1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: The last day of pajama football. Welcome bird Gang. On 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: today's show, Paul calBC joins me, No, the pads were 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: not worn on Monday. Still plenty to talk about, though, 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: Coplakoi says, the offense is going through growing pains. Hyler 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: Murray very honest about his rehab. But first, yeah, we 6 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 1: need a mustache of dates. It's Cardinals Cover two, episode 7 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: six fifty seven, and it starts now. 8 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 9 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 3: Bud to Baker, what heart? 10 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: What rent? 11 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 3: This guy's unbelievable. 12 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai Crowd, partner of 13 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Acycardinals 14 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 2: dot com, Slash podcasts. 15 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 3: He's a a ten half of five? He's it again? 16 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 3: So far Harry Magic? 17 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: Whoa? 18 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: Here's Craig Griolud. 19 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: So we found the one player and maybe there is 20 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: a second player, but the first legit player that I 21 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: was presence when the words I like it were uttered 22 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: to Paul CALVISI with respects to the mustache that is 23 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: still visible here as we begin the first full week 24 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 1: of Cardinals training camp powered by Cox, and that one 25 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: individual inside linebacker Josh Woods says. 26 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 3: Paul, keep it, Craig, if you're scoring at home, let's 27 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 3: keep it accurate here. Okay, Aaron Brewer long snapper, extraordinary. 28 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 3: He's in favor of it. He's a double thumbs up. 29 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 3: But then I thought he. 30 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: Ripped you and said, yeah. 31 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 3: I think he's in favorite because he wants me to 32 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 3: keep it. So that just means more mockery and shame 33 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,559 Speaker 3: from him. Okay, he can foist upon me. Although DJ 34 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 3: Humphries did give me a shout out. He said, Paul 35 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 3: ep all business with a mustache, So I'm not sure 36 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 3: if that was a vote of endorsement or a ridicule. 37 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 3: I'm not exactly sure on that either way. You know, 38 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 3: let's just you know, I don't want to go all 39 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers here, you know, keep my mustache out of 40 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 3: your coach's mouth or anything. But you know, it's so far. 41 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 3: It's a training camp tradition. I'm not really sure why 42 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 3: I've kept it so far, but according to the wife, 43 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 3: it's days are numbered. Let's just put it that way. 44 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 3: The real decision maker in this process. 45 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: Well, let's be honest. I mean, we are still technically 46 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: in the month of July, so it is still the summer. 47 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 1: We haven't rolled over into August yet. 48 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 3: It's true. 49 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: Twenty four hours from now it will be August, so 50 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: you do have some time to play with. 51 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 3: That is true. The mustache, can it? What will look 52 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: like in pats? You know, we don't know. I mean 53 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 3: right now, you know, pajama ball. The mustache has made 54 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 3: the cut. But once we get full contact, full padded football, 55 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 3: guess what I think it's going to lag behind him. 56 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 3: It might be one of the initial wave of cuts 57 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 3: in this camp. 58 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: By the way, as we speak here Monday, July thirty first, yes, 59 00:02:55,200 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: the earliest day permitted that the Arizona Cardinals could have 60 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: been in pads. Yet we walk out there at State 61 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: Farm Stadium and what do we see. We do not 62 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: see pads. One more day of pajama ball, in the 63 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 1: words of head coach Jonathan Again, and the pads will 64 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: come on Tuesday, August first, we had a chance to 65 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: catch up with Josh Woods for the Red Sea Report, 66 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: which will air. That interview will air on Tuesday. But 67 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: you can get a sense, Paul, at these it's. 68 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 3: Not just the coaches. 69 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: The players are anxious to kind of see what they're 70 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: made of what their teammates are made of. And that's 71 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: when the pads come on. 72 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 3: Because you don't know, you truly don't know yet what 73 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 3: some of these players are all about. How can you 74 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 3: know whether an offensive lineman is a true candidate to 75 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 3: make this team? An undrafted rookie, a defensive lineman, you 76 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 3: know whether he's got a shot at a rotation spot. 77 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,839 Speaker 3: You don't know an inside linebacker like Josh Woods. Look, 78 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 3: if you can't as JG I like, is good football 79 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 3: tra If you can't shock and shed, you know, get 80 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 3: ready and get to the ball, then you're worthless. You 81 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 3: can look great flowing sideline, this sideline in shorts. What 82 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 3: do you look like when you have a three hundred 83 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 3: and thirty pound guard who's pulling to knock you on 84 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 3: your on your rear before you get to the ball carrier. 85 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 3: So you're gonna find out a lot. We see it 86 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 3: in O line, D line all the time. You know, 87 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 3: that's the first thing I cannot wait for. And yeah, 88 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 3: I had to pump my brakes like everyone else. I 89 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 3: thought it was gonna be today, the full pads. In fact, 90 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 3: I even sent out a tweet flashing back to the 91 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 3: will Hernandez against JJ Watt heavyweight tilt from last year, 92 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 3: only to learn about an hour later, no CALVC. The 93 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 3: first full padded practice is tomorrow, So okay, if you 94 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 3: want to get ready at Paul Calvc the Twitter account, 95 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 3: you can see the aftermath of that heavyweight fight from 96 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 3: last year. Although I'm very curious what the potential is 97 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 3: for a fight this time around after what we witnessed. 98 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 3: I'm back together Saturday. 99 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was interesting because we hear what coaches have 100 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: to say, and then okay, do they live up to 101 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: what they say? Do you do you practice what you preach? 102 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: And I think we saw that, Yes, Jonathan Gannon does 103 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: practice what he preaches. The no fighting allowed, non negotiable 104 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: is what JAG said. All right, okay, well sure, but 105 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 1: what happens if there is a fight a skirmish? Well, 106 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: there was one, you mentioned it on Saturday. It was 107 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: during red zone work, offensive line, defensive line, a little 108 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,559 Speaker 1: bit more physical, a little bit more intense. Again, still 109 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: no pads, but there was an altercation. Didn't quite see 110 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: from my vantage point if punches were thrown. I think 111 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: it was more pushing and shoving, but enough that Jan. 112 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 3: There was one over the top hands. Okay, I think 113 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 3: it was LJ. Collier came over the top with a haymaker. 114 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 3: Now he didn't land it because there were guys in 115 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 3: between him. Okay, but there was an attempt to come 116 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 3: over the top with a big old swim of sorts. 117 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: Good thing he didn't landed. It was offensive lineman Dennis 118 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: Daily and defensive lineman LJ. Collier. James Connor tried to 119 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: calm Dennis down a little bit, but they did not 120 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: finish practice. Jonathan Gannon came over, had brief words with 121 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: each individually, and then you see seventy one Daily ninety 122 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:27,559 Speaker 1: one Collier make that long walk to the other side 123 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: of the field, down the ramp into the locker room, 124 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 1: never to be seen again in practice. 125 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 3: You know a side note on that is they're walking 126 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 3: off going to an empty locker room. I'm saying to 127 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 3: the guy next to me, they might want to send 128 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 3: a third person in there as an intermediary, because what 129 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 3: happens if those two guys get into an empty locker 130 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 3: room and there's still a root and in a two 131 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 3: wampman and a stallman. But from all negations, that did 132 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 3: not happen, And you know what that long walk of 133 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 3: shame if you will to the far side of the 134 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 3: field and down the ramp and then all the way 135 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 3: down to the Cardinals locker room. I'm guess those two 136 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 3: guys are thinking to themselves, I'm losing valuable reps. Can't 137 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 3: make the club from the tub. The old saying for 138 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 3: guys who are injured during training camp, you got to 139 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 3: do everything you can to get out in that field 140 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 3: and prove yourself in the eyes in front of the 141 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 3: eyes of the decision makers. So yeah, if you're LJ. 142 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,239 Speaker 3: Collier and Dennis Daily, guess what you lost the latter 143 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 3: part of that practice, and it sent a message. Not 144 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 3: only did it fulfill the words of Jonathan gannon quote 145 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 3: non negotiable because you know, look, and I've had this 146 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 3: argument with Wolf. Great. Okay, Wolf obviously likes it. He 147 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 3: thinks there's a place for fighting. It's part of the 148 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 3: physicality of the game. Here's what I differ with Wolf, 149 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 3: and we almost get into a fighter, because if you 150 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 3: do have a fight in a game, it costs you 151 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 3: fifteen yards. That fifteen yards might give the other team 152 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 3: a first down. In the case of an LJ. Coller 153 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 3: if he's the one who gets flagged up because he's 154 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 3: the one. From what I remember, what I could tell 155 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 3: was throwing the punch. It's always the second in, it's 156 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 3: always the guy. Look what did what did Robert Salad 157 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 3: tell the New York Jets recently? He said, you know what, 158 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 3: fighting okay, if you're pushing and shoving between the neck 159 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 3: and the waist, okay. But if you throw a punch, 160 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 3: the official is apt to throw a flag, and if 161 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 3: that extends a drive, gives a team a first down 162 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 3: and a third down stop. We saw that at times 163 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 3: last year, not necessarily via fighting. How many times did 164 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 3: you see a Cardinals team that was top three and 165 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 3: penalties incurred give the other sustain a drive because of 166 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 3: something you did? You stop them? Then, not only is 167 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 3: that a first down, it's just so deflating, it's so demoralizing. 168 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 3: Instead of the offense leaving the field and you going 169 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 3: over to get a gatorade, you're out there playing at 170 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 3: least three more snaps. So I get it, And once 171 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 3: again that's why I differ with Wolf. In a league 172 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 3: where little things are big things, something like that getting 173 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 3: flagged up for a fight, guess what can cost you 174 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 3: a game? 175 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: Ultimately, well, even worse than the yards. Okay, what if 176 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 1: you do strike in the helmet all right, now, all 177 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: of a sudden, perhaps you've broken something that costs you 178 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: games and just the immediate loss. If you get ejected, 179 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: now you're down a starter or key reserve, and that 180 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: hurts your team. Goes back to what the head coach 181 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: keeps saying, team first, individual second. That's why it is 182 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: non negotiable, even if it is just a couple pushing 183 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: and shoving. No, no, no, Your teammates control your temper. 184 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're dressing three inside linebackers and you get 185 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 3: thrown out on game day, you're an integral part of 186 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 3: all the special teams. Like let's say just Josh Woods. 187 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 3: Just us as him as an example. He's your backup 188 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 3: inside linebacker on game day. He's on every single special team. 189 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 3: He gets thrown out of the game. Now Jeff Rogers 190 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 3: is scrambling. Okay, wait a minute, I gotta fill four 191 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 3: spots on four different special teams. And that guy's not 192 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 3: nearly as adept or as season at that spot. He 193 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 3: might be a liability in that special team's gaff can 194 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 3: cost you a game. So I get the policy of 195 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 3: a Jonathan Cannon, but doesn't mean the tempers won't flare. 196 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 3: Guys are trying to earn a living, trying to earn 197 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 3: a spot on this roster. And I truly think Craig 198 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 3: and a number of players have confirmed this. There is 199 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 3: a vibe that things really are wide open, that there 200 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 3: are very few made men on this roster, both because 201 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 3: you have new decision makers and guess what, there's been 202 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 3: a lot of turnover. Look at the d line room, 203 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 3: how do you truly distinguish, Look at the cornerback room 204 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 3: after Marco Wilson, What exactly is the pecking order? You 205 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 3: don't know? And so the tight ends after a Trey 206 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 3: McBride and Jeff Swain. So there's a lot of competition. 207 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 3: Unlike a lot of camps with a lot of teams 208 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 3: where they're just gonna maybe fill the last two or 209 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 3: three roster spots, that is not the case with the 210 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinals twenty twenty three. 211 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: That was the highlight, the skirmish between Daily and Callier 212 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: on Saturday. Some other things that stood out on back 213 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: together Saturday. It was not a good day for the 214 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 1: quarterbacks all totaled. Colt McCoy got picked off a couple 215 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: of different times that I saw Marco Wilson, Chris Barnes 216 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: off of deflection. McCoy speaking Monday post practice, asked about 217 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: the offense. Quote, we're going through some growing pains end quote. 218 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: And you would expect that, especially when it's a brand 219 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: news system, and even for Colt, someone who's been in 220 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: the league a long, long time. Different terminology we heard 221 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: from Drew Petsing earlier, the footwork that he wants these 222 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: quarterbacks to learn and use. Even if you are a veteran, 223 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: you're being asked to do different things, subtle things, but 224 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: it still maybe knocks you off a little bit which 225 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: you're typically used to doing, and you've got to retrain 226 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: your brain a little bit. And that's why it's here 227 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: in late July, early August, and we've got some time 228 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: before now and the start of the regular season. 229 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 3: So the Cardinals are going to Minnesota for joint practices 230 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 3: later in August. And Kevin O'Connell was miked up on 231 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 3: NFL Network Saturday Back Together Saturday, he was talking Kirk 232 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 3: Cousins was talking just about how much farther along they 233 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 3: are in year two of the system. It was a 234 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 3: radical change in Minnesota. Now, the Vikings had a heck 235 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 3: of a year. They made the playoffs. Obviously, they lost 236 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 3: their Giants in round one. They went eleven to zero 237 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 3: and one possession games, just remarkable. But the point I'm 238 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 3: making here is in retrospect, they talked about all the 239 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 3: growing pains of installing a brand new system with the 240 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 3: brand new staff, totally different schemes. So, you know what, 241 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 3: as much as the Cardinals are going to try and 242 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 3: put a good face on things and be positive about everything, 243 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 3: the reality is exactly what Colt McCoy said. There are 244 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 3: gonna be some groin pains. There are gonna be guys 245 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 3: getting used to this system. It's completely different from what 246 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 3: Cliff Kingsbury ran, from the spread to more of a 247 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 3: straight ahead power attack. And you know what, with that 248 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 3: in mind, I think they would be well served if 249 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 3: if they can settle on a starting offensive line sooner 250 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 3: than later, If they can settle on okay, who exactly 251 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 3: is going to be the starting X receiver? How is 252 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 3: this tight end rotation gonna filter out? If they can 253 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 3: decide on rolls sooner than later, I think it probably 254 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 3: will help in terms of getting traction and being effective 255 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 3: and getting to the point where you're playing instead of 256 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 3: thinking in a brand new playbook. 257 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: You look at the growing pains of quarterbacks in new systems. 258 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: How about you look back to twenty thirteen Bruce arians 259 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer and how bad Carson looked that first half 260 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: of the season, to the point where we're getting phone 261 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: calls postgame that perhaps Drew Stanton should step in and 262 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: Palmer should be on the bench. And I've heard you 263 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: time and again, Paul reference that whether it was the 264 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: quarterback or the pass catchers not on the same page. 265 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: But they worked it out, and mistakes are going to 266 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: be made. You just hope that they're made now in 267 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:08,479 Speaker 1: training camp, in preseason, not in September and October. 268 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 3: The intel I got later on that was that it 269 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 3: was primarily the fault of the receivers because it was 270 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 3: such a different scheme for the receivers. There were so 271 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 3: many red routes that Carson would read it correctly, what 272 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 3: the coverage presented would then dictate what a receiver supposed 273 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 3: to do. The receivers, who didn't have the acumen of 274 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 3: a polished NFL quarterback and reading defenses were running the 275 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 3: wrong routes, so the ball was going to the wrong 276 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 3: spot and the ball was being picked off. But would 277 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 3: Carson come out to the postgame press garments and put 278 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 3: the blame the culpability on the receivers. Absolutely not, So 279 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 3: we found out later that it was much more the 280 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 3: receiver's fault than the quarterback's fault. But once they ironed 281 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 3: that out about midway through the season, they took off 282 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 3: and you saw what the offense was designed to be. 283 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 3: How long is that going to take? In some ways, 284 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 3: I think the fact that Colt McCoy is there for 285 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 3: the beginning of this season, and my gut feeling is 286 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 3: it is going to be the beginning of the season. 287 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 3: We'll see when Kyler shows up, But he didn't give 288 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 3: any solid indication that he's a certainty for Week one, 289 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 3: So until we hear otherwise, I'm going with Colt McCoy 290 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 3: as a starter at Washington and because he has run 291 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 3: a very similar scheme like this before, basically has run 292 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 3: it all, seen it all at this point fourteenth season, 293 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 3: I think that is a bit of a benefit for 294 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 3: the rest of the offense. Does he have the skill 295 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 3: set of a Kyler Murray, Does he present some of 296 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 3: the conundrums and headaches to a defense that a Kyler 297 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 3: Murray does absolutely not. But in terms of actually executing 298 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 3: the offense and running things and making sure guys are 299 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 3: going to be in the right spots and guys in 300 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 3: the huddle who have questions, because you know that's going 301 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 3: to come up on game day in the heat of 302 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 3: the moment when an opposing defensive coordinator is dialing up 303 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 3: stuff you never expected. That's where I think it'll be 304 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 3: ultra valuable to have the experience of a Colt McCoy. 305 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: Put it this way, when mistakes are made, whether here 306 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: in training camp or in the regular seas, because it's 307 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: cult and his knowledge of the game lean more towards 308 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: it not being the quarterback's fault until told otherwise, based 309 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: again off past history that we know as Cardinal fans 310 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: and whoever's been under center, because the quarterback will always 311 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: take the blame and deflect the praise. So just because 312 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: Colt didn't have a great day on Saturday, maybe it's 313 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: not just Colt McCoy. 314 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 3: And you know what, I don't expect it to be 315 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 3: nearly as intricate as what the Cardinals just ran the 316 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 3: last four years. I don't suspect a lot of five 317 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 3: wide empty backfield, multiple guys in motion. Now, maybe we'll see. 318 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 3: But when my favorite quota camp so far as Jonathan 319 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 3: Gannon when asked about how much he looks forward to 320 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 3: seeing James counter run the ball and said, oh yeah, 321 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 3: and James Conner does this, this, this, this, and I 322 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 3: can't wait until we cram the ball vertical. That's my 323 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 3: favorite quote so far. Cram the ball vertical. Guess what 324 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 3: that just presents an element of simple football? Can you 325 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 3: stop it? When Bruce arians in that offense used to 326 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 3: run twenty two to twenty three double twenty times a game, 327 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 3: you know what's coming. Can you stop it? So if 328 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 3: the Cardinals can get to that point and take some 329 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 3: of the thinking out of it, you know. When the 330 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 3: change was made, and Michael Bidwell was on the Day 331 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 3: Pash podcast early in the offseason, one of the things 332 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 3: he mentioned that was key according to the new staff 333 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 3: was to take a little bit off the play to 334 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 3: the quarterbacks. Perhaps there was just too much decision making 335 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 3: being required to the quarterbacks in the prior system. So 336 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 3: we'll see how that goes. Drew Petsing is gonna be 337 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 3: a first time play caller, but this scheme and he 338 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 3: mentioned it the Kubiak style of offense. He mentioned it 339 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 3: meeting the media that he had studied under Gary Kubiak, 340 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 3: and that goes back to Mike Shanahan and it's very 341 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 3: much where Kyle Shanahan has evolved that offense. So you're 342 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 3: going to see a lot of elements. It's rooted a 343 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 3: little bit in the West Coast, but it's routed a 344 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 3: lot in the power run game, different personnel sets. So 345 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 3: I'm excited. I don't know how much of an indication 346 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 3: we'll get in these preseason games because everybody keeps the vanilla, 347 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 3: especially if you're in a new staff, you're apt to 348 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 3: keep that under wraps. But you get to Week one 349 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 3: at Washington and we're all gonna sound like wolf Lake 350 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 3: breaking down the personnel groups in what the offensive line 351 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 3: sets look like. 352 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray brought it up on Saturday. We heard from 353 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: Drew Petsing on Monday use the word predictable. Do not 354 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: want to be predictable on offense? Sing, And I do 355 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: think this team is working towards not being predictable. And 356 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: we've seen flashes, two tight ends, three tight ends, a 357 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: tight end in the backfield as a blocking back there 358 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,239 Speaker 1: I say full back a lot more motion. And it's 359 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 1: not just Ron Dell Moore, it's a Hollywood Brown when 360 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: he is on the practice field, it's Zach Paskeal a 361 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: lot more movement pre snap. That was the big thing 362 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: over the last four years that there was very little 363 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: creativity and hardly any pre snap mobive motion. And yes, 364 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: being under center as well. Kyler asked about that looking 365 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: forward to it. Want to establish the run. So much 366 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 1: more you can do when you're under center as opposed 367 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: to in the shotgun. You've talked to enough defensive players 368 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: they tell you half the playbook is slashed if you 369 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: are out of the shotgun. 370 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 3: And the play action, the play action which is so critical, 371 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 3: that downfield passing attack, which was noticeably absent, especially last year. 372 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 3: So if you can get a legitimate run game and 373 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 3: then you can get a quarterback under center, guess what 374 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 3: you have play action at your disposal and that's all 375 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,959 Speaker 3: you need. You get those inside linebackers to hesitate just 376 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 3: a moment when they have to respect the run, and 377 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 3: now all of a sudden, that opens up the middle 378 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 3: of the field, like when a Zach Ertz gets healthy, 379 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,719 Speaker 3: so effective at operating in the middle field, reading coverage, 380 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 3: finding that open spot. That's what I think of. So 381 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 3: you're right, Craig, I think you're gonna see a little bit. 382 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 3: We've seen it already. If you're a fan and you're 383 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 3: really pay attention, you're coming out to Cardinals camp. And 384 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 3: by the way, it's real easy. You just go to 385 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 3: Eazycardinals dot com. You get your digital ticket, free admission, 386 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 3: free parking, coming out to the open practices, check the 387 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 3: schedule and you can see it for yourself. A lot 388 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 3: of different things being incorporated into this Cardinals offense. We've 389 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 3: even seen a lot of the bootleg game yep, getting 390 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 3: the half boots, full naked boots, getting that quarterback out 391 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,479 Speaker 3: on the run into space, throwing on the run. Clayton 392 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 3: Tune looks really comfortable in that sort of scheme. I'm 393 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 3: guessing we're gonna see a lot of that in the 394 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 3: preseason games. 395 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: Going back to what Colet mentioned on Monday about the 396 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: growing pains and that plays into Kyler Murray as well. 397 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: One of the interesting things that he brought up was 398 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: a conversation that he had in the offseason with Joe 399 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: Burrow at a recent UFC event, and the fact that 400 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: Joe telling Kyler is like, yeah, the one, the one 401 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: hurdle that he had to have. Forget the physical, it's 402 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: the mental. But being hesitant in the postuck, not quite 403 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: comfortable or quite one hundred percent confident in the knee, 404 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 1: what's it going to do? And then Kyle had brought 405 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 1: it up that first time stretching, he kind of had 406 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: to have someone do it for him because he was 407 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: scared first time jumping. He was a little hesitant because 408 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: he's not quite certain still confident, but it's no different 409 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: than anyone else. You get behind the wheel after a 410 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 1: speeding ticket or a traffic accident, you're a little bit 411 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: more aware of everything else. And I think that's what 412 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is gonna deal with and everyone deals with 413 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: it a little bit differently. How quickly can he overcome 414 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: that once he is back on the football field. 415 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 3: That's a good analogy, Right, you're behind the wheel after 416 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 3: an accident, Okay, Yeah, your head's definitely on a swivel, 417 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 3: there's no doubt about it. Maybe you're a little more 418 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 3: tentative or you're a little more calculated in how you 419 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 3: drive to work that day. What I liked was that 420 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 3: Kyler was brutally honest about all that. He wasn't trying 421 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 3: to kid the media as too. He wasn't just he 422 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 3: didn't call any of it insignificant. So I think that's 423 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 3: vital because there hasn't been a player that hasn't suffered 424 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 3: a devastating season, any knee injury, who hasn't felt all 425 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 3: those same emotions, all those same apprehensions. It's natural. Joe 426 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 3: Burrow went through it, Carson Palmer went through it a 427 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 3: couple of times. He talked about it at length back 428 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 3: in the day. Of course, Kyler's going to go through it. 429 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 3: But the more aware you are of it, you can 430 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 3: account for it. Drew Petsy mentioned in his press conference. 431 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 3: Of course there's going to be rusted. At least, everybody's 432 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 3: dealing with it with a reality dose, a reality as 433 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 3: opposed to ignoring the obvious. So okay, now you're trying 434 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 3: to prepare for it accordingly, the challenge is going to 435 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 3: be you're preparing for a game and then trying to 436 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 3: get Kyler ready over the course of a game week. 437 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 3: So there may maybe there's an opportunity for some extra 438 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 3: snaps here or there. But look, if you can get 439 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 3: a running game going and you can get him under center. 440 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 3: I vividly remember Joe Burrow talking when he first came back. 441 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 3: He played sixteen games that season, they had the playoff run, 442 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 3: but I remember him talking in the playoffs he didn't 443 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 3: feel one hundred percent almost December, and so he had 444 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 3: to change his game a little bit. He was getting 445 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 3: the ball out a little quicker he was. They did 446 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 3: have much more of a run game and try to 447 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 3: take some of the responsibility off Burrow. So don't be surprised. 448 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 3: A lot of those same elements are in the game 449 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 3: plan when Kyler Murray comes back. 450 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: It was a very honest Kyler Murray on Saturday, no 451 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 1: false promises, not making any statements or declaring yes, I'll 452 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: plan to be ready x week. Just this is going 453 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 1: to take time, and when I know I'm ready, I'll 454 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: let everyone else know that I'm ready, and that's when 455 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 1: you can start getting. 456 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 3: The ball going. 457 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: I'll be surprised, though, if we see Kyler Murray on 458 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: the football field in training camp here at State Farm Stadium. 459 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, he mentioned right after the injury, he called it 460 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 3: two weeks of hell, So you realize just how significant 461 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 3: the knee injury was physically not only the ACL but 462 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 3: the meniscus, but mentally for a guy who had never 463 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 3: been carted off a field in his football career, as 464 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 3: his dad explained on flight plans. So yeah, he met 465 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 3: every single question. He didn't deflect, you know. And then 466 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 3: he was asked about the monotony of rehab, and Kyler said, Look, 467 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 3: it hasn't been challenging. I get to do what I 468 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 3: love every day, and for me, it's about getting back 469 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 3: to who I was and playing at an even higher level. 470 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 3: So would it be shocking to discover that all of 471 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 3: a sudden Kyler has a new appreciation for the sport 472 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 3: that was taken away from him for the very first time. 473 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be shocked. I think that'd be a natural 474 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 3: human reaction. So maybe now he values what he does 475 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 3: for a living even more. And from all accounts, and 476 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 3: I've talked to a number of people on the sideline, 477 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 3: it's legit. He was there virtually every single day of 478 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 3: the off season. He is fully invested in the rehab 479 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 3: and his recovery and returning to the point where he 480 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 3: was the first half of twenty twenty one, where he 481 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 3: was considered a legitimate MVP candidate and one of the 482 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 3: best quarterbacks in the NFL. 483 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: It is Cardinals Cover two presented by Hyundai, partner of 484 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. The pads come on Tuesday, the first 485 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: day of August. Couple of notes from Monday's practice, we 486 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 1: were hinted that there would be some offensive line shuffling. 487 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: JG likes the versatility at the line of scrimmage. First 488 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: team offensive line has not changed left to right. DJ Humphreyes, 489 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 1: Dennis Daily Yelled, Defroholt, Will Hernandez, and Paris Johnson second 490 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: team offensive line, though there has been a swap between 491 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: left and right tackles. Calvin Beacham now playing left tackle, 492 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: Josh Jones now playing right tackle. That versatility and can 493 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: you keep four tackles on this final fifty three? But 494 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: if you can find someone who can play both sides, 495 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: which beach has done and done very well, plus in 496 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 1: a pinch play inside, that makes you more valuable to 497 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: the team that right. 498 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 3: There might be more about it, Josh Jones in a 499 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 3: Calvin Beacham, you saw Kelvin Beachum in the last couple 500 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 3: of years play right tackle. Dang check that box. According 501 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 3: to Kelvin Beachum, he's an even better left tackle. That's 502 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 3: what he did for a lot of his early career 503 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 3: with the Pittsburgh Steelers, and you saw him take over 504 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 3: that role in a pinch the end of last season, 505 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 3: and he played very well and he looked very comfortable. 506 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 3: Josh Jones played quite a bit last year obviously for 507 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 3: d Jeffries a left tackle. Can he play the right tackle? 508 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 3: Josh Jones? Can he play the right side? Period? Because 509 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 3: he's always talked about how much more comfortable he is 510 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 3: on the left side of the offensive line. That's what 511 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 3: he played all his years at Houston in college. So 512 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 3: maybe that I'll say this when it comes to that 513 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 3: second Deeen offensive line. Craig Everard a lot of good 514 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 3: things from some of the Italian valuators about how John 515 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 3: Gaines has showed so far in camp. Now we've yet 516 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 3: to get into pads, so you really don't know anything 517 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 3: about the lineman offensive or defense. But John gains for 518 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 3: a rookie, apparently has been very adept in the playbook 519 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 3: making the call. He's really earning the trust of the 520 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 3: coaching staff so far. So that's interesting. How is center 521 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 3: gonna play out. Yelder Frohold has been your starter ever 522 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 3: since he was signed, but he only has four games 523 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 3: of experience at the center. John gains unbelievable measurables, really athletic, 524 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 3: a lot to like they're totally in experience of the 525 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 3: NFL level. And then you get to a pad elf 526 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 3: Line who's up to the third string center center, and 527 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 3: he's the guy with forty career starts at center and 528 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 3: another two dozen at guard. So here's a guy who 529 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 3: really knows what he's looking at. That is among the 530 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 3: better battles I think position battles in this camp. 531 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 1: Trying to find depth at the offensive line because if 532 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 1: lf Line moves from fifth string center now to third string, 533 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: and what happens with Hayden Howardton, who was your third 534 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: string center, Well, now he's playing on the left side 535 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: at left guard, and you've got more move because Lucida Smith, 536 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: who's getting snaps at center, is now getting worked in 537 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 1: at right guard. So that versatility. I don't know if 538 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 1: we'll see much movement amongst those first five offensive line 539 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: in your first unit, but that second and third there 540 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: might be more shuffling to figure out who's the best 541 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 1: ten or eleven. However many we keep because we are 542 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: solid left to right. But if there's some movement underneath 543 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: behind them, then we could see maybe lf Line. That 544 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: would be the one name to keep an eye on. 545 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 3: Canny. 546 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: Keep moving up that depth chart to where he is 547 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: your week one starter at center. 548 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 3: Give me a name or two you really want to 549 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 3: see in full pads, because I would put Paris Johnson 550 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 3: Junior right up there. It was back together Saturday. They 551 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 3: were down on the subfield, down below the main field, 552 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 3: and they went against They set up the blocking sled 553 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 3: and the tenacity and velocity with which Paris Johnson Junior 554 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 3: hit that sled at full speed. I was like, oh boy, 555 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 3: he is a large man and as athletic and just 556 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 3: the mean streaky show. Just going through the drills. I'm like, 557 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 3: I cannot wait to see him O line, D line 558 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 3: and what he looks like. So that's one guy. Obviously 559 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 3: they're counting on him number six pick overall. But you know, 560 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 3: his mom even said on draft Day he's a general 561 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 3: giant until you put him in a football uniform, and 562 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 3: then he's a totally different human being. 563 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: I'll give you two on the defensive side. One, Xavon Collins. 564 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,959 Speaker 1: It is different when you're inside the box versus rushing 565 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: from the outside. How does he handle himself a little 566 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: bit more physical? And then Cameron Thomas. I think this 567 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: is a big year for him year two. Right now 568 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: he is that second line edge rush. It's Zavon Collins, 569 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: Dennis Gardek, and then Cameron Thomas. But can he make 570 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: a move up that ladder as well. I'd even include 571 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: my Jay Sanders, but we still see him on the 572 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: sideline now. He's got a little bit of a soft 573 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: cast on his right hand. He has not practiced since 574 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: leaving practice this early on July twenty seventh. But I'm 575 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: interested to see what kind of bull rush those guys 576 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: working with Robert Rodriguez can give the offensive line, because 577 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: if you don't have a pass rush, I don't know 578 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: about this defense. 579 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt, I agree with you on that one. 580 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 3: Zavi and Collins, no question you're looking at him. I'm 581 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 3: also gonna throw out Dante Stills, the d lineman from 582 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 3: West Virginia. He looks so athletic in the offseason, in 583 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 3: the mini camps and the rookie camps. I'm curious what 584 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 3: he's gonna look like against some of these experienced interior 585 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 3: offensive lineman, you're gonna get a real sense of what 586 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 3: Because Dante Stills is a true three technique and you 587 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 3: don't have a lot of that on this squad, on 588 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 3: this roster. He sort of brings a different element as 589 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 3: a defensive lineman. And if he can somehow be an 590 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 3: athletic guy who can get up field, then that's something 591 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 3: the Cardinals don't really have. That defensive line room in 592 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 3: the cornerback room is so wide open right now. From 593 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 3: all accounts, it's Marco Wilson and then in the d 594 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 3: line room, to me, you've got about eight to ten 595 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 3: guys who are pretty evenly matched up, sized up in 596 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 3: terms of capabilities, and so there is a lot to 597 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 3: be decided. I mean, those guys are gonna have to 598 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 3: come out there and they need to be hell bent 599 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 3: on distinguishing themselves from the masses. 600 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 2: LJ. 601 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: Collier, Kevin Strong and Carlos Watkins, those three newcomers to 602 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: the defensive line right now, they're the second line of rotation, 603 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: if you will, behind Rishard Lawrence, Lucky Fotu and Jonathan Ledbetter. 604 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: But those newcomers that this new front office brought in 605 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: to compete. What do they look like with the pads on? 606 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: And can you find that interior push quickest way to 607 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,719 Speaker 1: get to the quarterback is a straight line as poosed 608 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: to at an angle. Can that be Lucky fotu? Can 609 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: that be Kevin Strong or a Dante Stills or a 610 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: Jacob Slade the undrafted kid out of Michigan State, someone, 611 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: anyone raise your hand and say yeah, I want that job. 612 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 3: We still have our eye on number nine, Isaiah Simmons 613 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 3: deep center field safety? Okay? Is that his new spot? 614 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 3: Is that what he has to master first before he's 615 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 3: given opportunities elsewhere? Do they still have designs on playing 616 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 3: him in the box? Are there different schemes and situations 617 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 3: where okay, situational football, he's in on a certain unit. Curious, 618 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 3: curious to see when you get eleven on eleven and 619 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 3: it's full contact, full pads, where exactly is he playing? 620 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 3: How much is he playing? So there's there's a lot eyes. 621 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 3: And then when you want to if you want to 622 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 3: number a guy you probably maybe never heard of, or 623 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 3: I say seventy eight, you're like, wait a minute, who 624 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 3: And you're going to your Marquis Hayes, because when the 625 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,719 Speaker 3: pads came on last year, you talk about a mean streak. 626 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 3: This guy's running second team right guard, massive human being 627 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 3: out of Oklahoma, six ' five three eighteen listed at 628 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 3: and let's just say that you had no idea who 629 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 3: he was last year until the physicality started and when 630 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 3: you talk about O line, D line, and they finally 631 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 3: distinguished themselves and you figure out who's a football player 632 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 3: and who isn't. Markis Hayes is that guy. 633 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: If he did not hurt his knee late in training camp, 634 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: he would have made the roster. And I think I 635 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: made an impact because he was that noticeable during practice. 636 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: An offensive linemen typically don't really stand out, but the 637 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: size and pushing the guy in front of him back 638 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: on their heels and then of course that extra edge 639 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: to get under the skin of that lineman or linebacker. 640 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 3: He'll just tell you I'm finishing, I'm just finishing the block. 641 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 3: I'm just finishing to the echo of the whistle and 642 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, yeah, there's somebody separating you 643 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 3: in the defensive lineman. Think about how much plain time 644 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 3: he could have got last year if it wasn't for 645 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 3: that late camp injury on a team that started ten 646 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 3: different offensive line combinations over the course of twenty twenty two. 647 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 3: So let's see. Let's see. Because I agree with you, 648 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 3: I think he would have been a factor all season 649 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 3: long because there would have been so many opportunities to 650 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,280 Speaker 3: get so many snaps in the face of all those injuries. 651 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: I'll leave you with this Paul good friend, former Arizona cardinal. 652 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: Not sure if he's really retired yet or not, but 653 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: certainly living life. Got a brand new baby on the way. 654 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: Justin Pugh on Sunday tweeted the following I don't want 655 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 1: any o line d line training camp updates until pads 656 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,280 Speaker 1: come on. Thank you exclamation point. 657 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 3: See, there's a guy who knows, a guy who's been 658 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 3: there and done that, a guy who likes to have 659 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 3: fun with some of the analytics because what do they 660 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,720 Speaker 3: know about offensive line play and how can they assess 661 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 3: and grade someone in the offensive line when you don't 662 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 3: know the offensive lineman's assignment on that play. So yes, 663 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 3: he keeps it real, extremely real. There's no doubt about it. 664 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:55,320 Speaker 3: Justin Pugh, and he's right, He's absolutely right. There have 665 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 3: been plenty of players we were high on in the 666 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:58,919 Speaker 3: off season, and then once you got to the first 667 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 3: full padded practice, oh boy, that player is getting dominated physically. 668 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 3: Let me readjust can I take back what I said 669 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 3: in the offseason? So my hands way up in the 670 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 3: air on this one. There's those of us who have 671 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 3: been guilty as charge of bringing too much into a 672 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 3: player before they put on the full. 673 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: Path first padded practice on Tuesday, August first, want to 674 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,320 Speaker 1: come out to State Farm Stadium Cardinals Training Camp powered 675 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: by Cox. All the details on azcardinals dot com. And 676 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: on that note, we'll put a lid on this edition 677 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: of Cardinals Cover two, presented by Hundai, probably partner of 678 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our executive 679 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: producer Jim Amhudro, our associate the producer Cody Fincher for 680 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: Paul COLBC, I'm Craig Real Lou. We'll talk to you 681 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 1: next time here on Cardinals Cover two.