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Speaker 2: Now, how do we top what we saw last night

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Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball? Well, we've got plenty of opportunity

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Speaker 2: to do so, some huge games on the slate as

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Speaker 2: we begin another week of the National Football League schedule. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it's near the halfway mark of everything, so lists of

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Speaker 2: MVPs would be hopeful, Super Bowl runs all of those things.

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Speaker 2: We'll discuss that in earnest as we get ready for

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Speaker 2: another big Fox Football Sunday. Here Fox Sports Radio, I'm

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Speaker 2: Mike Carmon. Hopefully all enjoyed your extra hours sleep if

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Speaker 2: you had to work through the night. I'm looking squarely

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Speaker 2: at my colleagues, Brianna and Mark. I should have brought

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Speaker 2: you large coffees to get you through as we get going.

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Speaker 2: But we're ready for another big day here Football Action.

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Speaker 2: Mike Carmon, Greg Cosel forty six years NFL films, The

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Speaker 2: NFL Matchup show you hear a weekly on the network

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Speaker 2: with Colin Cowherd one o'clock Eastern time, fifteen to twenty

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Speaker 2: minutes of film review and then we get to do

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Speaker 2: it without the video component. But he paints a picture.

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Speaker 2: He's Bob ross On the airwaves. It's Greg Cosell. How

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Speaker 2: you do Greg.

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Speaker 3: Mikey Witch shaken? How is your week in Baltimore? Do

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Speaker 3: you saw a pretty interesting game that you saw last week?

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Speaker 3: Coach Baltimore's played another game since, but maybe that game

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Speaker 3: you saw got him going.

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Speaker 2: Well, that'll do it. It's funny. I only had one

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Speaker 2: big interaction with some Ravens fans and it wasn't even

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Speaker 2: directed at them. It was my brothers and I were

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Speaker 2: you're buying tickets going into a city, you're doing your

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Speaker 2: best to sit together, but sometimes it becomes a you know,

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Speaker 2: four and two or three and two kind of three

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Speaker 2: was the one play that is now yielded. I think

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Speaker 2: it was like a forty six thousand dollars fine that

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Speaker 2: might have had some importance, a helmet to helmet call

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Speaker 2: And so you know, folks get a little animated. Oh

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Speaker 2: you're desperate. I'm like, that doesn't mean I'm wrong.

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Speaker 3: You mean you're not the kind of fan that you're

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Speaker 3: sits there quietly with your mouth closed and watches the game.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, well, I mean look most of the

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Speaker 2: time you ask my daughter on her soccer weekends. No

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Speaker 2: all that, I'm Joe quiet.

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Speaker 3: I'm just passed one of those dads. Huh.

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Speaker 2: Those no, like the referees get paid. They can wear

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Speaker 2: it a little bit when there's uh, you know, the

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Speaker 2: usually over a matter of safety. But no, Baltimore was great.

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Speaker 2: It was my first time at M and T. I

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Speaker 2: had a great time thanks to my hosts out there

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Speaker 2: at the radio network. Noah took good care of me.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: They they sweated me out. That was the one thing

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Speaker 2: I found out in Baltimore, Greg that really just kind

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Speaker 2: of freaked me out. I took a couple of cabs,

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Speaker 2: Everybody had their their in car temperature at like eighty

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Speaker 2: five degrees and I could see me. Yeah, so I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to fall asleep. I'm going to do

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Speaker 2: it's nice outside?

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Speaker 3: Why why yeah?

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Speaker 2: Why why so warm? And you're driving overnight? Why why

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Speaker 3: Yeah? You can work up ump you okay, there, you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, I'm working up a lather, but

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Speaker 2: Right I flew out on Saturday morning, I was all

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Speaker 2: excited to thinking I'm seeing Lamar Jackson. Right all the

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Speaker 2: practice reports. Full participant. So that's how I'm now describing

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Speaker 2: my activity in anything anybody wants me to do. Full

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Speaker 2: participant means I may or may not show up, but

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Speaker 2: you're feeling good on the opportunity that maybe got to

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Speaker 2: do one hundred thousand dollars. How's that dissuade anybody from

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Speaker 2: playing games with the injury report? Greg, That's all I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a little fishy there, but he played Thursday night. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: That one in a minute. But yeah, last thing on

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Speaker 3: I think you know East Coast cities, I think, I mean,

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Speaker 3: this is a very general statement, but it's probably maybe

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Speaker 2: No, that's it. I think there's something to do with that.

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Speaker 2: I really was hoping you were going to go fully controversial,

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Speaker 2: because that I would have opened the phone lines and

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Speaker 2: we would have seen No, I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 3: No, No, I don't don't, don't. I don't do the bold

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Speaker 3: controversial stuff, you know.

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Speaker 2: I taking nonsense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't do thet takes stuff. No, no, no,

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Speaker 3: I get ripped enough on on social media, you know,

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Speaker 3: people telling me I don't know what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 2: So I get enough of that, you and me both,

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Speaker 2: My friend, great coach Selle where you to my Twitter?

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Speaker 2: Find me over at Swollen Dome. We're just getting warmed

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Speaker 2: up here at Fox Sports Radio alluded to it. So

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Speaker 2: I had the game last week. We watched New Huntley

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Speaker 2: those that forget two touchdown margin of victory for the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: but anytime you're settling for field goals, you're destined to lose.

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Speaker 2: And that's exactly what we saw. Things fall apart second half.

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Speaker 2: Now Thursday, the return of Lamar Jackson, and he got

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Speaker 2: a night in South Florida. There you have it. Andrews

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Speaker 2: you had two catches, two touchdowns, Lamar with four overall

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Speaker 2: And as the second half went on, you know, some

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Speaker 3: You know exactly. By the way, I just want to

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Speaker 3: acknowledge your pun on the fish and the dolphins. That

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Speaker 3: it was. It was cute.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I watched that tape already from Thursday

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Speaker 3: You know. So there's a lot of backs that gain

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Speaker 3: It wasn't a Lamar game the way we think of

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Speaker 2: No, it's it. He had the one one run for

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Speaker 2: I think you'd be judicious with it. There's no need

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, I mean a.

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Speaker 3: He saw the coverage, stopped his route and worked back

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, just watching this one start to flow,

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Speaker 2: He had some weird stuff early on. I don't want

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Speaker 3: Well, the way the way they have to play offense. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the way they have to play offense is tape related.

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Speaker 2: I tell you what, though, that to a throw to

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Speaker 3: No, I don't know. He was wide open. I mean

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Speaker 2: Wild, but that's it. He got there.

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Speaker 3: all timing, rhythm, hits, his back foot works between the numbers.

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Speaker 3: That's who he is. That's the problem with that is

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Speaker 3: that's the only way they can really play uh and

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Speaker 3: I think we have to talk about this Ravens defense. Absolutely,

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Speaker 2: have been rolling along. We talked a lot about Daniel

436
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Speaker 2: Jones and his efficiency first down throwing in Jonathan Jill. Yeah,

437
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Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor is already over one thousand total yards for

438
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Speaker 2: the season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah no, And I think you know you mentioned, And

440
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Speaker 3: that's one thing that stood out on film right from

441
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Speaker 3: the start of the season is just how good they've

442
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Speaker 3: been on first down. And first down is such a

443
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Speaker 3: critical down. Everybody talks about third down being the money down,

444
00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,800
Speaker 3: but if you can dominate on first down, and up

445
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,439
Speaker 3: to this point in the season, and this is what

446
00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 3: we have. We have what are they seven and one,

447
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,480
Speaker 3: so we have eight games, this is what we have.

448
00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,359
Speaker 3: They've been able to win on first down both just

449
00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:47,480
Speaker 3: with physicality because their O line is playing extremely well.

450
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Speaker 3: And I got to tell you watching Quenton Nelson get

451
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Speaker 3: out and pull, I think there's two offensive linemen that

452
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,359
Speaker 3: when you watch them get out and pull, you're just

453
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Speaker 3: blown away at how big they are and how they

454
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Speaker 3: can move like that, and that's Nelson and Trent Williams.

455
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Speaker 3: But just watching Nelson get out in front in the

456
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Speaker 3: run game and pull is remarkable. So they can win

457
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,399
Speaker 3: with physicality in the run game on first down, but

458
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,199
Speaker 3: they also win throwing the football on first down. And

459
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Speaker 3: this is where Shane Steichen has done such a good

460
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Speaker 3: job because Jones has far and away the most first

461
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Speaker 3: down passing yards of any quarterback in the league. They've

462
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Speaker 3: got the most yards on first down of any offense

463
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Speaker 3: in the league. And that is a stat that's very

464
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Speaker 3: rarely looked at, Mike, but it's it's in some ways

465
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Speaker 3: just as critical as third down.

466
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Speaker 2: Yeah, as we look at it going I mean only

467
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Speaker 2: nine sacks allowed this year, averaging eight point five yards

468
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Speaker 2: per attempt. So you're looking at the distribution over the

469
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Speaker 2: course of the year. I mean, your yardage leader is

470
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Speaker 2: Tyler Warren. He's got a forty six yard edge over

471
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Speaker 2: Michael Pittman Junior. And then you've got the big play

472
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Speaker 2: threat twenty one yards per reception of m Pierce Pierce. Yeah.

473
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Speaker 2: So I mean you go on down the line distributing

474
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Speaker 2: the football well, defense is played. Well. You know, some

475
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 2: want to hang a star on the schedule, and I say,

476
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 2: you can only beat who's on the schedule. Yeah, and

477
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 2: then we get some popcorn and we watch what comes next.

478
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Speaker 3: Look, I don't think anybody believe they're going to end

479
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 3: up sixteen in one. That's not the point. The point

480
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Speaker 3: is how they're playing right now. And I'm glad you

481
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Speaker 3: mentioned Alec Pierce because you know, one of the things

482
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Speaker 3: you always notice as you watch tape, and obviously I've

483
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Speaker 3: seen every game that the Colts have played this year,

484
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Speaker 3: is you start to see some subtle adjustments. And one

485
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Speaker 3: of the things that's really stood out is they're beginning

486
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Speaker 3: to use Pierce as what we call their boundary X,

487
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 3: their single receiver to the short side of the field.

488
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Speaker 3: That receiver tends to get a lot of one on

489
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Speaker 3: one matchups that you have to win, and you can

490
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Speaker 3: win multiple ways. There's different kinds of boundary X receivers,

491
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Speaker 3: but Pierce has that vertical ability. You know. It's crazy.

492
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Speaker 3: I think Pierce was in the same draft. Does memory

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Speaker 3: serve me correctly? We see in the same draft as

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Speaker 3: Chris Olave.

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Speaker 2: I think he was so twenty twenty two was Pierce's.

496
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that was a Lave too, and

497
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Speaker 3: I remember feeling that. And again up to this point

498
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Speaker 3: people probably think, oh, oh, you know, a Lave. And

499
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 3: unfortunately Alave has had some injuries the multiple concussions a

500
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 3: year ago. But I thought Pierce was a really good

501
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 3: prospect and not really that much far behind a Lave

502
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Speaker 3: as a prospect coming out of the University of Cincinnati.

503
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Speaker 3: And now it's interesting to me that they're starting to

504
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Speaker 3: use him at that boundary X because Pittman is much

505
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Speaker 3: more of kind of the movement receiver, and that's the

506
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Speaker 3: Z that's the receiver that lines up off the ball

507
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Speaker 3: or in the slot. You can move him, put him

508
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Speaker 3: in motion, and so I think they're finding out how

509
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 3: to best deploy their their receivers and change. Steichen's doing

510
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 3: a really good job with that.

511
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Speaker 2: Lave the eleventh picking that draft People went fifty third

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Speaker 2: overall to the c Yes in the second round. Thank

513
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Speaker 2: you Brianna for the the check, our executive producer.

514
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Speaker 3: I hope Brianna is not upset with me that I

515
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Speaker 3: like Pierce almost as much as a lave. But you

516
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Speaker 3: know that that was my thought when I watched both

517
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Speaker 3: on tape coming out.

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Speaker 2: I'm still hurt that you like Tyler Shock more than

519
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Speaker 2: Spencer Ratler. I'm still getting over that though. It's fine.

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Speaker 3: Well, I guess we're going to find out, Brian, aren't

521
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Speaker 3: we Yes, we are. We're going to find out.

522
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Speaker 2: A couple of short hours just down the road here,

523
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Speaker 2: the Rams hosting the Saints YEP is one of your

524
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Speaker 2: later games. So that's one that we'll all kind of

525
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Speaker 2: pay attention to.

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Speaker 3: Well, Brianna for sure, Brianna, for sure.

527
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Speaker 2: She's gonna be locked in. I think she'll be napping

528
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Speaker 2: by that. It's been a lot because remember the extra

529
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Speaker 2: hour they were on air, So the extra hour while

530
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Speaker 2: the Will the rest of us were in our golden slumbers.

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Speaker 3: It's easier to cry when you're sleeping, right, so that'll

532
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Speaker 3: be good.

533
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Speaker 2: Nobody can hear you scream in space and most of

534
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Speaker 2: the time you're not screaming in your sleep, we hope.

535
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Speaker 2: As we look at this though, I mean with the

536
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Speaker 2: Colts and what they've been able to do. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: Pierce was one of those guys that has appeared on

538
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Speaker 2: my what I call the ninja list, i e. He's

539
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Speaker 2: kind of hiding in the shadows for fantasy processes and

540
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Speaker 2: then all of a sudden you get the big explosive play.

541
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Speaker 2: Only eighteen catches on the year. He's had a little

542
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Speaker 2: bit of a health issue.

543
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Speaker 3: He missed a couple of games. Yeah, but a.

544
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Speaker 2: Guy that gives them that extra element and look, you

545
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 2: can pull the strings right now. Shane Stikeen's got to

546
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Speaker 2: be laughing as he sits with the riches that are

547
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Speaker 2: available to him, with that deep receiving corps and Jonathan

548
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Speaker 2: Taylor helping to run the machine.

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Speaker 3: No question, and it's been kind of a fun offense

550
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Speaker 3: to watch because Shane Stikeen does a really good job.

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Speaker 3: You know. You mentioned the fact that Jones has only

552
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Speaker 3: been sacked nine times, and the other thing that really

553
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Speaker 3: stands out when you watch their pass game, is how

554
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Speaker 3: decisive Jones has been getting rid of the football. He

555
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 3: rarely gets stuck in the pocket. He has somewhere to

556
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Speaker 3: go with the ball. You know, every play doesn't have

557
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Speaker 3: to be a big play. And I think that's one

558
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Speaker 3: thing you really have to get through to quarterbacks that

559
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Speaker 3: depending on down in distance, you know, sometimes there's nothing

560
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Speaker 3: wrong with taking a six yard completion. You know, that's okay.

561
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Speaker 3: And I think that Jones has you know, and he's

562
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Speaker 3: a very smart guy. He's understood that. And they just look,

563
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Speaker 3: they've been in the red zone. I don't have the

564
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Speaker 3: number in front of me, but they've been in the

565
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Speaker 3: red zone more than any team in the league by

566
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Speaker 3: a wide margin. Just think about that. They move the football,

567
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Speaker 3: they get into the red zone, and they score touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've talked about operational efficiency, right, not settling for goals,

569
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Speaker 2: taking care of your business. For Jones, obviously, the ability

570
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Speaker 2: to run. Folks will always remember him tripping over his

571
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Speaker 2: own feet on what would have been a great, great,

572
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Speaker 2: big run. But the aptitude and opportunities are certainly there.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to the other side of things when we

574
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Speaker 2: talk about the Pittsburgh Steelers. We talked about the WOLFL

575
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Speaker 2: back seven and the pass rush has been grossly inefficient

576
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Speaker 2: and inconsistent over the course of the year. Greg they

577
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 2: had three games where they had five sacks. Otherwise you

578
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,919
Speaker 2: got a lot of empty stat sheets, no calories to

579
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Speaker 2: be consumed there. And for Aaron Rodgers, they're not really

580
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Speaker 2: pushing the ball down the field seven point two yards

581
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Speaker 2: per attempt. But you're not looking at you know, big plays.

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Speaker 2: Dk Metcalf to this point twenty seven catches four hundred

583
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Speaker 2: and sixty one yards. He's got seventeen yards to catch.

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Speaker 2: But other than that, your next leading receiver's Friarmooth and

585
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Speaker 2: he did most of his damage in one game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and even Metcalf's he's not really been a consistent

587
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 3: factor in the Steelers offense. Uh and and their passing game,

588
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 3: and you nailed it with the statue mentioned, but they're

589
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 3: reflective of the tape, and the tape shows Mike that

590
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 3: this passing game is much more limited than expansive. It's condensed.

591
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 3: It really doesn't have any significant intermediate or vertical dimension.

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00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 3: They're they're a difficult offense to watch now. They run

593
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Speaker 3: the ball, and they've been running it reasonably well because

594
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 3: they play a lot of big people, they play a

595
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Speaker 3: lot of tight yeah, and they play with six offensive

596
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 3: linemen quite a bit. They're among the league leaders in

597
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 3: that area. So they run the ball and they're pretty

598
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 3: good at it. But there's really the pass game has

599
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 3: been very, very limited. And uh, the run game is

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00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 3: fine if you have a really good defense, but obviously

601
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 3: they don't, so those two things aren't really working together.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Jalen Warren's been much better, I think than we

603
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 2: would have answer spended, usually a guy that's known as

604
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 2: the pass catcher, but averaging four point five yards to carry,

605
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 2: he's done a good job there. He's their third leading

606
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 2: receiver to that point. But for Aaron Rodgers averaging about

607
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty yards per game, the explosives are

608
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 2: not there, and as we know in today's game, Greg, look,

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Speaker 2: I love a long protracted drive as much as anybody,

610
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Speaker 2: but the longer you try to pull that off, what happens,

611
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 2: false start holding battle and all of a sudden you're

612
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Speaker 2: settling for those fifty yard field walk.

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Speaker 3: They're just not getting explosive plays. You mentioned Warren. He's

614
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 3: got eighty three rushes this year. Okay, only nine of

615
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 3: them have been ten yards or more, and that's very,

616
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Speaker 3: very low relative to the rest of the league. So

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00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 3: you can talk about the run game, and while it

618
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 3: looks relatively consistent, there's still no explosive plays. And it's

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Speaker 3: just as you've mentioned, it's just so hard to play

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Speaker 3: that way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, playing you've got to play perfect football at that point,

622
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Speaker 2: right when the expected yard per play dips and you

623
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Speaker 2: don't have the explosives. You know, Roman Wilson shows up

624
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 2: on a box score and on the screen once in

625
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 2: a great while. Sure, John H. Smith, you know, the

626
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 2: other pass catching tight end. He's got twenty two catches,

627
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 2: but just for one hundred and thirty four yards. It's

628
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 2: a move the chains, which again, yes, it's better than

629
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: the alternative right grind and eventually maybe something breaks, but

630
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: they don't have that sledgehammer no, to make that happen.

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Speaker 3: They don't. And as we said, Metcalf, you know, even

632
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Speaker 3: though he's capable at any time, he's not really presented

633
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 3: in their offense. Is kind of a featured receiver, you know,

634
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 3: And I'm not suggesting that they should just give him,

635
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 3: you know, fifteen targets every game and just you know,

636
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 3: just feed and feed and feed him. But I think

637
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 3: he needs to be more involved in the pass game now.

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Speaker 2: One of the games that we mentioned obleikly, I mean,

639
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: Breon are our producer and her fandom of the New

640
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 2: Orleans Saints. Not that we want to give this a

641
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 2: bunch time, but we got a quick minute here. Tyler Schuck,

642
00:29:58,240 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: what are you expecting to see? What do you see

643
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 2: on tape coming out of the draft. I mean, obviously

644
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Speaker 2: I like to make fun of his age, but it's like,

645
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 2: I don't care if the guy could throw a football.

646
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Speaker 2: He could throw a football.

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Speaker 3: Oh I wish I was his age then that would

648
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Speaker 3: be great. Yeah. Yeah, I liked Tyler Shuck's tape coming

649
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Speaker 3: out of college a lot. I thought his tape was

650
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Speaker 3: the second best quarterback tape after cam Ward, So I

651
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 3: was not surprised where he was drafted. He's a very

652
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Speaker 3: mature guy because he's not a kid anymore. You know,

653
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Speaker 3: when he's played this year, everything's been quick, get rid

654
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Speaker 3: of the ball. Obviously, now that you that he's the starter,

655
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Speaker 3: it can't be just that. I'm very anxious. I truly

656
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 3: don't know what to expect. Obviously, they're not a very

657
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 3: good team overall. So you never know when you play

658
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 3: a young an inexperienced quarterback. He's not young an inexperienced quarterback,

659
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Speaker 3: what that ultimately means, just because there's so many factors

660
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 3: that go into how you then have to call the game,

661
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Speaker 3: what he's asked to do based on the flow of

662
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Speaker 3: the game. We don't know any of those things. I mean,

663
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Speaker 3: if he's forced to drop back forty times or forty

664
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Speaker 3: five times based on the flow of the game, he's

665
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Speaker 3: not likely to have a great game. And then people

666
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 3: might say, well, he's not very good, But that's not

667
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Speaker 3: the case at all. We wouldn't know that. So I'm

668
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Speaker 3: just anxious to see if they can hang with the Rams,

669
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Speaker 3: and we have a game in the third or fourth quarter,

670
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Speaker 3: we'll get a better reading on Chuck. But of course,

671
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Speaker 3: there's no definitive statement, Mike, we can make about Chuck

672
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Speaker 3: after one game, no matter what he does.

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Speaker 2: No, and we're looking at a game, you know, and

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Speaker 2: again to just kind of inform the narrative, fourteen and

675
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Speaker 2: a half point home favorites. We don't see lines like

676
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Speaker 2: that very often in the National Football League. The curious

677
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 2: thing swirling in the background and we haven't mentioned it

678
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: yet this morning, is that we are just a few

679
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 2: hours away from the trade deadline. We get yes days

680
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 2: and the Saints are one of those teams that some

681
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Speaker 2: reports from Ian Rapaport and others that Alvin Kamara Rashid

682
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 2: Shahed are expected to play. Both were on the injury report,

683
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 2: but both expected to play. But we're going to find

684
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Speaker 2: out from some of these teams towards the bottom pretty

685
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Speaker 2: fast what their motivations are well, because of those early sets.

686
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Speaker 3: Ultimately, team like that need they need players, so they

687
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 3: want draft picks. That's what they want. And look, I

688
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 3: don't know what Camaro would get. He's an older back.

689
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 3: He's not going to get a high pick, a second

690
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 3: or third round pick. Sah, he's not either. He's a

691
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 3: certain kind of player, he's good at it. But that's

692
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 3: what teams. I think the Titans are looking to do

693
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 3: the same thing. These teams are just looking for draft

694
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 3: picks because they need players. They're not one player away,

695
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 3: you know, they need players. So that's why teams do this.

696
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 3: And a lot of fans, I'm sure can't stand it

697
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 3: because they get rid of you know, quote unquote good players.

698
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 3: But it's not likely, and I loved Alvin Kamara. I

699
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 3: think he's been a great, great player, but it's not

700
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Speaker 3: likely if the Saints are to get good in the

701
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 3: next year or two, that's he's going to be there anyway,

702
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 3: just because of his age and his deployment and the

703
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 3: tread on his tire. So you're just looking for bodies now.

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Speaker 2: One hell of a career and a guy that you know,

705
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 2: he was part of that famous Trubisky Mahomes deal in

706
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Speaker 2: terms of how draft picks ended up getting confirmed around

707
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 2: and you know, folks can always talk about that quarterback thing.

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00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 2: I think it's a terrible argument that hindsight is always

709
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 2: twenty twelve, of course, but that lead that never never

710
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 2: let that get in a way of a good.

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Speaker 3: No, no, everybody. Hey, I always say, Mike, everybody's a

712
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 3: genius when you have access to the result.

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Speaker 2: That's it. And you know, I've got my Biff Tannin's

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00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 2: encyclopedia out of back to that.

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00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly, I'm always but yeah, everybody.

716
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 2: Mara there and and Fred Warner there obviously in San Francisco.

717
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: We'll talk about the forty nine ers a little bit

718
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 2: more next hour. Obviously he's on the shelf right now

719
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 2: emotional support from a skybox, but you know those were

720
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 2: parts of the trade. Camaro's had a fantastic career. I

721
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 2: know he expressed interest in wanting to finish his career

722
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: as a saint, but he's also a realist. I think

723
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 2: he'd like one more crack at, you know, winning before

724
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 2: he national. Yeah, so you know all that to say,

725
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 2: we could make for an interesting day as we watch

726
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: injury reports come down from a lot of teams Miami

727
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 2: that played on Thursday. They fired crew. I don't think

728
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 2: that's the end of what they do. The next forty

729
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 2: eight hours will be interesting there as well. But we'll

730
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Speaker 2: keep it all. I'll keep you apprized of all of

731
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Speaker 2: it as we roll on here. It's Fox Sports Radio. Hey,

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Speaker 2: of your screen. He's Greg gosel. I'm Mike Harmon. As

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Speaker 2: we continue here, it's Fox Football Sunday. Yeah, the game

741
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Speaker 2: of the day, another battle between Mahomes and Allen depending

742
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Speaker 2: on where you're at good and evil. Let's keep going

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Speaker 2: with the Halloween theme as we roll through. It's Fox

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Speaker 2: Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. Hey, welcome back and

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Speaker 2: Fox Football Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. A game that will

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Speaker 2: get started here in a minute, but it's a much

747
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 2: bigger conversation because we've got talk. We're talking favorites, we're

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00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 2: talking rising stars, et cetera. As we continue here, Fox

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Speaker 2: Football Sunday, Week nine, Mike Harmon, Greg co Cell with

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Speaker 2: you here at Swollen Dome, at Greg co Cell where

751
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 2: you find us and Greg. I mean, look, it doesn't

752
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 2: get any bigger than the latest iteration of Kansas City

753
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 2: and Buffalo. Every seems every year we get at least

754
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 2: one of these treats on the schedule. And first off,

755
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,720
Speaker 2: you know, rising from the ashes, always left for dead.

756
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 2: Let's hear a little Patrick Mahomes. Can we Mahomes in

757
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 2: the pocket pump faking twice?

758
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: Does it?

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00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 3: Lake Todd plus side Rice Angling touchdown Chansas City at

760
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 3: eighteen yard touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Pass, Welcome back Rashie Rice two games back, two big

762
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: important opportunities for fantasy owners, and certainly for that offense

763
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 2: to take on a whole other shape. Every year, it

764
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 2: seems the last couple Greg ever since they got rid

765
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 2: of Tyreek Hill, everybody like, oh, I don't know how

766
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 2: good they are because it doesn't look the same, it's

767
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: not the same explosiveness. But there they are right in

768
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 2: the mix. Left for dead rising again and Rashi Rice

769
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 2: bringing another elements of that game.

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Speaker 3: And you know what, I think Mahomes can play even

771
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 3: better than he's playing now. I really do. We know

772
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 3: he's as good as any quarterback creating positive plays both

773
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 3: when there are is not a lot there, and he

774
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 3: has the best spatial awareness of any quarterback in the game,

775
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 3: maybe as good as you've ever seen. And he's got

776
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Speaker 3: what one might call fighter pilot's vision when he's outside

777
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 3: the pocket. But I think that against the Commanders that

778
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 3: he missed some opportunities within the sche manics of the

779
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 3: passing game, but he can compensate for that, Mike with

780
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 3: his high level outside of structure ability. But I actually

781
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 3: think he can play even better, and we've seen him

782
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 3: play better in his career, but he's so difficult to

783
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 3: defend just because he has that feel for space and

784
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 3: his vision and that makes him really difficult. And the

785
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 3: reality is the Bills are scuffling a bit on defense.

786
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 3: They're missing some key players, although I do think that

787
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 3: get Milano and Bernard back this week if I read

788
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 3: that correctly. It's a shame Shaq Thompson is out because

789
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 3: he's played extremely well for them, but they don't really

790
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 3: have a big time pass rush. It'll be interesting. They've

791
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 3: played Mahomes pretty well. This is the tenth meeting in

792
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Speaker 3: the Mahomes Allen era, and the Bills for the most part,

793
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 3: have played them pretty well. But the games tend to

794
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 3: be high scoring, and there's a lot we could talk

795
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 3: about with the Bills offense. We'll get to that momentarily,

796
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Speaker 3: but jump in here.

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00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get the Bill's offense on the other side.

798
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 2: As we get into our two here. Greg will stick

799
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 2: with with just the Chiefs, but Checko not going to

800
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 2: be available. It's becomes Kareem Hunt and Bershard Smith. We've

801
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: talked about a bunch at Oliver. Obviously the biceps in injury.

802
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 2: He's out on the defensive side. So ye, they're still scrambling,

803
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 2: and I would imagine they'll be active here in these

804
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,240
Speaker 2: next forty eight hours, trying to find some help perhaps

805
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 2: on both sides of the ball before the Chiefs. When

806
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 2: we look at Patrick Mahomes, and here's the one to

807
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 2: one comparison, because this is always fun, two hundred and

808
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 2: eighty rushing yards for him this year, he's actually got

809
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 2: nineteen more rushing yards than Josh Allen. Take that. Things

810
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 2: you well, you'd never see.

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Speaker 3: Here, right, I mean early in the season, he was

812
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 3: running quite a bit, and again we don't know the

813
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 3: reason for that. People you know, always say offensive line

814
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 3: receivers aren't good. You know, there's all kinds of reasons.

815
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 3: We don't really know the answer to that question. You know.

816
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 3: I think Mahomes is a guy that if there's not

817
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 3: a lot of quick throws, I think he does look

818
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 3: to move and he's always been like that, and he's

819
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 3: so good at moving that, you know, we lose sight

820
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 3: of that. But I don't think that ultimately Andy Reid

821
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 3: would like him to play that way. So we'll see.

822
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 3: But but he's very very difficult to defend. We know that,

823
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 3: and the Bills don't really have a big time pass

824
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 3: for us, so we'll see how they choose to go

825
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 3: about or whether they spy him. A lot of teams

826
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 3: have been spying Mahomes, but of course that takes a

827
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 3: player out of coverage. There have been teams that have

828
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 3: spied Mahomes and the spy has been ineffective. There's other

829
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 3: times so the spy has been effective. We'll see what

830
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 3: Sean McDermot chooses to do with this iteration of Mahomes.

831
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 3: Every year is a different year.

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00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 2: No question. Fifty two and a half is the total

833
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 2: in this one. The Chiefs a narrow road favorite Kelsey,

834
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 2: you're leading receiver with thirty seven catches, four hundred and

835
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 2: seventy four yards. Hollywood Brown is next to thirty two,

836
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 2: and then you've got Taekwon Thornton who's been their big

837
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 2: play guy twenty two yards per reception for him. So

838
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 2: you add Rashi Rice back to the mix. It's a

839
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 2: bit of a pick your poison. But for the Chiefs,

840
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 2: it seems to me that they've now embodied a lot

841
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: of what those Tom Brady Patriots teams were. Look September,

842
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 2: we're learning we just need to be healthy and ready

843
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 2: to go for the second half of the year because

844
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 2: we're going to be.

845
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Speaker 3: In the mix, you know, and I've talked to people

846
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 3: who were with the Chiefs that I know well, and

847
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 3: you know, one thing about Mahomes is they say throughout

848
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 3: the course of the season they have to sort of

849
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 3: get him back on track, which for people who you

850
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 3: know and obviously Mahomes is great, people think, oh, you're crazy. Well,

851
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 3: that's what people in the building say, because he tends

852
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 3: to sort to lose his fundamental discipline at times. And

853
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 3: that's one of the reasons he's Mahomes because he can

854
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 3: do these things that other people can outside of structure.

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00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 2: That's it. You make up for it, and you always

856
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 2: think you can make that next throw. Two hundred and

857
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 2: sixty two yards per game, seventeen touchdown, four picks thus far.

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Speaker 2: Hour two coming up next, great coach selling me, Mike

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Speaker 2: Carbon let's go.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Greedys and welcome in hour two of the program. Jacked

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Speaker 2: up to be with you. I'bout have gotten an extra

863
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Speaker 2: half hour of sleep. Of course, I didn't go to

864
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Speaker 2: sleep for a long time after that thriller Game seven,

865
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Speaker 2: Dodgers over the Blue Jays in case you fell asleep, Yeah,

866
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 2: you missed the thriller as that one goes into extra

867
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 2: innings before going into the good night. That Yamabodo guy

868
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Speaker 2: kind of a big deal, and folks were protecting a

869
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Speaker 2: lot of tweets that mocked his signing a couple of

870
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Speaker 2: years ago. But here we are, we baseball season officially

871
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Speaker 2: gone and in the rearview mirrors parade on Monday here

872
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 2: in Last Angels, Maybe I'll go to a parade. Actually no,

873
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 2: I don't really like parades, but we do love the

874
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 2: parade of games we've got later on today. That was

875
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 2: a decent broadcasting transition. Mike Carbon Greg co sell with

876
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Speaker 2: you here for another hour of fun as we get

877
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Speaker 2: you ready for Week nine of the National Football League season. Greg,

878
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 2: I look at the slate and I've got about it's

879
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 2: a coin flip. Look, I celebrate all two seventy two,

880
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 2: but let's face it, some aerre greater than others. We've

881
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 2: got some really good and interesting games on this slate,

882
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 2: and there are some that it's like, all right, I

883
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 2: might have a few questions about, but they're probably going

884
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 2: to be on the small box television that has like

885
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:36,720
Speaker 2: four games together.

886
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you know, we finished by talking about

887
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 3: the Chiefs, so I think we just do have to

888
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 3: say something about the Bills.

889
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 2: No, we're coming back to them. That was just a

890
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 2: welcome back hour two. Yeah, aget, it just just formatics.

891
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, because this game, as most people know, when this

892
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 3: game is on the schedule, I think it's probably viewed

893
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 3: as the game of the of the year in the

894
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 3: regular season. So you know, they've played great games against

895
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Speaker 3: one another.

896
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no question about it. This is one where when

897
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 2: we look at the history, Josh Allen's had to be

898
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Speaker 2: superman oftentimes to where the passing attempts goes north of forty.

899
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Speaker 2: As we go, let's hit the rewind button in to

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Speaker 2: hear a little Josh Allen if we can at work.

901
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 2: Ali gonna work from the shotgun.

902
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Speaker 5: Here two receivers to the right, one to the left,

903
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 5: and now shavers in motion right to left.

904
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Speaker 2: Here's the snap back to pass.

905
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Speaker 1: Quick hitter.

906
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 5: Shakir spins away from the defender. He's up the sideline

907
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 5: thirty five thirty down to the twenty good to back

908
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 5: fifteen ten five touchdown.

909
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 4: Kalil Shakir Old reliable goes fifty four yards to the

910
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 4: end zone, touchdown.

911
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 2: Buffalo Old reliable, They're leading receiver. He's got thirty one

912
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 2: receptions thus far, averaging eleven point five per reception. But

913
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Speaker 2: a big play for Allen there, and he is the

914
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Speaker 2: go to guy when they need to move the sticks

915
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 2: or find a big play thus far.

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Speaker 3: Chris Brown the play by play there for the Brown

917
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Speaker 3: for Bills Radio Nice. This is going to be interesting

918
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Speaker 3: the Bills. You know, their offense has not been as

919
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Speaker 3: consistent this year. Their past game is not that detailed,

920
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 3: and in my view anyway, just based on tape, I

921
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 3: think that this is very much going to have to

922
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Speaker 3: be a Joe Brady game. The history of this series,

923
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Speaker 3: as you said, and you're correct, is that Josh Allen's

924
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 3: going to have to throw the ball. Yes, they're going

925
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 3: to try to run it, no question, that's foundationally how

926
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Speaker 3: they would really like their offense to start. But I

927
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Speaker 3: don't think, again just tape study, this is my view

928
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Speaker 3: based on if I was game planning this for the Bills,

929
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Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to win this game. Playing

930
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 3: a lot out of twenty one and twenty two personnel

931
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Speaker 3: with the fullback Gilliam on the field and That's what

932
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 3: they did a lot last week against the Panthers, where

933
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Speaker 3: obviously they had big rushing numbers and Cook grand for

934
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Speaker 3: two sixteen. Now I'm not suggesting that you ignore Cook,

935
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Speaker 3: and obviously they would like him to be a big

936
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Speaker 3: factor in the game, and he can break one any time, Mike,

937
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 3: as you know. But I think this has to be

938
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Speaker 3: more of a pass game, and so it's incumbent. Two

939
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 3: things have to happen. Joe Brady has to really design

940
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 3: some concepts that define the reeds and the throws for

941
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Speaker 3: Josh Allen quickly. That's what good coordinators do in the

942
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Speaker 3: pass game. And I will say this about Josh Allen,

943
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 3: and there's no question he's a great football player, but

944
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks, he's been playing a little fast.

945
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 3: He's been leaving the pocket prematurely when there's been no pressure.

946
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Speaker 3: He's turning too many plays into random improvisations with little

947
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 3: calculation and control. And I think he needs to settle

948
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 3: down and let the pass game, which ideally is going

949
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 3: to present him with some things, let it work for him.

950
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Speaker 3: Let him go through the process and deliver the football.

951
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 3: Now they've done that well when they played the Chiefs,

952
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 3: by the way, So that's something we've seen them do

953
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 3: and they did this very well for most of last season.

954
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Speaker 3: But he's going to need to do that in today's game.

955
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 2: It's gonna be curious to watch, right because you've got

956
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 2: a number two defense, scoring defense in the game in

957
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 2: Kansas City, yep. As to how they get after it.

958
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 2: And look, you're not beating this team settling for field goals.

959
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 2: We've done established that as a general rule, but certainly

960
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 2: against this team that averages nearly twenty seven points the

961
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 2: game themselves. But for Josh Allen and company, it just

962
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 2: comes back to it. And I like Shakira as a receiver,

963
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 2: Coleman pops up on occasion, and Kincaid when he's in

964
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 2: the lineup has been a difference maker greg But overall,

965
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Speaker 2: you don't have that number one. And again it's maybe

966
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:38,959
Speaker 2: I harp on it too much, but when you're trying

967
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 2: to compete and get past the top level, that go

968
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 2: to hey, I can throw it up and they're gonna

969
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 2: win the fifty to fifty ball.

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00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 3: But that's not a factor against zone. That's a factor

971
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Speaker 3: against man. And there's no question the Chiefs play a

972
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 3: good amount of man, they will spy. This is something

973
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 3: they will do. They c speG Nola does believe in that.

974
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 3: So you might see them play man and spy. Because

975
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 3: there's no question that the Bills receivers are not great

976
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 3: winning one on one. They don't have those guys. But again,

977
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 3: zone and the Bill and the Chiefs have shown in

978
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 3: this series while Steve Spagnola has been the DC that

979
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 3: they play about the same percentage of man and zone.

980
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 3: So when it's zone, that's where the concepts and the

981
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 3: combinations have to win. And that's where you have to

982
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 3: present Josh Allen with clean throws. But Steve Spagnolo, I

983
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 3: guarantee will show him pressure. Now again that doesn't mean

984
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 3: he's going to start rushing five and six, but the

985
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 3: way Josh is playing now, Steve Spagnola's going to show

986
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 3: him pressure and see if he's going to break down.

987
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 3: Because those plays that Alan can make that are absolutely special,

988
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 3: just like Mahomes, he hasn't made them as much this season.

989
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 2: See if you can't get him off schedule a little bit,

990
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 2: as you said, play it a bit faster. We've seen

991
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 2: the run to pass percentage Bill's highest in the league

992
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 2: that way, and yeab Cook has obviously been phenomenal in

993
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 2: several of these games. Last week with his two hundred

994
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 2: and sixteen but four one hundred yard games on the

995
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: year already, he averages six yards of pop as well.

996
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 2: The big explosive play could be no question, just the

997
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 2: next one, right. I think of the the backs growing

998
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 2: up that you'd watch, you know, default to Barry Sanders

999
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 2: because it was always fun to watch the chess match

1000
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 2: of when he was going to find his angle, right,

1001
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 2: He's like, for the lack of a better pop culture reference,

1002
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,760
Speaker 2: in the original Jurassic Park where the raptors are testing

1003
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 2: the fences for weaknesses. That was how I always felt

1004
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 2: Barry Sanders was that eventually he was going to break

1005
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 2: through for the seventy five yard score.

1006
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I'm not a good, you know, prognosticator

1007
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 3: so to speak, but I'd be surprised if the Bills

1008
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 3: control the pace and tempo of the game by running

1009
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 3: the football. Maybe they will, but that would surprise me absolutely.

1010
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 2: And he's and for all the rushing attempts, right, they

1011
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 2: have an overutilized Cook. I mean, he got paid and

1012
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 2: all that. Fine, Normally it's the how do we work

1013
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 2: this and he doesn't have one of those thirty carry games.

1014
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 2: I don't suspect this is one. I agree with you

1015
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 2: one hundred percent. I think it's going to be Josh

1016
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 2: Allen needing to make big plays. So we'll see which

1017
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 2: of these receivers steps up downfield. Now, another game that

1018
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 2: is really interesting to me as we look at this

1019
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 2: slate greg is the Houston Houston game against Denver. Houston

1020
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 2: a slight favorite at home. Forty and a half is

1021
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 2: the total in this one. But CJ. Stroud a guy

1022
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 2: much moreligned that offensive line. We've talked about a lot,

1023
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 2: but boy, this is a game where the defenses are

1024
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 2: really going to be focused.

1025
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 3: Here.

1026
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 2: No Patrick Certan for Denver, which may afford some opportunities

1027
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 2: for Nico Collins company downfield.

1028
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it well could. Now. Stroud probably played his best

1029
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 3: game in quite a while last week against a forty

1030
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 3: nine or defense that does not truly have a good

1031
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,720
Speaker 3: pass rusher in their four man d Lion and Robert

1032
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:02,919
Speaker 3: Salad really increased his blitz percentage against Stroud last week

1033
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 3: and it didn't really work out. The secondary didn't really

1034
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,479
Speaker 3: hold up particularly well. They played a lot of off

1035
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,720
Speaker 3: coverage when they blitzed, which gave Stroud some clean quick looks.

1036
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:16,720
Speaker 3: But he played really really well last week. Different animal

1037
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 3: this week. I mean, you're facing a Broncos defense, a

1038
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 3: defensive front that can beat you one on one. The

1039
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 3: term we often use is they gap you out, meaning

1040
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 3: they show a lot of five man fronts. So the

1041
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 3: protection is what we call five to zero protection, meaning

1042
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 3: it's five on five. It's man to man one on

1043
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 3: one protection. But Vance Joseph's been doing this a long

1044
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 3: time and he's also very very good with his selective

1045
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 3: pressure concepts. And this O line for the Texans is

1046
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 3: not great and you will see that. So the question

1047
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 3: is how do they handle Nico Collins? Because Nico Collins

1048
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,439
Speaker 3: is that boundary X, that single receiver who can win

1049
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 3: one on one against pretty much everybody, and without certain

1050
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 3: out there, then that becomes potentially an issue.

1051
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 2: Now, let's here Gheit the rewind button to hear one

1052
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 2: of the other receivers. Want to see what you think

1053
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 2: about his potential to make a difference today.

1054
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 5: Third and seven at the San Francisco thirty. Here's pressure

1055
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 5: CJ over the middle caught fifty ten five hit the

1056
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 5: episode Rock and Roll Touchdown Houston, who is on a

1057
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 5: play to Exavier hotshon cent who X.

1058
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 2: Marks the spot. There you go, a great call on

1059
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 2: the Texans Radio network. Xavier Hutchinson, third year man out

1060
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 2: of Iowa State, our guy Iowa Sam is now on

1061
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 2: the ones into our technical producer. He goes Iowa State guy.

1062
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 2: So little celebration there, but expecting him, Higgins and somebody

1063
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 2: to step up alongside Nico Collins. Perhaps Hutchinson can become

1064
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 2: that guy.

1065
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 3: Well, they've got three Iowa State guys, you know, and

1066
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 3: Noel Yeah, no, obviously Collins is a big time player,

1067
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 3: went healthy. That was a big time play by Stroud

1068
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 3: actually because he had Michel Williams right in his face.

1069
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 3: That's the kind of play he made as a rookie

1070
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 3: two years ago when many of us thought, you know,

1071
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 3: he'd be on his way to being a top five

1072
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 3: or six quarterback in the league. But they do have receivers. Look,

1073
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 3: they've drafted guys. Higgins was a second round pick, and

1074
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 3: I really like Higgins coming out of Iowa State, and

1075
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 3: he's he caught a touchdown last week as well. But

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00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 3: I think this is going to be more on Stroud

1077
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 3: and his ability to make throws from squeezed pockets, which

1078
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 3: is something that he's shown he can do. Hasn't done

1079
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 3: as well this year until last week, and even last

1080
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 3: year didn't do it as well. But the key question

1081
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:41,760
Speaker 3: here is how does Sir Tan's absence impact how vance

1082
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,439
Speaker 3: Joseph will play on the back end because they do

1083
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 3: play a lot of man to man coverage cover one.

1084
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 3: Will that change with Sir Tan out? Will he go

1085
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 3: to Morizone?

1086
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 2: Conversely, we look at the Houston defense, one of the

1087
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 2: top rated yes going in the game. They're giving up

1088
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 2: fourteen point seven points per game. That's the best in

1089
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 2: the NASH Football League. Denver coming in at number five,

1090
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 2: just a shade underneath nineteen points per game. But we've

1091
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 2: seen the inconsistencies in the in the Denver game overall. Now,

1092
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 2: the last two weeks have been huge output outpouring of points.

1093
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 2: Go back to that crazy game against the Giants and

1094
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 2: then obviously I think the four of us and seven

1095
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 2: of our friends could score a couple of points against

1096
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 2: Dallas if we call the right play golf. Now, well,

1097
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 2: they're all still professionals, and I love that all right

1098
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 2: right now now we are we you know it wouldn't be,

1099
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 2: you know, a little tongue in cheek.

1100
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 3: They all have mothers. Now, come on now.

1101
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 2: I'm mom. Celebrate the moms. That's right, I'll get an

1102
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 2: angry email at swollen dumb. I'll take it as we

1103
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 2: roll through. But for that Houston defense as well, they

1104
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 2: take away the perimeter very well. How does bow Nix

1105
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 2: navigate this one?

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00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 3: Yeah? This is also a really tough matchup because you know,

1107
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 3: they're another team that can win one on one with

1108
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 3: their pass rush. I mean, Will Anderson is as good

1109
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 3: as there is in the league at we call speed

1110
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 3: to power, where he just generates some some velocity off

1111
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 3: the snap and can just get inside of offensive tackles.

1112
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 3: And he'll be going up against Mike mcglinchy at right tackle.

1113
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 3: McGlinchey at times struggles in one on one pass pro.

1114
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 3: That'll be a very interesting matchup to watch. This is

1115
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 3: a really good defense. Now they play Jalen Petrie as

1116
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 3: essentially their their slot, their nickel corner, and he's an

1117
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 3: interesting player. And I guess the way there's Demico Ryans

1118
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 3: has to know. Of course he knows, he knows more

1119
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 3: than I do about his defense, certainly, but you know,

1120
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 3: Petrie is a guy that I always felt you could attack,

1121
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 3: but he never really gets exposed in their coverage schemes,

1122
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 3: and they do play some man. They're not a heavy,

1123
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 3: heavy man defense, but they will play man, and I've

1124
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 3: always felt you could go after Petrie, but it just

1125
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 3: doesn't seem to work out that way within the context

1126
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 3: of their defense. But Bone Nicks has sort of had

1127
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 3: an uneven year, but he's been better recently. But of course,

1128
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 3: the last game was against Dalla, and as you said,

1129
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,240
Speaker 3: you know a lot of people have done well against Dallas,

1130
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 3: so I'm not sure how much we take away from

1131
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 3: that game, you know, tactically, but Nicks is incrementally improved

1132
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 3: this year. And surprisingly they've run the ball very, very well. JK.

1133
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,760
Speaker 3: Dobbins is among the league leaders in rushing by the way.

1134
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, averaging five point three yards per carry. He's been fantastic.

1135
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 2: Now you got R. J. Harvey smelling him, and he's

1136
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 2: leaking out as a receiver out of the backfield. Fantasy

1137
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 2: owners are really salty though, Greg he's vulturing all the

1138
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 2: touchdown opportunities from Dobbins. But look, that's not Sean Payton's concerned.

1139
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 3: No, he's probably not concerned about fans, not so much ball, but.

1140
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 2: He might send you a nice note and thank you

1141
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 2: for your interest.

1142
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 3: But Dobbins, you know Dobbins is he's third in the

1143
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 3: league in rushing. And the other thing too, is they're

1144
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 3: getting big plays in the run game. He's got the

1145
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 3: second most ten plus yard rushes in the league. So

1146
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 3: they're running the ball, you know, not just for a

1147
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 3: sustaining element, which they are, but they're also getting some

1148
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 3: big plays out of their run game. So this is

1149
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 3: going to be a fascinating matchup on that side of

1150
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 3: the ball.

1151
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 2: One of those guys I celebrate for the fact that

1152
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 2: he just keeps battling, right how many season ending injuries

1153
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 2: every time we see a flash and then he's gone.

1154
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 2: So hopefully he's able to sustain this success and keep

1155
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 2: it going, because it's been fun to watch as this

1156
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:22,280
Speaker 2: Denver offense tries to take its next step forward. Franklin

1157
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,879
Speaker 2: Mims Ingram the next receivers on the list for bo Nicks,

1158
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 2: completing about sixty three percent of his pass attempts. This

1159
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 2: is one of the games to watch. I know it.

1160
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 2: The forty point five over under number might scare some

1161
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 2: people away. It's okay to watch defensive football every now

1162
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,720
Speaker 2: and again, folks. It doesn't all have to be highlight reel.

1163
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 2: Like Adam Silver says, his NBA is right.

1164
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 3: Right now, and this is one of those games. It's again,

1165
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 3: you never know how games play out because you can

1166
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 3: never count on turnovers. You don't know. But if you

1167
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 3: just look at this game, quote unquote, on paper, this

1168
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 3: doesn't seem like it's going to be a thirty five

1169
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 3: to thirty game.

1170
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 2: Big opportunity for Houston though, as we know, the division

1171
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 2: is still there to be had in the second half

1172
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 2: of this season, so we'll keep an eye on that.

1173
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 2: At Greg Cosell, where you find him forty six years

1174
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 2: NFL film the NFL Matchup Show, and he joins our

1175
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 2: Colin Cowherd on the network one o'clock Eastern time every

1176
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 2: Thursday afternoon. You want to dial that up fifteen to

1177
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 2: twenty minutes of video accompaniment as he breaks down film

1178
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 2: as only he can. And we're blessed to get him

1179
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 2: every week on Sundays for two hours, chopping up over

1180
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 2: all of these good things. I like that speed, you know,

1181
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 2: power to speed or speed to power power, speed to

1182
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 2: power because that reminds me of the old nineteen sixty

1183
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 2: six Batman series Atomic Battery, to Power, Turbine, to speed Go.

1184
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 3: Wait, you're talking about the one with Adam West.

1185
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, that one.

1186
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 3: The one with where they put up Bam wham and

1187
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 3: all that stuff.

1188
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 2: You got it?

1189
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I love that. I love you.

1190
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 2: That's that's my wheelhouse right there. It's all Batman, pure West,

1191
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 2: Adam West. That was great show legend. I wish they

1192
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:58,919
Speaker 2: could have had that go on for many many years.

1193
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 2: And I love the tails that had come out. They

1194
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 2: did a museum thing here at one of the things

1195
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 2: in Hollywood where they assembled several thousand pieces of memorabilia.

1196
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 2: And you think Kiss sold a lot of stuff with

1197
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 2: their logo on it. No, Batman did. Okay, Oh I'm

1198
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 2: sure Batman matchboks and lighters and stuff. They were everywhere.

1199
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 2: So it's all good things, all right. I had Greg

1200
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 2: gozet where you find and find me over at Swollen

1201
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 2: Do and we continue our slate lookover of the National

1202
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 2: Football League Week nine, Big Monday Night Affair, Who's quarterbacking?

1203
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 2: What's going on there? And can Dallas make a run?

1204
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 2: Question Mark? We'll talk about it next here on Fox.

1205
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1206
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1207
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1209
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1210
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 2: your fantasy lineups week nine of your National Football League season.

1211
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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio, Fox Football Sunday, Mike

1212
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 2: Carbon alongside Greg CoSeal. Thanks for being with us, hanging

1213
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 2: out with us a little bit wherever you are on

1214
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 2: a Sunday morning, getting after it. Maybe the first cup

1215
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 2: of coffee, reading the newspaper because people still do that.

1216
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 2: Maybe it's just the online version, whatever the case may be.

1217
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Speaker 2: Walking the Dog two Front Services. Thanks for being part

1218
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,120
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1219
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1220
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:29,520
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1221
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,880
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1222
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 2: Let us know where you're listening from. We'd like to

1223
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 2: put the little virtual pins on the map as we

1224
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 2: go through. Greg Monday Night Football another one of these questions.

1225
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 2: We talked about it a little bit earlier with the

1226
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson situation of a week ago looks like Arizona

1227
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 2: maybe in the gamesmanship at the quarterback position. Jacoby Burssett

1228
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,919
Speaker 2: slash Kyler Murray. Now we're here, we're probably gonna see

1229
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 2: a little bit of Kyler Murray. Fifty three and a

1230
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 2: half is the total. This one explosive all around, because

1231
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,439
Speaker 2: we've watched this Dallas team for better for we're still

1232
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 2: looking for a pass rusher or two. Jerry Jones in

1233
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 2: between business meetings where he got criticized for talking well,

1234
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 2: talking about the other business that he operates, that he

1235
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 2: gets after it. But for Dak Prescott in that offense,

1236
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 2: it's just been humming on a whole other level all

1237
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 2: season long.

1238
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 3: Oh for sure. I mean, you know, at the bottom line, though,

1239
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 3: it's so hard to play that way when you know

1240
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 3: you have to score thirty every week, and this offense

1241
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 3: has played very, very well. The run game element has

1242
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 3: been something that was probably unexpected when the season started.

1243
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 3: No one knew exactly where Deavonte Williams was in his career,

1244
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 3: but he's another guy that's among the league leaders in

1245
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 3: rushing yardage, and he has some real big boy runs.

1246
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 3: I mean, he's a powerful man and he's done very well.

1247
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 3: But they've got the perfect situation with their receiving Cort.

1248
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 3: They've got the dimensions you want. You know, every team

1249
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 3: when you talk about receiving, you want to mention what

1250
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 3: I mean by that is you want someone who can

1251
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 3: win vertically. You want to be able to work the

1252
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 3: intermediate areas, you want the short game. You want all

1253
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 3: dimensions to your pass game. Picking certainly gives you a

1254
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 3: vertical dimension. He is a quintessential boundary X and we've

1255
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 3: talked about that how important that is. There's many coaches

1256
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 3: who believe you can't really have a complete pass game

1257
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 3: and unless you have a true boundary X receiver, and

1258
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 3: then that allows CJ. Cde Lamb to be kind of

1259
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 3: what he's best at, which is a movement guy. You

1260
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 3: get him lining up in multiple locations within your formation,

1261
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 3: different splits, put him in motion, gets free access. He

1262
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 3: can work all levels as well. He's not a true burner,

1263
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 3: but he's such a good route runner that he can

1264
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 3: win vertically just because he knows how to win and

1265
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 3: create separation. So they really have and they've got a

1266
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 3: very good tight end who's not talked about a lot

1267
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 3: in Ferguson. So they've got every dimension you want in

1268
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 3: the pass game.

1269
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 2: Ferguson a guy that they went and they re uped

1270
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 2: at big money. That was Yeah, he got a lot

1271
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 2: of incoming because of what end up transpiring with Michael

1272
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,959
Speaker 2: Harsons going. He paid this tight end on. No, he's

1273
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 2: actually kind of important to both ends of what they

1274
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 2: want to do offensively in the run game and certainly

1275
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 2: as a pass catcher. One of their leaders over the

1276
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 2: course of the year. Greg.

1277
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Speaker 3: So, yeah, and just one quick point on the other side,

1278
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 3: I know Arizona's probably not super compelling right now. And

1279
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 3: what you said, is Kyler Murray do to play? I

1280
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 3: thought he was out for him.

1281
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 2: No, they said that Brissette's gonna start, Oh okay, but

1282
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 2: that Murray will will show up, which gets us send

1283
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 2: too some of those you know, weasel words and handwringing

1284
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Speaker 2: about how we're doing injury reports and whatever else and everything.

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Speaker 3: But what I was going to say is this, And

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Speaker 3: again I'm not in the building. I don't know what

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Speaker 3: they do on a week two week basis, so and

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Speaker 3: people who listen to me know I do not rip coaches.

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Speaker 3: I just don't do that. I have too much respect.

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Speaker 3: I've been fortunate in my career to be in meetings

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Speaker 3: with you know all that, so I don't I don't

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Speaker 3: get into that because I know what they do and

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Speaker 3: and now hard they work. But to me, and and

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Speaker 3: I think their staff would probably agree, there's something just

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01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 3: not right about the fact that in seven games Marvin

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01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 3: Harrison has thirty nine targets that it just seems and

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying he needs, you know, eighty targets, That's

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01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 3: not my point, but I think Marvin Harrison has to

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Speaker 3: be a little more featured, however you want to go

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Speaker 3: about doing that. Like I said, I'm not there designing

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Speaker 3: their offense, but that's not enough targets.

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Speaker 2: He has appeared in seven games this year at this point,

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01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 2: by way of contrast, just for giggles, you know, because

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Speaker 2: it's something I track as I do.

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Speaker 3: You like the giggle I do? Yeh.

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01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm like the pills very dope boy. If

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Speaker 2: you poke me in the belly, you're gonna get a

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Speaker 2: heat heat.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not saying that should have one hundred

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Speaker 3: targets like Jamar Chase, No exactly.

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Speaker 2: That's that's your upper end, right, You're already at one hundred. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and you look at the leaders. You know, Christian McCaffrey

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Speaker 2: out of the backfields, third in the National Football League

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Speaker 2: for the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 3: He's got seventy three targets. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, But.

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Speaker 2: The fact that we're looking at your guy that's the

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Speaker 2: number one, and look, he struggled a little bit. He's

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Speaker 2: obviously missed a little bit. I'm with the concussion. But

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Speaker 2: he's a guy that you drafted to be a difference maker.

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Speaker 2: You got to give him a chance to be a

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Speaker 2: difference maker.

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Speaker 3: I mean, and I tell you on film, I've seen

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Speaker 3: him run some routes that are just special. So it's

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Speaker 3: you know, again, we're not there, Mike. So I always

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Speaker 3: find it hard to discuss this because you know, I'm

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Speaker 3: very fortunate in my career to have conversations with coaches, sure,

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Speaker 3: and the things that I learned from those conversations, given

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Speaker 3: that I'm a tape junkie and I literally work seventy

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Speaker 3: five hours a week watching tape, and I've done that

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Speaker 3: for years and years and years, you know, NFL tape,

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01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 3: college tape. And then the things that I'm told by

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Speaker 3: coaches who I know well and it just blows me

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Speaker 3: away the stuff that even someone like myself who grinds

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01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 3: on tape can't possibly know. And I learned so much.

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Speaker 3: So you know, again, I don't know the reason, but

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Speaker 3: that just doesn't seem like the right number. Wouldn't you agree?

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Speaker 2: I would agree right now? You got one double digit.

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01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 2: Otherwise his season high is six, which has been established

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Speaker 2: three times.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 2: So you know a guy that is averaging nearly seventeen

1342
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 2: yards per catch, and I know timing, and you know

1343
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 2: Murray being hurt and he and Harrison missing some time.

1344
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 2: There's certainly some things. Losing Connor early was a big

1345
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 2: deal for them and what they wanted to do offensively.

1346
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:20,439
Speaker 2: But moving forward, you know, you got to the old

1347
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 2: make get get the ball in the hands of your playmakers.

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01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 2: However that has to happen. So we'll see what they

1349
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 2: do against a defense that, as we say, to be kind,

1350
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Speaker 2: has been generous. Yes, there you go at Greg Cosell

1351
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:33,919
Speaker 2: where you by Greg. Find me over at Swallowdum. Let's

1352
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 2: take a turn over to the news desk with our guy,

1353
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 2: my tag team partner, the I Watch a Flex Podcast.

1354
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 2: You'll hear him later on on end Zone Radio. Here

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01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. It's Stan byer Hi Dan Fellows.

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Speaker 6: We start out with the World Series last night, games

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01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 6: to seven in Toronto, as the Dodgers were able to

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Speaker 6: outlast the Blue Jays in eleven innings. If you missed it,

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Speaker 6: Yoshinobu Yamamoto the World Series MVP, getting three of the

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Speaker 6: four wins that the Dodgers needed to win. Back to

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Speaker 6: back time olds for LA three and six years, ninth

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Speaker 6: world title as an organization. Miguel Rojas with the solo

1363
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 6: home run of the ninth to tie it. Will smith

1364
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 6: solo shot in the eleventh won it for the Dodgers again,

1365
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 6: their World Series champs, beating the Blue Jays five to four.

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Speaker 6: Now let's get to the Sunday action. Begos quarterback Joe

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01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 6: Flacco expected to start against the Bears today despite being

1368
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 6: questionable with his shoulder injury. The Saints will have running

1369
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 6: back Alvin Kamara and wide receiver Rashi shi Heed for

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01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 6: Rams well. The Seahawks are likely without wide receiver Cooper

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01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 6: cup Tonight not expected to play against the Commanders after

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01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 6: popping up on the injury report this week.

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01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 3: Big NFC North showed down in Detroit.

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01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 6: JJ McCarthy returns, not only that he's going to have

1375
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 6: some protection both Vikings offensive tackles. According to ESPN, that's

1376
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 6: Brian O'Neil and Christian Derretsaw are expected to play in

1377
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 6: today's game in Motown. And a trade happened yesterday, with

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01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 6: the trade dun Night coming up Tuesday, the Eagles and

1379
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 6: Ravens made a swamp as Philadelphia acquired corner Jaire Alexander

1380
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Speaker 6: along with a swamp of late round picks. Finally, guys,

1381
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 6: if you missed the last time in the NBA, Hawks

1382
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 6: gard Trey Young been ruled out at least four weeks

1383
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 6: because of a sprain mcl in his knee.

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01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 3: Back to you.

1385
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 2: Guys, Thanks Dan at Dan Byron Fox is where you

1386
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 2: find him on Twitter, you hear him, It's part of

1387
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 2: the Gottlieb Show and Cavino and Rich during the week

1388
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 2: and again end Zone Radio a little later this afternoon.

1389
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 2: Keep it locked on Fox Sports Radio for all the

1390
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 2: latest couple of big injury news and notes that Dan

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01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 2: gave us. There obviously the big huge note coming out

1392
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 2: of Minnesota where you get your tackles. But we'll talk

1393
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 2: about JJ McCarthy in a minute. As we roll through

1394
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 2: Mike Carmon, Greg co Sell with you here Fox Football Sunday.

1395
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 2: I wanted to stay in division. Now they're a heavy favorite,

1396
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 2: But be remiss if I didn't give a little bit

1397
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 2: of well love to a certain quarterback who's having his

1398
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 2: way with opposing defenses and utilizing the tight end position

1399
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 2: on a whole other way. Let's talk Packers and Jordan

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01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 2: Love if we can.

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01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 3: Well for sure, I mean, I love love. There you go,

1402
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 3: you love love. I love the way he's been played

1403
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 3: playing and the way he's grown in the position. Because

1404
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 3: you know, we've discussed this, I think a lot, but

1405
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 3: a lot of people probably lose sight of the fact

1406
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 3: that he's only it's only his third year starting. And

1407
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 3: I think what you I really notice on tape he

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01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 3: always had a tendency because he's so gifted. He's got

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01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 3: a big arm, he's got an aggressive mindset. There always

1410
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 3: been some throws in games that you go, that's a

1411
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 3: little reckless, that's a little undisciplined. You know, why is

1412
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 3: he doing that well? And again I'm not saying he'll

1413
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 3: never do that again. You know that's that's a silly

1414
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 3: thing to say, But I think what you're seeing now,

1415
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 3: and I think Matt Laflor is really helping him with it.

1416
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 3: Is he's playing with great awareness. He's seeing the field

1417
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 3: with clarity. He's taking the throws that are there. He's

1418
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 3: not chasing throws, and that's a term you hear from

1419
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 3: coaches a lot. He's not chasing throws. He's playing with

1420
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 3: much more calculation and control. Mike, and I think he's

1421
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 3: just growing into the position as a third year starter,

1422
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 3: you know. And this is another point that needs to

1423
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Speaker 3: be made, and I think sometimes owners maybe lose sight

1424
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Speaker 3: of this. In football, he's with the same coach, He's

1425
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 3: growing with the system. I mean, I've talked to coaches

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01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 3: all through the years, and one thing I hear from

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01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 3: offensive coaches, veteran offensive coaches, is it takes a good

1428
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 3: three years in the same system for a quarterback to

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01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 3: really understand it and to be able to execute it

1430
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 3: at a higher level. And that is that's a really

1431
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:22,680
Speaker 3: important point when speaking about Jordan Love continuity.

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Speaker 2: Certainly they are one of the benchmarks across the NFL.

1433
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:31,679
Speaker 2: Jealous being a Bears Bears guy, watching coaches, coordinators, yep,

1434
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 2: position coaches guys who's disappeared. I'm still looking for Alan

1435
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:37,679
Speaker 2: Williams from last year that in the running Back Coach,

1436
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 2: You guys have disappeared in season and we're never heard

1437
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 2: from again. But let's hit the rewind button on Jordan

1438
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 2: Love for a second, show a little love to what

1439
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 2: he did against Steelers. Just snap the love.

1440
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 3: Rush On throws the Mets, cutting to the five to

1441
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 3: the ends off better talker clap having a life Wow

1442
01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 3: touchdown Green Bay.

1443
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 5: They beach Chuck Clark on a Cruxer twenty four yard

1444
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 5: touchdown reception.

1445
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:09,639
Speaker 2: The voice of Wayne Larovie, who I did Bears games

1446
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 2: before heading to Greenville.

1447
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:12,639
Speaker 3: Sounds like Dwayne Laravie has been doing it for about

1448
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 3: one hundred years.

1449
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:15,560
Speaker 3: It is one of the best, though, one of the best.

1451
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 2: One of my favorites growing up, no question about it.

1452
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 2: Voices of the game that stay with you throughout the years.

1453
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,480
Speaker 2: One of the great things I love about local broadcasts.

1454
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:29,480
Speaker 2: I still listen in to me, there's no better expression

1455
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 2: of team angst and positivity and sometimes unwarranted hatred. Then

1456
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 2: when you get a couple of X players together. I

1457
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 2: listened to Hampton and Obradovich after Bears games. They can

1458
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 2: win by twenty and you still think they got absolutely decimated. Yeah, yeah,

1459
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 2: there's got to be a note being passed by the

1460
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 2: producer reminding people.

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Speaker 3: That they won exactly exactly.

1462
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 2: But they're so fired up. It's the best.

1463
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:55,680
Speaker 3: Well one on the quick point because you just heard

1464
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 3: Tucker Craft is obviously having a great season, but the

1465
01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:01,520
Speaker 3: Packers have been one of the higher percentage twelve personnel offenses,

1466
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 3: meaning they play with two tight ends. Almost forty percent

1467
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 3: of their offensive snaps have been with two tight ends

1468
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 3: on the field. That's the fourth highest percentage in the league.

1469
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 3: And they're very, very good out of Craft can line

1470
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 3: up anywhere. Musgrave, who hasn't had the receiving numbers, but

1471
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 3: he's a very athletic guy, be interesting to see as

1472
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 3: the season progresses and he gets healthier if he becomes

1473
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 3: a factor as well.

1474
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 2: Ye had ten different players with at least one target

1475
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 2: last week. Emmanuel Wilson ended up becoming the leading rusher.

1476
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 2: He ended up with over eighty five yards from scrimmage

1477
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:36,240
Speaker 2: on his touches. So another option as they get to

1478
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 2: maybe not overuse Josh Jacobs in the middle part of

1479
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 2: the season and make sure he's ready and loaded for Bears.

1480
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 2: This goes through I bring this one up because again

1481
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:49,799
Speaker 2: people think Carolina and they think of history. They're actually

1482
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 2: a competitive squad floating in that five hundred range as

1483
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:56,959
Speaker 2: we hit the second half of the season. Now, obviously

1484
01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 2: this one's expected to be a big blowout scenario. But

1485
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 2: until they play the games, you've got me locked in.

1486
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:07,640
Speaker 2: I'm curious to see what Bryce Young and company have

1487
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 2: against this Green Bay defense.

1488
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 3: Greg Yeah, he's back. Green Bay's defense has It's been,

1489
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 3: for the most part, pretty good, you know. I think

1490
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 3: on the back end is where you feel at times

1491
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 3: that you can take advantage of them, just because of

1492
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 3: the people that they have playing back there, particularly at

1493
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 3: the outside corner position. It's been Nixon and Valentine, you know,

1494
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 3: solid players, But I think I would bet that offensive

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Speaker 3: coordinators feel like we can do something outside. And Ted

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Speaker 3: mcmillans had a really good season for a rookie, you know,

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Speaker 3: given that the quarterback situation, I don't want to say

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01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:44,719
Speaker 3: it's been up and down. Certainly, Bryce Young has improved.

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Speaker 3: He missed last week obviously, and it just didn't go

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Speaker 3: well for Anddy Dalton. But Young's back this week. But

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Speaker 3: you're right, until you play these games, you never know.

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01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:55,839
Speaker 3: In their defense. Look, they struggled against the run obviously

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01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 3: last week, but for the most part it's not been bad.

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Speaker 2: Andy Dalton and the thummy injury in his return to

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Speaker 2: As we go global time and time again, we get

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Speaker 2: one more game in as we roll through the Jacksonville

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Speaker 2: Jaguars on the road at Las Vegas. Brock Bauers is back,

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Speaker 2: still waiting for that big influx of stats and meeting

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Speaker 2: expectations for Ashton Jenny. But Jacksonville without Travis Hunters, so

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Speaker 2: Parker Washington steps up into that number two receiving slot

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence. It's a spot for Jacksonville here as they

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Speaker 2: try to keep their hopes alive for season play. There

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Speaker 2: out of the South.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's been such an inconsistency to Trevor Lawrence. I

1523
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 3: know coaches who've been with him, everybody loves them, you

1524
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 3: know when they coach him. There's just been, you know,

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01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 3: an inconsistency to his play. He's a big kid, he's

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01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 3: a long kid. He struggles out of squeezed pockets because

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01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 3: he's a strider as a thrower, and when he can't stride,

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01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:25,680
Speaker 3: he tends to rush his delivery and can lose his

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01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 3: ball location. So it'll be interesting to see his further

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01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 3: development under Liam Cohen. First year, new offense. You have

1531
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 3: to take that into account. There's a lot of elements

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01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 3: to this offense. There's a lot of movement elements pre

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01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 3: snap movement, shifts, motions, all that plays into it. How

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01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 3: do you get the call in the huddle? Can you

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01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 3: get to the line of scrimmage fast enough so that

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01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:50,759
Speaker 3: all the shifts and motions can happen comfortably, and then

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01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence has time to research and investigate the defense.

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01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 3: That's the operational part of playing quarterback that not a

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01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 3: lot of people talk about, which is always takes time

1540
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:02,639
Speaker 3: when you have a new coordinator and a new coach.

1541
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 3: But you know, the whole thing with Hunter fascinates me.

1542
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 3: I personally believe, and maybe people tell me I'm wrong.

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01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 3: I think you have to decide what he is. Is

1544
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 3: he a corner or a receiver? I don't think you

1545
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 3: can play both in the National Football League on any

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01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 3: meaningful level. Does that mean you can't put him out

1547
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 3: there for a couple of snaps here and there. But

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01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 3: I do not believe he can play twenty thirty plus

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01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 3: snaps at each position. That's just my personal opinion.

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01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 2: I'm right there with you get great at one and

1551
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 2: then we can sprinkle back in the other way. But

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01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:37,680
Speaker 2: we'll see how they use it on IR for the

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01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 2: next four and you roll on. He's great, Cozella on

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Speaker 2: my carbon Fox Football Sunday Fox Sports Radio. Is still

1555
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Speaker 2: a couple of games as we whip around the schedule. Reminder, Cleveland, Philadelphia,

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Speaker 2: the New York Football Jets, and the Buccaneers all celebrating

1557
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:55,840
Speaker 2: their bye week this week, so make your lineup adjustments accordingly.

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01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 2: A couple more to get to what We'll head out

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Speaker 2: to New York, New Jersey with the San Francisco forty

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01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 2: nine ers and a huge spot here another Mac Jones

1561
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:07,680
Speaker 2: experience ahead. What do we expect? We'll talk about it

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Speaker 2: next here on Fox. Hey, welcome back in Fox Sports Radios,

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Speaker 2: couple more minutes, a couple more matchups as we go through.

1573
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 2: As we heard Dan Buyer's update at the bottom of

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01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 2: the hour, Greg, the tackles will be ready for Minnesota,

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01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 2: will JJ McCarthy against the Detroit defense. Aiden Hutchinson looking

1576
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 2: to prove he was worth every dime of that contract extension.

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Speaker 3: Well, and what I'm curious to see is how Kevin

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01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 3: O'Connell goes about putting it together to the FA in

1579
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 3: this game, because I think McCarthy's clearly not at the

1580
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 3: point where you really want to put the game in

1581
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 3: his hands obviously unless it plays out differently, but early on,

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01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 3: I would think it's going to be a lot of

1583
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 3: quick throws, a lot of what we almost call one

1584
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 3: read no reed throws, just get him completions. But I

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01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 3: want to say something about the other side of the ball,

1586
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 3: because you know, this was a game that we did

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01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 3: in the Matchup show, and we went back and looked

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01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 3: at last year where the Lions beat the Vikings twice

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01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 3: in the two games. Check this out, Mike, just you

1590
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 3: almost have to be seated to hear these numbers. In

1591
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 3: the two games against a Brian Flores defense, Jamiir Gibbs

1592
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 3: had forty seven touches for three hundred and thirty yards

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01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 3: and six touchdowns. Just think about that. For just those

1594
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:47,879
Speaker 3: are in the two games against the Vikings. I imagine

1595
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:50,799
Speaker 3: Brian Floores will be focused a bit on Jamier Gibbs.

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01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 2: You think he gave him some nightmares for those fuzzy

1597
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 2: math at seven yards of touch and six touchdowns and

1598
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 2: six touchdowns, that's insane.

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Speaker 3: And Gibbs is just one of those guys. You know,

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Speaker 3: I think I've said this before with you. There's just

1601
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 3: a few guys in the league that have terrifying speed.

1602
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:10,760
Speaker 3: The Lions actually have two of them, and Gibbs and

1603
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 3: Jamison Williams. So if Gibbs gets clean to a safety,

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01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 3: the safety is not going to tackle him.

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01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:20,719
Speaker 2: Now, it's funny you mentioned Jameson Williams because the OC

1606
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:23,600
Speaker 2: and everybody around the team talking about I got to

1607
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 2: get him involved. They gotta do this, Yeah, force feeding

1608
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 2: him the ball, just trying to get him involved early.

1609
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out. You know, you got a

1610
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 2: lot of miles to feed there in that Detroit offense.

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01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:38,560
Speaker 3: You sure do. And that's not an easy thing for coordinator.

1612
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 3: And Morten has done a terrific job. He's a first

1613
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 3: year coordinator, and that's a hard thing to do. You know,

1614
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 3: They've got Gibbs, They've got Montgomery, They've got Saint Brown,

1615
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 3: They've got Laporta, they've got Williams. I mean, there's a

1616
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:54,639
Speaker 3: lot of players. They are really good players. And it's again,

1617
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 3: I'm not a coordinator. I'm not going to sit here

1618
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 3: and say I know how to do it. I certainly don't.

1619
01:17:58,600 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 3: But it's a difficult thing to do.

1620
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 2: San Francisco trying to come back off that loss to

1621
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:05,759
Speaker 2: the Houston Texans, a week ago they traveled to New York.

1622
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:08,799
Speaker 2: No Scatabo done for the year with that ankle injury.

1623
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 2: Very defleating. I think a lot of fans were disappointed

1624
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 2: league wide, just the way in stylely Ran. You saw

1625
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:18,679
Speaker 2: the reaction from the crowd that gave him a standing

1626
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 2: ovation and it was not, you know, a jeering kind

1627
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:24,760
Speaker 2: of motion. It was I'm sorry to see that guy go.

1628
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 2: So a tough spot here for the Giants for young

1629
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:31,680
Speaker 2: Jackson Dart against San Francisco. Now San Francisco down a

1630
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 2: couple of their their biggest defensive pieces, but still a

1631
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 2: tough slate trying to find that next man up.

1632
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Giants are an interesting team right now.

1633
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 3: Darts Darts an interesting guy because he's playing with his

1634
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 3: legs more than he's playing from the pocket. And and

1635
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 3: right now he's playing very fast with unfocused eyes. He's

1636
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 3: I learned a great term when I worked with Ryan

1637
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 3: Jaworski for years and years and years, and I love

1638
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 3: this term. And you can see it with a quarterback.

1639
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:01,559
Speaker 3: Certainly when you watch tape, he's seeing everything but really

1640
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 3: seeing nothing. Right and yeah, and right now Dart's kind

1641
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 3: of in that mode. But his legs are are really

1642
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 3: you have to stop him from moving around. That's the

1643
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 3: way he's made a lot of his plays.

1644
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 2: I feel like that should be on a T shirt.

1645
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 2: I'll get everything nothing, Yeah, piece of the action if

1646
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:19,799
Speaker 2: we can make that.

1647
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:21,559
Speaker 3: Right, right, right, right, all right, let's go.

1648
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 2: Another match up. But Atlanta and New England. Drake may

1649
01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 2: Company nearly twenty seven points per game. There's a shocker.

1650
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 2: Pennic's back under center for Atlanta.

1651
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and and you know, Atlanta's a very interesting offensive

1652
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 3: team because you know, again, I just feel like that

1653
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:38,640
Speaker 3: Bjon Robinson needs to They need to get back to

1654
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 3: the basics. To me, then where Bjon Robinson's kind of

1655
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 3: the foundation give him twenty to twenty five touches, you know,

1656
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 3: assuming the game is close. For the most part, Atlanta's

1657
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:50,679
Speaker 3: defense has been pretty good. They've had some poor moments,

1658
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 3: but for the most part, Jeff Eulbrook's done a really

1659
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 3: good job with his pressures. He likes to play man.

1660
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 3: And we've talked a lot about Drake may You know,

1661
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 3: you're starting to say the same thing every week. You

1662
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 3: just wonder is he going to have that bad game?

1663
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:05,000
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, you got to figure a bad

1664
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 3: game might happen at some point. But he's played exceptionally

1665
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 3: well and I just love how calm he moves within

1666
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 3: the pocket. And yes he can run out of the

1667
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 3: pocket too, but he moves so well within the pocket.

1668
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 2: And for atlanta'll be huge. Drake London will be back

1669
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 2: for them as well. Lastly, Look, I avoided the Bears

1670
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:29,680
Speaker 2: and Bengals, but Joe Flacco against the Bears, we can

1671
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:33,520
Speaker 2: even kick that to the curb Seattle, Washington or Chicago Cincinnati.

1672
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:34,599
Speaker 2: Choose You're an adventure for.

1673
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 3: The well, you know what. Look, I personally think after

1674
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 3: watching tape that I thought Caleb Williams showed some positive

1675
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 3: signs of growth versus the Ravens last week. He didn't

1676
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:44,680
Speaker 3: get stuck in the pocket as much as we've seen

1677
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:48,600
Speaker 3: in other games this season. I think incrementally he's developing

1678
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 3: a little more sense and a better feel for the

1679
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:53,840
Speaker 3: timing of Ben Johnson's pass game. Now, he's not a

1680
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:57,680
Speaker 3: natural timing and anticipation guy, so this is going to

1681
01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 3: take time. He's really in his rookie season.

1682
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 2: Mike, Yeah, So it's curious, right, a work in progress,

1683
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:06,679
Speaker 2: no question about it. Need to cash in on those

1684
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 2: early scripts and find the end zone, but certainly an

1685
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:16,600
Speaker 2: opportunity here against a well bad Cincinnati defense. Greg always fantastic,

1686
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 2: run with you. Two hours in the books. Countdown to

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Speaker 2: kick Off presented by bet MGM. Next Up, Fox,