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Speaker 1: All right, let's take one step closer to Sunday with

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Speaker 1: a new addition of between the Horns presented by your

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Speaker 1: Southern California Toyo to dealers.

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Speaker 2: I'm JB.

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Speaker 1: Long with the Marco Farr and a newly minted Hall

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Speaker 1: of Famer Maurice Jones Drew Dayla sal finally put you

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Speaker 1: in the Hall follow No, I was.

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Speaker 3: In the Hall of Fame as a player. This is

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Speaker 3: to be like Alumni of the Year.

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Speaker 2: In the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is to go in for donating time and

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Speaker 3: energy and money.

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Speaker 1: Question how many tuitions do you have to pay and

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Speaker 1: how many games you have to coach before?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't know. It's a It's awesome though, just

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Speaker 3: because uh, I was able to, Like, we did a

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Speaker 3: big project this year starting a youth program there that

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Speaker 3: kind of was a lot. It took a lot of work.

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Speaker 3: Didn't need to be as hard, but we figured it out.

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Speaker 3: And so I appreciate the school for all that.

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Speaker 1: That explains it, but it also steals some of our

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Speaker 1: thunder because how do you get into the California Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame and the UCLA Hall of Fame and.

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Speaker 3: Not in that us out I'm not gonna lie. They

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Speaker 3: they're they're up there with top guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's not.

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Speaker 3: Let's not. They got fame. How many years ago I

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Speaker 3: missed a game for I forget man, you gotta was

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Speaker 3: it was a game like it was probably like four

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Speaker 2: Ye big by us.

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Speaker 1: I promise we're not stalling to like avoid talking about

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Speaker 1: the loss of Philadelphia and we can dive right in

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Speaker 1: wherever you guys want. Uh, four days removes? Has the

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Speaker 1: sting gone away?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah? Nine hurts his bat maybe worse?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's it's the things that haunted

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Speaker 3: us last year. I felt like came back and not

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Speaker 3: talking about this is without the block field goals, not

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Speaker 3: scoring in the red zone, right, the the no non

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Speaker 3: touchdowns in the red zone. That's that's why you have

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Speaker 3: to score, right And we we talked about that in

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Speaker 3: the broadcast, that putting the ball in the paint is

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Speaker 3: going to be more important than anything against them because

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Speaker 3: they have the ability to score quickly and you want

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Speaker 3: to get them out of their game plan. And you

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Speaker 3: did that coming out of half, but before half, kicking

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Speaker 3: those field goals even though they were awesome. It was

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Speaker 3: good for them. Yeah, those were small wins for the Eagles,

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Speaker 3: and and it really kept the game a lot closer

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Speaker 3: than what it should have been.

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Speaker 2: It kept them a lot you know. Okay, so you

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Speaker 2: go in with a lot of questions and I thought

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Speaker 2: you answered a lot of them, but it really was

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Speaker 2: it was a devastating way to lose a football game.

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Speaker 2: I was telling JB earlier that double thudd boom, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that is the worst sound in sports, right, It's just

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Speaker 2: it's it's just deflating. So but when you go in

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Speaker 2: with questions, you come out with answers. I think you

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Speaker 2: answered a lot of questions. You took it to Saquon,

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Speaker 2: you got to Jalen Hurts, Jared Verse, squared him up

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Speaker 2: a few times. The Blitzes were getting home, you had

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Speaker 2: you let them come back. I think the only thing

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Speaker 2: moving on from it. Yeah, it's it's over.

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Speaker 3: It happened.

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Speaker 2: You move on. You have to play Indy this week.

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Speaker 2: You can't let the Eagles beat you twice, no question.

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Speaker 2: It's a tough way to lose, but it is what

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Speaker 2: it is. This is the pros. Lick your wounds, get

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Speaker 2: ready for this week, and try to beat the Colts.

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Speaker 3: That's the best part of not being a player anymore

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Speaker 3: certain situations where I don't think the Rams were at

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Speaker 3: best in those. But other than that, I think you're right, DeMarco.

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Speaker 3: You you you learn from this, right, You take the good,

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Speaker 2: Forward a lot of good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one play before that, you loved the shot they took.

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Speaker 1: I think you called for it. I remember correctly, right territory.

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Speaker 3: Give it to me. You want to know why, because

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Speaker 3: when you're in that situation, you take the shot because

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Speaker 1: And you got the matchup that you scored the touchdown

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Speaker 1: asking DeMarco earlier today, like with this coach and this quarterback,

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Speaker 1: but really anytime on Sunday, those are the moments that

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Speaker 1: But I was thinking from Philly standpoint, they could easily

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Speaker 3: And that's kind of what it is. I I when

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Speaker 3: move forward it, but when you have the play, we're lingering.

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Speaker 3: So listen, when I put in the week going the meetings.

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Speaker 3: We were like, this is what we're going to get

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Speaker 1: But DeMarco's case is game time and score says.

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Speaker 2: Clock is my thing. Yea off twice we're running.

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Speaker 1: The chances are you're going to move the chains, and

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Speaker 2: I understand the ball. We're doing great. We're knocking them

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Speaker 3: You know what's funny. I agree with you, But I

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Speaker 1: There's the callback to running out the clock against Houston,

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Speaker 3: And so if that's gonna be your mindset when we're

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Speaker 3: in the same as similar situation against Philly.

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Speaker 2: At Philly, you go for the dagger and it was there.

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Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, It's not that he had the

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Speaker 2: wrong play call. We're just talking about philosophy. If Stafford

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Speaker 1: Or if they drop the flag on the tug on

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Speaker 1: the release. Yes, you know, there's a lot of good

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Speaker 2: That's the thing.

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Speaker 3: But that's okay. I'm not upset with if we're gonna

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Speaker 3: lose being aggressive, we're gonna lose being who we are.

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Speaker 3: If that's what you're tell me. If we're gonna be aggressive, right,

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Speaker 3: then let's be aggressive. And if we lose, hey, we'll

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Speaker 3: learn from it. We'll figure it out, we'll get going.

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Speaker 3: I think also there's a little bit of timing that's

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Speaker 1: Lowest catch rate of his career, just to color that in, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all his years, he's never caught this lower percentage of

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Speaker 3: But think about it. The out that normally is a handoff, right,

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Speaker 3: that we've seen Stafford throw that wasn't there. The shot

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Speaker 1: That we've said on slam the airmail, those are.

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Speaker 3: Those are plays that we've seen Matthew Stafford make. We've

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Speaker 3: also seen him make it with less lesser receivers, right.

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Speaker 3: But it's about the timing and that's only gonna get

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Speaker 3: I just know that that was a mid loss opportunity.

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Speaker 2: That's why when you said, like, does it linger, No,

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Speaker 2: because all that stuff is fixable, and I think it

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Speaker 2: something that you can't overcome. You're not you're not overmatched.

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Speaker 2: It's just you're missing. Eventually you won't on field. No,

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Speaker 2: I don't think it lingers. I agree with what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: Big picture, it lingers a lot Like what stings most

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Speaker 2: maybe the chance to compete for a one seed. Worse,

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Speaker 2: heaven forbid, even a playoff spot. So that's the part

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Speaker 2: that's tough to reconcile. Man, you had that, And yes,

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Speaker 2: a lot of it. But man, I emphysize with fans

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think again you said it best like that

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Speaker 3: in the playoffs. Right, we've already went there, but we could.

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Speaker 1: If you earn that could You know the other thing,

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Speaker 1: and I told DeMarco this this morning is my biggest

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Speaker 1: concern might be that they got the best out of Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: that whatever was bogging the Eagles down, the Rams forced

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Speaker 1: now they're not a team that's gonna wait for the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think the Rams. I think if a

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Speaker 3: Kell Witherspoon's there, it's a different it's for a different outlook.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying specific to that matchup. I'm saying I

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Speaker 1: can't wait to see what Philly does in Tampa Bay

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Speaker 1: this week, because Tampa Bay has had their numbers play

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Speaker 1: Let me go back to the DeVante thing. I have

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody stopped.

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Speaker 1: He's the most open receiver in the National Football League

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Speaker 2: If you hit some of those passes, if you hit

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Speaker 2: You don't have to convince him that he needs to

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Speaker 3: I will tell you I don't think I don't think

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Speaker 3: we saw. I thought. Another thing I'll say is this

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Speaker 3: Van Kooper Dejane. Pooka owned him. It wasn't even close.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if you say that, like, I'll

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Speaker 3: That's right. So now you're playing the Colts and we'll

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Speaker 3: again I see it as not a loss to Linger.

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Speaker 3: going back to. Right, Okay, do we learn from this

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Speaker 1: It hurts me to say, but you got out played

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Speaker 2: But I would say this, like for out playing Stafford,

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Speaker 1: How's that last year's sack leader feeling right now? I

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's ever happened to you, because

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Speaker 3: That was my second year. I scored seventeen touchhounds as

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Speaker 2: Like, yes, why?

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Speaker 3: Why me? What did I do? I got on my knees.

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Speaker 1: It's just nothing against Puna Ford. But when Ford gets

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Speaker 2: Tackle, it's one before fist. Yes, but you have to

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Speaker 3: When you're the sack leader, what does everyone say, we're

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll come, and when it does, and a bunch

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Speaker 1: You know, this game from Indianapolis reminds me a little

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Speaker 1: Off to an undefeated start. I think people are believing

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Speaker 2: Yeah danks for anthro punter.

436
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Speaker 3: Sure well, well yeah, I think once.

437
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Speaker 2: I mean they're holder that guy.

438
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'll tell you this. I think they made

439
00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:59,359
Speaker 3: a decision to go with the safest bet in Daniel Jones.

440
00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,600
Speaker 3: It's not the the highest selling, but it's the safest bet.

441
00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,359
Speaker 3: He's not gonna turn the ball over. He has the

442
00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,600
Speaker 3: ability to run a little bit. He's faster than what

443
00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,480
Speaker 3: you people give him credit for. But he doesn't make mistakes.

444
00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:15,359
Speaker 3: And the biggest thing about him is they're running the football.

445
00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,280
Speaker 3: It has nothing. They are running the football so well

446
00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,240
Speaker 3: right now that it's like he can play action passing

447
00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:23,720
Speaker 3: guys can be wide open. They have a tight end

448
00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,600
Speaker 3: that runs over routes. Right, it's not like it's not

449
00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,000
Speaker 3: like he's just out here, just out of shotgun, three steps,

450
00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,320
Speaker 3: five steps, just picking people apart. No, they're running the football,

451
00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,000
Speaker 3: their play action pass will take shots here and there.

452
00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,119
Speaker 3: Like you said on third down, if you run past me,

453
00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,639
Speaker 3: I'll take off and run right. I'll just do the

454
00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,919
Speaker 3: right things. And that is complimentary football at his best. Right.

455
00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,000
Speaker 3: And then defensively, they're gonna sit in their coverage. They're

456
00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,879
Speaker 3: gonna give some pressure. It's not nothing crazy, it's not

457
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Speaker 3: like anything that's out of the like, oh my god,

458
00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:55,760
Speaker 3: you know, even though Theforest Buckner's there and he's doing

459
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Speaker 3: an awesome job, get rid.

460
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Speaker 2: Of that good.

461
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, they got God, they got guys, but

462
00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,679
Speaker 3: it's not like it's not like last week. Though they

463
00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,960
Speaker 3: don't got two dudes in the middle that can, right,

464
00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,040
Speaker 3: but it's different. But it's just not last week, and

465
00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:11,960
Speaker 3: they have guys, and so off defensively, all start, don't

466
00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,960
Speaker 3: rush past the quarterback forcing to throw in the tight windows.

467
00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,480
Speaker 3: You're not a J. Brown's not on this roster, right,

468
00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,560
Speaker 3: so you have some you have some leeway there. They

469
00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,119
Speaker 3: have some I think Pierce has heard he's in the

470
00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,359
Speaker 3: concussion port product. That's their deep threat. Right, So you Pittman,

471
00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,239
Speaker 3: you got to kind of keep eyes on him, right,

472
00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:30,080
Speaker 3: bigger guy, and then stop the run like you did

473
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Speaker 3: last week.

474
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Speaker 2: What do you think of Taylor? I think Jonathan Taylor.

475
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Speaker 3: Is so people people. When I when he came out,

476
00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,560
Speaker 3: I had him as my sixth best running back. And

477
00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,560
Speaker 3: it's because he went to Wisconsin. No disrespect, no disrespect,

478
00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,239
Speaker 3: Totally understand what you mean.

479
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Speaker 1: He's a product of that factory more than like a differentiator.

480
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Speaker 3: Yes, for sure. They I mean Melvin Gordon, Monty Ball,

481
00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:56,359
Speaker 3: all these dudes. Yeah, this is what uh Ron day like.

482
00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,080
Speaker 3: These guys come out and then they don't necessarily perform

483
00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,879
Speaker 3: it at the highest level in the NFL. But he

484
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,159
Speaker 3: went to a system that had offensive linemen that fit him,

485
00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,520
Speaker 3: and they revamped and rebuilt this offensive line to fit

486
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,800
Speaker 3: what he does. Well, that's why you're seeing them be embarrassed.

487
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Speaker 1: Maybe the most underrated part of their start so far.

488
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,119
Speaker 1: Their offensive line is played great, not just paving the

489
00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,040
Speaker 1: way for JT, but also like to actually one of

490
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,600
Speaker 1: the least sacks, and part of that is Daniel Jones mobility.

491
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Speaker 1: Part of it is his scheme that you talked about.

492
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Speaker 3: He gets the ball out quick It's not like like

493
00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:27,359
Speaker 3: when you're playing who's the Well's. He came from Philly, right,

494
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,719
Speaker 3: he's one of Phillies guys. So it's the same offense.

495
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,080
Speaker 3: The quarterback they had that they draft. That just slipped

496
00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,760
Speaker 3: my mind again, Richard Richardson. Yeah, he holds onto the

497
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Speaker 3: ball right, So that's why he was getting hit the

498
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Speaker 3: back of the head all the time. I remember we

499
00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:39,920
Speaker 3: went there a couple of years ago to play me.

500
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,200
Speaker 3: He was Aaron Donalds hanging on his back and he's strong,

501
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,200
Speaker 3: but he holds onto the ball. Daniel Jones gets the

502
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 3: ball out quickly. So there's that offensively, I I I

503
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,840
Speaker 3: believe that you have advantage in the passing game and

504
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,480
Speaker 3: as a slot. I think if you could run the

505
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,920
Speaker 3: ball and be bounced like you were, you'll be a

506
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 3: run in Philly. Yeah, I think you'll, you'll you'll have

507
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 3: you have those those are your advantages, and so to me,

508
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 3: Stafford has to be on right, but you're gonna have

509
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 3: chances in this game to take shots.

510
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Speaker 1: I love Stafford coming off that week. I mean that's

511
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 1: his bounce backs are are pretty strong. I do think

512
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 1: lou An Rumo was a big pickup, big thing for

513
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 1: a roster that was almost complete. You talk about getting

514
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Speaker 1: the quarterback right as a cast off that other people

515
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Speaker 1: didn't want, you know, and Remo I don't think did

516
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,360
Speaker 1: anything wrong in Cincinnati other than not having the personnel,

517
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Speaker 1: not having the investments and the resources on that side

518
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,160
Speaker 1: of the football. But he's had some good success against

519
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Speaker 1: the Rams and specifically against Stafford.

520
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Speaker 2: Hey, he's tricky, he's a smart guy, and he's gonna

521
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 2: be dialed in on what they want to do. But

522
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Speaker 2: you know, you have every confidence in the world and

523
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 2: Sean McVay to come up with a great plan. It's

524
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 2: so funny how he picks and chooses who he wants

525
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 2: to play football against that day. It could be your

526
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:49,920
Speaker 2: your tackle, it could be your defensive end, it could

527
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Speaker 2: be that safety down there. You never know who he's

528
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,360
Speaker 2: picking on. So I just remember that one time where

529
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:55,879
Speaker 2: he was screaming out of safety in New York. If

530
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Speaker 2: you're gonna play cover three, you better be honest or

531
00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna come after you every time, you know what

532
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 2: I mean. That's that sort of stuff. So do you

533
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 2: have the ability to disguise and fuol Matthew Stafford. We're

534
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 2: gonna find out. I think it all comes down to

535
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 2: definitely their their accuracy and his accuracy there. If he's on,

536
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 2: like you said, coming off a bad week, you're gonna

537
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 2: complete balls. You're gonna give Indye all they can handle

538
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 2: as far as offensively. Now, if you bring that same

539
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 2: sort of nasty that the defense brought to Philadelphia, if

540
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 2: you bring that home to Sofi where you've got benefit

541
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Speaker 2: of crowd noise, and this is a surface you like,

542
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 2: even though we love I like their offensive line, you

543
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 2: should dominate and decimate them. You just did when you

544
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 2: had zero advantages. It's on grass, that's their surface, with

545
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 2: their crowd, and you absolutely took after him. You got

546
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,159
Speaker 2: after him. If you can do the same thing here,

547
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 2: bring the same mentality back to Sofi with your people

548
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 2: on your surface, you should dominate them. If you take

549
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,119
Speaker 2: care of Jonathan Taylor like you took care of Saquon Barkley,

550
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 2: you should dominate Daniel Jones. He may throw it to

551
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 2: you right, absolutely may. He may revert back to that

552
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 2: old New York just is still in there. That's what

553
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Get pressure make him feel like he's unsafe.

554
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 2: And I'm sure, look, you saw the hits Jalen Hurts took,

555
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,360
Speaker 2: Oh my god, the one right to the face from

556
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Speaker 2: Jared Verse. You don't think he's thinking about that, oh.

557
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 3: Dude or McCullough. Absolutely like those are Like I said,

558
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 3: those are big time hits. That again, Hurts didn't even

559
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 3: see those guys coming boom that anyone trust?

560
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

561
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, to me, I agree with you defensively. I feel

562
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 3: I'm I feel comfortable in every game that we go in.

563
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 3: If I look down the roster, down their schedule, I look,

564
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 3: I feel comfortable.

565
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Speaker 1: About that pass rush. Now you know that you can

566
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Speaker 1: break a game with four guys on any Sunday.

567
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Speaker 3: Any four too, you decide, Josiah Stewart can come in

568
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 3: and give it gets you some some work too, right.

569
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Speaker 1: Of eight guys, But I agree with you though you

570
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 1: you better make sure you're able to get there and

571
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Speaker 1: ideally with four this weekend because I think their weapons

572
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 1: are underrated. Yeah, and who contends with Warren? It's gonna

573
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Speaker 1: have to be Quinn Lake good because he's out of control.

574
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Speaker 3: Rights that to me, who you're gonna like? I know,

575
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 3: downs is a slot guy and all, like Quentin Lake,

576
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Speaker 3: you're covering Warren this week if I'm the if, if

577
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 3: it's I'm thinking defensively.

578
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a busy day because he's everywhere.

579
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Speaker 3: And guess what, Guess where you'll be if he goes

580
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 3: to the bathroom, hand him play the paper, right, like,

581
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 3: you gotta be with him. That's just how it is,

582
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 3: like that you have to cover that cat. We can't

583
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 3: let that get I'm just saying that's how. That's where

584
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 3: you have to be. If he goes outside, you're outside.

585
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,959
Speaker 3: If he's inside, you have to be there to make

586
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 3: sure because that is his that's his teddy bear, right,

587
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 3: That's that's Daniel Jones safe's place that if he gets

588
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 3: in trouble, he's gonna find Warren and get him the

589
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 3: ball as quickly as possible. And Warren's playing lights out

590
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 3: right Now.

591
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 1: Should we talk about our tight end situation real quick?

592
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Speaker 1: Because I know people are a little shocked, maybe that

593
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 1: Tifford was a healthy scratch. I know I was surprised.

594
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Speaker 2: I could not believe he was in street clothes. That shocked.

595
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Speaker 1: But when you saw the way the Rams played that

596
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Speaker 1: game and the role that the tight ends had in

597
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Speaker 1: that game and really have for the first month of

598
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Speaker 1: the season. Does that check out?

599
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 3: Now?

600
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Speaker 2: It does, but it still begs the question as to

601
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Speaker 2: why this is why you drafted him, this is what

602
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 2: you're gonna do, and he's not playing today. So you

603
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 2: have to ask why is it because he can't be

604
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 2: at out the three guys in front of him? Is

605
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 2: it because you're facing Philly you have a different game plan,

606
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 2: or is he not up to speed with the offense.

607
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 2: Why isn't he out there, especially when you look at

608
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 2: Indy and they have a rookie tight end that's killing it,

609
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Right, So you start to

610
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 2: just wonder why. It's not the end of the world,

611
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 2: but you still want to know this.

612
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 3: Is true. Right, that's a completely different I would say this,

613
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 3: I trust Sean, I trust his judgment, but that still

614
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 3: doesn't mean why he's not out there playing, right, He's

615
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 3: He's probably the best athlete you have at that position,

616
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 3: and he could help on special teams like I don't know,

617
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 3: maybe he could have ran down Jordan Davis and tackled him.

618
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 3: I have no idea, Like he was on punt he

619
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 3: ran down the guy from Tennessee right, like, let him

620
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 3: get in and and and get some type of game

621
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Speaker 3: reps in these situation though those are learning. I know

622
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Speaker 3: it may seem minute like oh he's he's on field

623
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Speaker 3: goal block, but that speed of that is going to

624
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 3: help him in the long run at tight end blocking

625
00:25:58,680 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 3: right or just doing something.

626
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 1: But if they went into Philly is saying how many

627
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 1: targets do you think our tight end room is going

628
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Speaker 1: to get today?

629
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Speaker 2: Five or fewer?

630
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 3: Yes?

631
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Speaker 1: What's what role are your tight ends going to play today?

632
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 1: When you get into twelve? What are you gonna do?

633
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: We're gonna jet sweeps it if they are extensions of

634
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: our offensive line. Okay, of your four tight ends, who's

635
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,919
Speaker 1: least equipped to play that game with him?

636
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 3: I get it.

637
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: I mean it ties back to what we said earlier

638
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:22,959
Speaker 1: in the show, which is the passing game right now

639
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: is built on your two superstars, and until someone takes

640
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: that away and makes you play left handed, why not

641
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 1: lean into that identity fully.

642
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 3: So it's funny because there was a somebody on Twitter

643
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 3: put out like the next pick after Ferguson was Will Johnson,

644
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 3: who's up in Carolina.

645
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 2: That's what you can call it.

646
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 3: Guy, But but but but Again, that's why the fans

647
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 3: are upset because that game is played. But it's very true, right,

648
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 3: Like you lost a corner, your corners got beat up

649
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 3: in the second half by A J. Brown. But this

650
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 3: kid's over in Carolina and Arizona playing well. Right, so

651
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 3: when you draft a guy and again I listen, I I,

652
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 3: like I said before, I understand it. But I also

653
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 3: understand from the fans standpoint, like we put we resources

654
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 3: into this tight end, he needs to be on the field. Yeah.

655
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: I think that's a different conversation allocation of resources where

656
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: the Rams quite honestly bet on themselves at offensive line,

657
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: in corner and in the first month of the season

658
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 1: you have key injuries at those positions, and right now,

659
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: that's a that's a questionable wager. There's still time to

660
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: pay that off and there's still time to use your

661
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: resources to get better at those positions, which I think,

662
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: if anything coming out of Philadelphia, maybe that's a data

663
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 1: point that you can work off of.

664
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 2: But you had a nineteen point lead without him, you

665
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:30,959
Speaker 2: just couldn't hold it, right.

666
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm good with T firsts long term future in

667
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 1: this offense. I just don't think the three games they

668
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: played so far, and especially the one they played last

669
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 1: week is a rookie tight end, big you know, move

670
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 1: tight end and your passing game type of structure, I

671
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: guess is what I'm saying.

672
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I think that mean said.

673
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 1: If you said, Sean you can't play any tight end.

674
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: But Terrence Ferguson, can you go make it work?

675
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 3: He can.

676
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 2: He can dial up a game plan that's gonna be

677
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 2: that's days coming.

678
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna come quickly because it's I think maybe

679
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 3: this week him in the slot versus a linebacker or

680
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 3: nickel corner, that smaller is going to be a great

681
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 3: advantage for you.

682
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: But you just talked about the slot matchup that you

683
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: loved last week.

684
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 3: I like this, but you have two slots. I know.

685
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,479
Speaker 2: I'm just said, you decide which one you want to cover.

686
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm moving.

687
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: I'm I think it's obviously all undertwined, and if you're

688
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: feeling better about your pass protection with your five starting

689
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: offensive linemen, maybe there's a little bit more latitude in

690
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: how you use your tight ends.

691
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 3: For sure.

692
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: Right now, I think their passing game has a lot

693
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 1: to do with making sure that Matthew has the time

694
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: to get it to twelve and seventeen and until someone

695
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: makes them do anything different or until the rams can

696
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: protect better, that's the way it's going to be.

697
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 2: We're avoiding field gold, block field goal, field goal, tix

698
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 2: it for us. Okay, well, what are we gonna see

699
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: different this week? You know it could be a personnel thing.

700
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 2: But you go back and watch Tennessee, you watch Philadelphia,

701
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 2: it seems like it's coming off one and you know what,

702
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 2: maybe you could tell me this, it's an offensive thing.

703
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 2: Whenever we practice field gold or pat you'd have the

704
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 2: offensive lines flop sides, so the right guys become the left,

705
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 2: the left become the right. Have you ever seen that?

706
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, like Havenstein is playing on the left.

707
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 3: Ye.

708
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 2: I never knew why they did that. Why you have

709
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 2: guys flop sides for whatever reason. But it seems to

710
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 2: be tradition. But that has to be something you have

711
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: to get fixed. I hope it's something you can fix

712
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 2: because it seems like there's two teams in a row

713
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 2: that have a beat on you. So that's one of

714
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 2: those things where you have to go and re examine

715
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 2: everything that you're doing. Personnel operation routine, the whole nine

716
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 2: somebody's got a beat on you. We would steal this

717
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 2: is a d line thing. We would steal the TV

718
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: copy of every game we played the Cadence. Yeah, there's

719
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 2: a beat somewhere. There's a tell you know.

720
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: Oh, so you're saying it's not just the blockers up front.

721
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: It might be the timing and the rhythm of the

722
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: snap operation, you know, like you steal third base off

723
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: a pitcher because he gets predicted.

724
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 2: Somebody's got a beat on you. Yeah, when you go

725
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 2: back and watch, and I fully believe, I swear I

726
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: can't prove this, but I believe this. If you had

727
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 2: changed up your routine just slightly, like had he called

728
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: for the ball and just waited a beat, they would

729
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 2: to jumped off sides.

730
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 3: Can I when is this going to be aired to

731
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 3: media night? Okay? I can't. I can't. I was gonna

732
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 3: tell you there because it's just because there's tails all

733
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 3: over the place. Right when you coach high school football,

734
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 3: everyone has tails. There's a team that Daylys was gonna

735
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 3: play and there's a tail in that game.

736
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 2: Right, keep yourself.

737
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'll tell you the tale before and we

738
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 3: were playing Folsome and this was this was a couple

739
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 3: of years ago. Uh, their quarterback. Every time his right

740
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,479
Speaker 3: leg was back it was a pass. Every time it's

741
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 3: left leg back was a run. So there's tails in

742
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,959
Speaker 3: everything that you can find. I would just say, pat

743
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 3: block is big men are hard to find. Their big

744
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 3: men don't grow on trees. And when you have two

745
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 3: of the biggest men over one guy, that's always tough, right,

746
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 3: and so you have to find a way to either.

747
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 3: I remember last year you had Bobby Brown, the third

748
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 3: was on there, right. You got to get your biggest,

749
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 3: strongest guys to be to sit in there and hold up.

750
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 3: And right now it's just they're just not holding out.

751
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 2: It's big and strong. It's hard to do. Yes, just period. Now,

752
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 2: imagine if they know when the ball's coming. It's impossible.

753
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 3: You're right because the ball I saw it again. He

754
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 3: was off that ball pretty quickly on the last one.

755
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 2: Yes, two in one game tells you a lot.

756
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: Yes, I know how I want to finish before I

757
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: do wrap this up. Any final thoughts so that I

758
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: don't get out of here before you No.

759
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 2: You know, Uh, well, the first question when we talked

760
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 2: about BTh this week was, you know, how do we

761
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 2: feel that the Rams stacked up versus Egle, that's very well,

762
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 2: that's a game you could have won. So there's a

763
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 2: lot to be encouraged by. There's some things you need

764
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 2: to work on. It is what it is. But after

765
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 2: three weeks when the schedule first came out, when the

766
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: schedule come out, you're a schedule guy.

767
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: You won the April draft, so maybe mid May.

768
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 2: And you saw how it stacked up and where and

769
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 2: if you said after the first three weeks, if you're

770
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 2: three and oh two and one, you you take that right?

771
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean you, yes, But it's because it

772
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: puts you on course to be four and one, are

773
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: at worst three and two after five when San Francisco

774
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: comes in, and that's where your margin has but not

775
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:53,959
Speaker 1: in this county.

776
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 3: But things have changed though a little bit. You know

777
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 3: why things change because they've played to a certain standard

778
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 3: and the expectation is different. And I think, after seeing

779
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 3: what happened with Philly is in my mind the standard

780
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 3: is we need to see that type of play, that

781
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 3: first half play right only getting back, But consider the last.

782
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: Two years how this team has started.

783
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: Totally agree, that's you know what I'm saying, And that's

784
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: where I know fans don't like to hear it, but

785
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: my sight level has been elevated despite the loss of Philadelphia.

786
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: Like I think, this team's floor it is higher and

787
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: its ceiling is definitely way up there now that I've

788
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: seen what they're capable of. But it's it's incumbent upon

789
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: them to go prove that as soon as the Sunday,

790
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: because if it doesn't go that way, then all of

791
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: a sudden, you're in a much different place.

792
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 3: And I'll say, the running back the two headed monsters

793
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 3: starting to get bigger and bigger and bigger, and I'm

794
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 3: excited about that.

795
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 2: Did you guys hear the fight song to Michigan when

796
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 2: Blake Korm was running the football, because I sure did.

797
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. It just popped into that it comes again.

798
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 3: Hear it?

799
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,479
Speaker 1: No, it brought out the best in the starter. Though

800
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: I thought I thought Kiren had his best day.

801
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 3: I did too, And I think the more they compete,

802
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 3: the better they are. The way you could run the

803
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 3: ball like that, it's gonna be a it's gonna be

804
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 3: a If you could keep that going, it's gonna be special.

805
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 2: It will keep it going.

806
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 3: Yes, all right.

807
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: Last thing, NFL officiating meet me over here at camera

808
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: whatever this is, and you guys support me on this.

809
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sorry, that's a penalty. Yeah, my bad.

810
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: Can we vouch for Popkua on this show if someone

811
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: needs to the least likely guy to taunt anybody on

812
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: the roster.

813
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 2: He did punch a guy in the face, though, come on,

814
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,959
Speaker 2: he did it happened, he was he was thrown out

815
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: of a game once. Oh yeah, I forgot it might

816
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 2: be on the list. Listen that I understand from the

817
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 2: viewpoint of that ref what he thought he saw. But

818
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 2: you have to understand the part of it. Part of like,

819
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: there's certain guys that taunt people, and there's certain actions

820
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 2: that taunt people. If I stand up and I'm flexing,

821
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,719
Speaker 2: that that's not taunting. I'm not looking at you now.

822
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 2: If I'm looking down on you and I'm flexing, that's taunting, correct, right,

823
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 2: So you have to that's the first part. The second

824
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 2: part is, let's be honest. This league is built on superstars.

825
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 3: You give guys. I used to the benefit of doubt

826
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 3: all the time. I mean, I usually do some wild

827
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,719
Speaker 3: stuff A three to two, get on out of here,

828
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 3: all right, you're right, I went too far. Don't do

829
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 3: it again. I got you.

830
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 2: Where was that?

831
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 3: Like?

832
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 2: You have to give him the benefit a It should

833
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 2: have been a warning.

834
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a warning to do that again.

835
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

836
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: Do you hear what Stafford said when he was asked

837
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: about high profile players veterans getting the benefit of the doubt.

838
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 2: What did you say?

839
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: I got popped in the chin. I didn't get the

840
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt. I've already had a rough in

841
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: the passer picked up so far this season. Oh, he

842
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: got hit in the mouth, right. His grit, his toughness

843
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: works against him. He's not protected because they know how

844
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,280
Speaker 1: tough he is. After seventeen.

845
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 3: It's funny because you'll see Josh Allen get like pushed

846
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 3: and he was like, oh oh yeah, yeah, so he's

847
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 3: got to sell a little bit.

848
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: That's for the officials who don't play fantasy football, who

849
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 1: have not had the chance to work with Pokinakua over

850
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: the course of three star studded seasons. He's not just

851
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: a superstar. He is the nicest guy on the roster.

852
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: Please stop throwing against him and maybe drop one on

853
00:34:59,120 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: those trying.

854
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 3: To He got ejected one time. That was a horrible call.

855
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 3: Had to get out of character. He had to get

856
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 3: out of character and then now he's good.

857
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 2: Look that that was a gouger by him, and I

858
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 2: felt him on that, and that's a shame that the

859
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 2: team was robbed of that by somebody that misinterpreted that

860
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 2: as a tongue.

861
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:17,240
Speaker 3: That's terrible.

862
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: One of the secrets to success the last two seasons

863
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: has been defending home turf in home back to backs

864
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: across the span of five days. Happened in twenty three,

865
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 1: happened again in twenty four. Here we go Sunday and

866
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: Thursday Colts and forty nine ers. You can't win them

867
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: both unless you beat Indy. So we'll see it there

868
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,439
Speaker 1: at Sofi Stadium for Maurice Jones drew the Marco far

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Speaker 1: two times. Just your average Joe's here on between the horns,

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Speaker 1: presented by your Southern.

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Speaker 2: California Antoia Dealers. There you go, flex on um to

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Speaker 2: Marco