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Speaker 2: It is a fride day and we are loaded blazing

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Speaker 2: five off a winning week one. The Green Bay Packers

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Speaker 2: once again little sloppy, but put on a show last night, Jamak.

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Speaker 2: I had them number one in the Herd hierarchy. I

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Speaker 2: said it was the best team I saw in Week one,

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Speaker 2: and they have now totally shut down last season's number

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Speaker 1: So I mean they it jumps off of TV, does

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Speaker 1: it not? This team is good.

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Speaker 3: Essentially the first two games they gave up nothing, the

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Speaker 3: first three quarters nothing. The defense is that good. Michael

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Speaker 3: Parsons is unfreaking believable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's only playing sixty eight percent of the

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Speaker 1: So this I am absolutely sure of. As I start

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Speaker 1: team in the NFL. They're tight ends run, they're defensive

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Speaker 1: and the spacing and speed is on display. Last night

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Speaker 1: and it looked like it. I have not seen a

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Speaker 1: another wide receiver tight end group in the NFL that

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Speaker 1: alone makes ten million more than the entire wide receiver

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Speaker 1: also the power of patience that Green Bay is allowed

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Speaker 1: to have. They can draft Jordan Love and sit in

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Speaker 1: for three years because they don't have an owner, an

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Speaker 1: in free agency, like Micah, it's worth it. The other

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Speaker 1: thing I thought last night is, you know, people freak

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Speaker 1: out green Bay gave up two first round picks. You

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Speaker 1: tell me what do they need? They got their quarterback,

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Speaker 1: In the fourth quarter, they were totally dominating it. The

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Speaker 4: And obviously I think we got a really good offense

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Speaker 1: So I think it's ironic that the Miami Dolphins, previously

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Speaker 1: I've said this for years. I do think teams tend

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Speaker 5: A lot of it has to do with communication, what

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Speaker 1: J Mack with the news.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, the news.

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Speaker 6: This is the herdline news.

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Speaker 1: All right, Coln.

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Speaker 3: Let's start with a great matchup in Pittsburgh this weekend.

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Speaker 3: Seattle travels to Pittsburgh to face Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, a big narrative around, Hey, Rogers had four touchdowns,

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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers one win and now everybody it's kumbaya with that.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's be fair. Four touchdowns. It is interesting, though,

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Speaker 1: PFF ranked Aaron Rodgers fourth. I saw the number here.

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Speaker 1: First of all, their defense will be much better against Seattle.

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Speaker 3: I totally agree Colin and I actually think that we're

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Speaker 1: And that's because, well, we're in the golden age of

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Speaker 1: That's not even that's not even debatable. But my point

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Speaker 1: And go watch what they've looked like through three starts.

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Speaker 3: I'm actually more interested to see how Sam Darnold does

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Speaker 1: Think it's going to be a close twenty seventeen football game.

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Speaker 3: So but my thing about Donald, I know he's your

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Speaker 3: Remember you had Seattle? I think winning the division or

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Speaker 1: I have him as a wildcard team. I think he

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Speaker 1: They're going to play much better. They're at home, they

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Speaker 3: I totally agree. Let's go to Monday night football beat

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Speaker 6: I remember, Jim, no, I have no fun members. I'm good.

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Speaker 9: That's pretty well documented. And he was a great coach,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember when Harbaugh took a Stanford team into US.

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Speaker 1: Kyll theway Michigan State Michigan lost to app State September

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Speaker 1: two thousand and seven October Stanford USC. So they were

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Speaker 1: literally those are the two that year. You had two

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Speaker 1: of the biggest upsets I can ever remember in college

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Speaker 1: football that.

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Speaker 3: Kim believe that was eighteen years ago and you remembered it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I remember it scary and I remember

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Speaker 1: the app State Michigan game. I think there was a

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Speaker 1: field goal that played a part late in the game.

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Speaker 1: As a long time ago, but yeah, crazy year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't remember what I had for dinner Tuesday night.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go.

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Speaker 3: Final story is the New York Giants obviously were terrible

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Speaker 3: in Week one, could get no offense. Started with Russell

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Speaker 3: Wilson under center. Sunday on Fox, they faced the Cowboys,

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Speaker 3: and there's a lot of chatter about Jackson Dart, but

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Speaker 3: Russell Wilson is not phased. Here'says confidence level entering week two.

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Speaker 10: I think that you you embraced challenge. You know. I

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Speaker 10: don't think I've run from challenges. I don't think I've

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Speaker 10: run from you know anything. I know confident. I am

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Speaker 10: in myself, confident in the guys that we have. I

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Speaker 10: think for me personally, you know, my confidence never blinks,

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Speaker 10: you know. I just I've been through everything. You know,

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Speaker 10: I've been through all the biggest highs there could be.

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Speaker 10: I've been through a few lows. At the same time,

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Speaker 10: I also know that I'm my confidence never waivers.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I don't think he loses confidence. I think

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Speaker 1: what he's lost is elusiveness. And I think that was

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Speaker 1: the secret sauce. I mean, listen, Nolan Ryan could throw

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Speaker 1: a curve, but if his fastball got down to ninety two,

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Speaker 1: He's not Nolan Ryan like you know it didn't. But

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Speaker 1: that's the reality of what he is. Russell made a

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Speaker 1: living on being elusive, and when he lost that ability

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Speaker 1: to do that. He was never an elite pocket guy.

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Speaker 1: He was good at running around and good over the

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Speaker 1: top on those rainbow throws. But I mean, you and

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Speaker 1: I have talked about this. In my lifetime. I do

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Speaker 1: not remember a quarterback going from Pro Bowl to what

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Speaker 1: I viewed the last four years. It's not like he

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Speaker 1: doesn't work hard, but his game was so uniquely elusive.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't a burner. He just had this ability, like

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Speaker 1: a kid running through a mall around people like. He

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Speaker 1: had this ability to make people miss and then all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, now they don't miss, and there's not

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Speaker 1: a lot there because he's not a great pocket quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Right, two quick ones A, Is Russell Wilson a Hall

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Speaker 3: of Famer? No? No, I think it's so fine. If

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Speaker 3: Marshawn Lynch he actually carries the football and scores a touchdown,

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Speaker 3: he has.

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Speaker 1: Two Super Bowls? Is he a Hall of Famer? Then

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Speaker 1: you're asking me if he's a Hall of Famer. I

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Speaker 1: didn't say he wouldn't get votes. No, No, would you

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Speaker 1: vote in it. That's not no, I know, but I think,

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Speaker 1: but I think you can put him on a ballot.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but I don't think it is. I don't think.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, and then the second one. Will Jackson Dark

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Speaker 3: take a snap this week against Dallas Yesterda.

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Speaker 1: No, No, because I think it'll be a close game

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Speaker 1: and it's a division game, and I think you have

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Speaker 1: to you have to play that. You got to give Russell.

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Speaker 1: I think if they trail like fourteen nothing in half

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Speaker 1: and aren't moving the ball, yeah, I think you think

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Speaker 1: about it walking to the locker room. But I and

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Speaker 1: I said before, I think you got to play Jackson

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Speaker 1: Dart very soon. I think. I don't think Brian Dabole

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Speaker 1: wants to bail after six quarters, you know, so, I

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Speaker 1: think they'll give him eight corters.

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Speaker 2: Shart.

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Speaker 1: See where you're at, and you may not have a choice.

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Speaker 3: Colin Dables on the hot seat. How long you want

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Speaker 3: to wait before you, Hey, we got to get this

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Speaker 3: guy shot. I'm cooked if Russ keeps this up. I

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Speaker 3: like the Cowboys and Survivor this week. I know you're

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Speaker 3: not a huge Survivor player, but I think the Cowboys

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Speaker 3: are winning this game. I don't see them losing it

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Speaker 3: there in all my teasers. Is there any world where

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Speaker 3: the Giants win this colin?

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Speaker 1: That's funny. So my most assured pick in week one

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Speaker 1: almost backfired. Philadelphia I thought would beat Dallas. That was

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Speaker 1: a luck. So I can't use Philadelphia in week two.

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Speaker 1: Who would I use in that shirt? But I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: tell you something. Even by week two, it gets tricky.

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Speaker 1: It depends that Baltimore Ravens are favored by like twelve.

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Speaker 1: I would say Arizona. I'd use my Arizona pair, Arizona

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Speaker 1: at home against Carolina. If I was in a survival pool,

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Speaker 1: that would probably be my pick.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm in multiple and sometimes multiple entries, so yes,

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Speaker 3: that's another.

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Speaker 1: Pick of mine. Jmack with the news, Well that's the news,

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Speaker 1: and thanks for stopping by the herd Line News. So

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Speaker 1: I was saying this with the Packers, just trust your eyes.

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Speaker 1: That is the fastest team in the league. The Kansas

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Speaker 1: City Chiefs, trust your eyes. They're not a very good

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Speaker 1: offensive football team. The run game, below average, offensive line

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Speaker 1: well below average. If Xavier Worthy doesn't play, they don't

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Speaker 1: have a number one receiver, and if he does, he's

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Speaker 1: still not a number one receiver. He's more of a

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Speaker 1: gadget guy in a two. So the Chiefs offense since

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, this is hard to get your brain

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Speaker 1: around because it was so good early. The first five

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Speaker 1: or six years was so dynamic. But they're like middle

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Speaker 1: of the pack, twenty third in rushing, twenty seventh in

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Speaker 1: big plays, eighteen in red zone percentage. And that's with

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Speaker 1: Mahomes and Andy Reid. So if Mahomes and Andy Reid

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Speaker 1: can't do better than eighteenth in red zone efficiency, I

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Speaker 1: mean these are guys that dialed up Sky Moore in

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl to be wide open for touchdowns. So

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Speaker 1: I mean last year they were thirty first in the

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Speaker 1: NFL in big plays and they had the fewest rushes

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Speaker 1: of over ten yards. So it's one of those things.

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Speaker 1: I was joking this morning that I remember a show

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Speaker 1: came out called True Detective, and it had eight episodes

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Speaker 1: and there was twelve Emmy nominations, and it was just unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: It became my favorite show. Matthew McConaughey, Woody Harrelson, and

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Speaker 1: so I could not wait for year two and I

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Speaker 1: was just like, every episode has been unbelievable and by

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Speaker 1: the middle of the second episode of Year two, I

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Speaker 1: was like, yeah, it's not very good. I'm gonna trust

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Speaker 1: my instincts on TV viowy they not very good. And

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Speaker 1: I feel like with Kansas City, they had so many

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Speaker 1: big years that you just sort of like, yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: oh wow, they don't have any wow. There's there's not

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Speaker 1: a lot of wow there. They don't run the ball.

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Speaker 1: The old line is getting rebuilt again and yeah and again.

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Speaker 1: This is with the Reid Mahomes and a great GM

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Speaker 1: so they have they have hit on a lot of

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Speaker 1: defensive draft picks. But they may have the same name.

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Speaker 1: But true Detective Year two wasn't the same show, and

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Speaker 1: it may be the chiefs Mahomes and Reid, it is

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Speaker 1: not the same show. Here's Brady yesterday on Mahomes trying

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Speaker 1: to carry the load right now in KC.

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Speaker 8: When you control both sides of the line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 8: you have a huge opportunity for success, and it takes

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Speaker 8: someone like Patrick Mahomes to kind of have that Mahomes

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Speaker 8: magic and pull the rabbit out of his hat in

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Speaker 8: order to keep his team in the game. With the

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Speaker 8: rookie Simmons, with Sue Mattie who's in there is a

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Speaker 8: second round pick from last year, Creed Humphrey there and

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Speaker 8: and Tray Smith at right guard. They're they're set up

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Speaker 8: to have a pretty good offensive line as they gel

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Speaker 8: and grow together. So that will be great for Patrick

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Speaker 8: to feel like he has some confidence to stand back there.

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Speaker 1: But right now, when you watch them, trust your eyes.

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Speaker 1: He does not remember last year we talked about this.

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Speaker 1: Last year, Greg Cosell came on our show and I

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Speaker 1: asked Greg Cosell, I said, what is wrong with Kansas

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Speaker 1: City's offense? And do you remember what Greg Cosell? He

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Speaker 1: said it last year early in the season, week four

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Speaker 1: to five. He said, Patrick does not trust his own line.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't trust it. You can watch his feet. He

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Speaker 1: doesn't trust it. So am I supposed to believe After

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Speaker 1: getting blown out by the Eagles in the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: and getting beat by the Chargers and facing pressure, he

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Speaker 1: trusted now now that to Tom's point, he may trust

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Speaker 1: it in six weeks, but right now, trust what you're seeing.

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Speaker 1: There's no wow for an offense. That was the definition

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Speaker 1: of wow the first five years, six years of mahomes

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Speaker 1: blazing five top of the hour, it's the Hurt.

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Speaker 6: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 6: and noon Easter not a Empacific.

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Speaker 3: Play the Fox Super six NFL Challenge. Download the Fox

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Speaker 3: your share of ten thousand dollars. One of the questions

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Speaker 3: is which QB will have the most passing yards in

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Speaker 3: Week two? Mahomes, Dak Goff or Caleb Colin.

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Speaker 1: Who you got Jared Goff against the Bears?

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Speaker 3: Good answer, Yeah, Jared Bear's secondary is getting cooked.

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Speaker 1: Although I will say ceedee Lamb eats against the Giants.

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Speaker 1: He does, so. I've never bought into sophomore slumps. Mahomes

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Speaker 1: didn't have one, Peyton Manning was substantially better in year two,

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow didn't have one, Lamar Jackson didn't have one.

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen got better year one a year two. I

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Speaker 1: don't think Jayden Daniel is going to be a sophomore

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Speaker 1: slump guy because I think he has elements to his

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Speaker 1: personality and his makeup are that transcend slumps, IQ, maturity,

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Speaker 1: EQ poise. Those are slump proof power hitters in baseball,

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Speaker 1: they have slumps. Tony Gwinn hit four fifteen against Greg

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Speaker 1: Maddox contact hitters like Tony gwyn not rereally slumpy. Steph

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Speaker 1: Curry sixteen years in the league thirty nine percent to

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Speaker 1: forty four percent. He didn't have slump years. He may

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Speaker 1: have a bad half. So I think Washington last night

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Speaker 1: ran into a Green and White buzzsaw. It was a

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Speaker 1: short week, they were on the road. Green Bay's the

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Speaker 1: best team in the league. Green Bay's the fastest team

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Speaker 1: in the league, and Washington isn't. They have one receiver

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Speaker 1: that runs over nineteen miles an hour next gen stats.

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Speaker 1: Green Bay's got four and I think one of Green

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Speaker 1: Bay's most talented skilled players. Kraft is a kid. He'll

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Speaker 1: only get better and he's great now and golden out

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Speaker 1: of Texas. Again, it's his second NFL game, So they

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Speaker 1: were a short week on the road, old team against

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Speaker 1: the young team. I don't worry about Jayden Daniels at all.

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Speaker 1: I think he's magnificent and here he is after.

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Speaker 11: You got ten games on ten days to our next game.

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Speaker 11: So I didn't und to dwell about it. You know,

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Speaker 11: it's early in the season. I wouldn't expect them my

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Speaker 11: in this locker room to hit the panic button. We

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Speaker 11: placed we faced a really good team and we came

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Speaker 11: up short.

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Speaker 1: They've got a new left tackle, Deebo's new chest piece,

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Speaker 1: McLaurin got into camp late. So I think just watching

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Speaker 1: Green Bay, I mean Detroit was a bulldozing run game,

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Speaker 1: and last week against the Packers, they couldn't move the ball.

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Speaker 1: So you see this sometimes where like you just see

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Speaker 1: a team. I mean, wait till Mike is playing ninety

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Speaker 1: percent of the snaps. I mean Micah played forty eight

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Speaker 1: percent last week. He played sixty eight percent last night.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you watched these highlights were showing you on television.

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Speaker 1: Cream Bay's closing speed is everywhere and there, and you know,

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Speaker 1: the faster we are, the more aggressive you are. The

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Speaker 1: Packers are super aggressive, and I just don't think Washington

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Speaker 1: knew what they were in for. So I saw this

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Speaker 1: fifteen years ago. I was doing this show on radio,

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Speaker 1: and I made a pivot. So I was at the

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Speaker 1: into my career at the other place, and I was

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Speaker 1: in the gym, and after my workout, I ran into

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Speaker 1: a senior manager at the other place and we were

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Speaker 1: talking about we both liked business and kind of the

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Speaker 1: architecture of radio and TV, and we were talking about

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes boring stuff and it wasn't boring to us.

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Speaker 1: And that person said at ESPN, I would never say

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Speaker 1: this out loud, but baseball's a regional and local sport,

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Speaker 1: and he said it's hard to do as a national

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Speaker 1: network because people in New York don't really necessarily care

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Speaker 1: about the a's of the Mariners, and people in Seattle

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Speaker 1: don't care about the Texas Rangers or the Rays. But

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Speaker 1: a Seahawks fan would watch the Buccaneers, and a Charger

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Speaker 1: fan would absolutely watch the Vikings. But would a Podrey

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Speaker 1: fan care about the Twins. It's a local, regional sport.

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Speaker 1: And so at that time I made a pivot that

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Speaker 1: I was going to talk about pro football about seventy

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Speaker 1: percent of my show, which seems crazy, but I always

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Speaker 1: argued that if I was in London doing a show,

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Speaker 1: seventy five percent of my show would be the English

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Speaker 1: Premier League. If I was in Canada, I'd have to

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Speaker 1: leave because seventy five percent of my show would have

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Speaker 1: to be hockey. So I would I would move somewhere,

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Speaker 1: no disrespect. They go to Canada every other summer, So

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Speaker 1: I just saw the numbers for the NFL right now,

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Speaker 1: and the reality is NFL Week one viewership is off

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Speaker 1: to a massive start. And I think what's happening. As

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Speaker 1: the platforms have increased in America, there's just more places,

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Speaker 1: more streaming outlets, more TikTok as it's gotten wider. There

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Speaker 1: is only one thing in this country that transcends all

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Speaker 1: of it and can get people away from their phones.

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Speaker 1: It's politics and presidential election years every four years. That'll

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Speaker 1: get people off their phones. And it's the NFL, not

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Speaker 1: even sports. The NFL top one hundred shows last year,

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Speaker 1: ninety four were football. So I I just it's funny

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Speaker 1: I hear all these discussions. This cracks me up. Hey,

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Speaker 1: let's do a red zone in baseball. We could do

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Speaker 1: a red zone in college football, do a red zone

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Speaker 1: in hockey. You do get what makes the red zone great.

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Speaker 1: It's not the name red zone. And I love Scott Hansen,

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Speaker 1: but it's not the host. It's the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: It works because of the NFL, regardless of the host,

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Speaker 1: and he's terrific, and regardless of the name, the red

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Speaker 1: zone works because of the NFL. It's not gonna work

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Speaker 1: for any other sport, so you can try it, but

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Speaker 1: there's an urgent to it. And it was funny this

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Speaker 1: week Adam Silver, who I think is really good at

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Speaker 1: what he does, Adam Silver admitted he said, we're kind

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Speaker 1: of a highlight league. People watch us in highlights, and

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Speaker 1: David Stern, before his death privately would tell people, listen,

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Speaker 1: people watch us in the playoffs, but mostly they watch

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Speaker 1: our highlights because NBA players are such great athletes. The

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Speaker 1: highlights are so much fun to watch. But the only sport,

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Speaker 1: according to every piece of data, that we really sit down,

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Speaker 1: get off our phones and watch is Sunday in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: That's it. And this weekend Eagles Chiefs. From what I'm

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Speaker 1: hearing on Fox, we think it's going to set an

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Speaker 1: NFL potential NFL playoff record if it's close. I do

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Speaker 1: think it's close. I think the Chiefs got so humiliated

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Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl that I think there's going to

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Speaker 1: be so much pride and so much resilience, and the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs have too many smart people in the building and

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Speaker 1: they have a very good defense. I think it's going

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Speaker 1: to be a pretty low scoring game, and I think

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Speaker 1: Kansas City's go to keep it close. But you know,

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia is so good on third down and so good

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Speaker 1: on fourth down. You're gonna have those circumstantial situational plays

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Speaker 1: in the game that I think just Philadelphia is so

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Speaker 1: good at They're gonna get the fourth down, They're gonna

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Speaker 1: pick up the red zone first down, and Kansas City

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Speaker 1: is struggling with that. But I do think it's a

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Speaker 1: close game. But week one of the NFL viewership unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: I have blazing five at the top of the hour,

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Speaker 1: J Max got his picks? Is there? I want to

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Speaker 1: put up the schedule because I always ask you this,

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Speaker 1: J Mack. We have an upset in every week now.

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Speaker 1: Last week Tennessee almost upset Denver, and last week Dallas,

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Speaker 1: if not for the Ceedee Lamb drop, almost upset Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: So last week it was a lot of favorites. There

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Speaker 1: were close games, but it wasn't the massive upset. Is

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Speaker 1: there anything in this schedule? So Green Bay was a

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Speaker 1: favorite last night and they housed Washington. I think you

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Speaker 1: and I believe, I think both of us believe. With

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Speaker 1: Brock Purty out, the Saints have a chance at home

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Speaker 1: to beat San Francisco. Is at fair You don't think so.

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Speaker 3: I'm on Niners there. I basically bet three games pretty

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Speaker 3: heavily this week Texans Monday Night Football, Detroit Lions against

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Speaker 3: your Bears, and then the one underdog. We both like

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Speaker 3: Tennessee Titans getting six and five and a half based

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Speaker 3: on the Rams injury report. The Titans defense, which I

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Speaker 3: like a lot, and I think we agree cam Wards

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Speaker 3: showed much better than the final stat line. I think

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Speaker 3: his receivers had four or five drops, and I think

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Speaker 3: there could be a letdown for the Rams they have.

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Speaker 3: I believe it's the Eagles on deck next week, or

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Speaker 3: they have a tough opponent next week.

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Speaker 6: I like the.

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Speaker 3: Titans as a dog that could win out right.

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Speaker 1: By the way, what do you make a Raiders? Chargers?

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Speaker 1: Raiders at home, Chargers from Brazil, Chargers still, you know

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Speaker 1: they'll have some questions on that old line.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna rock with the Chargers on the road. My

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Speaker 3: brother will be at that game. Invited me, but I

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Speaker 3: was like, listen, I got this little show to do

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Speaker 3: called the Herd. You know Jeffrey, so I can't quite

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Speaker 3: make it, but he'll be in Vegas for that one.

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Speaker 3: Should be a good game.

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Speaker 1: I like Chargers, Yeah, yeah, it's yeah, there's you know

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Speaker 1: what's interesting. The Raiders and the Jags pulled off wins

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Speaker 1: in Week one, and so do you trust the Raiders?

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Speaker 1: Do you trust the Jags? It's you know, like I

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Speaker 1: think like certain things that we saw in week one

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Speaker 1: will not be true. Like the Steelers defense is not

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Speaker 1: that bad. They got new pieces here, older players by

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Speaker 1: the way they brought in, don't play in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers defense is not going to look like that

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Speaker 1: going forward. I am mischell. I don't think justin Fields

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Speaker 1: is going to look like that going forward. Like certain

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Speaker 1: things I think are true that I think you can

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Speaker 1: take certain things like Green Bay. They're really fast, They're

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Speaker 1: really aggressive, they have a ton of speed. That is

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Speaker 1: a fact. Detroit their coaching is not as good as

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Speaker 1: last year, that is a fact. Pittsburgh's defense will not

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Speaker 1: look like that this week or going forward. It won't

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Speaker 1: look that pathetic.

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Speaker 3: How about the Colts and Steichen and Daniel Jones? Will

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Speaker 3: they look that good against Denver? I've been looking at

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Speaker 3: that game a lot. Colin here that blazing five, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's in my blazing five.

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's be honest, Miami, and I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you can quit, but defensively Miami felt like they quit.

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Speaker 1: Not offensively, but you're gonna go from the most disorganized

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Speaker 1: defense in the league. In Week one, Daniel Jones and

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Speaker 1: the Colts faced to I think easily the best pass

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Speaker 1: rush in the league. And by the way, as Sean

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Speaker 1: Paige Noahs said, the best time to coach a team

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Speaker 1: is when you play like crap and win, he goes,

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Speaker 1: you can ride your players. That next week, Denver played

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Speaker 1: poorly and won. Yeah, so watch watch Denver come out

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Speaker 1: on fire. I'm gonna tell you that pass rush it

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Speaker 1: is a sea of orange.

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Speaker 3: We like a lot of the same games this week,

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Speaker 3: I think Blazing five next to Herd