1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Let's bring it now Ford CFO John Lawler to give 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: us more of a read on what happened over at Ford. John, 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. Let's start with 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: the EPs line, which was a miss of twenty cents 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: compared with the consensus. Can you walk us through what 6 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: dragged the EPs lower to missestimates by that much. 7 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: Well, look, we reaffirmed guidance for the year, our just 8 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 2: at e big guidance between ten and twelve billion. We 9 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: increased our free cash flow guidance by a billion dollars. 10 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: You know, this is one quarter along the journey towards 11 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 2: reshaping the company as we transform, as the industry transforms, 12 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: and it's not going to be. 13 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 3: A straight line up. 14 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: But I think the positive here is that we're on 15 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,279 Speaker 2: track for the year consistent with what we said at 16 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: the beginning of the year, and our cash flow is 17 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 2: coming in better. So you know, we're moving forward, fixing 18 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: the business, reshaping the company and really leaning into the 19 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: strengths we have with Ford Pro and with Ford Blue, 20 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: and really driving increased sales in our electric business, with 21 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: our high brid sales up thirty four. 22 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 3: Percent this quarter, nine percent of our mix. 23 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: So we're seeing strengths in many different areas across the business. 24 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 2: But again, full year, we're on track. 25 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: Full year year on track. I know that in the 26 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: past Ward has projected EV losses of up to five 27 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: and a half billion dollars this year. At what point 28 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: will Forward make profit on EVS? 29 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 2: Well, in the quarter you saw that we reduce our 30 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 2: costs and our EV business and Ford Model E. We're 31 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: working towards profitability with our second gen vehicles, which will 32 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 2: be ground up all new platforms that we're developing, and 33 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: you know, we won't launch those vehicles unless they are 34 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 2: profitable in the first year of sales. So that's what 35 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: we're focused on right now, fixing that business, lowering the 36 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: costs until our second generation vehicles come out, and continuing 37 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: to drive positive performance or across both Blue and Pro. 38 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 4: So how do you feel about the EV story overall? 39 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 4: I'm sure John, you can appreciate a lot of people 40 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 4: are focused on this transition and what it means for you. Guys, 41 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 4: think about just the Oakville, Ontario plant, for example, the 42 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 4: focusing on super duty pickups instead of EV's. How much 43 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 4: is Forward backing off of EVS. 44 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 2: Look, we are committed to EV's it's not a matter 45 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: of if you know they're going to happen. We have 46 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 2: tremendous demand for our super duty vehicles. We can't meet customers' needs. 47 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 2: So we took a plant that's available in Ontario. We 48 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 2: converted it over. We're converting it over to super duty 49 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 2: to fit a need. It's going to be capital efficient. 50 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: It's the quickest plant and path to bring more super 51 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 2: duties to market. And then you know, we'll reaffirm later 52 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: where we're going to build our SUV that was planned 53 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 2: for the Ontario plant. So we're still committed to our 54 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: electric vehicle business. 55 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 3: It is the future. 56 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 2: The path there is just going to be different than 57 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: what many people perceived or thought a few months ago, 58 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 2: a few years ago. But you know, we're not giving 59 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: up on EV's. They're an important part of our business. 60 00:02:58,200 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 2: They're an important part of our future. 61 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 4: When you look at the numbers here, it seems like 62 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 4: there are certain factors warranties for example, that might have 63 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 4: been a big factor in this earnings per share beat. John, 64 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 4: I can also appreciate that you're looking to guide toward 65 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 4: the future here, but what was the biggest contributor here 66 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 4: to the EPs? Miss what are you telling investors. 67 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: Well, I think warranty came in did come in higher 68 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 2: than we had planned, and that was from models that 69 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 2: were engineered and launched before twenty twenty one model years. 70 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 2: What you're seeing, though, is that our. 71 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 3: Quality is improving. 72 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 2: If you look at the JD Power initial survey on quality, 73 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 2: we moved from twenty three up to number nine. 74 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 3: Now are we happy with number nine? No, we have 75 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 3: a lot of. 76 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 2: Work to do, but we're really focused on improving quality. 77 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 2: We're seeing it in our internal numbers and you're seeing 78 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: it validated from third parties, so that's the important thing. 79 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: And then over time that will start to show up 80 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: through lower warranty costs as those quality numbers come through 81 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: our consumers and come through our products there and we're 82 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: launching in the markets today. 83 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: You know, I'm looking at the ford Blue business, which 84 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: is your ice business, and on a revenue line, it 85 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: looks like it did better than expected. But when it 86 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: comes to EBIT one point one seven billion dollars compares 87 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: with the estimate of two point four to three billion, 88 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: what happened to account for that bigness on the EBIT 89 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: line for Ford Blue? 90 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: There's two things in there one, most of the warranty 91 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: increase was in ford Blue. 92 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 3: The other thing is in the. 93 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: First half, the first second quarter, and in the first 94 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 2: half we were launching a number of vehicles and with 95 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: those launches came higher costs. Now in the second half, 96 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 2: we expect ford Blue to do much better than they 97 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: did in the first half. We'll have a new F 98 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 2: series in the marketplace running at full capacity. 99 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 3: We have the. 100 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 2: Launch of the new Explorer, we have the Ranger, and 101 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 2: then we've increased capacity on our Bronco. 102 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 3: So second half for ford Blue will be much stronger than. 103 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 2: The first half because we'll be through all these launches 104 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 2: and we'll have a lot more product in the marketplace 105 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 2: and those are very profitable products for us in our lineup. 106 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: Okay, so the warranty impact, it sounds like John was 107 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: a one time thing, not something that will be recurring. 108 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: What does this mean in terms of how you're looking 109 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: at your costs? Will there be more significant cost cuts? 110 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, We're working on reducing our costs intensely. It's an 111 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 2: incredible focus by the team. Really, it's really equality and 112 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 2: cost reductions. That's our opportunity in the near term to 113 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 2: really improve the business the teams focused on it, there 114 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 2: will be additional cost reductions or on track to take 115 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 2: two billion dollars in material cost out, manufacturing cost, freight costs, 116 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: and we're going to look to you know, accelerate that progress. 117 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 4: At the end of the day, has Ford Pro become 118 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 4: the most important part of your business? 119 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 2: With all things considered, I think all parts of the 120 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 2: business are important. Our incredible ice platform is going to 121 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 2: be here for a long time. Evs are going to 122 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 2: be a big part of our future. But yeah, Ford 123 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 2: Pro is different. It is a very strong part of 124 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: our business. It's unmatched in the industry with the strengths 125 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 2: we have. It's the culmination of hardware, software and services 126 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 2: coming together other it's in a creative business that's going 127 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 2: to you know, drive the bottom line for Ford Motor 128 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: Company over the next several years. 129 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 3: For sure. 130 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: We increased our guidance for ford Pro for the year 131 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 2: adjusted EVID guidance by a billion dollars. So yeah, it's 132 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 2: a special business within Ford and we're really pleased with 133 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 2: how it's performing. 134 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 3: John. 135 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 4: We really appreciate your time today. Of course. That is 136 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 4: Ford CFO John Lawler, right on the heels of an 137 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 4: important earning season