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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi. Everyone.

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Speaker 2: Welcome the Mother Knows Death. We have a packed show

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Speaker 2: for you today. We're going to talk about the biggest

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Speaker 2: story of the week, at least in our world, which

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Speaker 2: is about the hundreds of skeletal remains found in a

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Speaker 2: Pennsylvania man's home in what authorities are calling a house

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Speaker 2: of horrors. An update on a story we brought you

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Speaker 2: last week involving a dentist and his wife that were

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Speaker 2: found murdered in their home, a newborn baby girl that

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Speaker 2: was found alive in a toilet tank, a has matt

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Speaker 2: situation involving boogers, yes I said boogers, and women getting

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Speaker 2: fat from dead people injected into their butts. We'll finish

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Speaker 2: off the episode with your comments and questions. All that

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Speaker 2: and more on today's episode of Mother Knows Death. Okay,

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Speaker 2: we talked about this in the Grosser Room last week

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Speaker 2: and this week, but we haven't talked about it yet

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Speaker 2: on this show. Let's talk about this house of horrors,

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Speaker 2: which is only what an hour and a half away from.

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Speaker 1: Us, not far at all. Also, you guys are setting

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Speaker 1: us stories all the time which keep doing. We love it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I think this is the most we've ever

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Speaker 1: been set one single story. It is insane. We're geting

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Speaker 1: so many emails and messages. A lot of people I

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Speaker 1: knew were texting me it was insane. But okay, so

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Speaker 1: I don't I've been seeing this pop up in national headlines,

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Speaker 1: so I do think it's a little broader than here.

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Speaker 1: But basically, since early November, the cemetery in Gayden, Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 1: that's in Delaware County, not very far from US at all,

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Speaker 1: they had reported multiple grave robbings to police, with a

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Speaker 1: total of twenty six mausoleums in vaults being affected. So

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Speaker 1: in most of these cases, the concrete on these structures

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Speaker 1: had been destroyed, allowing somebody to go inside of them

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Speaker 1: access the coffins, and then they realized that personal items

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Speaker 1: from the deceased and their remains were missing. So last

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Speaker 1: week police were surveilling this cemetery and they come across

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Speaker 1: this car that they said, in clear view in the

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Speaker 1: backseat of this car had human remains in it. And

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Speaker 1: as they're inspecting this car, this man is seen exiting

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Speaker 1: the cemetery with a crowbar in a burlap bag, which

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Speaker 1: later they found had more human remains that he had

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's really insane. He got away with it,

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Speaker 2: in my opinion, too long, for too long. It appears

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Speaker 2: online that he started posting this stuff not too long ago. Honestly,

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Speaker 2: in November he started posting like unusual things on Instagram

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Speaker 2: that follows this guy, so he what was his name

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Speaker 2: on his Oh my.

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Speaker 1: God, it's so lame, dead shit daddy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so edgy.

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Speaker 1: Iye roll.

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Speaker 2: So he had an account where he had over fifteen

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Speaker 2: thousand followers, also an account on Facebook as well. Both

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Speaker 2: meta platforms, which I bitch about all the time, censor

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Speaker 2: the shit out of me every single day of my life.

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Speaker 2: So it's kind of amazing that it didn't pick up

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Speaker 2: that this individual was not posting skulls that you would

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Speaker 2: typically see in a medical museum or used in an

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Speaker 2: that were dirty and looked like they just came out

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Speaker 2: of the ground and still had attached soft tissue and hair,

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Speaker 2: which means that they were still literally decomposing. And he

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Speaker 2: something like that in his bio, but there's no word

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Speaker 2: what his title is. As it appears, there's no documentation

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Speaker 2: anywhere in any of the documents that he ever even

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Speaker 2: forensic expert, and which means he's just like gen Pop

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Speaker 2: regular person. Right, There's no reason that I could think

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Speaker 2: they killed the person or number two they robbed a grave.

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Speaker 1: Well, apparently people just think they can claim they're forensic experts.

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Speaker 1: Remember I was maybe getting like Pitch or whatever to

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Speaker 2: I don't even consider myself to be a forensic expert,

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Speaker 2: it's so outrageous. So of course, the first thing I

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Speaker 2: for the guy's social media account. And what's really shocking

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Speaker 2: is that because most of the time, in any case

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Speaker 2: you look up their social media and there's social media

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Speaker 2: account's been completely wiped from the face of the planet.

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Speaker 2: And in this case, they left it up, which I

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Speaker 2: these look a lot different than any other skull I've

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Speaker 2: right now. And even then, posting pictures of a dead body,

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Speaker 2: especially their face, which is considered to be an identifiable marker,

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Speaker 2: no no in that case. So just like no one,

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Speaker 2: none of them are flagged, Like I don't know, it

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I can think about like when I was

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Speaker 1: But to think there was people following him that never

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Speaker 1: and nobody seemed to think it was suspicious.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what kind of makes me. It actually makes

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Speaker 2: me wonder about those certain people that were following him

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Speaker 2: I know, And it was one of my friends who

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Speaker 2: So I texted my friend and I said to her, like, dude,

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Speaker 2: I did think it was weird, like where was he

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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about some of the crimes too. So

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Speaker 1: I guess this cemetery, which was Mount Mariah Cemetery in Naden,

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Speaker 1: and that was a dilapidated cemetery with a mausoleum that

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Speaker 1: two bodies were removed from graves in that mausoleum as well,

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Speaker 2: This guy, this guy is like the dumbest criminal ever. Yes,

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Speaker 2: who breaks it. He broke into this mausoleum. You should

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Speaker 2: see the picture. I have everything posted. We did a

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Speaker 2: But he breaks into this mausoleum and like doesn't close

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Speaker 2: himself down into this hole. You're just like, dude, do

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Speaker 2: you want to like clean up after yourself a little

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Speaker 2: he's like a sloppy criminal on top of that, and

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Speaker 2: just got I guess he did it once and was like, Oh,

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Speaker 2: this is easy because did you say this that Mount

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Speaker 2: Mariah is not an actual active cemetery, Like it hasn't

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Speaker 2: been used since twenty eleven, and there's volunteers who are

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Speaker 1: Well exactly. And the other cemetery right outside of Scranton

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Speaker 1: is not technically abandoned. There is owners, but they live

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Speaker 1: there's volunteers taking care of it. But I've been seeing

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Speaker 1: a lot of backlash that the property wasn't being surveilled

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Speaker 2: And I think that ninety nine point nine percent of

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Speaker 2: It's just such, it's such a mess, and it's just

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Speaker 1: Well, of course, it's so disrespectful on a million levels

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Speaker 2: And so he was taking not only just like old

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Speaker 2: There's no way that this is oh he just started

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Speaker 2: to show an example of him. But what's the baill one?

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Speaker 1: So he's facing I think in total, like four hundred

433
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:19,360
Speaker 1: and ninety six charges, which interestingly, it doesn't appear he's

434
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: being charged yet with selling these remains, so I don't

435
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 1: know what that's about. Where if they have a longer

436
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: road to prove exactly what was happening with that. But yeah,

437
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,439
Speaker 1: he's facing almost five hundred charges and his bail has

438
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: been set to a million dollars, which if you listen

439
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: to the show, you know we're so critical because like,

440
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: child predators could do the absolute most horrific thing ever

441
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 1: and they still get bail. Right, So it's like, why

442
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: is it?

443
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 2: I feel like that was like one four Remember like

444
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,120
Speaker 2: originally when Rob Ryner's son was charged, it was four

445
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 2: million dollars Bill, You're just like, Okay, so a guy

446
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 2: that slices both of his parents' neck and murders them

447
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 2: in cold blood, right, his is it's one fourth of

448
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 2: the of that. But yeah, how many times have we

449
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 2: covered pedophiles that that get out? That guy Jake Harrow,

450
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 2: remember the one that his son went missing from the

451
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 2: sporting good store. They said that he got kidnapped in

452
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 2: the parking lot and all that stuff.

453
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: His body's still not been found.

454
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 2: But body's still not been found. Wasn't he Was he

455
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 2: on bail or was it he was right? Or it

456
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 2: was for the first time he tried to kill his kid.

457
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,360
Speaker 2: It was like something he just he or he went

458
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 2: to jail for like a day and went home or something.

459
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 2: It's just like so outrageous. And I mean, like, if

460
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 2: this guy committed these crimes and stuff, he should get

461
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 2: the full extent of the law. But I just don't

462
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 2: like how disproportion it is to other crimes.

463
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 1: No, one hundred percent. I mean this, this is a

464
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 1: very the thing I was telling Ricky which he thought

465
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 1: was ridiculous, which I was like, so many people are

466
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 1: setting us a story and it's certainly very interesting and

467
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: there's a lot of interesting components to it, but like

468
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 1: grave wrapping is not so rare, Like I feel like

469
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: we have stories often about it where we hear about

470
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 1: on this on this level of no on this this

471
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: level is this is like a textbook example of like, again,

472
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,959
Speaker 1: has this guy never watched like any true crime specially

473
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, you don't. I guess my I guess

474
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Speaker 1: my thing.

475
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 2: My one thing would be to I really want to

476
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 2: talk to Joseph about this. But like, if this guy

477
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 2: has been doing this longer than this, there's no way

478
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 2: that he was doing it well and was so discreet,

479
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 2: and now all of a sudden, it's just like he's

480
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 2: leaving behind these sloppy clues. Like I mean, I honestly

481
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,640
Speaker 2: feel like he could have gotten away with it for

482
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 2: a very long time if he wasn't being like, I

483
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 2: don't know, take a class and learn how to clean

484
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 2: a skull and like actually clean it before you post

485
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 2: it and say it's for sale. It's just like that

486
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 2: one picture that's so creepy on his account with the

487
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 2: with the head with the shroud over it. It almost

488
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 2: looks like he was underground in the crypt and took

489
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 2: the picture of the thing like still resting in place

490
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 2: before he took it home. That's and I'm just like, dude,

491
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 2: this is so outrageous.

492
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 1: And we don't know anything about him, like is he

493
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: a drug addict? Does he have I mean, clearly he's

494
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: having some mental thing going on, but like does he

495
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 1: have like schizophrenic? Like what is going on with him?

496
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: Because I'm like, what was that attitude when they arrested him.

497
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: Was it like was he apologetic for doing it? Or

498
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 1: was he just like I don't give a fuck. They're

499
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 1: dead and lay in there, so who cares what I do? No,

500
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: I don't.

501
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 2: I don't think that that he cared. I mean he

502
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 2: really just didn't even try to hide it.

503
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: And you our YouTube live women, I am judging this

504
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 1: w said he was really hot. Oh come on, a

505
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 1: couple of you.

506
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 2: Listen. We have a our YouTube lives get a little

507
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 2: out of control in the gross room.

508
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: Last week's in particular.

509
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 2: Last well, yeah, last week's was out of control, and

510
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 2: you know, some members mentioned that he was hot, and

511
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 2: I was just like, listen, like I he's not my type,

512
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 2: like Luigi's more my type, which is just messed up

513
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 2: to say. It's just kind of a joke we have.

514
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 2: That's why we sell a tote bag that says fine specimen,

515
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 2: because it's like, oh, yeah, that guy's a fine specimen,

516
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 2: but he's also a specimen like weirdo, like not doing

517
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 2: good things. But I mean you could still appreciate if

518
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: a person is good looking or not.

519
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: I totally and you can make the observation. But then

520
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 1: I think once you've learned what they've done, you need

521
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: to feel like, Okay, upon initial reaction, they are a

522
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: hot person, but taking it back no longer.

523
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like how hot is it to show up to

524
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 2: his house to go on a date with them and

525
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 2: smell decomp in the basement? I don't know. We need

526
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 2: to learn not like sexy time smell.

527
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: Exactly, Like did he have a girlfriend? Like what was

528
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: going on? We need to know about his personal life.

529
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean something's off because like if you're doing

530
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 2: something shady like that, you would think, oh, you're not

531
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 2: going to invite your brother over, and your brother's just like, oh,

532
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: there's a dead, decomposing body like hanging in your basement.

533
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 2: That's totally normal. Like there's some kind of disconnect there.

534
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 2: He really wasn't trying to hide any of it.

535
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: And according to the probable cause affidavit we read, the

536
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: brother did confirm that he saw it, so like, why

537
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: didn't he call? Like, I just I don't know what

538
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: people do, Like, I just can't.

539
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 2: It's it's weird because I think that in general, if

540
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 2: you're a normal person and you walk into someone's house

541
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 2: and see something like that, you're just kind of like,

542
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 2: while the guy, I mean, it looks like he collects skulls,

543
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 2: is that like, am I really seeing this? Like I

544
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 2: don't know, I feel, And then of course you have

545
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 2: the it's your family. So a lot of people don't

546
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 2: call the cops on their family when they know they

547
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 2: murdered somebody, you know what I mean, Like it's very hard.

548
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people say, yeah, if my

549
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 2: kid did this, I would call the cops. And it's

550
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 2: just like I don't really think you you know, until

551
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: you're in that exact situation, how like how you would

552
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 2: react and feel. And I mean maybe the guy just

553
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 2: told you know, you tell the girl. So then the

554
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 2: girl calls the cops and it's like, well, I wasn't

555
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: the one that called the cops. That's like exactly what happened.

556
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: Kind of Well, you know, it's funny you brought that

557
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: up because in the episode with Cheryl, we talked about

558
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: the interview that Coberger's sister did, and I had said, oh, I.

559
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 2: Was I was upset that I missed out on that

560
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 2: because I had some feelings about that.

561
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Speaker 1: Well. She had said in the interview that if she

562
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Speaker 1: had any inkling it was him, like for real, thought

563
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: it was him, she would have called the cops. And

564
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: I said, I thought that was respectable that she said that,

565
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: because most people don't. And then I hear on other

566
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: shows that she's getting a lot of criticism for that,

567
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: saying it was attention seeking.

568
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 2: So she listen. I I didn't even have to read

569
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 2: or listen to it or whatever the interview. Was it

570
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:01,479
Speaker 2: just a written article?

571
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, was it? I didn't even have to read it.

572
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 2: Because when I I feel like, if you're the biggest story,

573
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 2: I almost kind of feel like that with Karen Reid too,

574
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 2: she just did some interview with Did you say she

575
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 2: did her first interview?

576
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: No, but I did watch the Lifetime movie last night, guys,

577
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: and I cannot wait to talk about it later this week.

578
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 2: So she did an interview with someone, which I mean

579
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 2: like listen, I'm not the expert on like who's got

580
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 2: the popular podcast and stuff, And obviously Wall Street Journal

581
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 2: is like a really big deal. But I think in

582
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 2: this particular field, if you think about all the people

583
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 2: at crime Kin that are like the true experts of

584
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 2: this entire field, why wouldn't she have gotten interviewed by

585
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 2: one of them that are really immersed in the case

586
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 2: and know all the details of the case. And no,

587
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 2: because she doesn't want to be asked questions, Well, that

588
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 2: would put her on the spot because it's bullshit, like

589
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 2: she's she's actually like like it's it's it's just a lie,

590
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 2: it's just a total lie.

591
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: Well that she's a finance professor, so she's probably more

592
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: comfortable exactly like you're saying, she's more comfortable with the

593
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: idea of Wall Street Journal because she's more familiar with

594
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: their work, because that's probably like her go to news

595
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: outlet before this whole whole thing happened. And why in

596
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: the world would she want to be interviewed by a

597
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: Drew crime expert or a police But she didn't want

598
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: to be interviewed.

599
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 2: She wanted she wanted to go on a platform that

600
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 2: allowed her to say the narrative that she wanted to

601
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 2: give to people with little pushback exactly, and that's exactly

602
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 2: what happens.

603
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: So it's like.

604
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 2: Trying just with like most people reading that, you know,

605
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 2: even my husband, he'd be like whatever because he doesn't know,

606
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 2: like if you're not following that case, like nobody really cares,

607
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 2: and then you would be like, oh, like feel sympathetic

608
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 2: for it, and it's just like, no, we know there's

609
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 2: so many people in this field that know every single

610
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,479
Speaker 2: second of that detail that happened over the course of days,

611
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 2: and just like just let's use for example, that you

612
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 2: heard about this. You've confirmed to us that you heard

613
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 2: that there was this person that killed a bunch of

614
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: college students, and then you thought that you heard that

615
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 2: it was his exact car, right, and then you were like, oh,

616
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 2: well his car was a twenty and fifteen and they

617
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 2: were looking for a car that was a twenty and thirteen.

618
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 2: So I think a lot of it's just the in denial.

619
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Speaker 1: And I guess I guess at first I was saying, like, like,

620
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: I do agree the article was attention seeking behavior, but

621
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: I guess the point I did also want to talk

622
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: about that came out of it that I think a

623
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: lot of people ignored because of the attention seeking behavior.

624
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: Is that a lot of times when these crimes occur,

625
00:33:54,800 --> 00:34:01,239
Speaker 1: the perpetrator's family gets like bombarded and completely harassed, to

626
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: the point where she had to quit her brand new

627
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: job because people like regular people and reporters wouldn't stop

628
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: calling her job. And I just want to talk about

629
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: like that is something that doesn't get seen.

630
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 2: That was like a blessing in disguise because apparently she

631
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 2: was like a mental health expert, and you're like, eh,

632
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: I think that's someone that's brother just was a mass murderer.

633
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: Maybe shouldn't be giving advice to people.

634
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: And I agree with that one hundred percent. But I'm saying, like, like,

635
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 1: even take coburger out of this equation. I think when

636
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: something horrible happens like this, a lot of times, if

637
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: families really have nothing to do with it, and their

638
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: lives are ruined. Obviously not as bad as the victims' families,

639
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: but I'm saying like their lives get ruined in a

640
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: different way.

641
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 2: And Jim Carett even said that with Gabby Petito that

642
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 2: his family was and and and his daughter was the victim,

643
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 2: but just saying that his family got was getting harassed

644
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 2: by the media and stuff like that. And I understand

645
00:34:55,800 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 2: that one hundred percent, and I do I do, I

646
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,439
Speaker 2: I do think that she should have came and spoke out.

647
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 2: It's the same thing with Karen Reid too, But I

648
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 2: almost feel like it's the same with Karen Reid. Like

649
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Speaker 2: the I don't I don't even know who this person

650
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 2: is that she went on this Mango somebody. I don't

651
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: know if you've ever heard of this podcast, it's like

652
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 2: Mango something or it's I don't know who it is,

653
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 2: But like why that person, you know, because because clearly

654
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 2: they weren't gonna they they weren't gonna really challenge you

655
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 2: the way that that you you know, you don't want

656
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 2: to and and and I mean that's her right because

657
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 2: she got out of it. So like if if people

658
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 2: think some people think she's innocent, a lot of people

659
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 2: think she's innocent, then like, why not just stay that

660
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 2: way instead of further deep digging yourself in a hole,

661
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: you know?

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Speaker 1: I mean, there was rumors going around that she was

663
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: possibly going to be going to crime con last year,

664
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Speaker 1: but I like, why the fuck would she go there?

665
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: She's gonna get it on both ends, reporters and people

666
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: challenging her. Why in the world was she go there?

667
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: Of course she's gonna go to Wall Street Journal where

668
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: they're gonna cover the case. They're gonna there are a

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Speaker 1: huge credible news outlet, but they're definitely not gonna have

670
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: the questions lined up to push back on her story

671
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 1: at all, and they're definitely not as well versed as

672
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Speaker 1: people in this universe are. So why would her first

673
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: public appearance be Crime God. I mean, it wouldn't even

674
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: make any sense. It would be huge for Crime God,

675
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: and that would be awesome for them, But like, I

676
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: don't think she would dare walk in that building. Know,

677
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: it was a weeding.

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Speaker 2: The people that people not only the investigators, but actually

679
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 2: the attendees of Crime con like know more about all

680
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 2: of these cases than these people know about these cases.

681
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 2: So it's like walking into the lions. Then you're not

682
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: gonna do it. All Right, let's talk about another case

683
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 2: that's been in the news. We talked about it on

684
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Speaker 2: last week's episode, right about the dentists.

685
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we covered the murders of a dentist and

686
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: his wife, Spenter and Unique Tempe. So basically now her

687
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: ex husband, Monique has been Monique's ex husband has been

688
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,720
Speaker 1: arrested for the crime. And I think this is shocking

689
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: everybody because he's a surgeon, and people want to think

690
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: that somebody that went through all that training and education

691
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 1: and is living their life and doing this nice job

692
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: making a lot of money wouldn't dare kill somebody. But like,

693
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: it's not really looking good for him right now. There.

694
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Speaker 2: I saw this meme going around yesterday that was a

695
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 2: side by side with this guy with the dad from

696
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 2: The Incredibles, and it was just like, tell me, he

697
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 2: doesn't look exactly like this. I can't unsee this. And

698
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, he really does. But anyway, yeah,

699
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Speaker 2: I mean this unfortunately reminds me of the case of

700
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Speaker 2: one of my old friends, Amy Harwick. I wrote about

701
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 2: her in the Grossery Room as well about her murder,

702
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 2: and it was the same kind of a situation that

703
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 2: she was. You know, she was dating the guy and

704
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 2: he was, you know, a stalker, and they hadn't been

705
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: dating for a long time, and then they saw each

706
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 2: other and something triggered something in him to want to

707
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 2: visit her and ultimately kill her. And you would look,

708
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 2: so this happened with this guy. So this guy that

709
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 2: looks like the dad from the Incredibles, he was married

710
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 2: to this woman over nine years ago.

711
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've been married from twenty fifteen to twenty seventeen,

712
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: and according to their friends, they thought it was an

713
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Speaker 1: amicable split.

714
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 2: So something about this guy was and like we'll find

715
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 2: out more as the trial goes on, because they've had

716
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 2: they didn't have children together, because her two little kids

717
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 2: that were found alive in the house were with her

718
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: current husband, So there was something and it will find

719
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 2: out like he was stalking her life online, they had

720
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Speaker 2: some kind of an interaction because especially like if you

721
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 2: dated a guy and married him in your early twenties

722
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 2: and then you're in your thirties and or forties even

723
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 2: and you and you're remarried with other kids, Like there's

724
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 2: really no reason that you would ever even talk to

725
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 2: the guy anymore if you didn't have kids with them, Right,

726
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 2: So it's like we're gonna hear whatever that connection is.

727
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 2: And then I also want to bring up that I

728
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 2: haven't heard because I've seen a lot of things circulating

729
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 2: online with old newspaper clippings of this guy and stuff,

730
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 2: and it says that he was like this star football

731
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 2: player in high school.

732
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: And interesting, Yeah.

733
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Speaker 2: And like I don't know how many times on the

734
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Speaker 2: show that we have to talk about certain cases of

735
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 2: men that are around this age that seem to have

736
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 2: something switch inside of them that makes them violent, and

737
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 2: a lot of times it could be correlated with multiple

738
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 2: incidents of head trauma during contact sports like football. So

739
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 2: I don't know, like this, this is just like an assumption.

740
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 2: This is me just like assuming and going out on

741
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,439
Speaker 2: a limb and thinking this. But we're gonna hear more

742
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 2: as more comes out. Because this guy's a surgeon, so

743
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 2: he's worked with multiple people in a hospital situation, you know, friends, family,

744
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 2: Did he have a history of being a stalker?

745
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:22,479
Speaker 1: Did?

746
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Speaker 2: Did the family know right away when the daughter was killed?

747
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 2: Who did it? That's a huge one you always talk about,

748
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 2: like like right now, if if I ended up murdered,

749
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 2: somebody would say to Maria like who would want to

750
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 2: do this? And and Maria would be like, I don't know,

751
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 2: Like I don't there's no one in her life that's

752
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 2: like her name, you know what I mean like that,

753
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 2: But there's certain people like Jody. When Jody as killed Alexander. Yeah,

754
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: killed Travis Alexander.

755
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: Immediately everybody, all of the.

756
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 2: Friends were like it was Jode because she was such

757
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 2: a psycho when they were dating and stuff. So so

758
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 2: all of that will come out with the details and

759
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 2: we'll cover that case. But it's just it's just a

760
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 2: really sad situation because now and it's likely like, oh,

761
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 2: she's living this happy life that I wanted to have

762
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 2: with her and I don't and I mean, we don't

763
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 2: know anything so well.

764
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's as of now claiming he's innocent, but

765
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: like the evidence they've shown in the press so far

766
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: is pretty damning. They're saying, like his so he lived

767
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: in Chicago, which is three hundred and twenty five miles

768
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: away from where the crime took place, and they have

769
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: been able to successfully track his car in her neighborhood

770
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: in the exact timeframe that they think the murders occurred.

771
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 1: And they have a guy on film on CCTV right,

772
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: same body built like same body type frame and everything.

773
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 1: If you remember when we were talking about this last week,

774
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: remember that there was like this weird nine to one

775
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: to one call from their house and we called it

776
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: automatically that it was some kind of weird cheating domestic situation.

777
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,959
Speaker 1: So I'm just curious, like how this is all gonna

778
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: play out. Somebody on her YouTube actually have a comment

779
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: about that, and of course this is just what this

780
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 1: person's saying, so it's not confirmed or anything, but they're

781
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: saying that it was a nine to one one call

782
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 1: from a party that the couple threw back in April,

783
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: and it was a guest at the party that they

784
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: believe had an edible and alcohol and had a nervous breakdown.

785
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: Well I understand that, so we did know from the beginning,

786
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: so it really hurt. It probably has nothing to do

787
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: with like, yeah, just like you're a random friend that

788
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: just like thought they were taking a gummy to get

789
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: a buzz and like was blitzed out of their minds.

790
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Speaker 2: It's happened to me before. It trusts me, I know, I.

791
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: Mean definitely with what ended up happening, it's like really

792
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 1: scary to think about. But I don't think they're connected

793
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 1: at all. But I'm interested what we're gonna learn about

794
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: this guy and if he's gonna end up going to

795
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 1: trial for this. This episode is brought to you by

796
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Speaker 1: the Grossroom guys.

797
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: So like we said earlier, we covered the high profile

798
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 2: death dis section on Jonathan Gurloc this week in the

799
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 2: Gross Room about the case we were talking about earlier

800
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 2: where we show all the pictures and I show pictures

801
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: of like what legal skolls look like versus his and

802
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 2: just a different decomposition that's going on in his particular case.

803
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: And also we have I have a video that's titled

804
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 2: Elephant getting a pedicure because it looks like an elephant

805
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 2: getting a pedicure, but really it's a human. So we

806
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,919
Speaker 2: talk all about how a human's leg could possibly look

807
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 2: like an elephant's leg, and just what's the most unusual

808
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: situation you've ever been in getting a pedicure? Have you

809
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 2: ever been sitting next to someone that's like, what's going

810
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 2: on here? We also have a case of a person

811
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 2: who was accidentally shot with a celibratory fire, and we

812
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 2: talked about a case that happened on New Year's Eve

813
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:17,479
Speaker 2: last year too, where you know, I'm sure you've heard

814
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,959
Speaker 2: of this sometimes that people like will shoot a gun

815
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 2: up into the air, and so the post is titled

816
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 2: what goes up must come down because this came down

817
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,280
Speaker 2: and embedded in this guy's head. But it's it's interesting

818
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 2: to see a gunshot wound like this that barely scratched

819
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 2: the surface and didn't kill a person straight in the

820
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 2: center of their head. So all that and more in

821
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Speaker 2: the grossroom.

822
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Speaker 1: Head over to the groceryroom dot com now to sign up.

823
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: So in Thailand, a newborn baby was discovered in the

824
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: tank of a toilet in an office building after a

825
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: cleaner heard the baby crying.

826
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean, just imagine being at an office

827
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Speaker 2: building after hours and hearing a baby cry, which is unusual,

828
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 2: and pinpointing the sound and lifting up the lid of

829
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Speaker 2: a toilet and finding a human baby alive in the

830
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Speaker 2: tank of a toilet.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is disgusting on many levels. It's like

832
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: you give they think the baby was we one day old,

833
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: so you give birth to a baby and then like

834
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: there's I don't know how it works in Thailand. I

835
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 1: know here we've talked about it, like fire departments and stuff,

836
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: they have places you could bring a child to surrender

837
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: them kind of like no questions asked. But to put

838
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: a kid in there at all is a disgusting and

839
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: be so morally wrong to do that. I mean, if

840
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: that person didn't hear the child crying. The child could

841
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Speaker 1: have died, and miraculously they survived. And it's not like

842
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: the kid had closed on or anything. So when they

843
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: found the baby, her skin was all shriveled up in everything,

844
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: and she was freezing. They had to bring her to

845
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: the hospital. She's in critical condition. I can't believe she

846
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: survived it.

847
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 2: So they could tell that the baby was born only

848
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 2: within twenty four hours based upon the look of the

849
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,919
Speaker 2: umbilical cord stump. So at that point especially, I mean

850
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,240
Speaker 2: it was immersed in water too, but at that point

851
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 2: it wouldn't be dried out or anything like that, so

852
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 2: it looked like a freshly cut off umbilical cord. They

853
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 2: didn't say it was still attached to the placenta, so

854
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 2: I'm assuming someone cut it. And they also said that

855
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 2: there was really no evidence of anything else, So it

856
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 2: doesn't appear that the mother gave birth in that bathroom

857
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 2: and then stuck it in that bathroom.

858
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and from what the art from the way the

859
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: article is fraesed, it seems like it's gonna be pretty

860
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: easy to figure out who did it because they have

861
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 1: surveillance there.

862
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, she doesn't seem like she's going to be

863
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 2: getting in trouble. All right, let's lighten things up, because

864
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 2: that story is terrible. The pictures are just so sad

865
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 2: to see. The baby's just so cute, and you're just like,

866
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 2: this is so terrible. At least now, hopefully she'll be

867
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 2: able to get adopted and have a decent life and

868
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 2: not know any of that. All right, everyone's got a

869
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 2: booger wall, right.

870
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,720
Speaker 1: Oh my god? There, So I guess since I've been pregnant,

871
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 1: more things are making me want to throw up to

872
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: hear about. But really, I consider myself to be okay

873
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 1: with most things with boogers or one that I don't

874
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: want to see them on anyone else. I just with

875
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 1: that baby or the baby booger sucking tool, Oh my registry,

876
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't even want to have to touch that.

877
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 2: That is that's like if I could, And like, I

878
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 2: haven't had kids in eleven years, so I'm sure there's

879
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 2: better things that have come out since then. But that's

880
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 2: like a number one tool I always recommend to parents

881
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 2: to get because I feel like I've seen one now

882
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 2: that did you get one that's like electric?

883
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 1: And shit?

884
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 2: No, I think it's the one you used to have

885
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 2: that you like, Yeah, it's like ten bucks and you

886
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 2: suck it with your mouth. It's like the best tool ever.

887
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 2: Gabe used to like do it so hard on the

888
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 2: kids that their their eyes would like roll back. It

889
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 2: was like so funny, and he would he would pride

890
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 2: himself in this, not elections he would get from the kids.

891
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 1: So this guy went on social media and was talking

892
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: about his childhood booger wall and said that it accumulated

893
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 1: so many boogers over time that it was several feet wide,

894
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: which is so disgusting. So then he says one day

895
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: he ends up falling against the wall and scraped his

896
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: back and shoulder and had to be hospitalized and he

897
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: ended up having a severe staff infection from it.

898
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 2: This is just so it's just wrong on so many levels.

899
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,439
Speaker 2: How do you have, Like, listen, I have one kid

900
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 2: that's a total slab and then another kid that is

901
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 2: like makes her bed every day, right, but every single

902
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 2: day I go in the room and the one that's

903
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 2: a slob, I go in there every day and I'm

904
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 2: just like cleaning it and helping her because I just

905
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 2: know that her mind, her mind is just kind of messy,

906
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 2: and that's like she just needs help staying organized and

907
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 2: not being overwhelmed and stuff. I just think, like it's

908
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 2: grossed and kids do that or whatever. But if I

909
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,240
Speaker 2: saw one bogger on the wall, I'd be like going

910
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 2: in there with one of those chlorox wipes and like

911
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 2: wiping the wall down and then being like stop doing that.

912
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 2: And how do you just like let your kid accumulate

913
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 2: a wall like that and just leave it there like

914
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 2: it it's just disgusting it. It really is like that's

915
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 2: the parent's fault one hundred percent. But I don't know,

916
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 2: like what do you think about that?

917
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: That was my very first question. How did it get?

918
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,720
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy's talking about how this happened over years,

919
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: and I'm like, this thing was several feet wide and

920
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 1: nobody saw it unless he really had it hidden. But

921
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: it must have not been that hidden if he fell

922
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: on it and got the cuts from it. And also

923
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: how disgusting that it's so hardened that you're getting a

924
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: significant cut and then an infection from it.

925
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 2: So so you normally have staff Arius bacteria on your

926
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 2: skin A lot of people do anyway, So when you

927
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 2: pick your nose and it could be in you're not.

928
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 2: So when you pick your nose, there's a probability that

929
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:06,399
Speaker 2: you have that bacteria in your nose. So you pick

930
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 2: it and then you wipe it on the wall, and

931
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 2: now it no longer has the host of a human, right.

932
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 2: But staph Arius is one of these notorious ones that

933
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 2: can live for days or months on a foamite. A

934
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 2: foam might is considered a non animal object. So this

935
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 2: is oftentimes this is why staff infections could be so

936
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 2: contagious because gym equipment, that's why they tell they leave

937
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 2: those alcoholic wipes there. You can catch it from gym equipment.

938
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 2: Wrestlers can catch it from the floor, and you can't really,

939
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 2: I mean obviously, like leaving the boogie there with it

940
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 2: sitting there is just and breaking the skin. It's just

941
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 2: asking for it, right. People get staff infections all the time.

942
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,720
Speaker 2: That could be something as small as like a little

943
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 2: boil or start like looking like a pimple. You remember

944
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 2: you used to get one on your face, the impentago.

945
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was I need to ask about that at

946
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: the midwife because I get it all the time. And

947
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: I was like, can I use the medicine?

948
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so like and but and it could get

949
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 2: really out of control if you don't, if you don't

950
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 2: get medication and treatment for it, and then it could

951
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 2: get all the way to the point where you have

952
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,760
Speaker 2: to be hospitalized. It gets in your blood, it causes

953
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 2: damage to your organs, and could kill you.

954
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: So it's not a joke. It's just.

955
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 2: This is like the rarest way to get an injury ever.

956
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 2: And it's disgusting. How old was this guy, because because

957
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, you had a booger wall when you're

958
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 2: a kid, But then it sounds like as an adult

959
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 2: he got this this injury or something like it.

960
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 1: No, he was a kid when it happened. He's just

961
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: talking about it. But the worst part of this is

962
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: he's saying that the doctors obviously never experienced anything like

963
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,879
Speaker 1: this before, so they had to go take samples off

964
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,760
Speaker 1: of the walls, and they showed up wearing hazmat suits

965
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: to take the samples. Yeah, which I think over boogers. Yeah,

966
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 1: I just think that that's I don't even understand why

967
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: that happened. That sounds like a little weird.

968
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 2: Honestly, I feel like, right now, if you just went

969
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 2: to the hospital and said that this happened, they'd be like, okay, like,

970
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 2: who's going to do that? It almost doesn't It doesn't

971
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 2: sound true, honestly, Like I'm just like that would nobody's

972
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 2: nobody cares that you could have picked it up at

973
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 2: a gym or something like it unless they I just

974
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 2: don't even I don't even know if I think that

975
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 2: that's true.

976
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: This is a social media tale, so there is a

977
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: large probability that it is not factual. I mean, I

978
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:50,240
Speaker 1: I do believe.

979
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 2: I do believe that it's possible in theory, In scientific theory,

980
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 2: it is possible that he got a scrape and infection

981
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 2: because you know, like a dried booger is is like

982
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 2: a knife. So I do believe that it is possible,

983
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 2: although maybe not probable. But the rest of the hazmat story,

984
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 2: I'm just like, that doesn't even make any sense. It's

985
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 2: a staff is like a bread and butter microbiology infection.

986
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 2: It's not like some weird bacteria that you're like, Okay,

987
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,760
Speaker 2: where did someone America get this weird bacterial infection from.

988
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 2: They're not sending the CDC out there like it's it

989
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 2: just doesn't make any sense.

990
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: I'm just the most bothered that the parents never found

991
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: the booger wall, and it got so severe it is

992
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: so disgusting.

993
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 2: All right, I want to know if you what you

994
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 2: guys think about the booger wall?

995
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you have a booger wall? How big was it?

996
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: What did it look like? How long did it take

997
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: for your parents to find it? Were they going to

998
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: sell the house with this giant boger wall? How do

999
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: you get it off the wall with a scraper? No?

1000
00:53:55,880 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: Thank you? All right. Apparently people are now getting bbls

1001
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 1: from a product that's sourced from cadavers.

1002
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 2: So plastic surgeons are saying that this is good because

1003
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 2: sometimes when women or I guess men could get them too.

1004
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:16,760
Speaker 2: When people go get a BBL or Brazilian butt lift,

1005
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 2: the typical procedure is that they liposuction fat from your

1006
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 2: abdomen and from your flanks, and then they take that

1007
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 2: fat and then they reinject it into your butt to

1008
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 2: make your butt look bigger. But sometimes there's challenges because

1009
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 2: if a woman is really skinny, there's nowhere to liposuction

1010
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 2: fat from, or if the woman or the man, whatever

1011
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 2: the person has already had previous liposuction, it's very hard

1012
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 2: to get more fat off of them, So they take

1013
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 2: fat from cadavers and they process it by clearing. They

1014
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,919
Speaker 2: say they're able to clear the DNA and everything from

1015
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 2: it so a person doesn't have a reaction to it,

1016
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,760
Speaker 2: and then they're able to inject it with a needle

1017
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 2: in an office where you don't even need to get

1018
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 2: general anesthesia. So in theory that it seems to be

1019
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 2: a much safer thing if more people start using it,

1020
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 2: because a BBL at this point is considered to be

1021
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 2: the most dangerous plastic surgery that is there that is

1022
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 2: out there right now because of the anesthesia, but also

1023
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 2: because of the fat injections and possibly hitting a major

1024
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 2: blood vessel while you're doing that and causing a fat

1025
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 2: embolism or something like that, which there's been documented cases

1026
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:41,280
Speaker 2: of it every single year. So there has to be special,

1027
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 2: really skilled surgeons that know exactly how to do this

1028
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 2: procedure and not hit the wrong area by accident. And

1029
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 2: obviously we know that people go to other countries to

1030
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 2: get this stuff done, and we're illegal clinics, people not

1031
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 2: skilled in anatomy to really know how you can cause

1032
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 2: a serious problem with someone. So this was answered in

1033
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,959
Speaker 2: the article a little bit but one of the things was, well,

1034
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 2: when you donate your body to science, Like if I say,

1035
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 2: when I die, I want to donate my body to

1036
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,240
Speaker 2: a medical school or you know, to science in general,

1037
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,280
Speaker 2: You're like, I wouldn't think they were taking my fat

1038
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 2: to use it to charge people to inject it into

1039
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 2: their bodies. But this company is saying that everyone that

1040
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 2: donates to them is aware that it's being used for

1041
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 2: this purpose. But I also just think it's weird that

1042
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 2: you donate to this company and then this donate this

1043
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 2: company is then charge. I mean, I understand that they're

1044
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 2: processing it and stuff like that, but they're still making

1045
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 2: money off of something that was given to them for free.

1046
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it said it could cost up to ten

1047
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: thousand dollars with this specific product, But I don't I mean,

1048
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what BBOs cost, and I assume like

1049
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 1: when you're in California or Miami, you're a higher income

1050
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,879
Speaker 1: area and whatever, depending on the clinic or the doctor

1051
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: you're going to. It's said online you they go up

1052
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: to twenty grand, which I think is pretty cheap for

1053
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:07,439
Speaker 1: one of those, Isn't it.

1054
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 2: Like, oh, you can get them, But if you go

1055
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 2: to one of these like mass produced clinics, like in

1056
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 2: Miami you could get one for like five grand or

1057
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 2: six grand.

1058
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: Wow.

1059
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, the thing is is that people pay it.

1060
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 2: People want it done, and people will pay it. I'm

1061
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 2: I'm of the of the you know. I Sometimes I

1062
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 2: see people that have that done, and I think it

1063
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 2: looks good on a lot of people. Other people, like

1064
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 2: especially they're talking about like people that are so thin

1065
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 2: that there's no fat tussuction off of their bodies to

1066
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 2: put it in their butt. Sometimes I see people have

1067
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 2: these huge butts and their thighs are so skinny, and

1068
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 2: it just looks so weird, like it's so obvious, but whatever.

1069
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: Like people also get.

1070
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 2: Big fake boobs that look obviously fake, and like some

1071
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:51,919
Speaker 2: people are just going for that look.

1072
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: So I said, even to the Curriculus day, I was like,

1073
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: I don't understand how people get these enormous boob jobs

1074
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: when there's you skinny, because they feel very front heavy

1075
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: right now between like my bellies starting to get bigger

1076
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: and my boob's getting bigger, And why would you want

1077
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: to live like that all the time? It's so uncomfortable.

1078
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think I would be like that too,

1079
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 2: with just any implants in general, because I'm like one

1080
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 2: of those people that are super aware of like a

1081
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 2: seam in my sock and it drives me nuts all day.

1082
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 2: And I have I only wear like one certain brand

1083
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 2: of socks that has no seams in it. I can't

1084
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 2: wear another sock they have, you know, like stuff like that.

1085
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 2: So I always think, like, if I had an implant

1086
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 2: under my boob and like one of them wasn't comfortable

1087
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 2: or something, I'd want to like rip it out and

1088
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 2: I would be asleep.

1089
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: No way at all. Yeah, I thought it was interesting

1090
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: because they said this might be used for face filler

1091
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: in the future too, So I just wonder how many

1092
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: different procedures you're going to try to use.

1093
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's I mean, obviously we've heard about this

1094
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 2: that there's this huge growing problem with people taking the

1095
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 2: gl P one drugs and having fat loss and prematurely wrinkling.

1096
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 2: So this would be a good alternative.

1097
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: I know they do.

1098
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 2: They do do it already sometimes, so it's not it's

1099
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 2: not new, They're just they're just saying that people more

1100
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 2: surgeons are increasingly using the product.

1101
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: I just think it's gonna maybe. I don't think BBLS

1102
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:25,439
Speaker 1: are as in fashion as they've been the last ten years, though,

1103
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: like I think they're making their way out, so it

1104
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:32,959
Speaker 1: seems kind of dumb to introduce this product at this point.

1105
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 2: I'm I'm actually interested in a BBL for myself, doctor Miami.

1106
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 1: No.

1107
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 2: I seriously like I have, like I have, like Taylor

1108
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 2: Swift flat ass syndrome.

1109
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: What's it called.

1110
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 2: There's like a name for it that people have, like

1111
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 2: a name for her a pancake.

1112
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: But it just.

1113
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 2: Like like I would be interested in it, but it's

1114
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 2: just so dangerous and if I was just my if

1115
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 2: I was Nicole and didn't have little kids, I would

1116
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 2: have gotten it done. I'm not lying, but the procedure

1117
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 2: is so risky that I'm like, does it bother me

1118
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 2: that bad that I have a flat ass? Like, yes,

1119
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 2: it bothers me, but like I'm not going to risk

1120
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 2: my life when I have little kids for for that.

1121
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 2: It just seems like it's it's kind of a bigger risk.

1122
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 2: But I'm interested in it because some of the because

1123
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,919
Speaker 2: for me, I have like the whitest tips and the

1124
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 2: biggest thighs anyway that nobody would even be like, oh

1125
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 2: that looks weird, because it would match you would, you will.

1126
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 2: And when it looks good when it when it's on

1127
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 2: a body that's proportionate, like I feel like it. Actually

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01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 2: it looks like good if it's not overdone.

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Speaker 1: I would never get like breast in plants, but I

1130
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 1: think in the future I could be. And don't they

1131
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 1: do like a lift or something where they could like

1132
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 1: make them smaller but like make them nice.

1133
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't know. I personally, I don't like

1134
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 2: the scars. I feel like scars are kind of distracting.

1135
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 2: And some people will say that they could barely see

1136
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 2: their scars and that's fine. I'm just like so white,

1137
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 2: so you could always see my scars if I had them.

1138
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 2: I feel like they should be able to do like

1139
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 2: a build a bear situation, like your boobs, Like your

1140
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:26,919
Speaker 2: boobs are just kind of deflated, so just like put

1141
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 2: a hole in it and fill it up with some

1142
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 2: fat or something stuff it just stuff it like the

1143
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 2: empty builde bear.

1144
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god. All right, on your questions and emails.

1145
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 1: This first one was sent to us on Instagram. I'm

1146
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 1: not gonna share this Firsu's name because some of the

1147
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 1: information I don't want people figuring out who is she said,

1148
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: I recently listened to your podcast about the Baltimore County

1149
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 1: firefighter that violated his station. His name is Christopher M. Carroll.

1150
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: He was in court on December twenty ninth, and apparently

1151
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 1: also did this in restaurants and in the gym. I

1152
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 1: live in the same county and we all also our

1153
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: volunteers in our local stations, so that's how we found

1154
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:06,439
Speaker 1: his name. He also did it to his estranged wife,

1155
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 1: who has been taken out, who has taken out a

1156
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 1: protection order against him, and now is reported in the

1157
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 1: news you sent me this morning that he is appealing

1158
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 1: that violation order.

1159
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 2: Well, that article was sent to me by a firefighter

1160
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 2: AMT that worked there. So who's been keeping me up

1161
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 2: to date with this case? Which is so many more

1162
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 2: disturbing details are coming out. First, he's calling this like

1163
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 2: his art ew which which is gross. The grossest thing though,

1164
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 2: was the white The wife found videos of him ejaculating

1165
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 2: into her mouthwash and saying other products that their children

1166
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 2: also used. All right, that's like, not that the whole

1167
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 2: thing hasn't been crossing a line, but that's jail forever.

1168
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 2: Like you are subjecting your own children and any children

1169
01:02:58,440 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 2: at all to this.

1170
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 1: This is disgusting.

1171
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 2: Some of these stories that we read. You just think, Okay,

1172
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 2: the kids, I don't even know how old disguised kids are, right,

1173
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 2: But like some of these stories that we read that

1174
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 2: we read were just like what happens when these children

1175
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 2: get older and start using Google? I mean, could you

1176
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 2: just imagine learning that about your parent? Why aren't my

1177
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 2: parents together? And googling him and this information coming up.

1178
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 2: It's not only like, Okay, it's weird that he was

1179
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 2: ejaculating using people's chapstick in his butthole and stuff at

1180
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 2: the firehouse. Okay, that's one level of weird. But to

1181
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 2: know that he was, I mean, that's it's sexual assault

1182
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 2: to me. It's just it's so grown. Yeah, and I

1183
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 2: hope they're able to hit him with a lot of

1184
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 2: different charges as it relates to that stuff.

1185
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 1: This is really disturbed, It really is, all right. Next

1186
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 1: is from Amanda. I am the lawyer and want to

1187
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 1: be doctor who brought along her mini me to crime con.

1188
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: I was shadowing my Ubigi and the other day and

1189
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 1: I was actually able to witness a d During the DNC,

1190
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 1: the doctor discovered a long tudinal vaginal septum that ran

1191
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 1: the length of the vagina but stopped before the cervix.

1192
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 1: She only had one cervix, but during the DNC the

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01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 1: physician found a possible by corniate uters. Is that the

1194
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 1: right pronulus? You say it? Wait? The physician couldn't tell

1195
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 1: if it was that or a single with a huge septum.

1196
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 1: This lady had experienced repeated miscarriages and the physician has

1197
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 1: never had the ability to examine her because the patient

1198
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 1: always presented at the time of loss. She has no

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01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 1: issue getting pregnant, and the septum was so flexible it

1200
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 1: ends up laying against the vaginal wall. During examination and intercourse,

1201
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 1: the HSG never showed the separate cavity. So that's part

1202
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 1: one to that. So do you want to comment on

1203
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 1: that before I get into the part two? Yeah, So

1204
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 1: what is the correct pronuncie?

1205
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 2: When you when you're developing as a female fetus, you

1206
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 2: have these docks called them all ducks, and there's two

1207
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 2: of them, and as the fetus is developing, those two

1208
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 2: ducks get together and they fuse to make one, which

1209
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 2: ends up being the uterus, cervix, and vagina. But just

1210
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 2: like everything, while we're developing as a fetus, something can

1211
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 2: go wrong or not go one hundred percent right. And

1212
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 2: when those two ducks come together, sometimes they stick together,

1213
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 2: but they don't completely form one tube. It's only it

1214
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 2: could be like two tubes are part of two tubes, right,

1215
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 2: So there is a possibility that the two tubes get

1216
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 2: so close together and just stick together. But they essentially

1217
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 2: make two separate vaginas, two separate cervixes, two separate uteruses

1218
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:54,919
Speaker 2: depending on how at what state of fusion that is,

1219
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 2: is what this lady is describing. So she's saying that

1220
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 2: this woman had a septum between her vaginas, so she

1221
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 2: basically had two vaginas, is what she's saying. But she's

1222
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 2: saying that that that that septum in between the two

1223
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 2: vaginas was so soft that when the penis went in

1224
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 2: the one side, it pushed over to make to make

1225
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 2: one vagina. Basically like it was soft, it wasn't hard

1226
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 2: for a penis to go in there. It does that

1227
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 2: make sense? Yeah, So, but then at the level of

1228
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 2: the cervix, it seemed to have fused just fine and

1229
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 2: there was no issues, which is why there's one cervix.

1230
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 2: And then with the uterus, it doesn't seem like it

1231
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 2: fused all the way. So she's saying that either that

1232
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 2: there's a full septum, making it two totally different uterine cavities,

1233
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 2: or a bicornate uterus, which would be like there's two

1234
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 2: different cavities and there's a little bit of a septum

1235
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 2: in between them, but like they still can communicate with

1236
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 2: one another. So a normal uterine cavity is like a

1237
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 2: trying shape and this and this one is more of

1238
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 2: like a almost like a heart shape in a way.

1239
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 1: So it just.

1240
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 2: Like that septum could affect how a growing fetus, you know,

1241
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 2: the room a fetus has to grow.

1242
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 1: People.

1243
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 2: I mean, we've had stories on here. I think that

1244
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 2: people have gotten pregnant and like one side of their

1245
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 2: uterus with one baby and one side of their uterus

1246
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 2: with another baby. Yeah, so it's it's it's so cool.

1247
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 2: It's like one of my I love I love embryological

1248
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 2: uh defects and congenital defects are so they're they're really

1249
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 2: fun to see because you could see them, you know,

1250
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 2: it's evidence of like what was happening when you were

1251
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 2: a fetus when you're an adult. It's just really cool.

1252
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know, because I don't I'm not

1253
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 2: in obgan. I don't know what specific testing needs to

1254
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 2: be done in order to see that. I would think

1255
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 2: that on what's that you had that test on, right whatever?

1256
01:07:56,480 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 1: She was saying that, Uh, well she's talking about a

1257
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 1: d n C now, not the DNC that the test,

1258
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 1: oh the HSG. Yeah, I had that. So that's like

1259
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 1: a X ray using contrast of that cavity.

1260
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's weird that that wasn't picked up. But

1261
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 2: I don't know what the typical test is to show that.

1262
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 2: But it's still interesting because it it's it's not very

1263
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:26,879
Speaker 2: common in general defect.

1264
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is interesting on that test because I.

1265
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 2: Feel, I mean, that's just the whole point of that test.

1266
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't look at the pictures like super long, right,

1267
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 1: but like the doctor that did it was showing me

1268
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 1: like how fucked my Philippians was on it. So yeah,

1269
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I do think it's interesting they that it

1270
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 1: didn't pick it up, but I think it's I think

1271
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 1: it's cool, Like I wonder what it looked like, what

1272
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 1: the full thing looks like. I guess you won't know

1273
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 1: until the end of her life, right, unless she's cut

1274
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 1: open or whatever, what the full cavity looks like.

1275
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you can get you could. I mean

1276
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 2: I've seen them in surgical pathology all the time. You

1277
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 2: get her hysterectomy for it. Yeah, but now I feel

1278
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 2: like I feel like an MRI or another test could

1279
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 2: really look at it better. I'm just not really sure

1280
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 2: exactly how they see it. But i mean, how did

1281
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 2: what did she just say? How did they figure it out?

1282
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 2: Because they were doing the DNCA, So DNC is a

1283
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 2: dilation and curetage.

1284
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 1: They're done.

1285
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 2: They could be a procedure done so they dilate the

1286
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 2: cervix and they go up inside of the uter in

1287
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 2: cavity and they kind of scrape it out. It can

1288
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 2: be done in abortions, but it also could be done

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Speaker 2: in a person that had a miscarriage and maybe all

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Speaker 2: of the products didn't come out. Or it could also

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Speaker 2: be like I've had one done because I had endometrial polyps,

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01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:58,760
Speaker 2: so I had to get it done like as a

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01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 2: biopsy kind of. So there's different reasons why they do

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01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 2: it and why they could have been up there. But

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01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 2: if she was having trouble, uh getting pregnant, that's I

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01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 2: mean that would definitely be a test to help figure

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01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 2: out what was going on in there, all right.

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Speaker 1: So part two of this is also I kept thinking

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Speaker 1: about the Chipotle case to give some procedural insight. The

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01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,599
Speaker 1: petition in a case only needs to state the amount

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01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 1: of damages for purposes of determining the correct jurisdiction for

1302
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 1: bringing the case its strategy. The pleadings are also unspecific

1303
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 1: because most of the time discovery is required to further

1304
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:39,639
Speaker 1: prove allegations, and in general specifics are left for the jury.

1305
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 1: The other party will discover what they need to through

1306
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 1: written discovery and depositions. And finally, when it comes to damages,

1307
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 1: you must have some type of damages. In Texas, mental

1308
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 1: damages must accompany a physical manifestation. We need something objected

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01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 1: to determine the value of the case, and we do

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01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 1: not want people taking advantage of the court for damages

1311
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:03,759
Speaker 1: that are unmeasurable and based on what could have happened

1312
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 1: versus what did happen. Bystanderd cases are appropriate in cases

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01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 1: of a family member witnessing a loved one die or

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01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:15,879
Speaker 1: be seriously injured. So that's in reference to the alleged

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01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:18,599
Speaker 1: rat that was found in the cold.

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01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 2: I mean that could be anything too, because I feel

1317
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:23,839
Speaker 2: like that was like what happened when I had Lilian.

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01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 2: I could have died, I almost.

1319
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 1: Whatever, but like it didn't.

1320
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:31,720
Speaker 2: We both walked away with nothing, and like everybody has

1321
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 2: emotional trauma from it, but it's not anything that could

1322
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 2: be measured or I mean, I didn't even try to

1323
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 2: do anything with them, but because I mean I would

1324
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 2: just want to just just to get them in trouble,

1325
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 2: so maybe they would change some of their practices, but

1326
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 2: other than that. But yeah, like dude, just listening to

1327
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 2: that lawyer talk just it makes my head spin. I

1328
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 2: just all those words and stuff. It just it just

1329
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:01,719
Speaker 2: is very hard for me to follow. Like what that means.

1330
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 2: It's their talk is so fancy and extra and.

1331
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 1: Just I do envy the intelligence of this listener and

1332
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 1: how they could write in so well. I feel like

1333
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 1: I feel like our biggest flaw is like we are

1334
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 1: funny and everything, like we can't always like get our

1335
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:22,719
Speaker 1: thoughts out in a clear way.

1336
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 2: But whatever, speak for yourself. I don't think that's a flaw.

1337
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 2: I think that's that's why people listen to us, because

1338
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 2: we're not trying to talk over their head. But yeah,

1339
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 2: like we we You know, I've dealt with a lawyer

1340
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 2: for a contract before, and I just really I really

1341
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 2: envy people that can do that job, because I wanted

1342
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 2: to cry just trying to read the contract, Like I

1343
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 2: seriously wanted to cry. I'm like, how do you How

1344
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 2: could you sit there all day and look at a

1345
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 2: couple pieces of paper and go by line by line

1346
01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 2: and just dissect what every single one of them means

1347
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 2: and how it might affect your client. It's I mean,

1348
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 2: it's I love that people are there to do that,

1349
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 2: because I certainly and that's why they get paid a lot, right.

1350
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 1: Well, I think some people also just like doing it,

1351
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 1: like sitting, especially when you're doing contracts. Oh that's all

1352
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 1: they do. I mean you saw how they were nerded

1353
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 1: out over it. Oh yeah, they must get some satisfaction

1354
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 1: from it.

1355
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:25,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1356
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 1: But all right, last, as mother and daughter with your

1357
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 1: biggest similarities and differences, isn't that something the listeners could

1358
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 1: probably already figure out?

1359
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 2: Uh?

1360
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm interested what they think face on knowing us.

1361
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I I feel like, I don't know, I

1362
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 1: feel like we're the most similar and the most different

1363
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 1: people at the same time. It's this weird dynamic Maria is.

1364
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 2: Maria is like an uber rule follower, and I'm an

1365
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 2: uber not role follower.

1366
01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 1: Which gives me massive anxiety.

1367
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 2: And hers get me massive anxiety.

1368
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 1: I am super a type. I write a list every

1369
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:08,080
Speaker 1: single morning for my day, and I write one for

1370
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 1: the week at the beginning of the week. And if

1371
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:13,680
Speaker 1: I don't get things checked off, I get major anxiety.

1372
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 1: And she doesn't give a shit when things have one.

1373
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 2: I've been checked my email in days. I don't write

1374
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 2: people back.

1375
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 1: You have thirty thousand unread emails. I don't keep the

1376
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 1: red push notification there longer than five minutes. I don't.

1377
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 2: I am of the mindset that I don't feel like

1378
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:34,759
Speaker 2: I have to answer to anyone.

1379
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 1: We know.

1380
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 2: Well, I'm serious, Like, just because bones exist doesn't mean

1381
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 2: that I have to get back to people. It just

1382
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 2: doesn't Like I don't. I don't owe that to anyone.

1383
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 1: I agree with that.

1384
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 2: No, you don't, because you can't even sleep if you

1385
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 2: don't write somebody back. It drives you nuts.

1386
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, but where I get most annoyed with you is

1387
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,720
Speaker 1: when I send you a clip that I want to

1388
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:01,560
Speaker 1: put on Instagram and like four o'clock in the afternoon,

1389
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 1: and then at nine thirty, you'll be like, take this

1390
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 1: part out, because.

1391
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 2: What's happening in my life At four o'clock in the afternoon,

1392
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 2: I'm picking the kids up from school, coming right home,

1393
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 2: prepping dinner, cooking dinner, eating dinner, picking up from dance,

1394
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 2: driving here, driving there, putting the kids to bed, talking

1395
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:21,720
Speaker 2: them in, making sure they have showers. And what is

1396
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 2: nine thirty? This is exactly Listen, nine thirty is their bedtime.

1397
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 2: So all of a sudden, I write back because that's

1398
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 2: when I'm like, oh, I have a second to myself.

1399
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 2: I can't wait till you have a freaking kid. Man,

1400
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:34,759
Speaker 2: you're gonna get something. You're just gonna get a big

1401
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 2: culture shock of what.

1402
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:38,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a dose of your own medicine

1403
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 1: and see how it feels.

1404
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:43,839
Speaker 2: No, I just I'm really looking forward to watching this.

1405
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 1: I'd say, and I'll be like, oh, you couldn't get

1406
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 1: back to me for four hours.

1407
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:50,839
Speaker 2: Oh are you busy or something doing something?

1408
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:52,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm gonna give you a dose of your

1409
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 1: own medicine and see how you like it. But You're like,

1410
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 1: I need this video for the gross room. It's gonna

1411
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 1: take me. Instead of five minutes, it's gonna take be

1412
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:07,679
Speaker 1: like seven hours. See how it feels okay. Decore wise,

1413
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 1: I feel like we're both maximalists, but in very different ways.

1414
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 1: You like dark romantic tones. I like very bright retro

1415
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 1: mid century stuff. But we still decorate in the same

1416
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:22,639
Speaker 1: kind of way decorate. I guess I maximalist. You're saying, yeah,

1417
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:24,599
Speaker 1: Like I feel like it's the way we dress too,

1418
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 1: Like you have a very specific, specific style and I do,

1419
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:30,599
Speaker 1: and they're like similar but different. I lean more into

1420
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:33,040
Speaker 1: your style for the show because that's kind of what

1421
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 1: the show vibe is, and I like to match and

1422
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 1: be coordinated in everything. But in real life, I think

1423
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:40,559
Speaker 1: I wear way more bright colors.

1424
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 2: We're both really good with with colors.

1425
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 1: We're really good with colors. Sometimes it's like the worst

1426
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:50,719
Speaker 1: curse you could know. It is the worst curse.

1427
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 2: It ruins my life. And I did I tell you

1428
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 2: I pinpointed that to my childhood. No, when I I remember,

1429
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 2: I just really over Christmas when I was a little kid.

1430
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 2: I would just drop, like be in the car, and

1431
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:05,600
Speaker 2: you know, we didn't have phones and stuff, so we

1432
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 2: actually had to look out the window when I was

1433
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:09,879
Speaker 2: a kid, and I would look at all the houses

1434
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 2: and get like crazy when people have Christmas lights that

1435
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 2: don't match, even if it's like the same colors, but

1436
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 2: they're like different sizes and stuff like that. Like I

1437
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 2: would just like like strip the house in my mind

1438
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 2: and be like, oh, if the Christmas lights look like

1439
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 2: this and like that, it would just look so much better.

1440
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 2: And now I'm like I was doing it as I

1441
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:34,719
Speaker 2: was doing it recently, even how they're hung up and everything,

1442
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 2: like I was doing it recently when we were driving

1443
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:38,759
Speaker 2: around on our trip, because people still have their Christmas

1444
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 2: lights up all over the country, and I was just like, wow,

1445
01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 2: this is where I got. I've been doing this since

1446
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 2: I was a little kid.

1447
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 1: I told you. I was at the store. We have

1448
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:55,560
Speaker 1: red and white warm white lights. And Ricky goes and

1449
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 1: picks up this box of icicles and they're cool white. Now,

1450
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 1: like you can't do that, and he's looking at me

1451
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 1: like crazy, and I'm like, you can't have cool white

1452
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 1: with warm white.

1453
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 2: If I went over your house and saw that, I

1454
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 2: would rip it down, well I could. I would be

1455
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 2: like I can't sleep tonight with this looking like this.

1456
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 1: And he's like, I want to put them up today

1457
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you're just gonna have to wait. I

1458
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 1: have to order warm white. Yes, I don't know what

1459
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 1: you want.

1460
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:22,600
Speaker 2: That's like, That's the one that really bothers me is

1461
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 2: the warm and the cool lights. There's I have a

1462
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 2: flood light in my backyard that's cool. I didn't even

1463
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 2: put it in. I don't know how to change like

1464
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 2: I guess I would have to get up on some

1465
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 2: crazy ladder to change it. And the rest of the

1466
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 2: lighting around my house is warm and it drives me

1467
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 2: absolutely nuts when it goes off. It just like I

1468
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 2: hate it.

1469
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 1: And our biggest similarity making fun of one Beth Qualitiri,

1470
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 1: because she sent me a shirt the other day that

1471
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:52,679
Speaker 1: said she she is like the easiest person I swear.

1472
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 1: That said dips on the redhead with a giant shamrock

1473
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 1: like I'd everywhere shirt and she sent it to.

1474
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 2: Me before Wait did I show you? I did tell

1475
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 2: you about the one I So I told you about

1476
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 2: the one that she sent me with the christmaswater that

1477
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 2: was like days after Christmas and it was terrible and it.

1478
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:14,679
Speaker 1: Was just like what did it say?

1479
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 2: It was something about like liking the color pink and.

1480
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:22,639
Speaker 1: It was something about Flamingo's. You know, I'm trying.

1481
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:27,800
Speaker 2: So I just downloaded this new this new update on

1482
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:31,719
Speaker 2: the phone, which is something that drives me absolutely crazy.

1483
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:34,839
Speaker 2: You know how used to go in your text messages

1484
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 2: and then you could you could hit the person's face

1485
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 2: and then all of your pictures that you've had in

1486
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 2: your conversation show up.

1487
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

1488
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 2: I just can't figure out how to do that anymore.

1489
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 2: And I'm not even sure it's an option anymore.

1490
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 1: I do you ever know? I don't think I'm the

1491
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 1: new update, but I've noticed lately it's not accurate because

1492
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 1: I will know for a fact you sent me a

1493
01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 1: picture like yesterday, for example, and when I we text

1494
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 1: so much in between, I'll just hit that to try

1495
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 1: to find it and it just won't be in there.

1496
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 1: But if I scroll up, it will be there.

1497
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 2: So when I go in here now it says I'm

1498
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 2: in gabes for example, it says download six hundred and

1499
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:16,040
Speaker 2: fifty three attachments in eye cloud. Why so I can't.

1500
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:19,280
Speaker 2: I just can't see, Man, that's gonna really make it

1501
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:21,639
Speaker 2: is because I referenced that I use that a lot.

1502
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 2: But with typical Apple like it just every single time

1503
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:29,799
Speaker 2: you have to progress and just make it different. Everything's different.

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01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 2: Every single time I text you, I feel like I'm

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01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 2: in Instagram and sending a message to you because that's

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01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:37,520
Speaker 2: what it looks like now instead of the text message.

1507
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 2: And I had to can't. I know it sucks. So anyway,

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01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 2: she sent me a picture of some really cheesy Christmas

1509
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 2: sweater from Timu. Everything's from Timu. Of course, she sent

1510
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 2: me one a couple of weeks ago that was the

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01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:53,599
Speaker 2: same exact thing, and it said dibbs on the Fireman.

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01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 1: And I'm just like.

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01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:03,600
Speaker 2: Something triggers in her head that she's just like Fireman

1514
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:10,640
Speaker 2: Nicole text send. There's no other thought outside of those things.

1515
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:13,320
Speaker 2: It's a very it's a very primitive way of thinking.

1516
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:20,640
Speaker 2: It's just like Maria cowboy stuff, text message send it

1517
01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:23,639
Speaker 2: has something that she'll like, Oh, I see a cowboy boot,

1518
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:26,799
Speaker 2: get it. I called Pop up at like nine o'clock

1519
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 2: this morning and he said she was awake, and I said, oh,

1520
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:32,679
Speaker 2: it's I'm surprised because it's the middle of the night

1521
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 2: for oh And he thought that was the funniest thing.

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01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 1: It is.

1523
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 2: We always mess with her because like I'll call and then,

1524
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:41,719
Speaker 2: especially on the weekend, and it'll be like ten o'clock

1525
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 2: and she's like I could clearly tell that I woke

1526
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 2: her up. And I'm like, Mom, I've I'm done like

1527
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 2: half of my day already. Today it's ten o'clock in

1528
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 2: the morning. I've done like, I've written three articles, I've

1529
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:58,599
Speaker 2: cleaned this, I've watered my plants, you know, I made

1530
01:21:58,640 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 2: the bed, this and that. And I'm like, in you're

1531
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:00,720
Speaker 2: still in bed.

1532
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:03,799
Speaker 1: You better call him, by the way, because I assume

1533
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:06,680
Speaker 1: he hasn't heard from you in like forty eight hours.

1534
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:07,040
Speaker 1: Thinks you're dead.

1535
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:11,120
Speaker 2: I was just thinking that today. I'm like, I didn't

1536
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:12,720
Speaker 2: talk to him yesterday.

1537
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:15,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was like, where is your mother? And I'm like,

1538
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:18,720
Speaker 1: I don't know. She's at her house. I don't keep

1539
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:22,800
Speaker 1: tabs on her all day jesus, So you better call

1540
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 1: him because he thinks you did. All right, Well, this

1541
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 1: has been the longest episode ever, so we have a

1542
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Speaker 1: few guys love it. We're still waiting for our live

1543
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1544
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1549
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:54,200
Speaker 2: Say you guys, thank you for listening to Mother Nos Death.

1550
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:58,599
Speaker 2: As a reminder, my training is as a pathologist assistant.

1551
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:02,839
Speaker 2: I have a man level education and specialize in anatomy

1552
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Speaker 2: and pathology education. I am not a doctor and I

1553
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1558
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:30,960
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1560
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1561
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