Speaker 1: This is the episode. You all know it, you all
Speaker 1: love it. Teresa g d J flips the table, table flipping,
Speaker 1: fist pumping, Jim Tann and laundry. It's all here in
Speaker 1: New Jersey GTL Baby. There was only one person we
Speaker 1: could bring in for this episode, the Jersey Queen herself,
Speaker 1: Nicole Snooky Palizzi. This is the Real Housewives of New
Speaker 1: Jersey Season one, Episode six finale. We met years ago
Speaker 1: at a like a club as part of something like
Speaker 1: a big I remember it's like a buy an escalator
Speaker 1: or some big living room thing as part of something
Speaker 1: where do we meet. I feel like it was, um
Speaker 1: what are they called. I feel like it was like
Speaker 1: an upfront or something. But I was literally obsessed with
Speaker 1: you and I cann't wait to stop you. I mean,
Speaker 1: you've done so well. I have to say, like you really,
Speaker 1: you know, made a dollar at a fifteen cents. Don't
Speaker 1: you feel like you made like real chicken salad out
Speaker 1: of this thing? I mean, I'm trying to be like you,
Speaker 1: but I feel aren't you succeed? Yeah? Is it going well?
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I feel like it's doing great. I mean,
Speaker 1: like you said, you know, you start on a crazy,
Speaker 1: you know, party reality show. We didn't even know it
Speaker 1: was going to be like all these seasons and still
Speaker 1: on air to this day. And then obviously you know
Speaker 1: you're getting all these opportunities. I can't say yes everything,
Speaker 1: so I said, actually love and um, I'm still going.
Speaker 1: So I feel like it's good. Yeah, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: just just snooky. So it's like good to be snooky
Speaker 1: because it's just like an iconic name brand person you understand,
Speaker 1: like it's just fun. So anyway, I'm excited to have
Speaker 1: you here, and how great for us to review a
Speaker 1: real Housewives of New Jersey episode. And I'm literally so
Speaker 1: excited for you. I love all your reviews and your
Speaker 1: Instagram and I just love how honest you are, Like
Speaker 1: you just don't give a ship, and I feel like
Speaker 1: that's been me always, so I just I look up
Speaker 1: to you. Well, I really appreciate that I presume that
Speaker 1: you know many of the Housewives of New Jersey or
Speaker 1: like you really know the show intimately. Yeah, so, um,
Speaker 1: I hung out with Molissa a few times, saw Theresa
Speaker 1: a few times. Um, I feel like the older ones,
Speaker 1: who is it the Man's out? Caroline, Caroline hands out?
Speaker 1: Um My husband knows the sun. So they're like a
Speaker 1: nice family. Um, so yeah, they're nice people. And do
Speaker 1: they live close to you? No? No, I think like
Speaker 1: an hour away maybe Okay, okay, And did you ever
Speaker 1: consider doing the show? Because I feel like there's been
Speaker 1: rumors about that? Is that were there rumors that are
Speaker 1: making that? Yeah? Okay, no, there's been rumors. Um, I
Speaker 1: don't think I can handle it. I'm like more of
Speaker 1: like the fun, like let's have fun and party like
Speaker 1: no drama, Like I hate drama. I know what happens
Speaker 1: sometimes on the show with us, and it is what
Speaker 1: it is, Like I try and steer clear from that ship,
Speaker 1: and I feel like Housewives is all that. So I
Speaker 1: feel like, um no, I couldn't. Okay, all right, So
Speaker 1: this is the real Housewives of New Jersey. This is
Speaker 1: the iconic table flip episode, and it's crazy and it's
Speaker 1: funny to go back and watch and for for no
Speaker 1: particular reason, even if it's around the same time frame,
Speaker 1: some episodes look more dated than others, and this episode
Speaker 1: does look dated, like it looks like from another era. Right,
Speaker 1: But this is the messy This is really the best
Speaker 1: time of Housewives. Like when I was on because it's
Speaker 1: more like Jersey Shore old School episodes where they're not
Speaker 1: too polished. It's a it's a mess. You could tell
Speaker 1: the productions a little bit of a mess. The way
Speaker 1: people look is more of a mess. They're doing their
Speaker 1: own they're wearing their clothes. It's not a circus where
Speaker 1: people have like f's and c's and g's every which
Speaker 1: way and they're like the jazz old Chanel with five
Speaker 1: different glad people was more like really fly on the
Speaker 1: wall back then, so credit not credit, but like because
Speaker 1: not credit for flipping a table. But that was before
Speaker 1: there really were outlandish antics on reality shows just to
Speaker 1: kind of get the ratings and kind of walk in
Speaker 1: with the plant. So this was the first one really
Speaker 1: and the Whole Housewives franchise where someone did something physically crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think that was two thousand nine because I
Speaker 1: had to look it up to be like when did
Speaker 1: this come out? And everybody just looks like babies, like
Speaker 1: even like when we watch US, because We Are show
Speaker 1: premiered in two thousand nine. So when I watched the
Speaker 1: first episodes of US, I'm like, I look seven. I
Speaker 1: was like, I look so different. My voice is different.
Speaker 1: It's just it's so crazy to look back and see
Speaker 1: all that. Well, that's good, that's a good touchstone to
Speaker 1: say that this. So this episode of the Real Housewives
Speaker 1: was season one, So this is when you were first
Speaker 1: on Jersey Shore. Just to give everyone per yeah, wow, okay,
Speaker 1: so all right. So I also find and we'll get
Speaker 1: into this together, that I look back and see people
Speaker 1: differently now not being in it. So, um, Danielle is
Speaker 1: in the Housewives, and you get the sense that she's
Speaker 1: going to that this book is going to reveal itself
Speaker 1: in the show because the book has been been discussed.
Speaker 1: And I'm in the car watching the episode, I'm thinking
Speaker 1: to myself how recently at Leasta Wrenna left the Housewives,
Speaker 1: And I was trying to explain to fans that if
Speaker 1: there's a character that is that you hate to hate,
Speaker 1: that's often when they take somebody off the show. Loving
Speaker 1: to hate is amazing, you know, Loving to love is amazing,
Speaker 1: but hating to hate. She I believe became that kind
Speaker 1: of character. But at this point I wasn't there yet. Like,
Speaker 1: going back and watching the episode, I wanted to walk
Speaker 1: in and always thought that I had a bad taste
Speaker 1: in my mouth about her, but in this episode, I
Speaker 1: didn't blame her for certain acts Danielle in this episode,
Speaker 1: So I want to get into it. There's a part
Speaker 1: about this in the beginning where I think they don't
Speaker 1: want to hang out with daniel they don't want to
Speaker 1: associate with her, and you don't get that choice on
Speaker 1: reality TV, Like that's that's not there's and cast members
Speaker 1: discussed that, like I'm not hanging out with our math
Speaker 1: filming like that doesn't exist, that's it's false reality. M
Speaker 1: hm No, yeah, I feel like that's happens with us girls.
Speaker 1: You know, we're we're we're having a fight or whatever.
Speaker 1: We just need a minute. We're just like, you know,
Speaker 1: we don't want to see each other, Like I just
Speaker 1: need a breather because I don't want to see something,
Speaker 1: or any of us want to say something that we're
Speaker 1: going to regret, and then it's on TV and then
Speaker 1: everyone's judging us like they don't even know what's happening.
Speaker 1: So we're always like, yeah, let's take a minute from
Speaker 1: filming with each other, and then boom, we're all at
Speaker 1: a dinner and we're all together. When we said no,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna do it. So it's like we don't
Speaker 1: have a choice in that. It's it's our job. It's
Speaker 1: our job to all mingle and hang out and associate
Speaker 1: with each other, even if we do want to break well.
Speaker 1: And that's funny because you're more mature than the Housewives,
Speaker 1: because that's what happened when Lisa vander Pump wouldn't film
Speaker 1: with anybody. Teresa now wouldn't film with Lista, like no
Speaker 1: one really, Yeah, like this is your job because but
Speaker 1: by the same token, back when I was on the
Speaker 1: Housewives and we went to to Scary Island and they
Speaker 1: all went to this photo shoot, I didn't want to
Speaker 1: be around certain people, so I didn't go. And that
Speaker 1: is that's real, So I you could go both ways.
Speaker 1: Being forced to be together yours is different because you're
Speaker 1: literally living in a house together. So that's not real
Speaker 1: to begame. I mean, that's not normal life. Really, if
Speaker 1: you're forced to live in a house with them, you're
Speaker 1: not gonna not hang out. Yeah, but that wasn't the
Speaker 1: case for the wedding, the speech. We weren't We weren't
Speaker 1: living with each other. It was just like kind of
Speaker 1: like housewife style where we get together, you know, we
Speaker 1: go away for like a little trip, we're together, um,
Speaker 1: but that we're all living in you know, our separate houses.
Speaker 1: Like I'm you know, I'm being a mom. Everyone's being
Speaker 1: a mom. So I ended up quitting. I ended up
Speaker 1: quitting for a season because I was like, this ship
Speaker 1: is just too much, like too much drama. Like I
Speaker 1: just love being all about and I know so corny,
Speaker 1: but like I just wanted gonna be fun, positive and
Speaker 1: I just hate fighting with my friends and it just
Speaker 1: really like takes a toll on me. So I literally
Speaker 1: almost had like a mental breakdown where I was like
Speaker 1: I just can't deal with this anymore. So I literally
Speaker 1: put the show for a ear and then I was like, ship,
Speaker 1: like I kind of missed everybody. I think I should
Speaker 1: be okay to like go back into it. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's not easy that the messes up with your psyche
Speaker 1: a little bit. It does mess up either psyche. There
Speaker 1: is a price you pay. I've talked about this. There
Speaker 1: are many housewives on antidepressants. It's a price that you pay,
Speaker 1: is sure. Yeah, it's great, Yeah, you know, and no
Speaker 1: one can understand it until you're in it. Like, and
Speaker 1: I've tried to express that sitting in a scene, you
Speaker 1: know something's either come out or you've said something you
Speaker 1: regret or something, but the train doesn't stop. We're not like, okay, everybody,
Speaker 1: I've just said something or something's been revealed about me,
Speaker 1: but I don't like and I wish I weren't out there.
Speaker 1: Let's all stop and take a cleansing bread. It's like
Speaker 1: the train is still looking, but you're inside your head
Speaker 1: thinking what the funk was that? And now I still
Speaker 1: have to talk normal because I don't want them to
Speaker 1: see me sweat or whatever game you're playing in your head.
Speaker 1: It's intense. Yeah, it's a lot yep um. So that's
Speaker 1: you know. And did you have a feeling about Teresa's house,
Speaker 1: knowing how later her life and Joe's life would unfold
Speaker 1: when you saw that massive house in Jersey? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean back in the day when I watched it, no,
Speaker 1: because I was like, oh my god, this girl is
Speaker 1: such a glamorous life like Borga's house. Watching it now
Speaker 1: about like style wise, it is so old school Jersey
Speaker 1: with like the dark cherry wood and everything and the trim,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, this is so old school,
Speaker 1: which I have some in my house. So but um,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, this is so, like
Speaker 1: you said, outdated when you watch it now. Um, but yeah,
Speaker 1: watching it now and seeing that, I'm like, okay, makes sense.
Speaker 1: Oh you mean the lavish I'm talking about the lavish
Speaker 1: or Nate the giant, massive rooms. It's got to be
Speaker 1: twelve best year and they both went to jail for
Speaker 1: avoiding taxes or whatever. Yeah. Crazy, but like also style
Speaker 1: wise and old and like showy old, right, So that
Speaker 1: that's a typical old school Jersey house to you. Like
Speaker 1: the designs, yes, because when I when I moved into
Speaker 1: my house, I think it was two thousand, two thirteen,
Speaker 1: maybe that was like all I wanted was like the
Speaker 1: dark cherry wood and like the burgundy like drakes and everything, like, yes,
Speaker 1: this house. Well okay, So now we have a scene
Speaker 1: with Danielle and her daughters, and I was moved by
Speaker 1: how pretty they are. Remember that I wanted to look
Speaker 1: at them now because it's crazy to see housewives kids now. Um,
Speaker 1: they all like models, but they seemed like sweet girls.
Speaker 1: It made me a little uncomfortable. We're talking about the
Speaker 1: mom who has a book out that says that she's
Speaker 1: been arrested. Was a prostitute, was you know, on a pole?
Speaker 1: And now the kids are on this show because the
Speaker 1: producers have to have the family on the show. So
Speaker 1: now you have two kids here and she's trying to
Speaker 1: say to them, you know, mom always protects you and
Speaker 1: like I'll always open for you. And I'm just uncomfortable
Speaker 1: about that line with kids and like this adult storyline.
Speaker 1: What do you think about that? Yeah, so I feel
Speaker 1: like for myself, I'm I try and distance my kids
Speaker 1: on the show just because there is drama. There's stuff
Speaker 1: that's like not appropriate for my kids to know right now.
Speaker 1: My oldest is ten, Giovanna's eight, and my youngest is three.
Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, I like to show the
Speaker 1: mommy side of me on the show and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: but it's like strictly like mom, like I'm your mom.
Speaker 1: That's it, like more of like parenting. Um, I don't
Speaker 1: only have like best friend talks with them yet, and
Speaker 1: if I do, it's definitely not going to be on
Speaker 1: the show. They're not going to know about the show.
Speaker 1: I tell the mom, he's an actress. So anything that
Speaker 1: you see that's wrong or I'm doing bad on TikTok,
Speaker 1: it's not real even though it is, because you know,
Speaker 1: I like to drinker wine, but m yeah, I like
Speaker 1: to like draw a line there when it comes to reality.
Speaker 1: My kids and you know the show How Old Are
Speaker 1: Your Kids? Lorenzo's ten, Giovanna's eight, and then Angelo's three. Okay,
Speaker 1: so yeah, it's it's not that far away from the
Speaker 1: ages that these girls are there and the moms talking
Speaker 1: to them, and they look uncomfortable. They look uncomfortable too,
Speaker 1: and the kids were in what's different in this episode
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen as much later? Well, first of all,
Speaker 1: Jersey is more of a family show, even more than
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills with sisters. But Jerseys, like the husband, the
Speaker 1: kids like, it's more of a family show. The kids
Speaker 1: are in the interview chair in this episode, which I
Speaker 1: thought was interesting. Um, that's that's not that common. Um.
Speaker 1: A big part of The Housewives is outing people to
Speaker 1: just be like you were stripper. That feels like it's
Speaker 1: just degrading and and and and holier than that. With
Speaker 1: with all the things that happened to so many housewives
Speaker 1: and going to jail and all these crazy things that happened,
Speaker 1: it does is a lesson for people to not really
Speaker 1: judge someone else's shoes. Yeah, and that's why I can
Speaker 1: never do the show, because like, I feel like, you've
Speaker 1: never done anything that bad, and you know, I feel
Speaker 1: like I don't have bad skeletons, but like if someone
Speaker 1: if I did, and someone were to dig that up
Speaker 1: and just come at me one day, no warning and
Speaker 1: say boom, I would literally I would be devastated. So
Speaker 1: I feel like that's why everyone loves the show though,
Speaker 1: because that's the only show that that happens on I
Speaker 1: feel I mean, I feel like other shows they try
Speaker 1: and mimic that, and you can tell scripted. I can
Speaker 1: watch reality, you can tell like that seems fake, that
Speaker 1: seems fake. But with Housewives, when that happens, I just
Speaker 1: feel like it's so iconic of Housewives. Like that's why
Speaker 1: people love the show. Unfortunately. I mean, it's bad for
Speaker 1: you guys, but it's great. Well no more, but it
Speaker 1: start off for me anymore. Right, It's it's someone has
Speaker 1: to always be winning and someone losing, and you just
Speaker 1: hunger hunger games because you don't know if if the
Speaker 1: arrows in your back, you're not sure you were somebody
Speaker 1: else terrifying. Yeah, So Jacqueline, you know, is my version
Speaker 1: of us to someone who seems like a really sweet
Speaker 1: girl but not but like she's sort of like a
Speaker 1: connect to tissue under the radar housewife, which is probably
Speaker 1: why she wasn't on for that many years because she's
Speaker 1: sweet and nice and many people I like personally, but
Speaker 1: I can see when they're just not that they're not
Speaker 1: moving that much story around. They're just like a really
Speaker 1: sweet housewife. But in this episode she kind of had
Speaker 1: a moment. She had a big moment at the at
Speaker 1: the end dinner with Danielle. So she's so Jacqueline is
Speaker 1: married to Caroline and Dina's brother. So it's so stupid.
Speaker 1: I literally just realized that in this episode, like I
Speaker 1: watched it before and I'm like, wait, their family, Like
Speaker 1: how did I not know this? Right? So Caroline and
Speaker 1: Dina are siblings, and so is Jacqueline's husband. So Jacqueline's
Speaker 1: friends with daniel And by the way, Disaster, you said
Speaker 1: you wouldn't want to do a housewives, what about doing
Speaker 1: with your family? No, because like my friends are like
Speaker 1: my family, and my family is obviously my family. I
Speaker 1: would be porn. I don't know how she did that,
Speaker 1: Like there's no good by the way that many I
Speaker 1: don't speak. I don't know if if Caroline speaks to
Speaker 1: Dina anymore. I don't like families divided by the show,
Speaker 1: for sure, families divided. So so we'll get back to
Speaker 1: the dinner after. So Jacqueline's daughter, this is about parenting
Speaker 1: and being strict. Are you strict or are you loose?
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm in between because my parents were
Speaker 1: really strict and I kind of rebelled a little bit.
Speaker 1: So I want to enforce the rules and do that,
Speaker 1: but not too strict. So I want to be a
Speaker 1: cool mom. But like were like, you're crossing me. So
Speaker 1: Jacqueline's parents, who seemed very relatable, aren't here for that.
Speaker 1: And then Jacqueline walks in and is calling her daughter,
Speaker 1: and she's on the phone and gives a little bit
Speaker 1: of an attitude to get off the phone, like they're
Speaker 1: calling her to give her the car, and she's giving
Speaker 1: a little I would have pulled it. I would have
Speaker 1: pulled it. I wouldn't have done it. Same would be
Speaker 1: like screw it. I would have just said give me
Speaker 1: the phone and not even say anything about the car.
Speaker 1: Put it back in the garage, I probably would have said,
Speaker 1: give me the phone, look out the window. That's what
Speaker 1: you're not getting. Here's your you know. I mean I
Speaker 1: would have been in petty, yeah, patty, because here's the
Speaker 1: thing with me, I'm not there's never any reason for
Speaker 1: me to be big picture strict because it doesn't get
Speaker 1: to that. It's like you know how your house is
Speaker 1: clean and you clean it as you go, like you're
Speaker 1: not you have a bomb didn't go off on your
Speaker 1: house one day. So with my daughter, if she even
Speaker 1: you know, I see kids the way they speak to
Speaker 1: their parents at the mall or something, just the snapping
Speaker 1: back just what like I see it at my daughter's school,
Speaker 1: like no, why Like if my daughter if she said,
Speaker 1: if she just did what I just did to me,
Speaker 1: just like the simplest thing like oh bring come up, mom, No,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, you excuse yourself? Ever speak to So
Speaker 1: that little moment on the couch when she was still
Speaker 1: on the phone like ignoring and had a little attitude,
Speaker 1: that would have been all I needed to Like, that
Speaker 1: would have been it to snap the collar would have
Speaker 1: been like nope, yeah, I feel like but if I so,
Speaker 1: if this was Giovanna, because you know, girl, she's already
Speaker 1: getting an attitude. She's eight years old old. Like she's
Speaker 1: just like me, but just I don't know, like worse,
Speaker 1: and I always know people say that and like be prepared.
Speaker 1: I'm like okay, and then I'm like, wait, they weren't kidding.
Speaker 1: So I just feel like she just gets nasty and
Speaker 1: like she could be the sweetest girl in the world
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden just snap and be
Speaker 1: mean and write me these mean notes like I don't
Speaker 1: like you anymore, mom, And you're like, she could get yeah,
Speaker 1: and we haven't. Well you must not, yeah, but you
Speaker 1: must not be really checking at each time, so she
Speaker 1: knows to be slightly afraid of you. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: take everything away. And then she starts writing me love
Speaker 1: notes and everything. So I mean girls aren't easy. I mean,
Speaker 1: like boys, yes, they're hard, but I feel like girls
Speaker 1: just touch you in that certain way where they where
Speaker 1: they just really really get under your skin. And she
Speaker 1: knows how, and I just that's why I like my wine.
Speaker 1: She makes me drink wine. It was funny you watch
Speaker 1: them go in and act like botox was this crazy
Speaker 1: innovative thing, like the parents are talking to Jacqueline about
Speaker 1: her getting botox, and you know, they definitely don't agree,
Speaker 1: and getting botox is like getting your teeth clean now
Speaker 1: on the Housewives. Yeah, like back then, I was thinking,
Speaker 1: it's not like a big deality of book talks and
Speaker 1: two thousand nine, like, was that was that like not
Speaker 1: a thing? Well, I'm sure it was a thing, but
Speaker 1: all of us. I mean, I was in my thirties,
Speaker 1: which is not being your fifties or forties, and so
Speaker 1: I for me definitely wasn't doing botox And if someone
Speaker 1: had suggested that would have been like, oh, I don't
Speaker 1: need that because I'm you know, I was a little
Speaker 1: bit of late bloomer with anything like that. And then
Speaker 1: also not having money, and a lot of these women
Speaker 1: are nuance shows, like they're not living that glam world,
Speaker 1: you know, wardrobe and things like that. So I think maybe, yeah,
Speaker 1: living in the suburbs of Jersey at that time and
Speaker 1: your thirties, maybe you're just not thinking about botox yet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm doing it. Yeah, I get it too,
Speaker 1: And now it's become more common, But I guess that's
Speaker 1: just a sign of the times. It's we're talking about
Speaker 1: thirteen years ago, fourteen years ago. Yeah, so I could see,
Speaker 1: like her mom being worried, it's poison in your brain,
Speaker 1: you might die. And then um, Dina, who I can't help.
Speaker 1: But like, by the way, I think she's one of
Speaker 1: the I say, it's fewer than five housewives that have
Speaker 1: actually really truly left on their own and up and fired,
Speaker 1: and that's a very close number. And I think Dina
Speaker 1: is one of them. And I like her. There's just
Speaker 1: a nice, sweet vibe about her. I like her, and um,
Speaker 1: I also like this not modern conversation that she's having
Speaker 1: about wanting to be a stay at home mom. I mean,
Speaker 1: I feel like I relate to that. It doesn't matter
Speaker 1: what it's nineteen sixty five. Like, you know how much
Speaker 1: time you have with your kids. You know that they're
Speaker 1: not getting any younger. You know that this thing that
Speaker 1: happened at thirteen isn't the same thing that happens at fourteen.
Speaker 1: You know, was with my daughter's school yesterday there in
Speaker 1: bought mitsa season where it's a nightclub every Saturday. Someone's
Speaker 1: bought Mitzvah bar Mitzvah, and the fourteen year old boys
Speaker 1: were saying, well, next year we'll just be going to
Speaker 1: house parties, people's houses. I felt like we taken out
Speaker 1: a whip, Like what next year? So last year, you know,
Speaker 1: it was baby talk. So I like someone who just
Speaker 1: wants to be home and not miss any of that.
Speaker 1: Like I get that a lot. I am that in
Speaker 1: many ways. Yeah, I feel like with my job and
Speaker 1: traveling and firming here and there, um, a lot of
Speaker 1: people take their kids and I just don't have that
Speaker 1: luxury because they're in sports, they're in school. I can't.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna pull them, so like I'm being selfish
Speaker 1: and like I see them, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So I only give like three days maximum away from
Speaker 1: the kids. Like I just I love being home. Like,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. I love working. I love filming
Speaker 1: and doing all of that. But that's like my second love,
Speaker 1: like obviously my first love as my kids. So I
Speaker 1: love being home. I love you know, cleaning the house
Speaker 1: and like making dinner for my kids, driving them to sports,
Speaker 1: Like I'm I'm going to get my daughter at a
Speaker 1: cheer right after this, dropping myself off my breast sling.
Speaker 1: So like that's that's that's my happy places, being a mom,
Speaker 1: being with my kids, and like, you know, just everybody
Speaker 1: safe in my house and I have a glass of
Speaker 1: wine and I watched my Netflix exactly I got got it.
Speaker 1: I like I like it to know. I like it
Speaker 1: as a truth and for me too, it comes first
Speaker 1: and everything revolves around it. And that's the end of
Speaker 1: the story. Um, the stuffed animal situation. I mean, I
Speaker 1: I have massive organizational issues like I have. I'm the
Speaker 1: most psychotic organized person. To another level, to another level.
Speaker 1: That was that was an episode of Hoarders. I've never
Speaker 1: seen it. The candy in the drawer. I was like,
Speaker 1: They're gonna be mice in there. I was like my
Speaker 1: house panicking. There had to be a ton of spiders
Speaker 1: under that bed with all the stuffed animals. I and
Speaker 1: I wanted them to make that big stuffed animal chair.
Speaker 1: You've seen that chair. They're like they take all the
Speaker 1: stuffed animals, stick them together and like you attach them
Speaker 1: to So I just wanted them to do that, but
Speaker 1: they did not do that. Um, And oh my god,
Speaker 1: the dog is so like scary Jersey like security dog,
Speaker 1: a German Shepherd, the German Shepherd airline dog. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: we just adopted a dog two months ago because my
Speaker 1: my kids have been dying for a dog, and I
Speaker 1: was like, Lorenzo in your tent, we'll think about it.
Speaker 1: And then I just did it, adopted a little sheep.
Speaker 1: Who um. But my husband always wanted a German Shepherd.
Speaker 1: He's like, we're going to get a dog. We're getting
Speaker 1: a German Shepherd. And I'm just like I'm not ready
Speaker 1: for that. Like let's start. Let's start with a with
Speaker 1: a little you know, with a little doggie, and then
Speaker 1: if you know, we do good, then we'll get another one. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: German shepherd's. Everybody here wants a German Shepherd. Oh really,
Speaker 1: that's like a thing. That's a hilari thing. That's hilarious. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's like a serious dog. Gorgeous animals, but like that's
Speaker 1: a very serious I love them, but it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's a lot. Um. Okay, So we're getting close to
Speaker 1: to to the to the meat of the matter. I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to do some for a play. Um, let's
Speaker 1: get to the restaurant. We're at the restaurant, so there
Speaker 1: are kids at the table. I just don't think the
Speaker 1: first time around, I really realized how much there are
Speaker 1: kids at the table. And how much hypocrisy is gonna
Speaker 1: go down. This should have been called the hypocrisy episode. Okay,
Speaker 1: so the parents are there, the kids are there, and
Speaker 1: now we're talking about Teresa's boobs, vagina and how much
Speaker 1: he wants to have sex and he's trying to have
Speaker 1: sex with the right after surgery. It's making me sick,
Speaker 1: like I don't want that thought, you know, you know
Speaker 1: it and if you had a c section or after
Speaker 1: you had your kids, like you have to wait six weeks,
Speaker 1: but the thought of it is not like leaving a
Speaker 1: breast surgery and he's trying to have sex with her,
Speaker 1: like put him in jail. Then I would have died
Speaker 1: because I got my bovie son, and I remember leaving
Speaker 1: and I was just hysterically crying in pain, like so
Speaker 1: much pressure. But talking about the kids me as a mom,
Speaker 1: like you know, thinking, Okay, I'm filming with my roomies.
Speaker 1: I know ship's gonna go down. I would not bring
Speaker 1: my kids because I knew, you know, knowing that I'm
Speaker 1: inviting someone that I have an issue with and we're
Speaker 1: drinking ship mean and wine, like she's gonna go down.
Speaker 1: So I don't know why they broke their kids know.
Speaker 1: And earlier in the episode, Dina was talking about her
Speaker 1: I have a twelve year old So Dina's daughter is twelve,
Speaker 1: and Dina is talking about Lexi's boobs at the table, Brinton,
Speaker 1: I mean, if I do it, If I did in
Speaker 1: front of my assistants, who are girls who were twenty
Speaker 1: four years old, and my daughter are doors and her
Speaker 1: like sisters star up I heard her boobs in front
Speaker 1: of one of them, she'd be so upset. I cannot
Speaker 1: imagine on television talking about my daughter getting breasts like
Speaker 1: that's they like, they do not want to talk about
Speaker 1: their period, getting breast. It is not something to bring
Speaker 1: up on camera. Yeah, that was oh my god, Oh
Speaker 1: my god. Um. And at the dinner, I noticed that
Speaker 1: like Albi and Chris, I think they're laughing really hard
Speaker 1: at like the Joe's sex conversation, and I'm just like
Speaker 1: feeling a little bit of misogyny. You know, there's always
Speaker 1: that person who's like a little bit of an animal,
Speaker 1: and the younger guys like look up to that person
Speaker 1: for the wrong reason. So they're talking about sex and
Speaker 1: all the wrong things and so many appropriate in appropriate
Speaker 1: things and the sun even though they're in their nineteen
Speaker 1: eighteen It's just like it's not appropriate that they're like loving,
Speaker 1: they're listening to their parents friends talk about having sex, like,
Speaker 1: it's just not right to me. Well, even Joe was
Speaker 1: asking the boys like, is your mom's boobs real? Like
Speaker 1: if someone said that, so you feel like, what, like,
Speaker 1: why about my mom's books? Oh my god, I think
Speaker 1: I noticed that, but like yeah, yeah, wow, are you sure? Okay,
Speaker 1: So the most staged thing is obviously Danielle just taking
Speaker 1: the book out. Oh my god. Yea. The brucer said
Speaker 1: it's time and she took it out right, it's and
Speaker 1: having it and the whole thing right right. Totally dramatic. Um,
Speaker 1: But I give her cry it for cutting it off
Speaker 1: at the past. So I did respect that move then.
Speaker 1: I just don't think back then I did. I respected
Speaker 1: it as a move. Yeah. I also loved the fact
Speaker 1: that she was just honest and she wanted and she
Speaker 1: was She wasn't screaming at first. She was just like
Speaker 1: being honest and just talking getting her feelings out. Then
Speaker 1: she got interrupted. It was just like a snowball effect.
Speaker 1: But I love the fact that she was like just
Speaker 1: kind of just talking in a normal voice and saying, listen,
Speaker 1: I just want to talk this out. Here's what it is.
Speaker 1: And I kind of I respected her how to how
Speaker 1: she brought it up, so it's like, well, I'm very
Speaker 1: classy of her, by the way, but I don't think
Speaker 1: the audience and I felt this way when it first
Speaker 1: aired years ago. I don't know why. I think we
Speaker 1: were more um prudish or we thought someone who because
Speaker 1: back then, like everybody didn't have a book, everyone didn't
Speaker 1: write everything. Everything was in page six back then, like
Speaker 1: a book coming out with the housewife in it about
Speaker 1: the person's past was very salicious, like Alex's nude pictures.
Speaker 1: Who cares? That would be a Tuesday now. So I
Speaker 1: think that when watching and I want someone to like,
Speaker 1: I want to check on this, but the listeners will know.
Speaker 1: I think that Danielle was more judged than the way
Speaker 1: that we both respected it. So I had the same
Speaker 1: take as you. I thought they are judging her. And
Speaker 1: she's saying it was ninety. I don't know how many
Speaker 1: years ago. She's saying it was twenty nineteen years so
Speaker 1: it's nineteen. What the hell ninety? Someone said to me recently, Oh,
Speaker 1: you're failed talk show which by the way, I didn't
Speaker 1: love doing and that was literally over your show. Oh
Speaker 1: thank you. I was going through a terrible divorce and
Speaker 1: it's just not my genre. But someone said it to me,
Speaker 1: and I thought, what was your hairstyle like over ten
Speaker 1: years ago? Like, I mean, yours was similar, but but
Speaker 1: other people, you know, you know, you had you had
Speaker 1: you had half up and half down like you do now,
Speaker 1: but you didn't. You don't mean it's kind of the same,
Speaker 1: but you don't have the poof but um, but yeah,
Speaker 1: like to be so sad, demonious and judgmental and come
Speaker 1: in and talk about what someone did nineteen years ago.
Speaker 1: So she's coming in and saying, Hi, two things are true,
Speaker 1: two truths and a lie. They should have called the
Speaker 1: episode two truths and a lie. She's it's two truths
Speaker 1: and one. I was not a prostitute. So now Teresa
Speaker 1: gets a little sanctimonious a us knowing that later she
Speaker 1: would be arrested. So the thing that she's coming after
Speaker 1: Danielle about in this book is that you know, cop
Speaker 1: of that badge I think it's called, is that she
Speaker 1: was arrested. And also Teresa, who's just been talking about
Speaker 1: her store vagina is now say you were a stripper, well,
Speaker 1: judging that you were a stripper, yeah, And also I
Speaker 1: don't want my kids around this. You would just talk
Speaker 1: about the conversation. Yeah, you know what I mean. No, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I can't. I feel like for me, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't judge anyone's past because it is what it is.
Speaker 1: And for that to be what was it you said
Speaker 1: nineteen years ago? I think it was twenty five years ago.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. And they're they're they're all like, I
Speaker 1: can't believe you did that, Like it's twenty five years ago.
Speaker 1: I feel like they didn't have anything else to talk about,
Speaker 1: so they had to talk about that, right, And she
Speaker 1: changed her name. But if you had gotten arrested twenty
Speaker 1: five years ago, you might change your name. So no
Speaker 1: one judged you by that, which justly what was happening. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, well I did get arrested, but it was
Speaker 1: it wasn't not bad, right, well, you know, but he
Speaker 1: conducts not Yeah no, no, we did just a little
Speaker 1: just a little d c um. Yeah, but I think
Speaker 1: her thing was more serious. And you know, that's the
Speaker 1: that's the risk you take to going on a show
Speaker 1: when you have kids that are gonna watch this and
Speaker 1: like they're gonna have to drect this up to they
Speaker 1: probably didn't know about this. It's it's you pay a price,
Speaker 1: mm hmm um. But so I was l O L
Speaker 1: and when she's like I don't want this in front
Speaker 1: of my kids, like that became the holier than that.
Speaker 1: That's hypocrisy. Um. I noticed Caroline, you know, acting like
Speaker 1: she's the boss of every scary Yeah, she's like the
Speaker 1: mom like stop it. I know she's intimidating. She I
Speaker 1: always thought she was intimidating, but you know, like in
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's I want to say, like
Speaker 1: a boss way, but then sometimes it's just like like
Speaker 1: taking over, you know, like we're all adults here. You
Speaker 1: don't need to mommy me a little bit. And I
Speaker 1: feel like that's that's how she was coming off in
Speaker 1: that argument with all the girls. Oh, I would have
Speaker 1: been I would have been like, I wouldn't have allowed that,
Speaker 1: Like I don't I don't do that, like you're not
Speaker 1: we're all at the same table. I would have been like,
Speaker 1: what do you like the moderator? I would have been
Speaker 1: all over that. I realized that now I would have
Speaker 1: been like, take it easy. Is the Supreme Court hearings relaxed?
Speaker 1: Judge you, So I would have fully been like absolutely not.
Speaker 1: But um yeah, I just just thinking like, no one,
Speaker 1: everyone doesn't deserve to know. Tell me every skeleton in
Speaker 1: your closet, Like everyone we're at a dinner, that is
Speaker 1: to like, for someone to explain themselves about their past
Speaker 1: over a quarter or a century ago, it just felt like,
Speaker 1: who the funk are you'd asked me about my past?
Speaker 1: Like what happened? You know what I mean, Like I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It hit me sideways where it didn't
Speaker 1: back then. M h. And I like to reset a lot.
Speaker 1: But I did think it was interesting. People in glass houses,
Speaker 1: people in glass Jersey overly designed houses. That's why I
Speaker 1: don't judge, Just just do you keep keep doing you
Speaker 1: no judge. And Caroline said it was interesting, the tricky
Speaker 1: little bit between Caroline and Dina, where Danielle kept going
Speaker 1: after Dina and finally Caroline says it was her. I
Speaker 1: have no idea if that's even true. It seemed like
Speaker 1: it was a half true. It seemed like there was
Speaker 1: something going on on the side, but like I don't know,
Speaker 1: but Caroline. Then the moderator is telling Danielle like, if
Speaker 1: you're going to attack my sister, which she absolutely didn't
Speaker 1: attack any funny. Oh yes, she was saying her piece.
Speaker 1: I just was gonna say she said, yeah, she was
Speaker 1: trying to resolve it. Um. But I definitely feel like
Speaker 1: she was trying to save her sister there and she
Speaker 1: was like it was me, come to me, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, oh she she scares me that in
Speaker 1: that scene out scared. No, No, that was a distortion
Speaker 1: of reality. Nobody attacked anybody. Okay. So now Jacqueline jumps in,
Speaker 1: and you gotta give her credit because she stays quiet
Speaker 1: most of the show overall, and this is when she
Speaker 1: decided to get in right in the middle of the lions. Dan.
Speaker 1: Someone must have been like, get your ass in there, uh,
Speaker 1: and she says, well, well, Dina called her out. You know.
Speaker 1: It was like, Jacqueline, you have say something like you
Speaker 1: were there, like say what happened? And then I feel
Speaker 1: like she got fluster because you could tell she did
Speaker 1: not want to be involved at all, like she just
Speaker 1: wanted to watch what went down. She you know, she
Speaker 1: wants to be cool with everybody. That's her family, that's
Speaker 1: her good friend. Like she just didn't want to be involved.
Speaker 1: I think it was nice that she was, because somebody
Speaker 1: had to stick up for the girl, you know, just
Speaker 1: saying you know, she's trying to she's trying to talk
Speaker 1: this out or whatever. Um. But she got a little
Speaker 1: heated with her sister in laws. So it's like, oh damn,
Speaker 1: Like if that were me and my sister in laws, like, oh,
Speaker 1: I would do sleep because I love my sister in laws.
Speaker 1: That was That was her getting in deeper than she thought.
Speaker 1: But apparently daniel was on an island on her own
Speaker 1: and I did not remember the DNA prodd and Jacqueline
Speaker 1: to get involved. She was probably like, dude, somebody's got
Speaker 1: to help me here. And then Rocklyn did, and you
Speaker 1: saw Danielle say thank you, and then the sisters were
Speaker 1: not happy. Like but it did seem a little fifty
Speaker 1: shades of truth because it was like I didn't bring
Speaker 1: it the book, and then you felt Dina like a
Speaker 1: kind of brought it or showed it on a computer
Speaker 1: like it was they had been sort of caught a
Speaker 1: little bit in something. I can't explain exactly what, but
Speaker 1: they definitely were in the mix of moving this story
Speaker 1: around the town. Yeah. I mean, at that point, if
Speaker 1: you're talking about it and you're this far in the
Speaker 1: conversation and it's already getting heated, just say what she did,
Speaker 1: get it over with, and then move on. So I
Speaker 1: feel like eventually they were like, yeah, it was me.
Speaker 1: I brought it up, And I feel Likedina even said
Speaker 1: it before she left. She was just like, you know,
Speaker 1: was I happy that this happened, because you know, we're
Speaker 1: not in good terms. Yes, So I was like, I
Speaker 1: was kind of happy that she was like honest about it,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah she I mean, listen, there are red flags,
Speaker 1: but we're not judging. I think, did I imagine this
Speaker 1: or did you? Oh did Theresa talk about skeletons? So
Speaker 1: I think Theresa said I have no skeleton to my closet.
Speaker 1: Yeah she did. Yeah, that's that did not age. Well,
Speaker 1: that's funny. She said, I have no skelet into my
Speaker 1: closet except tax Yeah, tax of Asian. Interesting. Maybe that's
Speaker 1: why she got so heated and she flipped the table
Speaker 1: because she knew, wow, look at that. Wow, doctor snooky
Speaker 1: dcor snooky regular here. Yeah, and then she says something
Speaker 1: to Danielle and Danielle Danielle a couple of good nights.
Speaker 1: She's like, pay attention please, Like I like that, and
Speaker 1: then she later said something like, sweetie, the feeling is mutual.
Speaker 1: There was something there was something about that where she
Speaker 1: was like, the feeling is mutual. Um, yeah, well that's
Speaker 1: what got her going. That's what got her going. Dna
Speaker 1: copped and then said, I'm going to pray for you.
Speaker 1: That is so passive aggressive. Oh that hurts. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: is that is so passive aggressive. And Chris stops the
Speaker 1: whole thing. I like how we did that? And he
Speaker 1: was just like, you are acting children like relax, like
Speaker 1: we're all the families supposed to be a nice dinner.
Speaker 1: I mean sometimes you need that, especially with a group
Speaker 1: of women that you know there's always gonna be drama,
Speaker 1: especially all of them. It was nice with the fact
Speaker 1: that he said that to like kind of bring it
Speaker 1: down to be like what are we doing? But also
Speaker 1: you know, I'm still not over it, right, and he
Speaker 1: he was like, Danielle's welcome in my home. And that's
Speaker 1: what happens with housewives. So here's the problem. You become
Speaker 1: friends with people you wouldn't necessarily become friends with, and
Speaker 1: then you're introducing them to your kids and your family
Speaker 1: and they're in your house, and then the next month
Speaker 1: you're not speaking to them, and the people around you
Speaker 1: don't understand, and it's like, it's for the show, but
Speaker 1: it's like not you think it's real. It's not technically
Speaker 1: for the show. I mean, it's technically for the show,
Speaker 1: but you think it's real. Like you think this is
Speaker 1: a friendship, but it's I have really good, sustainable relationships
Speaker 1: built on the Housewives. It's just it's not it's not
Speaker 1: absolutely unheard of, but it's fairly impossible. So are you
Speaker 1: still good friends with everyone from your season? Well, I
Speaker 1: was never good friends with anyone because I always sort
Speaker 1: of knew what this was. I was good friends with Jill,
Speaker 1: and that was a very public fallout we met on
Speaker 1: the show, and then there was a fout on the show.
Speaker 1: I was friends, i'd say, not as close, but very
Speaker 1: good friends of Direnda, and I message with Dorenda, and
Speaker 1: I respect, I like Dorenda. But there are friendships that
Speaker 1: I haven't maintained kind of because of the show. When
Speaker 1: you're friends of people that are on the show, and
Speaker 1: you're not on the show, it becomes something that you're
Speaker 1: kind of always talking about. So if you've just left
Speaker 1: the show, you're always talking about it because you sort
Speaker 1: of like are checking them with your ex boyfriend to
Speaker 1: see like what's going on and who they're dating, and
Speaker 1: like you kind of want to know what's going on
Speaker 1: because you were so clear, like you have SOMA, You're like,
Speaker 1: what's going on? Kind of well, once you realize that
Speaker 1: that is not your world at all, once it rinses,
Speaker 1: like you know, and you don't think about your acts anymore.
Speaker 1: I never think about that. It's ironic because I'm on
Speaker 1: doing this show, but I never think about like my
Speaker 1: participation in the house Wives anymore. I watched from a
Speaker 1: far Lenger fan, which is great, So that's good. You
Speaker 1: got totally not over that. But then when you talk
Speaker 1: to people who are still on or want to be on,
Speaker 1: which Torenda does, it's all that's talked about, and you
Speaker 1: really don't want to talk about it anymore. You don't
Speaker 1: want to hear about it. And it's one of the
Speaker 1: things that when Kyle was Kyle and I knew each
Speaker 1: other for years normal life, and when she was going
Speaker 1: on I was leaving, and I just it just becomes
Speaker 1: something that's all people are talking about. You're talking about
Speaker 1: your gossip, and you talking about other casts angling. Everyone's
Speaker 1: always angling and telling stories, and like they all think
Speaker 1: it's real. It is real for them, So it's hard
Speaker 1: to maintain friendships. I call Sonya every once in a
Speaker 1: while just to say, how are you in? Happy holidays?
Speaker 1: But then she'll get into the show and this one's
Speaker 1: off and this one's on and this is and I
Speaker 1: just don't care that much, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, you moved on, which is nice, yes,
Speaker 1: you know, it's bigger things, right, Like it's like if
Speaker 1: you're still talking to you know, all the people that
Speaker 1: were in your kindergarten, the parents in your kindergarten class,
Speaker 1: you're probably not you have something in common at that
Speaker 1: time with that class. You're not talking about parents. So
Speaker 1: that's what how that is? All right? So let's talk
Speaker 1: about the main event, though, which is the table flip?
Speaker 1: What do you think? I don't know why I felt
Speaker 1: like back then it was more crazy, Like looking at
Speaker 1: it now, I'm like, oh, this is just like an
Speaker 1: everyday scene, you know what I mean, because with reality
Speaker 1: and like us and I don't just housewives in general.
Speaker 1: I mean that that happens all the time now, But
Speaker 1: back then it was like, oh my god, like what
Speaker 1: is happening and me, me being a freaking mom, like
Speaker 1: an old person, I'm like, oh my god, all the
Speaker 1: food on its able to They apologize to the owner
Speaker 1: of the restaurant, Like that's what I'm thinking now, Like,
Speaker 1: holy sh it, Well it's funny you say that because
Speaker 1: I thought so too, Like the table didn't flip over,
Speaker 1: like she pushed the table, and the episode overall, it's
Speaker 1: funny because choosing it, it was like I'm choosing iconic episodes,
Speaker 1: and the whole episode wasn't the most iconic. It was
Speaker 1: just that scene that made it. It was Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was like boring, that boring, but it was like different
Speaker 1: scenes that scene. But yeah, she pushed the table. But
Speaker 1: like if that happened with you at a restaurant in
Speaker 1: your real life, that would be jarring. But I understand
Speaker 1: what you're saying, Like Ramona threw a glass at somebody
Speaker 1: Lisa Arena and this one through like people have ripped
Speaker 1: weaves of Eva through a leg like and it is
Speaker 1: staged it's not like Teresa has ever done that before.
Speaker 1: She you know that reality TV is like you've added
Speaker 1: alcohol and like just taken into by it by five
Speaker 1: whatever you would normally do, I'd say multiply it by five. Yeah,
Speaker 1: or or because like if you're on a reality show
Speaker 1: with some of the kids that you pick up and
Speaker 1: drop off, you might say to the person, what were
Speaker 1: you think of when you put that outfit on? But
Speaker 1: you don't say that to the people that pick up
Speaker 1: and drop off because they're not on a reality show
Speaker 1: with you, and you didn't do this unwritten contract with
Speaker 1: them that we're all going to just say what we
Speaker 1: feel and do what comes to mind. And that's why
Speaker 1: it's like the housewives are like gremlins. You add alcohol
Speaker 1: and the cameras and they go crazy. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: we call each other gremlins. I was like, when we drank,
Speaker 1: we are all gremlins, were zoo creatures, were just like
Speaker 1: crazy people. And then we wake up the next day
Speaker 1: and we have to deal with build this drama and
Speaker 1: we're all hungover, and we're like, oh, like can we
Speaker 1: just take a beat? Yeah, we for each other gremlins.
Speaker 1: That's funny, right, So and then just shows their relationship.
Speaker 1: She's just what the table she goes over and you
Speaker 1: could tell like Joe liked it a little. That's an
Speaker 1: Italian husband liked it Like he's like yeah, and she's like,
Speaker 1: I love you and like it's normal. Yeah it's but
Speaker 1: then I love, I loved, I loved. At the end,
Speaker 1: she was like I never acted like this, like I've
Speaker 1: never done this before. Oh my batch, come on, I right.
Speaker 1: And also she's an iconic housewife. Yes, when I think
Speaker 1: of housewife, she's like the number one that I always
Speaker 1: think of Teresa. Yeah, she's on my might have a
Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore and so far she and Nini are on
Speaker 1: my Mount Rushmore. Well, well deserved. Yeah, I need to
Speaker 1: pick the last two. Um, all right, well is there
Speaker 1: what were your what was your high? What was your low?
Speaker 1: Who won the episode for you and who lost the
Speaker 1: episode for you? I want to see Asay won the
Speaker 1: episode for me. Surprisingly Danielle, I was like I really
Speaker 1: respected her and I feel she's a good mom in
Speaker 1: this episode, you know, like she's she's just being a
Speaker 1: good mom, She's good to the girls. Um. The low,
Speaker 1: I don't know to say. I felt that for Jacqueline
Speaker 1: because she got pushed into all that, and I feel
Speaker 1: like she's such a nice person and she just wants
Speaker 1: to be friends with everybody, wants to have peace, and
Speaker 1: then she got you know, thrown into that and then she,
Speaker 1: you know, she got upset. That made me upset because
Speaker 1: I feel like we kind of have the same personality
Speaker 1: in that episode because I hate being thrown and ship.
Speaker 1: But then when I am, I get crazy. So so yeah,
Speaker 1: I related to her, but I don't know. I feel
Speaker 1: like the table flip was so iconic to me, and
Speaker 1: then when I watched it again, like knowing I've done
Speaker 1: all this reality and watching all reality, I'm just like,
Speaker 1: that was it. I think, like, you know when you
Speaker 1: go with your high school, same way you know when
Speaker 1: you go to your high school and in that moment
Speaker 1: in high school, it's a huge high school. It's just
Speaker 1: like so big, and then you go with your kids
Speaker 1: and it's like this is the high school. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's That's kind of how I felt with it. That's
Speaker 1: how I felt it. Love it. So I loved it.
Speaker 1: Loved it. Yeah, and it started, well, what's funny is
Speaker 1: my scene with Kelly when she based sickly says this
Speaker 1: is me, this is you, and it's like I'm up here,
Speaker 1: you're down here. I thing people thought it was the
Speaker 1: craziest scene. It was because it was mental warfare. It
Speaker 1: wasn't physical, it wasn't throwing something, but it was basically
Speaker 1: saying you're a loser and I'm a winner. And it
Speaker 1: just it provoked every single girl at every single school
Speaker 1: table that's not sitting at the cool table for lunch,
Speaker 1: and it just did something. And this table flip was
Speaker 1: a moment like that where just there's something about it
Speaker 1: just struck everybody. Um. But I think in going back,
Speaker 1: Teresa was celebrated for the table flip and Danielle seems
Speaker 1: like she was shamed for the book. And I think
Speaker 1: now watching it back, being a mother and all these
Speaker 1: other boring things that we're talking about, Danielle, Danielle stood
Speaker 1: up for herself and and just explained to herself where
Speaker 1: she didn't have to. And Teresa was talking about a
Speaker 1: vagina and flipped the table in front of her kids
Speaker 1: and then yelled at her for being a stripper and prostitute. Right,
Speaker 1: So you know, we as parents lead by example, so
Speaker 1: they do everything we do. There's no world where you
Speaker 1: would want your children to think that flipping a table
Speaker 1: would be condoned. No, And I feel like I've never
Speaker 1: done that. I said, no, I want through drink on
Speaker 1: the wrong people. I mean, oh yeah, I've done that,
Speaker 1: but like flip the table, that's the what's the worst
Speaker 1: thing you've ever done? The probably through a drink in
Speaker 1: somebody's face or the liquid or the glass. Oh no,
Speaker 1: not the glass. I mean that was good, yeah, or
Speaker 1: through shrimp and Angela and his hair and I was wasted.
Speaker 1: But so I think I have to steep throwing a
Speaker 1: drink on someone's like it's actually it's terrible. But that's
Speaker 1: saying yes, but it's like worse than a punch in
Speaker 1: the face. I think it's so just mean. It's freaking mean.
Speaker 1: Somebody said to me, I rather get punched in the face,
Speaker 1: because if you're gonna throw a drinking my face, I'm
Speaker 1: attacking you. If you're punching me, I'm suing you. So
Speaker 1: it's different, thanks different. If you're gonna throw a drink
Speaker 1: in my face, I'm attacking you. But then you're gonna
Speaker 1: get sued exactly. So I'm saying I rather get punched.
Speaker 1: Uh interesting, Oh you were looking at how smart again?
Speaker 1: Back to Dr Snooky. I can't with me Doctor Snooky
Speaker 1: giving amazing sound advice. That's exactly right, thank you. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: you'd rather someone punch punch you in the face than
Speaker 1: throw a drink on you. Was one you're attacking them
Speaker 1: and you're getting sued. The other you're getting sued. This
Speaker 1: is this is snooky knowledge. I like this. I'm really smart.