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Speaker 2: When are you back? Are you back Thursday? I'm Thursday, Yes, sir, god,

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Speaker 2: that's gonna be an unbelievable show, the full recap, the debris.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna beoutful. But there Pedro and sewer are they're

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Speaker 2: Tiptoeing through the tu lips, my friend, No.

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Speaker 4: Doubt we're gonna have to. But it's been it's been

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Speaker 2: All right, buddy, Well, enjoy the rest of it and

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Speaker 2: Thank you for a mid trip briefing on where we stand.

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Speaker 4: Oh please, it's my pleasure. I will say this, it

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Speaker 2: You'll have a great time, I would say, even if

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Speaker 4: Yeah really anyway, yeah did it for sure?

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Speaker 3: Brother?

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Speaker 2: on this fine Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: Oh not too bad, sir.

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Speaker 2: Have you been I'm out here living? You know, I

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Speaker 2: We're a little bit removed from the draft at this point.

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Speaker 2: Let's start here with this Browns team, a third straight

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Speaker 3: I thought that they pretty much maximized what they could

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Speaker 3: But I still think you know, getting Michael Hall in

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Speaker 3: And then you go pull off another Amari Cooper deal

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00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,520
Speaker 3: by getting Jerry Judy. You bought low, you sent well,

436
00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,639
Speaker 3: you know, day three picks to a team that didn't

437
00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,040
Speaker 3: want the guy anymore and had to get rid of

438
00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,119
Speaker 3: him for one reason or another, and you hope to

439
00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,240
Speaker 3: maximize it, and you locked him up already, you know,

440
00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:41,959
Speaker 3: kind of betting on his future at at a rate

441
00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,080
Speaker 3: that should be affordable. So I thought, it's all great planning,

442
00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,679
Speaker 3: and the only thing that really will make a difference is,

443
00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,040
Speaker 3: you know production. You know, does Jerry Judy end up

444
00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,080
Speaker 3: panning out? I think honestly he will because if you

445
00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,840
Speaker 3: consider the circumstances that he played under in Denver, we

446
00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,320
Speaker 3: know the carousel they dealt with the quarterback over the

447
00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,639
Speaker 3: course of his career, and really since Peyton Manning retired,

448
00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,000
Speaker 3: they have not found any stability at the position, so

449
00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,800
Speaker 3: you kind of can't hold that against him. And he

450
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,880
Speaker 3: was still pretty productive even with the rotation at the position.

451
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,640
Speaker 3: It's just that he did have times where he would

452
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,440
Speaker 3: disappear in games. But I blame that as much on

453
00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,000
Speaker 3: the offensive system and the turnover and the churn between

454
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,399
Speaker 3: coaches and quarterbacks and everything else than anything else. And

455
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,080
Speaker 3: I hope that some stability and the offensive mind of

456
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,520
Speaker 3: Kevin Stefanski and Ken Dorseyer are going to be able

457
00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,840
Speaker 3: to help him unlock a new level because, again, like

458
00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,679
Speaker 3: you said, first round pick, this is the kid that

459
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,200
Speaker 3: I think Browns fans wanted when he came out of college,

460
00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,440
Speaker 3: and now look, he's on your roster and it didn't

461
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,600
Speaker 3: cost you that much. So I know a lot of

462
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,280
Speaker 3: people were freaking out about the extension when it happened,

463
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:40,800
Speaker 3: but I'm fine with it. I'm fine with it because

464
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,120
Speaker 3: if you break it down the year by year, it's

465
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 3: really not that expensive. And if he plays well as

466
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Speaker 3: they expect him to, then they're gonna look like genius

467
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 3: is a couple of years from now.

468
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Speaker 2: They're betting that they're right on him. It's kind of

469
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,720
Speaker 2: that simple. They're betting he will play to his talent.

470
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 2: They're betting that he will play to what he was

471
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,080
Speaker 2: evaluated at coming out of Alabama, and they're betting on

472
00:20:58,200 --> 00:20:59,720
Speaker 2: all of the things that you just said were the

473
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Speaker 2: reasons that it hadn't happened in Denver. They're also betting

474
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,080
Speaker 2: on this, well they know this, but they're betting on

475
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,200
Speaker 2: this based on their roster decision, that this offense is

476
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,359
Speaker 2: going to look very, very different than it has in

477
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 2: previous years. You mentioned Ken Dorsey coming in here, You're

478
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 2: going to play primarily out of the gun. You're going

479
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,919
Speaker 2: to play primarily with just one back, Nick Chubb. We

480
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 2: god willing he comes back and can be some sort

481
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,159
Speaker 2: of version of what he was in the past, but

482
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,719
Speaker 2: it's a long road on that and there's so much uncertainty.

483
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 2: This offense is going to look wildly different than it

484
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 2: did a year ago, which is something we're not going

485
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 2: to really be able to get a real feel for

486
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 2: it until we get into whatever we get into. Maybe

487
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 2: you know, the mandatory mini camp a little bit of

488
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,679
Speaker 2: a feel, but it really won't be until next fall

489
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 2: that we get a real look at what Kevin Stefanski

490
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 2: was kind of going for here with this offense. But

491
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,680
Speaker 2: even from your vantage point, Shook, this is going to

492
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 2: be this is a major flip of philosophy for Stefanski

493
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,120
Speaker 2: and for this offense, all with a position of making

494
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Speaker 2: Watson be at his best.

495
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Speaker 3: Yeah, because you know we're now going to year three

496
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 3: and it's put up a shut up time. You've got

497
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 3: to really make sure that he's in an advantageous position

498
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 3: where you can maximize his talents because to this point

499
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 3: you have not gotten the return on an investment that

500
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 3: you anticipated in that last year. I thought we were

501
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 3: about to turn the corner before he suffered a shoulder injury.

502
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 3: But now you know, it's proving time, and so you

503
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 3: have to kind of set it up to where he can,

504
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 3: you know, behead of his best and and then it

505
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,159
Speaker 3: comes down to whether he plays well or not. So

506
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 3: I like the moves, I like the wather you set up,

507
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 3: and really, you know, I think about I envisioned the offense.

508
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 3: I think about a third down situation where Nick Chub's

509
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 3: not even on the field, and that's totally fine because

510
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 3: you've got Elijah Moore, Jerry Judy and Amari Cooper out there.

511
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,919
Speaker 3: You got David Joku out there, who's now you know,

512
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,120
Speaker 3: beloved in Cleveland. And then I'm thinking third down back.

513
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 3: You got nahem Heinz back there, great returner, right, but

514
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 3: also a great pass catching back. That's five weapons, five

515
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,880
Speaker 3: legitimate weapons in that offense in a third down situation.

516
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,679
Speaker 3: And so you know, Watson has no excuses, and if

517
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 3: he delivers, then again they're going to look like geniuses.

518
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 3: It's just a matter of whether they deliver.

519
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's gonna be. That's why this offseason, honestly, it's

520
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 2: so much simil or to last for us. I mean,

521
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,120
Speaker 2: it's your kind of last year you were coming off

522
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 2: of he hadn't played much because of the suspension. This

523
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 2: time it was he hadn't played much because he got hurt.

524
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 2: And so until you see it, that's when the proof

525
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 2: will kind of be on all of that. As we

526
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 2: go around the AFC North, Let's let's kind of go

527
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 2: team by team and let's start with the draft and

528
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 2: kind of how you viewed them. How did you rate

529
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 2: the drafts of the other AFC North teams? Did they

530
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 2: address the things that they needed to?

531
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought the Steelers had probably the best off

532
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 3: season of any team in the NFL, which I know

533
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 3: is going to pain people in Cleveland. I get it,

534
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 3: because you know, you don't want the Steelers to come

535
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 3: out on top, right, I understand, But I mean Omar

536
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 3: Khan deserves a couple of gold stars for the way

537
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 3: that he really rebuilt the quarterbacks room. Now you know,

538
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 3: you could say, hey, Russell Wilson's over the hill. I

539
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 3: don't disagree. I don't think he's ever going to be

540
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 3: the guy that he was in Seattle. But the addition

541
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 3: of Justin Fields was so savvy cost them basically nothing.

542
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 3: It was a great capitalization of an opportunity there by

543
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 3: Omar Con and then he goes into the draft and

544
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 3: he says, you know what, Look, we know what our

545
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,199
Speaker 3: weakness was last years. It was offensive lines. What am

546
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 3: I going to do? I'm doubling down at tackle. I

547
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 3: spent a first round pick on a tackle last year.

548
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 3: I'm spending my first round pick on one of the

549
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 3: best tackles in this class that's still available in Troy Fatanu.

550
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 3: And then he goes to center in the second round

551
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,640
Speaker 3: was Zach Fraser out of West Virginia, a kid who

552
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 3: played college ball not too far away from Pittsburgh. And

553
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 3: then he goes again with an offensive guard in round

554
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 3: four with Mason McCormick from South Dakota State. If there's

555
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 3: one way that you speak to my heart, and you

556
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 3: know this quite well, it's going to the trenches and

557
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 3: it's investing in the offensive line. And Omar Khn certainly

558
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 3: did that. And I also really liked what they did

559
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 3: in round three. I think Browns fans are going to

560
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 3: come to hate Roman Wilson because he's a stud receiver.

561
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 5: He was a studded.

562
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 3: Michigan He was a thorn in the side of Ohio

563
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 3: State for the years that he was a nan arbor,

564
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 3: and I think he's gonna be the same thing with

565
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,159
Speaker 3: the Steelers. He's a really good compliment to George Pickens

566
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 3: in the way that they've kind of rebuilt that receiver

567
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 3: room and moved on from Deontay Johnson. You know, essentially

568
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 3: this franchise as a whole this year when the offense

569
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 3: and said, look, we're done with the nonsense, We're done

570
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 3: with catering to you know, so and so, and deciding

571
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 3: that we're going to get back to Steels football. We're

572
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 3: going to start in the trenches. We're going to redo

573
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 3: our quarterback room.

574
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Speaker 4: We're gonna get a.

575
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,120
Speaker 3: Receiver who's got a lot of potential, and we're gonna

576
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 3: build this out the way we've done it in the past.

577
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 3: And so I commend them. Peyton Wilson, the linebacker, you know,

578
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 3: I look at it and I think, yeah, you know,

579
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 3: people are concerned about his knee because you know, the

580
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 3: the injuries you know there and everything else. But at

581
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 3: the same time, the kid ran an incredible forty. He's

582
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 3: got fantastic range, and I just envisioned a third down

583
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 3: scenario in which they use him like they used to

584
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 3: use Troy Polamalu, which is just like a missile of

585
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 3: a blitzer, you know, from the a gap or you know,

586
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 3: over the top, that type of thing. He could be

587
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 3: a three down back. He's not the biggest and three

588
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 3: down linebackers. He can be a defender who's there on

589
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 3: every you know, key down. He's at the biggest guy,

590
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 3: but I think he's got the range to really succeed.

591
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 3: And they rebuilt their linebacker room. I mean I'm looking

592
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 3: at their depth chart and they got Cole hulkom in

593
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 3: the two deep. Cole HULKLM might have been their best

594
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,120
Speaker 3: linebacker last year, so they got a lot of depth there.

595
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 3: So I thought they did a great job. And then

596
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 3: when you go over to Baltimore, interesting draft for them.

597
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,479
Speaker 3: You know, their team that usually stacks up a lot

598
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 3: of picks, and they had a decent amount, but not

599
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 3: as many as usual. But I thought they did a

600
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 3: good job as well. They got a B plus from me,

601
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 3: right behind the Steelers getting an A. The Browns also

602
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 3: got a B plus. Nate Wiggins is a corner who's

603
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 3: very fast, who ran a really fast forty at the

604
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 3: combine He's kind of slight when it comes to his frame,

605
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 3: doesn't have a lot of weight on him, so I'm

606
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 3: curious to see how that translates to the next level.

607
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 3: But then they go get a tackle the play opposite

608
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 3: Ronnie Stanley and Roger Rosengarten from Washington. I think that

609
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 3: was a big move for them to shore that up.

610
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 3: And tes Walker former Kent State guy who transit in

611
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 3: North Carolina. We all know about the issues he had

612
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 3: with the NCAA and then ruling ineligible and then ineligible

613
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,719
Speaker 3: and then eligible again. I think he fits into that

614
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 3: receiver room well, as they kind of transform their offense

615
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 3: into a unit that can actually fill the football after

616
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 3: you know, relying on the on the ground game for

617
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 3: so many years. So I like what they did in

618
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 3: the first few rounds there as well. And Cincinnati, you

619
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 3: know they got They ended up writing the same range

620
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 3: of grades with b Flus and I feel like I

621
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 3: was soft on grades. But again, draft grades to me

622
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 3: are kind of a fruitless exercise because we really need

623
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 3: two or three years to judge this. But I thought

624
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 3: they addressed their needs well. You know, they went and

625
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 3: got a tackle to Marius Min's They go get a

626
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 3: d tackle in Chris Jenkins to replace DJ Reader. They

627
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 3: go get Jermaine Burt, who was the kid who made

628
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 3: the big play you know, in the Iron Bowl, and

629
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 3: at receiver and that was what they needed after letting

630
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 3: Tyler Boyd go. You know, they have a little bit

631
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 3: of attrition there and they replaced him accordingly. They go

632
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 3: get another tight end. They love to stock up on

633
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 3: tight ends with Eric All from Iowa and a tight

634
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 3: end class that I don't think was the strongest class,

635
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 3: but we'll see if that pans out. And then they

636
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 3: get Daniel Jeremiah's favorite tight end of the whole class,

637
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 3: Tanner McLachlan in the sixth round. So we'll see if

638
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,719
Speaker 3: we end up looking back on this class and think, man,

639
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 3: they really found some gems, but they addressed what they

640
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 3: needed to do, I think starting in the trenches and

641
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 3: adding another receiver, and as long as Joe Burrow is healthy,

642
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 3: I mean they're going to be a contender. I think

643
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 3: somebody asked me last week who what the toughest division

644
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 3: in football was, and I said, with out of doubt,

645
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 3: it's the AFC North. It's not even close. Because if

646
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 3: the Bengals have a healthy Joe Burrow, and the offseason

647
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 3: that all these teams had. Every team can win this division.

648
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 3: Every team is a legitimate contender, and that's that's a

649
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 3: bear of a division going into a season. So I

650
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 3: thought they all did pretty well, and they kind of,

651
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 3: you know, maintained, they helped serve you know, part for

652
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 3: the course here with the North is gonna be one

653
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 3: of the toughest divisions in football. Again, well, I.

654
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Speaker 2: Think furthermore, if you were to ask anybody in any

655
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 2: of these forefront offices, do you think he'd win the

656
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 2: Super Bowl? They would all say yes, all yeah, and

657
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 2: I would agree they think they're all there. But now

658
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 2: there are questions. Let's go through these. Let's start. You

659
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 2: mentioned Burrow at the end there. He's played four seasons.

660
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 2: In the two he's healthy, he has reached the AFC

661
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 2: Championship Game and won the AFC Championship Game and reached

662
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. The other two he's missed giant chunks

663
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 2: of time with season ending injuries. I saw him throwing

664
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 2: down there. I've seen the video of him throwing down there.

665
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,239
Speaker 2: He's starting to get back in it and he's got

666
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 2: a sleeve on his arm. Is it fair to me,

667
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 2: it feels like it is to question his availability because

668
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 2: half the time he hasn't been there.

669
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Speaker 3: Well, why don't we study history to avoid repeating the

670
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 3: same mistakes, right, Yeah, So the hope is that he

671
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Speaker 3: stays healthy. I think it's totally fair. I think it's

672
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 3: absolutely fair to question that because until he proves that

673
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 3: he can strain together three seasons of healthy football, we'll

674
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 3: continue to ask that question. But I don't hold it

675
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 3: against him like I do other quarterbacks because he's young,

676
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 3: because he suffered a knee injury as a rookie behind

677
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 3: a bad offensive line on a bad team, and then

678
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 3: came back like, you know, like a monster in the

679
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 3: next two years, before suffering two injuries last year. It

680
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 3: just felt like last year, just as they were getting going,

681
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 3: they just couldn't get out of the gates. Something would

682
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 3: always undercut them, because you know, when he had that

683
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 3: game in Arizona, that quiet first month where everyone's asking,

684
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 3: you know, he's clearly not healthy, what are they going

685
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 3: to do. Suddenly he's healthy again and they look just

686
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 3: as good as they did the year before, and everyone's like,

687
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 3: watch out for the Bengals, they're coming. And then he

688
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 3: suffers the injury and it ends before it really gets going. Now,

689
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 3: if he can strain it all together and played the

690
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 3: full season, then yeah, they're right there. And but it's

691
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 3: gonna take a few years I think before he can

692
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 3: shed that title of injury prone just because of the

693
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 3: history he's had so far. It's totally fair. Yeah, but

694
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 3: that's part of why we play the games, is just

695
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 3: you know, let them prove it one way or another.

696
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 2: In Baltimore, you mentioned their draft, yet it is a

697
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 2: B plus. They had major changes to their roster. Obviously,

698
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 2: Derek Henry comes in and they're thinking that that can

699
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 2: be a big boon to their run game. But they

700
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 2: were pretty good last year with their backs if you

701
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 2: combine them all together. I don't know if Henry will

702
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 2: exceed that. Their banking that he will. Obviously, they remade

703
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 2: their defensive staff as well. Are where are you in

704
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: the what the Ravens have done When you look at

705
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 2: their offseason in totality, this is a team that was

706
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 2: in the AFC Championship Game a year ago trying to

707
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 2: go a step further. Did they make enough hey this

708
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 2: offseason to do that?

709
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Speaker 3: You know, I think if it was another team, I'd

710
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 3: be more concerned because they did have a good amount

711
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 3: of turnover. But this is also a team that routine

712
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 3: league drafts guys that are you know, day two picks

713
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 3: and develop them into studs and then let them walk

714
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Speaker 3: and take the comp picks, you know, as they go

715
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Speaker 3: somewhere else in free agency. I think about Matt Judon

716
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Speaker 3: being one of those guys and just restock. You know.

717
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 3: I'm not quite going to say reload like you're in

718
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 3: Ohio State, for example, but they come pretty close to

719
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Speaker 3: that at the NFL level because of, you know, the

720
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 3: continuity they have organizationally. Now, they did have a lot

721
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Speaker 3: of change in their defensive staff, but that's what happens

722
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 3: when you win. The teams come and take your coaches.

723
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Speaker 3: So that is the question mark more than anything for them.

724
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 3: It's health and that was what has kind of doomed

725
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 3: them the last couple of years prior to this past season.

726
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Speaker 3: But you know, twenty twenty two and twenty twenty one,

727
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 3: it was health and they had a ton of injuries

728
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 3: on defense. They had a ton of injuries in the

729
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 3: running back room. So I give them credit for hitting

730
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 3: the reset button on the running back room ball keeping.

731
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 3: You know, the young kids with potential to Keaton Mitchell

732
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 3: and Justice Hills of the world are still on the roster.

733
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 3: You add in Henry as a bellhow back, I expect

734
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 3: to see all three of those guys play a significant role.

735
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Speaker 3: You know, you address offensive line with Rosengarden at right tackle,

736
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 3: and so I still feel pretty good about them. I

737
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 3: probably feel best about them. The fact that Zay Flowers

738
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 3: broke out last year the Rashod Bateman extension was a

739
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 3: little bit curious to me, but I think overall, you know,

740
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 3: they're they're deep enough that they'll be able to prove

741
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 3: that they were right. And so just again it comes

742
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 3: down to health for them, because as long as Lamar

743
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 3: is healthy and they got enough contributors of both says

744
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 3: the ball, they're going to be a tough out, just

745
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 3: because this is a team that has proven over the

746
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 3: last decade that they're always going to be a tough

747
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 3: out even when they have injuries. I'm curious though, because look,

748
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 3: Tyler Huntley, you know, whether we want to acknowledge it

749
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 3: or not, he's in brown orange now and he was

750
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Speaker 3: a big part of keeping that team afloat over the

751
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 3: last two years. And Lamar did get hurt Now, Lamar

752
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 3: didn't get hurt last year, but if he does, god forbid,

753
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 3: they might find themselves in a tough spot. So I'm

754
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 3: curious to see if that does happen. But otherwise, if

755
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 3: he's healthy, they're going to be a tough out too.

756
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Speaker 2: All right, let's do the Steelers part. How do you

757
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 2: think I'm not asking how they should how do you

758
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 2: think they will handle the quarterbacks? They're both here, both

759
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 2: bargain basement, neither is confirmed for next year. Don't they

760
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 2: have to at least Seafields play the position. Yeah, I

761
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 2: know all the talk about him in the return game,

762
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: but don't they have to see it.

763
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Speaker 3: The return game thing, by the way, is insane. That

764
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 3: is a product of talking in late April early May.

765
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 3: As soon as I saw that float and I was

766
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 3: prompted to write about it, I even included in the

767
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 3: post that I wrote about it. I was just like,

768
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 3: this is insane, Like, let's not take this with like

769
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 3: ten grains assault because lestically, I don't care if the

770
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 3: kick off format has changed or not. You don't put

771
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Speaker 3: your quarterback as a return of theount, no matter how

772
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 3: good of a runner he is. But I totally agree

773
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 3: that at some point you have to see justin field.

774
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Speaker 3: I don't know how they're going to handle it. I've

775
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 3: tried to listen to a number of different people who

776
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 3: are informed to different degrees in the situation. You know,

777
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 3: I had a long talk with one of their assistants,

778
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 3: you know, in Indie, right before all these trades went down,

779
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 3: and at the time it was just, you know, Kenny

780
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 3: Pickett's got to prove it this year, and now he's

781
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 3: gone and they've remade the whole room. So it's really

782
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 3: hard to get a read on it because logically, you think,

783
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 3: all right, Russ enters Camp is QB one. He probably

784
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 3: comes out as QB one. But if he struggles you

785
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 3: go to fields. Now, that's not an ideal situation. You

786
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 3: don't go in there and think, all right, we're ready

787
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 3: to pull the plug and pull them out of there,

788
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,479
Speaker 3: like a starter having a bad day in baseball at

789
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 3: the first sign of trouble. You know, usually you want

790
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 3: a little bit more consistency. But Russell Wilson has proven

791
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 3: to us over the last few years that he can't

792
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 3: really be counted on. He had a decent middle of

793
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 3: last season and they were in playoff contention when they

794
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 3: decided to ben him to you know, protect themselves financially

795
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 3: in Denver. I don't know if he's going to be

796
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 3: any better. I mean, the offensive line is built for

797
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 3: him to be better, and the weapons are built for

798
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 3: him to be better, and the culture is built for

799
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 3: him to be better. But at the same time, he's

800
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 3: not getting any younger, and so I think at one

801
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 3: point we're going to see Fields. Now. The question that

802
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 3: I've seen a lot is who's gonna play more games?

803
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 3: And that one I have no idea because that totally

804
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 3: depends on the trajectory of their season. And if any

805
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 3: team is good at overcoming early struggles, it's the Steelers.

806
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 3: And if that does happen those early struggles, they might

807
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 3: overcome them with Justin Fields on the field, and then

808
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,720
Speaker 3: they left their quarterback for the long term, and Browns

809
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,439
Speaker 3: fans here are gonna be very angry for a long

810
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 3: time that he ended up being black and gold, which

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00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 3: you know, when the whole Austin started, I was like,

812
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 3: back in my head, I'm like, man, it would be

813
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 3: a really nice backup option for the Browns, Like they

814
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 3: should really kick the tires on that. But so to

815
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 3: them go to Pittsburgh. I was like, of course, and

816
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 3: if he pans out, of course, we'll be sitting there

817
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 3: and going, I can't believe we let this happen. You know,

818
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 3: we can't let them keep getting away with this, right.

819
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Speaker 3: But at the same time, I understand. So I think

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Speaker 3: that I think we're going to see Fields the back

821
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 3: half of the season if the Steelers are looking forward.

822
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Speaker 3: But a lot of it depends on where they are

823
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Speaker 3: in the season, whether they're in contention or not. It

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00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 3: just feels like Russell Wilson's a short term fixed right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but Z and I called him to Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: as soon as this became obvious. He's gonna end up

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Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh somehow. That's the way it's gonna go. We're

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Speaker 2: talking Field Fields. Yeah, just knew it. We knew it

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Speaker 2: as soon as he became.

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Speaker 3: The same thought. And then if the picket trade happens,

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Speaker 3: I text my buddy and it's just taking its trades Afhilly,

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Speaker 3: I go, Fields is going to Pittsburgh. Give it twenty

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Speaker 3: four hours. It only took him about eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Always great catching up with you, my friend, and encourage

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Speaker 2: Great stuff is always my friend. Always enjoy talking to you.

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862
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 4: great to see dude.

863
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 8: How have you been, man, I've been amazing. It's great

864
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 8: to see you too.

865
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's go back a few years to the draft

866
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 4: because that's what's coming up right now. First round pick

867
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 4: out of Northwestern. Do you remember kind of that process

868
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 4: and then what it was like to actually hear your

869
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 4: name called and knowing that you were a first round

870
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 4: pick in the National Football League.

871
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 9: Yeah, man, the process was I would say it was well.

872
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 9: I started off kind of lower. Talked to some teams

873
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 9: coming out as a junior. They were like some teams

874
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 9: were like, yeah, fifth round pick, fourth round pick. I

875
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 9: had some obviously first round grades is why I left. Sure,

876
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 9: but everyone thought I was going to run like for

877
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 9: six so that was the reason. But teams were like,

878
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 9: if you run into four fours, you'll be a first

879
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 9: round pick, so I was like, I know I'm gonna

880
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 9: get that done. And hearing my name called when you

881
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 9: know it's going to get called at some point, it's

882
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 9: still so nerve wracking.

883
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 8: It was really my parents.

884
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 9: Honestly, my mom was sitting there, the one that's staring

885
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 9: at the phone.

886
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 8: I was having fun, chilling.

887
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 9: Just being around everybody, but man, when my name was oh,

888
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 9: it was the most unbelievable moment in my life.

889
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 4: So, your mom was looking at the phone, so obviously

890
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 4: a number from Maria comes up, and but she like,

891
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 4: it's the Browns.

892
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 6: Did you know it was the Browns?

893
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 9: So I kind of got actually, so this is what happened.

894
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 9: My agent actually texted my mom was like, did Greg

895
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 9: get the call yet? And I seen it okay, so

896
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 9: like it was like a few picks before. I'm like,

897
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 9: so I know it's coming up soon. I actually am

898
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 9: kind of a little mad for that because I wanted

899
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 9: to be more. But like I seen the text. I

900
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 9: looked down. It was my agent text my mom he

901
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 9: get the call yet and I didn't, So then I

902
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 9: seen I think it was picked twenty four at the time,

903
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 9: so I was like, it's definitely Cleveland.

904
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 8: So I was I was super excited.

905
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 4: Did you know kind of going through that the Browns

906
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 4: had a great deal of interest in you kind of?

907
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 9: I told AB, I was like, I feel like I

908
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 9: didn't even talk to you guys that much.

909
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 8: Honestly.

910
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 6: He probably said that was by design.

911
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 9: Yeah, he said it was by design, like they were

912
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 9: just trying to not be too like, not show the

913
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 9: league it was they were too high on me and

914
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 9: things like that. But I talked to Jimmy and them

915
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 9: before and AB and it it went b lynch, but

916
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 9: everything went great.

917
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 4: So it's like a life changing moment. And it's something

918
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 4: that you know, very few people certainly get to experience

919
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 4: being called a first round draft pick in the National

920
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 4: Football League. Was that something that you once you got

921
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 4: that call, that you said, okay, I want to go

922
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 4: out and prove that they were right.

923
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, for sure, especially you know this organization for taking

924
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 9: a chance on me. I definitely wanted to prove them right.

925
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 9: I also prove myself right. I also thought I was

926
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 9: going a little bit earlier, honestly, so I already had

927
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 9: that chip on my shoulder, like already from being picked

928
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 9: not that late, because it was still first round, but

929
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 9: being picked later in the first round, I already had

930
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 9: a chip on my shoulder right away.

931
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 4: I remember getting to talk to you the night that

932
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 4: you were drafted. What would you sitting here right now?

933
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 4: What do you wish you could have said to you

934
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 4: that got drafted that night. Now that you've been in

935
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 4: the league, you've got that experience. What's something that you

936
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 4: wish you knew maybe coming out as a as that you.

937
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 6: Know, very excited, very eager first round pick.

938
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it's just to keep your confidence. I

939
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 9: would say that right away. Things won't go well all

940
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 9: the time, but you know at certain times they will,

941
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 9: especially coming from a smaller school like mine. It's not

942
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 9: like an Ohio State or something where fans are already

943
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 9: you know, like like onto those guys in college. I

944
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 9: kind of had to get used to that because I

945
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 9: had such a small thing. You know, I couldn't do

946
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 9: anything wrong at Northwesterns. But you know, going into a

947
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 9: bigger fan base and things like that, you kind of

948
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 9: got to know when when to like, you know, chill

949
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 9: on certain things or when to speak up. So I

950
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 9: would say, just to keep your confidence and everything will

951
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 9: work out as long as you continue to work hard.

952
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 4: What was it like for you last year having legitimately

953
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 4: a great friend from Northwestern cam Mitchell be drafted onto

954
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 4: the roster.

955
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 9: It was unbelievable. I told him I was. I was

956
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 9: in Miami with my one of my closest friends, Jaden Reed,

957
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 9: got drafted, so I was at his draft party. I

958
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 9: was sitting in the hotels, like, let me turn on

959
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 9: the draft and seeing the Cleveland Browns up, I see

960
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 9: dB Northwestern camp. I was like, Oh, there's no way,

961
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 9: and it was like the most unbelievable, you know moment.

962
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 9: I look at him as a little brother. We grew

963
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 9: up together all the way from Little League, all the

964
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 9: way up until high school.

965
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 8: In college.

966
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 9: You know, when I got drafted, I gifted him the

967
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 9: number two at Northwestern, so he switched his numbers.

968
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 8: So to see it all come full circle, it was.

969
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 8: It was unbelievable.

970
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 4: The chances of it happening are probably pretty small, and

971
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 4: you had to think about, you know, last year we'll

972
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 4: talk about some of your big plays, but he made

973
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 4: some big plays as a rookie. I think in the

974
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 4: game against Chicago, he doesn't trip up justin fields. Who

975
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 4: knows if we win that game, that's got to be

976
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 4: pretty cool to see him come along and then that

977
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 4: guys get to be out there on the field at times,

978
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 4: even together.

979
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 9: Yeah, No, it's unbelievable. He's you know, he's a heck

980
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 9: of a player. I'm surprised he was still there. Honestly,

981
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 9: I thought he was going to be a lot But

982
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 9: you know, I feel like ab finds the way to

983
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 9: always just get some great dbs.

984
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 6: He's pretty good at it.

985
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, that just you know, fell a little further than,

986
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 9: you know, now what most people would expect. You know,

987
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 9: guy like Martin, I think that if you could redraft,

988
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 9: you'd probably been picked in.

989
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 8: The top ten.

990
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,439
Speaker 9: You know, Camp draft picked for sure, another guy who

991
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 9: would have been picked a lot earlier.

992
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 8: So I'm as definitely great to get him on the

993
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 8: team too.

994
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 4: When you think back to last year, I know it

995
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,959
Speaker 4: was you wanted to get that interception and you did,

996
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 4: and your first one was pretty darn special. When you

997
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 4: think back about pick six against Baltimore, all of that,

998
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 4: what was kind of the emotions you had at the time,

999
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 4: And that was a game that while we probably came

1000
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 4: out of that thinking we were going this direction, we

1001
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 4: knew that obviously there was a different plan and we

1002
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 4: had to go due to injury another direction. But that

1003
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 4: was a game that I feel like really got this

1004
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 4: team ready to be the team that could go eleven

1005
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 4: and six.

1006
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 6: And your pick six was massive.

1007
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1008
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 8: No, I was unbelievable.

1009
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 9: I told him, Man, I kind of felt like I

1010
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 9: just blacked out, like when I got when I caught

1011
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 9: it and got an end zone, like we had a plan,

1012
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 9: dance and everything I had. I'll go into what I

1013
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 9: was doing, but it was just unbelievable. I told Obo.

1014
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 9: I was like, still got to take him to dinner still,

1015
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 9: but I was like, man, whatever you need, I got you. Yeah,

1016
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 9: because it was just such unbelievable moment. And you know,

1017
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 9: especially in a big game, you know, it's always good

1018
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 9: to you know, get your first career against you know,

1019
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 9: maybe you're up forty, but in a crucial moment, you know,

1020
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 9: in a crucial drive in the game, I felt like

1021
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 9: it was amazing.

1022
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 4: It was awesome. And now here you go coming into

1023
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 4: the twenty twenty four season. You look around your room,

1024
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 4: a lot of familiar faces. You look at the back

1025
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 4: end of this defense, it's basically the same five guys

1026
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 4: that were there a year ago, you go up to

1027
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 4: the front.

1028
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 6: They all wanted to come back.

1029
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 4: What does that kind of tell you about the culture,

1030
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,720
Speaker 4: And you've probably seen a little bit of an evolution

1031
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 4: of that culture in your time here, that this is

1032
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 4: a place that everybody wants to be.

1033
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it just starts with just how much

1034
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,919
Speaker 9: fun we have. I know everyone sees it on the field,

1035
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 9: like we're dancing, just having fun, enjoying each other's presence,

1036
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 9: like we're always hanging out. You see guys from year

1037
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 9: one to now, I see so many more guys just

1038
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 9: sitting around the building after Normally it's like one of

1039
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 9: those all right meetings over stay for maybe thirty minutes.

1040
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,720
Speaker 9: But now you see guys sitting there an hour, two hours,

1041
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 9: just being together with each other having fun. So I

1042
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 9: think that culture is I don't think there's a culture

1043
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 9: better in the National Football League.

1044
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 4: When you think about when you guys went to the

1045
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 4: Greenbrier last year, that helped kind of build that culture.

1046
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 4: Now you're going to have an opportunity to go back

1047
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 4: with that already in place. So I have to imagine

1048
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 4: this is something you guys are actually looking forward to.

1049
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean last year, at first I was like, coach, really,

1050
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 9: we got to go to this place. But then, you

1051
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 9: know when you see everything come full circle at the

1052
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 9: end of the season and see what we built just

1053
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 9: that quick to now, I'm just like, man, let's go back.

1054
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 9: Like I'm super excited to go back, especially that we

1055
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 9: are already so close and I just can't wait to

1056
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 9: see how close, you know, we get this season as well.

1057
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 6: What have you been up to this offseason?

1058
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:45,760
Speaker 9: Man, Been in Arizona where I stay out in Gilbert.

1059
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 9: My girlfriend's out there. I got a little girl on

1060
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 9: the way doing October.

1061
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:50,240
Speaker 6: Congratulations.

1062
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 8: Super excited about that.

1063
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 6: So it's gonna change your life, you know that.

1064
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 4: Doing that, it's gonna change your life and a great

1065
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 4: in all the best ways. What I remember when my

1066
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 4: daughter was born, proud girl, dad, Like, there's nothing like

1067
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 4: it Daysigo, It's nothing like it. That's awesome, man, Good

1068
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 4: for you. That's exciting. Plus, Arizona's a pretty great place to.

1069
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 8: Get amazing man, Yeah, yeah, amazing.

1070
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 6: That's my favorite place. My wife and I got married

1071
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 6: in Paradise Valley, Okay, yeah, yeah, I love it. We

1072
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 6: just went back for our fifth anniversary in February. Yeah, dude,

1073
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 6: love it out there. So that's good.

1074
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 4: You've been doing that keeping up on the Calves. Obviously,

1075
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 4: I would imagine we'll playoff run two and oh so far.

1076
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 8: Yeah I was. I went to the game Saturday.

1077
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I was there as well.

1078
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 9: Yeah, so it was great to see them. I keep

1079
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 9: saying it all the time. I was like, I feel

1080
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Speaker 9: like we kind of got parallels. Like, you know, they

1081
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 9: went to the playoffs their first time in a minute

1082
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Speaker 9: since Lebron and them left, and they didn't perform the

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00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 9: way they wanted to. But now they get a second

1084
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 9: shot at it, and I feel like they're doing an

1085
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 9: unbelievable job. So you know, hopefully that you know, comes

1086
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 9: with us as well as we proceee next season.

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Speaker 6: Did that leave a bad taste in a lot of

1088
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:48,399
Speaker 6: your mouth?

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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 9: Man, I told like after that game, I left Cleveland right,

1091
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 9: I didn't want to be around anybody.

1092
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 8: I didn't go to any Calves games.

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00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 9: I just went straight to Arizona and just kind of

1094
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 9: reflected on the season. You know, obviously it leaves a

1095
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 9: bad taste, but you know, you gotta look at everything positively.

1096
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 9: You know, we lost a lot of key guys, yes,

1097
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,720
Speaker 9: and for us to you know, get that far. Obviously

1098
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 9: we wish we would have got further, but it's always

1099
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 9: good for experience. You know, I didn't play the way

1100
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Speaker 9: I wanted to. I feel like a lot of the

1101
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 9: defense could say the same. So we definitely have a

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00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 9: chip going into into this season.

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Speaker 4: What do you think when you said you reflected on it,

1104
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 4: what did you learn from thinking back on that and

1105
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 4: that game in particular.

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00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, honestly, it's like the moment. Don't let the moment get.

1107
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 8: Too big first.

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00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 9: And while I say that is because you know, you

1109
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 9: try to say like every game is gonna it's a

1110
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 9: football game. Nah, playoff football game is completely different than

1111
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 9: the regular season. Football are very high, especially after you've

1112
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 9: beating the team before. And the crazy part is that game.

1113
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 9: I just feel like against the Houston Texans, we couldn't

1114
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 9: do anything wrong the first time, so trying to figure

1115
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 9: out what to get better at from that game is

1116
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 9: very hard when you we played a very sound game.

1117
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 9: So I would think it's just that just use the experience,

1118
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 9: grow upon it. And yeah, that would be the biggest

1119
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 9: thing I learned for sure.

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Speaker 4: When you hear Denzel say how important it is to him,

1121
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 4: and obviously there's a business aspect this as well, but

1122
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 4: to keep you and Denzel and MJ together so that

1123
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 4: you three can be kind of the backbone of this defense,

1124
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 4: the number one defense in the National Football League. When

1125
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 4: you hear a veteran who's been as accomplished and acclaimed

1126
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,439
Speaker 4: as Denzel say that, what does that mean to you?

1127
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 8: Man?

1128
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 9: It means the world because you know, I think the

1129
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 9: same way. I always say that, Man, I hope I

1130
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 9: can be here my whole entire career. I hope MJ's here,

1131
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 9: and Denzel obviously, like you said, it comes down to

1132
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 9: a lot of other stuff. But you know, if we

1133
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 9: can do anything to make your work, we will. We

1134
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 9: will take sacrifices for each other. That's what we do.

1135
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 9: We're brotherhood and we know you know, at the end

1136
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 9: of the day, a lot of all of our successes

1137
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 9: have a lot to do with the hard work we

1138
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 9: put in, yep, But it also has to do with

1139
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 9: the guys that we have on the field that you know,

1140
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 9: we could trust each other, so you know, they got grant.

1141
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 9: It's staying longer. That's amazing. You know, Denzel's obviously, so

1142
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 9: to keep us all together would be you know, unbelievable.

1143
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 4: It really would be awesome. What was what Jim Schwartz said,

1144
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 4: you guys when you guys got back.

1145
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 8: Man, what he pretty much said was last year's last year.

1146
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 9: We did a lot of great things, but it's time

1147
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 9: to set a new president and it's time to do

1148
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 9: it again and be even better. You know, on the road,

1149
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 9: we kind of did a thing versus home and on

1150
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 9: the road, and I think on the road we didn't

1151
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 9: play well the whole entire season, not just a playoff

1152
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 9: game obviously when it matters. It was just we didn't

1153
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 9: play well on the road. So it's kind of we

1154
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 9: got to figure out what.

1155
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 8: Do we need to do.

1156
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 9: Our home crowd is a big reason why we played,

1157
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,240
Speaker 9: no doubt home. They're the best fans in the world.

1158
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 9: So we kind of got to find a way to

1159
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 9: get our own energy.

1160
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 8: You know when we get on the road.

1161
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 4: I think part of it too, that I don't know

1162
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 4: that people would actually really think about, is if you

1163
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 4: think about at home, you've got that crowd noise, what

1164
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 4: does that mean? That means the offense is in a

1165
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 4: silent count. That allows for a better get off for

1166
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 4: the defense because you can kind of time that up

1167
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:54,760
Speaker 4: and so more pressure.

1168
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 6: It just creates issues.

1169
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 4: When you're on the road, you don't get the benefit

1170
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 4: of that anything, So you have to be a little

1171
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 4: bit more careful coming off the ball up front, which

1172
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 4: affects the pressures and affects all of those things. So

1173
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 4: not say that the split would be as big as

1174
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 4: it was, but it could be something. There's gonna be

1175
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 4: an impact. That's why teams a great defenses love being

1176
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 4: at home. You know, you can go back to the

1177
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 4: Legion of Boom, you go back some of those great

1178
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 4: Ravens defenses there. They are better at home because you

1179
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 4: get an advantage exactly.

1180
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Speaker 9: So yeah, we just trying to find a way that,

1181
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 9: like you said, it was so big of a gap,

1182
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 9: just try to, you know, minimize a gap obviously, like

1183
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 9: you said, when you're at home, I think you like

1184
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 9: the crowd. It has so much energy that you know

1185
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 9: that we get from the crowd. So it's definitely harder

1186
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 9: to play on the road. But you know, we just

1187
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 9: gotta find ways to just minimize that gap as best

1188
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 9: as we can.

1189
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 4: Get you out here on this one when you it

1190
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 4: feels to me anyway, there's like joy in this building,

1191
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,959
Speaker 4: you guys, being back around, which is I've never really

1192
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 4: felt that in April per se, what's something you want

1193
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 4: maybe to give the fans a little peek behind the curtain,

1194
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 4: just to know kind of about this team, where you

1195
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 4: guys are right now mentally, physically and in terms of

1196
00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 4: where your heads are at for what you want to

1197
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 4: do this season.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, starting with the mental aspect, I just feel like

1199
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Speaker 9: mentally we're all at such a great place right now.

1200
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 9: You know, after the season, we had time to see

1201
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 9: the things we did well, see the things we didn't.

1202
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,919
Speaker 9: But I just feel like when you see guys coming

1203
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 9: back this early, it normally doesn't happen. Like honestly, my

1204
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 9: last year to two years before that, I didn't come

1205
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 9: back to like May. Yeah, now guys want to be

1206
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 9: around the building. We see, Yeah, we're itching for that success.

1207
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 9: We're itching to get even closer to where we were.

1208
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 9: So I would say that's the mental the physical.

1209
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 8: Man.

1210
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 9: We're working so hard in there, like it's insane, Like

1211
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 9: we know we don't play for the next few months,

1212
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 9: but you would think we're preparing for a game tomorrow.

1213
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Speaker 5: I love it.

1214
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Speaker 9: That's how hard we're working, that's how hard we're competing.

1215
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 8: And I think we just knowing that we're right there.

1216
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 9: We finally tasted the playoffs, but you know, we're trying

1217
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 9: to take that next step as a team. So I

1218
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 9: think we're doing a great job right now. Saiding that precedent,

1219
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 9: let's go. Greg, always a pleasure talking man.

1220
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Speaker 2: Thanks for the time, Thank you, great stuff there was

1221
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 2: Zee and Greg Newsome. That defence the back end going

1222
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,759
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1223
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Speaker 2: next our general manager Andrew Berry on with Pat McAfee.

1224
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Speaker 2: Andrew Berry made the media round. This one always sets

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Speaker 2: itself apart. Here was ab on with Pat McAfee last Friday.

1241
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Speaker 10: Let's talk about your general manager this now, hey, this offseason,

1242
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 10: big one. We'd bring in Jerry Jody. Okay, it's a

1243
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 10: massive trade one. Another weapon for the offense? Is that

1244
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 10: the thought there and when you're doing these types of things,

1245
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 10: are you going with a full like team view? Is

1246
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 10: a player by player basis? How do you go about

1247
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 10: making your decisions?

1248
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,240
Speaker 7: Andrew, it's a little combination of both.

1249
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 11: I think as we looked into the offseason, you know,

1250
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 11: call it sixty five percent plus of the game is

1251
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 11: played in eleven personnel with three receivers. And you know,

1252
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 11: obviously our passing game, you know, last year went through

1253
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,720
Speaker 11: Amari Cooper and David and Joku, and we had traded

1254
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 11: for Elijah Moore, drafted Teed Tillman. But when Jerry was available,

1255
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 11: we felt like we could add a player that was

1256
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 11: a topknot separator in this league, had a diverse number

1257
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 11: of ways that he could produce, whether it's from the

1258
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 11: outside of the inside, vertically, and he really kind of

1259
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 11: fit the profile and skill set that we really wanted

1260
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 11: in our offense. So we looked at that as a

1261
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 11: great opportunity for us, and we were aggressive with trying

1262
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 11: to bring him in.

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00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,280
Speaker 10: Yeah, and you'll land them and a lot of people

1264
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 10: immediately go back to all the drama that potentially surrounded Jerry,

1265
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 10: Judy and Denver. Sometimes a new stop, new place is refreshing,

1266
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 10: especially with a city that wants it, you know. And

1267
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 10: like last year watching the Cleveland Browns fans the dog Pound,

1268
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 10: I experience that magical run with Flacco at the helm

1269
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 10: and then like what fifth string running back back there?

1270
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 10: And then the injuries that you had everywhere. It's like,

1271
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 10: as you're experiencing last year and your depth is being

1272
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 10: tested almost at every position, do you expect to go

1273
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 10: on the run that you go on and when you

1274
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 10: feel that from the Cleveland Dog Pound? Does that energize you?

1275
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 10: What is last year like for you and what do

1276
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 10: you learn from it going forward?

1277
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 11: Yeah, I'll be honest, last year was really special and

1278
00:53:55,360 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 11: it's honestly probably been. I'd say it's top one of

1279
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 11: my top two favorite seasons in my entire career, with

1280
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 11: the other one being twenty twelve. You know, going through

1281
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 11: that season, really playing for Chuck, you know, when he

1282
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 11: was diagnosed with cane, what the team did, and it

1283
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 11: was really cool because you're right, this is a really

1284
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 11: special city and a really special fan base.

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00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 7: They bleed brown and orange.

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00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 11: They've had the team taken away from them, and how

1287
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 11: they've embraced the Browns in Northeast Ohio really since they've

1288
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 11: been back and through a lot of hard times. Just

1289
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 11: to be truthful, it was. It was awesome. It was

1290
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 11: just like an awesome fall given how much adversity we face,

1291
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 11: but also like our coaching staff deserves a ton of credit.

1292
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 11: You know, we really took the mentality of like, Okay, hey,

1293
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 11: we're met with this new challenge or new problem with

1294
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 11: the roster week in and week out, and we had

1295
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 11: a coaching staff that didn't blink, We had a locker

1296
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 11: room that didn't blink, and they deserve a lot of credit.

1297
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 11: So it was an incredibly fulfilling run. It ended, you know,

1298
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 11: probably like all but one team, it ended a little

1299
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 11: bit too quickly, but you know it was.

1300
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:03,359
Speaker 7: It was a fantastic year.

1301
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 10: Okay, let's talk about that coaching staff that you just

1302
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 10: put over a little bit. Stefanski wins Coach of the

1303
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 10: Year again, I think. And where did he go to school?

1304
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 7: He went to Penn. He went to Penn.

1305
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 10: Ok.

1306
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, we don't. We don't like that school as much,

1307
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:17,800
Speaker 7: Pat Well whatever.

1308
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 10: There's a lot of those types of schools that are

1309
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 10: certainly in conversation pieces right now, but nonetheless yeah, yeah,

1310
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 10: it's good allowed, it's good allowed around the Ivyley, but

1311
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 10: like big brains over there, but seemingly no offense to

1312
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 10: you big brains. Okay, sometimes there's big brains that you know,

1313
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 10: can't change a light or like do anything else, or

1314
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 10: don't have a personality because there are not able to

1315
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 10: work with people because of how smart they are. It

1316
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 10: feels like you two, since day one have kind of

1317
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 10: been on the same page. Is that an accurate reading

1318
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 10: from outside in? Why do you think Stefanski has been

1319
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 10: so successful thus far?

1320
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 11: Yeah, it absolutely is, and it's probably more him than me,

1321
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 11: because Kevin is incredibly down to earth and he's He's

1322
00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:59,959
Speaker 11: very comfortable in his own skin. He's got a great

1323
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,720
Speaker 11: sense of humor that probably not enough people see.

1324
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 7: He's incredibly easy to work with.

1325
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 11: But you know, when I say easy to work with,

1326
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 11: that doesn't mean that he won't push or challenge, you know,

1327
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 11: whether it's players, coaches, or or myself. You know, in

1328
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 11: the in the general manager position, he'll he always speaks

1329
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 11: his mind and and ultimately he looks for and demands excellence.

1330
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 11: But he does that in a way where people know

1331
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 11: that he has their best interests at heart. And I

1332
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 11: think that's a big reason that, you know, our organization

1333
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 11: really follows him, and players would really.

1334
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 7: Run through a wall room.

1335
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,879
Speaker 11: It's it's no it's no coincidence that he's won Coach

1336
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 11: of the Year, you know, two out of his first

1337
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 11: four years, and he's still not even close to his ceiling.

1338
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 10: That's awesome to hear because obviously there's a bunch of drama,

1339
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,439
Speaker 10: you know, quarterback decisions that are being made, and then

1340
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 10: you don't know what you're going to get. And then

1341
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 10: we see that annual meetings, We hear that story where

1342
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 10: Kevin Stefanski goes, what's up o soup? Beckham Junior and

1343
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 10: that was after Odell had already left and had that

1344
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 10: whole scene. So it feels like he's been able to

1345
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:03,280
Speaker 10: manage a lot that's been through a lot in fantastic fashion.

1346
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,720
Speaker 10: Ton's got a question for you. He's a die hard

1347
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 10: Steelers fan, obviously.

1348
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 12: I am, but I respect the hell out of what

1349
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 12: you've actually done for that roster in that team. The

1350
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 12: city stinks, but you've done a great job. But you

1351
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 12: you brought in You brought in Downta Foreman in niney

1352
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 12: behinds who had two years ago had really really good seasons,

1353
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 12: great draft pick, and Jerome Ford.

1354
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 2: So like the running back room is stacked.

1355
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 12: But at the top there, okay, there was one guy

1356
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 12: at the top there with with Nick Chubb who had

1357
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 12: a unfortunate injury last season. Did you have to bring

1358
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 12: in all that other talent because Nick going to be back.

1359
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:37,959
Speaker 2: Is there an update on Nick?

1360
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 12: Because facing him is a is a very very very

1361
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 12: dangerous thing.

1362
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 11: Yeah, So you know Nick, first of all, you know,

1363
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 11: nobody wants to bet against Batman, right, we call him,

1364
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 11: We call him Batman here, and you know Nick, he

1365
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 11: is a special player and a special human being.

1366
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 7: He is doing well on his road to recovery.

1367
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 11: He's still has a long way to go because obviously

1368
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 11: it was a serious knee injury. But this past month

1369
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 11: he actually started running on on land. You know, It's

1370
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 11: interesting when he got hurt, he he didn't you know,

1371
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 11: he didn't rehab away from the CYS like, he really

1372
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 11: kept his routine as if he was still you know,

1373
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 11: preparing for a regular season game. And there really has

1374
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 11: been no off season with him. He he's very determined

1375
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 11: to get back. He's making good progress. You know, we're

1376
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 11: gonna take it, you know, kind of week by week,

1377
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 11: phase by phase. The next couple of months will be

1378
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 11: really important as he starts to increase, you know, the

1379
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 11: load on his knee. But you know, we are optimistic.

1380
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 11: We obviously expect him to play in twenty twenty four.

1381
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 11: I don't want to put any you know, firm timelines

1382
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 11: on it.

1383
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 10: Because there's yeah, yeah, give us a day.

1384
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 11: But but I'll tell you what, one of one of

1385
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 11: the one of the moments we're most looking forward to

1386
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 11: is when Nick Chubb runs out of that tunnel you know,

1387
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 11: for us for home game in twenty twenty four.

1388
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 7: I think it'll be a real special moment for the organization.

1389
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 7: And our fans.

1390
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 10: Yeah, not only you guys, but for NFL fans as well.

1391
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 10: He's fun to watch. He was phenomenal. That's why when

1392
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 10: he gets hurt, we all think to ourselves, well, this

1393
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 10: season's over because you guys were riding you're riding him

1394
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,919
Speaker 10: and instead you guys had to dodge, duck, dip, dive,

1395
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 10: and dodge your way through the rest of the year.

1396
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 10: At a lot of different positions. It was phenomenal to watch.

1397
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 10: One of them was a quarterback position. Let's talk. I

1398
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 10: haven't got a chance to chat with you. I don't

1399
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 10: think about it. Since the two hundred and thirty million

1400
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 10: dollar guaranteed deal with DeShawn Now, he had missed football. Obviously,

1401
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 10: everything that happens is another whole thing that could wear

1402
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:37,919
Speaker 10: on you, especially with the decisions, and you know that's

1403
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 10: on him. But I'm talking just strictly football here. He

1404
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 10: was away from the game for a long time. I

1405
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 10: wondered about rust and like, even as a punter, if

1406
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 10: I sat out of football for two years and I

1407
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 10: was just to go back, Like even in my position,

1408
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 10: I think my leg my body would take a little

1409
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 10: bit to kind of adjust, get and throw back in there.

1410
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 10: Are we at the point now where you think, like

1411
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 10: mentally physically football wise, Deshaun as caught up to the

1412
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 10: time that he potentially missed, And what are your expectations

1413
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 10: for him? Are we still trying to get back to

1414
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 10: form or you think this year is going to be

1415
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 10: the year after the injury where it's like we're going

1416
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 10: to see Deshaun Watson with what he was in Houston.

1417
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 7: No, we feel we feel very good about the about

1418
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 7: the transition. Pat.

1419
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 11: He's in a he's in a really good spot, you know,

1420
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 11: mentally physically obviously he's he's you know, he's been rehabbing

1421
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 11: the shoulder injury, but he's he's well on his way

1422
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 11: there and in a in a really really strong spot.

1423
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 8: You know.

1424
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 11: I I think he's a lot more comfortable within the organization.

1425
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 11: You know, we have a core group of guys on

1426
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 11: offense that that have now played together for a number

1427
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 11: of years, and you know, we do expect to hit

1428
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 11: the ground running, you know, on that side of the ball.

1429
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 11: And uh, I know he's very excited about you know,

1430
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 11: returning to the playing field and and and getting over

1431
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 11: this injury. And you know, we do have high expectations

1432
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 11: for you know, for him and and the offense this season.

1433
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 10: Did you know there was a chance that after missing

1434
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 10: that much football like this, might you know, like for

1435
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 10: just reality of the situation.

1436
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think you even look at it with you know,

1437
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 11: players who are coming back from serious injuries. You know,

1438
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 11: I don't think it's uncommon for there to be some

1439
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 11: transition or acclamation like that has to be in the

1440
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 11: realm of you know, the realm of possibility. But we

1441
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 11: still feel really good about Deshaun. We we you know,

1442
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 11: we like the trajectory that we've seen and we really

1443
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 11: do think that he's gonna have a big year.

1444
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 10: If he can get back fully to what he was.

1445
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 10: I mean, we saw it obviously with Houston and Indie

1446
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:36,439
Speaker 10: being two times a year, and then there's that clip

1447
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 10: of JJ walking off the field to Deshaun saying, I'm

1448
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 10: so sorry we wasted your like here, I think, but

1449
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 10: reality of situation. Guys that have been around were like, hey,

1450
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 10: you're away from ball, Like things move fast, you know,

1451
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 10: That's why the whole and I don't want to break

1452
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 10: but like Colin Kaepernick potentially coming back after like seven

1453
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 10: years away, I'm like, long time if he could mentally

1454
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 10: do seven years away from the highest level on Earth

1455
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 10: where people are spending every moment of their life in there.

1456
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 10: That would have been a phenomenal feed. I hope, I

1457
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 10: hope Deshan gets back to full for him, for you guys,

1458
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 10: but also for the good of the NFL, because he

1459
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 10: was electric every time he touched the field when he

1460
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 10: was with Houston. We'll see if it happens in Cleveland. Now,

1461
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 10: on that note, Tie, as a question for you.

1462
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 13: Yeah, speaking of the quarterbacks just in general, Andrew, obviously

1463
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 13: you want to Sean to play every game when you've

1464
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 13: paid him the kind of money that you have, But

1465
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 13: it seems like in years past and it's kind of

1466
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 13: starting to change now, but teams who are paying their

1467
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 13: quarterback that much, your backup quarterback is kind of just like,

1468
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 13: you know, if you lose your starter, you know you're

1469
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 13: you're screwed. You're not expecting the guy to come in

1470
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 13: and actually compete with the team you have. And then

1471
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 13: obviously last year you have the magical run with Flacco,

1472
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 13: you bring him in, you guys go to the playoffs,

1473
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 13: and then this offseason signed Jamis and you know he's

1474
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 13: obviously started in the NFL, played a lot of meaningful football.

1475
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 13: So how just kind of with all that in mind,

1476
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 13: how important is it to have a backup quarterback in

1477
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 13: the room where if something is to happen to Sean,

1478
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 13: you feel comfort enough, Hey, the guy we're putting in like,

1479
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 13: there's not going to be that much of a drop off.

1480
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 13: We're still going to compete and we're still going to

1481
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 13: win football games despite how much we're paying our starting quarterback.

1482
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's something that I really took from my time

1483
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 11: with Howie Roseman in Philadelphia, and it's quite simply, quarterbacks

1484
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 11: the most important position in sports. It has the biggest

1485
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 11: impact on the outcome of games in the NFL. And

1486
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,439
Speaker 11: no different than you wouldn't stop adding to your talent

1487
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 11: base in the O line room, the D line room,

1488
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 11: pass catchers, corners, you know, why would you really do

1489
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 11: that at quarterback, especially knowing how much a quarterback injury

1490
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 11: or something along those lines can derail your season. So,

1491
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 11: you know, I think back to Philly right there, you know,

1492
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 11: their only super Bowl they won with their you know,

1493
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 11: with their backup quarterback. And so for me coming into

1494
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 11: the general manager seat, you know, really since day one

1495
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 11: when we had Baker, you know, one of our first

1496
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 11: major free agent signings was case Keenum to have a

1497
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 11: to have a good backup. Obviously when we for Deshaun,

1498
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 11: the first person we signed in free agency was Jacoby Brissett.

1499
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 11: You know, we had Dobbs and then drafted you know,

1500
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 11: a young kid Dorian Thompson Robinson last year, and then

1501
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 11: obviously transitioned to Flacco's We kept getting guys hurt and

1502
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 11: then Jame you know, Jamis this year. So for us,

1503
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Speaker 11: we maybe take a little bit of a different approach

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Speaker 11: than others. We that's an area where you know, we

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Speaker 11: are fine spending resources because we know how important the

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Speaker 11: position is and how much it can impact your season.

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Speaker 2: Great stuff from ab there with Pat McAfee. For the

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Speaker 2: rest of that interview, go to ESPN dot com or

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Speaker 2: visit YouTube dot com slash Pat McAfee show for more

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Speaker 2: of their conversation. Coming up next to conversation with director

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Speaker 2: Player Personnel Dang sagany Z will join him as well.

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Speaker 6: What a treat.

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Speaker 4: It's our annual talk with the Director of player Personnel

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Speaker 4: for your Cleveland Browns, Dan Sagny in studio. SAgs First

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Speaker 4: of all, you're glowing. It's a you've gone through kind

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Speaker 4: of the off season, the draft. How does it feel

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Speaker 4: for that all the work that you guys have done

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Speaker 4: for all this time to think about how you're going

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Speaker 4: to construct the roster and you're not limited to just

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Speaker 4: the draft. You're on the pro side as well, free agency.

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Speaker 4: All of that that the haze and the barn mostly right,

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Speaker 4: it never ends.

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Speaker 5: I know, yeah, it does never end.

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Speaker 14: I would say, well, number one, definitely excited to be

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Speaker 14: through the draft. I mean it's a lot of work.

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Speaker 14: It's about ten months of work that everybody puts in,

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Speaker 14: from all our college road scouts to everybody in the

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Speaker 14: building on the pro side, on the college side, helping

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Speaker 14: build out our roster. I would say you can really

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01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 14: kind of catch your breath after rookie Minni caamp is

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Speaker 14: when you feel like you can have a little bit

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Speaker 14: of a sigh of relief once you and then start

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01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 14: to get to know your roster and then you know,

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Speaker 14: for us, building the roster is truly, like it sounds cheesy,

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01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 14: but it's a year long event. Like we're going to

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01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 14: be looking to add guys in August, We're going to

1543
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 14: be looking to add guys early in the season, you know,

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Speaker 14: as cuts are made. So this is you know, through

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01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 14: pro free agency. That's a big part of our cycle.

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Speaker 14: You know, this year we were able to bring back

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Speaker 14: a ton of our own players, which we're really excited about.

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01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 14: Able to add a receiver that we really like with

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Speaker 14: Judy through trade. So for us, it's really using all

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Speaker 14: of our assets over the course of the year. And

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Speaker 14: you know, the draft obviously is the biggest pipeline to building,

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01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 14: you know, building depth on your roster, finding eventual starters

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01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 14: on your roster. And we're in a good position this

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Speaker 14: year where you know, you can really pick best players

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Speaker 14: available and guys that we're really excited about developing, whether

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Speaker 14: or not they start this year that's TBD. So yeah,

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01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 14: it's a good time of year to get through and

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01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 14: we're excited about the spring and it was nice being

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Speaker 14: out there today to be able to watch all of

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Speaker 14: our guys, all of our events that are here, you know,

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Speaker 14: get out in the practice field really for the first

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Speaker 14: time in Phase two.

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Speaker 4: So remind the folks who may not know how many

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01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 4: years you've been with the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 14: Let's see, this will be my sixteenth season coming up.

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Speaker 14: So I started here in May of two thousand and nine.

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Speaker 4: Okay, of those sixteen seasons, and we can use a ballpark.

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Speaker 6: We don't have to be exact.

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Speaker 4: How many times have you gone into a draft where

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Speaker 4: you truly were not looking for a savior, a starter,

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Speaker 4: multiple starters, something to turn things around, and you could

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Speaker 4: really just take best player available and know that, hey,

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Speaker 4: if one of these guys makes it into the rotation

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Speaker 4: this year, great, but if not, fine, it's a great question.

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Speaker 14: It's about you know, I would say there's in plenty

1576
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Speaker 14: of the fifteen years, you know, there's been players. Hey,

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Speaker 14: you're going to need to rely on this guy to

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Speaker 14: play significant snaps. You play winning football right away this year.

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Speaker 14: And you know, really the last couple of years, like

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Speaker 14: we've been able to build out our roster with you know,

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Speaker 14: really good vet players.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 14: We drafted a couple of years ago that have you know,

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Speaker 14: done a great job developing through our program here so

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Speaker 14: that the ready to play and now they're the guys

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Speaker 14: that are starting, and you know they're working with these

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Speaker 14: younger guys that we bring in to help develop them too.

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Speaker 14: Like that's the really cool part about our culture, our

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Speaker 14: coaching staff, the way things are structured here with player development.

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Speaker 14: You know, we put a ton of resources into developing

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Speaker 14: these guys on the field off the field, and really

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Speaker 14: it's cool seeing the team you know, buy in together

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01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 14: and take each other along, and guys are excited for

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Speaker 14: each other's success, you know, as they should be.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, well and we'll talk about free agencies. I

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Speaker 4: aus you mentioned a lot of people came back they

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Speaker 4: want to but just kind of real quickly on the

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Speaker 4: kind of chilverall philosophy part of it. You know, the

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Speaker 4: change of a draft being kind of almost succession planning

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Speaker 4: in some cases, is that's a sign of a good, healthy,

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Speaker 4: full roster and certainly, as you pointed out, that's kind

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Speaker 4: of where we are. So that's is that a fun

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01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 4: way to kind of change maybe what you're looking for

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01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 4: and some of these guys knowing that you have a

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01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 4: little bit of a longer event horizon until they need

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Speaker 4: to go.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, definitely is I would also say, like you try

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Speaker 14: to look at it like planning out for the future,

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Speaker 14: but then you know you're in week you're in week four,

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Speaker 14: and you got three rookies in the starting lineup, and it's.

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Speaker 5: Like, all right, let's go. Yeah, you know Duwan last year.

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Speaker 14: Halfway through game one, all right, time time to go,

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Speaker 14: se ready start start for the rest of the year.

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Speaker 14: So a lot next week, no exactly. So you know,

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Speaker 14: the NFL, there's so many injuries and so many turnovers,

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Speaker 14: and like I said, our roster building process and philosophy

1617
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 14: really is like, you know, trying obviously trying to get

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Speaker 14: the best starters we can get, but competent depth and

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Speaker 14: competition behind it.

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Speaker 5: That's going to make your team better.

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Speaker 14: And you know, you and I were sitting here talking

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Speaker 14: earlier about how when you cut down to your fifty

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Speaker 14: three roster, those guys on your practice squad, a couple

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Speaker 14: of them are going to be elevated week one, even

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Speaker 14: though they're not technically on your fifty three. And then

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Speaker 14: you know, plenty of those guys are going to be

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Speaker 14: on your roster, on your fifty three for you know,

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Speaker 14: call it two thirds of the year and up and

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Speaker 14: then you know, starting significant games and playing. So these

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Speaker 14: rookies are coming in, Yes, they have good vets in

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01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 14: front of them to you know, take snaps early and

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01:09:57,200 --> 01:10:00,080
Speaker 14: to play. But and you know, sit behind and and

1633
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:01,680
Speaker 14: learn and develop a little bit. So they have a

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Speaker 14: little bit of time, sure, but eventually those guys have to.

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Speaker 5: Play and be ready to play, and we expect them to.

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Speaker 6: So, boy, we know it.

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Speaker 4: After last year, you were quite a busy man throughout

1638
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Speaker 4: that season's year for all of us.

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Speaker 6: There's no doubt about all.

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Speaker 11: Right.

1641
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Speaker 4: Let's talk about free agency for a second, and you

1642
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 4: mentioned a lot of guys came back. A lot of

1643
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 4: guys wanted to come back. And you look at veterans

1644
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 4: around the league, guys like nahem Hein's Dante Foreman, who

1645
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 4: are you know, wanting to contribute on a winning team,

1646
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 4: go after Super Bowls. They wanted to come here. So

1647
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 4: that's also been part of the shift, is not only

1648
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 4: in terms of you know, what the actual rosters, but

1649
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Speaker 4: maybe what people see is happening here. You talked about

1650
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 4: it the way that everybody works well together. This is

1651
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Speaker 4: we're building a winning culture and people want to be

1652
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Speaker 4: a part of that. How does that kind of help

1653
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:44,719
Speaker 4: in the process? And for you, was that a gratifying

1654
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,879
Speaker 4: thing to see that? Yeah, Zadarius and Shelby and Rodney, everybody,

1655
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 4: they all want Mohurst, They all wanted to come back.

1656
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 4: They all wanted to get another bite at the apple

1657
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 4: here with the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

1659
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 5: Absolutely.

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Speaker 14: I mean, I think if you look at our season

1661
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:57,639
Speaker 14: last year, the thing that stands out to me the most,

1662
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 14: at least, I would say, like, our home games are

1663
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:03,559
Speaker 14: a lot of fun. Like our guys and look like

1664
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:06,680
Speaker 14: they're having fun. Our guys have fun practicing, which you

1665
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 14: don't always get, you.

1666
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:09,759
Speaker 5: Know, at all levels of football.

1667
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Speaker 14: And I think the fact that a lot of guys

1668
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 14: wanted to come back, you know, players saw that. Guys

1669
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:16,680
Speaker 14: that played here during the regular season felt that. I mean,

1670
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Speaker 14: it's it's a great environment. The Dog Pound's awesome, we

1671
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:21,800
Speaker 14: have good players, it's a fun defense to play in.

1672
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 14: You know, Offensively, we're scoring a lot of points, and

1673
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:27,640
Speaker 14: it was cool offensively to see guys step in and

1674
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 14: play well and to you know, have the concess the

1675
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Speaker 14: success continue.

1676
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, and guys want to be a part of that.

1677
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Speaker 14: So I think it's a credit to Kevin, is a

1678
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:37,799
Speaker 14: credit to ab, It's a credit to you know, everybody

1679
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:40,719
Speaker 14: that helps build the culture here going forward.

1680
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 4: So if you're able and maybe give us a little

1681
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:46,720
Speaker 4: a peep behind the curtain here when you bring in

1682
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 4: Ken Dorsey to be the offensive coordinator and you know

1683
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 4: we're gonna go a little bit more shotgun based, a

1684
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 4: little more eleven personnel based, how do those conversations go

1685
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 4: with between you know, coaching and the personnel department say Okay,

1686
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 4: here's what we're gonna look like, here's what we need

1687
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 4: to do that, and so you kind of have an

1688
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 4: idea to say, okay, well these are the right players

1689
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 4: to identify for what we're going.

1690
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 5: To be sure.

1691
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 14: So that's a big picture question with call it like

1692
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 14: how we build our free agency board and our college

1693
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 14: scouting board, like our draft board for last weekend, so

1694
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 14: you know, we ask our scouts to kind of you know,

1695
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 14: grade everything for the league and then you know we

1696
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 14: will eventually like pick things down to the players that truly.

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Speaker 5: Fit us us.

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01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 14: Yeah, and that's we do a pretty good job communicating

1699
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 14: with our coaching staff. We have them come in and

1700
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 14: talk to the scouts, we do, you know, a scout

1701
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 14: school in August where we refresh on scheme right before

1702
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 14: everybody hits the road for the next four months. Hey,

1703
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 14: these are the type of players we're looking for. Let's

1704
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 14: be very sure about how we're grading certain traits so

1705
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 14: that when we you know, when it comes to your

1706
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:50,760
Speaker 14: final grade on a player and we're sitting down, you know,

1707
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Speaker 14: six months later in February, from the first time these

1708
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Speaker 14: guys see a player in the fall, where it's like, hey,

1709
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 14: this guy's a really good player. He may not be

1710
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 14: an ideal scheme for fit for us, but he has

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Speaker 14: these four traits.

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Speaker 5: That are going to be successful in the NFL.

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Speaker 14: And then you know, once we kind of build out

1714
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:08,759
Speaker 14: our board, then you know, we get the coaching staff involved.

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Speaker 5: We have a really good extra week of.

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Speaker 14: Meetings where we talk through specific players, different scenarios, how

1717
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 14: they fit, How does the staff see the fit? Are

1718
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 14: there any differences with how we see things internally with

1719
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:22,680
Speaker 14: the scouts that have been around these guys for the

1720
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:23,799
Speaker 14: last six months.

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Speaker 4: So how hard is it to actually get to a consensus.

1722
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 4: You have so many people that have spent so much

1723
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 4: time and probably all have see things through a slightly

1724
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,720
Speaker 4: different lens, but ultimately, and I guess Andrew Berry at

1725
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:35,600
Speaker 4: the end of the day is the only one that

1726
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,640
Speaker 4: gets the board to look exactly how ultimately he wants it.

1727
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 4: But how do you guys kind of get to that

1728
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 4: consense because that's got to be a lot of fun,

1729
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 4: spirited debate and at some times kind of oh well,

1730
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 4: I saw this, I saw it, because then you know,

1731
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 4: in this profession, right, you can end up chasing ghosts

1732
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 4: like over analysis, paralysis by over analysis. But how is

1733
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 4: is do you enjoy that part of the process, everybody

1734
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 4: kind of saying, here's what we think and then let's

1735
01:13:57,080 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 4: figure out what we collectively Ultimately the final answer, Yeah,

1736
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 4: we have you.

1737
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 14: Know, great debates. I feel like every draft room in

1738
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:05,800
Speaker 14: the NFL has great debates because you've got a lot

1739
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 14: of opinionated people that have spent many, many hours of

1740
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 14: their life the last two years talking about the same

1741
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 14: players in one area of the country. And then you know,

1742
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 14: the coaching staff does a great job of explaining their

1743
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 14: vision for the player.

1744
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 5: You know, we talk about like we don't want.

1745
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 14: Consensus, really like you want different opinions. You want to

1746
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:25,639
Speaker 14: make sure all your information matches up in certain areas,

1747
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 14: and when it doesn't, hey, let's sit here for twenty

1748
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:30,680
Speaker 14: minutes and talk through this. What is different in this

1749
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 14: guy's profile than what we're seeing. Let's get everybody in

1750
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 14: a room together, coaching staff, research football, Let's all talk

1751
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 14: through exactly all the information, all the touch points we've

1752
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:41,679
Speaker 14: had on this player through the year.

1753
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:43,719
Speaker 5: How does it fit for the Cleveland Browns.

1754
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 14: And that's you know, what kind of breaks ties if

1755
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 14: you will, So you know, we're the players that are consensus,

1756
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 14: that are the first round players.

1757
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 5: Those guys are easy.

1758
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 6: Sure.

1759
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 5: The fun part about.

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Speaker 14: What we do is the debates. It's the you know,

1761
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 14: our area scouts know these players in and out for years.

1762
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 14: You know some of them they've been looking at. So

1763
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 14: when you get a lot of opinionated, smart people in

1764
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 14: a room, it's.

1765
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 5: It's a lot of fun to have those debates.

1766
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 14: And then you know, it's good to pick each other's

1767
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 14: arguments apart and that we you know, we watch more

1768
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 14: stuff together.

1769
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 5: We'll go through, you know, a lot of different.

1770
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:17,719
Speaker 14: Research presentations on players as well, and then everybody weighs

1771
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 14: in and you kind of say your final piece. But

1772
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 14: ultimately the board is what we think is best for

1773
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:24,720
Speaker 14: the Cleveland Browns, and ab does a great job of

1774
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 14: communicating that across the staff and like why of certain

1775
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 14: players on the board in a certain area even though

1776
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 14: there's probably, I mean, there's not going to be consensus

1777
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 14: on most sure, that's the fun of it.

1778
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 2: It's a remarkable process when you think about the length

1779
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 2: of it, being a full year leading up to just

1780
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 2: those couple of days of the NFL Draft and trying

1781
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:45,680
Speaker 2: to come up with something that makes everybody happy in

1782
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:47,760
Speaker 2: a room full of opinions. We'll have part two of

1783
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 2: that conversation with Zee and Segg's coming up next to

1784
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Speaker 2: listen to cleveld Brown's Daily on a fifty ESPN.

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1791
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 2: think about Andrew Berry and that gmtree that he's got

1792
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 2: cooking right now. Quasia Daffo Mensa obviously doing a fantastic

1793
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 2: job in Minnesota on that restructure and kind of the

1794
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 2: rebuilding of Minnesota on the fly. Obviously a big bet

1795
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 2: on JJ McCarthy there in the draft, but navigated the

1796
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 2: end of Kirk Cousins quite successfully. Glenn Cook continues to

1797
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 2: get interviews and will certainly be a general manager in

1798
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 2: this league before you know it. Catherine Rach as well,

1799
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 2: very well respected, will be a general manager at some point.

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Speaker 2: You certainly get the feeling of that. Add Segs to

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Speaker 2: that list, and if you're not convinced, here's part two

1802
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 2: of Z's conversation with Segs.

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Speaker 6: It's amazing.

1804
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:55,639
Speaker 4: I don't think people realize out of how you whittle

1805
01:16:55,720 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 4: down this vast sea of draft prospects to even enough

1806
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 4: guys to fill out an entire NFL draft are draft

1807
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:05,720
Speaker 4: eligible and are on the Cleveland Browns Ultimate board. And

1808
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 4: by the way, I'm excited if you to have some

1809
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:09,640
Speaker 4: easy first rounders to look at again next year. I'm

1810
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:12,600
Speaker 4: sure that I'm sure you would late first rounder, late

1811
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:14,600
Speaker 4: first round, maybe the last pick in the first one

1812
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 4: would be great. So when you're able to kind of

1813
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 4: go through those process season, I'm sure it's just as

1814
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:21,719
Speaker 4: stringent when you go through free agency or potential trade.

1815
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 4: So for example, you guys get a former first rounder

1816
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 4: Jerry Judy, everybody seems to be very excited about that,

1817
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 4: and lock him up to a contract so you have

1818
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 4: him here for a while.

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01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 6: And I kind of like that.

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01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:33,600
Speaker 4: I like when with Chief, for example, he got his

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01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 4: contract kind of before maybe the production was the contract

1822
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:38,640
Speaker 4: and now looks like a great deal. And hopefully that

1823
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:40,479
Speaker 4: ends up being the case with with Jerry Judy. But

1824
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 4: kind of the thought process and hey, this is something

1825
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:45,599
Speaker 4: we thought was dead, it's back alive. Let's get Jerry

1826
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 4: Judy in here, and how do we make it happen?

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01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 4: And then how does he fit and how does that

1828
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 4: change what we're going to do in the draft if anything?

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01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 7: Right?

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01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean we talked about a year ago with

1831
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 14: Elijah Moore too, Like all we did was basically shift

1832
01:17:57,240 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 14: the group of players where we're bringing in here for

1833
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 14: thirty visits after we made that trade in March. So

1834
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 14: it's like you're constantly your avenues to acquire players, like

1835
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:07,639
Speaker 14: your resources are your draft picks and your salary cap

1836
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 14: dollars and the players that are currently on your roster

1837
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:14,479
Speaker 14: by trade if those factor in. So for us, we

1838
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 14: really look at it as you can build your roster.

1839
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 14: You know, the draft is the best way to do it.

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01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 4: Obviously, it's necessary at some point with a good team

1841
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 4: to have guys on rookie deals, right so that you can, yeah,

1842
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 4: you need starters on rookie deals.

1843
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 5: Have exactly.

1844
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 14: But then you know, there's also other times there's preseason

1845
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 14: scouting where we're able to add a player too that

1846
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 14: we really like. You know, there's trades during the season,

1847
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 14: there's trades in the off season. So you know, just

1848
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 14: because of trade may be dead call it at the trade.

1849
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 5: Deadline in the middle of the season.

1850
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Speaker 14: One year, maybe it pops back up in March. As

1851
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:48,639
Speaker 14: teams shift their rosters, they shift philosophies, they shift around.

1852
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 5: How they use their cap dollars, which every team does.

1853
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 14: We've done it through the years, and you know, we

1854
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 14: really tried to make the best use out of all

1855
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:59,719
Speaker 14: of our resources and we try to be as creative

1856
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 14: as we can. And you know, eventually a trade like

1857
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 14: Jerry comes up where we feel good about it and

1858
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 14: it's a player that we really like, so why would

1859
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:09,760
Speaker 14: we not investigate an extension and see where that goes.

1860
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 14: So that's exciting, you know, say you brought up David too,

1861
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 14: Like David's a player we felt very strongly about internally

1862
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:19,719
Speaker 14: and felt like we knew exactly what we were getting.

1863
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 14: And you know, it sounds cliche, but you really don't

1864
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 14: pay much attention to the outside noise, of course, because

1865
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:29,799
Speaker 14: we're you know, we're pretty convicted in our in our process.

1866
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 14: You know, not everybody's going to be right all the time,

1867
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 14: but when you have you know, good information, good people

1868
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 14: doing the work, and you know, we end up coming

1869
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 14: to a pretty good consensus on things. It's you know,

1870
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 14: we're doing what we feel like is the best thing

1871
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:44,679
Speaker 14: to build our roster going forward.

1872
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 6: So is that a gratifying situation takes you?

1873
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:48,679
Speaker 4: For example, and some of the ups and downs early

1874
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:50,799
Speaker 4: in his career, at times wanted to be traded.

1875
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 6: We said no, sorry, you're going to be Cleveland.

1876
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:55,559
Speaker 4: Brown gets the deal and then once he gets it,

1877
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 4: elevates his game even more. That's one of those it

1878
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:00,439
Speaker 4: feels like to me like that's kind one of those

1879
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 4: great stories where I was remember being a part of

1880
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 4: this player from from A to B and C and

1881
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 4: they're kind of maturation not only as a human but

1882
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:09,559
Speaker 4: as a player on the field, and what they mean

1883
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 4: for the Cleveland Browns.

1884
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 14: Yeah, exactly, And like you know, David is the perfect

1885
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 14: example of this for you know, extension talk and all that.

1886
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 14: And like David's development, again, every player is a little

1887
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 14: bit different with how long it takes them to develop.

1888
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 14: David had different circumstances with offenses, quarterbacks, all this stuff

1889
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 14: through the years, and you know, we believed in a

1890
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:28,720
Speaker 14: certain skill set with David and it's you know, that's

1891
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 14: why we were willing to extend him. He's been a

1892
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 14: great teammate and obviously, yeah, it worked out great.

1893
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:36,760
Speaker 5: We we love David. We're very happy he's here. Yeah,

1894
01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:38,479
Speaker 5: and you know, we have plenty of other guys.

1895
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 14: We've extended through the years that are going to have

1896
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 14: some coming up as well, your young core players on

1897
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 14: our team that we want to keep. Like that's the

1898
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 14: goal is to draft and develop and keep your own

1899
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 14: and that's you know, that's what we believe in. And

1900
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 14: other times you need to get creative to add talent

1901
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:53,320
Speaker 14: to your roster and you know, phil holes, but also

1902
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 14: if a really good opportunity comes, we pride ourselves on

1903
01:20:56,240 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 14: being opportunistic and turning over every rock and again might

1904
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 14: sound cliche, but it's something that's that's our job. That

1905
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 14: our job is to add talent players that fit our

1906
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 14: culture that Kevin sets and win football games.

1907
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:11,439
Speaker 4: So I'm amazed people pick up the phone, You're like, hey,

1908
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:12,720
Speaker 4: can we give you a couple of late round picks

1909
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:14,840
Speaker 4: for a former first round wide receiver. I'm surprised that

1910
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 4: they're like they even entertained that anymore.

1911
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Speaker 14: Every everything different, every yeah, every team is different with

1912
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 14: how they value players and and you know the future

1913
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 14: of their roster. So everybody has a plan, and.

1914
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:31,440
Speaker 4: It's exploiting market inefficiencies, right who knows my words.

1915
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 5: Not your your words not.

1916
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 6: Let's go ahead, let's do a little a little rabbit

1917
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 6: fire here on our draft class.

1918
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 4: First one favorite pick if you had one, I know

1919
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 4: the in the scouting community, got your pet cats out there,

1920
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:45,839
Speaker 4: so and anyone jump out to you in this class.

1921
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 14: I mean, I love the guys we took on Day two,

1922
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 14: Mike call, love the skill set, love the fit for us.

1923
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 14: I think he's gonna be a really good football player

1924
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 14: for us. Again, everything kind of checked every box along

1925
01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:00,759
Speaker 14: the way for us. And then you know, getting Zenter

1926
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 14: later that day, I think is a perfect compliment to

1927
01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 14: our roster again, very just a rock solid football player

1928
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 14: that I think you're happy you take those guys at

1929
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:11,240
Speaker 14: any round in the draft and you know, to get

1930
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 14: him where we did. We're really excited there. So what's

1931
01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:16,439
Speaker 14: the two day two guys that was? I like, we're

1932
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:17,679
Speaker 14: very excited to at him.

1933
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 4: What's the one thing about Michael Hall Junior that gets

1934
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:21,120
Speaker 4: you the most excited?

1935
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 14: Just explosion in twitch coming off the ball, Like he's

1936
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:27,320
Speaker 14: a quick, powerful, disruptive player that's hard to block.

1937
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:27,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1938
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:31,599
Speaker 4: The fastest interior pressure time in college football as year,

1939
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 4: just center three seconds.

1940
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, the quarterback.

1941
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:35,639
Speaker 4: I like that Zenter. I said this to Ab when

1942
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 4: I talked to him on Monday. It just feels like

1943
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:40,760
Speaker 4: a guy you draft and he's like a ten year starter,

1944
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:42,720
Speaker 4: Like he's just and that's what you hope, right, We

1945
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 4: hope that that's what turns out to be. But he

1946
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 4: just feels so solid and kind of such a Cleveland Brown.

1947
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 5: I would agree with that.

1948
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 14: Yeah, Zach is like, I mean he started whatever it is,

1949
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 14: forty two games at Michigan. Yeah, at you know a

1950
01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 14: couple of different spots. He's just he's smart, he's tough,

1951
01:22:57,920 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 14: he's like fits exactly what.

1952
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:00,759
Speaker 5: We want to be as a football team.

1953
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:03,920
Speaker 14: I think you'll fit in perfectly with our offensive line room.

1954
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 14: And you know, again, just a rock solid football player

1955
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 14: that again I hope he starts for ten years in

1956
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 14: the National Football League, be fantastic, be a great third

1957
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 14: round pick. But we're yeah, I mean again, just a

1958
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 14: guy that fits everything that we want to be and

1959
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 14: really excited that we were able to land him.

1960
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 4: So and it's why it's a pick that shows one of,

1961
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:25,800
Speaker 4: in my mind, the realities of the National Football It'd

1962
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 4: be so nice to sit here and say we're gonna

1963
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 4: have Joel, we're gonna have Wyatt, and they're just gonna be.

1964
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:29,880
Speaker 6: Our guards forever.

1965
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 4: And unfortunately, age, money, all these things come into playing.

1966
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 4: So you've got to be prepared for that. And you

1967
01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:37,559
Speaker 4: get a guy here, I think at a very good value,

1968
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 4: probably coming off the broken leg that maybe helped a

1969
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:41,680
Speaker 4: little bit that if one of them gets hurt, you

1970
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 4: feel really good about it. And if not, at someday

1971
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 4: you know he's going to become a.

1972
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 6: Starter for the runs. And that's I mean, the succession

1973
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:47,479
Speaker 6: planning I was talking about exactly.

1974
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 14: Yeah, it's a guy that you know has played a

1975
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 14: ton of football will be easy to develop. Again, guys

1976
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 14: that are you know, that smart and have played that

1977
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 14: much football and are tough and athletic like they're going

1978
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 14: to find a home. And again, our job is to

1979
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 14: build depth on our roster so that guys are ready

1980
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:03,599
Speaker 14: to step in whenever they're called upon.

1981
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:05,719
Speaker 4: So I will go through the day three guys quick,

1982
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 4: just kind of one because when you get to this point,

1983
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 4: there's there's one thing that attracts you to them, right

1984
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 4: because if they were complete prospects there, they would be

1985
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 4: gone in the first round and nobody is really but

1986
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 4: in day three you're looking for that one trade. AB

1987
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 4: talks about it all the time. Let's start with Jamari Thrash,

1988
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:22,160
Speaker 4: the receiver out of level. What's the one thing that

1989
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 4: you like about him?

1990
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:27,280
Speaker 14: Yeah, separation ability and you know, pretty good with the

1991
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 14: ball in his hands. He's just a really natural receiver

1992
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 14: that has been really productive across two schools. Yeah, you know, again,

1993
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:38,639
Speaker 14: another guy that checked every box along the spring process

1994
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:40,600
Speaker 14: for us, and a guy that we think, you know,

1995
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 14: just like the rest of our roster in that room,

1996
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:44,639
Speaker 14: you know, can kind of play inside and out and

1997
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 14: add flexibility to us. So yeah, they're out running stuff

1998
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:48,560
Speaker 14: is pretty good.

1999
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:50,639
Speaker 4: I like that the bait. Well, if you can separate

2000
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 4: in this league, you can play.

2001
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 5: You'll find a home.

2002
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, you can play.

2003
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 4: Nathaniel wattson SEC Defensive Player of the Year ten sacks,

2004
01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:00,639
Speaker 4: one hundred and thirty seven tackles, and he is a

2005
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:02,640
Speaker 4: big off ball linebacker.

2006
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 8: He is.

2007
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:04,639
Speaker 5: I'm glad you.

2008
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:06,840
Speaker 14: Brought up the tackle and sack production like he's you know,

2009
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:09,599
Speaker 14: Abe hit it a little bit on this speaking about

2010
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:12,280
Speaker 14: him after the draft too, Like he is, you know,

2011
01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 14: a little bit of a body type that we're probably

2012
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 14: missing in that room. And he's a big physical player

2013
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 14: who can run. And he's just a tough, rugged player

2014
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 14: that you know, can do a lot of different things.

2015
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 14: He proved that with the tackle and sack production. You

2016
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 14: know guys that produce like that in the SEC, Like,

2017
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 14: there's a lot to be said for that. Yeah, And

2018
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 14: you know, he's a big, physical, tough guy that you know, fits.

2019
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Speaker 5: What we want to do well and you can do

2020
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 5: a lot.

2021
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 4: Of different things with so and he's a guy when

2022
01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 4: Jim Schwartz lines him up over a guard and one

2023
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 4: of those blitz looks that the guard's gonna have to

2024
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 4: pay attention to.

2025
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:43,559
Speaker 5: Him, he's he's going to be tough to block.

2026
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 4: So all right, Miles hardened out of South Dakota, good

2027
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:50,719
Speaker 4: ball production in college, seems to be a physical, aggressive guy.

2028
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 4: And you know somebody could play in the nickel. What

2029
01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 4: was kind of the one thing about him? What's what

2030
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 4: the one skill set that really stood out?

2031
01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:59,120
Speaker 14: Two things really stand out with Miles. I would say instincts,

2032
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:03,040
Speaker 14: very instinctive players played inside and out. We do like

2033
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:04,840
Speaker 14: the skill set to you know, be able to cross

2034
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:07,559
Speaker 14: train here just like a really smart football player. You

2035
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 14: really see it across all of his coverage stuff in college.

2036
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 14: And then you know through the spring, like his workouts

2037
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:18,479
Speaker 14: have all been really good, the Pro day and the combine,

2038
01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:20,320
Speaker 14: like you see really good feet, you see really good

2039
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 14: transition quickness.

2040
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:23,480
Speaker 5: He's just a very efficient athlete.

2041
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 14: And when you combine those two, you know, instincts and

2042
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 14: just an efficient foot and hit athlete like you usually

2043
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 14: getting a pretty good NFL player.

2044
01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 4: So and then the final pick for the Browns and

2045
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:35,080
Speaker 4: I know somebody you're excited about Juwan Briggs. Who is

2046
01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 4: He is a built dude, a defensive tackle, lot of

2047
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 4: sensey he is.

2048
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:41,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, Juwan is again he's a little bit like my call.

2049
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:46,040
Speaker 14: He's an explosive, disruptive guy who writes apparently yes, yes,

2050
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:47,839
Speaker 14: glad you guys know that story.

2051
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:50,839
Speaker 5: He Yeah, I mean he's a guy that really showed.

2052
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 14: Up well through the spring, through you know, the workout process,

2053
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:56,280
Speaker 14: all Star games, and a guy you know we're able

2054
01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:57,680
Speaker 14: to bring in for a visit, get to know him

2055
01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:00,439
Speaker 14: a little bit really just kind of you know, our

2056
01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:02,720
Speaker 14: area scouts did a good job identifying a player early.

2057
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 14: Same thing with Miles. You know, Dan Zegers was on

2058
01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 14: him pretty early. So you know, those things that get

2059
01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:11,599
Speaker 14: brought to the table pretty quick and all our scouts

2060
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:14,080
Speaker 14: do a great job. And then you pair that with

2061
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 14: guys that check the boxes through the spring and yeah,

2062
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 14: you know you feel really excited about adding so to

2063
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:20,960
Speaker 14: get him in the seventh guy again that the fits

2064
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:22,559
Speaker 14: the mole that we're looking forward detackle.

2065
01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:23,640
Speaker 3: Why not?

2066
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:26,439
Speaker 4: Well, you guys have brought a lot of quality players

2067
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 4: and people into this program, whether be free agency, trade

2068
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 4: or the draft. And now the fun you know again,

2069
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 4: as we said that it's all constantly working, constantly churning,

2070
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 4: but the fun hopefully getting to see these guys out

2071
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:39,920
Speaker 4: on the grass together. We're only a month away or

2072
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:41,600
Speaker 4: so from from getting to see all of that, so

2073
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 4: that'll be a lot of fun. Dan, thank you so

2074
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:45,080
Speaker 4: much for the time, for all the insights, and really

2075
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 4: for allowing us kind of to understand the process that

2076
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 4: goes into what you see ultimately on the field in

2077
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 4: creating the twenty twenty four Cleveland brown So thanks for

2078
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:54,720
Speaker 4: the time.

2079
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, happy to happy to be on and thanks again

2080
01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:57,240
Speaker 5: for having me.

2081
01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:59,600
Speaker 4: We love having it all right, Dan Sag and he

2082
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:01,880
Speaker 4: Brown's director or player personnel will be back with more

2083
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:04,240
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2084
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:06,839
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2085
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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally bet Now

2086
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:21,960
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2087
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 2: I want to thank Nick Schub for dropping by the

2088
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 2: program today. Z's interviews with Greg do some AB on

2089
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 2: McAfee again. If you want more of that, go to

2090
01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 2: ESPN dot com or Pat's YouTube channel. You get that

2091
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 2: extended interview. AB obviously very comfortable with Pat, great familiarity

2092
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:44,679
Speaker 2: from the time in Indy that the two had. Dan Sagan,

2093
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:46,439
Speaker 2: He's going to be a star in this business. Sixteen

2094
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:49,760
Speaker 2: years with the Browns, he clearly looks like someone who

2095
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:52,479
Speaker 2: is on that general manager trajectory. And you got a

2096
01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:55,320
Speaker 2: real kind of look into everything that goes into the draft,

2097
01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 2: what they liked about the guys that they picked, and

2098
01:28:58,320 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 2: quite honestly, we're going to get to see these guys

2099
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:01,840
Speaker 2: coming up. You get your rookie mini camp, you get

2100
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 2: your mandatory mini camp, which will come at the end.

2101
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:06,960
Speaker 2: We've seen the guys around the facility. It is getting

2102
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:09,960
Speaker 2: that time. Then they'll push off. Once you get into June,

2103
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:12,560
Speaker 2: reconvene at the end of July, you're down at the Greenbrier,

2104
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:14,559
Speaker 2: and then away we go. Zee and I are never

2105
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:17,000
Speaker 2: two guys who want to rush through summer, but for

2106
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 2: this team, it is really going to be about the

2107
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:22,479
Speaker 2: games that matter in season and the road towards that

2108
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:24,160
Speaker 2: is going to begin here in the next month, over

2109
01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:26,680
Speaker 2: the course of May, as you get into your mandatory,

2110
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:30,040
Speaker 2: your mandatory mini camps and those type of things moving along.

2111
01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:32,599
Speaker 2: So we thank all of those guys for the contribution today.

2112
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:34,880
Speaker 2: Gibby will be back joining me tomorrow on the program

2113
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:36,800
Speaker 2: Z back on Thursday. I forgot to mention Zee. He

2114
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 2: joined from NAPA. The full Pedro story is coming on

2115
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:43,200
Speaker 2: Thursday as well. On that Calves in Boston tonight for

2116
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:45,800
Speaker 2: Game one, I was taking a look at some of

2117
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:49,280
Speaker 2: the staff picks. So Hammer's got Calves in five. I

2118
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 2: couldn't tell if he was Sincere, I couldn't tell. Paulus

2119
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:56,200
Speaker 2: has got the Celtics and six. Riz is going let's

2120
01:29:56,200 --> 01:29:59,600
Speaker 2: just see what happens. Look, I just want entertainment. I

2121
01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:03,200
Speaker 2: feel at this point from the CAF's perspective, you want

2122
01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:07,519
Speaker 2: a competitive series. You're battered, you're wounded, Mitchell's obviously still hobbled,

2123
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:10,799
Speaker 2: playing heroically, and I just think you want entertaining games.

2124
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 2: You want a game three here with some juice to it.

2125
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 2: It would be so sweet to go over there and

2126
01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:18,720
Speaker 2: steal one of them. You get one over there, you

2127
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:20,920
Speaker 2: get a game three here with a ton of juice,

2128
01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:22,720
Speaker 2: and then you have a series on your hands. And

2129
01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:25,120
Speaker 2: I think this crowd is dying to get behind it.

2130
01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:27,920
Speaker 2: We saw it in Game seven. Nervy moments early in

2131
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 2: that game, but then they got all in and it

2132
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:32,120
Speaker 2: was a reminder of what this town can be like

2133
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:34,040
Speaker 2: when the Calves are humming the way they were with

2134
01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:36,760
Speaker 2: Lebron For all of those years, first series wins since

2135
01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:39,000
Speaker 2: ninety three, and now let's see if we can get

2136
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:42,599
Speaker 2: something done on some house money in Boston. Obviously a tall,

2137
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:46,920
Speaker 2: tall task. I was looking earlier this week on one

2138
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:49,160
Speaker 2: of the betting sites of a four game sweep as

2139
01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:51,400
Speaker 2: the most likely that ain't happened, and the Calves gonna

2140
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:55,160
Speaker 2: win a game or two. I'm hopeful for that scenario.

2141
01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:58,040
Speaker 2: Get a split in Boston, then make a game three

2142
01:30:58,120 --> 01:31:00,920
Speaker 2: where you have real stakes on that one. I think

2143
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:03,080
Speaker 2: that's what you hope for. Hard to imagine them getting

2144
01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:05,200
Speaker 2: through this Celtics team. They feel like they're just kind

2145
01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:07,280
Speaker 2: of built for this. But do not forget the loss

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Speaker 2: of porzingis that that is a big loss for them.

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Speaker 2: It eat levels of playing field, Jared at Allen coming

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Speaker 2: back at some point, maybe that even tips the scales

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Speaker 2: a little bit more in your favor. But looking forward

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Speaker 2: to this one tonight and go Calves. Certainly the next

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Speaker 2: level is coming up next. We are back tomorrow. Thanks

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