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Speaker 1: Alex Stein starts right now.

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Speaker 4: Ladies and gentlemen, you're watching After Hours with Alex Stein

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Speaker 4: on Real America's voice. And you know what we're gonna

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Speaker 4: do tonight. We're going to get in the mud.

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Speaker 2: With a guy that I like. I actually like this guy.

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Speaker 2: He's a little libtarded.

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Speaker 4: His name is Brian Shapiro, but believe it or not,

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Speaker 4: he's actually a friendly fellow.

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Speaker 2: I like the guy, you know, so just watch the show.

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Speaker 4: It's going to be entertaining, and honestly, even though the

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Speaker 4: guy is a total libtard, there are some things that

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Speaker 4: I agree with him with, and I think that's how

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Speaker 4: most Americans are. I think, you know, more of us

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Speaker 2: So that's gonna be very interesting.

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Speaker 4: But before I get into the Brian Shapiro debate, I

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Speaker 4: want to talk about the Grammys. The Grammys used to

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Speaker 4: be an iconic music awards show that really celebrated great musicians,

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Speaker 4: but now it has become propaganda for homosexuals and transgender

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Speaker 4: And you saw the host, Trevor Noah took some shots

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Speaker 4: Minaj is a black woman, and Trevor Noah's half black,

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Speaker 4: I've never seen his DNA test. My point is it

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Speaker 4: I really am really really really really really frustrated because

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Speaker 4: America and oftentimes are the most successful, you know, are

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Speaker 4: the Chinese are not represented fairly, and that was at

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Speaker 4: He's not the NBA anymore. We need more Chinese representation.

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Speaker 4: So that's where I'm really frustrated. I think the Grammys

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Speaker 4: So we got to call out the Grammys. They deserve

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Speaker 4: Opposite of these singers and songwriters, because these people worship

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Speaker 4: I wish everything that I said tonight was a joke.

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Speaker 4: for all these Chinese people that steal our information in

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Speaker 4: Radio and he's an all around redheaded liptard. But believe

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Speaker 4: the Pimpona Blimt Primetime ninety nine Alex Stein and I

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Speaker 4: the host of Pushing the Limits Radio. Give it up

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Speaker 4: for the One, the Only Brian Shapiro, Brian, how are

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Speaker 2: Evening.

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Speaker 3: Doing good, Alex. Thanks for having me on the show.

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Speaker 3: It's good to see it, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, it's always a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Brian.

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Speaker 4: You know, this is the thing we have, this left

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Speaker 4: I totally disagree. Like you love abortion, right.

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Speaker 3: I never said I love abortion. That's not true. I

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Speaker 2: Yes, you said you love abortion. You said you love it,

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Speaker 2: and you like the baby parts.

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Speaker 4: You buy him from Planned Parenthood and you do rituals

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Speaker 4: with him on Jeffrey Ebstein's island.

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Speaker 2: Please admit to that.

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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't love abortion anymore than I would

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Speaker 3: love you taking all of your clothes off. Right now,

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Speaker 2: That you're not gay.

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Speaker 4: So now you're using gay as a pejorative, which is

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Speaker 2: They're so pro gay, but they're always like, oh, he's gay,

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Speaker 4: Isn't that a little hypocritical when the left uses gay

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Speaker 2: Know, and all the negative tonnotation.

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Speaker 3: I just don't have a fetish for right wing buffoons.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: First of all, I'll allow you to call me that

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Speaker 4: I know that's just fine. You know, we're just having fun.

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Speaker 4: But my point is I could be more serious, Brian.

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Speaker 4: But we live in such a crazy world. I feel

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Speaker 4: like that constant like seriousness. It's just it's not any fun.

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Speaker 2: That's why I kind of go ahead.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry to I listened to your monologue. You made

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Speaker 3: me laugh a lot. I totally agree with what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: I do so much serious talk radio all the time,

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying this to kiss your ass, but you're

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Speaker 3: I had fun debating you because it wasn't so damn serious,

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Speaker 4: And I do, And I meant what I said that

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Speaker 4: I think that is a common critique, and I know

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Speaker 2: But if a left landing show ever invited me, I

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Speaker 4: I would go straight on that show because I want

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Speaker 4: lot of leftist won't go, and then they can hear

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Speaker 2: So I want to commend you on that.

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Speaker 4: But before we get into we're kissing each other's butts

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Speaker 4: too much, I'm already gonna get canceled. Everybody already calls

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Speaker 4: me a libtard, and we're gonna get into Renee Good, no,

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Speaker 4: Alex pretty. But I want to start off with your

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Speaker 4: ex boyfriend Don Lemon so you you used to date

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Speaker 4: Don Lemon?

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Speaker 2: Is that true?

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Speaker 3: No, that's entirely not true. But don in all sense.

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Speaker 2: Why would my produce a why he said, y'all are

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Speaker 4: Spend a bunch of nights together, and y'all are he's

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Speaker 4: like your mentor and stuff, and that he groomed you.

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Speaker 4: Is that is my producer lying when he said all

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Speaker 3: But I will say it's serious this. He's helped me

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Speaker 4: Hey, you know what, Actually, I think that is a

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Speaker 4: good point. The more you try to cancel somebody, I

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Speaker 4: think it has a reverse effect where it actually makes you,

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Speaker 4: your friend Don Lemon. But he says white supremacy is

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Speaker 4: one of our biggest problems in America. Yet he's married

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Speaker 3: No, because he's not saying every white person is a

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Speaker 3: white supremacist. Alex. Of course, white supremacy is a problem

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Speaker 3: I don't know what it's like to be pulled over

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Speaker 4: Well, listen, we already agree on something. I believe systemic

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Speaker 4: Towards white people, because why do I have to have

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Speaker 2: I mean, listen, I want to help marginalize people too.

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Speaker 4: But the reason why everybody's getting followed in an electronics

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Speaker 2: And I mean, I can blame that on we go ahead.

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Speaker 3: I was just going to say, that doesn't mean that

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Speaker 4: Why I disagree, because actually law enforcement, and now you

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Speaker 3: You saying, are are you saying you're against the Fourth Amendment?

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Speaker 4: of it and they listening to a bunch of gangster

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Speaker 2: You know, maybe that they are doing something nefarious. I

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Speaker 4: If they are committing a crime and they get caught,

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Speaker 4: If you listen to Kanye West, everybody is considered an

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Speaker 3: But yeah, well I disagree with you. I want everyone

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Speaker 3: And that's you know, that's not what's happening in this country,

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Speaker 3: gay man, he didn't break any laws. He wasn't protesting,

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Speaker 3: I just debated Benny Johnson on this on Pierce Morgan today.

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Speaker 3: It's a joke. These charges are not going to hold up.

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Speaker 3: It'd be tough to just even get him on a

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Speaker 2: I had to catch you off a little bit though.

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Speaker 4: These people were trying to have a church service and

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Speaker 2: You've heard of him. They go in protest and they

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Speaker 4: would go to jail. So I don't understand how you

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Speaker 4: cannot see. So he stopped it, Alex's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: He's he stopped them from having.

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Speaker 2: He didn't the church service.

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Speaker 3: No, he didn't. This is where you're wrong, Alex. I

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Speaker 3: am not defending the actual protesters. That is against the law.

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Speaker 3: You're not allowed to protest on private property. You're certainly

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Speaker 3: not allowed to protest in a religious sanctuary. Don Flemon

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Speaker 3: was not doing that. You see it all on video.

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Speaker 3: He was live the whole time. He wasn't protesting, he

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Speaker 3: wasn't disrupting anybody. All the man simply did was take

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Speaker 3: out his phone.

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Speaker 2: He was talking. Wait, Brian, he was talking to the pastor.

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Speaker 2: He was talking to trying to do the church. This

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Speaker 2: clip right here, he's like, he's like, please leave.

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Speaker 4: So, whether it's an interview or not, he's still disrupting

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Speaker 4: that the service because he's holding a camera phone. I

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Speaker 4: don't think that that really negates the fact that he interrupted.

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Speaker 2: So you're saying, well, we're saying that you can interrupt.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Brian, you're saying that you can interrupt a church

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Speaker 4: service as long as you're being a journalist, then that

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Speaker 4: gives you the ability to shop people from worshiping.

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Speaker 3: No, the people that interrupted the church service were the

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Speaker 3: actual protesters, and after the protests started, that is when

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Speaker 3: Don Lemon decided to interview the pastor, when he was

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Speaker 3: not in the middle of the service, when the service

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Speaker 3: was clearly over or interrupted. It is almost going to

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Speaker 3: be impossible for prosecutors to prove that Don Lemon was

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Speaker 3: a part of that protest in that fashion. I guarantee

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Speaker 3: you these charges will not hold up. And by the way,

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Speaker 3: legal experts on the right and the left for the

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Speaker 3: most part agree with me. And I also find it

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Speaker 3: interesting that so many people on the right want to

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Speaker 3: throw Don Lemon in jail because a church service was interrupted.

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Speaker 3: I don't believe it was his fault. But yet they

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Speaker 3: don't want a full investigation into Jonathan Ross after he

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Speaker 3: shoots a thirty seven year old woman in the face.

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Speaker 3: Nothing to see here, ladies and gentlemen. You know, I

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Speaker 3: find it very problematic. And by the way, Don Lemon

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Speaker 3: didn't storm at church. If you want to talk about

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Speaker 3: people who storm something, go back to January sixth leve

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Speaker 3: those people storm. Ah.

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Speaker 4: Wait, you and I argue real quick, Grian, you and

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Speaker 4: I argue so much, but Brian, real quick.

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Speaker 2: We got to go to break.

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Speaker 4: But you know that there's FBI agents, and the FBI

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Speaker 4: will not even tell us how many agents are there,

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Speaker 4: and they have a thing where they're called agent bravocateurs,

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Speaker 4: So they have an FBI agent go there and cause

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Speaker 4: a bunch of drama. So it looks like it's a

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Speaker 4: bunch of maga people when it's not maga people and

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Speaker 4: it's the FBI. But we're gonna get into it after

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Speaker 4: the break. So coming up next, we're going to discuss

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Speaker 4: these ice shootings. And you know, I have a little

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Speaker 4: bit of an unpopular opinion that you know, tends you

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Speaker 4: agree with Brian.

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Speaker 2: A little bit, and it gets people really riled up.

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Speaker 4: So coming up next after the break, I'm about to

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Speaker 4: put you in a blender because I'm gonna, you know,

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Speaker 4: put you through some mental gymnastics and uh me and

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Speaker 4: Brian are gonna go at it. And the third segment, though,

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Speaker 4: tonight is when the gloves really come off.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see you after the break.

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Speaker 4: You're back on Real America's Voice watching After Hours with

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Speaker 4: Alex Stein and our great guest.

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Speaker 2: He is libtarded, but I think he's a fair libtard.

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Speaker 4: He's one of the good ones. You know, there are

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Speaker 4: a few of them, Brian Shapiro. But Brian, I want

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Speaker 4: to say this before we even get into this topic.

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Speaker 4: I get universally hated by all conservatives for having a

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Speaker 4: nuanced viewpoint. And it wasn't that long ago. And I'm

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Speaker 4: not saying this to sound like a victim. But I

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Speaker 4: don't know if you even know this, Brian. You know,

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Speaker 4: my mom got COVID. She was fifty nine years old,

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Speaker 4: was vaccinated, and they give her him Deseevere, and she

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Speaker 4: died in my arms in less than seven days, and

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Speaker 4: they didn't I mean, I got to spend every day

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Speaker 4: with her. Well, I appreciate that, but I only got

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Speaker 4: to spend like four hours a day with her. I

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Speaker 4: had to leave at night, so I couldn't even sleep

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Speaker 4: for the whole week because I'm just like calling the

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Speaker 4: Hall hospital and they didn't hardly want to even give

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Speaker 4: me reports on it. And I saw the weaponization of

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Speaker 4: the government against conservatives during that time, and I was

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Speaker 4: a real victim of it. And like I said, I'm

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Speaker 4: not trying to act like a victim, but I just

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Speaker 4: saw that. And this is after Trump was out. This

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Speaker 4: is why Biden was the president. But Trump, you know,

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Speaker 4: did do some stuff I disagreed with with COVID, but

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Speaker 4: that's neither here nor there. My point is I did

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Speaker 4: see the weaponization of the government come against me, a conservative,

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Speaker 4: take away my right to be with my mom and

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Speaker 4: the ICU.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it was absolutely ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: So that is even what's made me more conservative, because

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Speaker 4: I want less government intervention. I think that the government

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Speaker 4: is very incompetent when it comes to the rules that

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Speaker 4: they set for us, and that oftentimes we have a

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Speaker 4: two cheer justice system where these politicians and these illegal

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Speaker 4: immigrants aren't held at the same standard as middle class

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Speaker 4: Americans like you and myself. So it's not a lot

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Speaker 4: of fun when the rabbit gets the gun. And right now,

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Speaker 4: technically our side has the gun, but that can flip

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Speaker 4: instantly with an impeachment, with a you know, scandal, and

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Speaker 4: so all the people that are cheering on the ICE

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Speaker 4: agents for shooting people in the street, even if the

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Speaker 4: shootings are justified, it's still not a good situation because

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Speaker 4: it is only going to lay the groundwork for more shootings.

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Speaker 2: So I get.

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Speaker 4: Universally hated because I said that the cop that shot

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Speaker 4: Renee Good, he didn't really get hit by that car

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Speaker 4: very hard. I've been hit by a car, I got

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Speaker 4: knocked off my feet. This guy's on his cell phone

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Speaker 4: and you know, blasting caves. I'm just being honest. I

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Speaker 4: didn't think that he got hit by a car very

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Speaker 4: hard and he did blow her brains out, and everybody

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Speaker 4: gets mad at me for saying that.

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Speaker 2: So I think you agree with me on that topic.

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Speaker 4: Why can't I have this take, Brian without getting canceled

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Speaker 4: in your opinion.

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Speaker 3: Because there's a lot of Trump mushroom gobblers out there,

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Speaker 3: and you're honest, and I agree with you. First of all,

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Speaker 3: the shooting of Renee Good to me wasn't justified at all.

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Speaker 3: But even if people disagree with this, Alex, there was

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Speaker 3: no full investigation. In fact, you have Christinaham calling her

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Speaker 3: a domestic terrorist. It's a joke. And I can go

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Speaker 3: through play by play, for lack of a better term,

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Speaker 3: of all the proper protocols that they didn't abide by.

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Speaker 3: And then we go to the Alex pretty shooting where

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Speaker 3: we were told by Christinoman others that he brandished a

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Speaker 3: gun and we know that didn't happen either, And there's

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Speaker 3: Alex Pretty right there. So because he's spit in an

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Speaker 3: officer eleven days before, as we see in this video,

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Speaker 3: and he kicks a car, that justifies him being executed unarmed.

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Speaker 3: By the way, this is sick and these are sick

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Speaker 3: people that defend this. So to answer your question, Alex,

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Speaker 3: in all seriousness, people don't want the truth. They see

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Speaker 3: a left wing activist and it's almost like they say, well,

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Speaker 3: you deserved it, you put yourself in that situation. They're

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Speaker 3: lying to us, Alex, and you're right, and I'm sorry,

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Speaker 3: I'm so sorry what happened to your mom. The government

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Speaker 3: lies to us. I don't mean to sound like that

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Speaker 3: despicable human being, Alex Jones. But the government does lie

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Speaker 3: to us. I don't always believe the government. And the

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Speaker 3: fact of the matter is is that you have people,

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Speaker 3: these ICE agents that are goons, that are wearing their

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Speaker 3: scarfs to hide their identity as if they're undercover agents,

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Speaker 3: which by the way, they're not. They're kicking down doors, okay,

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Speaker 3: without warrants to do so. Illegal. They're going up to

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Speaker 3: people that have accents and brown people asking them for

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Speaker 3: ID and paperwork without reasonable or articulable suspicion. This is wrong.

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Speaker 3: So I'm obviously we agree on this, Alex. But the

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Speaker 3: fact of the matter is that people out there that

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Speaker 3: are attacking us for calling out what we saw with

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Speaker 3: our own two eyes, they're sick. I did a four

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Speaker 3: hour debate the other day with Andrew Wilson.

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Speaker 2: Well you know what, Jeffers.

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Speaker 4: Was, Oh, well, go ahead, I want to hear Andrews defense. No, no,

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Speaker 4: let me hear Andrew's defense. And then I want to

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Speaker 4: tell you my saving It was.

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Speaker 3: Alex pretty shooting and this is on video, Okay, our debate.

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Speaker 3: His defense when with Alex preddie was well after they

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Speaker 3: took the first gun, they didn't know, maybe he had

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Speaker 3: a second gun or a third gun. If that's your

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Speaker 3: defense in this shooting, then that would be your defense

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Speaker 3: in every officer involved shooting. Because it's not a defense,

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Speaker 3: it's wrong. And I don't trust the DHS. I don't

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Speaker 3: trust Christy Noum. They've simply already made their decision that

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Speaker 3: Stephen Miller called him an assassin. Is there any reasonable

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Speaker 3: person that thinks Alex Preddy went in there to execute people? Though,

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Speaker 3: of course not.

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Speaker 4: Well, he did bring a gun there. I mean, let's

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Speaker 4: be reality. To bring a gun there, he didn't bring it.

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Speaker 4: He didn't just he didn't just bring it for fundsies.

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Speaker 4: He brought it in case he needed to use it,

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Speaker 4: and he was going after I saw. I'm just saying

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Speaker 4: he did have some premeditation. But this is where I think,

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Speaker 4: you know, when it comes to this situation where you

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Speaker 4: and I are, you know, this is where we disagree.

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Speaker 2: I saw the horrible tragedy.

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Speaker 4: We also the horrible tragedy of Charlie Kirk, and that

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Speaker 4: was a leftist with his gay boyfriend, you know, shooting

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Speaker 4: him in the net. And so I think it is

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Speaker 4: very relevant because it was one of the biggest assassinated.

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Speaker 4: It's the biggest assassination. You know, I guess your hands,

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Speaker 4: Prime Minister, his boyfriend.

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Speaker 3: Assassinating his boyfriend is irrelevant whether he's gay, in.

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Speaker 4: The fact that they're mentally ill and doing weird stuff,

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Speaker 4: you know, that could have been that he could you know,

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Speaker 4: the saying that's true. But even I was on Jubilee

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Speaker 4: and even fact checked me correct. It's over seventy percent

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Speaker 4: of people that identify as gay said that they face

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Speaker 4: sexual trauma as a child.

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Speaker 2: So if he's a gay.

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Speaker 4: Guy, there's a likelihood, if it's seventy percent, that he

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Speaker 4: could have been molested. So he's going to have, you know,

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Speaker 4: serious mental illness.

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Speaker 3: We don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like we thought, we don't know this.

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Speaker 2: We don't know this.

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Speaker 4: But I'm just going by math because I'm a mathematician,

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Speaker 4: because I'm Alex Einstein. But so what I'm saying is

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Speaker 4: we saw this horrible tragedy, and now the people that

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Speaker 4: are cheering this on, I think they're happy because we

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Speaker 4: lost a person that.

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Speaker 2: We all loved, a beloved member.

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Speaker 4: Of the conservative movement, probably the most important guy of

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Speaker 4: the last you know, other than Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: I think you could argue, Charlie Kirk is probably the.

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Speaker 4: Most influential person in the conservative movement, so people feel

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Speaker 4: like they're being vindicated. And I don't like that either,

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Speaker 4: because two wrongs don't make it right, Alex.

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Speaker 3: But Alex, here's where I think you're wrong on this, Okay, respectfully,

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Speaker 3: when when, first of all, when Charlie Kirk was murdered,

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Speaker 3: it was horrible. You couldn't find me one prominent elected

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Speaker 3: official on the left that was celebrating the death of

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Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk. Now, it doesn't mean we're going to sell.

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Speaker 4: It we were a secretly they were secretly Brian, No, that's.

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Speaker 3: Bull that's bs. There's no evidence of that. So I

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Speaker 3: call out political violence to mirror where it is. What

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Speaker 3: happened to Charlie Kirk was awful. I was emotional on

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Speaker 3: the air the day it happened. Now, I'm not going

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Speaker 3: to sit here and celebrate his life because I don't

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Speaker 3: think he was a good guy. But that doesn't mean I'm.

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Speaker 2: Going to celebrate he was a good guy.

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Speaker 4: Brian, you actually would have liked Charlie, and Charlie would

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Speaker 4: have let you go to his event. Charlie was would

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Speaker 4: have welcomed you would have debated you that that's Charlie

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Speaker 4: to tell you he was a good guy.

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Speaker 2: Well, don't talk bad about Charlie. He was a good guy.

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Speaker 4: And I'm not even taking that personally. I'm just saying

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Speaker 4: you would have liked him. I know you well enough.

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Speaker 2: You would have liked and respected Charlie if you had

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Speaker 2: any Well.

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Speaker 3: Maybe not, but maybe maybe not. But you get off.

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Speaker 3: To get off the Charlie Kirk stuff. I'm consistent. I

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Speaker 3: call out political violence to mirror where it is. What

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Speaker 3: happened to Charlie Kirk was terrible. I also call out

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Speaker 3: what's happening in Minneapolis with Renee Good and Alex Preddy.

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Speaker 3: This is all terrible. Now there is a full investigation

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Speaker 3: into the murder of Charlie Kirk. Why is there no

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Speaker 3: investigation into what I believe is the murder of Renee Good?

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Speaker 3: They made the decision within twelve.

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Speaker 4: Well, I wrote Craig Brian, isn't that Minneapolis is a

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Speaker 4: PD's fault. They've they've definitely stooped down. Now it's they're

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Speaker 4: not even yes, they're not even getting involved. They're the

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Speaker 4: ones that can arrest. They can arrest an FBI or dhs'

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Speaker 4: dement arch agent.

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Speaker 3: They're not allowing them to investigate. They're not allowing them

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Speaker 3: to get involved. The Trump administration and those officials, the

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Speaker 3: tom Holmans of the world, are not allowing local police

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Speaker 3: to get involved. Now listen, I don't agree with what

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Speaker 3: some of the protesters are doing, like blocking roads. I

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Speaker 3: talked about that yesterday. I think you're stupid if you

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Speaker 3: do that. Okay, but most of these people are only recorded.

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Speaker 3: Most of these people are not breaking the law, and

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Speaker 3: they're treating some of these people like animals. We saw

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Speaker 3: earlier today, there's a video that's circulating of two people

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Speaker 3: in a car who were following ICE. Now, listen, Alex.

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Speaker 3: It's not something you would do, it's not something I

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Speaker 3: would do, but it's still legal. So what do these

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Speaker 3: ICE agents do. They pull them over, and there's video

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Speaker 3: of them taking out their guns and drawing them when

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Speaker 3: these people were armed and they weren't breaking the law,

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Speaker 3: and they were arrested. This is Gustapo stuff. And Joe

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Speaker 3: Rogan even agrees with me, well this is wrong.

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Speaker 2: Well, I want to say I want to say this.

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Speaker 4: I am very empathetic to the ICE agents and Department

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Speaker 4: of Homeland security, because there's a famous video of me

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Speaker 4: going at a drag Queen's story time and these guys

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Speaker 4: are holding guns. And one of the people that were

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Speaker 4: holding guns was actually the same guy that got arrested.

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Speaker 2: I forget his name.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to docs the wrong name. He got

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Speaker 4: arrested for shooting an ICE agent. You know there was

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Speaker 4: an ambush where they shot ICE agents. You know that

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Speaker 4: that happened.

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Speaker 2: So these people are they feel like there's an attack

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Speaker 2: on them.

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Speaker 4: They feel like they're literally being attacked. So everything right

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Speaker 4: now is incredibly stressful. It's stressful for the protesters, it's

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Speaker 4: stressful for the ICE agents, it's stressful for dhs.

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Speaker 2: And I feel like the.

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Speaker 4: Only people that are not stressed out are the ones

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Speaker 4: that are not protesting, not getting involved. So that's why

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Speaker 4: I encourage people don't go protest at an ICE protest things.

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Speaker 4: The likelihood of things going colic South, like Don Lemon learned,

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Speaker 4: is a high probability.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but Alex, these are a lot of these people

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Speaker 3: on the streets, these ICE agents. Forty seven days of training,

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Speaker 3: that's an effing joke. Okay, a fifty thousand dollars bonus

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Speaker 3: and forty seven days of training scarfs over their faces.

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Speaker 3: We don't even How do we let me ask you

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Speaker 3: a question, how do we hold accountability to these ice

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Speaker 3: officers if we don't know who they are? Why is

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Speaker 3: it police officers don't have scarves over their face? How

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Speaker 3: do we hold these people accountable if they won't show

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Speaker 3: us who they are? I don't want to live.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm anti mask but I'm anti masked. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't like masks. I mean, I can't really argue

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Speaker 2: with that. I don't like mask masks.

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Speaker 4: I think that in this modern era, they can identify anybody.

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Speaker 4: They have facial recognition. You know your iPhone, you can

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Speaker 4: cover half your face and it knows by your eyeballs.

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Speaker 4: It'll open up, so they can figure out who these

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Speaker 4: people are. You know who they are, so it's not

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Speaker 4: that hard to figure it out, Brian, I suppose so.

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Speaker 3: But I think a lot of these ice officers that

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Speaker 3: are wearing those masks are cowered and rent to cops.

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Speaker 3: That's what I would call them. I'm not saying every

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Speaker 3: ice officer is bad. I'm not, And by the way,

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Speaker 3: I'm pro police. I think the old overwhelming majority of

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Speaker 3: law enforcement are good people that risk their lives every day.

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Speaker 4: Not see right there, you and I disagree. I'm at

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Speaker 4: the police. There's only a few good cops, you know

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Speaker 4: what I mean. That's funny you and our opposite on that.

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Speaker 4: See I'm libtarted on that and you're conservative on the

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Speaker 4: cops that well. Coming up after the break, Brian and

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Speaker 4: I have had some spicy debates in the past when it.

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Speaker 2: Comes to January sixth, we're going to talk about January sixth. Hey,

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Speaker 2: we're going to talk about.

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Speaker 4: The trans movement where Brian actually has some nuanced takes

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Speaker 4: on that.

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Speaker 2: So you definitely.

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Speaker 4: Want to stick around because I'm telling you it's about

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Speaker 4: to get spicy, and it might get a little nicy.

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Speaker 4: I'm excited to be here with you this evening. I

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Speaker 4: know it's a little late, so you got to stay up.

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Speaker 4: You might want to put the kids to bed because

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Speaker 4: you know, things might get a little nazi here when

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Speaker 4: you come back after the break.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to After Hours, Real Americas.

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Speaker 3: Boys.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for rocking with us this evening. It's been

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Speaker 2: a pleasure. It's been a fun ride.

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Speaker 4: I can't believe it's almost over, but we still got

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Speaker 4: some time left on the clock to really get after it.

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Speaker 4: Now I want to call out Brian for one topic

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Speaker 4: that him and I totally disagree on when it comes

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Speaker 4: to January sixth, I feel like the government was totally

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Speaker 4: weaponized against American citizens that feel like in election was

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Speaker 4: hinky jinky, was not the real.

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Speaker 2: Results that they felt like the outcome should have been.

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Speaker 4: And you saw the way that the charts win all

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Speaker 4: of a sudden, Biden got a million votes, like at

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Speaker 4: three o'clock in the morning. Then you look at the

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Speaker 4: Georgia election keepers or like hiding them counting the ballots.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of funny business surrounding the twenty twenty election,

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Speaker 4: and there was a lot of patriots that lost their jobs,

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Speaker 4: lost their families, were in solitary confinement for going and protesting.

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Speaker 2: Now we know, oh that.

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Speaker 4: A peaceful protest is totally legal, but an unpeaceful protest

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Speaker 4: is a crime. But there's been many instances, and you

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Speaker 4: can look up the World Trade Organization protests where FBI

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Speaker 4: agents were caught being what is called an agent provocateur

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Speaker 4: where they wanted to stop peaceful protesters. So these FBI

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Speaker 4: agents go there and they start busting windows and they

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Speaker 4: make the protests not peaceful. From all the evidence that

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Speaker 4: I've seen, we don't even know how many FBI agents

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Speaker 4: were there on January sixth, and.

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Speaker 2: I would say that there was probably a lot. So, Brian,

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Speaker 2: what do you.

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Speaker 4: Have to say about the idea that there could have

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Speaker 4: been FBI agents that were the ones that kind of

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Speaker 4: radicalize the people to get in there and start causing problems.

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Speaker 2: You really think that that's an impossibility.

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, there's no evidence to prove that

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Speaker 3: there were actual FBI agents that radicalized anybody. There were

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Speaker 3: FBI agents there, And I would also say, if you

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Speaker 3: talk to anybody that's a former FBI agent, they would

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Speaker 3: tell you when you have tens of thousands of people

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Speaker 3: that are angery that show up to a political protest,

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Speaker 3: it's not unusual to have FBI agents there undercover. Until

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Speaker 3: I actually see evidence. Just like you talking about the

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty election and funny business, which I think is absurd,

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Speaker 3: there's no widespread border fraunt evidence, a lot of.

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Speaker 4: Funny business, a lot of funny Well, agree to disagree?

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Speaker 2: Is it very stuff? There was a comedy show? Okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: well I disagree with you.

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Speaker 3: But here's what we know for sure, nobody forced anybody

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Speaker 3: to beat police officers with their own batons. Nobody forced

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Speaker 3: anybody to defecate on Nancy Pelosi's desk. There were there

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Speaker 3: were officers right now that have Brian.

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Speaker 4: Brian, you bring up Nancy Pelosi, Why didn't she have

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Speaker 4: more security there? She's out there with her daughter filming

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Speaker 4: a documentary, her daughter's boyfriend's taking pictures of the q

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Speaker 4: Andon shaman. You don't think he was telling people, get

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Speaker 4: in there, get in there, QAnon shaman. How what is

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Speaker 4: it likelihood that him and the QAnon shaman have a

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Speaker 4: picture on the Capitol steps before they even storm the place.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that is an accident.

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Speaker 3: So, first of all, it's not an accident. If Donald

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Speaker 3: let me ask you a question. If Donald Trump doesn't

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Speaker 3: lie about the two thousand and twenty election being stolen,

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Speaker 3: does January sixth happen? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Or no?

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Speaker 2: I don't think he lied. I really don't think he lied.

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Speaker 2: I think that they like you think.

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Speaker 3: So you still think, well, that's alex with respect. That's

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Speaker 3: like saying the Earth is flat. There's no evidence that

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Speaker 3: Trump won. You know that. So let me ask you again,

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Speaker 3: if Donald Trump.

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Speaker 4: Does well, Candie Owens said it's flat. Candas Owen said

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Speaker 4: it's flat. She probably knows Candas Owens is an anti

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Speaker 4: Semitic idiot.

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Speaker 3: Let's get back to the task hand. If Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: concedes and does what every other president in American history

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Speaker 3: has done, does January sixth happen? Yes or no?

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Speaker 4: I mean I think that we were all under the

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Speaker 4: impression that it was stolen. So I don't think it

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Speaker 4: was just Donald Trump speaking. I mean I honestly thought

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Speaker 4: it was stolen before Donald Trump even came out and

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Speaker 4: said it was stolen.

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Speaker 3: Chance, and what are you getting this from?

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Speaker 2: You saw the chart.

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Speaker 3: We have something called mail in ballots, and they didn't

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Speaker 3: count all the ballots. It took them until the following

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Speaker 3: morning to all those ballots. Oh yeah, by the way,

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump is the guy who said don't mail in ballot,

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Speaker 3: don't do it. So if you want to blame anybody,

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Speaker 3: blame Donald Trump. Just because they didn't count all the

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Speaker 3: votes yet doesn't mean that it was stolen.

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Speaker 4: Alex Brian Brian, I think that they use COVID as

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Speaker 4: the groundwork in order to get all of these states

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Speaker 4: to do the mail in ballot. And you can actually

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Speaker 4: look at these stats. When it came to voting in person,

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Speaker 4: donald Trump won all fifty states, even the most liberal

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Speaker 4: states like California, when it came to in person voting,

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Speaker 4: and then when it came to mail in ballots, Joe

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Speaker 4: Biden won all fifty states. Wouldn't you agree that it's

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Speaker 4: easier to cheat with a mail in ballot than by

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Speaker 4: voting in person.

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Speaker 3: But I just told you Donald Trump told his supporters

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Speaker 3: not to mail in ballot. What do you expect He

872
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 3: told all of his supporters not to so again.

873
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Speaker 4: So he's telling the supporters to be honest voters. He's

874
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 4: telling his supporters to be on his voters. So you

875
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,439
Speaker 4: have people going to nursing homes and filling out mail

876
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Speaker 4: in ballots for people and voting.

877
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Speaker 2: Biden nail that they just harvested.

878
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 3: Again. Just because people say it happened doesn't mean it did.

879
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 3: You have to prove that in a court of law.

880
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 3: Donald Trump was own sixty one in the courts. The

881
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 3: bottom line is Joe Biden won a free for election.

882
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,240
Speaker 3: Donald Trump won the election in twenty sixteen and twenty

883
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Speaker 3: twenty four. You know what the big difference is, Democrats

884
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 3: didn't storm the Capitol and Kamala Harris conceded and Hillary

885
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 3: Clinton conceded. You you support a cry baby who incited

886
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 3: the January sixth insurrection. And I wish you would just

887
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 3: admit that because Donald Trump did not win, there's no

888
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 3: widespread voter fraud evidence. He was owned sixty one in

889
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 3: the courts, and he still whins and bitches about it today.

890
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 3: It's an absolute joke. And he literally is an eight

891
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 3: year old cry baby who can't admit when he lost.

892
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 3: It's insane. And the fact that you won't put any

893
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Speaker 3: responsibility and you won't answer my question directly, I'll answer

894
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Speaker 3: it for you. January sixth doesn't happen if Donald Trump

895
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Speaker 3: does what every other president in American history does and

896
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Speaker 3: conceded election. Even Al Gore conceded.

897
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Speaker 1: He's not a quitner.

898
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Speaker 2: He's not a quitter. I respect that. I respect a

899
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 2: man that's willing to double to be that's a short loser.

900
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 2: Well maybe maybe so, But I would.

901
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Speaker 4: Say for his political career it actually benefited him, Brian,

902
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 4: it actually helped that he had four years off. Then

903
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 4: we had the auto pin president Joe Biden, who was

904
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 4: a walking corpse, and then everybody could see how bad

905
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 4: things were.

906
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Speaker 2: Aren't you happy you're.

907
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 4: Out in Las Vegas at your gas is about four

908
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 4: dollars cheaper than than it was just a short while ago.

909
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 2: You know why two dollars?

910
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 3: No, No, I'm not You know why because everything else

911
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 3: is skyrocketed except for every life cheap gash.

912
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 4: You're such a liar who doesn't like cheaper gash?

913
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 2: You're such a liar.

914
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 3: What good is cheaper gas when we're paying more for

915
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 3: everything else? It doesn't make sense, Alex, what you're talking about,

916
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 3: It doesn't make any sense. Everything is headed in the

917
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 3: wrong direction. The unemployment rate was at four point one

918
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 3: percent when Joe Biden left office. It's now at around

919
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 3: four point five, four point six percent. Everything in the

920
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 3: grocery store is more now than it was a year ago,

921
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 3: except for eggs. There are things in the economy that

922
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 3: are headed in the wrong direction. Have you seen private

923
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 3: sector job growth? Have you seen these statistics? So yes,

924
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 3: I'm happy, I guess I'm jumping for joy that gas

925
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 3: is twenty nine cents cheaper now than it was a

926
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Speaker 3: year ago. But the war in Ukraine is still going on.

927
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Speaker 3: He said he was going to end that in twenty

928
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 3: four hours. We don't have peace in the Middle East.

929
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Speaker 3: He kidnaps a president of another country to steal oil.

930
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 3: He's threatening military action against Greenland. We are in a

931
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,760
Speaker 3: mess right now. And now there are trade deals between

932
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 3: our allies in China because of Donald Trump's tariffs. And

933
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 3: you're sitting there and you want me to jump for

934
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 3: joy and have an orgast.

935
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, because at least Donald Trump. Okay, let me just

936
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 4: ask you this question. Do you think Donald Trump loves America?

937
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 4: Though that we at least can see that Donald Trump

938
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 4: does like this country.

939
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Speaker 3: I think the only thing that Donald Trump loves is himself,

940
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 3: and I can give you multiple examples of why I

941
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 3: think that way. He doesn't care about anybody else but

942
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 3: himself and enriching himself and his own family. He has

943
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 3: made four billion dollars since he got into office, while

944
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 3: he gives the biggest tax breaks to the top one percent.

945
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 3: I'll tell you who he loves. He loves himself, and

946
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 3: he loves the fact that the tech billionaires are donating

947
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 3: to his campaign. Do you think Jeff Bezos would have

948
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 3: put eighty million dollars into the stupid Millennia movie if

949
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 3: Donald Trump didn't win reelection? No, of course, Now, Why don't.

950
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 2: You call out Jeff Bezos. Why don't you call out

951
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 2: Jeff Bezos for being a hypercurrirect. That's we're playing both sides.

952
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 3: I have, but I've also called out Melania Trump receiving

953
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 3: forty million dollars for this. I've called out Donald.

954
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 2: She's hot. She's a hot babe.

955
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 4: They wanted to make a movie about her. I mean,

956
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 4: give me a break. I can't believe he's a price.

957
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 4: They put Kamala Harris on every Vogue cover.

958
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 2: They do that.

959
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 4: Michelle Obama, they call her a hero. She's a saint

960
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 4: to these people. And she's on her podcast every week

961
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 4: acting like she's the biggest a.

962
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 2: Victim in the world. Will she was the first black

963
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 2: first lady?

964
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 3: You really want to have a conversation in my opinions

965
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,720
Speaker 3: on Malennia Trump, I'll gladly give them to you, Alex

966
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 3: if you want them and I won't, Well.

967
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 4: Then she's a girl, not like Michelle with a big

968
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 4: hog hanging out of her pants on Alan Degeneral show.

969
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 3: Michelle didn't put Michelle didn't come to this. Michelle didn't

970
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 3: come to this country and take off all of her

971
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 3: clothes and become a gold digger. She's actually an educating way.

972
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 2: Now you don't like naked women. I knew you were

973
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 2: a gay, Brian.

974
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 4: I knew it, And now that's all we need clip

975
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 4: that Brian Shapiro doesn't like naked women.

976
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 2: Brian Shapiro is gay, which is cool. We'll accept it.

977
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not anti gay because I'm a Dallas

978
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 4: Cowboys fan, so obviously I'm not anti gay.

979
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 3: A big attraction I have. I have a big thing

980
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 3: for Lindsey Graham and George Santos.

981
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 4: Well, if Lindsay Grant probably is gay, George santo is

982
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 4: a good guy at Liasty.

983
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 2: He's honest about it. Linda, Georgraham not so much.

984
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 3: Like like I like George. I actually think George is

985
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 3: a good guy. How about Benny Johnson. Give us your

986
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 3: thoughts on that he's not gay?

987
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 4: Oh my, guys, they all say that it's so stupid.

988
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 4: It's just he's not gay.

989
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 3: With being gay, by the way, there's.

990
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 2: Nothing wrong with being gay.

991
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 4: But you guys use it as a pejorative to attack him,

992
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 4: yet you're supposed to defend lgbt Q.

993
00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: It just shows you the hypocrisy of the people in.

994
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 4: Yes, you use it as a pejorative, Brian, you use

995
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 4: it as a negative connotation.

996
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 2: So yes, you do, yes, you do wrong.

997
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,760
Speaker 3: I'll explain why, Alex. I'll explain why I don't attack

998
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 3: people for being gay. Never would you literally.

999
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 4: At Johnson right now, You're literally false accusing Benny Joson

1000
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 4: right now being gay.

1001
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 3: Why I attack people who are haters of gay, people

1002
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 3: who are afraid to come out of the closet themselves.

1003
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 3: There is a big distinction there. And yes, I do

1004
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:28,280
Speaker 3: believe there are people.

1005
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 4: He has a wife, in kids. How much straighter can

1006
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 4: he be? Does he have to have sex on camera?

1007
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean what. I don't understand what.

1008
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 4: It takes to pass your test of who is straight

1009
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 4: and who is gay?

1010
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 3: So wait, there are no married men out there in

1011
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 3: society that are gay.

1012
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,760
Speaker 4: Your course of course, But you don't have any evidence.

1013
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 4: Everybody's like Benny Johnson's gay. It's just not true. He's

1014
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:51,280
Speaker 4: not gay.

1015
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 2: And you know what, I'll just be honest.

1016
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 3: I think I have more evidence than you have that

1017
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty election was stolen.

1018
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 4: Oh my yeah, a bunch of fake rumors and bs.

1019
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,479
Speaker 4: I'm not even gonna play into that.

1020
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 2: But I want to talk about this though, because we

1021
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 2: only got you for a couple more minutes.

1022
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 4: You did say something in the break that I think

1023
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 4: was a very admirable transgenders, biological men competing against biological

1024
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 4: women in sports. I actually like that because I can

1025
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 4: gamble on the transgenders and win money, like I won

1026
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 4: so much money on Leah Thomas's propeller in the pool.

1027
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 4: I almost turned draft Kings in a draft queen. So

1028
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 4: I like the trans in women's sports. But you said

1029
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 4: that you don't like that, you don't think that that's fair.

1030
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 4: Is that a correct assessment?

1031
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 3: Not to quote Riley Gaines because I think she's a

1032
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 3: right wing grifter and despicable, But with that being said,

1033
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 3: I do agree with her on this topic. No, I

1034
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 3: think if you're born a man transition to a woman,

1035
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 3: you should not be competing against other women on the

1036
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 3: playing field. And by the way, most of the country degrees,

1037
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,720
Speaker 3: including Democrats, on that one. So yeah, I completely agree

1038
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 3: with that it's an unfair advantage and I've always been

1039
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 3: consistent on that point, and quite frankly, anybody on the

1040
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 3: left that disagrees with that is you're not very smart. Okay,

1041
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 3: this isn't about attacking trans people, which I would never do.

1042
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 3: I just think, you know, the Leah Thomases of the

1043
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 3: world and others. At the same time, when you have

1044
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 3: grifters like Riley Gaines, who have made millions of dollars

1045
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 3: making the same speech attacking transgenders. Yes, Riley, we get it.

1046
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 3: We don't want trans women playing against other women on

1047
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 3: the playing field. But she's turned it into a Fox

1048
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 3: News career and she attacks trans people twenty four to

1049
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 3: seven and has no idea what she's talking about when

1050
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 3: it comes to the issues, Alex.

1051
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 2: I think she has an a little bit of an idea.

1052
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 4: She lost her transgender I think she has a little

1053
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 4: bit of an idea. But I agree with you, it's

1054
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 4: an asymmetrical problem. It only affects women because we do

1055
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 4: not have women transitioning to men and beating men in

1056
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:40,240
Speaker 4: men's sports.

1057
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 2: So that's why I think, by the way to be

1058
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 2: okay with a serious.

1059
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,479
Speaker 3: Is I'll be okay with that if you can find

1060
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,439
Speaker 3: me someone born a woman transitioning to them.

1061
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 4: When we let that, a woman's allowed to be like

1062
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 4: college football, woman's allowed to play in the NFL if

1063
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 4: they can make it, so we actually allow that. So

1064
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 4: It just shows you that there is a physical advantage

1065
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 4: from men. Okay, Brian, this has been a great debate.

1066
00:47:58,239 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 4: I actually wish I would have yelled at you more.

1067
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 2: You're a nice guy. I like you.

1068
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 4: You're out in Las Vegas, you like to gamble, You're

1069
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 4: a little bit of a degenerate like myself.

1070
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 2: So we actually get along.

1071
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 4: But before we go, tell the people how can they

1072
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 4: find you?

1073
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 2: Well?

1074
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Speaker 3: First of all, Alex, thanks for having me on your show.

1075
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 3: I really enjoy talking to you and I feel the

1076
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 3: same way about you. So people can find me. First

1077
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 3: of all, my YouTube my show is called Pushing the Limits.

1078
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 3: The website's Pushing Thelimits dot live. The best two places

1079
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 3: to find me are on my YouTube page at PTL

1080
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 3: Radio Show and then on my Facebook fan page, which

1081
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 3: is growing by the day. Pushing the Limits at PTL

1082
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 3: Radio Show Facebook fan page. I'm on the air every

1083
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 3: day Monday through Friday noon to two pm PST. We

1084
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 3: go live on TikTok, we go live on YouTube, we

1085
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 3: go live on x We're live everywhere and on the radio.

1086
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Speaker 3: And I'll say it again, Alex, I appreciate you coming

1087
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 3: on or coming on my show, and I was happy

1088
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 3: to return the favor, and I look forward to you

1089
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 3: coming out to Vegas and hopefully we could prank the

1090
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,439
Speaker 3: assemblymen and the assembly women out here one of these days,

1091
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:55,439
Speaker 3: because that'd be a lot of fun.

1092
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 2: We will do that, and this is a call to action.

1093
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 4: I want all of you chat rat and Alextin fans

1094
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 4: to go on his page and make fun of Brian

1095
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 4: relentlessly and be rude. I don't even care. Yeah, please

1096
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 4: use slurs about his red hair and about how he

1097
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 4: doesn't like naked women. Please mention that a bunch. All right, guys,

1098
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 4: Well that's been after hours with Alex Stein. I know

1099
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 4: it's late, but this show is great. Give a shout

1100
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 4: out to Brian Shapiro for being fearless and never running

1101
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 4: away from a debate.

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Speaker 2: But I'm Primetime ninety nine, Alex eyn.

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00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 4: If there's somebody that wants to debate me, you have

1104
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 4: an open invitation on this show anytime, any topic. Let's

1105
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 4: get it on like Donkey Kong. We'll see you tomorrow night,

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Speaker 4: eleven pm Eastern.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Bye bye,