1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Hi. This is new due to the virus. I'm recording 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: from home, so you may notice a difference in audio 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: quality on this episode of News World. He grew up 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: on the South side of Chicago, on streets filled with violence, poverty, 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: and drugs. One of nine children raised by grandparents. As 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: his mother battled addiction to correct Johano Caldwell armed himself 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: with faith, conservative values, and an unrelenting spirit to achieve 8 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: his dreams and become the sworn enemy of politically correct culture. 9 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: You know, I want to share with all of you 10 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: that again Which three sixty. We've evolved so that, in 11 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: addition to consulting and thinking about issues and opportunities for 12 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: America both at home and abroad, we developed content across 13 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: all platforms and partnerships so that you and like minded 14 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: personalities have a chance to really develop and hear new ideas, 15 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: new people, and new information. We want to become a 16 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 1: home for mentoring and amplifying people with important and entertaining 17 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: ideas to share. We created the Gain Which three sixty 18 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: podcast network with iHeartMedia, a content platform where we find 19 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: strong voices and personalities in today's conservative arena and produce 20 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: new podcasts and television series focusing on the conservative experience 21 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: by finding and bringing you thought leaders for millennials, gen 22 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: Z and from underrepresented communities. That's because we believe we 23 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: need to grow the next generation of conservative leaders and 24 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: personalities across all of America. One of the first people 25 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: that we talked with who were really excited by is 26 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: my guest today. Jano Caldwell is a Fox News political analyst, 27 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: author of Taken for Granted, How Conservatism Can Win back 28 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: the Americans that Liberalism failed, and the successful owner of 29 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: Caldwell Strategic Consultant, a bipartisan prem in Washington, DC that 30 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:10,119 Speaker 1: provides strategic advice and consulting in the areas of public affairs. 31 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: He is now the host of Out Loud with Gianna Calwell, 32 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: a new weekly podcast series we are producing, but I 33 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: strongly urge you to download and listen to it. At 34 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: the end of the podcast, we're going to share a 35 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: portion about loud to give you a sample of what 36 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: you can expect. Gianna, Welcome to the English three sixty family. 37 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: I am so glad to be producing your new show, 38 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: and you have personally such an amazing story. Could you 39 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: share with our listeners just how you grew up and 40 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: how you got to be where you are today. Well, 41 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: first and foremost, Speaker, thank you so much for bringing 42 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: me into the family as such an honor to be 43 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: with someone who I respected for a number of years. 44 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: I became a conservative well over a decade ago, but 45 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: I can tell you for sure it was within fluence 46 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: and which you provided as Speaker of the House when 47 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: you worked on the welfare reform legislation of the nineties 48 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: had really changed my life, and it had such a 49 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: strong impact from a policy standpoint, which encouraged my desire 50 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: to be a conservative even more, to know that a 51 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: person can have been on welfare but certainly pull themselves 52 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: out of those conditions and truly make something of themselves. 53 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: So thank you, in a very big round of applause 54 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: to you, speaker, Well, thank you. So I'm curious what 55 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: was it that led you to search for conservatives or 56 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: how old were you at that time? So at that 57 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: time I was in my late teens, And to be 58 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: honest with you, I grew up in a household of Democrats. 59 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: The neighborhoods and which we resided in on the South 60 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: side of Chicago. There was nothing but Democrats or rounds. Therefore, 61 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: what people talked about with regards to politics was all 62 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: I knew at that particular time. I remember engaging in 63 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: a conversation with the African American fellow on the South 64 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: side of Chicago one day and repeating the same anthem, 65 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: if you will about Republicans that I heard from my teachers, 66 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: from my parents, from my cousins, from just about anyone 67 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: that I came in contact with, which was Republicans are racist, 68 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: they don't care about poor people, they don't care about 69 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: black people. And this African American gentleman, interestingly enough, stopped me. 70 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: He stopped me in my tracks, and he began to 71 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: say things that I'd never heard before. He told me 72 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: that the first African Americans that got involved in politics 73 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: with conservatives. We're talking about members of Congress, Senate, governors, mayors. 74 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: He said that MLK was a Republican, and he mentioned 75 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: a number of other individuals who were African Americans that 76 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: were Republicans that I never heard this before. I never 77 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: heard that MLK was, in fact the conservative. I never 78 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: heard that the first leaders in politics they are African Americans, 79 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: were Conservatives. And honestly, I thought this guy I was 80 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: lying to me, and especially when he said MLK someone 81 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: who we as a country respect so much to say 82 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: that he was someone which people in my community made 83 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: the false accusations of Republicans in the conservative movement being racist. 84 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: I just couldn't believe it. But whenever I'm challenged, I 85 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: go and research to I can have a stronger argument later. 86 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: And that's probably what makes me good on Fox News, 87 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: because I want to make sure that I have the 88 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: facts to bring to the conversation later. And what I 89 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: discovered by doing a simple Google search during those days, 90 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: differences distinctions between Democrats and Republicans. When I saw the 91 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: history of the Republican Party started in eighteen fifty four 92 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: in opposition to the Kansons to Braska Act. When I 93 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: saw the values which we call traditional family values a 94 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: lot of us, the values of faith, family, the fact 95 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: that we want to see businesses grow and thrive. When 96 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: I saw those values, it began to reflect and to 97 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: me immediately I thought I was looking in a mirror. 98 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: And it was from that moment after I realized, Wow, 99 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: I am, in fact the conservative and the Republican Party 100 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: reflects me more than any Democratic party has ever reflected me. 101 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: I began to become a little depressed because after being 102 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: taught this all these years that Republicans are racist, I'm like, wow, 103 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: am I now racist? Like what's going on? And that's 104 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: what began the journey for me and the conservative movement. 105 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: That's really amazing when you talking about growing up, looking 106 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: back now, what was it like in your teenage years 107 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: to be living on the South Side of Chicago? You know, 108 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: interestingly enough, if I were to take that question and 109 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: even go further back before my teenage years, I grew 110 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: up on the South Side of Chicago, extremely poor. The lights, 111 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: the gas, the water was off at the same time, 112 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: oftentimes all together. My mom, who I think she tried, 113 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: but she got caught up into drug use Craco came 114 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: to be specific, and we lived in the project. At 115 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: one particular time. I remember leaving school one day and 116 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: getting beat up by the gangs there because they wanted 117 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: me to join the gang so badly and I refused to. 118 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: And interestingly enough, my grandmother, her mom, ended up saving 119 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,559 Speaker 1: our lives, moving us outside the projects into the house 120 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: with her, and she was trying to give my mom 121 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: back to some normal state. She wanted us to be 122 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: a cohesive family. Well, things only got worse with my mom, 123 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: to the point that my grandmother demanded that she give 124 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: over a custody of me and my siblings and going 125 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: to rehab. And at that particular point, that's when things 126 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: really begin to change. And I thought going in a 127 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: positive direction, but something happened was changed the pathway of 128 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: my grandmother's life. She was leaving the garage one day 129 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: because she was a private duty nurse. She was going 130 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: to work, and as she exited and got down the road, 131 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: a drunk driver hit her car and completely disabled her 132 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: to the point that she couldn't work anymore. So now 133 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: she's in a house with me and my siblings, and 134 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: she's gotten temporary custody of us, but now she can't 135 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: afford to work. She can't work because of her health, 136 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: her condition, and being disabled. So we got on all 137 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: these government assistance programs. My grandmother ended up having an 138 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: option of either keep your home or lose your home 139 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: the foreclosure by taking care of us, and she chose 140 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: the ladder. She chose us, But things really spiraled out 141 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: of control. I remember moving every couple of years, or 142 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: even in some cases every year, because I couldn't afford 143 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,599 Speaker 1: the rent, So now maybe the house is about to 144 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: be foreclosed upon, and I just couldn't imagine how could 145 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: we ever live in conditions like this continuously? And I 146 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: wanted to do something to change where things were going 147 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 1: in our lives. And I did something I think was 148 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: fairly different from a fourteen year old at that particular time. 149 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: I was blessed to have my dad in my life. 150 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: He would pick me up on the weekends, take me 151 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: to his parents' house where we're going to do catfish 152 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: and spaghetti. I know it's a little different. Perhaps our 153 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: audience is more of a Southern thing and adding the 154 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: spaghetti into the caffish in the Chicago thing. So it 155 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: was different, but I got used to that. Now catfish 156 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: is my favorite dish, honestly. But this one particular Saturday, 157 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: I was about fourteen years old. My grandfather he would 158 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: wake me up every Saturday and take me to work 159 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: with him. He would pay me ten dollars a day 160 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: to hold a flashlight hand tools because he was in 161 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: small business plumb, a construction business. And this one particular day, 162 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: we're riding through this area of Chicago called Inglewood, which 163 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: is one of the hardest hit areas in terms of 164 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: the drugs and the violands. And as we're riding through 165 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: this area, I see this lady and it really took 166 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: my breath away because she looked drugged up and beat down, 167 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: and I just knew that I saw my mother. And 168 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: at that point, the tears begin to flow down my eyes, 169 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: I mean dropping, but not so much whereas water works. 170 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: And I tried to hide my face for my grandfather 171 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: and then this very southern voice, he says to me, 172 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: what's wrong with you, boy? And as we're riding by, 173 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 1: looked and I realized that the lady who I saw 174 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: was not my mother, but it absolutely could have been. 175 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: And I say to my grandfather, what can I do 176 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: to prevent this from happening. Then he begins to tell 177 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: me about the elected officials, the power they have increased 178 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: the penalty of law for those selling distribute drugs, and 179 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: how they can provide grant funding for those who want 180 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: to be rehabilitated. And I said at that point, I 181 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: want to be an elected official. And the very next 182 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: week I started volunteering for my local alderman's office. And 183 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 1: that's how I got involved in politics. That's wild. So 184 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: what was it like helping an Alderman in Chicago. Well, 185 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: it was a different experience this particular Alderman. I felt 186 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: like she and a lot of ways cared about the people. 187 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: And I know that in some cases it may not 188 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: have fully resignated with people. I've seen her occupied different 189 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: spaces and as she engaged with the public. But at 190 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: the same time, there was a lot of people in 191 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: our community that was still hurting. And what I ended 192 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: up seeing from just that experience is engaging with other 193 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: elected officials who clearly didn't care. They gave a good 194 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: line to the black residents in the community every election 195 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 1: year about how they're trying to do this, that, and 196 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: the other. They would point back to the white politicians 197 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: who were Democrats also and say that they're holding up 198 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: opportunities for our community. And it was always a blame game. 199 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: And in the state of politics, it shouldn't be about 200 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: pointing figures. It should be about providing solutions. So if 201 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: I go back to the welfare reform of ninety six, 202 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: in which you put together speaker, you put together a 203 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: real solution for people, people who grew up in communities 204 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 1: like me who just wanted an opportunity. Because more often 205 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: than not. We know that welfare is supposed to be temporary, 206 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: but if you believe that you're gonna have the rug 207 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: snatch from under you as soon as you get going 208 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: with a job, how many people will feel motive to 209 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: do that. They want to feel protected and have some stability. 210 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: What you created, Speaker, was real stability for people, and 211 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: for people who may not be aware of what you did. 212 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: Just to give a very brief synopsis and allow folks 213 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: who were receiving welfare to either go to school or 214 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: get a job, and you can work this job for 215 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: a period of time before the income you receive from 216 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 1: that job counted against you. In addition to that, that 217 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: was childcare provided my belief for single mothers who needed 218 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: to have someone to look after their child while they 219 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: were in school or work. That's real opportunity. That's real 220 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: conservatism at work. The government that is in use for 221 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: a temporary period of time, but ultimately you are responsible 222 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: for your own success. And that's why I can't thank 223 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: you enough, Speaker. That is what we were trying to accomplish, 224 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: and it did lead to people going to work. It 225 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 1: led to changing the welfare officers into employment officers and 226 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: actually led to the largest number of young people getting 227 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: out of poverty as children in American history. Because people 228 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: want to work. There incomes one up and who are 229 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: doing better. I have to go back and ask you 230 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: for a moment, so I hope you don't mind. How 231 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 1: was your mother today? My mom is doing a lot better. 232 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: She's completely and totally recovered. She was on drugs from 233 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: about the age I was about eight or nine into 234 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: my twenties, and when I wrote the book Taken for Granted, 235 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: I had to sit down with her and have these 236 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: very uncomfortable conversations. Honestly, speaker people didn't really get interested 237 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: in my story, even as a conservative from the South 238 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: Side of Chicago into twenty sixteen. When I started appearing 239 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: on Fox News Channel. That's when the radio stations and 240 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 1: everyone are saying, Hey, how could this guy be an 241 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: African American conservative coming from this kind of environment, And 242 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: it's typically something that we don't say. And I'm proud 243 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: to be an example of conservatism and action because I 244 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: think there's so many other folks that are in the 245 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: African American community that would be happy to be a 246 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: part of the movement. They just don't see anyone that 247 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: look like them a part of it. And that's part 248 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: of the reason why I think what you're doing here 249 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: at Gingis Street sixty is so important because you're exposing 250 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: all elements of conservatism, especially those who may not be 251 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: privy to it. They may not have an understanding of it, 252 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: they may not know that being who you are, you 253 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: don't lose your identity by being a conservative. You actually 254 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: amplify it. And if you look at the Poland, most 255 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: African Americans often say that they're conservative, they just don't 256 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: vote that way. And that's when we change our rhetoric 257 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: and we have compassionate people and we show that. And 258 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: I think President Trump in a lot of ways, and 259 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: I know there's going to be people that disagree with me. 260 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: I think he's done a lot of great things for 261 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: the African American community and most importantly, has been the 262 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: most impactful president for the African American community from a 263 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: policy standpoint that we've ever seen in my lifetime and 264 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: generations before me. 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Sign up for a one or two year 286 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: membership today at Newt Center Circle dot com. That's Newts 287 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: Inner Circle dot com. How do you know about battling 288 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: politically correct culture. I think that this PEC culture, which 289 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: was really amplified by the Obama administration, where you really 290 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: can't say what you believe, what you feel, what you 291 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: think because you may hurt someone's feelings or the mainstream 292 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: disagrees with you so much. And it's gotten so bad 293 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: that you see people who can't even say that they 294 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: support the president without the possibility of getting fired or 295 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: losing customers. This has eroded the real freedoms that we 296 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: have been guaranteed in the Constitution, the freedom of speech, 297 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: the freedom to have one's opinion. You can have disagreement 298 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: on the floor the House of Representatives with your colleagues, 299 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: and then you can go have a drink and a 300 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: stake with them after and laugh and talk and still 301 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 1: be friends. That doesn't really exist much anymore. When I 302 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,719 Speaker 1: go on television and I defend the president on a topic, 303 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: when I say what he's done for African Americans, I 304 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: can't tell you how many quote unquote friends that I 305 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: had who said, you know what, I can no longer 306 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 1: be friends with you. And this is in spite of 307 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: the fact that a lot of folks left me when 308 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: I decided to be a conservative. I had friends that 309 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: said they didn't want anything to do with me or 310 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: even my family for that matter. So without allowed with 311 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: Giano Caldwell. We want to have an intellectually honest conversation 312 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: with people. At times will be very provocative. It may 313 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: be things that they may or may not disagree with, 314 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: but I am always going to tell you the truth. 315 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: I am going to tell you the truth from my 316 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: lens and perspective, which I think is very unique for 317 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: most conservatives, not all the time. Trump or whoever may 318 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: be right. I'll tell you what I think, and I'll 319 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: tell you why I may say Trump is right when 320 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: everyone else says that he's wrong. Whoever the candidate or 321 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: whatever the issue is, you can count on me to 322 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: not give you the politically correct narrative which a lot 323 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: of us been baked into, especially young people today. Young 324 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: people today have completely lost their way. A lot of us, 325 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: not all of us, but certainly a lot of young 326 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: people today have lost their way and now living in 327 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: a universe which I don't think most of us can 328 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: really identify at this point. One example that's gotten a 329 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: lot of publicity where you've had a politically correct debate 330 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: underway is a National football league First of all, how 331 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 1: do you think it's been affected. I'm guessing that you're 332 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: a Bears fan. I'm a fan of everything Chicago, but 333 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: the violence, the dead, and the Democratic Party. This was 334 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: a painful conversation with me because I own a share 335 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: of Green Bay stuff. But I'm going to try to 336 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:20,479 Speaker 1: rise above this kind of petty rivalry. How do you 337 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: think the NFL has been affected by all these cultural pressures? 338 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: You know what's interesting? On my first episode, I allow 339 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: with Giano Caldwell, we have Herschel Walker, which I encourage 340 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: everyone to listen to. Of course subscribe download for this 341 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: free podcast. But Herschel provided some really strong insights. Now 342 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: let me give you my insight. I think that it 343 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: is okay for players to protest. I think that football 344 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: is a business. Therefore you have to respect the rules 345 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: of the organization. If I come to work for you 346 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 1: and you have a set of rules in place for me, 347 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 1: that I either should follow them or go somewhere else leave. 348 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: At the same time, for those who you chose to protest, 349 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: my next question is what are you doing beyond just 350 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: protesting and using this as a publicity push. Because I've 351 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 1: seen a lot of players try to raise their name, 352 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: I D by protesting and making these very political messages 353 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: that are a lot of times rooted in the Democratic 354 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: Party policy platform. So beyond that, what are you doing? 355 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: Are you going on the hill to talk to members 356 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 1: of Congress about changes that you want to see put forth? 357 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: Are you working with the administration on criminal justice reform? 358 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: Are you working with the administration on police reform? What 359 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: are you doing? I'm not questioned the fact that people 360 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: can legitimately feel the way that they feel. I just 361 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: think that there's a time and a place for it. 362 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: And once you get the attention, what do you do 363 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: to keep moving the ball forward? That will always be 364 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: my question, and I've seen a lot of people just 365 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: use it as a political movement to raise their value 366 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: and brand. I have to tell you, I'm very impressed 367 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: from a Georgia perspective. Do you have Herschel Walker coming on? 368 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 1: People will love it. I'm telling you Herschel is someone 369 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: who's lighting up the political stage and just telling them 370 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: how it is. He's just given his truth and a 371 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 1: lot of us, I know, can see beyond some of 372 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: the things the political messaging that we've seen on television 373 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: and on social media, it's important to take a real 374 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: strong look at these things and not just buy into him. 375 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: And that's what the left will have us do. That's 376 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: why the PC culture has become so powerful, because it's 377 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: a culture that doesn't give you the right to think 378 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: for yourself. This isn't something that says, hey, be a 379 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 1: free thinker. This is think what I think and say 380 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: what I say, and that's your only choice. You have 381 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: no other opportunity but to think what I think and 382 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: say what I deem is appropriate. That's what they want. 383 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: They want us to capitulate to that narrative, and free 384 00:21:42,560 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: people just can't do that. Why do you that you're 385 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: really a pioneer that you don't have more African Americans 386 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: embracing conservatives. It's a twofold one. We had never had 387 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: within our party this level of outreach to the African 388 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: American community that I've seen since President Trump, even going 389 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: back to Candidate Trump in twenty sixteen, that every rally 390 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: that you saw him at he was talking about black issues. 391 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: They've taken your vote for granted, they don't care about you. 392 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: Look at your schools. And people didn't like it because 393 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: it wasn't politically correct and It sounds very harsh, but 394 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: the truth of the matter is they have taken our 395 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 1: votes for granted, many many times you talk about African 396 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: Americans voting ninety percent plus for Democrats. But yet and 397 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: still look at the communities in which some of us 398 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: reside in, look at the policies. These policies, especially when 399 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: it comes to welfare, aren't meant to raise you about 400 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: a poverty. They're meant to lock you in. That's what 401 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: they want. They want full on government dependency. Therefore, I 402 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: throw you a little bit of a bone, not a 403 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: whole bone, but a little bit of a bone, and 404 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: you can continue to vote us in. Truthfully, black lives 405 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: don't matter to Democrats. Black votes matter to Democrats, and 406 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: if that's all that's ever mattered. And interestingly enough, I'm 407 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 1: so shocked and surprised that seeded Democrats have put up 408 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: Joe Biden as their candidate, especially considering the fact that 409 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 1: President Trump says something that was so true, Joe Biden 410 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 1: is the worst politician I think Black folks have ever experienced. 411 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: Why the ninety four Crimeville, which I think has impacted 412 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: millions of African Americans, the recentivism raid after that was 413 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 1: over seventy five percent. It didn't make things better. There 414 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 1: was no real investment into communities. And even while he 415 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: was running for president this time around, what is its 416 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: third time this time around, he still didn't have any 417 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: policies that spoke to the black experience. President Trump did. 418 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: He didn't just have policies in terms of this is 419 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: what I plan to do, this is what I may do. 420 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: He's actually done it, which makes an a normal It's 421 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 1: different now with going back to your question, how can 422 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: you get more African Americans in simply doing what you're doing, 423 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: putting me out there, putting other African Americans out there, 424 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: who are conservative minded and who can actually speak to 425 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: the experience which I think is clearly important that people 426 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: are gonna demean folks the Bible said with love and 427 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: kindness about drawn there people who are going to really 428 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: speak to that experience that people can be drawn in. 429 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: And I'm excited to be a part of that movement. 430 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 1: So when you think about that, though, if you go 431 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 1: back home and you look at the South side Chicago, 432 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 1: which is frankly always fascinated me because of his head 433 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: such an abnormal level of violence. This is a great 434 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 1: city of Chicago. There's no automatic reason for that. What 435 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 1: do you think of the real obstacles to breaking through? 436 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: I've always thought that getting a job, having safety, having health, 437 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: and being able to learn those four things with a 438 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: practical reality for normal people. And yet it seems like 439 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: in the South Side of Chicago there are problems that 440 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: are just built in that they don't seem to be 441 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: able to break through on. Why do you think that is? 442 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: You know, there's two things that come to mind, and 443 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: they're reflective of my family. So people know that I 444 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: made it out, I've done quite well and continue to 445 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: do well. And some of my siblings there's nine of 446 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 1: us total, and I have an older brother who's five 447 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: years older than me, he's thirty eight, and then I 448 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: have younger siblings. I'm second oldis my older brother. I 449 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 1: hate to say it, but he's really been a career criminal. 450 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: To be honest with you. He didn't know his father 451 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: and he's been getting in trouble with a loss since 452 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: he was about fourteen years old. He interestingly enough, recently 453 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: just got out of jail again. So that's I think 454 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: an area where environment plays such an important role. And 455 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: I have another sibling who recently league got into some 456 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: trouble with the law for the first time ever. And 457 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: this is a kid who took him to events with 458 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 1: me that a thousand person keynote speech. I'm paying him 459 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,959 Speaker 1: on my book tour, making sure he's with me, just 460 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: to show him something different. And he can be really 461 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: exposed because when my family needs money, they call me, Hey, 462 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: this is going on. We're about to be evicted. The 463 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: lights are off or whatever. And it seems very triconian, 464 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: but because it is, it's hard. But those are the 465 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 1: realities for a lot of African Americans that make it out. 466 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: There'll be people that pull on your strings because they 467 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: see no one else. So going back to my younger 468 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: brother who recently got in trouble with the law, and 469 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: you know, I've been helping out to hire an attorney 470 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 1: and all of that, and I've been wondering about the 471 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: reality of the situation in which he's in. And it's 472 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: all about environment for me, a part of it. And 473 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: then it's the fact that people have to want something 474 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: for themselves. You can get cooked into this environment of 475 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: crime and drugs and clearly follow that path. If you 476 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: can have a brother who's on national television, who's doing well. 477 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 1: You can have all of these other things around you, 478 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: But if you're in these environments and you're in some 479 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: ways clearly taking part in them, and you don't want 480 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 1: something greater for yourself, there's nothing you can do. So 481 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 1: everyone can't be saved. That's number one. But then there'll 482 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 1: be a person who really wants to make it out 483 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 1: who doesn't want that for themselves, like me, for example. 484 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: And I don't consider myself exceptional by any measure. I 485 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: think we all have God given potential and it's up 486 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: to us to bring it out to do something good 487 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: with it. But in this situation, I believe that it 488 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: has to be somebody with this desire to make it out. 489 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: There'll be someone who comes to you and say, hey, 490 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: I see something great in you. Let me give you 491 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 1: a word. They will give you a word that may 492 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: change your life. Or there'll be an active participant and 493 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: you're making it out. So now when it comes to 494 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: my own family, I'm making sure that I'm a whole 495 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: lot more active because we can't lose anyone else. There's 496 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: so much potential and the Black community and communities across America, 497 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: and unfortunately, when it comes to the African American community, 498 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: the majority, I think of that potential lies in the 499 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: graveyard at this point. So when you go back home 500 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 1: with this philosophy and people see you on Fox, they 501 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: know who you are, and they know that you're willing 502 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: to speak your mind, what do they say to you? 503 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: What kind of reaction do you get back in the 504 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: neighborhood you came from. I've been called Uncle Tom a sellout. 505 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 1: How can you be on Fox News? How can you 506 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 1: support the president? How can you say anything supportive of him? 507 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: How can you be a defender? How can you defend conservatives, 508 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: the conservative movement? Any of those things. But then there's 509 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: some people who say, wow, I'm exceptionally proud of you. 510 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: I can't agree with your politics, but I'm very proud 511 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: of you. Or even in some cases I get people say, man, 512 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: I read your book Taking for Granted and it's changed 513 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: my ideas of what the conservative movement is now. I'm 514 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: a conservative. So it's been a variety of different responses 515 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: that I've received from people. But at the same time, 516 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: it's a tough reality for a lot of people in 517 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: this place. I think Trump supporters have gotten a little 518 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: taste of what it feels like to be conservative because 519 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: they may post something political on social media and their 520 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: friends unfollow them, their friends say I can't be friends 521 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: with you anymore. So now people are seeing this very 522 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: different reality. But the truth of the matter is we 523 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: can't stop speaking. We can't stop saying how we feel 524 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: about the president, we can't stop saying how we feel 525 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: about the conservative movement. Even if you have twelve Twitter followers, 526 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: you should say what you feel. There's not going to 527 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: be a PC culture that's going to stop us from 528 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: being unequivocally who we are, saying what we feel and 529 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: what we demand. There's no shame in that. And the 530 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: fact that Democrats have created this movement to shame people 531 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: is disgusting, it's disheartening, and it's Unamerican. So given that 532 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: strong position, which I love, what is your hope for 533 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: the podcast? Interestingly enough, I have a lot of great 534 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: hopes here, and we're bringing in folks that are national 535 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: guests that are very sought after, like herschel Walker for example, 536 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: as well as folks you may have never heard of, 537 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: to talk about a variety of issues, issues that in 538 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: some cases I may view from a different lens than 539 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: the party maybe we're talking about any particular policy and 540 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: the party has one way of thinking of it and 541 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: I think of it in another way. We're gonna be 542 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: challenging views on both sides, whether it be I'm bringing 543 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: on a Democrat or a Republican, or just someone who 544 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: may be a part of Hollywood who thinks differently and 545 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: unafraid to speak out against the mob in Hollywood. We're 546 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: going to be challenging perspectives on all angles so we 547 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: can make sure that we're more informed about the issue 548 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: that we're discussing, as well as ensuring that people have 549 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: a platform to hear all sides of an issue come together, 550 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: and we're gonna do so respectfully. It's going to be 551 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: an attaining space for everyone. Is going to be fun, 552 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: it's going to be informative, and we're going to challenge 553 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,239 Speaker 1: individual's way of thinking. I think it's gonna be very 554 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: exciting when you can start as a kickoff with herschel Walker, 555 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: You're on the way to having a whole series of 556 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: a great thing. So thank you for joining us you. 557 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: I know we are delighted to be working with you 558 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: and we wish you luck with the podcast launch. And 559 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: now I'm going to offer you a sneak preview about 560 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: loud Jiano called will would you mind telling us about 561 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: your childhood how you grew up. Well, it's a little 562 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: bit interesting because everyone, you know, they look at the 563 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: I always say they look at the glory, but they 564 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: don't look at my whole story. And what I mean 565 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: by that is I didn't grow up in sports. And 566 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: you know, everyone just assume because I'm a football player 567 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: that I got a lot of escalades are awards and 568 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: footballs and through athletics, that's all I ever dine. Where 569 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: the truth is, I never watched sports. The only sports 570 00:31:55,840 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: I ever watched was like w WF wrestling, and and 571 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: I knew a lot about that, but I didn't know 572 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: about sports, and most sports that I've learned, it's come 573 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: from books. I grew up a little bit overweight, where 574 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: people said my mom's was big bone, and and yeah 575 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: I was. I had a stuttering problem. I used to 576 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: stutter a real bad and I had kids that picked 577 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: on me. They used to beat me up. And at 578 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: a point in my life, enough was enough. Uh you know, 579 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: I started working out and started changing everything in my life, 580 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: and so much change in my life. But you know 581 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: the way I brought up didn't change. And what I 582 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: mean by that is I was brought up in the church. 583 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: My mom as a minister, and so I have three 584 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: sisters as ministers. I have two brother in laws as 585 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: a minister. So I brought up in the church. And 586 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: I do remember as the kids were picking on me. 587 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: One day, I hear my one pair of son and 588 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: shoes to go to church, and my knick name is Bold. 589 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: I told my mom I couldn't go to church because 590 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: I couldn't find my shoes. And she turned to me 591 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: and she said, Jesus don't care how you look. And 592 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: that's going to change my life because you know, all 593 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: my life people a word about how I love being 594 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: a weight, high sound, and know someone that didn't care 595 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: how I love how I sound. I decided, you know, 596 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: I want to forward this dude here it goes the 597 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: dude here got it going on. So that's how my 598 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: life's sort of change. And that's why I've been blessed 599 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: through athletic but also I've been blessed to try to 600 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: be honest as well, be honest and telling the truth. 601 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: And that's why I mean you talk about talking at 602 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: the convention. I tell people, you know, it's hard that 603 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: people don't want to know the truth. You know, I'm 604 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: not here, and one thing that unique is I didn't 605 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: come here to light any one. 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On the next episode of news world. 622 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: Which Supreme Court will America have in twenty twenty one. 623 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: We're really looking at a way of viewing the Supreme Court, 624 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 1: whether it is with a Trump reelection and a stable 625 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: court but a conservative court for the first time in 626 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: almost seventy years, or a Biden elect and if the 627 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 1: Democrats win the Senate an effort to pack the court. 628 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: So which court is a big question. It's the first 629 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 1: of our series on Trump's America, which is a new 630 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: mini series who were launching. I'm New English. This is 631 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 1: News World.