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Speaker 2: A strange Thursday. Football coming up tonight. A lot of

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Speaker 2: Marv Paully yours truly the Flacco Around and find Out

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Speaker 2: t shirt. It's only available for maybe this week. Seaton said,

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Speaker 2: maybe we could extend it for next week because the

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Speaker 2: Browns should win their game against the Jets. So when

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Speaker 2: the Browns lose, that's when we take down the Flacco

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Speaker 3: When the right.

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Speaker 4: When the Bengals lose, yeah, we all lose, Okay, that's

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Speaker 4: when we take the shirt down, It'll stay up for

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Speaker 4: as long as they're winning.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's right. He is with the Bengal.

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Speaker 5: Because that's as long as people are.

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Speaker 2: The official trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show. Cleveland

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Speaker 2: Browns are in the news because there was a story

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Speaker 2: or stories yesterday at Kevin Stefanski, the Browns head coach,

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Speaker 2: was asked, is you know Dean sanders son Shadoor getting

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Speaker 2: some opportunities with the first team getting some first team reps?

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Speaker 2: Because after all, you know, he would be a hit

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Speaker 2: away from Dylan Gabriel of getting in the game. And

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Speaker 2: Stefanski said no, that he was not getting first team reps.

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Speaker 2: So once again, the media's obsession with Shadoor Sanders getting

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Speaker 2: playing time is interesting because has anybody asked the question

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Speaker 2: to the Tennessee Titans about their backup quarterback getting any reps?

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Speaker 2: Because your rookie quarterback, number one pick hasn't been playing

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Speaker 2: very well. I think it's Brandon Allen might be the

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Speaker 2: backup quarterback. Is anybody asked that is anybody asking if

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Speaker 2: the backup to Jackson Dark is getting any reps with

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Speaker 2: the first team. The media is obsessed with this with

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Speaker 2: Shadoor Sanders, Dylan Gabriel is played, Okay, he's play. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that doesn't mean you've got to put in Shador. I

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Speaker 2: hope Chador gets an opportunity, but I hope it's not

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Speaker 2: one of those let's, you know, do him a solid

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Speaker 2: and have him play. Dylan Gabriel is a better quarterback

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Speaker 2: right now than Shador Sanders. It's plain and simple. Not

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Speaker 2: many fifth round draft picks get this kind of attention.

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Speaker 2: And granted it has to do with Dion and you know,

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Speaker 2: assorts with the Brown said, well, do you think if

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Speaker 2: his name Wasn't last name wasn't Sanders, would he have

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Speaker 2: been drafted higher? Would he have been given this opportunity?

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Speaker 2: I said, I don't obsess over this. I mean we

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Speaker 2: telling us basically he was going to try to manipulate

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Speaker 2: the draft. He was going to say, don't draft my son.

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Speaker 2: My son doesn't want to go play for you. And

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Speaker 2: then did that lead to him falling the free falling

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Speaker 2: I'm going to guess some of that. People looked at

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Speaker 2: his tape didn't think you know that he the way

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Speaker 2: he played, held on to the ball, he led to

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Speaker 2: a lot of sacks that. Yes, did he play well

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Speaker 2: Jackson State and Colorado. Yes, I put him third on

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Speaker 2: But I want to see if they have something. You know,

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Speaker 2: here's another thing nobody's talking about because they don't want

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Speaker 2: this year. I believe in Cleveland, Deshaun Watson could return

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Speaker 2: to being the starting quarterback with Cleveland. Let that sink in.

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Speaker 2: So this isn't just about Dylan Gabriel should do or Sanders.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if either our starting quarterbacks franchise quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: I hope they get the opportunity because next year, with

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Speaker 2: Late in the season, but I don't think anybody is

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Speaker 3: Away.

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Speaker 2: Is anybody saying, hey, is Quinn yours getting reps?

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Speaker 2: For see, it's we pick and choose and it's unfortunate

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Speaker 3: That's what we do.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Pauline, I saw the Stefanski clip, the Browns head

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Speaker 7: when Dylan Gabriel was a backup he got first team

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Speaker 7: difference is Dylan Gabriel is a young quarterback who needs

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Speaker 7: every starting rep in practice, and that's why Shure Door

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Speaker 7: Sanders doesn't get him.

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Speaker 3: That's the difference.

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Speaker 7: Any chance that the Browns somehow play Deshaun Watson later

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Speaker 7: in the season to showcase him.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I don't think anybody's going to trade for him, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean that's we've seen a lot of reclamation projects.

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Speaker 2: You know, Michael Vick was in a dog ring killing

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Speaker 2: say no, that'll never happen. I can't imagine a team

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Speaker 2: going you know, you know who are missy ingreetent is

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Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson. That's the guy we won as our franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 2: But nobody's saying anything about cam Ward's backup, are they?

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Speaker 2: And he hasn't played well at all, got roughed up

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Speaker 2: this last game, but nobody's saying, Man, is it Brandon Allen?

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Speaker 3: Is he like an A and M quarterback?

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Speaker 2: He's been around, But I don't nobody's saying anything Jackson

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Speaker 3: Is anybody bringing up Jackson?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 2: Is hey, just Jameis Winston? Get any reps here since

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Speaker 2: you probably won't be playing Russell Wilson. Nobody's saying any

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 7: By the way, DeShawn Watson is making forty six million

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Speaker 7: this year with the Browns and for sure forty six

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Speaker 7: million next year with the Browns.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we just we're so desperate for this story

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Speaker 2: I've been told that he has handled himself well.

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Speaker 3: He did have the speeding ticket.

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Speaker 2: I would never let my backup or third string quarterback

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Speaker 2: meet with the media. I don't know why the Browns

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Speaker 3: I don't think.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Russ had a comment, but that was social

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Speaker 2: media comment about Sean Payton. By the way, Sean Payton

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Speaker 8: The euphoria, the way that game unfolded, that was strictly

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Speaker 8: about dark. That was in no way, shape or form

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Speaker 8: be able to see how he might perceive that, but

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Speaker 8: coming off that win and watching how he played, Yeah,

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Speaker 8: that that wasn't any intention at all.

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Speaker 2: Okay, come on, okay, let's let's go around the room.

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Speaker 3: Todd, Well, that's your head, coach.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to you. Seaton, do you agree with

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Speaker 2: Sean Payton. This was not a shot at Russell Wilson Junior,

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Speaker 2: the third No, I do all right, Marvin, No, Paulie.

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Speaker 7: No, It's possible as subconscious by him, but it was

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Speaker 7: still conscious.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like I can wink at this like okay, but.

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Speaker 4: So like coach, so let's follow this threat. It was

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Speaker 4: about Jackson Dart because the backup dot dot dot is worse.

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Speaker 4: That's what you're saying, you're saying the backup is that

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Speaker 4: week is worse. Who is that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh that's right. It's the guy that I used

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Speaker 3: to coach. Oh, I see what you're doing.

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Speaker 5: Oh that's why you guys think I mean.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, that's not You guys think immediate twists everything.

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Speaker 2: You guys take it out of context. Always take it

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Speaker 2: out of context. All right, let's see poll question for

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Speaker 2: hour two. Jason Garrett, the contributor analyst to Football Night

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Speaker 3: Coming up, Vikings and the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, the JJ McCarthy situation not getting any better.

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Speaker 2: Carson Wentz, come on down, play again. This is a

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Speaker 2: It's not my most must win game of the weekend,

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Speaker 2: but it's up there with the Chargers. Like this is

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Speaker 2: the most must win game of the week, not the weekend,

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Speaker 2: because Thursday night at home, you got to win this game.

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Speaker 3: You guys have been sputtering.

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Speaker 2: We thought this was the new and improved version of

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Speaker 2: the Chargers and and we haven't seen that. So whole

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Speaker 2: question for hour two is what seedon? Yes, we have

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Speaker 2: up there right now.

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Speaker 4: More Unicorny, Victor Wembanyama or shohe Otani show he is

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Speaker 4: running away with this one.

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Speaker 5: I really disagree strongly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now I'm gonna go with with show.

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Speaker 4: Hey, yeah, I get it, you just have It's like

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Speaker 4: dude's like what seven six or seven four whatever it is.

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Speaker 4: It's got handles like crazy shoots from outside. He's like

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Speaker 4: who does that?

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Speaker 5: Nobody? Nobody does that?

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Speaker 3: No body, buddy.

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Speaker 4: I strongly disagree with this. Seventy five percent have show. Hey,

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Speaker 4: uh David in Phoenix, Good morning, David.

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Speaker 3: What's on your mind today?

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Speaker 9: Hey, good morning. I've been stup House of David on

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Speaker 9: Netflix and it made me think, is there a bigger

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Speaker 9: upset in competition than David versus Goliath? And that makes

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Speaker 9: me think of a pool question. Biggest upsets of course

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Speaker 9: Douglas over Tyson, miracle on ice, Leicester City went in

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Speaker 9: the Premier League, and of course David over Goliath.

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Speaker 3: All right, well, thank you David.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the point spread was when David

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Speaker 2: met Goliath, but I'm going to guess that Goliath was

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Speaker 2: a pretty big favorite there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Philistine sports books glath was a heavy favorite.

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Speaker 2: But they're they're begging you to take the David money

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Speaker 2: begging you. This felt like the Jets against the Colts

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Speaker 2: and Super Bowl three. People just didn't do their homework

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Speaker 2: on David, just like they didn't do their homework on

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Speaker 2: the Jets. They dismissed them. Nobody's going to stand up

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Speaker 2: to the big bad Baltimore Colts Johnny Unitas.

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Speaker 7: Yes, Molly, David a little bush league throwing a rock.

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Speaker 7: That's a little bit of a cheap shot. Use your fist,

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Speaker 7: use a hammer or whatever.

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Speaker 4: Show me where it was in the rules, Yeah, show

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Speaker 4: me in the rule book where he said he couldn't.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking. This was UFC before UFC.

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Speaker 4: Oh really, yes, it was sort of the Bill Belichick

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Speaker 4: really of street fighting because he found loopholes.

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Speaker 5: Oh there's no written rule, no written rule.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, who said Yeah? Bill was always scouring the

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Speaker 2: rule book there looking for a loophole. And I think

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Speaker 2: David did that with Cliath. And I'm going to say this,

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Speaker 2: I can say it now. I think Goliath might have

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Speaker 2: been on performance dancing drugs to get that big Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying.

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Speaker 3: I'm just say it now. I think that there may

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Speaker 2: For He had more than ten commandments. Now nobody knows,

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Speaker 2: And it's not like I'm not worried about Vegas. Vegas

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Speaker 2: But those things stand out. They are looking for these things.

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Speaker 2: That sound right, Marvin A little bit now. Terry Rozier

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Speaker 2: Once again, this is in the NBA. It's the FBI

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Speaker 2: We're monitoring the FBI with their press conference that started

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Speaker 12: You know, I said this.

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Speaker 12: And to me, he has everything.

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Speaker 6: way I did it was you spend so much time

436
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Speaker 6: watching film, so much time knowing the plan inside and out.

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Speaker 12: You know, I would drive around.

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Speaker 6: When I'd be driving home, I turn the radio off,

439
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Speaker 6: and I'd call plays out loud, right, I mean literally,

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Speaker 6: you do everything you can to create reps for yourself

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Speaker 6: to get yourself ready to go. And you know, i'd

442
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Speaker 6: throw after practice and you're always doing stuff because you're

443
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Speaker 6: standing on the sideline, and I would used to call

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Speaker 6: the plays in and the quarterback gets hurt and you

445
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Speaker 6: put the headset down and it's like, okay, you go

446
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Speaker 6: from zero to one hundred miles an hour. But you know,

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Speaker 6: the question is do those three or four, five or

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Speaker 6: ten reps during the week. Is that what allows you

449
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Speaker 6: to play well? Is it better to have the guy

450
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Speaker 6: who's playing all those snaps anyway, take those and then

451
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Speaker 6: you just have to have a relief pitcher's mentality to

452
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Speaker 6: go in and function.

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Speaker 12: And you know, so it's a tricky thing.

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Speaker 6: But you know, Troy Aikman, who's a first ballot Hall

455
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Speaker 6: of Famer, he got all the reps, and so I

456
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Speaker 6: think if you're Dylan Gabriel, he probably deserves all the

457
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Speaker 6: reps too, because he's got a lot of catching up

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Speaker 6: to do.

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Speaker 3: Now give me it. For instance, you're driving home, you

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Speaker 3: turn off the radio and then what are you yelling at?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean literally you're saying out loud, Okay, this

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Speaker 6: is bunch right, motor scout right five to twenty five

463
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Speaker 6: up post right.

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Speaker 12: I mean that's what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: And can you imagine being in the car next to

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Speaker 2: you and they're watching you by shouting out the hand

467
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Speaker 2: signals the whole thing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I can't tell you the number of times it happened,

469
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Speaker 6: like who what is this doing? But you know, yeah,

470
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Speaker 6: you have to steal reps anyway you can. And one

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Speaker 6: thing a little bit of a different topic. You know,

472
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Speaker 6: when I became the head coach in Dallas, there was

473
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Speaker 6: this virtual reality thing that became available to us and

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Speaker 6: we had it for a while. And the reason we

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Speaker 6: had it was probably because of my experience as a

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Speaker 6: backup quarterback never getting reps. And we created a virtual

477
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Speaker 6: reality room where backup quarterbacks could go in there and

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Speaker 6: go through Essentially they.

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Speaker 12: Were hearing the play from the coach going to the

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Speaker 12: line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 6: You could look left, you could look right, there's Dez

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Speaker 6: Brian over, here's here's Jason Whitten.

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Speaker 12: I mean, it was it was a real thing, and

484
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Speaker 12: for me, I thought it was invaluable. Not for the starter.

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Speaker 12: The starter is getting all those rests. But the guy

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Speaker 12: who doesn't get the work.

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Speaker 6: And I know jayde Daniels has done a lot of

488
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Speaker 6: work with this, but I think that's a real thing

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Speaker 6: and that's something can really help people going forward.

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Speaker 3: Wait a minute, so I go into a room, Do

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Speaker 3: I have to put on glasses?

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Speaker 10: You do?

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Speaker 2: And I'm now the defense isn't going to hit me,

494
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Speaker 2: but how are they moving? So I know where I'm

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Speaker 2: going to, like my hot receiver going through progressions. How

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Speaker 2: much time do I have to do this?

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Speaker 6: Well, we had all these crazy cameras at practice, and

498
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Speaker 6: these three hundred and sixty degree cameras that they made up,

499
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Speaker 6: and you would have it like fifteen yards behind the

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Speaker 6: ball and everybody you had to stay away from the camera.

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Speaker 6: But literally you would hear the offensive coordinator call to play,

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Speaker 6: go in the huddle, walk up to the line, and

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Speaker 6: you could do this and this with these with these

504
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Speaker 6: heads that's on and literally there's des Brian. It's not

505
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Speaker 6: an image of Dez Brian, that's him right there. And

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Speaker 6: you see the safety creeping down and you see the

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Speaker 6: strong dog pressure coming over here, and to me, I

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Speaker 6: would go in there. Afterwards, I'm like, this is incredible.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I love the idea of it because, like

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Speaker 6: I said, I was the guy that was on the

511
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Speaker 6: highway calling out the place right, So I think it's

512
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Speaker 6: the way of the future myself.

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Speaker 2: Jason Garrett, NBC Football Night in America's studio analyst Sunday Night,

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Speaker 2: it'll be the Packers at the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: Which team do you have a better handle on with

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Speaker 3: these two?

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Speaker 12: Oh, that's a great question.

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Speaker 6: That's why you get paid the money, Dan Patrick, because

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Speaker 6: I think there's questions about the handle of each of them.

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Speaker 12: You know, I think Pittsburgh, I think you have to.

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Speaker 6: Feel good about what they've done with Aaron Rodgers playing there,

522
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Speaker 6: He's played at a high level for them.

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Speaker 12: They've done a.

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Speaker 6: Good job offensively. The defense where they made a huge investment,

525
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Speaker 6: that's a concern. I mean, Joe Flacco had been a

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Speaker 6: Cincinnati Bengal for about a week. He went down there

527
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Speaker 6: and he looked like you know, Kenny Anderson and and

528
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Speaker 6: you know Boomersias and wrapped in one. I mean, he

529
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Speaker 6: was fantastic. So some question marks about Pittsburgh. Their ability

530
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Speaker 6: to defend the pass really comes up. So I have

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Speaker 6: concerns there. Green Bay, they've just been a little up

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Speaker 6: and down. They've They've had some ugly wins. I really

533
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Speaker 6: like their team. I like their defense. I think Hafley

534
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Speaker 6: has done an excellent job. You know, Michael Parsons has

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Speaker 6: been so impactful, you know, opening things up for other guys.

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Speaker 12: But then in the big moments the other day he.

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Speaker 6: Had three sacks, So I think you're starting to see

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Speaker 6: that thing mesh a little bit.

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Speaker 12: I love Jordan Love.

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Speaker 6: I think he's still getting to a point where he

541
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Speaker 6: needs to be a consistent player week in and week

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Speaker 6: out for them, And I think a big part of

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Speaker 6: that is them, you know, making Josh Jacobs.

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Speaker 12: A part of it.

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Speaker 6: So again he doesn't have too much burdens, so they

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Speaker 6: both been kind of fits and starts. Green Bay went

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Speaker 6: a little bit ugly, Pittsburgh some question marks on their defense.

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Speaker 12: In the end, I like green Bay's team more.

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Speaker 3: The Chiefs look like a completely different team.

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Speaker 2: Now you give Mahomes a couple of weapons in there,

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Speaker 2: Rashi Rice, you get Worthy back, they look like the

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Speaker 2: best team in the AFC.

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Speaker 6: Well, we talk about this every week on Football Night

554
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Speaker 6: in America, and when the Chiefs are struggling early on,

555
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Speaker 6: you know, everyone starts to get down on them. That's

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Speaker 6: the kind of world we live in. And my response

557
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Speaker 6: always is, have you guys been watching for the last decade?

558
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Speaker 6: Has anyone been watching this? I mean, this team is historic.

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Speaker 6: The coach is incredible, the quarterbacks incredible, the defense. You know,

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Speaker 6: they have these Hall of Fame players.

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Speaker 12: So to me, it was just a matter of, you know,

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Speaker 12: they had some question marks on the offensive line. They're

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Speaker 12: still working through that.

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Speaker 6: It's better the last couple of weeks, but you know,

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Speaker 6: getting their guys back, I think that's a big thing.

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Speaker 6: And Rashid Rice a couple of years ago, I'll never

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Speaker 6: forget this. I did the playoff game between Miami and

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Speaker 6: Kansas City, the freezing cold game up there in Kansas City,

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Speaker 6: and if you remember, Kansas City got shell ACKed.

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Speaker 12: I think it was Christmas Day against the Raiders. They

571
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Speaker 12: were terrible.

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Speaker 6: And it almost looked to me the following week that

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Speaker 6: they said, Okay, here's who we can trust. Can trust Mahomes,

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Speaker 6: I can trust Kelsey, I can trust Pacheco, and we

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Speaker 6: can trust for she Rice.

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Speaker 12: Those are the only guys getting it. And that's what

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Speaker 12: they did.

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Speaker 6: That's what they did in the playoffs, and they went

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Speaker 6: all the way to the super Bowl kind of taking

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Speaker 6: that approach. So it was like they sat down together

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Speaker 6: and said, this is the approach we need to take.

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Speaker 6: This is how we're going to win. And I feel

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Speaker 6: like they've done that again. And when they get these

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Speaker 6: pieces back, when Rashi Rice comes back, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 6: Hollywood Brown is a secondary player, Travis Kelcey is a

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Speaker 6: secondary player. You know Gray is a secondary or a

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Speaker 6: third player them, And so you get them back into

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Speaker 6: their slots and now they're really hard to stop because

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Speaker 6: Rashi Rice can handle the burden and they did a

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Speaker 6: great job getting him acclimated last week.

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Speaker 2: Your Cowboys or your former team, that offense looks really good,

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Speaker 2: and Dak looks I've always said when Dak plays and

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Speaker 2: he's healthy, he plays well. It's just keeping him healthy.

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Speaker 2: But what do you make of did we underestimate the

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Speaker 2: Cowboys this year after the Mike Parsons situation.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think if you look at the team, they're

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Speaker 6: set up to have success on offense. And like I

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Speaker 6: said about the Chiefs, the way I feel about Dak

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Speaker 6: just haven't been with him for a while. If anybody's

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Speaker 6: been watching football objectively without an agenda for the last

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Speaker 6: ten years. You say, this guy's a really good football player.

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Speaker 6: He's played well from his rookie year on and injuries

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Speaker 6: have been a factor for him. Playoff success has been

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Speaker 6: a factor to me. He played really well in the

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Speaker 6: playoffs early on. They haven't played quite as well in

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Speaker 6: recent years. But you know, this guy is a fantastic player.

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Speaker 6: So what they've done is three first round picks on

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Speaker 6: the offensive line. They have a very good tight end.

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Speaker 6: You know you pay Ceedee Lamb, he's one of the

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Speaker 6: best playmakers in the league. You have Pickens who to me,

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Speaker 6: Dak was going to do a great job getting him acclimated.

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Speaker 6: Javonte was someone who I love coming out. It was

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Speaker 6: just a question of is he back from the injury.

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Speaker 6: So there's a lot of weapons on that side of it.

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Speaker 6: So it doesn't surprise me that they've played well as

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Speaker 6: long as for the most part, the quarterback stays healthy.

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Speaker 6: The question was on defense, and even before the Micah

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Speaker 6: Parsons trade, I felt like they were under resourced on defense.

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Speaker 6: You know, who are the marquee guys and are they

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Speaker 6: really marquee guys? And I felt like Michaeh Parsons made

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Speaker 6: a lot of people on that defense way better. He

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Speaker 6: made the other rushers better, he made the cover guys better.

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Speaker 6: So you take him out of them to a defense

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Speaker 6: that I've felt needed help anyway, and you're probably seeing

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Speaker 6: what you thought you'd see. They're struggling to stop people.

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Speaker 6: It was better last week against Washington, but Washington's top

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Speaker 6: three receivers were out, so we'll find out more as

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Speaker 6: they go, but there's no doubt they're a juggernaut on

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Speaker 6: offense and the questions on defense are real.

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Speaker 2: Great to talk to. You have fun on Sunday night.

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Speaker 2: Thank you again, Jason, You're the best. Jason Garrett, NBC

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Speaker 2: Football Night in America. And that'll be Sunday night. It'll

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Speaker 2: be the Packers at the Steelers kickoff A twenty eastern.

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Speaker 3: All right, we'll take a break.

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Speaker 2: Got a lot of phone calls once again, keeping an

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Speaker 2: eye on the FBI press conference involving, among others, Chauncey

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Speaker 2: Billups and Terry Rozier, a journeyman with the Miami Heat

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Speaker 2: with gambling allegations and still not sure Terry Rozier felt

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Speaker 2: like he was under investigation for NBA gambling, whereas Chauncey

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Speaker 2: Billups might have been for poker keeping on that uh

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Speaker 2: and we'll give you any answers that we have in

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Speaker 2: any guests that.

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Speaker 3: Would be appropriate for this situation. We're back after this.

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Speaker 1: listen live. Update the poll results, Seaton.

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Speaker 4: Pole results, Dan having an off air conversation. Oh, I'm

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Speaker 4: happy to give you the Pole results.

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Speaker 2: Okay, stalling, installing or unicorny shoe hey Otani still has

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Speaker 2: seventy five percent of that vote. Okay, beating Victor wiman Yama.

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Speaker 2: I think people are grossly underappreciating how much of a

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Speaker 2: unicorn that Frenchman is.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna die on that hill, aren't you.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if I'm willing to give my life

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Speaker 5: for it, but I just don't agree with you.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: So some of the details here from the FBI the

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Speaker 2: press conference. The FB called out the mafia families, the

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Speaker 2: big Ones in New York Lukesey, Banano, Gambino Genovici, and

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Speaker 2: they were allegedly involved in backing rigged poker games to

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Speaker 2: scam victims out of hundreds of thousands of dollars. This

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Speaker 2: according to officials. Three of the more than thirty defendants

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Speaker 2: targeted in today's indictments allegedly involved in both sports betting

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Speaker 2: and fraudulent gambling scheme. This according to the FBI. During

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Speaker 2: the poker games in one of the alleged schemes, those

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Speaker 2: involved used technology such as poker chip tray analyzers and

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Speaker 2: X ray table that could read cards face down. On

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Speaker 2: the damn they could read the cards face down, according

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Speaker 2: to the prosecutors, victims allegedly cheated out of seven million

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Speaker 2: dollars in the poker's scheme. The FBI said that they

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Speaker 2: never take their eyes off the Italian organized crime families.

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Speaker 2: Uh so, I guess the NBA portion of this. Officials

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Speaker 2: dubbed the NBA gambling scheme operation nothing but net Oh

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Speaker 2: Boy one scheme Operation Royal Flood.

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Speaker 5: Not in anyone we know is.

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Speaker 3: Nothing but.

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Speaker 2: Three of the defendants involved in both schemes. So fraudulent

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Speaker 2: poker games. Let's see, professional athletes allegedly used as face

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Speaker 2: cards to lure victims. So this is where they mentioned

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Speaker 2: Chauncey Billups. The so called face cards included Chauncey Billups,

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Speaker 2: who at the time of the scheme was a former

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Speaker 2: player now the current head coach of the Blazers, Damon Jones,

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Speaker 2: former NBA player, the victims of legedly referred to as

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Speaker 2: phish people, had no idea.

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Speaker 3: Everybody else at the table was in on the scam.

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Speaker 2: Once the game was underway, the defendants fleeced the victims

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Speaker 2: out of tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars per game.

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Speaker 2: The Mafia families allegedly fixed underground poker games.

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Speaker 3: NBA betting. Six arrest have to do with NBA gambling.

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Speaker 2: There's a whole lot here, but the mob reportedly involved

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Speaker 2: in the widespread spread gambling. This according to Cash Buttel

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Speaker 2: FBI director speaking at the press conference.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Paul, you can't believe in anything anymore.

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Speaker 10: Dan.

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Speaker 7: Remember when we were kids and the Mafia would hold

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Speaker 7: straight up poker games. You could go in there secure.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sad, I remember the good old days when the

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Speaker 4: Mafia was shaking down big organizations, not private poker games.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Desperate times, falling on hard times, desperate times.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: It's unclear from reading the NBC report if Chauncey Billups

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Speaker 7: is involved or responsible or a victim in this. They

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Speaker 7: were said they were using pro athletes to hook in

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Speaker 7: other people. Was he being used or was he part

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Speaker 7: of it? It's unclear what.

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Speaker 3: Sounds like he was being used.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, probably paid to bring in fish to have a

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Speaker 2: illegal poker game.

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Speaker 5: That's messed up.

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Speaker 2: And this might have to do with Gilbert Arenas when

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Speaker 2: he was arrested, you know, was it an illegal poker ring?

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Speaker 3: And was the mob involved in this?

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Speaker 2: Once again, I have a source on this, but I

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to be flippant in the information I

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Speaker 2: have because I haven't had somebody verify stuff that went

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Speaker 2: on with Gilbert Arenas with his poker situation there.

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Speaker 3: But there's a lot going on here. Yeah see, Yeah, a.

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Speaker 5: Lot going on there.

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Speaker 7: You know we're saying is Chauncey Phillips was always a

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Speaker 7: lockdown defendant?

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Speaker 3: Wow? Too soon?

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Speaker 5: The conversation we've been having is should we make that

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Speaker 5: joke on hair?

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Speaker 10: Yes? Or no?

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Speaker 3: I felt good about it, nothing personal, No, No, I

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Speaker 3: thought it was a little too early for that.

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Speaker 5: All I said is a lockdown defendant.

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Speaker 3: Lockdown defended. I'm supposed to be a journalist here. This

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Speaker 3: is a ring.

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Speaker 7: You don't want to be part of Oh, let's go

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Speaker 7: gambling humor. Come on, Fritz to get in there.

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Speaker 3: No, don't. Oh, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: Oh.

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Speaker 2: By the way, so we have the Flacco around and

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Speaker 2: find out T shirt available until the Bengals lose.

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Speaker 3: We also, I think have a I think we have

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Speaker 3: a Hole of Good T shirt ready to go to

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Speaker 3: I believe we do.

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Speaker 2: Sources close to me tell me that for a limited

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Speaker 2: time up on the web site. I think this week

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Speaker 2: is going to be a Hall of Good T shirt?

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Speaker 7: Yes, Pauling, can we send the first one to Joe Johnson,

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Speaker 7: the Godfather, the h OOVG.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that he's going to appreciate being a

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Speaker 3: hale of Good? Nope, I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Jamal Crawford was okay with it. Jordan in Utah,

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Speaker 3: Hi Jordan, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 10: Hey Dan?

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Speaker 13: How's it going?

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Speaker 3: Great?

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Speaker 12: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Great time?

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Speaker 13: Caller sixty two one sixty five. I was listening yesterday

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Speaker 13: the conversation about the most boring grades of all time

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Speaker 13: in the NBA, and I kept thinking, you guys were

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Speaker 13: leaving somebody out that plays today. In my opinion, maybe

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Speaker 13: you disagree, could be path Duncan when he's finished at

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Speaker 13: Nicola Jokic.

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Speaker 3: Nicola Jokic, What he's not boring? I mean he's awesome.

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Speaker 3: His passing, the top five passer in the league.

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Speaker 5: I think we've referred to him as boring though many, many,

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Speaker 5: many times on the show.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, not me understanding the greatness of being you know,

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Speaker 2: a white guy who can't really jump, who.

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Speaker 3: Was a great passer and can you jump out of

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Speaker 3: the gym you were just talking about.

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Speaker 2: I know then I lied about my height, that I

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Speaker 2: wanted it to be more impressive, that I was dunking,

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Speaker 2: that I was six two not six three. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean I I played an elevated game, you know, literally, Yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 3: O contre Montfrere, you always said Nicole Yoaku was not

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Speaker 3: a highlight guy.

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Speaker 2: No, so boring, all right, feel bad, He's awesome. Final

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Speaker 2: hour on the way. Fritzy's here, Seaton's here, Marv, Polly

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Speaker 2: and yours truly back after this