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Speaker 1: What are the Rockies doing?

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Speaker 2: So, as you may remember, a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 2: we talked a little bit about the Pirates, uh after

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Speaker 2: into question once again, as that question probably comes up

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Speaker 2: every single year for Pirates fans, what are we doing?

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Speaker 1: But fortunately we know now what it is.

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Speaker 2: So I decided to do the same, the same breakdown

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Speaker 2: or something similar for.

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Speaker 1: The Colorado Rockies because they are bad. They're really, really,

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Speaker 1: really bad, and I feel for him.

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Speaker 2: I know some of the guys on the team. You know,

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Speaker 2: I've been on really bad teams before, but my god,

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Speaker 2: they're they're really really bad. So let's talk a little

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Speaker 2: bit about how bad that this team is. The Colorado

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Speaker 2: Rockies are currently nine and forty four. If you stretch

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Speaker 2: that out for the rest of the season, they will

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Speaker 2: end twenty eight to one hundred and thirty four, which

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Speaker 2: will be the worst record in the history of modern baseball,

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Speaker 2: but kind of a lot, and it will break a

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Speaker 2: record that was set last year, so at least it's

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Speaker 2: not a long standing record.

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Speaker 1: But if they continue the way that they are continuing.

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Speaker 2: It is it is. I there's a lot to go through.

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Speaker 2: Let's just get into it. I don't even I can't even.

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Speaker 2: I can't even set this up. It's so bad, all right,

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Speaker 2: So basically I went and I found my ten. Like

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Speaker 2: most unbelievable elements or statistics about this season so far,

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Speaker 2: they kind of tell you what level.

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Speaker 1: Of bad we are at, because there's always bad teams.

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Speaker 2: It's spaseball, right. Sometimes you have your team gets hurt.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes your whole team gets hurt and you're running out

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Speaker 2: the triple A team. Like, a lot of these things happen.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes people pack it in. Sometimes there's scandals, you know,

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Speaker 2: there's all kinds of things going in. None of that

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Speaker 2: seems to be the issue. They haven't lost a ton

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Speaker 2: of people except for Chris Bryant, but I'll be honest,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you can count on him at

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Speaker 2: any for anything at this point. So let's talk about

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Speaker 2: statistically how bad that they truly are. Number One, as

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Speaker 2: a team, they have a negative three point eight b war,

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Speaker 2: which means Baseball Reference thinks that if they just put

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Speaker 2: replacement level, if they can replace their entire team with

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Speaker 2: replacement level players, they would win more games. What that

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Speaker 2: is hard to do? That is so hard to do.

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Speaker 2: I believe there's been thirty nine players that have played

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Speaker 2: have It's not necessarily a lot of a ton of injuries.

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Speaker 2: There's been some injuries, but there's been also a lot

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Speaker 2: of just turnover from they have a lot of young

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Speaker 2: of the thirty nine players that have appeared in the game,

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Speaker 2: only ten have a positive war. There's only ten guys

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Speaker 2: who appeared in the game, one quarter having a positive

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Speaker 2: impact on their ability to win game in a war way.

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Speaker 1: So I'm using B war.

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Speaker 2: If you guys remember we talked about war like six

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Speaker 2: seven weeks ago and the difference of differences between fangrafts

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Speaker 2: war and Baseball reference. War is baseball reference, War is

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Speaker 2: results based. Fangraphs is predictive. So we use B war

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Speaker 2: because it's the war that they have earned so far

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Speaker 2: that has happened. So I try to go with that

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Speaker 2: when we're talking about things that are happening regular staying

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Speaker 1: Same war category.

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Speaker 2: The guy leading their team in war is this gentleman,

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Speaker 2: Jake Bird. He is a one point four war but

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Speaker 2: he is a middle reliever you know how hard it

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Speaker 1: Let me put this in perspective for you.

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Speaker 2: The highest war pretty much any middle reliever will have

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Speaker 2: all year. It will be like a two and a half. Okay,

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Speaker 2: every team's third outfielder on a solid team.

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Speaker 1: Has more than a two and a half wor.

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Speaker 2: So, it's like that's like a that's like a utility

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Speaker 1: Like that is yikes. That's a yikes. That's a big yikes.

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Speaker 2: But hey, shout out to my boy bird getting the

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Speaker 1: If you go look at stats fact.

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Speaker 2: Number four, they have a negative one hundred and seventy

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Speaker 2: one run differential meeting the other team has scored one

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Speaker 2: hundred and seventy one more runs than them. That's last

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Speaker 2: in the MLB by seventy six runs. Twenty ninth is

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Speaker 1: At negative ninety five. That's a whole mess in its own.

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Speaker 2: They have seventy six less runs than that, and they

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Speaker 2: So you tough let's let's I'll give you some perspective

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Speaker 2: that puts them on pace for negative five hundred and

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Speaker 2: the thirty two Red Sox by one hundred and seventy

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Speaker 2: seven runs. So they would just break it by like

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Speaker 2: thirty percent. It's almost as if It's almost as if

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Speaker 2: there was like juice balls and everyone broke the home

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Speaker 2: just their their poor play, which is rough. It's rough

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Speaker 2: out here, and let's see some f's up in the

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Speaker 2: chat for that.

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Speaker 1: That's not great.

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Speaker 2: Number six starters have a seven point three one RARA combined,

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Speaker 2: So we are almost two months of the YEA and

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Speaker 2: they have over a seven as a as a staff.

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Speaker 1: Shay, it was three hundred and eight home runs.

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Speaker 2: By the way, starters have not done very well, though

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Speaker 2: a couple of them have thrown a little bit better recently.

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Speaker 1: That's got to get.

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Speaker 2: Better, and that is a major reason why they are

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Speaker 2: losing so many games. Manager Bud Black was fired on

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Speaker 2: May eleventh when the team was seven and thirty three.

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Speaker 2: They are now two and eleven since, so problem not solved.

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Speaker 2: But Bud Black was the manager there for nine years

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Speaker 2: and he went through a lot of these these stretches.

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Speaker 2: But sometimes the stretch is just too bad to defend.

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Speaker 1: All right. Number eight.

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Speaker 2: As a team, they have a ninety seventy six fielder percentage,

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Speaker 2: which is horrendous.

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Speaker 1: That's really really bad.

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Speaker 2: That's they fields ninety seven point six percent of balls cleanly,

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Speaker 2: which is thirtieth in the MLB by like I think

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Speaker 2: like like three percent or something like some crazy high number.

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Speaker 2: So not three percent, that's that would put them over

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Speaker 2: one hundred zero point three percent. So not not as

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Speaker 1: Last two Doozies.

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Speaker 2: They have been shut out eight times this season in

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Speaker 2: fifteen point one percent of games total, so one of

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Speaker 2: every six games they don't score any runs. Yanks, And

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Speaker 2: they have been swept eight times out of seventeen series

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Speaker 2: guess the question I have to pose, because this happens

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Speaker 2: gonna sweep someone. Who do you think they're gonna sweep?

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Speaker 2: My guess is the Dodgers I bet you they sweep

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Speaker 2: the Dodgers at least once.

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Speaker 1: At least once. Yikes.

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Speaker 2: But I want to know what you guys think, Well,

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Speaker 2: what do you guys need to.

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Speaker 1: Who do you think they're going to be.

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Speaker 2: In in their first series? Who's gonna be the first

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Speaker 2: one that loses the series to them? It's got to

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Speaker 2: be soon, right, It's got to be. So a couple

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Speaker 2: of caveats. I don't want to I want to point

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Speaker 2: this up. This is gonna be really important to know.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of like I don't want to say misinformation,

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Speaker 2: but there's a lot of like wrong information about how

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Speaker 1: In how the altitude change is pitching.

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Speaker 2: It really really affects pitching a lot, like from a

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Speaker 2: physics scientific standpoint, it does.

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Speaker 1: This is going to be important in a minute.

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Speaker 2: So I remember my data from pitching in Colorado. I

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Speaker 2: was averaging sixteen point five inches of vertical like ride

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Speaker 2: on my fastball. In that outing it was twelve point

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Speaker 2: it just gravity takes the ball more. The sweeper also

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Speaker 2: it just turns into a curve ball. It's kind of dumpy,

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Speaker 2: though you still get a lot of depth. Sweepers don't

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Speaker 1: Old school gyro slider. It's pretty close.

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Speaker 2: You lose a little bit of moot depth, but not

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Speaker 2: it's hard to pitch there no matter what stuff you have,

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Speaker 2: it's hard to pitch there. But the Rockies have a

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Speaker 2: problem outside of like not understanding this stuff, they don't

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Speaker 1: So let's talk a little bit about this.

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Speaker 2: Ooh, we have some breaking news really quick before we

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Speaker 2: move on. Chris Taylor is signed with the Angels and

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Speaker 2: will be their center field in center field for them.

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Speaker 1: Tonight against Yankees. So congratulates to Chris tail.

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Speaker 2: Taylor picked back up for all you fantasy heads out there,

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Speaker 2: all right back to it. So they're bad they're bad,

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Speaker 2: and we know they're bad, and the altitude affects it.

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Speaker 1: And it's sad they gotten so bad though, that.

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Speaker 2: The team's actually getting sued by a fan partially because

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Speaker 2: they're so bad.

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Speaker 1: So let me tell you a little bit about that.

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Speaker 2: The Rockies are being suits for being so awful that

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Speaker 2: they cause injuries. Now that's a little bit of a

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Speaker 2: clickbait title. That's not the main thing being positive at them.

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Speaker 2: But as of May twenty fifth, this is yesterday two

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Speaker 2: to five. Timothy Rocal, a Colorado Rockies fan, has filed

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Speaker 2: a lawsuit against the team following a severe injury he's

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Speaker 2: sustained during a game at Course Field in July twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three. Rochel was attending the game in a luxury

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Speaker 2: by a foul ball, resulting in what he describes as

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Speaker 1: Is he I hope you can see.

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Speaker 2: The circumstances, He basically said, because of the way the

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Speaker 2: so you can tell if there.

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Speaker 1: Was a ball coming.

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Speaker 2: So you couldn't be aware, Okay, So like because you're

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Speaker 2: having suites just outside the fence of like a high

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Speaker 2: which you are technically close enough to get hit. So

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Speaker 2: you got to know about that stuff. That's valid in

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Speaker 2: my opinion. There's also it also asserts that the Rockies

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Speaker 2: failed to extend productive netting AQUADU adequately, as required by

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Speaker 2: all Major League ballparks, So they're thinking that it had

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Speaker 2: gotten in the suite and this wouldn't have been a problem.

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Speaker 2: But the last thing that was positive in this lawsuit

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Speaker 2: was the claim that the Rockies prolonged poor on field

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Speaker 2: So imagine being so bad that you're getting sued. Can't

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Speaker 2: And just like the Pittsburgh Pirates, it all starts, well,

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Speaker 1: That's their park. It's beautiful, isn't it. It's beautiful park.

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Speaker 1: Most of the time. We'll talk about why maybe not this.

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Speaker 2: Mister Monfort had three of the first six seasons where

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Speaker 2: He has only had three different gms in those twenty years.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, Bud Black was the manager for nine years.

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Speaker 2: When you're like, I don't want to tell you they

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Speaker 1: The same people made decisions.

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Speaker 2: They kept getting new players and never changed the people

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Speaker 1: You got to learn.

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Speaker 2: And if the people around you don't aren't very good

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Speaker 2: It's just the way it is, all right. So let's

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Speaker 1: Dig Monfort, what kind of owner is he? Well, you

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Speaker 2: He is someone who inherited his money from his parents

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Speaker 2: He is, I've heard that about it. He loves being around.

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Speaker 2: He is in view, he is. He is approachable, which

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Speaker 1: And he is loyal.

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Speaker 2: I like those two things. At least from a human standpoint.

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Speaker 1: So I will give him his do accolades for that.

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Speaker 2: They should be inventing new types of equipment to play there.

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Speaker 1: They should be doing that. Instead, they're just like the.

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Speaker 2: He's an inherited owner who does not make fast decisions,

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Speaker 1: They just tend to not be great sports owners. And

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Speaker 1: I think he's proved that. And they are. They are loyal,

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Speaker 2: Once again, only three gms in twenty years, they should

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Speaker 2: They should be not letting a manager.

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Speaker 1: Should not be able to stick around.

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Speaker 2: For nine years and have a four forty winning percentage

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Speaker 2: in and does that, or or that's it. That's really

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Speaker 2: it. It starts at the top of the pyramid. It starts

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Speaker 2: to be able to do that, and Dick Montfort has

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Speaker 2: not shown that he has the ability to do that.

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Speaker 2: So that is what it is, and there's that's where

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Speaker 1: It's unfortunate, but it is the world we live in.

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Speaker 2: And that is what I believe is wrong with the Rockies,

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Speaker 2: and it's I don't really see a lie at the

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Speaker 1: Look you mean