1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 2: Hey everyone, it's the almost Famous podcast. Ben and I 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: are doing a ba jillion episodes this week. We're gonna 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: be together for most of them, but we wanted to 6 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: get together now via zoom to record our recap for 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 2: Bachelor in Paradise. Like, guys, I think we're doing nine 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: episodes this week, well recording nine. 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 3: You know we're doing eighteen. You're doing nine. I'm doing that. 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 3: We're gonna be breaking up for this, I'm not kidding. 11 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 2: Whoa whoa, whoa whoa whoa what? So, guys, we are 12 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 2: going to have a big iHeart weekend in La. It's 13 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 2: three days and I was told that we were doing 14 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: six episodes live from the Bachelor Mansion, which you guys 15 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 2: are gonna have to pull me away from having Dawson 16 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 2: do all these little reels and skits of him pretending 17 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: to be the baby Bachelor in the front of the mansion, 18 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: because like, my time needs to really be dedicated to 19 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: those moments. 20 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 3: Please tell me you're dressing him up. 21 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna wear a tie there a little. I 22 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: don't have like a full suit, but I have like 23 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 2: a little vest and dress pants and stuff. 24 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 3: What would I have to do to convince you to go. 25 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: Get him a suit, like a real suit? 26 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 3: Yeah I could, Baby, if I have time. 27 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 2: I will absolutely do it. 28 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 3: But I don't have to feel like it would be 29 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 3: a game changer, like it's it's a showstopper, Like he's 30 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 3: gonna be cute no matter what. But like, put him 31 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,279 Speaker 3: in a suit the world for exam. 32 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 2: You're right, it is definitely different than him just wearing 33 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 2: a vest. Okay, So I'd. 34 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 3: Be the only time in his life actually that he 35 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 3: gets to go to the Bachelor Mansion. I know. 36 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, fine, I'm going to figure out a way 37 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: to get him in a suit. 38 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 3: I want to explain what is going on. So this 39 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 3: week Ashley and myself are going to Los Angeles. It will, 40 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 3: in my opinion, probably be not only the most content 41 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 3: but maybe one of the biggest weeks for the Almost 42 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 3: Famous podcast ever. We're going to be at the Bachelor Mansion. 43 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 3: We're going to be interviewing some incredible people, past you know, contestants, 44 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 3: current contestants that are on the Golden Bachelor, and then 45 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 3: also some celebrities will be there. We're gonna be pumping 46 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 3: through all these interviews. We're very excited for this. This 47 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 3: is a huge week for Almost Famous, which means, you know, 48 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 3: for all of the listeners out there, it's gonna be 49 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 3: a really big couple of weeks for some really fun 50 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 3: interviews with some people that we've all wanted to get 51 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 3: to know better, haven't heard from maybe in a while. 52 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 3: I'm ecstatic about this, and we get to do it 53 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 3: from the Bachelor manson, So just again look for the content. 54 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 3: I feel like, Ashley, since we're renting it out like 55 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 3: you and I are, I feel like we have total 56 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 3: access now just to explore and like give a tour 57 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 3: this place that maybe people haven't got to see before. 58 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like Instagram, Yeah, on Instagram for sure. We'll 59 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 2: show everybody the ins and outs because people, you know, 60 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: they're a surprise when they hear that we share like 61 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,399 Speaker 2: three bathrooms and three bedrooms and all that. We're gonna 62 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,399 Speaker 2: show them just how big it is. And I'm even 63 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: gonna probably have Dawson He's going to go to sleep 64 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: in one of the bedrooms because like the time change 65 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: is just gonna be really rough, but he must go 66 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 2: to the Bachelor Mansion. I am not letting him stay 67 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: at the hotel. 68 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 3: That's gonna be so much fun. So again, if you're listening, 69 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 3: stay tuned. We're doing this not only because it's a great, 70 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 3: really fun thing for the two of us to do. 71 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 3: I haven't been back to the mansion myself since I 72 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 3: was the Bachelor. All of the talks that I've done 73 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 3: with people have been, I believe, not at the mansion, 74 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 3: and so I have to be back to the mansion. 75 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 2: Okay, Ben, this is a big deal for you, because 76 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: I have been back two three times. So the owner 77 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: of the Bachelor mansion, which guys normal family We've mentioned before, 78 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: they live in the mansion when they're not filming there, 79 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: so probably they lived there probably about nine months out 80 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 2: of the year. He and I are friendly, and he 81 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 2: has let my friends and I come over for like 82 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: just like a pool hanging tour, and then like had 83 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 2: my mom come over for a little tour once, and 84 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 2: then I went over for Becca Tilley who had a 85 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 2: party there. Okay, Well, anyway, we'll talk about all of 86 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 2: this when we're actually there. Right now, we do want 87 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 2: to dive into this week's Bachelor in Paradise recap. It 88 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 2: was a short episode but it was a constructive episode. 89 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 3: But I want to know why it was so short. 90 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 3: It was short? Do you know the reasoning? Was there 91 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 3: something I've missed? 92 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 2: My guess. I think it was shortened because the finale 93 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 2: of Golden Bachelor is probably a little longer than it's normal. 94 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 3: That makes sense. I didn't put two into together. That 95 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 3: makes a ton of sense, so that the episode was shorter, 96 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 3: not necessarily. I don't think it needs to be longer. 97 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 3: I'm kind of glad it wasn't. It kind of got it. 98 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: It was perfect. Yeah, like what I'm saying, it's like 99 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 2: it started at the Rose Ceremony cocktail party and that's 100 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 2: where it ended. And I just kind of like it 101 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 2: when you know the clean and we got. We got 102 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 2: a lot of that accomplished in this episode, like Blake 103 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 2: and Jess breaking up, and then Mercedes and Tyler also 104 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 2: ending things. There's also that ongoing theme Ben where it 105 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 2: was like, wait a second, you missed a huge part here. 106 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: The editing is a problem right now. There's so many 107 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 2: huge things missing. Can you read my mind? I was 108 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 2: gonna say, can you give me okay, I'll just let 109 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: you know what I think was a huge missing piece 110 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: Rachel was like obsessed with the idea of Tanner last 111 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 2: week or two weeks ago, and then this episode she's like, no, 112 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: Jordan's definitely getting my rose. I'm like, wait a second, 113 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: pretty sure we left off with you saying that Tanner 114 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: was the one that you were going to take seriously, 115 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 2: because he basically swooned her by saying how much he 116 00:05:55,400 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 2: wants a relationship and how like he gave for the 117 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: rose the week before because he really wanted to actually 118 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 2: pursue something. It wasn't a friendship rose, like he clarified that, 119 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden in this episode, Tanner 120 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, like I gave her the rose because 121 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: I thought there was something there, but I over the 122 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 2: past day or so, I've realized there isn't something there. 123 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 2: So that's when he goes and pursues Jess. I'm like, 124 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: wait a second, what happened. I need to see why 125 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 2: you guys didn't have something in the past couple days. 126 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 2: And then ah, Rachel says, I'm going to give Jordan 127 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 2: my rose, and then Jordan suddenly goes, you know, I 128 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 2: just don't know if there's like me and Rachel were 129 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 2: really cute together Everybody keep saying we're cute together and 130 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 2: it's nice to reconnect, but I don't know if there's 131 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 2: anything romantic there. I'm like, what do you mean there's 132 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 2: something romantic there? You guys were all over each other 133 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 2: during like the sexy Tantric yoga date. You guys definitely 134 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 2: had some steamy something something between you, and now you're 135 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 2: telling me that you don't feel the romance I was 136 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:04,679 Speaker 2: weird about. 137 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, obviously here there's a few things that 138 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 3: we need to be clear on. One is we're very 139 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 3: protective of Rachel. We like Rachel a lot. Rachel, you know, 140 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 3: should be with some incredible human, and she wants to 141 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: be with some incredible human, so we are very protective 142 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 3: of her. However, I agree with you on everything you said. 143 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 3: I think for me, watching this episode and maybe watching 144 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 3: the whole season would be I think I'd be right, 145 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 3: or at least in my beliefs, be right in saying this. 146 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 3: The show I think ran into a big problem actually 147 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 3: now that and I think we're seeing it. I think 148 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 3: they brought a lot of really cool people to the beach, 149 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 3: and I think the relationships were really weak, and I 150 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: think instead of focusing on all the weak parts of 151 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 3: this relationships. They tried their hardest to show any relationship happening, 152 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 3: because I don't think there was a lot. I think 153 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 3: we're seeing every romantic moment between every couple the season, 154 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 3: and it's the only way for me that this lack 155 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 3: of storytelling makes sense, because it feels like maybe Rachel 156 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 3: and Jordan warn as strong as we thought. 157 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 2: And they only showed us the best of the. 158 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 3: Best exactly, and so they didn't have enough to fill 159 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,239 Speaker 3: the really good moments, like the quiet moments, the silent moments, 160 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 3: because I think they ran into wait, there's no chemistry 161 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 3: amongst anybody here. You know, we have like three couples 162 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 3: that are working out, and everybody else just seems to 163 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 3: be jumping around and wanting to jump around because this 164 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 3: was and it's been this way the whole season for us, 165 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 3: and I think it has been a frustration. Overall. Paradise 166 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 3: is still fun for what it is. It still has 167 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 3: its you know, you know, funny moments, It still has 168 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 3: its corniness. But I think for all season for us, 169 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 3: the storytelling has been a frustration because we don't understand 170 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 3: why things are happening the way they're happening. The Jordan 171 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 3: scenario is the perfect example for me, and I think 172 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 3: it's one that we should sit on for a second, 173 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 3: because Rachel and Jordan talked on a bed and they 174 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 3: both were very cute, and they're cute. Oh I'm you know, 175 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 3: Jorge says, look the way you're smiling, like this makes 176 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 3: me happy too. And then somewhere in the course of 177 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 3: this evening, and this is what Either he is a 178 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 3: jerk or he's a liar. There's like really only two 179 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 3: ways here. And because at least how they showed it. 180 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 3: I don't know if he is in real life. I 181 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 3: don't know the guy, but at least how they showed it, 182 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 3: because all of a sudden, he's saying these nice words 183 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 3: to Rachel, and then in a group setting amongst many people, 184 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 3: he's all of a sudden kind of like bashing their relationship. 185 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 3: So either he's a jerk and he's just doing this 186 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 3: without thinking, like saying, I'll tell Rachel one thing and 187 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 3: everybody else another, or he's lying, uh to Rachel to 188 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 3: her face and probably makes him a jerk also, I guess, 189 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 3: but I think I don't think he probably is in 190 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 3: real life. I think the editing makes it seem that way, 191 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,599 Speaker 3: and as a result, it's really confusing. 192 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 2: It's super confusing. She said to him, there's no one 193 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 2: else I'd rather get my rose to, and then like 194 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 2: he just goes ahead and pursues Mercedes and I it 195 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 2: was weird because they also got us attached to that 196 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 2: story very much. So during that their date, we wanted 197 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 2: Rachel and Jordan to reconnect because like it was the 198 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 2: what happened, if you know, like the one that got 199 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 2: away from her season, and then that's how it ends. 200 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 2: It ends with Rachel just going home because she didn't 201 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 2: even have the opportunity to give Tyler the rose. 202 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 3: Could be is this season of Paradise tried to do 203 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 3: too much within the timeframe they had. I mean, they 204 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 3: tried to get too much going on. They tried to 205 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 3: bring in too much drama. They had to have too 206 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 3: many storylines to follow. I mean, if they just would 207 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 3: have slowed their role a little bit, they still would 208 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,719 Speaker 3: have had a couple of couples, hoping they would have 209 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 3: still had a few couples that are really strong, but 210 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 3: at least we'd be able to understand what's making these 211 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 3: couples work and what's not. I have no idea why 212 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 3: Kylie and even work right now. I have no idea. 213 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 3: I know they get along because they've been together for 214 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 3: a couple of weeks, but I have no idea what's 215 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 3: happening in their relationship because we don't see it. 216 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 2: And Ben, you know how you normally say like, yeah, 217 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: but we'll feel it later on in the last few episodes. Yeah, 218 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 2: next week is the last episode. 219 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 3: I think it's a big miss. I do. I think 220 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 3: we've gone now again. I'm not saying I won't watch Paradise. 221 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 3: I love Paradise for what it is, and it's the 222 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 3: craziness and it's the dramas, and it's the beach and 223 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 3: it's you know, funny experiences and all that. I love 224 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 3: Paradise for that, and I'll watch it every season because 225 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 3: of that. But this season has had a big miss 226 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 3: when it comes to complete storylines making sense, so that 227 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 3: the end next week, like there's only maybe two couples 228 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 3: that I think should be, you know, spending the evening together, 229 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 3: and I expect them to. There's no like fringe couples. 230 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 3: There's no couples that we really want to see work, 231 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 3: but they just can't get there. Because they can't communicate properly, 232 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 3: Like we don't have any of that. We don't even 233 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 3: know who's dating each other right now. Everybody's dating somebody 234 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 3: else at this point. 235 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: There's somebody that an you married next next week too. 236 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 3: I don't think it's happening. 237 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 2: It really could be Eliza and Aaron. I think it 238 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 2: might be, like I feel like they were like, Okay, 239 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: let's just really encourage somebody here to get married because 240 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 2: we need some big splash commitment at the end. 241 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 3: I think Eliza is way to. 242 00:12:58,520 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 1: No. 243 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 3: I just I think she too like experienced in this 244 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 3: to do. I think she has too many years of 245 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 3: not being manipulated and convinced of something that she probably 246 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 3: shouldn't be doing, not saying they shouldn't at some later 247 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 3: point get married. That's very possible and would be awesome. However, 248 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 3: I don't think she would get convinced to do it 249 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 3: right away on a beach. I just don't see it 250 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 3: happening now. So I don't believe there's a wedding happening. 251 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 3: I think it's all fake. I think it's been played up, 252 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 3: and I think we'll never see it and whatever. I'm fine, 253 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 3: honestly if one of these couples right now got married 254 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 3: on the beach, I'd be confused, like. 255 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 2: This is not good for you, This is very bad. 256 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 3: It could have been engagement too. 257 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 2: Who knows, You're right? They could probably kind of fake that. Well, 258 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 2: they can. We all know they could fake a lot 259 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 2: of footage. They can see a lot of footage in 260 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 2: previews that we don't see in the actual episodes. 261 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 3: One of the really fun things here, Ashley, in this episode, 262 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 3: to me, somebody that we really enjoyed when they came 263 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 3: on the podcast, somebody that we know is a really 264 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 3: special human obviously very beloved on the beach it is. 265 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 3: It's a very matured conversation for Blake and Jess. They 266 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 3: both communicate well, and I think they're both sad and 267 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 3: that it didn't work out. I think they were a 268 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 3: cute couple for what it was. It very much was 269 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 3: a couple I was rooting for here, you know, alongside 270 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 3: of Eliza and Aaron and Kylie Navian, even though I 271 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 3: don't feel like we've seen any of them. And then 272 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 3: you have Peter and I still don't know her name, 273 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 3: even though I'm hearing. 274 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: Sam, Yeah, Sam, could you imagine if they get engaged 275 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 2: and like they never ever built anything around them. 276 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 3: I think I'd be shocked that they made our television screen. Honestly, 277 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 3: I'd be happy for Hi because it'd be the first 278 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 3: two minutes of television that we've seen of them since 279 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 3: they started dating. But yeah, I really also enjoyed the 280 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 3: vultures coming after Jess and she was single, because you 281 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 3: and I. 282 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 2: Both know, oh my god, yes, she's stunning. 283 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 3: She's stunning, and she's super sleep and like everybody loves her, 284 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 3: and she's super easy to get along with, and like 285 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 3: she's just a catch. Right, We've said it when she 286 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 3: was like one of our top choices for being a 287 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 3: catch when it comes to Paradise, And but she's been 288 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 3: Blake since the beginning. And as soon as her and 289 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 3: Blake in yeah, I mean those dudes lined up like literally, 290 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 3: we're like, I've and I get it. I believe that 291 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 3: they were like actually genuinely not just trying to get 292 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 3: a rose. They're like, finally, you know, give me my shot. 293 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 3: I've waited a long time. I've dated a lot of 294 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 3: people to wait for her to break up. 295 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. Okay, Well let's go to the breakup for 296 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 2: a second. You're right, it was nice. It was it 297 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 2: was nice. It was a nice breakup. I felt like 298 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 2: you know how I felt. I feel like what Blake 299 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 2: said said it all like he felt further he had 300 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 2: less time with Katie, but like he knew in those 301 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 2: little moments that it was love. And then he just 302 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: wasn't that with Jess. And then Jess goes and like 303 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 2: kind of like really blames herself for it. She blames 304 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 2: herself for not being able to get there with him, 305 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: and I'm just like, you, guys, it's not a big deal, 306 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 2: it's okay, nothing to feel like. She she felt like 307 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 2: she was doing something wrong and I was like, there's 308 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 2: nothing wrong to just not like somebody enough. 309 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 3: No, there's not. But again, I think it was a 310 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 3: miss storyline. Maybe I'll just blame it and that'll be 311 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 3: my tagline this episode. But I felt like he knew 312 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 3: that she couldn't get there, and so like, yeah, she 313 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 3: was communicating this wasn't like a shock to him, Like 314 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 3: he wasn't like sad and be like I know, oh wow, 315 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 3: you can't get there. It's like they obviously had these 316 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 3: conversations over and over again where she was like and 317 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 3: I want to see that. I want to see the 318 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 3: rawness of her being like, like, I really think you're 319 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 3: amazing and I want to get there with you, but 320 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 3: I just have it yet, and him responding with probably 321 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 3: a hey, let's give it time, let's take it slow, 322 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 3: let's see if we can make it work. At some point, 323 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 3: then you know, they both decided, hey, it's not getting there, 324 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 3: and like we can't force it and we don't want 325 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 3: to force it, and it's time for me to go. 326 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 3: But we don't see it. 327 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 2: I mean, maybe, well we saw a few weeks ago. Yeah, 328 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 2: I saw a few weeks ago when she decided to 329 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 2: take a break from it all. 330 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 3: But that's not enough for me. There had to be 331 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 3: other conversations that existed, and I want to see the 332 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,239 Speaker 3: maturity in those conversations. I want to see how they 333 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 3: handled that. I want to learn from the way they 334 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 3: did that. You know, just from my own perspective, how 335 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 3: do you handle a situation that's so uncomfortable yet you 336 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 3: do it with like that grace and kind of dignity 337 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 3: where you say, hey, but let's keep trying. Like but 338 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 3: all of a sudden they're breaking up and we're going, wait, 339 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 3: I thought you guys had healed this wound. I thought 340 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 3: you guys were better. 341 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 2: I don't you know, I don't think that you had 342 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 2: like great optimism with them. I thought that this was 343 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 2: very much doomed from pretty much the start, but especially 344 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 2: after their little week of division. 345 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 3: But you know what, I think he loves it. I 346 00:17:58,600 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 3: think I think he. 347 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 2: Just loves right. Yeah, I really think that they can 348 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 2: rekindle things. He said that he hadn't like given love 349 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 2: a try for like two years. He seemed way more 350 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 2: ruined by Katie than I would have assumed. 351 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 3: It gives me some like respect for him, though, because 352 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 3: I kind of back in the day, I think I 353 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 3: judged him incorrectly when I said he's just going on 354 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 3: Katie season to go on another season the Bachelor, right, 355 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 3: you know, Yeah, And now I see it, I'm like, no, 356 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 3: I think he just really liked her, which is so 357 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 3: much better than what I thought. And I was wrong, 358 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 3: and I typically am. So that's fine. 359 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, I totally agree. Okay, so you know, what's 360 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 2: a moment of chemistry that I was shocked by and 361 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 2: I kind of loved, but apparently it's just friendship chemistry. 362 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 2: It was Kylie begging Blake to stay. I think you 363 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,719 Speaker 2: feel something? Okay good? I was like, wait, wait, this 364 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,719 Speaker 2: is Kylie, like she's with somebody because I was rooting 365 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 2: for the two of them in that moment. I was like, 366 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 2: wait a second, this is we're all single? Like I 367 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 2: don't remind myself she's single because there was something there. 368 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 3: She kept saying, I can't do this without you, and 369 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 3: I'm like, wait, you're with Avon, Like what do you knew? 370 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 2: And I was like, okay, so wait, wait a second, 371 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 2: wait a second, are you going to like is this 372 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 2: her twists? Is this gonna be amazing? Because I feel 373 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 2: more between you and Blake in this moment that I 374 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 2: felt between you and Avan. 375 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 3: The entire season, well we saw more of her and 376 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 3: Blake than me. 377 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 2: See that's probably why. Yeah, so like what was up 378 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:28,719 Speaker 2: with that? 379 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 3: I know, right, they must just be really good friends, 380 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,719 Speaker 3: but again we don't see that friendship. You know, other seasons, 381 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 3: we have incredible friendships coming off the beach that were 382 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 3: like so excited to follow along with. They remind you 383 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 3: of the Susie Evans and Justin Glee's types of friendships 384 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 3: were like girls and guys like. 385 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 2: Me and Nick. That was like, yeah, so well. 386 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, so like it's very similar and then we don't 387 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 3: see any of that. But obviously Blake and Kylie had something. 388 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 2: So why would they put that in there if we 389 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 2: didn't see their friendship because it would have been amazing 390 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 2: if that was like the ending to the friendship, because 391 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: now I want to see more of the friendship. 392 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 3: I don't know, it's a confusing piece of this year. 393 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 2: Just another comment about like what I wish we could 394 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 2: have seen more, just to fill in those little gaps 395 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 2: of like what happened, Like why didn't Tanner and Rachel 396 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 2: continue on? Like all you really need in this kind 397 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 2: of show is like a scene or two of them, 398 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 2: like at the bar, not being able to carry on 399 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 2: a very thrilling conversation and then like put a little 400 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 2: awkward music behind it and then that's that's it. It 401 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 2: could take like thirty seconds, but it would give us 402 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 2: some sort of understanding. 403 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's not there this year. I hope, you know, 404 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 3: there's been a big switch in like leadership. I hope 405 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 3: this was kind of their first go around at it 406 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 3: and they get Yeah, they just learn and get a 407 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 3: little better for next season, because I don't want Paradise 408 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 3: go away. I'll be really sad if they just can't 409 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 3: figure it out. But this season did. I mean, I 410 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 3: think most people would say, Hey, still paradise. It's still 411 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 3: a bunch of good looking people on the beach making out, 412 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 3: figuring it out, doing crazy dates like it's still paradise. 413 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 3: But I think most people that I've talked to have said, 414 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 3: it just feels like we're missing a lot of the story. 415 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 3: And I and I agree, I do. I think we've 416 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 3: missed so much of the story that now we're just 417 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 3: kind of like watching it for the drama. But we're 418 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 3: so far along in the season. You and I both 419 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 3: know that drama doesn't sell or people don't get into 420 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 3: it this late in the season. Now they're ready to 421 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 3: see who's gonna end up together. If if any of 422 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 3: these couples at this point end up engaged anyhom I 423 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 3: will be surprised because I don't know how strong any 424 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 3: of them are. Yeah, that's that's my feelings. I don't 425 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 3: I could be wrong, but i'd be surprised. 426 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 2: No, you're right, And because of that, there's not gonna 427 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 2: be like a whole bunch of support from Bachelor Nation. 428 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 2: They're not gonna be like Oh my god, I love 429 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 2: Like that's good. I love that Bachelor in Paradise couple. 430 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 2: Like I can't like, I'm so like if they break up, 431 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 2: like I'm so sad about it. It's like, no, it's gonna 432 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 2: be like really sad about it, which is sad to say, 433 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 2: but okay, hopefully everybody gets married and happy and anything. Anyway, 434 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 2: Gotta talk about the Tyler and Mercedes thing, because again, 435 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 2: that was weird. Now we've seen more hints to this. 436 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 2: There's nothing missing here because we've seen people say like, oh, 437 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: Tyler isn't into Mercedes and like the secret notes or 438 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 2: whatever and the roast, and then she confronts him about 439 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 2: it today and then it was like a little bit. 440 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 2: It was just weird because he was like, I gave 441 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 2: you that rose because I wanted to see if there 442 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 2: was a spark. And then he's like, but there's no spark. 443 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 2: And then she was like, well what they kind of 444 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 2: agree that there was no spark. Lead me through this moment, Ben. 445 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, it's a question again that I would 446 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 3: have for you is what exactly was going on? Because 447 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 3: I think what I expected in that conversation was to 448 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 3: get clarity on why the note was written that Tyler 449 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 3: wasn't that into Mercedes. We didn't really get that clarity. 450 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 3: I didn't leave that conversation and be like, yeah, he 451 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 3: wasn't that into her. I left it being like, I 452 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 3: think Mercedes is over it. She's ending this thing. I 453 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,719 Speaker 3: don't think she wants to fight for it anymore. 454 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, she ended it because there was all that, like 455 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 2: there's everybody was like, he's not into you, so of 456 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 2: course she's gonna want to end it. 457 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 3: Did we ever find out if it was true? 458 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 2: It was totally true. He just said, okay, so Mercedes 459 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 2: is like, there's no depth. I don't feel like you're 460 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 2: trying to pursue me. I don't feel wanted. And then 461 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 2: she said I heard that long distance is off the 462 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 2: table for you, and I think that you're just here 463 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 2: to have a little thing. Are you here for a 464 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 2: little thing? And then Tyler just like kind of gets 465 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 2: emotional and he's like, I've been trying to find the spark, 466 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 2: but I've just not found it with her. So and 467 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 2: now she's saying that she feels used, which I can't 468 00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 2: help but agree with her a little bit because. 469 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 3: But it's confusing. It is I mean, because we don't know, 470 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 3: like has he always not been into her, because at 471 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 3: some point he had. 472 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 2: To have been right, but he did on their date, 473 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 2: he definitely liked her. I guess what happened since the date, 474 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 2: like they just they couldn't keep that date magic alive. 475 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 3: Well maybe, but I mean somebody here wrote a note 476 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 3: that said he's not as an intur. So somebody has 477 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 3: known for a few weeks now that Tyler wasn't into Mercedes. 478 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, it has been a few weeks. 479 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 3: Why we don't know why he wasn't into her. But 480 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 3: my question is if he was just there for a 481 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 3: good time, then why did he settle down so quickly 482 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 3: with Mercedes? Why Mercedes is there? I mean, is there 483 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 3: other women that he was interested in? Obviously he made 484 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 3: out with Jess, but like this, so like what was 485 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 3: I mean? Maybe Mercedes is saying, Tyler, you just wanted 486 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 3: to hang out on the beach with your buddies. You 487 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 3: want to be here for another season. You found me, 488 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 3: you knew we had something good enough to at least 489 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 3: make it through the neck last couple of weeks, and 490 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 3: now you're out, and I feel you us for it, 491 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 3: And I would then understand that. But again, we're making 492 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 3: a lot of assumptions along the way here, assumptions that 493 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 3: we don't have clarity on. We don't know really if 494 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 3: that just wasn't a good relationship, which is totally okay, 495 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 3: or if he did kind of play a lot, you know, 496 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 3: player for a bit until the very end and said 497 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 3: I'm out see you later. 498 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 2: That was a good time, Yeah, just to see if 499 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 2: somebody else pop by, and then like just to get 500 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 2: as much screen time as you can. 501 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 502 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I don't love the way he 503 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 2: handled it. I just feel like I get that. I 504 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 2: just feel like I like the way. I just feel 505 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 2: like maybe quite some time, there was no spark and 506 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 2: like she feel a little let on. 507 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 3: I was definitely as a viewer rooting for them to 508 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 3: end it right there, Like I didn't want either of 509 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 3: them to continue on with this relationship because no, I 510 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 3: don't feel like the spark was there. And anytime you're 511 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 3: dating somebody for as long as they have and you 512 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 3: walk up to them on the beach and it feels 513 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 3: a little awkward, like you're like, wait, you're missing something here. Usually, 514 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 3: if you're really into somebody and you walk up to 515 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 3: the the beach, like it's very comfortable and friendly, and 516 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 3: this one felt very distant and weird, like they hadn't 517 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 3: talked in two days, and so now they were finally 518 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 3: ending what they had before. 519 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 2: They didn't because she made that comment about him like 520 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 2: touching her leg, and she's like, he just never it's 521 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 2: just never a thing. He just never really like makes 522 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 2: a point to be like, oh, hey, like I see 523 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 2: you and I like you. 524 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, Well, so we've gone through these breakups, 525 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 4: this confusion. 526 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 3: Rachel obviously goes home because kind of the guy she's 527 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 3: into is obviously maybe not into her, and then has 528 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 3: been chosen by somebody else, and she just feels like, hey, 529 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 3: this is no longer her place to be, which is unfortunate. 530 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 3: But Rachel's gonna be fine. She's a great girl. We 531 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 3: think the world of her. She's she'd had a good 532 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 3: round on the beach. Her and Kat had survived a 533 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 3: lot longer. It felt like than we ever expected, the 534 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 3: two of them too, because it felt like every week 535 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 3: they were on the chopping block and that they found 536 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 3: their way next week, the next week, next week. So 537 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 3: we do have a few couples, though, Ashley that we 538 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 3: do got to celebrate Eliza and Aaron feels strong. They've 539 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 3: gone through some stuff that happens in a new relationship. 540 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 3: Kylie and Avan I think they're strong again. We just 541 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,479 Speaker 3: don't see anything of them, so it's impossible for us 542 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 3: to say. 543 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 2: But what's fun a fun tidbit we get from the 544 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 2: scenes for the next episode. He's like, why are you 545 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 2: putting so much pressure on me to get engaged? 546 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 3: Ooh ooh, what a question? What a question? In the 547 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 3: week of engagement? I know. So you know, she's been 548 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 3: into him since he even before even showed up to 549 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 3: the beach, so she's obviously very ready, hopefully for this 550 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 3: next step, and he's just kind of more hesitant. We 551 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 3: do have Peter and saying who you mentioned again? I 552 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 3: I literally, at one point actually during this rou ceremony, 553 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 3: stopped my recording press pause, yeat to just try to 554 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 3: figure out who she was. I know, colol, Yeah, I 555 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,719 Speaker 3: literally I have not seen anything of her on our 556 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 3: television screens. 557 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 2: Why bring somebody from Bachelor Canada if you're not going 558 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 2: to include them and like we're not even going to 559 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 2: know them, Like, like, if it's gonna be a huge character, 560 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 2: then Okay, yeah, if not, then like just add another 561 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 2: regular American version, an American version contestants that we all 562 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,239 Speaker 2: have a general idea who it is. 563 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, then and then the other the so the good 564 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 3: couples before I mentioned my favorite part of the show 565 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 3: to you. Okay, We'll continue on with Michael and Olivia. 566 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 3: Very cute. I actually think those two might be the 567 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 3: strongest couple, like just based on their chemistry and how No, yeah, 568 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 3: I like them. I just think she's hilarious and I'm glad. 569 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,719 Speaker 3: Here's my question for you as as a woman. This 570 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 3: might be inappropriate, but I was watching all these women 571 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 3: on the beach and they all look beautiful. They have 572 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 3: these like skin tight dresses on right, and all these 573 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 3: dudes are sweating through their linen shirts. How does the 574 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 3: women not have butt sweat coming off those dresses when 575 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 3: it's like hugging their hips so tightly, Like, how do 576 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 3: none of them like show like some butt cheek sweat. 577 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 2: Well, some of the materials probably don't let it bleed through. 578 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 2: It certainly happens, I can tell you that much. I 579 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 2: am a droopy girl, like I My body gets really 580 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 2: sweaty down there in Paradise, So I but I guess 581 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 2: some girls just. 582 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 3: Like have will you be nervous about it? 583 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 2: Though you real semonine the body that just doesn't really 584 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 2: admit too much. I don't know. So on the person 585 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 2: and our backs during the rose ceremonies when it gets 586 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 2: like so hot and you just feel like a drip 587 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 2: because you're just standing. 588 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 3: In one spot would be so wet. 589 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 2: And so at least our backs are are turned. 590 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 3: But yeah, I would just I was watching these dates 591 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 3: and I was like, I would be so nervous if 592 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 3: I was a woman here, because yes, you look beautiful, 593 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 3: but you sit down on a couch for two seconds 594 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 3: and you stand up and like you have the outline, 595 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 3: and that's just not something I would want personally on TV. 596 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 3: There's a lot of things I wouldn't mind if people 597 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 3: showed of mine on TV, but just to see me 598 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 3: like really sweaty and like my dress on a cocktail 599 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 3: night showing through it would make me nervous. So if 600 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 3: I was the woman, I would be wearing like big 601 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 3: old T shirts that are like super like baggy. 602 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 2: This just feels like a sure, that's a great question. 603 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 2: I don't know how we've gotten away with it. Good, good, point. 604 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 3: Somebody is because somebody's getting away with it, and good 605 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 3: for them. So other couples that we have, John Henry 606 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 3: and Kat John Henry's into kissing cat never shocked to us. 607 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 2: Definitely using tongue, I'm sure as she requires. 608 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 3: I wonder if you still have the hole in his 609 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 3: tongue when you get your tongue pierces it heal. 610 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 2: Up, doesn't Is the ring not in there? Oh? 611 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 3: I don't know. 612 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 2: I think the ring's in there. Interesting, Yeah, and I'm 613 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 2: sure it closes up. 614 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, using little tongue. 615 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 2: Obviously, she gotta flossier tongue. 616 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 3: Gracious. Jordan, Taylor, Tanner, and Braidner are all single. Obviously 617 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 3: most of them have gone after Jess. Uh not all 618 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 3: of them successfully did it? 619 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah, but when Jess chooses Tanner at the rose ceremony, 620 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 2: Taylor thinks that she called his name and then he 621 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 2: starts walking that That is the worst part ever. That's 622 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 2: what happened to Jillian on my season. Jillian ended up 623 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 2: getting a rose from Crystals that week, but it was 624 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 2: not the intended one, And oh my god, that it 625 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 2: is so heart wrenching. 626 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, here's the deal. If it happened to anybody other 627 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 3: than Taylor. 628 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 2: It would be sadder. 629 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, because like he knew he wasn't getting a rose, 630 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 3: Like I don't know the guy. I don't know why 631 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 3: he thought it was actually him. 632 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 2: She did talk to him so low. 633 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, but why that guy was on the beach is 634 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 3: still confusing, you know what? 635 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 2: Like another like too random? Just like why did you 636 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 2: give me the most random? 637 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 3: Like you know? And then he thinks he's the one 638 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 3: getting called and yes, I'm sure in his hearts of hearts, 639 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 3: he was very excited for that split second until he 640 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 3: had to back up, which was to me hilarious. I 641 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 3: love it. It was always a fear of mine when 642 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 3: I was the bachelor if I would not enunciate somebody's 643 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 3: word like or name properly, then they would get confused 644 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 3: and come down and you'd be like, sorry, not you 645 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 3: somebody else. That would have been horrible. And it happened 646 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 3: to Jess, which makes me happy too because she obviously 647 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 3: is very sweet and kind, uh and she probably felt 648 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 3: so bad. That was my favorite part episode, So okay. 649 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 2: Thumbs up evil. 650 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 3: I know I'm evil. What else do you watch Paradise for? 651 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 3: Not to laugh at people? Eliza and Aaron are together, 652 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,479 Speaker 3: Kat and John Henry together, Kylie and Avan are together, 653 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 3: Olivia and Michael are together. Sam and Peter are together. 654 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 3: Jess gives her rose to Tanner a little bit of 655 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,239 Speaker 3: a shocker, a little bit of a surprise. Mercedes then 656 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 3: gives her rose to Jordan obviously. Rachel goes home along 657 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 3: with Braden and Taylor and who else went home this week? 658 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 3: Just Brandon, Taylor, Brandon and Taylor. Yeah, yeah, that's it. 659 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 3: Uh So we're on the next week, final week of 660 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 3: the season. 661 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 2: Well and Rachel, I guess Tyler, you know. 662 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 3: It's uh, it's it's been a wild year. We'll hopefully 663 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 3: get some good love connections coming out of this. It's 664 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,959 Speaker 3: gonna be great for our podcast. You know why, because 665 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 3: all of these love connections, we're not gonna see a 666 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 3: lot of them. Nobody's gonna understand them, and then we're 667 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 3: gonna bring them on the podcast, interview them and get 668 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 3: the whole story of their relationship. Yes, yeah, so people 669 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,399 Speaker 3: finally understand why they like. We'll fill in where other 670 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 3: people haven't. And I am so excited for again. We 671 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 3: have a huge week here at the Donalds Famous Podcast. 672 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 3: Massive week. As I mentioned, before. I think it's the 673 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 3: biggest content week we've ever done. A lot of cool 674 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 3: things happening in a really cool location with great people. 675 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 3: So Ashley and I are strapping up our boots. We're 676 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,280 Speaker 3: heading out to LA It's gonna be a blast. Stay 677 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 3: tuned for all of those episodes to air over the 678 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 3: next few weeks. We're doing this one because we like to too, 679 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 3: because well, we like you all who are listening. Go 680 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 3: out and leave us a review. Hopefully it's a five star. 681 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 3: If it's not a five star, don't leave our review, 682 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 3: and just how excited you are for the next couple 683 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 3: of weeks. I hope it was a great holiday season 684 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 3: for everybody. We'll be back for many more weeks. I 685 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 3: can't even say we'll be back next week or next 686 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,439 Speaker 3: time because there's gonna be a lot of next times 687 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 3: here coming up on Almost Famous podcast. So until you 688 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 3: hear from us again, which will be very soon, many 689 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 3: times over, I've been Ben. 690 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,280 Speaker 2: I've been Nicley Bye. 691 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: Followed the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts on 692 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.