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Speaker 1: Murphy along time my partner Steve tasks Paying. At one pm,

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Speaker 1: Warren Sharp is gonna join us. His twenty eighteen football

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Speaker 1: preview book is out. He takes a big analytical look

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Speaker 1: from Sports Illustrated will join us. He's written a lot

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Speaker 1: one question we've got for you. Six AFC teams made

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Speaker 1: gonna go back? And which ones are gonna change? Over day?

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Speaker 1: Right where you are. One Bill's Live coming actually starting

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Speaker 1: right now Steve Plasterer touchdown, touchdown, Buckstown Times. Here we

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Speaker 1: go back at it again. One Bill's Live, presented by

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Speaker 1: Kalida Hell from Archard Park. Another beautiful hot summer day

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Speaker 1: our one Buffalo Studio, John Murphy, Steve Tasker back to

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Speaker 1: start a new week again. An abbreviated week for both

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Speaker 1: of us. Right off. I went into the morning meeting

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Speaker 1: conduct any other business, I hereby propose that we go

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Speaker 1: to the three day weekend from now until the end

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Speaker 1: of time. Yeah. I loved the three day weekends. Listen

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Speaker 1: I got. I know, we got a lot of listeners

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Speaker 1: But let me just tell you, all of you people

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Speaker 1: It's just great. It's just you got one day to

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Speaker 1: totally relax. For me, that was Saturday, and then an

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Speaker 1: attributed to just being relaxed. No pressure here, just relax.

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Speaker 1: You got a three day weekend and it was great.

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Speaker 1: Spent yesterday at the beach at Hanford Bay, Spent Saturday

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Speaker 1: just kind of hanging around the house, kind of you know,

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Speaker 1: keeping it on the down low. And we got another

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Speaker 1: short week coming up. Now. I have a special circumstances

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Speaker 1: this week, Steve. I don't want to congratulations. Oh thank you. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: My son Mark's getting married this weekend. So I'll work

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Speaker 1: Because shows what are you doing, man, I'm hydrating the

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Speaker 1: hydrating coffee anything else there. But that's what you're right about.

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Speaker 1: The three. It used to have a saying when we

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Speaker 1: So and we used to have a saying, if it's free,

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Speaker 1: We have a couple of good guests, good quality guests.

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Speaker 1: One of them, I've never we've never hit on the

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Speaker 1: Preview by Warren Sharp. I looked at it over the

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Speaker 1: And Warren Sharp's going to join us today at one

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Speaker 1: o'clock Steep and he's got a whole front section about

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Speaker 1: Warren Sharp, though, has a lot of like in general

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Speaker 1: And that's only on that first play. And so you're

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Speaker 1: And forget about scoring and so it's questions like that

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Speaker 1: It looks like the Sears catalog. I mean it's big, thick, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: their fantasy leagues. Yeah. Here's a quote from his Bill section,

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Speaker 1: six earned six point three Pythagorean wins. I don't know

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Speaker 1: on to say he believes that the Bills, obviously, he

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Speaker 1: just a lot of interesting concepts, thought provoking stuff. For instance,

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Speaker 1: going to be an interesting guest, I promise you coming

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Speaker 1: up at one o'clock today. His book, The twenty eighteen

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Speaker 1: Football Preview. He describes it as the fastest way to

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Speaker 1: get smart for the twenty eighteen Pro football season. It's

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Speaker 1: a lot. There's a lot in there. You're not kidding.

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Speaker 1: size of a small phone book, and it's it's all analytics.

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Speaker 1: It's everything you know based on what happened in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 1: I like listening to it's great other points of view,

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Speaker 1: once the preseason begins, I probably won't pick. I'll pay

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Speaker 1: get up look at the Bills opponents. But I'm more

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Speaker 1: this are are the guy. Andrew Brandt has said openly

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Speaker 1: UH in his Twitter account that you know, listen, they've

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Speaker 1: used up his most productive years typically as a running back.

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Speaker 1: You're not going to hit a home run, although you

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Speaker 1: know you call a home run what you want to

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Speaker 1: call it. He's going to sign a really good deal,

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Speaker 1: but he's not gonna get an epic deal at playing

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Speaker 1: running back in the National Football League. You're just not

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Speaker 1: going to do it. So I think I think he's

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Speaker 1: for me. I I signed the deal whatever they got

436
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Speaker 1: and and go with it because he's a difference maker. Well, now,

437
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,720
Speaker 1: last year he waited deep into camp September fourth before

438
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Speaker 1: he signed his franchise tag twelve point twelve million last year.

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Speaker 1: This today is the uh the deadline to sign a

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Speaker 1: long term deal four pm today, But he can wait.

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Speaker 1: Why wouldn't he wait, right Bell? Why wouldn't he get

442
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Speaker 1: into camp and do it again what he did last year?

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Speaker 1: Take the tag which is now what fourteen and a

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Speaker 1: half million? Gone up a couple of million. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what the incentive for Lemon Bell if he doesn't

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Speaker 1: get the long term deal today by four pm, which

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Speaker 1: does not appear likely, why wouldn't he wait? Take out well,

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Speaker 1: miss camp. There's one reason he would, and that's if

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Speaker 1: they give him a multi year deal with a lot

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Speaker 1: of guarantees in the next couple of years, but that

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Speaker 1: they're signing a franchise deal, he'd be playing for what

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Speaker 1: would you say? Fourteen point two that's a one year deal.

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Speaker 1: Now he can bet on himself like he did last year,

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Speaker 1: and good for him. And I've always been a big

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Speaker 1: fan of guys who do that. I think it's it's

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Speaker 1: courageous and shows a lot of confidence and a guy

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Speaker 1: who has a self a sense of self that he

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Speaker 1: knows he's gonna be good and he's gonna He's in

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Speaker 1: a situation where he can thrive and he wants to

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Speaker 1: stay there, but he does want to maximize it, and

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Speaker 1: Levion did that last year. If he I think the

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Speaker 1: reason he signs a deal with Pittsburgh is because it

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Speaker 1: is a long term deal, or if it is and

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Speaker 1: he does sign it, it'll be a long term deal

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Speaker 1: and it'll have a lot of guaranteed money in it.

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Speaker 1: This year's tag fourteen point five million for Levion Bell

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Speaker 1: for running backs. So he can wait and get get

468
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Speaker 1: a two point four million dollar raised by doing nothing.

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Speaker 1: I just waiting missing training. Can I gotta ask you,

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Speaker 1: Murph do you pay running back that eight million? Which

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Speaker 1: looks like a lot of money? Um, eight looks like

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Speaker 1: a lot of money? Double it? Yeah, almost, this is

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Speaker 1: what the Steelers are looking at. Do we pay running

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Speaker 1: back that much? Probably not. I think Levy m Bell

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Speaker 1: is the best in the game, at least one of

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Speaker 1: the top two. But do you want to tie up

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Speaker 1: fourteen million of your cap into one running back? Not

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Speaker 1: in today's NFL, I don't think so. You don't either, No,

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Speaker 1: no way, no way, not at that position now. And

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Speaker 1: we've got we've got a phenomenal guy here, guy who's

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Speaker 1: verging on the Hall of Fame here, and and you know,

482
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Speaker 1: but there's a lot of question marks now. They got

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Speaker 1: dropped on us last Tuesday, and we'll keep it. We'll

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Speaker 1: keep an eye on what happens with with LaShaun McCoy.

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Speaker 1: But that no, no, no, I mean LaShaun McCoy is headed.

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Speaker 1: That could be if if if all this stuff, with

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Speaker 1: what's happened to him over the last week, if all

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Speaker 1: that blows over, if somehow or other he survives this,

489
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Speaker 1: he goes on and it all comes out whatever honky door,

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Speaker 1: and he goes on to have twelve thousand yards rushing

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Speaker 1: in his career and goes to the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: He's still not you know, you still can't pay him that.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's just too much money for a position

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Speaker 1: where there are a lot of guys who are really

495
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Speaker 1: good athletes, really productive players, and guys like you look

496
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Speaker 1: at the New Orleans Saints last year that Alvin Kamara.

497
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Speaker 1: He came out of nowhere, fifth round draft pick and

498
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Speaker 1: was offensive Rookie of the Year. What allows the Bills

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Speaker 1: to do it is the fact that they do not

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Speaker 1: have money tied up in a quarterback, right well, tied

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Speaker 1: up in a quarterback that McCoy's contract would be an issue.

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Speaker 1: It's not. They don't have money tied up in a

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Speaker 1: quarterback neither. You know, the veteran McCarron or obviously the

504
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Speaker 1: young guys Peterman or Josh Allen listen and this, and

505
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Speaker 1: they're doing it the right way. I mean, you look

506
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Speaker 1: at Brandon Being and Sean McDermott and they say it

507
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Speaker 1: and you don't get a sense of what it sounds

508
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Speaker 1: like cliche and coach speak when they say it, but

509
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Speaker 1: and it sometimes it is. But that's why you're building

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Speaker 1: a team. That's what they're trying to do and you've

511
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Speaker 1: got to maximize the value that you're paying for all

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Speaker 1: of your players. Last year, they had a long list

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Speaker 1: of guys that were on the one year deals. They

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Speaker 1: got value for those, They got guys that overplayed their contracts.

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Speaker 1: This year they're doing a little bit of that. But

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Speaker 1: they knew too that they were gonna be in a

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Speaker 1: position where they needed a lot of new players to

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Speaker 1: come in. They were able to get Vonte Davis, they

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Speaker 1: got Trent Murphy, they got star Lotu Lele. They've got

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Speaker 1: some guys that are really upgrades at positions they needed it.

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Speaker 1: But they're only able to do that stuff because you

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Speaker 1: shed a guy like Marcel Darius, you shed the contract

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Speaker 1: of a guy like Sammy Watkins who was in line

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Speaker 1: to get his out of his first year deal. You

525
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Speaker 1: know that you're gonna get value for what you're paying

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Speaker 1: for players. And I just at that position of running

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Speaker 1: back position, there's enough really good quality guys athletes out

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Speaker 1: there who can contribute. We've seen it here in Buffalo

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Speaker 1: behind Shady, you know, with Cadet Gillislee, Carlos Williams four

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Speaker 1: years ago, who had a really good rookie season, couldn't contain,

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Speaker 1: couldn't maintain it. So there's been guys who have really

532
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Speaker 1: wowed people here in Buffalo's backups, you know, and you

533
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Speaker 1: have to find guys like that and expand their role

534
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Speaker 1: and you get value for that, and you can spend

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Speaker 1: the eight million bucks that you don't pay a running

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Speaker 1: back on defensive players, wide receivers, you name it. Hey,

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Speaker 1: what do you think how many AFC teams who made

538
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Speaker 1: it to the playoffs last year are gonna go back

539
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Speaker 1: this year? Give us a call. The phone line's open

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Speaker 1: eight O three fifty toll free one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. Got a call on the

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Speaker 1: line from Nick on a sello as a question for us.

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Speaker 1: NICKO ahead, you're on the air with us. All right,

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Speaker 1: good afternoon, great show, guys, Thank you Nick. Thanks. So

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Speaker 1: let's yeah, let's say that the let's Sean McCoy thing

546
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Speaker 1: blows over, what or and he does get another two

547
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Speaker 1: thousand years? Will he go to the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: There's a pretty good chance, I believe. So I have

549
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Speaker 1: to kind of disagree. If he wanted more money, I

550
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Speaker 1: think he's worth it. But at the same time, there

551
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Speaker 1: are young guys out there that like you, like Camara

552
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: and guys like that, that you could probably pick up easier.

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Speaker 1: So hopefully, though in my opinion, I hope it just

554
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Speaker 1: blows over. I really don't understand it myself, but it'll

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Speaker 1: come out. If it doesn't come out in the wash,

556
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Speaker 1: it'll come out in the rents. So with that, oh,

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Speaker 1: the only the other thing I wanted to ask you

558
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Speaker 1: guys is I was worried about Jim and I wanted

559
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Speaker 1: to see get the information on when we were supposed

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Speaker 1: to attend the new trauma center opening that I don't

561
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Speaker 1: know that I don't know, but if if it's going

562
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Speaker 1: to have me, would probably be better to call the

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Speaker 1: facility and find that out. Sorry, I Nick, I I

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Speaker 1: don't know have any information about win Jim's gonna they're

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Speaker 1: gonna open that trauma center. But getting back to your point, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think Lashaw McCoy if he gets twelve thousand yards

567
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Speaker 1: career wise, yeah, I think he does go in the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Played for Philadelphia very well, was traded,

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Speaker 1: didn't wasn't cut, wasn't released. He was traded and came

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Speaker 1: over and continued that in Buffalo and had a great

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Speaker 1: run here. In Buffalo. And yeah, there are some question

572
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Speaker 1: marks now in the last couple in the last week

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Speaker 1: or so that may put a shadow over that. But

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's any question that he's going to

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Speaker 1: be that kind of quality running back if he can

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Speaker 1: come back and get another two years in so. But

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. You're saying you wouldn't pay him that,

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Speaker 1: but i'd pay Lashawn what he's getting. But that's just

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Speaker 1: barely over half of what Levion Bell is going to

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Speaker 1: get if he signs the contract the franchise tag. That's

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Speaker 1: a lot of money for a running back in today's NFL,

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Speaker 1: particularly given the fact that the trend in the NFL

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Speaker 1: is to give the guys get all the guys in

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Speaker 1: the roster about the same amount of carry, or at

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Speaker 1: least one guy, you know, maybe fifty percent more than

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Speaker 1: the other two guys get. It's it's a running back

587
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Speaker 1: by committee. Is common in the NFL. Everybody does it.

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Speaker 1: I do think McCoy. Look, it's a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: And let's put aside the charges that you know, the

590
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Speaker 1: allegations that came out last week. We don't know where

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00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 1: that's going, right. We have no indication where that's going

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Speaker 1: or where the Bills are going as a matter of fact,

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Speaker 1: but if he comes back, if he's playing, I do

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Speaker 1: think McCoy is a rare case, a little bit like

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Speaker 1: Laban Bell, where you would exceed what is normally paid

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Speaker 1: to a running back. Yes, you can get by with

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Speaker 1: other running back. You can maybe get lucky with the

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Speaker 1: next Alvin Kimera, but Lashawn McCoy is a difference making

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Speaker 1: running back, a difference maker. And that's why I think

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Speaker 1: the Bills are okay paying him what they paying him.

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Speaker 1: If they had money tied up in a quarterback or

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver. You know, if Sammy Watkins we're on

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Speaker 1: a second deal here, that might change, that would change.

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Speaker 1: I think that's right now. They build around LaShaun McCoy

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Speaker 1: when he's available because of who he is and how

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Speaker 1: he plays, and that's part of building the team. He's

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Speaker 1: their best best offensive player. In today's NFL, you don't

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Speaker 1: mind having your best offensive players only and I say only,

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Speaker 1: but only making eight million bucks. That's where you want

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Speaker 1: to be. That's perfect because then you can spend some

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Speaker 1: spread it all the way around the roster. If the

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Speaker 1: best player on your offensive side of the football, and

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Speaker 1: I think most of us agree that it would be

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Speaker 1: Lashawn McCoy. That's way below the league average. And there

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Speaker 1: may be somebody out there who's making more than him.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I don't know what Benjamin's making

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Speaker 1: or what he came over with from from Carolina. Who knows?

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Speaker 1: I really don't. But if your best player is only

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Speaker 1: making eight million dollars a year, that's pretty good value. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's pretty good value. All Right, we're gonna take a break.

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Speaker 1: We want to involve you in our question of the day.

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Speaker 1: How many AFC teams will make it back to the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: the ones who made it in twenty seventeen, How many

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Speaker 1: make it in twenty eighteen? Are the bills? One of them?

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Speaker 1: Give us a call, best way to do it. Give

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Speaker 1: he's got different ideas. We're gonna kind of challenge him, no,

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Speaker 1: but talk to him about some of the stuff. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's always interesting to talk to people who have a

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Speaker 1: job in the business in football. You talk to analytics guys,

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Speaker 1: you start talking to him about teams, and they have

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Speaker 1: an entirely different point of view about how they even

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Speaker 1: view the game. And you do the same thing. I've

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Speaker 1: mentioned this before when we were talking about all the

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Speaker 1: officials four white hats that retired from the NFL this year.

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Speaker 1: You know, uh, you know ed Hockey Lee and Jeane

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Speaker 1: s Terrator, those guys retiring. You talked to those guys.

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Speaker 1: They have a completely different way of watching and it's

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Speaker 1: really interesting to get their perspective when you just start asking,

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Speaker 1: you know, every day run of the mill questions about

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Speaker 1: what they think about this and that and the other,

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Speaker 1: and they have a their answers are like what you

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Speaker 1: know because they look at the game completely different. And

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Speaker 1: these analytics guys are exact same way. Warren Sharp will

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Speaker 1: join us at one today. There's one two. I know

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Speaker 1: we're going to get to the tweet cheat and get

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Speaker 1: into our topic of the day about last year's playoff contenders.

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Speaker 1: But Colin Sullivan with an interesting tweet Stevie Goes Murph

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Speaker 1: loved the show. No that's not all he wrote, but

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Speaker 1: I had to read that getting the Football Edge. Quick

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Speaker 1: question hypothetical last year's Bills team insert Philip Rivers. How

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Speaker 1: far do we make it? How far do we go? Bills?

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Speaker 1: That's an interesting question. I think there's two wins there

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Speaker 1: at least, right. I think you get to the championship

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Speaker 1: game if you win. Yeah, I think you get to

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Speaker 1: the championship game with Philip Rivers on Chears Bills team.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there are other deficiencies in last year's Bills

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Speaker 1: team defense number one, lack of pass rush. The receiving

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Speaker 1: corps was a little bit banged up and effective, but

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Speaker 1: I think Rivers makes a difference. I think that might

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Speaker 1: be a championship AFC championship team that winner. But team

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Speaker 1: if Philip Rivers plays on that, that's an interesting question,

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Speaker 1: because yeah, he would have made a big difference. There

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Speaker 1: are a lot of instances throughout the course of the

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Speaker 1: regular season. And like I've always said about the Bills

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Speaker 1: last year, Tyrod will give you three or four plays

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Speaker 1: that nobody else can make. But there are ten plays

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Speaker 1: that just about every other quarterback would make and that

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Speaker 1: should make and he doesn't. And there's that balancing act

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Speaker 1: and the Bills managed to and he never turned it over.

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Speaker 1: And because of the rest of what the Bills were

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Speaker 1: able to put together on the field, that was a

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Speaker 1: pretty good combination last year getting nine wins and getting

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Speaker 1: to the playoffs. But Philip Rivers elite quarterback, that changes everything.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's not too many teams that wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: better with Philip Rivers on them and the Bills making

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Speaker 1: it into the playoffs, getting another what two wins that

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Speaker 1: might have been a home playoff game. You know, that's

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Speaker 1: a good question. It is a good question today. We

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Speaker 1: think it's a good one. Last year's playoff teams in

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Speaker 1: the AFC Patriots, Steelers, Bills, Jaguars, Titans, Chiefs, Which ones

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Speaker 1: make it back this year? And why? You can tweet

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Speaker 1: us in or you can call us and we love

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Speaker 1: to hear your voice. Eight oh three oh five fifty

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Speaker 1: the number in Buffalo outside Buffalo, toll free call one

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Let us

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Speaker 1: know what you think. Which ones go in? What do

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Speaker 1: you think, Steve? But those four, I'm gonna tell you

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Speaker 1: here's who I think makes it back into the playoffs

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Speaker 1: this year, Patriots, Steelers, and Chiefs. Of that group, I

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Speaker 1: think three of those six make it. I don't I

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Speaker 1: don't know that the Bills are gonna make it. Lots

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Speaker 1: of uncertainty around the Bills right now. I think Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: is as a pretender. I think they were last year,

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Speaker 1: and I think their division outlook has changed now. And Tennessee,

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Speaker 1: I think is a big question mark. So I got

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Speaker 1: three of those six making the playoffs this year, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I think two. You look around and what teams

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Speaker 1: are going to be different. I think the Houston Texans

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Speaker 1: are going to be a much better football team this year.

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Speaker 1: And I also think that the Chargers, the way they

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Speaker 1: finished up last year, they went oh and four to

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Speaker 1: start the season, last year, and they were the best team.

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Speaker 1: They were one of the best teams in the in

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Speaker 1: the conference at the end of the season. The Bills

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Speaker 1: got a look at that up close and personal midway

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Speaker 1: through the season when they made the change to Peterman.

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Speaker 1: Their pass rushing, their defense gave them a chance a

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Speaker 1: lot last year, and they weren't able to dig out

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Speaker 1: of the hole that they dug so early in the year,

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Speaker 1: particularly with the fast start that the Chiefs got out

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Speaker 1: to in that division. So I think I think Oakland

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Speaker 1: has a chance to have I have big doubts about it, really,

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Speaker 1: I really do. And it goes with their draft seemed

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Speaker 1: like a jumble. It didn't seem like there was any

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Speaker 1: cohesive plan, bigger plan in their draft. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how easy it's going to be for John Gruden to

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Speaker 1: parachute back into the National Football League on the sidelines.

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Speaker 1: M I just and two years ago they were the

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Speaker 1: team to beat Jack del Rio had him, and then

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Speaker 1: their offensive line went caput, and they lost a couple

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Speaker 1: of guys and their quarterback went out and while they

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Speaker 1: lost their quarterback, So I you know, I don't know

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Speaker 1: how all those things come together to put them up

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Speaker 1: ahead of a team like San Diego or a team

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Speaker 1: like Kansas City, We'll see it'd be really competitive. About West.

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Speaker 1: I think can probably be the best division in the AFC.

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Speaker 1: But let's hear from you which of last year's playoff

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Speaker 1: teams in the AFC will make it to the playoffs

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Speaker 1: this year? So you say three, right or maybe four?

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Speaker 1: Did you have the Chargers in there? I'm yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think England. I think New England. I'd like to wait

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Speaker 1: until four o'clock, an hour after we're up there, to

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Speaker 1: see if Leveon Bell signs his deal. If Levion Bell

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Speaker 1: is a Pittsburgh Steeler, I think they can get back.

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Speaker 1: If he's not, they're going to struggle. I think he'll

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Speaker 1: play for them this year, probably under the tech K.

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Speaker 1: I think they'll get back in. Then. Roethlisberger is too

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Speaker 1: good to count out against. I saw them play. They

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Speaker 1: struggle offensively all year. They got in and they hung

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Speaker 1: forty two points on the Jacksonville defense with Ben Roethlisberger. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean they can lie to it. He can, Ben

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Speaker 1: can throw it, and that guy is unbelievable and to

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Speaker 1: do that, and I know it was a home game,

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Speaker 1: but man, oh man, hanging forty two points on a

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville defense that was stellar last year. Says a lot

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Speaker 1: about where they're at. That game was on an NFL

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Speaker 1: network or replay yesterday. I watched for about fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 1: That's a heck of a game I watched. I did

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Speaker 1: the sideline a basketball game. Oh my gosh, and we're

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Speaker 1: getting updates on the score and say, what kind of

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Speaker 1: a game is this? Jacksonville that scored ten points against

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Speaker 1: the Bills the week before and now they've got in

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Speaker 1: the forties and lost. I'll tell you what though that

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Speaker 1: and it's it's a great statement. And when I when

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Speaker 1: I was standing on the sidelines, I remember thinking this,

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Speaker 1: U if if Hines Field was a saloon, Jacksonville kicked

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Speaker 1: in the deuce, swinging doors and came in and started

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Speaker 1: hitting people in the mouth. They really they were inspired

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Speaker 1: coming out. They knew that they were up against it,

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Speaker 1: and they they'd seen Pittsburgh before and they, you know,

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Speaker 1: there was just this thing about Jacksonville had a huge

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Speaker 1: chip on their shoulder. They started the game like that,

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Speaker 1: and they caught Pittsburgh a little bit unawares, and Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: spent the whole day kind of trying to climb out

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Speaker 1: of it, and they never made it. It was a

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Speaker 1: It was a fantastic football game. Hey, let us don't

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Speaker 1: you think last year's playoff teams in the AFC, how

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Speaker 1: many of them get into the playoffs this year? Give

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Speaker 1: us a call. The lines are open eight oh three

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Speaker 1: h five fifty or from outside Buffalo, toll three at

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Speaker 1: one eight eight five fifty two five fifty, or send

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Speaker 1: us a tweet with your thoughts. You got some action

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Speaker 1: on the tweet. Cheat their Steve. Yeah, wondering Jack, who's

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Speaker 1: a regular tweet contributor for us in New England. Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: and Jacksonville are gonna make it back. I predict this,

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Speaker 1: Wondering Jack. I predict the other three will miss twenty

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Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen. LA will win the West as the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: with a young quarterback are gonna slide. Houston and Watson

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Speaker 1: and healthy d we're gonna win the South, and Jackson

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Speaker 1: will be back as a wild card. Gruden will get

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Speaker 1: in the Raiders as the other wild card. There you go.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's that touches all the bases. Houston and

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Speaker 1: the Raiders will get in, and also LA. So those

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Speaker 1: are the three weeks that are going to get in. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: New e Jacksonville, Kansas City out right, Yeah, Buffalo, Kansas City,

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Speaker 1: and Tennessee, Tennessee. All right, that's not bad. I got

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Speaker 1: We got a tweet from Brian rosternall again, a guy

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Speaker 1: who tweets quite often. The Chiefs and Titans, he says

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Speaker 1: will be replaced by the Chargers and the Texans, respectively.

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Speaker 1: The remaining AFC looks to shape up similarly, Buffalo has

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Speaker 1: the most approved and squeak in this year, Waltson next year.

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Speaker 1: The McDermott factor has to earn the highest coaching honors.

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Speaker 1: I do think that many people underestimate the McDermott factor.

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Speaker 1: I think Brian Rosterson is onto something. I think I

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Speaker 1: have a feeling that Sean McDermot after one year, has

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Speaker 1: proven that he is. He brings added value. He's not

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Speaker 1: just you know, it's not just the Bill's roster. It's McDermott.

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Speaker 1: His approach, his attitude, the attitude that he infuses his

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Speaker 1: team with that adds up to success. Now, I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to sit here and say he's worth one win

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Speaker 1: and a half wins, two wins, but I do think

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Speaker 1: he's worth success on this team, and maybe I'm hesitant

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Speaker 1: to quantify it, but I do think he adds to

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Speaker 1: the talent mix here and I think people may underestimate

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Speaker 1: that a little bit. I have to agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a big feel here in Buffalo that

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Speaker 1: their coaching staff and this program that Brandon Bean and

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott have instilled and the culture they're trying to

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Speaker 1: build helped a less talented roster be achieved more last year.

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Speaker 1: And there were moments when it showed itself, not only

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Speaker 1: at that moment when they finally made the playoffs when

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati scored a touchdown against to beat the Ravens and

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Speaker 1: you saw the locker room reaction, but there are also

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Speaker 1: things that happened on the field and the team that

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Speaker 1: they built last year, and like I said, it was

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Speaker 1: on paper, less talented overachieved and played better with Sean

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Speaker 1: McDermott at the helm, and I think there's a lot

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Speaker 1: to be said for that, and I think people are

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Speaker 1: expecting that again. And maybe the that raised the bar

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Speaker 1: a little bit too high. Maybe you're right, maybe the

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Speaker 1: um and we're gonna have Warren Sharper on you know,

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Speaker 1: he said, you know, the Pythagorean wins of the Bills

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Speaker 1: guy were like six point three instead of nine. But

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Speaker 1: I think Sean McDermott is the is you know, maybe

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Speaker 1: he is two point seven wins, you know, because I

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Speaker 1: do think there's a feeling in this building that this

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Speaker 1: is an overachieving culture and they're more talented this year

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Speaker 1: than they were last. Take a call on this issue.

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Speaker 1: Butch in Buffalo, Hello, Butch, have you been good? John?

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Speaker 1: And Steve is awesome? Salting you guys. I love you guys.

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Speaker 1: You know that as usual. Appreciate it. Oh as usual

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Speaker 1: and I mean that scessarily. Hey, John is see, you

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Speaker 1: know a lot of the things were flying under the radar.

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Speaker 1: I believe the Bills along with Jacksonville are going to

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Speaker 1: be getting back to the playoffs. And but I just

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Speaker 1: said catch in Buffalo that we really flying on the

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Speaker 1: rad We saw focused on a new office sport in Devot,

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Speaker 1: who's a great guy, but we're forgetting about a whiz

851
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: guy that we have established ascid that it's a credit

852
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: to closely Derman and being for bringing him on the staff.

853
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: That's Terry Robiski. And with the offer to mind that

854
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: Robinsky has even though he's a wide receivers coach here,

855
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: but by him being officer cording in all the year's experience,

856
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: you guys know, he's been suffering football for years. That

857
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: Robinsky the talent in that offensive coaching room. When de

858
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: Bo says something, Robisky could add something to it the

859
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: game planning along with dealing with young quarterbacks like and

860
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 1: the receivers, it's gonna be awesome. I really believe that

861
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: that he's swing under the radar as an asset that

862
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: we have brought to this team this year, and so

863
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: I add him as another draft pick that Ashley will

864
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm going to listen to the rest

865
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: of the show. I love you guys, man, and I

866
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: love your whole staff. Thank you so much for taking

867
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 1: my call. Thanks. We haven't been able to get Terry

868
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: Robisky on the show. Yeah, we'd love to get him on,

869
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: but he is under the radar, and I do think

870
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: he can make a difference with the receiving cord that was,

871
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: you know, not real great last year. Hey, young guys,

872
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: all over the receiving cordy. He has been in the

873
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: NFL for a long long time and been coaching for

874
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: a long long time. If you guys. If some of

875
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: you Pant fans out there may not be familiar with

876
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: Terry Robisky, I'll tell you he goes back to my

877
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: days as a player. I retired twenty years ago, but

878
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: back in the early nineties, he was a guy that

879
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: was on staff with the Raiders in the teams that

880
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 1: were well, we were always battling. He was the offensive coordinator.

881
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 1: He was on that staff and that he and this

882
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 1: doesn't go on his win column, but he was on

883
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: the staff when he got him to the championship game

884
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo. Now they lost at fifty one to three,

885
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 1: but he was also on that staff that got that

886
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: team into the playoffs a bunch. And he's been around

887
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: the National Football League. I bump into him doing my

888
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: work with CBS all the time. US. He's been a

889
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 1: constant presence in the NFL, with one staff or the other.

890
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: And and don't let that, you know, put you off.

891
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 1: And as we seeing here, the MSG viewers are seeing

892
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: some he was with Tennessee in the last few years.

893
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: He has been around owned and has a lot of experience,

894
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 1: and I think he's gonna be good for those receivers

895
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 1: in there because he comes with a level of credibility,

896
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: and all the old coaches kind of do that when

897
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 1: they've been in the league and they start talking to

898
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: the guys on there in the meeting room about who

899
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 1: they've coached, where they've coached, what they've been about, and

900
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: how they do it, and it gives him some credibility

901
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: that the coaches may not have. We're gonna take a break.

902
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: I want to hear from you. How many AFC teams

903
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: who made it to the playoffs last year going back

904
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: this year? Are the Bills one of them? Tell us

905
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: why phone lines open eight oh three five fifty and

906
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,720
Speaker 1: toll free from outside Buffalo one eight eight five fifty

907
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 1: two five fifty John Murphy, Here was Steve Tasker. We're

908
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: here until three one Bills live from one Bill's Drive

909
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bills Radio. We got no we're back, and

910
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: we don't have time to talk anymore. Steve and I

911
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: talking during the break. It's it's a problem. Remember me

912
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: when I was telling you about I'll get back to it.

913
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: My mother in law, who watches the show, apparently, he

914
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: said to me last night, you and Steve seem like

915
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: you know each other pretty well. I said, well, thirty

916
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 1: five years or so we've known each other, right, I

917
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: mean they're over thirty. Yeah, yeah, my mother not picked

918
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: up on that. Interesting. Plus, you know what happens. You

919
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 1: came from a big family. Yeah, and I you know

920
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 1: I did too. I mean I count four kids as

921
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: a big family, My four kids and mom and dad,

922
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: and we're all in the same house. And you were

923
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: more be bigger than that. So I jeezus, you notice

924
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: when people are from big families. Yeah, you can kind

925
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: of tell, right, Yeah, you can count. I mean people

926
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: like you and me can tell. Yeah. You're used to finding,

927
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: you find your level and you you're very comfortable in

928
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: the group, right right, Yes, ye're right. Yeah. Hey, let's

929
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 1: take a phone call. Which AFC East or which AFC

930
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: teams from last year are gonna make the playoffs this year.

931
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: I'd like to get your thoughts on that, Joe and

932
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: a gold I had some thoughts on that, Joe, go ahead,

933
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: you're on the air with us. Yes, uh, guys, I

934
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 1: was wondering. I agree with you, Murphy. I agree with

935
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 1: the definitely the pat it's uh, you know, the Steelers

936
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:06,240
Speaker 1: and uh than Jacksonville, but I don't know about Jacksonville.

937
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: But what you guys thought about what the Patriots, what

938
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: they are they going to be better or with the

939
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: wolves they made in the offseason, or well you get

940
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: are the same? Well, I don't know, that's a good question.

941
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,240
Speaker 1: They still got Tom Brady. He's gonna be over forty

942
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: years old. If Edelman um will is now I'm getting

943
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: confused about the Patriots and Edelman will be back in

944
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 1: the fold. It'll be suspended right right for the first

945
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: four games, so that'll give him a little a bit

946
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: of a quirk. If Gronkowski stays healthy. I mean the Patriots. Listen,

947
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: the Patriots can get way worse than still make the playoffs.

948
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: I mean, they're going to the Super Bowl last couple

949
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: of years, so they can take a hit to their roster.

950
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 1: But don't think they will. I mean, they're gonna build

951
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: a different team, and they're gonna win games differently than

952
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 1: they did this last year. And they'll they'll win games

953
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: about six different ways as a season progresses, So they're

954
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: gonna be Yeah. I don't see the Patriots dropping off

955
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: all that much because of Brady, Gronkowski and Edelman and

956
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: the fact that the one thing that is and I've

957
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: said this too and now you mentioned it, um Matt

958
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 1: Patricia is not there. They're gonna have a new defensive coordinator.

959
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: And I've always said You've heard me say it Murphic

960
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 1: time and time again. Coordinators are huge. I think I

961
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: think the Patriots are gonna have a little bit of

962
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: an adjustment period. So yeah, there's some there's some question

963
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: marks you can throw over there in the in their direction.

964
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: But you know, people here in Buffalo know better than

965
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: not not to give them the benefit of the doubt.

966
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: They've earned it. And the problem is who is in

967
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: the division to put up a fight right now? You know,

968
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 1: the Bills, I guess they're best position. They were second

969
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: place in the division last year. But the Bills position

970
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: to knock know, eng them down, you know, from a

971
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: from a multi you know, double digit winning team to

972
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: eight or nine wins, probably not. Jets, Dolphins, probably not.

973
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: You know, there's nobody in the division who will put

974
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: up a fight. So the Patriots can look at their

975
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: six division games and say that there's four wins, there's

976
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: five wins, right they probably realistically can. I mean the Bills,

977
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: the Jets, and the Dolphins are kind of in that

978
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 1: spot where they you know, they've always been right, and

979
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: well they have been for a long time. But the

980
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: Dolphins are a little bit like the Buffalo Bills a

981
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen in that they've got lost a lot of

982
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: really good players and they're hoping to get better as

983
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: like with addition by subtraction. That in Dominican Sue is

984
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 1: not there, but they replaced him. They they some other

985
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: players are there. They you know, it's just that atmosphere.

986
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: There have been people who have said Adam Gase is

987
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: going to be on the hot seat this year unless

988
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: things get a little better. The Jets continue to be,

989
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: you know, full of hope, but a little bit like

990
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: the Bills during that whole drought thing. You know, they

991
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: had a lot of hope and they did a lot

992
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 1: of things, but you know, not all the answers to

993
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 1: all their questions are going to be yes. You know,

994
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: some of them are are not going to come up.

995
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: And so I think all three of those teams, Buffalo,

996
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: New England, I'm Buffalo, Miami and the Jets, you know,

997
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: I'll have more questions about trying to get better than

998
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 1: the Patriots do about trying to maintain. So I yeah,

999
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: I think Murs makes a good point in that it's

1000
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: hard to take the Patriots out of the top spot

1001
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: of the AFC East Champions until you get one of

1002
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: the three other teams we're talking about really substantially making

1003
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: a statement about how good they are in certain guys

1004
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 1: we don't know about yet, come out and play really well.

1005
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: All right, a break here for the top of the hour.

1006
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: When we come back, we're gonna get into some analytics.

1007
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 1: Warren's Sharp of Sharp Football Analytics will join us. He's

1008
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: the author of Warren Sharp's twenty eighteen football preview, Sharp

1009
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: Football Analysis, Predictive analytics, that's what Warren Sharp does. He'll

1010
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: be joining us when we come back after the top

1011
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 1: of the hour. Are you can phone in your questions

1012
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: and comments for him as well. Stick around, Steve and

1013
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,720
Speaker 1: I back with more. One Bills Live from One Bill's

1014
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio. Hello Bills Radio Network. Stories

1015
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 1: update from One Bills Drive Quiet at One Bills Drive.

1016
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: Busy somewhat around the NFL today with the four deadline

1017
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: for franchise tag negotiations, Steelers coach Mike Tomlin is being

1018
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: optimistic about the talks with Levon Bell. Tomlin over the

1019
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: weekend said he'd like the Steelers to sign Bell to

1020
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 1: a long term deal before the deadline at four pm

1021
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: this afternoon. It'll be challenging. ESPN's Adam Schefter says it's

1022
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: probably not going to have a long term agreement. They

1023
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: will continue talking and trying, but they are not close

1024
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: to a deal. Bells played under the tag last year

1025
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: twelve point twelve million dollars. This time the tag is

1026
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: a couple of million more than that fourteen and a

1027
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: half million dollars. But if he doesn't play under the tag,

1028
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: if he'd like a long term deal, needs to do

1029
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: it before four pm this afternoon. No long term deal

1030
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: expected between the Rams and franchise safety LaMarcus Joiner by

1031
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 1: today's deadline. Those two sides continue to talk. Lions franchise

1032
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 1: franchise tag defensive end Ziggianza will not reach a deal

1033
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: by four o'clock today. According to the league sources, his

1034
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: contract expires after this season. That's what's going on in

1035
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,479
Speaker 1: the NFL. Aaron Rodgers says he wants to play until

1036
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: he's forty years old. He wants to go Tom Brady

1037
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: Jars too old. NBC sports Peter King that that's the

1038
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: goal to play until he's forty years old. He'd love

1039
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: to play at forty. If Rodgers is to hit that goal,

1040
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: the Packers a new contract would be in order. He

1041
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: has two years remaining on his contract, the team able

1042
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: to use the franchise tank two years beyond that. Aaron

1043
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: Rodgers says he wants to play until he is forty

1044
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: years old. World Cup Yesterday, France beat the Croatia four

1045
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,879
Speaker 1: to two in the World Cup Final, France's second World

1046
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,959
Speaker 1: Cup all time. Major League Baseball, the home run derby tonight,

1047
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: the average age of the eight participants is just over

1048
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: twenty six years old, is the youngest field ever. None

1049
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: of the eight players were born when the first home

1050
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: run derby at the All Star Game was held in

1051
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty five. The pressure on Bryce Harper to win

1052
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: in front of his home fans in Washington. Major League

1053
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: Baseball home run Derby today the Bison's home tonight against

1054
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: the Norfolk Tides. Seven o'clock, first pitch downtown the Coca

1055
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: Cola Field. That is the update from One Bill's Drive,

1056
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 1: John Murphy Steve Tasker here until three o'clock today with

1057
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,240
Speaker 1: our One Bills Live show joining us on the subway

1058
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: fresh take. One of the most innovative thinkers about the

1059
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 1: NFL these days. He is He is an inventor of

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Speaker 1: custom predictive NFL analytics and visualized Daddy. You can catch

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Speaker 1: him on Sharp Football Analysis dot com and Sharp football

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00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: Stats dot com and in his book The twenty eighteen

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00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: Football Preview, Warren Sharp's twenty eighteen Football Preview, which I

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00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: just purchased and ride to my house last week. Happy

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Speaker 1: to have Warren Sharp on the line with us, Warren,

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00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Tashker in Buffalo. Thank you very much. Hey,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me on. Guys, looking forward to talking

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Speaker 1: some bills with you. Yeah, we're excited to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: I got the book the other day, first time I've

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Speaker 1: ever purchased it. It is Dance, Warren. That would be

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Speaker 1: the first description I would have, dance loaded with data.

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Speaker 1: I am barely getting started on it after two days

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Speaker 1: over the weekend. Yeah, thanks so much for checking it out.

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Speaker 1: It's definitely the work. It's a product of about just

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00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: over four months of work. I started to stop to

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00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, start writing up team analysis, to get

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00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: into the stats and the data, just quantifying everything about

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00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: what a team did last year. How that wreck final

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00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 1: record occurred. I don't really believe in you are what

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00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: your records as you are. I want to look deeper

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00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 1: to understand the teams and then how they change from

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00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: last year to this year. New coaches, new players, new

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00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: decision making, and what I project these teams will do

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00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: this upcoming season. Warren, thanks for coming on. I just

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00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: want to ask you the thing about analytics is, and

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00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: it's that word that is so intriguing for everybody, predictive.

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00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: What is the what are some of the statistics that are,

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00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: in your opinion, the most predictive of a team's success,

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00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: and what are the best ways to affect those analytics? Well,

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00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: the most overalls that correlates the victory, but it's difficult

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00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 1: to predict is turnover margin. The team that wins the

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00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: turnover margin generally wins eighty percent of the time, but

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00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: it's very difficult to figure out when you are or

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00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: are not going to win the turnover margin. That's going

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00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 1: to be key for you guys this upcoming year, obviously,

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00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: because Tyrod Taylor was the second best quarterback over the

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00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: last three years at limiting his interceptions and you don't

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00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: have that benefit it anymore. You may have more aggressiveness

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00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: from your quarterback. That could result in more touchdowns on

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Speaker 1: one side, but on the other side, it could result

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00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: in more interception. So that's something that I think you

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00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 1: guys are obviously talking about a lot, I'm sure in

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00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 1: terms of being able to predict something that maybe you

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00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 1: don't hear about as much as turnover margin, that would

1105
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: be early down success rate. It's a custom analytic I

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00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: created several years back. It looks at efficiency on early downs.

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00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 1: The reason I looked into this statistic is because you

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00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 1: see so often teams and they flash up on the

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00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: score packages and the graphic packages for the games. They

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00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 1: talk about the different scores and timeouts left and what

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00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 1: a team does on third down. You know they're three

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00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: of ten or whatever the rates are, but they don't

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00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: really look at how often they're avoiding third downs. And

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00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: that's actually far more predictive towards success than is what

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00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: a team actually does on third down. It's avoiding third downs,

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00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: which are so key, and therefore it provides a impetus

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00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: of performance on first and second down, primarily first down.

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00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 1: Getting started off very well on first down it's massively important,

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Speaker 1: and that's something that I talk about a lot in

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Speaker 1: the book. We're with Warren Sharp from Sharp Football Analysis. Hey, Warren,

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00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about your analysis of the

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00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. And you don't mind if I asked an

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00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: occasional stupid questionnaire, do you, because I will I do

1124
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 1: it all the time. What does it mean when you

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Speaker 1: say the twenty seventeen Bills, last year's Bills earn six

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00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: point three Pythagorean wins? What does that mean? So? Pathagorean

1127
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: wins basically looks at how many points that you're scoring

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Speaker 1: relatives towards your overall record. It looks at how often

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Speaker 1: a team was winning by, what margins they were winning by,

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00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 1: and they're basically their ability to earn those wins. So

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00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: in the Bill sense, you're just breaking it down very simply,

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00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:50,720
Speaker 1: matter of factly. While they won nine games, they really

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00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: if you're looking at it from a more analytical perspective

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00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:58,760
Speaker 1: and score agnostic perspective, they literally won just over six games,

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Speaker 1: So they were plus two point seven in that metric,

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00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: and a lot of times what some guys look at

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Speaker 1: and I don't really focus as much on Pythagoraean wins,

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00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: but it was one of the biggest margins in the league,

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00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: the difference between theirs and what they actually recorded. But

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00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: what a lot of guys will look at is they

1141
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 1: want to find the differences the teams that outperformed their

1142
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: pythagory and win total. Those are teams that you might

1143
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 1: want to think maybe come back to Earth a little

1144
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: bit the next year. And then there's conversely, teams that

1145
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: underperformed their Pythagoraean win total. Maybe they only recorded five wins,

1146
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,240
Speaker 1: but they almost had eight wins from a Pythagoraean win total.

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00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 1: Then those might be teams that, hey, they had some

1148
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,439
Speaker 1: really bad buckets some of their games, or a couple

1149
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: games got away from them that they could have won.

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00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 1: You know, you look at what you guys did in

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00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 1: one score games. You went six and two in your

1152
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 1: one score games, so you won a lot of your

1153
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:49,280
Speaker 1: very close games, and that really helped your overall win total.

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00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: But a big picture, you probably weren't as good as

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Speaker 1: a nine win team. One and I have to confess,

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00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: I had a flashback over the weekend reading your book

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00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: to one day last year here in our studio. I

1158
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: walked into our control room and the bills. It was

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00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: December the Bills were in playoff contention. Obviously they made

1160
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 1: it by virtue of the miracle you know in Cincinnati.

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00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 1: But I walked down our control room and said to

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00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,439
Speaker 1: our group, I said, you know, our numbers just don't

1163
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 1: add up. You write in your book and this it

1164
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: struck me when I read it over the weekend. The

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00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: Bills metrics were horrendous in twenty seventeen. We're essentially saying

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00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 1: the same things, aren't we. Absolutely, if you turn the

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00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 1: page anybody has the book or is looking to get

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00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: in the book, just on the number forty five, that's

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00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:32,959
Speaker 1: the page that you want to turn to in the book.

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Speaker 1: And what you can see is there's offensive and defensive metrics. Obviously,

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00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: it ranks the teams one to thirty two. You have

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00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 1: a radar chart there that looks at the different efficiencies,

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00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,439
Speaker 1: and you also have at the bottom lust hand corner

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00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: of the weekly early down successory trends. And what you

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00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: can see is that the Buffalo Bills only won the

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00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: early down successory battle, which I just talked earlier in

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00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: the show. It's very predictive of victory and also correlates

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00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: really well to victory in the NFL. They only won

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00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 1: that in three out of their sixteen games last year.

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00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: They actually finished dead last offensively in early down success

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00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 1: rates and the sixth worst defense in early down success rate,

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00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: and most of their metrics they did not fare very well.

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00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: What they were was a very good team in terms

1184
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: of refusing to throw a lot of interceptions, limiting their turnovers,

1185
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: and really taking advantage of opposing mistakes and capitalizing on them.

1186
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's necessarily the opponent's fault. The Buffalo

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00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: Bills were a very aggressive defense. They forced a lot

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00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: of turnovers, made those turnovers count for them on the scoreboard,

1189
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: and a lot of those flitted games from losses to wins.

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00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: And they were very aggressive from that perspective. But if

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00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: you just look at if you remove the record and

1192
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: you just look at the bones of what this team

1193
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: was last year, it was actually a below average team

1194
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 1: from their efficiency metrics. Yeah, talk a little bit about

1195
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: how this metrics and one of the reasons metrics came

1196
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: about is to give teams a chance going for to

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00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: make better decisions and make themselves more efficient on the

1198
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: football field, and how it seems difficult to do that

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Speaker 1: when you look at a team, a team like Buffalo,

1200
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: They're going to have a new new starting quarterback. They're

1201
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,959
Speaker 1: gonna have two or three new offensive linemen. You're gonna

1202
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: have a new offensive coordinator and new and three or

1203
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: four new prominent players on their front seven defensively, So

1204
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: all those things that change about a team from one

1205
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: year to the next, how do you how do you

1206
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: correlate last year's metrics and how much they're gonna mean

1207
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: going forward? Well, they definitely are a factor, but the

1208
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 1: key is making good decisions. As you alluded to, a

1209
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: team needs to make good decisions, So learn from what

1210
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 1: happened last year and make better decisions this upcoming year,

1211
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: and a few different ways. I think that the Buffalo

1212
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: Bills could improve themselves. For one, last season, they had

1213
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: a fifty percent success rate, and I use success rate

1214
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: as a better indicator of performance then simply yards per play,

1215
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: because as yards per play, it might look great if

1216
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: on third and nine you gain six yards and that's

1217
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 1: a six yard per play game, but in reality, you're

1218
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 1: not getting that first sound, so it's less relevant. Much

1219
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: like a like a five yard gain on first and

1220
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: twenty might seem good because you're gaining five yards on

1221
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 1: that carry. And average carries on first sound average just

1222
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 1: over four. But the reality is you're still not putting

1223
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: much of a dent into your yards to go. Success

1224
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: rate is very important at any rate. The Buffalo Bills,

1225
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 1: when they only use two ride receivers in twelve personnel

1226
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 1: last year, they produced the fifty percent success rate when

1227
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: they passed the ball, but instead they used three wide

1228
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: receivers in eleven personnel seventy percent of the time. They

1229
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 1: rarely use the two wide receiver twelve personnel set, and

1230
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: those plays were forty percent successful, a ten percent reduction

1231
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: in their success rate, but they use those plays many

1232
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: times more frequently than they're twelve personnel passing. Another thing

1233
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 1: they could work on is a young quarterback with a

1234
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 1: younger offensive line. You immediate you think we've got to

1235
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: rely more on the run. We've got to run the

1236
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 1: football more, especially on first sound. Let's establish the run,

1237
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: establish our presence of physicality. But especially with a young quarterback,

1238
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 1: but for all teams in general, passing the football on

1239
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 1: first sound is much more efficient. And even if you

1240
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: do have that young quarterback, you do not want to

1241
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 1: be predictable when you run the football on first down.

1242
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: The defense can figure that out. And what ends up

1243
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: happening is you end up facing second and long and

1244
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: third and long, and that's the worst time to pass

1245
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: the football for a young quarterback because then the defense

1246
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 1: can pin their ears back and they know that you're

1247
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 1: going to be passing the ball in that situation. So

1248
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 1: you want to be passing the ball when the defense

1249
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 1: doesn't know what you're going to do, pass or run,

1250
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 1: and that's on first and ten. So it might seem counterintuitive,

1251
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 1: but you actually want to pass the football more often

1252
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 1: on first sound with a younger quarterback. In addition, you

1253
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: definitely do not want to run the ball on second

1254
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 1: and ten if you happen to throw an incompletion on

1255
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 1: first and ten. But what end up happening. The Buffalo

1256
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: Bills were a team that was very guilty of this

1257
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 1: last seas, and they ran the ball eighty two percent

1258
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 1: of the time on second and ten after an incompletion.

1259
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 1: Those plays produced just three point four yards per carry

1260
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 1: and they gained just a thirteen percent success rate, so

1261
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 1: it was miserable. But the Buffalo Bills were very if

1262
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:18,439
Speaker 1: they passed the ball on first down and they didn't

1263
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 1: gain anything, or through an incompletion, they were very likely

1264
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 1: to run the ball on second and ten because they

1265
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,919
Speaker 1: didn't want to go pass, pass past punt. But you've

1266
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 1: got to trust the analytics and the numbers and play

1267
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 1: into the more advanced at the advantageous situations. So there's

1268
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 1: just a few things that the Bills can do differently,

1269
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: even though they've got a lot working against them this year,

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Speaker 1: to be more efficient and have better success than the

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Speaker 1: otherwise would on the line with Warren Sharp of Sharp

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Speaker 1: Football Analysis dot Com is the author of the Warren

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Speaker 1: Sharp twenty eighteen Football Preview, which is out now available. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I like the long essay you wrote at the top

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Speaker 1: of the book, not dealing with any one team in particular,

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Speaker 1: but you talk about improving efficiency in pro football. You

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Speaker 1: had a number of ideas for all teams to improve

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Speaker 1: their efficiency. That really is what you think analytics is

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Speaker 1: all about a teams, right, like to avoid the inefficiencies

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Speaker 1: that exist in current football. Why do those inefficiencies exist

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Speaker 1: and why do they persist? Do you think? That is

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Speaker 1: a great question, and I think a lot of it

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Speaker 1: comes from more so just a fear, a fear of

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Speaker 1: doing something a little bit different, a fear of having

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Speaker 1: to explain yourself after the game if you end up

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Speaker 1: losing by suggesting that it was your call as a

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Speaker 1: coach to do something that was based more on the numbers,

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Speaker 1: as opposed to, hey, we put our best players out

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Speaker 1: there and put it in their hands and they had

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Speaker 1: to perform, and we just came up short. Like it's

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Speaker 1: more so taking the blame on yourself as a coach

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Speaker 1: for making a decision that might not work as opposed

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Speaker 1: to just making a more comfortable situate decision that is

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Speaker 1: more familiar around the league. But the problem is that

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Speaker 1: if you do the same things that everybody else is

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Speaker 1: doing in the league and that everybody thinks is the

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Speaker 1: right thing to do, you're actually not gaining any type

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Speaker 1: of edge whatsoever unless you have vastly better personnel, and

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Speaker 1: I think we all agree that the Bills do not.

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Speaker 1: So it's a perfect time for the Bills to try

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Speaker 1: to think a little bit outside the box and make

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Speaker 1: decisions that are based a little bit more on the

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01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 1: analytically correct thing to do. And most of these things,

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Speaker 1: as you read in the beginning, John, they're not very

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Speaker 1: dramatic earth shattering, like you've got to try to use

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Speaker 1: these crazy formation that no teams use, and you got

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Speaker 1: to make these play calls that nobody would ever think

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Speaker 1: to do. It's just about making more intelligent decisions, thinking

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Speaker 1: a little bit more about what you're doing, why you're

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Speaker 1: doing it. For instance, huddling, what is the purpose of huddling.

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Speaker 1: You're giving the defensive opportunities you adjust personnel. I'm not

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Speaker 1: suggesting you go up tempo super fast all the time,

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Speaker 1: but why don't you stay up near the line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 1: call out your play, use hand signals as necessary, but

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Speaker 1: keep that defense on the field, keep those guys tired

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Speaker 1: and not. The Patriots do this very well, and I

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Speaker 1: think a lot of teams gain a lot from what

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Speaker 1: they look at the Patriots. And when I look at

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Speaker 1: all the different things that an analytically smart team should do,

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Speaker 1: the Patriots are doing most of those things right now,

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Speaker 1: even though they have room for improvement, as I know

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Speaker 1: in their chapter in the book. But the reality is,

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Speaker 1: if teams started to implement a little bit more of

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Speaker 1: these ideas, and there's what like twenty five or thirty

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Speaker 1: of them, even if they just incorporated like ten or

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Speaker 1: three of them, three to ten, whatever the number is,

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Speaker 1: they will be better this upcoming season than they otherwise

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Speaker 1: would be. Warren, give us one example of maybe the

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Speaker 1: most common. I know, you watch football and you go

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Speaker 1: through this, and you know your analytics as well as anybody,

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Speaker 1: and you know what you found, and it's hard for

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Speaker 1: us to digest it because it's so comprehensive. Give us

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Speaker 1: an example of one coaching decision that continually perhaps frustrates

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Speaker 1: you when you see a coach an a lot of

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Speaker 1: coaches across the league make this same or do the

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Speaker 1: same that make the same kind of decision or exhibit

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Speaker 1: the same behavior that your analytics just says that is

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Speaker 1: just absolutely wrong to do. Is there an example that

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01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:07,919
Speaker 1: you can point to. Oh yeah, there are so many.

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Speaker 1: One of the big ones that gets to me is

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Speaker 1: when we talk about our third down running back and

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Speaker 1: trotting him on on third down to primarily act as

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Speaker 1: a pass catcher. I know they say that these guys

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Speaker 1: can block, and that's why they're out there too, But

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Speaker 1: the reality is, if you just wanted somebody in there

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Speaker 1: to block, you could easily throw a fullback or a

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Speaker 1: tight end in there. Is that could get the job

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Speaker 1: done a little bit better than these scatbacks that are

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Speaker 1: going to be out there for third down. Yet the

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Speaker 1: reality is the optimum time to pass the football tour

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Speaker 1: running back is actually on first and ten. It's not

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Speaker 1: on third down and long, and that's when they most

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01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 1: often get targeted. But their success right on third and

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01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 1: long is the worst of any type of target. If

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Speaker 1: you throw the ball to any tight end or any

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01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 1: wide receiver, you're more likely to get a first down.

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Speaker 1: If you're in a third down situation, then you are

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Speaker 1: if you throw the football to your running back. So

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Speaker 1: it's very infrequent that you would actually want to target

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Speaker 1: your running back on third down, except if you're in

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Speaker 1: a situation where you just want to get a couple

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Speaker 1: of yards to settle for field goal. That's the time

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Speaker 1: that you would want to do that. But most of

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Speaker 1: the time you want to throw the football to your

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Speaker 1: running backs on first down. But there are tons of

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Speaker 1: different examples that I have throughout this game throughout the book.

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Speaker 1: One another one that's really aggravating is when commentators talk

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Speaker 1: about a second and short and this is a perfect

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Speaker 1: time for a shot play down the field because this

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Speaker 1: is a great opportunity because then you can easily get

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Speaker 1: the first down on third down. What The reality is

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Speaker 1: after a shot play, the defense is going to be

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Speaker 1: trotting out their short yard is package. And the truth

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Speaker 1: is that getting a first down on second and short,

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Speaker 1: there's no time. In the NFL, it's easier to convert

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Speaker 1: a first down than is on second and short. What

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Speaker 1: I would use seem to do hurry up, get your

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Speaker 1: team to line a scrimmage after a nice eight or

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Speaker 1: nine yard game on first dound with whatever personnel you

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Speaker 1: have on the field, and call a run play. And

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Speaker 1: teams need to run the football a little bit more often.

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Speaker 1: It's basically a slam dunk first down. When you do

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Speaker 1: something like that, but you try to throw these shot

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Speaker 1: plays down the field, your interception rate goes up. It's

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Speaker 1: like settling for a three pointer on a wide open

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01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 1: fast break in basketball. You might get it, but more

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01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 1: often than not, you want those two points that come

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01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 1: on that breakaway slam dunk. That's what generating first sounds

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Speaker 1: do for a team is put them closer to the

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Speaker 1: end zo closer to scoring points. You need to accumulate

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Speaker 1: those first downs, and that's a great time to do it,

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Speaker 1: as opposed to taking a low percentage shot play down

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Speaker 1: the field. He weren't. In your opening essay, you talked

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Speaker 1: about variety of things. You said, some twenty five ideas

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Speaker 1: of how to make pro football more efficient. I was

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Speaker 1: intrigued by this. You said, teams have to avoid play

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Speaker 1: caller fatigue. What is that and how do you avoid that? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a fascinating one because it's the concept that I

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Speaker 1: thought of as I was working a little bit towards

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Speaker 1: this book and play Callers, I look a lot at

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Speaker 1: tendencies and play caller personal grouping, the personal groupings they

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Speaker 1: trot out onto the field, and then just their creativity

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Speaker 1: in the second half. We all know most of these guys,

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01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 1: they have very nice teams to start the game the

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Speaker 1: first quarter, they have their game scripts, they come up

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Speaker 1: with some creative things to utilize, and then far too

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01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 1: often we see they don't end up coming back to

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Speaker 1: these things enough in the later in the game or

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Speaker 1: writing some wrinkles off of those plays that worked. Well.

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Speaker 1: What ends up happening is they get into these situations

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Speaker 1: in the second half or either they have a lead

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Speaker 1: or they're trailing, and they just use the same personnel

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Speaker 1: groupings and run the same type of plays repetitively, whether

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Speaker 1: they're leading by a little bit or they're trailing. You know,

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Speaker 1: you always say, oh, three wise, four wise, we're going

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Speaker 1: to do the same thing because we're down by ten

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Speaker 1: points here, and they're just continuously do stale, incorporate stale

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Speaker 1: play calling. And then on the flip side, if the

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Speaker 1: team is winning. And we saw the Indianapolis quotes, they

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Speaker 1: actually had the lead in the vast majority of their

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Speaker 1: games last year, and nine of their sixteen games they

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Speaker 1: actually were leading at halftime in their first eleven games.

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Speaker 1: They had the lead at halftime in eight of their

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Speaker 1: first eleven games, but they only won four games all

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Speaker 1: year long. They blew so many fourth quarter leads everybody

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Speaker 1: looks at the Indianapolis quotes thinking they were a terrible

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Speaker 1: team last year. The only only the teams that met

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Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, the New England Patriots and the

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles, had halftime leads more than eight out of

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Speaker 1: their first then in eight of their first eleven games

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01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 1: last year, like the Cults did. But they had these

1432
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Speaker 1: predictable play calls where if they were using three plus

1433
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 1: wide receivers, it was always a path. If they were

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01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 1: using two or less wide receivers, it was almost always

1435
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 1: a run and the defense can key off of these things.

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Speaker 1: So teams need to really think and study. I think

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01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 1: play callers need to have some training in situational training,

1438
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:33,640
Speaker 1: some military type training, what to do in stressful situations,

1439
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 1: how to relax your mind, become more creatives and just

1440
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:40,639
Speaker 1: think a little bit more creatively in the second half

1441
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 1: of games once the play sheets run out, to come

1442
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:45,679
Speaker 1: up with new and creative ideas and things to kind

1443
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 1: of trick the defense and get the defense to think

1444
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 1: a little bit harder as opposed to settling back on

1445
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 1: habits that they're discomfortable. Was comfortable play calls that they

1446
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:58,640
Speaker 1: make all the time in those situations they weren't. You

1447
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:00,879
Speaker 1: mentioned a couple of times how tea teams might benefit

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01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 1: from some of your some of your suppositions here, how

1449
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 1: can What do you think fans would get from your

1450
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 1: book and maybe not just better or fantasy players, but

1451
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 1: just fans, bills fans. What could they get from your book? Well,

1452
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:15,679
Speaker 1: the interesting part about my book and what I try

1453
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 1: to do is there's so many, you know, fantasy football

1454
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 1: magazines out there, and then there are a few that

1455
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 1: are like sports betting preview types of magazines. I try

1456
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:26,759
Speaker 1: to write this book for just NFL fans in general

1457
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 1: and for the teams in general, to understand what these

1458
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 1: teams are and how they're built, and what they're going

1459
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 1: to look like this season, why they performed poorly or

1460
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 1: well last year, and then what I think they're going

1461
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 1: to do this year. I actually then then people can

1462
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Speaker 1: take that and use it for fantasy, and they can

1463
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 1: take that and use it for betting. But the goal

1464
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,600
Speaker 1: is just to get a better handle and grasp on

1465
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 1: these teams. And my hope is that when people read

1466
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 1: through this book and maybe look at their favorite team,

1467
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 1: look at teams in their division, study some of the

1468
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:57,560
Speaker 1: things as a front, and then look over all the

1469
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 1: course of the NFL, you can get a better understanding

1470
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 1: of the sport of football in general and why teams

1471
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 1: make decisions that they do, why a lot of times

1472
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 1: those are poor decisions, and how teams can improve themselves.

1473
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 1: And it helps you become a more educated fan and

1474
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 1: better understand what you're watching on Sundays. And I think

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01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 1: that's very useful for you know, fans in general, so

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01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 1: that they actually have higher higher ceilings in terms of

1477
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 1: what their expectations levels are for the football, for football

1478
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 1: and for what they're watching and consuming on a weekly

1479
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 1: basis in the NFL. Well, Warren, you've put together this

1480
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 1: book and it's it's deep. I mean it's first right,

1481
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:38,720
Speaker 1: it's dense, and I was and after you've gone through

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Speaker 1: this with all thirty two teams in the National Football League,

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01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 1: You've gone through all the analytics, You've you've compiled them

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01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 1: and kind of digested them and kind of put them

1485
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 1: out there. Now that you look back on the league, Now,

1486
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 1: what are your give us some dark horse candidates for

1487
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 1: who's going to be a team that will surprise people

1488
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 1: this year? Who's going to be the Los Angeles Rams,

1489
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 1: or who's going to be the Philadelphia Eagles this year

1490
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:03,640
Speaker 1: maybe coming out of nowhere to be something that we

1491
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 1: haven't seen them be before. Well, I think maybe not

1492
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 1: having quite as high of a ceiling as those teams,

1493
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:13,679
Speaker 1: But I think a similar trajectory would be a team

1494
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 1: like the Chicago Bears. You know, the Bears only won

1495
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:18,839
Speaker 1: five games last year. I did not like their coaching

1496
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 1: that they had last season with John Foxendal Loggins and

1497
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:25,640
Speaker 1: what they were asking mister Trubiski to do. He is

1498
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 1: very much a shotgun passer in college, and they put

1499
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 1: him under center far too much. He was great throwing

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01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:32,560
Speaker 1: the ball to the middle of the field, and I

1501
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:34,640
Speaker 1: illustrate why throwing the football to the middle of the

1502
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 1: field is a very efficient spot on the football field

1503
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 1: to throw the ball too. He was great when he

1504
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:42,639
Speaker 1: threw the ball there. But they called far too many passes.

1505
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:45,679
Speaker 1: You know, obviously they can't control where exactly which guys

1506
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 1: are going to get open, but they didn't dial up

1507
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 1: enough to get advantages towards the middle of the field

1508
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 1: to have a higher target rate to that soft spot

1509
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:55,560
Speaker 1: on the defense. In addition, you have a guy like

1510
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 1: Jordan Howard who was infinitely better running out of shotgun,

1511
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:01,719
Speaker 1: but they ran with him far too much, you under center.

1512
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:04,839
Speaker 1: Now you've got a brand new coaching staff in Chicago

1513
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 1: that I think is really going to take the strength

1514
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 1: of this football team and look to build on that.

1515
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 1: And I think if you look around the league and

1516
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 1: you look at quarterbacks who have had okay rookie years

1517
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 1: and then come in to their sophomore season, you see

1518
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 1: what Jared Goss did with better coaching in LA with

1519
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 1: the Rams last season. You look at a guy with

1520
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 1: very good coaching in Philadelphia that you just mentioned. These

1521
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 1: are all second year quarterbacks and Carson Wentz and Jared

1522
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 1: with better coaching coming in there, they were able to

1523
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 1: have better success that sophomore season. I think with the

1524
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 1: pieces that they brought in there, and I really loved

1525
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 1: Vic Banjo and what he does as a defensive corder,

1526
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 1: I think highly underrated. This is a very good dark course.

1527
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 1: Now they've got a difficult schedule. They play in the NFC,

1528
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 1: which is the worst conference to play him because there's

1529
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 1: so many good competitive teams there with so many good quarterbacks.

1530
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:58,599
Speaker 1: But I think this is a team that could exceed

1531
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 1: their projected wins. I think a team like the Indian

1532
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 1: Offus Colts. They're another great example where they looked really

1533
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 1: bad last year only won four games, but the reality

1534
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 1: is this team was far better than that, and even

1535
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 1: without Andrew Luck, I think that they're going to have

1536
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 1: a lot of production and improve with better coaching and

1537
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 1: just more opportunity to get their quarterback experience. If you remember,

1538
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 1: he came in from New England last season right before

1539
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 1: week one. He couldn't even start week one because he

1540
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:29,599
Speaker 1: didn't know the playbook, but they worked Jacoby Brissette into

1541
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 1: the offense. I think with a whole off season, with

1542
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 1: a new coaching staff and things that Frank Brek is

1543
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 1: going to bring, I think that's a potential team that

1544
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 1: will also exceed their current projections. Probably not as high

1545
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 1: of as ceiling to make it to the super Bowl

1546
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:44,720
Speaker 1: and win it and make deep into the playoffs, but

1547
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 1: they're a team that could outperform expectations that are currently

1548
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:49,720
Speaker 1: set on them right now, or you give us a

1549
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 1: lot to think about. The book is fascinating and I

1550
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 1: bought mine at Amazon. You can get it there or

1551
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 1: at the Sharp Football Analysis dot com. Is that right?

1552
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 1: That's correct. If you want the PD you can get

1553
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:02,680
Speaker 1: it from Sharp Football Analysis dot com. If you want

1554
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 1: to book, it's a two hundred and fifty two page

1555
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 1: printed book, eight and a half by eleven. You can

1556
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 1: get that off at Amazon. That's the sound of the book.

1557
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 1: That's not big, it's big. Hey, Warren, thanks for this.

1558
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 1: It's good to talk here. I hope we talk again sometime.

1559
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 1: Sounds great. Thanks for me on guys, Thanks Warren Sharp,

1560
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:22,719
Speaker 1: Sharp Football Analysis dot com. He has written his twenty

1561
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:25,680
Speaker 1: eighteen football preview. It's filled with stuff we're gonna talk

1562
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 1: about Steve and I some of his some of his

1563
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 1: contentions here and Warren joined the sound the Subway Fresh

1564
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 1: take Highline, Subway Eat Fresh. I mean it's got everything,

1565
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 1: It's got everything. It's almost got too much, Steve, Really, yeah,

1566
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:41,560
Speaker 1: it's almost impossible. Yeah, it's it's just so much. But

1567
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 1: you can break it down and get you know, pick

1568
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 1: out the favorite team, your favorite teams or whatever you want.

1569
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 1: But there's enough in there to keep you busy well

1570
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 1: into training camp. And I'm like, I'm kind of like

1571
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 1: you were talking in the break, it's a bookie you

1572
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 1: may not go back to once the season starts. Well,

1573
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 1: you asked the question, and it's a good it was

1574
01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 1: a good one, and Warren answered it um does everything.

1575
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 1: There's all of twenty eighteen for any team, depending on

1576
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 1: what happened the year before, because that almost is the

1577
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:10,839
Speaker 1: contention of his book, right like, here's what and it's detailed.

1578
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 1: Here's what the Bills did in twenty seventeen. Here's what

1579
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 1: went well, Here's what didn't go well. Here's what they were,

1580
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 1: what they were able to do, what they weren't able

1581
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 1: to do. Sometimes, you know, the slate is clean. You

1582
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 1: wipe the sleep clean. When you start a new season,

1583
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:26,640
Speaker 1: I think of how differently the Bill's defense is going

1584
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 1: to look this year than it did a year ago.

1585
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 1: And I think one of the things you get out

1586
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 1: of this is a sense of the organization, the direction

1587
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:37,720
Speaker 1: they're heading, where they're at, get a snapshot of where

1588
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 1: they are and like I said, a direction and it's

1589
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 1: like he said about the Chicago Bears. And I saw

1590
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 1: mister Trubisky play last year too. I was very impressed

1591
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 1: with him. But I agree with him. His analytics were

1592
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 1: spot on. I think Trubisky was being asked to do

1593
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:53,600
Speaker 1: something he wasn't playing an offense he knew, you know,

1594
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 1: or an offense that he was good at, and I

1595
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 1: didn't know whether to attribute that to what they were

1596
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 1: asking him to do or whether he was just a

1597
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback struggling. And I think he's right. I think

1598
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 1: we give a kid what he has been successful in

1599
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 1: the past. As Trubisky was in the shotgun was pretty effective.

1600
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:12,599
Speaker 1: And I've heard a lot of coaches say the exact

1601
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 1: same thing, that get your players where they play their

1602
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 1: best football and put a bunch of them together and

1603
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 1: then and then coach them up and let them do

1604
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 1: what they do best. And that's I think that's a

1605
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:28,599
Speaker 1: great philosophy and it's one of the great truth truths

1606
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 1: about football. Get your players to do what they do best.

1607
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 1: To talk about there, we'll do it when we come back.

1608
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 1: You're welcome to join us as well about that or

1609
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 1: about which AFC playoff teams in twenty seventeen. We'll go

1610
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:40,639
Speaker 1: back to the playoffs in twenty eighteen. We got full

1611
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 1: lines open for that. Eighth three, five fifty and toll

1612
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 1: free one eight eight, five fifty two five fifty. Steve

1613
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 1: and I back with more one Bills Live from One

1614
01:17:49,040 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 1: Bill Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. I'll come back

1615
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 1: in one day's Live. John Murphy, Steve Tasker. We just

1616
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 1: spent the commercial break talking about our last guest, Warren

1617
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 1: Sharp from a Sharp Football Analysis dot Com. It's twenty

1618
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:17,840
Speaker 1: eighteen football preview. We had our listeners can't say but

1619
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 1: the MSG people, and we had a picture a mug shot,

1620
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:22,600
Speaker 1: not a mug shot, but you know, a portrait of

1621
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 1: Warren Sharp on it either Ryan Miller look alike. Did

1622
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 1: you notice that I did not notice that. Yeah, he

1623
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 1: looks like Ryan and Miller again. The former Sabers Coalie. Yeah, yeah,

1624
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:34,720
Speaker 1: he looks it looks like him. Look, I am not

1625
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:39,679
Speaker 1: I am not predisposed to discount analytics. I am also

1626
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 1: not in favor of letting analytics rule the day for

1627
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 1: every football decision you make. What among the many things

1628
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 1: I like about Warren Sharpe's book and about his approach

1629
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 1: is that he's not He's not one of those simple

1630
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 1: guys that, oh, don't punt on fourth down? Well, of

1631
01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 1: course you have to punt once a while on fourth down.

1632
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 1: He says stuff like pass on first down, Uh, don't

1633
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 1: bother huddling all the time, pass from more two wide

1634
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 1: receiver sets as opposed to three, use a pre snap

1635
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 1: and post snap motion. I think Warren's done a pretty

1636
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 1: good job of isolating what goes on in the league,

1637
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:14,720
Speaker 1: applying the numbers to it, and seeing whether you know,

1638
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 1: conventional wisdom works or not. And for that I appreciate

1639
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 1: his approach. I really do. I think when you look

1640
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:23,720
Speaker 1: at it, one of the things the reason teams have

1641
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:26,760
Speaker 1: gotten to the point where there they are, and it

1642
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 1: kind of plays into the analytics a little bit, is

1643
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 1: that offenses have always been kind of innovative and they've

1644
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 1: tried to come up with new things, and you look

1645
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 1: back over the years, you can say, you know who

1646
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 1: wasn't first said, hey, let's take this tight end out.

1647
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 1: Let's put this wide receiver and split him out, And

1648
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:44,600
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, all of a sudden, you've got

1649
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 1: a three wide receiver package that's doing great things, and

1650
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 1: teams have to adapt to defend it. They have to

1651
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 1: make personnel changes, They got to make packages for it.

1652
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 1: Same thing when they start switching in and out of personnel,

1653
01:19:56,520 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 1: it forces a defense to adapt. Same thing happens when

1654
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 1: you start, you know, throwing on first down, when you

1655
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 1: start doing you know, making personnel substitution, when you go

1656
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 1: no huddle. And I think he's right in the sense

1657
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 1: of this. I think for an offense, as an offensive

1658
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 1: player or an offensive coach, you've got to start trying

1659
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 1: new things. You remember a handful of years ago, when

1660
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 1: Aaron Hernandez was still playing for the New England Patriots,

1661
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 1: they put him in the backfield. They did go out

1662
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 1: with two two tights, three wide receivers. Aaron Hernandez was

1663
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 1: considered a tight end. All of a sudden, he lines

1664
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 1: up and they're handing it to him as a running back.

1665
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 1: That throws a defense into real problems, and it's you

1666
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 1: can throw analytics out out the window because whether you

1667
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 1: run or pass, the defense doesn't know what you're gonna do.

1668
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 1: And that's the real key. Well, that's why I think,

1669
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 1: and that's where I think sometimes adherence to analytics people

1670
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:48,639
Speaker 1: get kind of lost, and it's like the numbers mean everything,

1671
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 1: Well they don't. Personnel matchups mean a lot, maybe more

1672
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:55,200
Speaker 1: than the numbers mean. I like Warren Sharp's approach when

1673
01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:57,680
Speaker 1: he talks about try this, try this, do this on

1674
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 1: first down, don't throw it on second and ten, or

1675
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:03,599
Speaker 1: don't run it on second and ten. Those are helpful.

1676
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 1: But what really matters, I think is who's on the field,

1677
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 1: who's making place, who's capable of making places, who are

1678
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 1: they going up against. That's for the other part of it,

1679
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 1: where it's not just total surrender, total adherence to whatever

1680
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:17,160
Speaker 1: the numbers indicate that I think gets lost sometimes when

1681
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 1: people discuss analytic Yeah, and there is you talk to

1682
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:22,600
Speaker 1: coaches now and I listen, there are a lot of

1683
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 1: very intelligent, very secure coaches in the NFL, and the

1684
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 1: word that comes out more often than analytics does about

1685
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 1: what's a successful team does and what a successful team

1686
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 1: is not able to do it? It doesn't. They don't

1687
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 1: use the word analytics. They use the word matchups. We've

1688
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 1: got a really good player, and we will put him

1689
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 1: in positions where you're gonna have a hard time finding

1690
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 1: him and have a hard time matching up on him,

1691
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to jump through some hoops to

1692
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 1: come up with a scheme that allows you to do it.

1693
01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:54,800
Speaker 1: And if you don't do a good job of it,

1694
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 1: we have other guys that will match up and beat

1695
01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 1: you in another place because you're you're too preoccupied with

1696
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 1: that guy. So it's that kind of mentality rather than

1697
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 1: strictly numbers, run here past their formation here, no huddle there,

1698
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 1: that formula. It all sounds good until you get in

1699
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 1: there where you've got a two wide receiver, and Warren

1700
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 1: Sharper said, you've got a two wide receivers that teams

1701
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 1: should throw more out of two wides. Well, if you've

1702
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 1: got two wide receivers who don't match up at all

1703
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 1: with Durrell Reevas and Richard Sherman on the other team,

1704
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 1: you're not They're not going to get open. And that

1705
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:34,839
Speaker 1: analytics goes right out the window. Warren's got seven pages

1706
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:38,759
Speaker 1: on the Buffalo Bills and their analytics review from twenty seventeen.

1707
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:42,240
Speaker 1: Do you think the Bills have all that information already?

1708
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 1: And will they use that information? Bills say analytics people

1709
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 1: as well? Absolutely, who do the analytics that coach McDermott

1710
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 1: wants them to do? So do you think they have

1711
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 1: this info or do you think they would incorporate this info?

1712
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 1: And well, here's the thing that what every team tries

1713
01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 1: to do is and the head coaches talk about it,

1714
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 1: the coordinators talk about it, and they also pull in

1715
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:03,800
Speaker 1: They all have friends in the coaching industry. They talk

1716
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 1: to each other and say, what are you guys doing,

1717
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 1: and what are you what's the information that you think

1718
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 1: is useful? And they try and get it and when

1719
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 1: they do, then you still got to sit down and say, well,

1720
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:15,680
Speaker 1: they did it this way, and this team over here

1721
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 1: did it another way, and this team did it a

1722
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:19,719
Speaker 1: third way, and we have to do it differently because

1723
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 1: we don't have any the good players they do, or

1724
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 1: we have a player that they can't match. So it

1725
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 1: comes down to the you know, the predictive nature of

1726
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 1: knowing your guys better than theirs and using him in

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01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 1: such a way as that they can't defend him. Hey,

1728
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:37,759
Speaker 1: Warren Sharp's book, it's pretty interesting. I can see myself

1729
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 1: spending time with this book, like early in the week

1730
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 1: before the Bills play their next opponent Monday or Tuesday.

1731
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:46,599
Speaker 1: Depth of knowledge, you know, background information. Yeah, But as

1732
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:49,480
Speaker 1: the season goes along, it'll be less valuable, right, absolutely,

1733
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:53,760
Speaker 1: because now we're gonna have the Bill's defense and all

1734
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 1: the things that had last year's irrelevant because this is

1735
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 1: a completely different team. They've got the same uniforms. And

1736
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:02,439
Speaker 1: that's about it, right, I mean, that's exactly what it is.

1737
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 1: It's it's it's gonna be completely different team, a different identity,

1738
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:08,559
Speaker 1: and they're gonna look different. Let's hear from you about

1739
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 1: our topic of the day, and it deals with the

1740
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:15,800
Speaker 1: I guess more simpler, simpler concepts. The six playoff teams

1741
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 1: in the AFC last year. Of those six, who's gonna

1742
01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 1: make it this year? Last year you had Patriot, Steelers, Bills, Jaguars, Titans,

1743
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:24,639
Speaker 1: Chiefs from the AFC in the playoffs. Now how many

1744
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:26,760
Speaker 1: of those make it to the playoffs this year? And

1745
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 1: why the phone nine er? But if you'd like to

1746
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 1: discuss eight oh three five fifty or from outside Buffalo,

1747
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 1: it's a toll free call at one eight eight eight

1748
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:38,560
Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. We got tweets on the

1749
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 1: Twitter sheet. What do you got there? See? Yeah? From

1750
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 1: Steph go Bills. He has which teams will repeat in

1751
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:45,040
Speaker 1: the playoffs. He has all of them, and he said, well,

1752
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:47,280
Speaker 1: except maybe the Bills. Because as much as I like

1753
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 1: to be optimistic, I've been a fan too long to

1754
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:51,400
Speaker 1: get my hopes up too high this early in the year.

1755
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:54,639
Speaker 1: Go Bills need more facts and proof than kool aid.

1756
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 1: But I'm optimistic every September. So she thinks all those

1757
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 1: teams are gonna go back, except maybe the Bills, because

1758
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 1: she's a Bills fan. Steve Noble tweets in almost in

1759
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:08,719
Speaker 1: response Steve Noble's tweet, I believe New England and Pittsburgh

1760
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 1: will be back, he says, I just poured a fresh

1761
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:14,599
Speaker 1: glass of kool aid, and I truly believe the Bills

1762
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:16,679
Speaker 1: will surprise to me back as well. The Bills coaching

1763
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 1: staff is very solid and underrated nationally. The other three

1764
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 1: teams will be the Chargers, Texans and the Colts. So

1765
01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 1: Bills He's got Bills, New England, Pittsburgh Chargers, Texans, Colts,

1766
01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 1: and that's four new teams from last year, right, are

1767
01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 1: no three new teams? That's right? And there's other question

1768
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 1: and then you know, you get into the nuances of this.

1769
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 1: From Susan Crawley, she says, no, to the Jaguars, if

1770
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:40,760
Speaker 1: Marcel Darius gets suspended, that's going to be a big

1771
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:43,520
Speaker 1: loss for them. I don't think Blake Bortles his spectacular

1772
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:46,840
Speaker 1: and the Buffalo Bills will make the playoffs on their own,

1773
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:49,600
Speaker 1: she says. So you get her. Getting an all the

1774
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 1: way across the spectrum from everybody, and obviously you're allegiance

1775
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 1: to whatever team you have makes a big difference for you.

1776
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:58,240
Speaker 1: But there's no there's no question every team has some

1777
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 1: question marks. You go to the Jaguars, as good as

1778
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:03,800
Speaker 1: their defense was a year ago, their offense really overachieved

1779
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:05,639
Speaker 1: at the end of the season. Now, maybe that gives

1780
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 1: them a springboard to take another step. But by the

1781
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 1: same token, Blake Bortles is still Blake Bortles, and he

1782
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:16,640
Speaker 1: has gotten to the point where they're gonna have to

1783
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:19,160
Speaker 1: ask him to do more for them to take another step.

1784
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 1: Trying to repeat from Marcel Wilson. I think the number

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01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:26,839
Speaker 1: will be two repeaters with the Patriots and the Steelers

1786
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:30,599
Speaker 1: being repeat playoff contenders. Their strong quarterback play will win

1787
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:34,799
Speaker 1: the day. At top mediocre divisions, the Chiefs, Titans, Bills,

1788
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 1: and Jaguars have not solidified their place with consistent quarterback play.

1789
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:40,760
Speaker 1: They could, but not a lock. Yeah, I don't think

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01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:43,600
Speaker 1: they're a lock. I do think Kansas City has a

1791
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:45,800
Speaker 1: pretty good chance to be a repeat playoff team, I

1792
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 1: really do. Yeah, they're yeah, I mean they could. You know,

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01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:55,800
Speaker 1: we didn't talk about Denvers Denver a playoff team this

1794
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:59,559
Speaker 1: year with case Keenum out there. They've always been last

1795
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 1: handful of years, they've been a quarterback away. Even when

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01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning was there, all he had to I mean,

1797
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:05,479
Speaker 1: that guy couldn't throw fifteen yards down the field and

1798
01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:07,839
Speaker 1: they won the Super Bowl with him with that defense,

1799
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 1: and their defense got a little better with Bradley Chubb

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01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 1: being drafted on the other side of Von Miller. So

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01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 1: they've got it they're gonna have. You got to expect

1802
01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:21,040
Speaker 1: them to have a phenomenal pass rush. But case Keenum

1803
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 1: had an outlier of a season last year in Minnesota

1804
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:28,120
Speaker 1: that is not indicative of his career. Although he had

1805
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:32,680
Speaker 1: a phenomenal year case, Keenum was not thought to be

1806
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 1: anything more than a journeyman pedestrian backup, and he knocks

1807
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 1: it out of the park last year, signs the big

1808
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:41,760
Speaker 1: contract in Denver or hanging their hopes on him, and

1809
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 1: I that's you know, you talk about a question mark,

1810
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:47,400
Speaker 1: that's one that kind of mirrors what the Bills are

1811
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 1: looking at with their quarterback situation. But they've got three

1812
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:55,719
Speaker 1: choices and the Denver Broncos are hanging at all on Keenum.

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01:27:56,800 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 1: One more tweet, This is from postman Pilot New England

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01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:03,360
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, Kansas City, Jacksonville most likely to repeat in

1815
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:06,639
Speaker 1: my eyes with Tennessee being replaced by Rivers and the Chargers.

1816
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:09,000
Speaker 1: I have to drink that cool laid along with Tasker

1817
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 1: and say, Buffalo sneaks in for back to back appearances.

1818
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:15,120
Speaker 1: If not, Houston should be much improved. Could the Bills

1819
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:17,599
Speaker 1: sneak in again? I mean right, there was a sneak

1820
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 1: in last year? Oh, were you're kidding me? Yeah, they

1821
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:22,679
Speaker 1: didn't know they were in until you know, somebody else

1822
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:25,080
Speaker 1: was over. Yeah, that's right, But it was that kind

1823
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 1: of year as well. Baltimore was struggling. All these teams.

1824
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:30,639
Speaker 1: You know, the Chiefs got off to a fast start

1825
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 1: and then stumbled across the finish line, and the Chargers

1826
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:35,120
Speaker 1: couldn't get out of the blocks and then sprinted to

1827
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:39,080
Speaker 1: the Finnish line. Yet all these teams, Jacksonville coming from

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01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 1: nowhere with a phenomenal defensive effort to carry their team

1829
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:46,599
Speaker 1: through Pittsburgh kind of and New England kind of plugging along.

1830
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:47,920
Speaker 1: You kind of knew they were going to be there

1831
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 1: with probably from about week twelve on, there was no

1832
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:52,760
Speaker 1: doubt they were going to be on. So you got

1833
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:55,000
Speaker 1: all these other teams that are and the South was

1834
01:28:55,880 --> 01:29:02,960
Speaker 1: a mess. AFC South was a mess. Tennessee, Jacksonville, Indianapolis.

1835
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 1: You knew they were kind of gonna struggle that year.

1836
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 1: And then Houston looked like they were gonna be the

1837
01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 1: team before Deshaun Watson goes down. So that's a team

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01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 1: that I want to see play this year. Houston. They're

1839
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 1: going to be an interesting, interesting wild card team, whether

1840
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:20,600
Speaker 1: they make the playoffs as a wild card or not.

1841
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 1: I think they're just more of a I'm saying big

1842
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 1: question mark and possibility because they've got so much talent

1843
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:27,960
Speaker 1: down there, and they can put it together. They're gonna

1844
01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 1: be hard for anybody in the conference to beat. All Right,

1845
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:31,600
Speaker 1: we got a lot to talk about. We'd love to

1846
01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:33,640
Speaker 1: involve you. The phone line's open at eight oh three

1847
01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 1: five fifty and toll free one eight eight by fifty

1848
01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:38,720
Speaker 1: two five fifty. Coming up at the top of the

1849
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:42,200
Speaker 1: next hour. Andy Benoit from Sports Illustrated an MMQB. But

1850
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:44,680
Speaker 1: come on back for more. John Murphy, Steve Tasker, One

1851
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:47,439
Speaker 1: Bills Live from One Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo

1852
01:29:47,520 --> 01:30:02,559
Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Welcome back to the show. John murphying Steve

1853
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:05,920
Speaker 1: Tasker here. If one goes dry, got a couple of

1854
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:08,040
Speaker 1: shows to do without me this weekend. This week's TV

1855
01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:12,720
Speaker 1: are aver that I'm okay with it. You wanted me

1856
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:14,760
Speaker 1: to go over the cower in the corner. What I'm

1857
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:18,720
Speaker 1: gonna do with I can't go on without murder? I

1858
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:22,160
Speaker 1: probably fine. I actually there's a question as to who's

1859
01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:25,040
Speaker 1: gonna be Oh, don't go with me, you know, I mean,

1860
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 1: that's you know what's going on this week Wednesday the

1861
01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:33,559
Speaker 1: SPS Jim Kelly's gonna win the the Jim Valvano Award

1862
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 1: Perseverance award. Yeah, how cool is that gonna be? Debt.

1863
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 1: It's probably something you don't want to miss this week, right,

1864
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:42,320
Speaker 1: Wednesday night. I believe that's right, you don't want to

1865
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:45,439
Speaker 1: miss because you know what, Jim has a knack for being. Um,

1866
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna you know, he's to say, Jim's articulate. Okay,

1867
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:52,600
Speaker 1: you can say that, but he has he's got a

1868
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 1: sense of timing. What are you laughing at? Go ahead?

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01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:59,599
Speaker 1: I mean this totally sincerely. He's he knows, he knows

1870
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:01,320
Speaker 1: when to rise to the moment. That's what I'm trying

1871
01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:03,360
Speaker 1: to say. He did it as a player, and he's

1872
01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:05,400
Speaker 1: gonna do it this Sunday. He rises to the moment.

1873
01:31:05,439 --> 01:31:07,719
Speaker 1: And this is a moment really, I think this Wednesday

1874
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:10,759
Speaker 1: when he makes that speech at the SP's July eighteenth,

1875
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:14,640
Speaker 1: which is what this Wednesday, right, Yeah, you're right. And

1876
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:18,120
Speaker 1: it's interesting too. He spilled the beans as to saying

1877
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:20,160
Speaker 1: he was gonna get the thing they're supposed to be.

1878
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:21,800
Speaker 1: They were gonna have an announcement to say who it

1879
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:24,280
Speaker 1: was gonna be. Yeah, I don't know whether maybe they're

1880
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 1: gonna announce it that night, I don't know, but Jim

1881
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 1: spilled the Beans and said it at his golf tournament

1882
01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:32,280
Speaker 1: because somebody asked him the question about that, and and

1883
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:34,920
Speaker 1: Jim took it that the guy already knew, right, so

1884
01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:40,600
Speaker 1: he said it and it came out. But absolutely phenomenally

1885
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:44,880
Speaker 1: deserving guy for this award. And you know how here

1886
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, I mean, Jim's iconic. M He's gonna go

1887
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:49,800
Speaker 1: down in the histories maybe one of the maybe the

1888
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:54,680
Speaker 1: all time great athletic hero of the of this city. Um,

1889
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:57,240
Speaker 1: now there's you know who was it? You were? Brownie?

1890
01:31:57,960 --> 01:31:59,559
Speaker 1: Might have been you two talking to each other about

1891
01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:04,360
Speaker 1: how Jim. Jim's post football career has meant almost as

1892
01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:06,519
Speaker 1: much as his football career did to this time. When

1893
01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:09,120
Speaker 1: you think about what he did for charity, for his

1894
01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:13,200
Speaker 1: own charity, for hunters Hope and for others. The example

1895
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:17,599
Speaker 1: he's set in, uh you know is battle with cancer

1896
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:21,479
Speaker 1: now public and h and pretty out there. He might

1897
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:23,760
Speaker 1: he might be as notable for what he's done since

1898
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:26,160
Speaker 1: he stopped playing football as he did during his football career.

1899
01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:28,720
Speaker 1: Well yeah, and there's no get me wrong. There are

1900
01:32:28,760 --> 01:32:31,519
Speaker 1: a ton of guys doing wonderful things all over the country.

1901
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:34,120
Speaker 1: But I think the reason it resonates here is because

1902
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:38,120
Speaker 1: Jim who is There's no question, he's a national iconic

1903
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:43,200
Speaker 1: professional quarterback Hall of Fame quarterback who stayed in this

1904
01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:46,800
Speaker 1: city and raised his family here. He made this his home.

1905
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:50,320
Speaker 1: That means a lot here. And you know this, Murf Buffalo.

1906
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:55,599
Speaker 1: People want their athletes and their heroes to like Buffalo,

1907
01:32:55,840 --> 01:33:01,120
Speaker 1: and Jim has made his home here and he is

1908
01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:05,000
Speaker 1: transcended football, there's no question about it. His foundation, the

1909
01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:10,120
Speaker 1: life and legacy of his son Hunter, and now Jim's

1910
01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:15,480
Speaker 1: battle with cancer. Um, it's just it's an amazing odyssey

1911
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:19,120
Speaker 1: that's still not over, yep. And it's been compelling at

1912
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:21,560
Speaker 1: every step. You know, it's amazing about his odyssey, his

1913
01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:25,000
Speaker 1: his journey here in Buffalo, in western New York. The

1914
01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:27,160
Speaker 1: start of it too, when he didn't want to come here,

1915
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 1: right when he played in Houston in the USFL and

1916
01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:34,080
Speaker 1: did not want to play. Um, he told me before

1917
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:36,519
Speaker 1: he played here, I ran into Manis Square gardener at

1918
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:39,800
Speaker 1: a Big East tournament. Basically he said, blank, Buffalo, I'm

1919
01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:43,280
Speaker 1: not playing in Buffalo, you know. And uh, and look

1920
01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:45,439
Speaker 1: how it's turned around now. You know, he is part

1921
01:33:45,479 --> 01:33:50,360
Speaker 1: of the architecture here. He's He's defined parts of Buffalo

1922
01:33:50,479 --> 01:33:54,080
Speaker 1: right with his courage and his resilience from from all

1923
01:33:54,160 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 1: these uh illnesses and all the setbacks he's had. I

1924
01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:00,200
Speaker 1: find it amazing the way it started with him not

1925
01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:01,800
Speaker 1: wanting to come here, and now look, we'd well, he's

1926
01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:04,160
Speaker 1: an easy guy to love because and fans know it

1927
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:06,840
Speaker 1: because he's so genuine. He's open, he's honest, he's raw.

1928
01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:08,720
Speaker 1: You look at you talk to him about what he's

1929
01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:10,760
Speaker 1: going through now with the cancer, he'll tell you every

1930
01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:14,799
Speaker 1: sort of detail. And he was the same when he played.

1931
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:18,840
Speaker 1: He was not afraid to be humbled, he was not

1932
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:24,720
Speaker 1: afraid to be genuine. He shared his life and his

1933
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:29,320
Speaker 1: and his intimate moments of sorrow and pain with all

1934
01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:31,960
Speaker 1: of us. And you love a guy like that, you know,

1935
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:34,240
Speaker 1: you feel like you really know him. And I think

1936
01:34:34,280 --> 01:34:36,759
Speaker 1: we all feel like here in Buffalo, we know exactly

1937
01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:38,400
Speaker 1: who Jim is and we love him for it. And

1938
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:42,400
Speaker 1: he's never forgotten the city and his fans. Is certainly

1939
01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 1: me as a teammate and all the guys I played

1940
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:51,679
Speaker 1: with and with him on those teams, he's just he's

1941
01:34:51,720 --> 01:34:55,680
Speaker 1: just a huge blessing for me, for the fans, for

1942
01:34:55,760 --> 01:34:57,960
Speaker 1: the town, for the city, and he continues to be

1943
01:34:58,320 --> 01:35:00,720
Speaker 1: even in the midst of this bat with cancer. It's

1944
01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:03,080
Speaker 1: just a you know, it's just been a wonderful example

1945
01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:05,560
Speaker 1: for all of us. So another another brick in the

1946
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:07,800
Speaker 1: wall for Jim Kelly and his legendary in Buffalo coming

1947
01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:11,160
Speaker 1: up Wednesday night, July eighteenth, this Wednesday on Channel seven ABC.

1948
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:14,960
Speaker 1: He probably does, but in fact, I know he does.

1949
01:35:16,200 --> 01:35:18,479
Speaker 1: He you know, how many awards do you think Jim's

1950
01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:22,599
Speaker 1: gotten over the years, Right, they're right, I think he's

1951
01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:27,200
Speaker 1: got them all. I think he's got them all. Not

1952
01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:33,559
Speaker 1: only that, but yeah, any of Lombardies. He's um members

1953
01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:35,760
Speaker 1: old house, not the new house. He's in the old house.

1954
01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:37,599
Speaker 1: When we used to have the parties after games at

1955
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:41,879
Speaker 1: his house, he had literally a hundred jerseys all personally

1956
01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 1: signed to Jim Kelly from you know, Mike Singletary, Gastono,

1957
01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:49,479
Speaker 1: Mark Gastono. You know, you could down the list everybody,

1958
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:53,200
Speaker 1: all the Terry Bradshaw, Roger Staubach quarterbacks players. I mean,

1959
01:35:53,240 --> 01:35:56,080
Speaker 1: it's unbelievable the roster of jerseys he has. So those

1960
01:35:56,120 --> 01:35:58,120
Speaker 1: aren't in the new house, they're like they're all in

1961
01:35:58,280 --> 01:36:02,479
Speaker 1: storage with you know, all of his stuff. And Thurman

1962
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:05,080
Speaker 1: Thomas a great running Hall of Fame, Rammick, have you

1963
01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:07,479
Speaker 1: ever seen his stuff? I gotta know, what do you mean?

1964
01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:09,759
Speaker 1: He goes, He's got like a thing like a warehouse

1965
01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:13,479
Speaker 1: wherever he keeps it. Yeah, he goes, you gottas Thurman,

1966
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:16,880
Speaker 1: He's like, you gotta see this. I got what are you?

1967
01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:19,160
Speaker 1: He goes. It's impressive. I mean because most of it,

1968
01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:20,920
Speaker 1: you know, you strow it to your family, like this

1969
01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:24,080
Speaker 1: stuff's junk, you know, right, Like I got a nattic

1970
01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:27,760
Speaker 1: full of football cards too, not like Jim's. Yeah, so

1971
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:31,400
Speaker 1: he's got, you know, he just and that's that's typical

1972
01:36:31,439 --> 01:36:34,400
Speaker 1: of him. He never forgets anybody, yep. I mean if

1973
01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:37,720
Speaker 1: you're his friend now in two years and you come

1974
01:36:37,760 --> 01:36:40,080
Speaker 1: back and say hi to him and remember you're still

1975
01:36:40,120 --> 01:36:43,639
Speaker 1: his friend, and that's what a gift, What a gift.

1976
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:47,240
Speaker 1: He will be honored Wednesday night on ABC the SP's

1977
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:49,840
Speaker 1: all those sports awards. Jim Kelly to get the Jimmy

1978
01:36:49,880 --> 01:36:52,400
Speaker 1: b Award for Perseverance and yes, you gotta watch that, right,

1979
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:54,360
Speaker 1: if you're a Bills fan, you gotta watch that of course, yeah,

1980
01:36:54,439 --> 01:36:56,599
Speaker 1: or dvr a at least, you know too, all right

1981
01:36:56,640 --> 01:36:58,280
Speaker 1: to break care. When we come back, we're gonna talk

1982
01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:03,080
Speaker 1: about other quarterbacks, including Philip Rivers and others. Andy Benoid's

1983
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:06,360
Speaker 1: going to join us from MMQB and Sports Illustrated dot Com,

1984
01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:09,040
Speaker 1: So come on back for that. One Bill's Live presented

1985
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:11,360
Speaker 1: by kalidah Health where live at One Bill's Drive on

1986
01:37:11,479 --> 01:37:24,960
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio Hills Radio Network. Stories update comes from

1987
01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:27,840
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. Very quiet today the National Football League, however,

1988
01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:31,240
Speaker 1: two hours away from a pretty significant deadline four o'clock

1989
01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:34,599
Speaker 1: the deadline today for teams to make a long term

1990
01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:37,200
Speaker 1: deal with some of their unrestricted free agents who have

1991
01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:40,439
Speaker 1: been tagged under the franchise tag. Steelers coach Mike Tomlin

1992
01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:43,240
Speaker 1: is optimistic. Appearing over the weekend, he said that he'd

1993
01:37:43,240 --> 01:37:46,200
Speaker 1: liked the Steelers to sign Levy On Bell, his talented

1994
01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:48,360
Speaker 1: running back, to a long term deal before the deadline

1995
01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:50,960
Speaker 1: four o'clock today, but it's going to be challenging. Adam

1996
01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:54,680
Speaker 1: Schefter of ESPN says both sides have been talking and

1997
01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:56,600
Speaker 1: will continue to try, but they are not close to

1998
01:37:56,680 --> 01:37:59,000
Speaker 1: a deal at this time. Last year, Bell signed his

1999
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:03,000
Speaker 1: French tag on September fourth, twelve point twelve million tag

2000
01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:05,400
Speaker 1: this year is worth more than that, and it looks

2001
01:38:05,400 --> 01:38:07,240
Speaker 1: like that might be the direction it's headed in the

2002
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:09,880
Speaker 1: tag this year worth fourteen and a half million dollars

2003
01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:12,760
Speaker 1: for Levion Bell. No long term deal expected between the

2004
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:16,320
Speaker 1: Rams and franchise safety LaMarcus Joiner by the deadline today,

2005
01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:19,280
Speaker 1: although the two sides continue to talk. The Lions franchise

2006
01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:21,960
Speaker 1: tag defensive En Ziggi Anza he will not reach a

2007
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:24,680
Speaker 1: deal by four o'clock today, according to league sources, and

2008
01:38:24,840 --> 01:38:27,479
Speaker 1: his contract expires at the end of the season. Aaron

2009
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:29,519
Speaker 1: Rodgers says a couple of years left on his deal,

2010
01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:32,960
Speaker 1: and Rogers told NBC Sports over the weekend that he

2011
01:38:33,080 --> 01:38:36,040
Speaker 1: plans on playing five more seasons beyond twenty eighteen. He

2012
01:38:36,080 --> 01:38:38,680
Speaker 1: wants to play until he is forty years old. If

2013
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:41,320
Speaker 1: he hits that Goalie Willney new contract, Aaron Rodgers says

2014
01:38:41,360 --> 01:38:44,360
Speaker 1: he'd love to play until he turns forty. France won

2015
01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:46,200
Speaker 1: the World Cup yesterday with a four to two win

2016
01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:49,400
Speaker 1: over Croatia. As France wins, they are celebrating in Paris

2017
01:38:49,479 --> 01:38:52,920
Speaker 1: and throughout France today and baseball the Home Run Derby

2018
01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:55,960
Speaker 1: is tonight. The average age of the eight participants twenty

2019
01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:59,280
Speaker 1: six point four years of age. The youngest field ever. Ever,

2020
01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:01,880
Speaker 1: none of the players were born when the first home

2021
01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:03,600
Speaker 1: run derby was held in the All Star Game in

2022
01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:07,680
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty five. Bidsen's played tonight and home against the

2023
01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:10,960
Speaker 1: Norfolk Tides. Former NHL goaltender Ray Emery drowned over the

2024
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:14,040
Speaker 1: weekend while swimming in his hometown of Hamilton, Ontario. He

2025
01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:16,680
Speaker 1: was thirty five years old. Hamilton police say he was

2026
01:39:16,760 --> 01:39:21,439
Speaker 1: reported missing early Sunday morning, and his body was recovered

2027
01:39:21,560 --> 01:39:24,639
Speaker 1: later in the day. Tragic story. That is the update

2028
01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:27,240
Speaker 1: from One Bill Drive, John Murphy and Steve Tasker in

2029
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:29,879
Speaker 1: our one Buffalo studio here until three o'clock this afternoon

2030
01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:32,400
Speaker 1: as we worked our way towards the start of Bill's camp.

2031
01:39:32,479 --> 01:39:34,760
Speaker 1: It starts a week from Thursday. Joining us on the

2032
01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:37,760
Speaker 1: Subway Fresh Day coutline. A frequent Quest guest, one of

2033
01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:40,599
Speaker 1: our best guests. He is an NFL analyst for Sports

2034
01:39:40,640 --> 01:39:43,760
Speaker 1: Illustrating and the MMQB. Happy to have Andy Benoit on

2035
01:39:43,840 --> 01:39:46,679
Speaker 1: the line with us from his home out west in Idaho. Right, Andy,

2036
01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:49,639
Speaker 1: that is correct. How are you guys doing. We're doing great.

2037
01:39:49,640 --> 01:39:51,120
Speaker 1: We missed year. We haven't talking in a while. You

2038
01:39:51,200 --> 01:39:53,760
Speaker 1: come into camp this year you've you've been to Pittsburgh before.

2039
01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:56,920
Speaker 1: You're gonna make that trip? I think I will. I'm

2040
01:39:57,000 --> 01:39:59,960
Speaker 1: still I actually just started today putting those pieces in play.

2041
01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:01,559
Speaker 1: I have to go to Canton this year. I've never

2042
01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:04,640
Speaker 1: been to Canton, but I'm going with Jerry Kramer as

2043
01:40:04,640 --> 01:40:07,160
Speaker 1: a guest for for his Hall of Fame event. So

2044
01:40:07,439 --> 01:40:09,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to hit all the camps near Canton.

2045
01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:11,720
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a fun summer. Jackie, how did you

2046
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:14,680
Speaker 1: get to be a guest for Jerry Kramer's group? Uh?

2047
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:16,800
Speaker 1: You know, he lives here near me and boys, so

2048
01:40:16,840 --> 01:40:20,040
Speaker 1: I've known him since I was a young kid, and

2049
01:40:20,160 --> 01:40:22,760
Speaker 1: I think he just I think he appreciated that I was.

2050
01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:25,439
Speaker 1: I was honored and touched by that. And uh, I

2051
01:40:25,479 --> 01:40:29,080
Speaker 1: don't know what to expect, but I can't wait for

2052
01:40:29,200 --> 01:40:31,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I'll be at that gold Gold

2053
01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:35,080
Speaker 1: Jacket dinner too. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's it's gonna be

2054
01:40:35,080 --> 01:40:37,479
Speaker 1: a thrill. I'm real appreciative. I gotta tell you, Andy,

2055
01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:40,880
Speaker 1: I met Jerry. I read Instant Replay. That was his book,

2056
01:40:40,920 --> 01:40:43,160
Speaker 1: write his first book, yep, And I read that when

2057
01:40:43,200 --> 01:40:45,799
Speaker 1: I had to be like ten years old. Always admired

2058
01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:48,400
Speaker 1: the guy met him twenty five, thirty years ago he

2059
01:40:48,439 --> 01:40:50,840
Speaker 1: was doing Network TV. Just talked to him once and

2060
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:54,439
Speaker 1: was inspired by him. He is a unique and kind

2061
01:40:54,479 --> 01:40:56,840
Speaker 1: of a commanding presence, isn't he. I love Jerry Kramer.

2062
01:40:56,880 --> 01:40:59,240
Speaker 1: I'm so happy he's going in the Hall of Fame. Yeah,

2063
01:40:59,240 --> 01:41:01,560
Speaker 1: I am too. He's got a deep voice and he

2064
01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:04,639
Speaker 1: is a natural storyteller, and you put those two things

2065
01:41:04,680 --> 01:41:06,840
Speaker 1: together and you can see why he's had a very

2066
01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:10,519
Speaker 1: successful speaking career. Yeah, and yeah, it's it's interesting you

2067
01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:13,720
Speaker 1: talk about guys who were storytellers. We we just had

2068
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:17,160
Speaker 1: on Warren Sharpe, who is the big analytics guy, And

2069
01:41:17,240 --> 01:41:20,280
Speaker 1: it's kind of the difference between statistics and storytelling. You

2070
01:41:20,360 --> 01:41:22,200
Speaker 1: can read both, but one of them is a lot

2071
01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:26,439
Speaker 1: more fun. Andy, what are you? What is your take?

2072
01:41:26,479 --> 01:41:28,840
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's the new hot thing, and you've

2073
01:41:28,880 --> 01:41:33,519
Speaker 1: talked a little bit about it, analytics and just havn't

2074
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:36,800
Speaker 1: gone gut feeling and kind of coaches decisions. What's your

2075
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:39,439
Speaker 1: take on that? About the direction the league's going and

2076
01:41:39,479 --> 01:41:43,360
Speaker 1: with so much so much data being generated instead of

2077
01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:47,000
Speaker 1: just playing wins and losses. Yeah, I'm not a big

2078
01:41:47,120 --> 01:41:49,160
Speaker 1: analytics guy. I think you have to understand what we

2079
01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:52,280
Speaker 1: mean by analytics, because it started with baseball and it's

2080
01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:55,400
Speaker 1: worked very well for baseball. But that is a that's

2081
01:41:55,560 --> 01:41:59,439
Speaker 1: a sport of isolation, a picture versus batter, it's everything.

2082
01:41:59,640 --> 01:42:03,240
Speaker 1: Circustances tend to be the same from swing to swing

2083
01:42:03,360 --> 01:42:06,519
Speaker 1: or pitch to pitch. In football, from snap to snap,

2084
01:42:06,640 --> 01:42:09,360
Speaker 1: the circumstances are not remotely the same. For one, it's

2085
01:42:09,360 --> 01:42:11,919
Speaker 1: not just one on one. It's twenty two moving pieces

2086
01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:15,080
Speaker 1: and a confined area of space, and how one piece

2087
01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:18,400
Speaker 1: moves impacts what the next piece does. And that's true

2088
01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:22,559
Speaker 1: completely across the board. So already we're talking about too

2089
01:42:22,640 --> 01:42:27,719
Speaker 1: many variables to quantify into grading players analytically. Now, coaches

2090
01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:30,439
Speaker 1: can grade because they know what the play call was

2091
01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:32,280
Speaker 1: and they know that the guy do his job or not.

2092
01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:35,599
Speaker 1: But if you don't know those play calls, it's very difficult.

2093
01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:38,120
Speaker 1: And then it's also hard to I mean, like, how

2094
01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:40,800
Speaker 1: do you let's say the quarterback drops back and there's

2095
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:43,680
Speaker 1: a little bit of pressure and he overreacts to it

2096
01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:46,920
Speaker 1: and leaves the pocket and throws an incompletion. Are we

2097
01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:50,800
Speaker 1: grading the quarterback down for overreacting to the pressure, or

2098
01:42:50,840 --> 01:42:52,880
Speaker 1: are we grading the left tackle down for giving up

2099
01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:55,639
Speaker 1: the pressure or is it both? If the quarterback had

2100
01:42:55,720 --> 01:42:58,320
Speaker 1: had stepped up correctly in the pocket, do we grade

2101
01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:00,720
Speaker 1: him differently? There's all kind. I mean, we have to

2102
01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:03,280
Speaker 1: know what you even want in a player before you

2103
01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:07,639
Speaker 1: can grade them, So it's extremely subjective and that's why

2104
01:43:07,720 --> 01:43:09,680
Speaker 1: I take it with a grain of salt. Now what

2105
01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:13,759
Speaker 1: the teams do though, and why analytics is spreading. Teams

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Speaker 1: want to get rid of the non gradable information, or

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01:43:17,360 --> 01:43:20,080
Speaker 1: at least organizers so they can go through it quicker.

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Speaker 1: So they say, give me all the shotgun formations this week,

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01:43:23,479 --> 01:43:25,519
Speaker 1: and the analytics can get them to pull it up

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01:43:25,560 --> 01:43:27,600
Speaker 1: in the blink of an eye. Give me all the

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01:43:27,680 --> 01:43:30,640
Speaker 1: incompletions between the ten and fifteen yard lines over the

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Speaker 1: last three years, and the analytics can pull that up.

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Speaker 1: And then from there they watch the film and study it.

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Speaker 1: So they look for trends within trends. But they're not

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Speaker 1: sitting there just saying, well, what are the numbers? They

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01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:44,200
Speaker 1: watch the stats on all these formations and what's the

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Speaker 1: great on That's not how the teams are doing it.

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Speaker 1: They're still watching. If anything, they're watching more film because

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Speaker 1: there's more ways to watch film because of analytics, speaking

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Speaker 1: of film, I know that's what you do for a living,

2121
01:43:54,680 --> 01:43:58,120
Speaker 1: Andy and write about it for MMQB and for Sports Illustrated.

2122
01:43:58,479 --> 01:44:00,360
Speaker 1: Levy on Vala is in the news today with the

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01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:02,720
Speaker 1: four o'clock decision coming down on whether he gets a

2124
01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:05,360
Speaker 1: long term deal with Pittsburgh. When Steve and I were

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01:44:05,400 --> 01:44:07,680
Speaker 1: talking about the value of running back to earlier on

2126
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Speaker 1: on our show, you know, the franchise tag is worth

2127
01:44:10,600 --> 01:44:13,080
Speaker 1: what fourteen and a half million dollars this year for

2128
01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:15,160
Speaker 1: a Levion Bell if he has to play on that

2129
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:17,519
Speaker 1: Is any running back worth that much? That much of

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01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:20,600
Speaker 1: a cap hit fourteen and a half million. I think he.

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01:44:20,840 --> 01:44:24,080
Speaker 1: I think he is because of a few things. For one,

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01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:26,799
Speaker 1: he's the best rust of member. He's the best running

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01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:28,360
Speaker 1: back in the league. I know he did not have

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01:44:28,479 --> 01:44:31,559
Speaker 1: any explosive runs. He didn't have anything longer than twenty

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01:44:31,640 --> 01:44:35,760
Speaker 1: seven yards last year. But he is the backbone of

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01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:38,320
Speaker 1: their approach to the game. All those double team blocks

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01:44:38,400 --> 01:44:40,360
Speaker 1: they do and all the poll blocks they do with

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01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:44,480
Speaker 1: David DeCastro and Pouncy that's to amplify and take advantage

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01:44:44,479 --> 01:44:47,880
Speaker 1: of Bell's patients. So if you remove Levion Bell from

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01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:50,040
Speaker 1: that equation, you have to in a lot of ways.

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01:44:50,080 --> 01:44:53,400
Speaker 1: You're rewriting a lot of parts of your playbook, and

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01:44:53,479 --> 01:44:55,599
Speaker 1: that's going to change the way that your layman play,

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01:44:55,640 --> 01:44:58,559
Speaker 1: and now everybody becomes a little less valuable. The other

2144
01:44:58,640 --> 01:45:00,840
Speaker 1: thing is what Bell gives you as the receiver and

2145
01:45:00,920 --> 01:45:04,719
Speaker 1: how he flexes out wide and can run routes from anywhere.

2146
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:07,080
Speaker 1: When you've got a guy who's the best runner in

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01:45:07,160 --> 01:45:10,639
Speaker 1: the league and is capable of being a number two

2148
01:45:10,760 --> 01:45:14,240
Speaker 1: receiver by skill set wise, how do you match up

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01:45:14,280 --> 01:45:16,360
Speaker 1: against him? Are you putting an extra safety on the

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01:45:16,479 --> 01:45:19,240
Speaker 1: field and hoping that that safety can play run defense?

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01:45:19,680 --> 01:45:22,439
Speaker 1: Are you keeping your base linebackers in there and hoping

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01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:25,040
Speaker 1: that someone can cover or at least survive in zone?

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01:45:25,360 --> 01:45:28,439
Speaker 1: Could presents a lot of conundrums for a defense. And remember,

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01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:30,840
Speaker 1: not only is that a problem for the defense, but

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01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:34,080
Speaker 1: the offense is aware that the defense has this problem,

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01:45:34,479 --> 01:45:38,040
Speaker 1: and the offense can scheme everything around making that problem

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01:45:38,160 --> 01:45:41,639
Speaker 1: worse for the defense. Are there any any other major

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01:45:42,240 --> 01:45:46,120
Speaker 1: you know guys talking about franchise tag players. There's four guys.

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Speaker 1: There's LaMarcus Joiner, Ezekielanza, and DeMarcus Lawrence. Are any of

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Speaker 1: those other four guys? Other than Levion. Are they all

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01:45:55,960 --> 01:46:01,160
Speaker 1: are any of them deal breakers? Is Ziggyons is looking

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01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:04,160
Speaker 1: at a seventeen point one million dollar cap hit for

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01:46:04,960 --> 01:46:07,600
Speaker 1: the Lions? Does that not make him a little bit

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01:46:07,680 --> 01:46:11,320
Speaker 1: more imperative? And so is DeMarco DeMarcus Lawrence. It's the

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Speaker 1: same number. I mean, those guys as pass rushers, I

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01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:18,040
Speaker 1: know they're valuable, but seventeen million bucks is and that

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01:46:18,200 --> 01:46:21,360
Speaker 1: may be a little bit ahead of the curve. Well,

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Speaker 1: I could certainly see the argument for that. I think

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Speaker 1: from Detroit and Dallas standpoint, they say, hey, we're basically

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Speaker 1: traditional four three defenses, so we rely on our front

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01:46:32,680 --> 01:46:35,200
Speaker 1: four to get pressure, and if we don't have that

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01:46:35,320 --> 01:46:37,840
Speaker 1: cornerstone front four player, we're not going to be a

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01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:40,599
Speaker 1: very good four to three straight zone type of defense.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the thinking with it. These guys are hard,

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Speaker 1: you know, Lawrence. I mean, if you sign them a

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01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:47,840
Speaker 1: long term, they're going to cost just as much as

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Speaker 1: this franchise tag, only there's more risks because there's more

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Speaker 1: years involved. Lawrence has gotten better every season of his career.

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Speaker 1: He came along a little slowly. I would understand why

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01:46:58,080 --> 01:47:00,759
Speaker 1: Dallas would want to see it one more year. ASA

2181
01:47:00,960 --> 01:47:04,000
Speaker 1: is the most fascinating franchise tag I've seen in a while, because,

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Speaker 1: for one, there's some dispute about how old he is.

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01:47:06,760 --> 01:47:09,280
Speaker 1: Is he in his late twenties or early thirties. That's

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01:47:09,320 --> 01:47:12,160
Speaker 1: at least a question that's up in the air. It's

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01:47:12,160 --> 01:47:15,360
Speaker 1: had some injury issues. But then the hard part is

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Speaker 1: when he had twelve sacks last year, he was not

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01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:20,559
Speaker 1: very good on film. He happened to have twelve sacks,

2188
01:47:20,640 --> 01:47:23,080
Speaker 1: but he had a down season the year before he

2189
01:47:23,160 --> 01:47:26,000
Speaker 1: had only two sacks, and he was phenomenal on film.

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01:47:26,360 --> 01:47:29,400
Speaker 1: So his stats do not at all correlate with his

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01:47:29,680 --> 01:47:33,599
Speaker 1: on paper performance, and the agent's gonna come in and say, well,

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01:47:33,640 --> 01:47:35,840
Speaker 1: here's the on paper performance, and the team looks at

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01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:38,639
Speaker 1: it from the on film performance, And when those two

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01:47:38,720 --> 01:47:41,320
Speaker 1: things don't match up, it's hard to figure out what

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01:47:41,439 --> 01:47:43,320
Speaker 1: to pay a guy, especially then when you don't know

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Speaker 1: how old he is. Perhaps so I understand why answers

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Speaker 1: franchise tag. That's kind of what the franchise tag is for.

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Speaker 1: You kick the can down the road and see if

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Speaker 1: maybe the decision presents itself next year. Hopefully for these teams,

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01:47:55,800 --> 01:47:58,240
Speaker 1: the decision does, and Dallas realizes, hey, we need to

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Speaker 1: lock up Lawrence now because we can't let them get away,

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01:48:00,720 --> 01:48:03,880
Speaker 1: and the Lions realize that. But yeah, you know, we'll

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01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:06,400
Speaker 1: see how it goes. I'm not I mean, if I'm guessing,

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01:48:06,439 --> 01:48:08,640
Speaker 1: I think Dallas has Lawrence next year, and I think

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01:48:08,680 --> 01:48:11,320
Speaker 1: Onso is a free agent next year. On the line

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Speaker 1: with Andy Benoit, NFL analysts for Sports Illustrated in the

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01:48:14,960 --> 01:48:17,439
Speaker 1: MMQBS on the Subway Fresh Tang Hotline with us, and

2208
01:48:17,520 --> 01:48:19,799
Speaker 1: they want to talk about a couple of recent posts

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Speaker 1: you've had at MMQB on one of which really hit

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Speaker 1: home with me. You look, I like college football. I

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01:48:26,200 --> 01:48:29,560
Speaker 1: like the pageantry of college football. I like the you know,

2212
01:48:29,640 --> 01:48:33,720
Speaker 1: the fan bases are loyal, tremendously loyal. But you you

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01:48:33,920 --> 01:48:37,160
Speaker 1: wrote about that the differences between NFL and college football

2214
01:48:37,439 --> 01:48:39,599
Speaker 1: not the same game, and you make a compelling argument

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01:48:39,680 --> 01:48:42,559
Speaker 1: that the NFL really is a better game. And one

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01:48:42,640 --> 01:48:44,120
Speaker 1: of the things that stood out to me and I

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01:48:44,160 --> 01:48:47,400
Speaker 1: think you're right it's sort of undervalued is field dimensions

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01:48:47,439 --> 01:48:49,479
Speaker 1: where the hash marks are. It's a it's a lot

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01:48:49,600 --> 01:48:52,840
Speaker 1: different game with the NFL hash marks being what twelve

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01:48:52,920 --> 01:48:55,960
Speaker 1: feet closer together than they are, no, twenty two feet

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01:48:56,200 --> 01:48:59,040
Speaker 1: closer together than they in college football. It's a different game,

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01:48:59,120 --> 01:49:01,479
Speaker 1: isn't it. It's a totally different game for that, and

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01:49:01,560 --> 01:49:04,200
Speaker 1: that's the main reason. In college those hash marks are

2224
01:49:04,320 --> 01:49:06,920
Speaker 1: forty feet apart from each other, so when you spot

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01:49:07,080 --> 01:49:10,200
Speaker 1: the ball on one hashmark, it's very heavily tilted to

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01:49:10,280 --> 01:49:12,479
Speaker 1: one side of the field. So now you have a

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01:49:12,680 --> 01:49:15,040
Speaker 1: short side of the field and a very wide side

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01:49:15,040 --> 01:49:18,360
Speaker 1: of the field, and that changes the way offensive scheme

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01:49:18,439 --> 01:49:21,080
Speaker 1: and formation. And what it really does is change the

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01:49:21,160 --> 01:49:24,639
Speaker 1: way the defense covers, because remember those sidelines are essentially

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01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:29,120
Speaker 1: extra defenders, so it's a whole geometrically different game. And

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01:49:29,200 --> 01:49:32,519
Speaker 1: that's part of the reason spread offensive quarterbacks don't always

2233
01:49:32,560 --> 01:49:35,439
Speaker 1: transfer well to the NFL, and everybody wonders why. It's

2234
01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:38,639
Speaker 1: part of the reason pocket passing is king in the NFL,

2235
01:49:38,720 --> 01:49:41,400
Speaker 1: because if you think about their hash marks, where they're

2236
01:49:41,439 --> 01:49:44,519
Speaker 1: eighteen feet apart, they're tight. The ball is always aligned

2237
01:49:44,560 --> 01:49:46,840
Speaker 1: almost near the middle of the field, so it's a

2238
01:49:47,000 --> 01:49:49,960
Speaker 1: balanced field, and everything happens a little bit quicker because

2239
01:49:49,960 --> 01:49:52,479
Speaker 1: there's not all this extra space to take advantage of,

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Speaker 1: and long story short, for a bunch of little reasons,

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01:49:55,880 --> 01:49:58,720
Speaker 1: it makes pocket passing that much more important, and that's

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01:49:58,760 --> 01:50:02,120
Speaker 1: the big difference between in the two. There are kinds.

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01:50:02,360 --> 01:50:04,240
Speaker 1: There's no right or wrong here. I mean the college

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01:50:04,280 --> 01:50:08,320
Speaker 1: people who like college. They have been very passionate in

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01:50:08,360 --> 01:50:11,280
Speaker 1: their response to me, and I respect that and appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: What drives me nuts is when I watch college film,

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01:50:14,600 --> 01:50:17,920
Speaker 1: I can't always decipher the coverage because that wide side

2248
01:50:17,960 --> 01:50:21,240
Speaker 1: of the field makes everything a little bit loose and blurry.

2249
01:50:21,280 --> 01:50:23,080
Speaker 1: And some people might say that makes it more fun.

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01:50:23,240 --> 01:50:25,759
Speaker 1: It's just a preference stamp. I'd love to hear Steve's opinion,

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01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:27,960
Speaker 1: because he had to actually learn this stuff and try

2252
01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:30,200
Speaker 1: to go play against it and exploit it when he

2253
01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:33,639
Speaker 1: was in there. But I like a nice, crisp, easily

2254
01:50:33,760 --> 01:50:37,800
Speaker 1: defined coverage rather than Wow, they in covered four, they

2255
01:50:37,840 --> 01:50:40,000
Speaker 1: incover three, what do they do? I just don't like

2256
01:50:40,080 --> 01:50:43,280
Speaker 1: the looseness of college coverages. Yeah, it does. It opens

2257
01:50:43,360 --> 01:50:47,120
Speaker 1: things up and puts a huge wrench into the workst

2258
01:50:47,200 --> 01:50:49,400
Speaker 1: It's not as cut and dried in college as it

2259
01:50:49,520 --> 01:50:51,240
Speaker 1: is in the NFL. You've got to you've got to

2260
01:50:51,280 --> 01:50:54,599
Speaker 1: defend both sides of the field, and I think in college,

2261
01:50:55,400 --> 01:50:58,960
Speaker 1: you know, it skews the quality of athlete you have

2262
01:50:59,120 --> 01:51:00,679
Speaker 1: to have when you put them out to the wide

2263
01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:02,639
Speaker 1: side of the field as opposed to the other side,

2264
01:51:02,720 --> 01:51:06,360
Speaker 1: and your personnel is different, the way you align your

2265
01:51:06,439 --> 01:51:10,080
Speaker 1: defense is different, Your considerations defensively your different, and offensively

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01:51:10,120 --> 01:51:13,880
Speaker 1: as well. So it's a completely different game strictly because

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01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:16,360
Speaker 1: of where they spot the ball before the play and

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01:51:16,439 --> 01:51:19,600
Speaker 1: it's relationship to the sideline. It's it's amazing when you

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01:51:19,640 --> 01:51:22,479
Speaker 1: start thinking about the ripple effect of that, how it

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01:51:22,560 --> 01:51:28,800
Speaker 1: has changed the NFL away from the college game. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you something. Murph and I've been

2272
01:51:31,320 --> 01:51:33,360
Speaker 1: talking about this. We've we've got a list of topics

2273
01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:34,760
Speaker 1: we wanted to touch base with. The other one I

2274
01:51:34,840 --> 01:51:37,479
Speaker 1: want to get to is we've been going around and

2275
01:51:37,600 --> 01:51:40,920
Speaker 1: round about John Gruden and the Oakland Raiders, and Murph

2276
01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:43,280
Speaker 1: has high hopes for the for the Raiders. He thinks

2277
01:51:43,320 --> 01:51:45,680
Speaker 1: they could be dangerous. He thinks they're gonna better than

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01:51:45,680 --> 01:51:47,360
Speaker 1: I do. I guess basically, I don't want to overstate

2279
01:51:47,439 --> 01:51:50,840
Speaker 1: his point for me. As much as we've spoken about

2280
01:51:50,840 --> 01:51:54,600
Speaker 1: analytics and the league and how it evolves quickly and

2281
01:51:54,760 --> 01:51:58,040
Speaker 1: particularly a little bit by every year and then ten years,

2282
01:51:58,120 --> 01:51:59,840
Speaker 1: as you know, as John Gruden's been out of the

2283
01:51:59,880 --> 01:52:03,040
Speaker 1: leg it has evolved a great deal. Is it gonna

2284
01:52:03,040 --> 01:52:05,639
Speaker 1: be possible for him to come out of the booth,

2285
01:52:06,200 --> 01:52:10,320
Speaker 1: assimilate a staff and get back into the business of

2286
01:52:10,400 --> 01:52:12,639
Speaker 1: calling plays for an offense and being a head coach

2287
01:52:12,680 --> 01:52:16,520
Speaker 1: of a team and have that go smoothly. I'm fascinated

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01:52:16,600 --> 01:52:18,840
Speaker 1: to see the I have no idea. I'm fascinated to

2289
01:52:18,880 --> 01:52:20,559
Speaker 1: see the answer to the question. I think he's put

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01:52:20,640 --> 01:52:24,240
Speaker 1: together a very nice defensive staff and those guys are

2291
01:52:24,840 --> 01:52:27,000
Speaker 1: My guess is it's similar to how it's set up

2292
01:52:27,040 --> 01:52:30,040
Speaker 1: with McVeigh and with the Rams, and that that defensive

2293
01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:32,599
Speaker 1: staff and a lot of ways is its own entity,

2294
01:52:32,720 --> 01:52:35,559
Speaker 1: and Gruden runs the offensive staff. It's still Gruden's team,

2295
01:52:35,600 --> 01:52:38,280
Speaker 1: of course. But what's so fascinating to me is when

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01:52:38,360 --> 01:52:41,800
Speaker 1: Gruden left the NFL, double a gap concepts if you

2297
01:52:41,880 --> 01:52:44,599
Speaker 1: guys see a lot in Buffalo with Sean McDermott, those

2298
01:52:44,680 --> 01:52:48,080
Speaker 1: were just starting to become mainstream. And what those did

2299
01:52:48,240 --> 01:52:52,040
Speaker 1: was force more shotgun formations because teams couldn't stand to

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01:52:52,120 --> 01:52:55,240
Speaker 1: have two defenders up over their center and their quarterback

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01:52:55,400 --> 01:52:58,920
Speaker 1: under center, so shotgun became more popular. The league kind

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01:52:58,960 --> 01:53:00,880
Speaker 1: of adjust itself to that, and now we've got a

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01:53:00,920 --> 01:53:04,280
Speaker 1: shotgun NFL, and it's shotgun, college, shotgun, high school. It's

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01:53:04,320 --> 01:53:08,120
Speaker 1: happening everywhere. Well, Gruden doesn't like the shotgun. He hated

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01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:10,160
Speaker 1: the double A gaps. I mean the first time he

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01:53:10,240 --> 01:53:12,960
Speaker 1: saw it, he was screaming out assistant coaches, what is this?

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01:53:13,080 --> 01:53:14,960
Speaker 1: What are we doing? And he finally, reluctantly in the

2308
01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:16,400
Speaker 1: middle of the game, said, all right, fine, I guess

2309
01:53:16,400 --> 01:53:19,000
Speaker 1: who goes shotgun? And they hadn't practice shotgun very much

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01:53:19,000 --> 01:53:22,000
Speaker 1: because he believes in under center snaps. He thinks that

2311
01:53:22,160 --> 01:53:24,920
Speaker 1: sinks up with the timing of his West Coast offense better.

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01:53:25,360 --> 01:53:27,559
Speaker 1: So what does Gruden do now that he's ten years out?

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01:53:27,600 --> 01:53:30,880
Speaker 1: It's his shotgun NFL. He's an under center head coach.

2314
01:53:31,280 --> 01:53:33,599
Speaker 1: His two B CAR. I bet his time back car

2315
01:53:33,640 --> 01:53:36,120
Speaker 1: has taken ninety five percent of his snaps and shotgun

2316
01:53:36,200 --> 01:53:39,720
Speaker 1: over the course of his life. Who changes for who? There?

2317
01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:43,200
Speaker 1: I'm really interested to see that. That's great analysis. And

2318
01:53:43,680 --> 01:53:47,639
Speaker 1: part of that analysis came from what you called California Week, right, Andy.

2319
01:53:47,720 --> 01:53:50,439
Speaker 1: You spent a week late June out in California dealing

2320
01:53:50,479 --> 01:53:52,599
Speaker 1: with some of the NFL teams out there. You dealt

2321
01:53:52,640 --> 01:53:55,479
Speaker 1: with the Chargers and in particular Philip Rivers, who Steve

2322
01:53:55,520 --> 01:53:58,000
Speaker 1: and I find kind of fascinating. You tell us, I

2323
01:53:58,120 --> 01:53:59,960
Speaker 1: love the quote you had from Philip Rivers. He said

2324
01:54:00,160 --> 01:54:03,280
Speaker 1: something the effect that it's the game within the game

2325
01:54:03,320 --> 01:54:05,439
Speaker 1: that's awesome. I mean, this is a guy going into

2326
01:54:05,479 --> 01:54:09,240
Speaker 1: his fifteenth year who's lost none of his enthusiasm for,

2327
01:54:09,560 --> 01:54:13,480
Speaker 1: you know, strategizing. You got to appreciate that about Philip Rivers, absolutely,

2328
01:54:13,520 --> 01:54:15,840
Speaker 1: and he is revered within the NFL and within that

2329
01:54:16,000 --> 01:54:18,920
Speaker 1: Chargers organization for his football mind and the way he

2330
01:54:19,040 --> 01:54:22,280
Speaker 1: plays the position. There are a number of people in

2331
01:54:22,400 --> 01:54:26,040
Speaker 1: football pro football for just talking about how you're supposed

2332
01:54:26,080 --> 01:54:28,240
Speaker 1: to be a quarterback and play quarterback. A lot of

2333
01:54:28,280 --> 01:54:31,040
Speaker 1: them feel that Rivers is in the Ben Roethlisberger, Drew

2334
01:54:31,120 --> 01:54:35,040
Speaker 1: Brees first tier class and ahead of Eli Manning kind

2335
01:54:35,120 --> 01:54:36,720
Speaker 1: of so. And he's not going to go down in

2336
01:54:36,840 --> 01:54:39,080
Speaker 1: history that way unless he wins the super Bowl, in

2337
01:54:39,200 --> 01:54:40,680
Speaker 1: which they might do this year. You're a very good

2338
01:54:40,720 --> 01:54:43,400
Speaker 1: team this year. But I guess the point I'm getting that,

2339
01:54:43,480 --> 01:54:48,120
Speaker 1: guys is Rivers within the NFL is lauded and highly revered.

2340
01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:51,440
Speaker 1: He is much higher rated inside the NFL than he

2341
01:54:51,560 --> 01:54:54,280
Speaker 1: is by people on the outside. Yeah, I agree with that.

2342
01:54:54,640 --> 01:54:57,840
Speaker 1: You talk to people around and I've spoken to guys

2343
01:54:57,880 --> 01:55:01,920
Speaker 1: who have coached him and been around him and the Chargers,

2344
01:55:01,960 --> 01:55:04,200
Speaker 1: and they can't say enough good things about him. He

2345
01:55:04,960 --> 01:55:08,040
Speaker 1: sees a huge picture. He sees the big picture. He

2346
01:55:08,200 --> 01:55:12,960
Speaker 1: runs the entire offense. He knows protections better than anybody

2347
01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:15,240
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and I think when you and to

2348
01:55:15,400 --> 01:55:17,800
Speaker 1: go down a conversation with him about what's going on,

2349
01:55:17,880 --> 01:55:20,880
Speaker 1: and he did a nice job of it, It's just

2350
01:55:21,920 --> 01:55:26,200
Speaker 1: it's just a lot of fun because it happens once

2351
01:55:26,240 --> 01:55:29,440
Speaker 1: in a while, but very rarely. And there was an

2352
01:55:29,560 --> 01:55:32,760
Speaker 1: article that he said when he's making checks at the

2353
01:55:32,840 --> 01:55:35,640
Speaker 1: Linus grimmage and the middle linebacker is also making those

2354
01:55:35,720 --> 01:55:38,120
Speaker 1: checks at the Linus scrimmage, and it becomes a cat

2355
01:55:38,200 --> 01:55:41,120
Speaker 1: and mouse game between who can make the last check

2356
01:55:41,200 --> 01:55:45,000
Speaker 1: and execute the play the best. He says, that's when

2357
01:55:45,120 --> 01:55:47,360
Speaker 1: he has the most fun. And I don't know how

2358
01:55:47,440 --> 01:55:50,520
Speaker 1: many defenders or even actually in that category that can

2359
01:55:50,600 --> 01:55:54,080
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, it's probably just I'm sure it's in

2360
01:55:54,160 --> 01:55:56,320
Speaker 1: single digits. The guy he said that about with Sean

2361
01:55:56,440 --> 01:55:59,680
Speaker 1: Leef for Dallas, who he only plays against every four years.

2362
01:55:59,720 --> 01:56:02,400
Speaker 1: Any In fact, he didn't play against Leave this past year.

2363
01:56:02,800 --> 01:56:04,360
Speaker 1: I don't believe I think at least set out that

2364
01:56:04,440 --> 01:56:07,640
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving game. But yeah, that's that's the cat and mouse game.

2365
01:56:07,720 --> 01:56:11,400
Speaker 1: People people love that that middle linebacker. It's it's probably

2366
01:56:11,440 --> 01:56:15,560
Speaker 1: a decreased valued position and with these spread offenses that

2367
01:56:15,600 --> 01:56:18,560
Speaker 1: we're talking about in the NFL, but it's still your

2368
01:56:18,640 --> 01:56:20,600
Speaker 1: signal caller and that's a big deal for a lot

2369
01:56:20,640 --> 01:56:25,080
Speaker 1: of defenses. Andy, I wonder you mentioned about Philip Rivers

2370
01:56:25,160 --> 01:56:28,000
Speaker 1: and he'll always be linked with Eli Manning. What did

2371
01:56:28,040 --> 01:56:30,560
Speaker 1: you make of what Ben McAdoo had to say about

2372
01:56:30,640 --> 01:56:33,640
Speaker 1: Manning and the Giants last year and Odell Beckham and

2373
01:56:33,720 --> 01:56:36,000
Speaker 1: just sort of it was almost like he recanted much

2374
01:56:36,040 --> 01:56:38,880
Speaker 1: of what went on last year with the Giants. It seems. Yeah,

2375
01:56:38,920 --> 01:56:42,400
Speaker 1: I mean, just so I'm clearing, he's not worried about Manning. Corrected,

2376
01:56:42,440 --> 01:56:44,800
Speaker 1: I read the article. I'm trying to remember exactly what

2377
01:56:44,920 --> 01:56:47,640
Speaker 1: he said about Eli specifically. Yeah, I mean, I haven't

2378
01:56:47,680 --> 01:56:50,320
Speaker 1: seen any decline. I have not seen any decline from

2379
01:56:50,360 --> 01:56:54,360
Speaker 1: Manning on film. He just doesn't look he hasn't played well,

2380
01:56:54,440 --> 01:56:57,320
Speaker 1: but he's been in a very bad situation with the

2381
01:56:57,640 --> 01:57:00,640
Speaker 1: left tackle being poor, and then nobody has throw the

2382
01:57:00,680 --> 01:57:02,800
Speaker 1: ball too. That no wide receivers last year. They had

2383
01:57:02,840 --> 01:57:05,680
Speaker 1: to rewrite their offense as the season went along. Remember

2384
01:57:05,720 --> 01:57:08,040
Speaker 1: two years ago McAdoo when they won eleven games, and

2385
01:57:08,240 --> 01:57:10,240
Speaker 1: the offense was up and down that year as well,

2386
01:57:10,280 --> 01:57:13,360
Speaker 1: but they won eleven games. They were a three receiver

2387
01:57:13,560 --> 01:57:16,400
Speaker 1: offense on over ninety percent of the snaps. While all

2388
01:57:16,400 --> 01:57:19,080
Speaker 1: the receivers got hurt last year and they started incorporating

2389
01:57:19,120 --> 01:57:22,960
Speaker 1: a fullback extra tight ends. That's something I should guarantee

2390
01:57:23,080 --> 01:57:27,040
Speaker 1: they practiced maybe once or twice a day in training camera.

2391
01:57:27,360 --> 01:57:29,240
Speaker 1: They didn't give reps to that. That's not what their

2392
01:57:29,280 --> 01:57:32,360
Speaker 1: offense was. So I think you throw last season completely

2393
01:57:32,400 --> 01:57:35,040
Speaker 1: out the window. And then if you're just watching Manning

2394
01:57:35,080 --> 01:57:38,040
Speaker 1: and isolation when he's throwing the ball and when he's

2395
01:57:38,080 --> 01:57:40,400
Speaker 1: moving within the pocket, when he's taken hits, he's never

2396
01:57:40,480 --> 01:57:43,240
Speaker 1: been out, he's never been injured in his career. There's

2397
01:57:43,280 --> 01:57:45,520
Speaker 1: no difference now than when he was playing five or

2398
01:57:45,560 --> 01:57:48,120
Speaker 1: six years ago, at least nothing that's apparent on the surface.

2399
01:57:48,200 --> 01:57:50,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure. I'm sure it takes them longer to heal

2400
01:57:50,600 --> 01:57:55,320
Speaker 1: from games, but that's it doesn't transfer to Sunday. You know,

2401
01:57:55,440 --> 01:57:57,760
Speaker 1: you talk about the Giants and how they aren't up

2402
01:57:57,800 --> 01:57:59,200
Speaker 1: there on the East coast. He got back out and

2403
01:57:59,240 --> 01:58:02,440
Speaker 1: we talked about the the LA Chargers a minute ago.

2404
01:58:02,520 --> 01:58:04,160
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Rams for a minute. One of

2405
01:58:04,200 --> 01:58:07,560
Speaker 1: the most intriguing things obviously the reclamation project of Jared

2406
01:58:07,600 --> 01:58:09,720
Speaker 1: Goff last year and the great job Sean McVeigh did.

2407
01:58:09,760 --> 01:58:13,400
Speaker 1: But I want to talk about Wade Phillips and the defense.

2408
01:58:13,440 --> 01:58:15,480
Speaker 1: They got a couple of corners into the full this

2409
01:58:15,640 --> 01:58:18,920
Speaker 1: year and word coming out and it's obvious the Rams

2410
01:58:19,040 --> 01:58:21,880
Speaker 1: want to win it right now, and they're throwing in

2411
01:58:21,960 --> 01:58:23,880
Speaker 1: a lot of eggs into the basket they gave. They

2412
01:58:24,000 --> 01:58:26,480
Speaker 1: bolsted their defense this year, thinking their offense is going

2413
01:58:26,560 --> 01:58:29,120
Speaker 1: to score a lot of points. The Rams. It looks

2414
01:58:29,120 --> 01:58:31,160
Speaker 1: to me like and you can speak to this Andy,

2415
01:58:31,600 --> 01:58:34,920
Speaker 1: the Rams are in it to win it this year, absolutely,

2416
01:58:35,000 --> 01:58:37,240
Speaker 1: and it's the same reason that it worked for the

2417
01:58:37,280 --> 01:58:39,680
Speaker 1: Eagles last year. The Rams realize, we've got a young

2418
01:58:39,760 --> 01:58:42,520
Speaker 1: twob who fits our system really well. We can win

2419
01:58:42,640 --> 01:58:44,760
Speaker 1: with him. And the best part of a young QB

2420
01:58:45,000 --> 01:58:46,800
Speaker 1: is he's on his rookie deal, so he costs a

2421
01:58:46,880 --> 01:58:49,600
Speaker 1: fraction of what his actual market value is. So we

2422
01:58:49,680 --> 01:58:51,720
Speaker 1: have all this money to go throw at veteran players,

2423
01:58:51,720 --> 01:58:53,960
Speaker 1: and we saw the Eagles do that last year. We're

2424
01:58:54,000 --> 01:58:57,760
Speaker 1: seeing the Rams do that this year, and we'll see

2425
01:58:57,760 --> 01:59:00,520
Speaker 1: if it works. What I'm most curious about what a defense.

2426
01:59:00,640 --> 01:59:03,120
Speaker 1: Let's remember they also went on got Brandon Cooks on offense,

2427
01:59:03,160 --> 01:59:06,520
Speaker 1: so I mean they're a better offense, significantly better than

2428
01:59:06,560 --> 01:59:09,520
Speaker 1: they were a year ago now. But with that defense,

2429
01:59:09,600 --> 01:59:11,880
Speaker 1: when you put a key to leave and Marcus Peters

2430
01:59:11,920 --> 01:59:16,640
Speaker 1: as your cornerbacks outside, you've got about fifteen interceptions possible

2431
01:59:16,720 --> 01:59:19,880
Speaker 1: there with these guys. They're off coverage corners who jump routes,

2432
01:59:20,200 --> 01:59:22,560
Speaker 1: they drive on the ball, but you might have twelve

2433
01:59:22,680 --> 01:59:25,680
Speaker 1: or fifteen big plays given up as well because of

2434
01:59:25,720 --> 01:59:28,600
Speaker 1: that aggressive style. And what determines which win do you

2435
01:59:28,680 --> 01:59:31,440
Speaker 1: get the interceptions do you give up the big plays?

2436
01:59:31,520 --> 01:59:34,760
Speaker 1: The determining factor is can your pass rush get home?

2437
01:59:34,880 --> 01:59:39,000
Speaker 1: Because you have to make the quarterback play on your schedule. Defensively,

2438
01:59:39,360 --> 01:59:41,480
Speaker 1: you have to make him throw the ball sooner than

2439
01:59:41,560 --> 01:59:44,600
Speaker 1: he wants. That's how those corners can jump the routes.

2440
01:59:44,800 --> 01:59:47,080
Speaker 1: If the quarterbacks throwing the ball when he wants, if

2441
01:59:47,120 --> 01:59:52,200
Speaker 1: he has protection, then that aggressiveness at cornerback becomes very

2442
01:59:52,320 --> 01:59:55,840
Speaker 1: risky in the times, very problematic for the defense. The

2443
01:59:55,960 --> 01:59:58,920
Speaker 1: Rams have Donald and Sue inside, that's a great tandem.

2444
01:59:59,280 --> 02:00:01,560
Speaker 1: I wonder about their edge rushers a little bit, and

2445
02:00:01,600 --> 02:00:04,600
Speaker 1: if they have anybody that can scare teams off the

2446
02:00:04,800 --> 02:00:06,560
Speaker 1: edge and force you to keep a tight end in

2447
02:00:06,640 --> 02:00:09,680
Speaker 1: the block. I'm not sure they do. But Wade Phillips

2448
02:00:09,720 --> 02:00:12,520
Speaker 1: I asked him about it, and he wasn't too worried

2449
02:00:12,560 --> 02:00:14,400
Speaker 1: about He said, well, we had like forty eight sacks

2450
02:00:14,480 --> 02:00:17,400
Speaker 1: last year, which is true, so we'll wait and see.

2451
02:00:17,440 --> 02:00:19,360
Speaker 1: But I just wonder about their edge rush. If they

2452
02:00:19,400 --> 02:00:21,640
Speaker 1: don't have that, they're gonna have some issues at cornerback.

2453
02:00:21,800 --> 02:00:23,960
Speaker 1: I just in my mind had an image of weights

2454
02:00:24,000 --> 02:00:25,880
Speaker 1: in well, we have forty eight sacks last year. Now,

2455
02:00:25,960 --> 02:00:31,920
Speaker 1: anyway we did? All right, Any chance I got to

2456
02:00:32,000 --> 02:00:34,040
Speaker 1: do a weight imitation, I'll take it. Andy, Andy, you

2457
02:00:34,080 --> 02:00:35,840
Speaker 1: said you're going to Canton and you may come to

2458
02:00:35,920 --> 02:00:38,640
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh to see the Bills at camp. Last question for you,

2459
02:00:38,840 --> 02:00:41,120
Speaker 1: what would be the story that you think would interest

2460
02:00:41,240 --> 02:00:44,840
Speaker 1: your national audience at MMQB or Sports Illustrated. What would

2461
02:00:44,840 --> 02:00:46,920
Speaker 1: be the storyline that might get you to come to Pittsburgh.

2462
02:00:46,960 --> 02:00:48,480
Speaker 1: What do you think, folks are most interested about the

2463
02:00:48,520 --> 02:00:52,160
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. It's probably your rookie quarterback. They'll tend to

2464
02:00:52,200 --> 02:00:55,240
Speaker 1: move the meter a little bit there. So Josh Allen

2465
02:00:55,280 --> 02:00:57,200
Speaker 1: and how he transfers the v NFL. I think he's

2466
02:00:57,360 --> 02:01:00,400
Speaker 1: very similar in terms of how you can play with him.

2467
02:01:00,480 --> 02:01:03,440
Speaker 1: His style, thank he is very similar to Cam Newton.

2468
02:01:03,480 --> 02:01:05,200
Speaker 1: And it doesn't surprise me that a team with a

2469
02:01:05,240 --> 02:01:08,480
Speaker 1: bunch of former Panthers execs and coach would would go

2470
02:01:08,520 --> 02:01:11,480
Speaker 1: out and draft Josh Allen. I'm curious to see how

2471
02:01:11,520 --> 02:01:13,320
Speaker 1: they use him and when they use them and if

2472
02:01:13,360 --> 02:01:15,000
Speaker 1: they use them in the running game like they use

2473
02:01:15,120 --> 02:01:18,320
Speaker 1: Newton in Carolina. All Right, I hope you get there, Andy,

2474
02:01:18,360 --> 02:01:20,000
Speaker 1: if not, have fun and Ken, you're gonna have a

2475
02:01:20,080 --> 02:01:22,360
Speaker 1: great weekend, I'm sure. With Jerry Kramer, that's a really

2476
02:01:22,400 --> 02:01:25,560
Speaker 1: great Anna. That's pretty cool. Congratulations to you. Well. Thanks,

2477
02:01:25,600 --> 02:01:27,280
Speaker 1: and I hope, I hope I do get out to

2478
02:01:27,320 --> 02:01:29,560
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and I'll certainly come say hello and drop by

2479
02:01:29,600 --> 02:01:31,840
Speaker 1: the set. I love visiting with you guys. Thanks all right, Andy,

2480
02:01:31,880 --> 02:01:34,560
Speaker 1: Andy Benoit one of our best guests NFL analysts for

2481
02:01:34,880 --> 02:01:38,920
Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated and uh the MMQB dot SI dot com

2482
02:01:40,040 --> 02:01:42,760
Speaker 1: there's so many good writers at MMQB, and Peter King

2483
02:01:42,880 --> 02:01:44,680
Speaker 1: has gone in fact that I didn't read it today,

2484
02:01:44,720 --> 02:01:47,160
Speaker 1: but he just posted is it good? Is just like

2485
02:01:47,280 --> 02:01:49,480
Speaker 1: the old yet? But look what he left behind the

2486
02:01:49,640 --> 02:01:52,840
Speaker 1: legacy of people Jenny Brentass, we had last week, Andy Benoit,

2487
02:01:53,160 --> 02:01:56,640
Speaker 1: Robert Klemcoe. Then there's some really good, talented young writers

2488
02:01:56,680 --> 02:01:59,320
Speaker 1: who have kind of fresh perspectives on the NFL that

2489
02:01:59,400 --> 02:02:02,360
Speaker 1: Peter King created with MMQB. It's interesting too because in

2490
02:02:02,800 --> 02:02:05,480
Speaker 1: this business you always feel about it. It's about competition,

2491
02:02:05,560 --> 02:02:07,400
Speaker 1: where the teams are vying for when they got to win.

2492
02:02:07,480 --> 02:02:09,640
Speaker 1: They can't give up any information and they can't do

2493
02:02:09,720 --> 02:02:13,480
Speaker 1: this or that. You know, guy, all those guys at MMQB, Revere, Pete,

2494
02:02:14,240 --> 02:02:16,800
Speaker 1: Peter King, and Peter King's cheering for them, you know.

2495
02:02:16,960 --> 02:02:19,880
Speaker 1: And it's a real it's a close knit group. It's

2496
02:02:19,880 --> 02:02:22,320
Speaker 1: a bunch of really good writers who helped each other.

2497
02:02:22,800 --> 02:02:25,720
Speaker 1: Peter helped a lot of guys get get started, hired him,

2498
02:02:26,320 --> 02:02:28,040
Speaker 1: went out on his own a few years back, you know,

2499
02:02:28,120 --> 02:02:30,879
Speaker 1: when when they when he finally set up a MMQB

2500
02:02:31,040 --> 02:02:34,440
Speaker 1: on his own, and uh, it's just it's nice to

2501
02:02:34,600 --> 02:02:38,320
Speaker 1: see um people do their business the right way. You know,

2502
02:02:38,400 --> 02:02:41,040
Speaker 1: these guys all remain friends, they're all cheering for each other.

2503
02:02:41,160 --> 02:02:43,640
Speaker 1: And and Peter continues to write and does exactly what

2504
02:02:43,760 --> 02:02:45,400
Speaker 1: he does. And there's a lot of people who are

2505
02:02:45,840 --> 02:02:48,320
Speaker 1: who have taken up what he made at Monday morning

2506
02:02:48,400 --> 02:02:50,360
Speaker 1: Quarterback and running with it. It's it's fun to see

2507
02:02:50,600 --> 02:02:53,280
Speaker 1: you've been dying to talk more about the four o'clock

2508
02:02:53,360 --> 02:02:55,440
Speaker 1: deadline for the franchise. Guys, right, you want to do

2509
02:02:55,480 --> 02:02:57,040
Speaker 1: that after the break? Yeah, we can do that for

2510
02:02:57,040 --> 02:02:59,200
Speaker 1: a minute. Yeah, I'm gonna get to true and False

2511
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Speaker 1: and all folk falls coming up as well, So come

2512
02:03:01,560 --> 02:03:04,080
Speaker 1: on back for more. John Murfy Seve Tasker, One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 1: presented by Come I to Health from One Bill's Drive.

2514
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Speaker 1: And this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. That's what we call

2515
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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live. It's John Murphy's Steve Tasker here until

2516
02:03:23,240 --> 02:03:25,200
Speaker 1: three o'clock today. We got another three hour show coming

2517
02:03:25,280 --> 02:03:27,760
Speaker 1: up tomorrow. It's another nice hot day that you go

2518
02:03:27,880 --> 02:03:30,080
Speaker 1: with this hot weather, Steve or you love it? Yeah,

2519
02:03:30,520 --> 02:03:32,960
Speaker 1: you grew up in Western Kansas where this is nothing right,

2520
02:03:33,040 --> 02:03:35,520
Speaker 1: this kind of temporary. The heat is there in its

2521
02:03:35,720 --> 02:03:38,800
Speaker 1: dryer heat out there in West it's more of a

2522
02:03:38,880 --> 02:03:42,920
Speaker 1: desert kind of feel farm country. But yeah, this boy,

2523
02:03:42,920 --> 02:03:45,720
Speaker 1: it was hot early this morning, it was hot yesterday afternoon.

2524
02:03:45,840 --> 02:03:49,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's been great. But you don't mind it.

2525
02:03:49,480 --> 02:03:51,720
Speaker 1: I don't mind it. I mean I would you rather

2526
02:03:51,800 --> 02:03:54,800
Speaker 1: have seventies? Oh yeah, everybody would, but you know it's

2527
02:03:55,160 --> 02:03:58,920
Speaker 1: the hotter the betters. Fine, it's great. I love it,

2528
02:03:59,000 --> 02:04:00,840
Speaker 1: just as long as it's not or something. How about

2529
02:04:00,880 --> 02:04:04,280
Speaker 1: on your playing days, did you dread weather like this? Well,

2530
02:04:04,640 --> 02:04:06,800
Speaker 1: if you're out on the two days or something. Yeah, sure,

2531
02:04:07,160 --> 02:04:10,320
Speaker 1: but no. Good weather is good weather wherever you are. Okay,

2532
02:04:11,040 --> 02:04:14,840
Speaker 1: all right, there's a deadline day in the NFL today

2533
02:04:14,880 --> 02:04:18,320
Speaker 1: franchise tag players. The deadline for those franchise players to

2534
02:04:18,400 --> 02:04:21,680
Speaker 1: sign a long term contract is four pm today. Notable

2535
02:04:21,800 --> 02:04:25,400
Speaker 1: names Levan Bell the Steelers the tag. It's the second

2536
02:04:25,480 --> 02:04:28,080
Speaker 1: year he's been tagged. If he doesn't get a long

2537
02:04:28,200 --> 02:04:31,959
Speaker 1: term deal, which people are pretty pessimistic, he would probably

2538
02:04:32,120 --> 02:04:34,840
Speaker 1: play under his franchise tag, which is fourteen and a

2539
02:04:34,880 --> 02:04:37,320
Speaker 1: half million. More on that. In a moment, LaMarcus join

2540
02:04:37,400 --> 02:04:40,360
Speaker 1: their safety for the Rams, his tag number would be

2541
02:04:40,720 --> 02:04:44,440
Speaker 1: eleven point almost three eleven point two eight seven million

2542
02:04:44,520 --> 02:04:46,840
Speaker 1: dollars for a one year deal and the word out

2543
02:04:46,880 --> 02:04:49,800
Speaker 1: of Los Angeles is that no learned term deal is expected.

2544
02:04:50,240 --> 02:04:54,520
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Asa from the Lions defensive end his tag number,

2545
02:04:54,640 --> 02:04:59,200
Speaker 1: it's big, seventeen point one million, and there's no deal.

2546
02:04:59,280 --> 02:05:02,200
Speaker 1: They're coming, We'll play with the franchise tag, according to sources.

2547
02:05:02,440 --> 02:05:05,600
Speaker 1: And finally, DeMarcus Lawrence of the Cowboys, same number, seventeen

2548
02:05:05,680 --> 02:05:08,520
Speaker 1: point one million, all based on you know, what the

2549
02:05:08,560 --> 02:05:11,000
Speaker 1: salary cap is, and the tag numbers at each position

2550
02:05:11,880 --> 02:05:14,320
Speaker 1: based on the average of the highest played players at

2551
02:05:14,320 --> 02:05:20,120
Speaker 1: the players. Um it's different now. See four years ago.

2552
02:05:20,240 --> 02:05:22,720
Speaker 1: Three years ago, teams would say, well, we're not gonna

2553
02:05:23,040 --> 02:05:25,120
Speaker 1: We're not gonna let a guy play under his franchise tag.

2554
02:05:25,200 --> 02:05:27,720
Speaker 1: It'll ruin our cap. It's too much of a hit.

2555
02:05:28,760 --> 02:05:31,200
Speaker 1: The player didn't want it because of the lack of security.

2556
02:05:31,600 --> 02:05:34,600
Speaker 1: Because the salary cap has gone up so much and

2557
02:05:34,720 --> 02:05:37,000
Speaker 1: the numbers have gone up so much, those numbers don't

2558
02:05:37,120 --> 02:05:38,800
Speaker 1: kill the cap the way they used to three or

2559
02:05:38,840 --> 02:05:40,800
Speaker 1: four years ago. You don't you said it earlier. Do

2560
02:05:40,840 --> 02:05:42,320
Speaker 1: you want to pay levy on bill fourteen and a

2561
02:05:42,360 --> 02:05:44,840
Speaker 1: half million? Oh, but you can live with it. You

2562
02:05:44,920 --> 02:05:46,720
Speaker 1: can make it work. They did last year. At twelve

2563
02:05:46,760 --> 02:05:48,560
Speaker 1: point two million And the reason it's easier to live

2564
02:05:48,600 --> 02:05:50,520
Speaker 1: with is because you know he's gonna be playing hard

2565
02:05:50,600 --> 02:05:52,200
Speaker 1: for the money because he wants to get a deal

2566
02:05:52,280 --> 02:05:55,160
Speaker 1: after that with you or somebody else, you're gonna get

2567
02:05:55,200 --> 02:05:57,400
Speaker 1: their best effort. And I hate to say it like that,

2568
02:05:57,480 --> 02:06:00,600
Speaker 1: but it's listen, once you sign, we've seen it too often.

2569
02:06:01,240 --> 02:06:03,280
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, and this is why you would go

2570
02:06:03,360 --> 02:06:06,680
Speaker 1: around talking about guaranteed deals, and this is these guys

2571
02:06:06,720 --> 02:06:10,120
Speaker 1: will sign this in lieu of a higher number oft

2572
02:06:10,360 --> 02:06:13,840
Speaker 1: that's guaranteed so and a multi year So these guys

2573
02:06:13,840 --> 02:06:16,320
Speaker 1: aren't gonna they'll sign this. They'd rather do the one

2574
02:06:16,400 --> 02:06:18,400
Speaker 1: year deal and get this knowing they're gonna get it,

2575
02:06:19,440 --> 02:06:21,200
Speaker 1: because security is all what it's all about. But how

2576
02:06:21,200 --> 02:06:23,800
Speaker 1: many times have we seen and there's been a lot

2577
02:06:23,840 --> 02:06:28,360
Speaker 1: of talk lately about guaranteed contracts in the NFL. I

2578
02:06:28,400 --> 02:06:30,640
Speaker 1: don't think you're gonna see him. Here's what when you

2579
02:06:30,800 --> 02:06:34,600
Speaker 1: get guaranteed money, it's okay. And I'm not saying anything

2580
02:06:34,600 --> 02:06:39,360
Speaker 1: about about these other sports. I'm like baseball, the NBA, hockey,

2581
02:06:39,960 --> 02:06:45,360
Speaker 1: which whatever. If you're gonna get guaranteed money, those sports

2582
02:06:45,520 --> 02:06:48,320
Speaker 1: play eighty two games one hundred and sixty two games.

2583
02:06:48,800 --> 02:06:52,800
Speaker 1: There's a they're grueling seasons, yes, but they are not

2584
02:06:53,080 --> 02:06:58,120
Speaker 1: as physically demanding as football. Football is more dangerous physically,

2585
02:06:58,760 --> 02:07:02,720
Speaker 1: and it when you've already been guaranteed the money that

2586
02:07:02,760 --> 02:07:07,240
Speaker 1: you're gonna make, it is hard to muscle up and

2587
02:07:07,480 --> 02:07:11,000
Speaker 1: jump into the tree grinder of the NFL. No, and

2588
02:07:11,160 --> 02:07:14,240
Speaker 1: you really don't have to because you've already been paid.

2589
02:07:15,120 --> 02:07:17,760
Speaker 1: That is something that the league fights against, and I

2590
02:07:17,840 --> 02:07:19,720
Speaker 1: think for good reason. We've seen it all too often

2591
02:07:19,720 --> 02:07:21,440
Speaker 1: when a guy signs a big deal and then takes

2592
02:07:21,480 --> 02:07:22,920
Speaker 1: his foot off the gap. So what does a one

2593
02:07:23,000 --> 02:07:25,880
Speaker 1: year deal do for a fairly young guy like lebian Bell?

2594
02:07:26,880 --> 02:07:28,440
Speaker 1: A one year deal and he played on a one

2595
02:07:28,520 --> 02:07:31,000
Speaker 1: year deal last year, you know he's rolling the dice.

2596
02:07:31,240 --> 02:07:34,160
Speaker 1: He is still but he can also look after if

2597
02:07:34,160 --> 02:07:36,080
Speaker 1: he plays on the tech this year, he can look

2598
02:07:36,080 --> 02:07:40,560
Speaker 1: at twenty six point six million dollars he's made over

2599
02:07:40,640 --> 02:07:43,880
Speaker 1: the last two seasons and not guaranteed money really just

2600
02:07:43,960 --> 02:07:46,280
Speaker 1: one year guarantee And what feel good about it? I

2601
02:07:46,320 --> 02:07:48,480
Speaker 1: would guess so, right? He? I mean five years ago

2602
02:07:48,560 --> 02:07:53,280
Speaker 1: twenty six million was five years Yeah, huge money? Yeah, yeah,

2603
02:07:53,400 --> 02:07:55,120
Speaker 1: I think he does feel good about it because I

2604
02:07:55,200 --> 02:07:57,240
Speaker 1: think it always feels good when you bet on yourself

2605
02:07:57,280 --> 02:08:01,240
Speaker 1: and you come through. And he will have played last year,

2606
02:08:01,280 --> 02:08:03,720
Speaker 1: played extremely well, got him to the gut him to

2607
02:08:03,720 --> 02:08:06,120
Speaker 1: the divisional round of the playoffs, and helped him score

2608
02:08:06,160 --> 02:08:08,640
Speaker 1: over forty points in that game in a loss. I mean,

2609
02:08:08,720 --> 02:08:10,960
Speaker 1: this is a guy who's laid it on the line

2610
02:08:11,000 --> 02:08:13,280
Speaker 1: for that team and played extremely well for him. And

2611
02:08:13,640 --> 02:08:16,480
Speaker 1: this year, if he does that again, that's a lot

2612
02:08:16,560 --> 02:08:19,720
Speaker 1: of money he will have. And you know, when you

2613
02:08:19,800 --> 02:08:22,000
Speaker 1: lay your head down to night, you feel pretty good

2614
02:08:22,000 --> 02:08:25,560
Speaker 1: about betting on yourself and coming through. Um, Joe Flacco

2615
02:08:25,680 --> 02:08:27,960
Speaker 1: did it years ago when the Ravens won their second

2616
02:08:28,000 --> 02:08:30,280
Speaker 1: Super Bowl title and he had taken the last year

2617
02:08:30,360 --> 02:08:32,640
Speaker 1: he's gonna he did it and they had to come

2618
02:08:32,680 --> 02:08:35,360
Speaker 1: across and pay him, and look at they paid him.

2619
02:08:35,400 --> 02:08:38,040
Speaker 1: And now you know, Joe Flacco has kind of disappeared.

2620
02:08:38,480 --> 02:08:41,200
Speaker 1: Yeah there, you know why. You know, they guarantee had

2621
02:08:41,240 --> 02:08:43,280
Speaker 1: money and all of a sudden, you know, these guys

2622
02:08:43,360 --> 02:08:46,240
Speaker 1: stopped playing. That's why guaranteed contracts are a hard sell

2623
02:08:46,360 --> 02:08:48,800
Speaker 1: in the NFL. He's twenty six years old. Bell will

2624
02:08:48,800 --> 02:08:51,920
Speaker 1: be twenty seven going into next year. Well, Levan Bell

2625
02:08:52,080 --> 02:08:54,640
Speaker 1: at age twenty seven at running back. Will he ever

2626
02:08:54,800 --> 02:08:57,640
Speaker 1: get the kind of deal the team that players used

2627
02:08:57,680 --> 02:09:00,840
Speaker 1: to dream of, you know, long term, big money upfront,

2628
02:09:00,880 --> 02:09:05,240
Speaker 1: guaranteed money, and some protection down the lane. If he

2629
02:09:05,280 --> 02:09:07,320
Speaker 1: does get hurt, I mean, when he's twenty seven going

2630
02:09:07,360 --> 02:09:09,880
Speaker 1: into next year, having played on the on the tag

2631
02:09:10,240 --> 02:09:13,000
Speaker 1: contract for two years, you just forget about it because

2632
02:09:13,080 --> 02:09:16,280
Speaker 1: that was the that was the goal not too long

2633
02:09:16,320 --> 02:09:18,080
Speaker 1: ago in the NFL. Get a long term deal with

2634
02:09:18,160 --> 02:09:20,400
Speaker 1: guaranteed money and you'll be set for life. Now, a

2635
02:09:20,440 --> 02:09:22,640
Speaker 1: guy like Bell says, I don't care about long term.

2636
02:09:22,720 --> 02:09:24,760
Speaker 1: I'm playing two years and making twenty six million over

2637
02:09:24,840 --> 02:09:27,160
Speaker 1: those two years. I wonder. I wonder if he doesn't

2638
02:09:27,480 --> 02:09:29,320
Speaker 1: if you're the I don't think the team does. If

2639
02:09:29,360 --> 02:09:31,120
Speaker 1: you're a team, I don't think you can count on

2640
02:09:31,200 --> 02:09:33,920
Speaker 1: a guy twenty seven out should be right in the

2641
02:09:34,000 --> 02:09:36,360
Speaker 1: middle of his of his prime. I mean, he should

2642
02:09:36,360 --> 02:09:38,600
Speaker 1: be playing really good football, not only this year, but

2643
02:09:38,680 --> 02:09:42,640
Speaker 1: this next year, the year after, so you're going to

2644
02:09:42,720 --> 02:09:44,560
Speaker 1: get a value for him. But you know, you've got

2645
02:09:44,640 --> 02:09:47,680
Speaker 1: to have a guy that's highly motivated and yeah, and

2646
02:09:47,760 --> 02:09:49,160
Speaker 1: I don't think he'd go out on that limb. I

2647
02:09:49,200 --> 02:09:51,280
Speaker 1: don't think he'd go out there and jump up above

2648
02:09:51,360 --> 02:09:54,440
Speaker 1: the franchise tag to give him a long term deal

2649
02:09:54,520 --> 02:09:59,120
Speaker 1: and guarantee it. I think that's I think that's crazy talk,

2650
02:09:59,200 --> 02:10:01,640
Speaker 1: right for running back money. Last thing I have for

2651
02:10:01,760 --> 02:10:03,600
Speaker 1: you on this topic and this, I want to get

2652
02:10:03,640 --> 02:10:07,000
Speaker 1: your player's perspective on this. Leban Bell probably not going

2653
02:10:07,040 --> 02:10:08,200
Speaker 1: to get a deal in the next hour and a

2654
02:10:08,240 --> 02:10:11,280
Speaker 1: half and we'll sign his tag. Last year, he waited

2655
02:10:11,400 --> 02:10:14,080
Speaker 1: till September fourth, likely to do it again. Is there

2656
02:10:14,120 --> 02:10:16,120
Speaker 1: a benefit? Is there that much of a benefit to

2657
02:10:16,240 --> 02:10:18,320
Speaker 1: not having to go to camp that would make this

2658
02:10:18,480 --> 02:10:22,480
Speaker 1: a better alternative for him? I mean benefit or detriment.

2659
02:10:22,600 --> 02:10:24,720
Speaker 1: That's good. I mean he's not risking anything sitting on

2660
02:10:24,800 --> 02:10:26,840
Speaker 1: his couch and just working out by himself. He's not

2661
02:10:26,920 --> 02:10:29,960
Speaker 1: really He's not risking a non contact injury or a

2662
02:10:30,160 --> 02:10:33,200
Speaker 1: muscle pull or a muscle tear or something that would

2663
02:10:33,480 --> 02:10:38,360
Speaker 1: you know, could extend into the season. And certainly he

2664
02:10:39,280 --> 02:10:41,280
Speaker 1: knows what they're doing offensively, so I don't think there's

2665
02:10:41,280 --> 02:10:43,440
Speaker 1: any kind of thing. Yeah, it'd be nice for him

2666
02:10:43,440 --> 02:10:45,400
Speaker 1: to get in there and get get to shake the

2667
02:10:45,480 --> 02:10:47,120
Speaker 1: rust off so it does do it doesn't have to

2668
02:10:47,160 --> 02:10:48,840
Speaker 1: do it during a regular season. But I remember last

2669
02:10:48,920 --> 02:10:50,080
Speaker 1: year he came in and all of a sudden, they're

2670
02:10:50,080 --> 02:10:51,800
Speaker 1: handing it to him thirty times a game, right off

2671
02:10:51,800 --> 02:10:56,520
Speaker 1: the bat. So there's wait, they didn't wait. You're ready? Yeah? Hey,

2672
02:10:56,560 --> 02:10:59,600
Speaker 1: our Twitter poll, our Twitter question today last year's AFC

2673
02:10:59,680 --> 02:11:03,440
Speaker 1: player of teams Patriots, Steelers, Bills, Jaguars, Titans, Chiefs. How

2674
02:11:03,480 --> 02:11:06,040
Speaker 1: many of those are back this year? And why? Asking

2675
02:11:06,080 --> 02:11:07,560
Speaker 1: you to give us a call on that eight oh

2676
02:11:07,640 --> 02:11:10,040
Speaker 1: three oh five fifty and toll free one eight eight

2677
02:11:10,200 --> 02:11:13,720
Speaker 1: eight by fifty two five fifty. Jonathan and Alden has

2678
02:11:13,720 --> 02:11:18,200
Speaker 1: a thought on that, Jonathan, go ahead, Hey, John Um,

2679
02:11:18,480 --> 02:11:21,160
Speaker 1: I would say the Steelers and the Patriots are probably

2680
02:11:21,160 --> 02:11:23,800
Speaker 1: the most likely. It's kind I'm kind of funny. Earlier

2681
02:11:23,800 --> 02:11:27,000
Speaker 1: today people will call him cool people, cool a drinkers,

2682
02:11:27,200 --> 02:11:29,400
Speaker 1: thinking there's no way the Bill's gonna be back. Well,

2683
02:11:29,400 --> 02:11:31,839
Speaker 1: I remember last year, after we got rid of Watkins

2684
02:11:31,920 --> 02:11:34,680
Speaker 1: and Derby, everyone say there's no way the Bills would

2685
02:11:34,680 --> 02:11:37,480
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. Sist knows no way. The builds a

2686
02:11:37,480 --> 02:11:39,600
Speaker 1: bit playoffs a while to make the playoffs. Well, this

2687
02:11:39,720 --> 02:11:41,720
Speaker 1: year I hit the same problem. Was we lost Tyrod Taylor,

2688
02:11:41,760 --> 02:11:44,360
Speaker 1: we lost Eric Wood. Everyone's to get up this build

2689
02:11:44,480 --> 02:11:47,000
Speaker 1: up taking, build up taking. Well, I hope they prove

2690
02:11:47,040 --> 02:11:49,280
Speaker 1: them wrong again. All right, thanks very much. It's a

2691
02:11:49,320 --> 02:11:52,120
Speaker 1: good point. Let's go to Bob and Cheek Dwaga. Hello, Bob,

2692
02:11:52,160 --> 02:11:54,320
Speaker 1: you're on the air of this. Yeah, I just wanted

2693
02:11:54,320 --> 02:11:56,520
Speaker 1: to ask you, guys, how do they figure that franchise

2694
02:11:56,640 --> 02:11:58,280
Speaker 1: take amount? I mean, I thought it used to be

2695
02:11:58,400 --> 02:12:01,000
Speaker 1: the average of the top five players or something, the

2696
02:12:01,120 --> 02:12:03,760
Speaker 1: top five players at that position. Yeah, that's what it is.

2697
02:12:05,080 --> 02:12:10,320
Speaker 1: So so there's more than uh, there's guys making more

2698
02:12:10,360 --> 02:12:15,840
Speaker 1: than fourteen fourteen million. Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, yeah there

2699
02:12:15,880 --> 02:12:18,360
Speaker 1: are And you go, um, let's see who would it be.

2700
02:12:18,600 --> 02:12:21,600
Speaker 1: Let me guess that's a good question. You gotta go

2701
02:12:21,680 --> 02:12:23,440
Speaker 1: down the list to find out who the highest paid

2702
02:12:23,520 --> 02:12:28,240
Speaker 1: running backs are, and it would probably be Um, I

2703
02:12:28,280 --> 02:12:32,000
Speaker 1: don't know if Yeah, that's a good question. Is who

2704
02:12:32,080 --> 02:12:34,760
Speaker 1: those guys are that make up that five highest paid

2705
02:12:35,960 --> 02:12:39,520
Speaker 1: players and particularly looking it up, Yeah, I'm pretty sure

2706
02:12:39,560 --> 02:12:43,960
Speaker 1: that has not changed. Um, that's that's the That is

2707
02:12:44,040 --> 02:12:46,480
Speaker 1: the I'm trying what running back would it be? That's

2708
02:12:46,560 --> 02:12:49,720
Speaker 1: the question. Could be somebody like some older guy like

2709
02:12:49,840 --> 02:12:53,320
Speaker 1: Frank Gore of Thandianapolis. Although I don't think I think

2710
02:12:53,400 --> 02:12:57,240
Speaker 1: he's he's in Miami now, right, all right, let me

2711
02:12:57,320 --> 02:12:59,400
Speaker 1: say this too about lady on Bell and maybe this

2712
02:12:59,560 --> 02:13:02,520
Speaker 1: is how that number has arrived at It's it'll be

2713
02:13:02,600 --> 02:13:04,920
Speaker 1: the second consecutive year he plays on the tag. For

2714
02:13:05,040 --> 02:13:06,880
Speaker 1: a player to be tag two straight years, the team

2715
02:13:06,960 --> 02:13:10,520
Speaker 1: must pay one hundred twenty percent of the player's previous salary.

2716
02:13:11,120 --> 02:13:14,440
Speaker 1: So maybe that's how they're figuring fourteen and a half million, right,

2717
02:13:14,520 --> 02:13:16,680
Speaker 1: So it's not the average of the top right, that's

2718
02:13:16,720 --> 02:13:20,720
Speaker 1: how there's nobody making much more than Lashawn is well.

2719
02:13:20,840 --> 02:13:23,720
Speaker 1: The exclusive franchise player must be offered a one year

2720
02:13:23,760 --> 02:13:25,640
Speaker 1: contract for an amount no less than the average of

2721
02:13:25,720 --> 02:13:28,800
Speaker 1: the top five salaries at the players position as of

2722
02:13:28,880 --> 02:13:30,920
Speaker 1: a date in April of the current year in which

2723
02:13:31,000 --> 02:13:35,680
Speaker 1: the tag m will apply, or one twenty percent of

2724
02:13:35,720 --> 02:13:41,200
Speaker 1: the player's previous salary, whichever is greater. Okay, that makes sense. Thank, okay, thanks,

2725
02:13:41,640 --> 02:13:43,240
Speaker 1: it's going to be able to answer a question. Yeah,

2726
02:13:44,080 --> 02:13:46,680
Speaker 1: here's Jeremy in Colesville, New York. Hello, Jeremy, welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show. Thank you, gentlemen. To think the highest page

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Speaker 1: running back might be Freeman currently, maybe I can look

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02:13:55,600 --> 02:13:58,720
Speaker 1: that up. What's your next question. The next question or

2730
02:13:58,720 --> 02:14:02,280
Speaker 1: a statement is talking about the physicality of sports. Steve's comment,

2731
02:14:03,960 --> 02:14:08,560
Speaker 1: I think all sports had their equal physicality aspects of it.

2732
02:14:09,200 --> 02:14:12,160
Speaker 1: And eighty two games in hockey where you're constantly moving

2733
02:14:12,280 --> 02:14:15,200
Speaker 1: on skates and ice versus when you line up you

2734
02:14:15,240 --> 02:14:19,680
Speaker 1: know you're gonna hit somebody is slightly different. But you know,

2735
02:14:19,800 --> 02:14:22,680
Speaker 1: the overall money for running back, I kind of look

2736
02:14:22,680 --> 02:14:25,560
Speaker 1: at it as good offensive line as well. Pittsburgh has

2737
02:14:25,560 --> 02:14:28,320
Speaker 1: had one of the best offensive lines, same thing with Dallas.

2738
02:14:28,360 --> 02:14:32,360
Speaker 1: They've gone through to marcol Murray, Szekiel Elliott. The offensive

2739
02:14:32,400 --> 02:14:35,240
Speaker 1: line really makes that running back. Those guys deserve a

2740
02:14:35,280 --> 02:14:37,000
Speaker 1: little bit more than what the running you know, those

2741
02:14:37,560 --> 02:14:42,200
Speaker 1: skilled positions get. They're in the trenches all the time. Yeah,

2742
02:14:43,480 --> 02:14:45,600
Speaker 1: it might be right. I mean, there's no question. I

2743
02:14:45,680 --> 02:14:47,920
Speaker 1: think the teams with the best offensive lines are usually

2744
02:14:47,920 --> 02:14:49,960
Speaker 1: the one that win the most games. And I was

2745
02:14:50,040 --> 02:14:53,680
Speaker 1: checking out salaries as well, and Levion Bells already the

2746
02:14:53,720 --> 02:14:56,960
Speaker 1: highest paid running back in the league by quite a

2747
02:14:57,000 --> 02:14:58,840
Speaker 1: little bit of a margin. Last year. Of course, he

2748
02:14:58,960 --> 02:15:02,320
Speaker 1: made the fourteen and a half. This year be fourteen

2749
02:15:02,360 --> 02:15:07,040
Speaker 1: and a half, and the next guy closest to him

2750
02:15:07,160 --> 02:15:10,880
Speaker 1: on the list would be as I get down at

2751
02:15:10,960 --> 02:15:13,280
Speaker 1: Jerick McKinnon with the nine Ers ten and a half

2752
02:15:14,120 --> 02:15:16,920
Speaker 1: and Jay McCoy with the Bills eight point nine million,

2753
02:15:17,760 --> 02:15:22,000
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott six point eight million. So Levan Bell's money

2754
02:15:22,120 --> 02:15:23,880
Speaker 1: comes from as a result of playing under the cap

2755
02:15:23,960 --> 02:15:25,320
Speaker 1: for two or three years. That's how they get to

2756
02:15:25,400 --> 02:15:27,120
Speaker 1: fourteen and a half million, right, and they're gonna give

2757
02:15:27,160 --> 02:15:29,920
Speaker 1: him one hundred and twenty percent? Yeah, all right? NFL

2758
02:15:30,000 --> 02:15:32,080
Speaker 1: True or false? Brought to you by Yancey's Fancy New

2759
02:15:32,200 --> 02:15:36,360
Speaker 1: York's Artisan Cheese. Aaron Rodgers, we mentioned this during the

2760
02:15:37,040 --> 02:15:39,520
Speaker 1: during the updates today, wants to play for the Packers

2761
02:15:39,640 --> 02:15:42,720
Speaker 1: until he's forty years old. He turns thirty five in December.

2762
02:15:42,760 --> 02:15:45,320
Speaker 1: It'll be his fourteenth NFL season coming off the injury.

2763
02:15:45,560 --> 02:15:49,120
Speaker 1: He told Peter King of NBC Sports, playing until he's

2764
02:15:49,160 --> 02:15:51,760
Speaker 1: forty remains his goal. Aaron Rodgers will play until he's

2765
02:15:51,800 --> 02:15:54,400
Speaker 1: forty True false? What do you think, Steve? I think so?

2766
02:15:54,680 --> 02:15:56,200
Speaker 1: I think he will play untill he's forte And he's

2767
02:15:56,240 --> 02:15:58,040
Speaker 1: gonna play for the Packers until he's forte and he's

2768
02:15:58,040 --> 02:15:59,920
Speaker 1: gonna sign the deal within the next couple of weeks.

2769
02:16:00,040 --> 02:16:04,880
Speaker 1: Didn't make that happen. The guy is he's he can

2770
02:16:05,120 --> 02:16:08,400
Speaker 1: forget what happened last years. He's durable. He's had two

2771
02:16:08,480 --> 02:16:10,480
Speaker 1: hits in his career and both of them ended up

2772
02:16:10,520 --> 02:16:14,560
Speaker 1: in a broken collar bone. Uh, he's playing at a

2773
02:16:14,640 --> 02:16:18,240
Speaker 1: high level. He's great athlete. Uh, he's still throws it

2774
02:16:18,320 --> 02:16:20,800
Speaker 1: as well as anybody. Yeah. I think Aaron Rodgers is

2775
02:16:20,840 --> 02:16:22,560
Speaker 1: going to be around at least until he's forty. And

2776
02:16:22,600 --> 02:16:25,400
Speaker 1: I think if Tom Brady keeps going when they get there,

2777
02:16:25,440 --> 02:16:27,520
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers are gonna have a hard time saying goodbye too.

2778
02:16:27,680 --> 02:16:29,440
Speaker 1: I think he may go past that. I think Aaron

2779
02:16:29,520 --> 02:16:32,520
Speaker 1: Rodgers wants to play until he's forty. But I mean

2780
02:16:32,680 --> 02:16:36,640
Speaker 1: that's um just look, just because Brady is doing it

2781
02:16:36,800 --> 02:16:39,520
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that it's normal. Steve, It's not normal. It's

2782
02:16:39,680 --> 02:16:42,280
Speaker 1: it's it's abnormal. I don't think he'll make it. Yeah,

2783
02:16:42,720 --> 02:16:45,960
Speaker 1: it's a pretty significant injury for Aaron Rodgers last year,

2784
02:16:46,040 --> 02:16:48,960
Speaker 1: miss a significant chunk of season. No, I think, No,

2785
02:16:49,240 --> 02:16:50,640
Speaker 1: it is not like that. I think it's hard to

2786
02:16:50,720 --> 02:16:53,320
Speaker 1: play past thirty five, and I think Aaron Rodgers will

2787
02:16:53,520 --> 02:16:55,360
Speaker 1: face up to that eventually. Would he like to play,

2788
02:16:55,520 --> 02:16:57,560
Speaker 1: of course he would. Will he make it to age forty.

2789
02:16:58,200 --> 02:17:00,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. I doubt it. I doubt that he

2790
02:17:00,800 --> 02:17:04,600
Speaker 1: will Okay, Part two, NFL you don't want to argue. No, No,

2791
02:17:04,760 --> 02:17:06,440
Speaker 1: I mean I get you, you're right. I mean, there's

2792
02:17:06,440 --> 02:17:07,920
Speaker 1: a lot of things that happened happening. He's you know,

2793
02:17:08,320 --> 02:17:10,000
Speaker 1: you want to change hers to false. No. I think

2794
02:17:10,000 --> 02:17:13,640
Speaker 1: he's gonna make it. I think you're wrong. That's what

2795
02:17:13,720 --> 02:17:15,920
Speaker 1: we're looking for. You don't know. I don't know. You

2796
02:17:16,000 --> 02:17:18,840
Speaker 1: don't know. Look, argue with me. That's why you're here.

2797
02:17:18,920 --> 02:17:23,720
Speaker 1: I know, I know you're wrong. Man, He's yeah, he's

2798
02:17:23,720 --> 02:17:26,560
Speaker 1: not gonna go anywhere now. They I think if he

2799
02:17:26,680 --> 02:17:28,760
Speaker 1: doesn't play for the Packers until he's forties, because they

2800
02:17:28,800 --> 02:17:30,480
Speaker 1: trade him like they did Brett Farve, they'll have an

2801
02:17:30,520 --> 02:17:35,120
Speaker 1: option to go to m NFL two or false. Part two,

2802
02:17:35,400 --> 02:17:39,440
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham will lead the league in touchdowns this year.

2803
02:17:39,959 --> 02:17:42,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm gonna say false. I don't think

2804
02:17:42,840 --> 02:17:46,880
Speaker 1: that's likely. Another guy coming up, you know, pretty significant injury,

2805
02:17:46,959 --> 02:17:49,160
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of a slow start for Odell Beckham.

2806
02:17:49,200 --> 02:17:51,200
Speaker 1: I think they're look, he might not even lead the

2807
02:17:51,280 --> 02:17:54,560
Speaker 1: Giants in touchdowns, right Sequan Berkley could lead the Giants

2808
02:17:54,640 --> 02:17:57,600
Speaker 1: in touchdowns. I'm gonna say no, I say false, Come on, disagree,

2809
02:17:57,680 --> 02:17:59,280
Speaker 1: Yeah I will. I think he said yeah. He's got

2810
02:17:59,360 --> 02:18:01,000
Speaker 1: to be in the conversation. They're gonna this is a

2811
02:18:01,200 --> 02:18:03,120
Speaker 1: team that is gonna try and bounce back in a

2812
02:18:03,200 --> 02:18:06,120
Speaker 1: big way. Uh say, Quon Barkley is gonna make it

2813
02:18:06,280 --> 02:18:09,480
Speaker 1: so that the Giants can take some shots down the field.

2814
02:18:09,520 --> 02:18:12,320
Speaker 1: Forget it and whatever your analytics sake. Saquon Barkley is

2815
02:18:12,360 --> 02:18:15,200
Speaker 1: going to carry the ball a lot, but Eli Manning

2816
02:18:15,320 --> 02:18:17,680
Speaker 1: is gonna throw it. And I think the Giants are

2817
02:18:17,680 --> 02:18:19,640
Speaker 1: going to be an improved football team this year. And

2818
02:18:19,720 --> 02:18:21,959
Speaker 1: there's one guy that's the centerpiece of their throwing game,

2819
02:18:22,000 --> 02:18:25,560
Speaker 1: and that's Odell Beckham. And he wants the ball, he

2820
02:18:25,720 --> 02:18:28,680
Speaker 1: gets it. They give him a lot of opportunities, and

2821
02:18:29,000 --> 02:18:30,800
Speaker 1: there's a chance he could do that and lead the

2822
02:18:30,920 --> 02:18:33,480
Speaker 1: NFL in touchdowns. Is a throwing league. I think running

2823
02:18:33,520 --> 02:18:36,320
Speaker 1: I think wide receivers are as good a bet these

2824
02:18:36,400 --> 02:18:39,000
Speaker 1: days to lead the league in touchdowns as running backs

2825
02:18:39,000 --> 02:18:41,000
Speaker 1: are used to be in the past. Steve says true,

2826
02:18:41,000 --> 02:18:44,800
Speaker 1: I say false. Now, finally the Bears hot pick. Everybody

2827
02:18:44,879 --> 02:18:47,359
Speaker 1: likes him. The Bears will make the playoffs in twenty eighteen.

2828
02:18:48,200 --> 02:18:52,280
Speaker 1: You know, earlier guests for US Warren Sharp today talked

2829
02:18:52,320 --> 02:18:53,760
Speaker 1: a lot about the Bears. How much here is the

2830
02:18:53,800 --> 02:18:56,440
Speaker 1: like there. There's a post up on NFL dot com.

2831
02:18:56,600 --> 02:18:58,760
Speaker 1: Five reasons why the Bears will make the playoffs. The

2832
02:18:58,879 --> 02:19:02,600
Speaker 1: coaching change, many people like the real quarterback, many people

2833
02:19:02,680 --> 02:19:05,320
Speaker 1: like Yohm, it's true Bisky in a second year. There

2834
02:19:05,360 --> 02:19:07,120
Speaker 1: are other reasons the Bears will make the playoffs in

2835
02:19:07,160 --> 02:19:09,760
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. True falls, Can I go first? I'll say

2836
02:19:09,800 --> 02:19:12,320
Speaker 1: false again? Why because the Packers are going to be better,

2837
02:19:12,360 --> 02:19:14,800
Speaker 1: because the Vikings are gonna be good again. Because there's

2838
02:19:14,800 --> 02:19:17,480
Speaker 1: too much competition in the NFC. I would bet against

2839
02:19:17,520 --> 02:19:19,760
Speaker 1: the Bears making the playoffs in twenty eighteen. I have

2840
02:19:19,879 --> 02:19:22,760
Speaker 1: to say that as well. It's too tough a division

2841
02:19:22,840 --> 02:19:26,760
Speaker 1: to come in with a second year, second year quarterback,

2842
02:19:27,000 --> 02:19:29,560
Speaker 1: first year head coach and come in and win that

2843
02:19:29,720 --> 02:19:33,760
Speaker 1: division with Mike McCarthy sitting up there with and I

2844
02:19:33,800 --> 02:19:39,200
Speaker 1: can't remember the Minnesota Vikings head coach name, Mike. I

2845
02:19:39,240 --> 02:19:41,680
Speaker 1: can't remember the head coach of the Vikings. Oh my gosh,

2846
02:19:42,240 --> 02:19:45,160
Speaker 1: I can see him, Zimmer, Mike Zimmer. Those two head

2847
02:19:45,200 --> 02:19:47,879
Speaker 1: coaches experienced got great programs. They're well on their way.

2848
02:19:48,200 --> 02:19:50,680
Speaker 1: It's gonna be too hard to break into that group

2849
02:19:50,760 --> 02:19:53,000
Speaker 1: for the Bears this year, although there's no doubt they're

2850
02:19:53,000 --> 02:19:54,240
Speaker 1: going to be better than they wor a year ago.

2851
02:19:54,280 --> 02:19:57,040
Speaker 1: But I say false, people say false NFL true or false.

2852
02:19:57,080 --> 02:20:00,120
Speaker 1: Brought to you by Yancey's Fancy New York's artist and

2853
02:20:00,160 --> 02:20:02,280
Speaker 1: gee Steve and I backed with more One Bills Live

2854
02:20:02,400 --> 02:20:05,400
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo Bills Radio

2855
02:20:20,560 --> 02:20:22,720
Speaker 1: time to wrap things up already, believe that what have

2856
02:20:22,840 --> 02:20:25,560
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Speaker 1: provider with Buffalo Bills. Warren Sharp joined us. He is

2860
02:20:33,720 --> 02:20:38,640
Speaker 1: one of the pre eminent NFL analytics guys. He's written

2861
02:20:38,680 --> 02:20:41,520
Speaker 1: The twenty eighteen Football Preview Warren Sharp. We talked to

2862
02:20:41,600 --> 02:20:43,640
Speaker 1: him about an awful lot, including his book, The twenty

2863
02:20:43,680 --> 02:20:46,600
Speaker 1: eighteen Football Preview. Here's what Warren Sharpe said about the

2864
02:20:46,920 --> 02:20:50,840
Speaker 1: book and how it should be used. I try to

2865
02:20:50,879 --> 02:20:54,840
Speaker 1: write this book for just NFL fans in general and

2866
02:20:55,080 --> 02:20:58,520
Speaker 1: for the teams in general, to understand what these teams

2867
02:20:58,600 --> 02:21:00,800
Speaker 1: are and how they're built, what they were going to

2868
02:21:00,879 --> 02:21:03,920
Speaker 1: look like this season, why they performed poorly or well

2869
02:21:04,040 --> 02:21:05,840
Speaker 1: last year, and then what I think they're going to

2870
02:21:05,959 --> 02:21:09,560
Speaker 1: do this year. I actually then then people can take

2871
02:21:09,680 --> 02:21:11,840
Speaker 1: that and use it for fantasy, and they can take

2872
02:21:11,920 --> 02:21:14,120
Speaker 1: that and use it for betting. But the goal is

2873
02:21:14,240 --> 02:21:17,320
Speaker 1: just to get a better handling grasp on these teams.

2874
02:21:17,680 --> 02:21:19,720
Speaker 1: And my hope is that when people read through this

2875
02:21:19,840 --> 02:21:21,680
Speaker 1: book and maybe look at their favorite team, look at

2876
02:21:21,720 --> 02:21:24,000
Speaker 1: teams in their division, study some of the things at

2877
02:21:24,040 --> 02:21:26,240
Speaker 1: the front, and then look overall the course of the NFL,

2878
02:21:26,600 --> 02:21:29,280
Speaker 1: you can get a better understanding of the sport of

2879
02:21:29,320 --> 02:21:32,520
Speaker 1: football in general. Goody, good buck a lot in there.

2880
02:21:32,680 --> 02:21:34,760
Speaker 1: There's a lot of stuff to look at in that book.

2881
02:21:35,040 --> 02:21:39,000
Speaker 1: The twenty eighteen Football Preview by Warren Sharp. Also today

2882
02:21:39,080 --> 02:21:41,320
Speaker 1: on the show, we had Andy Benoit just a little

2883
02:21:41,320 --> 02:21:45,279
Speaker 1: bit ago from MMQB and Sports Illustrated dot Com. Andy

2884
02:21:45,400 --> 02:21:47,800
Speaker 1: just wrote an interesting post about a week ago on

2885
02:21:48,160 --> 02:21:52,120
Speaker 1: MMQB about the differences between college football and NFL football

2886
02:21:52,160 --> 02:21:54,280
Speaker 1: and why he thinks NFL football is better. Here's what

2887
02:21:54,400 --> 02:21:58,360
Speaker 1: he said. It's a totally different game for that and

2888
02:21:58,440 --> 02:22:00,960
Speaker 1: that's the main reason, and call leg those hash marks

2889
02:22:00,959 --> 02:22:03,440
Speaker 1: are forty feet apart from each other, so when you

2890
02:22:03,520 --> 02:22:06,480
Speaker 1: spot the ball on one hash mark, it's very heavily

2891
02:22:06,600 --> 02:22:09,040
Speaker 1: tilted to one side of the field. So now you

2892
02:22:09,160 --> 02:22:11,160
Speaker 1: have a short side of the field and a very

2893
02:22:11,240 --> 02:22:14,160
Speaker 1: wide side of the fields. And that changes the way

2894
02:22:14,280 --> 02:22:17,840
Speaker 1: offensive scheme information. And what it really does is change

2895
02:22:17,879 --> 02:22:21,000
Speaker 1: the way the defense covers, because remember those sidelines are

2896
02:22:21,080 --> 02:22:25,640
Speaker 1: essentially extra defenders. Spread offensive quarterbacks don't always transfer well

2897
02:22:25,680 --> 02:22:28,280
Speaker 1: to the NFL, and everybody wonders why. Part of the

2898
02:22:28,400 --> 02:22:31,560
Speaker 1: reason pocket passing is king in the NFL because if

2899
02:22:31,600 --> 02:22:34,840
Speaker 1: you think about their hash mark, where they're eighteen feet apart,

2900
02:22:34,920 --> 02:22:37,600
Speaker 1: they're tight. The ball is always aligned almost near the

2901
02:22:37,680 --> 02:22:40,240
Speaker 1: middle of the field. So if they balanced field, and

2902
02:22:40,320 --> 02:22:44,960
Speaker 1: everything happens a little bit quicker, Andy MINNOI take us

2903
02:22:44,959 --> 02:22:48,280
Speaker 1: back young Steve Tasker thirty some years ago making a

2904
02:22:48,360 --> 02:22:51,640
Speaker 1: transition from playing college football at Northwestern to the Houston

2905
02:22:51,720 --> 02:22:53,600
Speaker 1: Oilers or Buffalo Bills. Did you look at the field

2906
02:22:53,640 --> 02:22:55,000
Speaker 1: and say, well, this is a different look at these

2907
02:22:55,040 --> 02:22:58,040
Speaker 1: hash marks. You know what was the difference was? For me,

2908
02:22:58,080 --> 02:22:59,680
Speaker 1: it wasn't the hash mark, It was the numbers. The

2909
02:22:59,760 --> 02:23:02,480
Speaker 1: number are also different. The numbers in the pro game

2910
02:23:02,520 --> 02:23:05,640
Speaker 1: are further apart, further from the sideline. They're twelve yards

2911
02:23:05,680 --> 02:23:07,280
Speaker 1: from the sideline at the bottom of the numbers. They're

2912
02:23:07,280 --> 02:23:09,040
Speaker 1: fourteen yards from the top of the numbers. And then

2913
02:23:09,760 --> 02:23:12,400
Speaker 1: so those are your landmarks when you're running routes, when

2914
02:23:12,400 --> 02:23:14,400
Speaker 1: you're lining from the from the field and stuff, and

2915
02:23:14,480 --> 02:23:16,840
Speaker 1: so you had to learn the differences between the two.

2916
02:23:16,920 --> 02:23:18,720
Speaker 1: Even now, when you get these games once in a

2917
02:23:18,760 --> 02:23:20,680
Speaker 1: while where a college team will be playing on a

2918
02:23:20,760 --> 02:23:24,120
Speaker 1: pro team or a pro field or vice versa, they'll

2919
02:23:24,200 --> 02:23:26,640
Speaker 1: have hash marks where the pro numbers are so that

2920
02:23:26,720 --> 02:23:28,640
Speaker 1: you know it, or vice versa, they'll have them way

2921
02:23:28,640 --> 02:23:32,120
Speaker 1: out wide where the college numbers are. And it was

2922
02:23:32,840 --> 02:23:34,320
Speaker 1: we used to go out and practice a couple of

2923
02:23:34,360 --> 02:23:36,640
Speaker 1: times in different situations in the preseason or whatever. We'd

2924
02:23:36,640 --> 02:23:38,240
Speaker 1: beat a college field and it'd be like it was like,

2925
02:23:39,280 --> 02:23:42,200
Speaker 1: wait a minute, this is a way different. That's when

2926
02:23:42,240 --> 02:23:44,760
Speaker 1: I noticed it was in alignment, because those are all

2927
02:23:44,800 --> 02:23:47,480
Speaker 1: your landmarks. Yeah, hey, we got another show coming up tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Looking forward to see yeah very much. I want to

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Speaker 1: thank our production assistant George Blast, Jeff Coltennick Thomas Omolder,

2930
02:23:52,959 --> 02:23:56,720
Speaker 1: JJ Turto, Kevin Kargis, James Roebol our producer Jay Harris.

2931
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Speaker 1: We're back tomorrow, twelve noon with One Bill's Life Present,

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Speaker 1: a bike, a lot of health from One Bill's Drive.

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