1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to I've never said this before with me, 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: Tommy di Dario, My millennial heart is burst because I 3 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: was such a huge fan of the TV show The 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: Simple Life. My cousin and I would watch a show religiously. 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: That's how I became a Para Sultan fan. So to 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: fast forward all these years. 7 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 2: Later and have her on my show, oh god, it 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 2: is such a cool thing. 9 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: Para Sultan has arguably been one of the most talked 10 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: about celebrities in the world for decades. But now she 11 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: is telling her story and she is sitting down with 12 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: me for a very personal and very vulnerable conversation. Her 13 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: new documentary is called Infinite Icon, a visual memoir, and 14 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: it drops in theaters January thirtieth. So this traces her 15 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 1: music journey from her child to dreams, to her club 16 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: going adolescence to making music of her own. She tells 17 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: me how music literally saved her life following her abuse 18 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: in Troubled teen treatments and by the media in the 19 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: early two thousands. It was such a different time. This 20 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: is a conversation where you're gonna get to know the 21 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: real Paris Hultan. And a big shout out to my 22 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: personal sponsor for this episode, NDI, who creates the most 23 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: realistic and gorgeous faux floral arrangements. I just got one 24 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: from my dining room table and it is stunning. So 25 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: instead of spending tons of money on fresh flowers every week, 26 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: I now have a centerpiece that will last me for 27 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: years to come. And they arrived in perfect condition. I 28 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: am obsessed with this company. You can check them out 29 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: at NDI dot com. All right, let's see if today 30 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: we can get Paris to say something that she has 31 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: never said before. 32 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 2: Paris Hiltan, how are you, my friend? 33 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 3: Amazing? 34 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: I'm so excited you're here. I am so excited you're here. 35 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: So this is the final day of my thirties and 36 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: I told my best friend that you were coming in today, 37 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: and he's like, I can't think of a more iconic 38 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,559 Speaker 1: way to spend your last day. 39 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: In your thirties. 40 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 3: That's so iconic. 41 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: It's so iconic. 42 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 3: Look twenty one forever? 43 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: Can you never stop saying that to me? Like, just 44 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: please say that every day? But you're so hot? 45 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: Thank you. No, No, I'm gonna blush now, I'm gonna blush. 46 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 2: It's not about me. Stop stop. Oh my god, I'm 47 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: literally having like a hot flush now. Okay, so Paris Hilton, 48 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 2: are we gonna get anything done today? Probably not. 49 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: I feel like we're kindred spirits because in my day 50 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: I've been in New York for a while now, I 51 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: was such a club kid and like I had the 52 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: rotation of like Marquis Bungalow home stereo bed, like all 53 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: of it. 54 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 3: So good. 55 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 2: Did you do the New York scene too? 56 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 3: Definitely? Yeah, I lived for it. There was nothing like it, No, 57 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 3: especially back in the day before social media, like rum 58 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 3: Tonight life. I know, it was so much fun. Just 59 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 3: every night there was like somewhere to go and just 60 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 3: like the vibes energy here just it really like shaped 61 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 3: me in so many ways, like to who I am today, 62 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 3: just growing up in New York, especially as a teenager 63 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 3: as well. 64 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and music is so important to you. We learn 65 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: a lot about your journey in this new documentary, which 66 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: we're going to dive into. But I think to begin 67 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: what I love about you so much as you're somebody 68 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: who has turned so many people under estimating you into 69 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 1: a multi billion dollar empire, right, So was a part 70 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: of you along the way motivated by wanting to prove 71 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: people wrong or was it just survival or what was it? 72 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 3: I think that it's definitely something that's in my DNA, 73 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 3: And you know, growing up in my family, it was 74 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 3: a lot to live up to. But I didn't want 75 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 3: to be known as the Hilton Hotel granddaughter. I wanted 76 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 3: to be known as Paris. So I always wanted to 77 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 3: make my family proud, and I always love to be creative, 78 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 3: and yeah, I was just something that I've wanted to do, 79 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 3: Like I've one of these people who just wanted to 80 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 3: do it all. And I'm so proud of what I've created. 81 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 3: And you know, it's just been an amazing journey and 82 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 3: I've been through so much and it's just amazing just 83 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 3: to have this film now, especially just to like look 84 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 3: back on my whole life and just see what a 85 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 3: journey it's been and just just be sitting here today 86 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 3: is a wife and a mom, an advocate, all the 87 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 3: things I do. It's just I feel very lucky. 88 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: And every piece led you to this moment, right, the good, 89 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: the bad, all of it. And it's kind of like 90 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: what I would imagine was a big starting point for 91 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,679 Speaker 1: you was the simple life. And I grew up loving 92 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: it and watching it, and my cousin Joey and I 93 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: were obsessed with the show, and it was it was 94 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: the start of reality, like you were doing reality before 95 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: reality TV was cool, right like it was. It was 96 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: something you were pioneering. How much of that show was 97 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: truly real and how much of it was zach because 98 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: you see more and more come out, like Laguna Beach 99 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: ended up being the big reveal. 100 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: It's acting. Was that the case with The Simple Life. 101 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 3: You know, it was so new there was not really 102 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 3: a blueprint or anyone for us to like look on 103 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 3: to before us, because we were like the first of 104 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 3: its kind. And the producers said, you know, Nicole, you 105 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 3: be the troublemaker of Paris. You know, you play in 106 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,239 Speaker 3: the kind of this spoiled airhead. So I was playing 107 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 3: a character the whole time. But it wasn't scripted because 108 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 3: they literally, the producers, the camera people, like they were 109 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 3: told like, don't interact with them. If Paris and Nicole 110 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 3: try to ask for help or anything, just ignore them. 111 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 3: So we were on our own there. So every day 112 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 3: it was just like a new adventure. And Nicole and 113 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 3: I were best friends since we're two, so we've been 114 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 3: silly like that our whole lives. So it was just 115 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 3: so much fun, like putting us in these situations in 116 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 3: places that you know, we'd never experienced before. And that 117 00:05:55,440 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 3: show was just such an iconic show and it's so timeless, 118 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 3: and I love that it brings so much happiness to 119 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 3: people all around the world for so many years. And 120 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 3: another thing that my mom, my sister, my team, everyone 121 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 3: was like, Paris, don't do it. This is like reality, 122 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 3: Like I wouldn't do it, and everyone was trying to 123 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,559 Speaker 3: convince me not to do it, but I didn't listen. 124 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 3: And I'm so happy that I didn't. 125 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 2: Wow, something inside you knew it would. 126 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 3: Be good new And then right when it aired, my 127 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 3: mom called me and she's like, Paris, I'm never wrong 128 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 3: about anything, but I'll admit I was wrong about this. Like, 129 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 3: I'm so proud of you and Nicole. You're both so hilarious. 130 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 3: The show is incredible. So I'm happy that I followed 131 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 3: my instincts. 132 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it really it changed your whole life, right, 133 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: And as much as it brought so much goodness into 134 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: your world, it did also put you in a box, right, 135 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: And I feel like you had to prove yourself in 136 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: who you were from that point forward even more. Was 137 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 1: there a moment where you thought, oh, man, like I 138 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: feel misunderstood. I feel like the world's not totally getting me. 139 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: You remember a moment. 140 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, so many moments, you know, because inside me there 141 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 3: was just so much more. But I think that everyone 142 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 3: just saw me as that character because that's how the 143 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 3: world got to know me. And I also played into 144 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 3: it even more, which I didn't even realize till later on, 145 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 3: as like a trauma response from everything that I went through. 146 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 3: So I think it was like also a mask to 147 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 3: just protect myself and just experiencing that level of fame 148 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 3: at such a young age is very overwhelming. And just 149 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 3: to have the whole world, you know, watching picking me apart, 150 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 3: just like it was very difficult. So I think having 151 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 3: that character it really it saved me from a lot 152 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 3: of pain because when people would be mean or say 153 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 3: things like, I'd be like, oh, it's not me, it's 154 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 3: just the character. So it was it was very difficult 155 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 3: at times, but I'm also grateful for the character because 156 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 3: it brought a lot of happiness to so many people. 157 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and we see you talk about this an 158 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: infinite icon. The early two thousands, and I think a 159 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: lot of us remember it. 160 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 2: It was vicious. 161 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: I mean, being in entertainment journalism, I can't even imagine 162 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: saying the things that so many of these outlets said 163 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: to women. And you tackle that head on in this documentary. 164 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: So what would you say to that Paris from the 165 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: early two thousands about what she was about to face 166 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: and about what she was going to have to overcome? 167 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just back then, it was just entertainment 168 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 3: to tear down women, and it was very isolating because 169 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 3: not many people would even understand how it was to 170 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 3: be treated that way, and it was just so normalized 171 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 3: where it was just like a normal thing that they 172 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 3: would do. And if I were to go back and 173 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 3: speak to my younger self, I would say, Paris, You're 174 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 3: going to go through a lot in life, and sometimes 175 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 3: it's going to be so difficult and scary and hard, 176 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 3: and it's going to be a lot, but I promise 177 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 3: you one day it'll be worth it, because you're going 178 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 3: to inspire millions of people. You're going to create a blueprint. 179 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 3: You are going to turn your pain into your purpose 180 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 3: and help save the lives of children and women and 181 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 3: survivors all around the world. And also don't be afraid 182 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 3: to tell or to show the world the real you. 183 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 2: Mmmm oh, I love that. 184 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 3: I wish I would have done that sooner. 185 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 2: You have a lot of strength thought. 186 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 3: I've been through it all so much, so I feel 187 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 3: like when you can survive the two thousands and everything 188 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,119 Speaker 3: I went through as a teenager and those horrible schools, 189 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 3: like I could make it through anything. 190 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, And so many women went through that in the 191 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 1: two thousands, and I see overall is better today, much better. 192 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 1: But I do see glimpses of it today, which really 193 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: pisses me off. Whether it's an actress, you know, some 194 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: very good friends of mine who their weights being picked apart, 195 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 1: or you know, recently Milli Milli from Stranger Things, people 196 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: were ripping her apart on her appearance in the last season, 197 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: and I'm like, guys, we have to do better, Like 198 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: what are we doing? 199 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 3: It's just horrible. You know, it has changed so much, 200 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 3: but then there still is those people who just can't 201 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 3: help themselves, and I just feel like they're not happy 202 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 3: with themselves if they're gonna, you know, tear down these 203 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 3: young women. And that's why I continue to use my 204 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 3: voice to make a difference and to point that out 205 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,719 Speaker 3: to others. Yeah, and hopefully things will change the more 206 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 3: people do that. And have so much respect for Millie. 207 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 3: I love her so much. We text all the time. 208 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 3: She is so brilliant, such a strong girl, and I'm 209 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 3: just so impressed with her in every way and feel 210 00:10:58,440 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 3: so proud of her. I told her right when I 211 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 3: that she stuck up for herself. I was like, wow, Like, 212 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 3: I wish I could have done that back in the day. 213 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 3: I think that it's so incredible how strong and mature 214 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 3: you are, and the fact that you speak out against this, 215 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 3: I think is incredible. And I was really proud of her. 216 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 217 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: Well, I think it's nice that she has someone like 218 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: you as almost a mentor to look up to. Right 219 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,599 Speaker 1: Like you said you were the blueprint for all of this, 220 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: and look at you standing feet firmly on the ground 221 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 1: achieving your wildest dreams, which. 222 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 2: Is so cool. 223 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: Do you talk to a lot of the women from 224 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: the early two thousands or have you over the years 225 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: about the shared trauma you went through, Like have you 226 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: and anyone have you and Brittany or anyone been like 227 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: that really sucked and we went through some bullshit Yeah, 228 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 1: I was. 229 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 3: Just with Brittany a few weeks ago for her birthday 230 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 3: in Mexico and we were just talking about it, just 231 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 3: like how just cruel and just mean spirited people were 232 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 3: back then, and just I feel like she's someone obviously 233 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 3: that can relate to that, and there's very few people 234 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 3: that you could relate to on that level of experiencing that. 235 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 3: But again, it's made us both so strong. 236 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: So from that Paris from the early two thousands to now, 237 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: what are you the most proud of in terms of 238 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: what you've proven to the world and proven to yourself. 239 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 3: I'm so proud of everything, you know, just to be 240 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 3: underestimated for so long and now for the world to 241 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 3: see the real me and to see how strong and 242 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 3: resilient I am, and how I was always so ahead 243 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 3: of my time, and just to be doing all my 244 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 3: advocacy work and changing twenty state laws and passing two 245 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 3: federal bills to protect children and just everything with my family, 246 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 3: my babies, all my businesses, my media company. It's just 247 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 3: been an amazing adventure and it's just been such a 248 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 3: journey of also self discovery these past years since my 249 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 3: first documentary, And yeah, I just feel like I'm in 250 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 3: the best place of my life and I am just 251 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 3: thank God every day. 252 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people have over the 253 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: years underestimated how intentional your persona has been. Right, this 254 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: character you created, and there's a lot of brilliance behind it. 255 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: I mean, look at what you've turned it into. Do 256 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: you feel like you, in many ways have been able 257 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: to guide public image of you in a way. 258 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 2: That protects you. 259 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel you know, the character was definitely a 260 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 3: protection just from going through a lot of traumatic experiences 261 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 3: and then wanting to kind of create this kind of 262 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 3: fantasy Barbie do all perfect life and then ended up 263 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 3: becoming on a reality show that I had to continue 264 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 3: season after season, and the whole world just assumed that 265 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 3: that was all there was to me, and there was 266 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 3: always so much more. I just wasn't ready to show 267 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 3: the world yet. And it's just been amazing since I've 268 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 3: told my truth and I've been authentic and show that 269 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 3: I'm not a dumb blonde. I'm just very good at 270 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 3: pretending to be one. 271 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: It's amazing what you've created. And I loved this documentary 272 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: Infinite Icon, because it really celebrates music, which I know 273 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: has saved your life, and we dive into seeing you 274 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: perform in your element on that stage and learning more 275 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: about you. I would be remissed if I didn't bring 276 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: up Stars Are Blind. The song that took over the 277 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: world was that like two thousand and. 278 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 3: Six, Yes, June two thousand and six. 279 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: June two thousand and six. It had over one hundred 280 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: and thirty million streams up to this point. I mean, 281 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: people cannot get enough of the song. The label didn't 282 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: want you to release it. You wanted to release it. 283 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: What does the song mean to you today? 284 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 3: It means so much to me. That song is such 285 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 3: a huge part of my life and changed my life 286 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 3: in so many ways. And I remember just being in 287 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 3: the studio and recording it and I was like, there 288 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 3: is something so special about this song. And I recorded 289 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 3: a lot of songs for the album, and the label 290 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 3: wanted me to go with another song called Turn It Up, 291 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 3: which I love too, But I said to them, I 292 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 3: think this is so expected, Like I feel like Stars 293 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 3: Are Blind needs to be the lead single. It's like 294 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 3: just has this vibe and energy and I know it's 295 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 3: going to be like a timeless and iconic song. And 296 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 3: they listened to me, and I was right again. So 297 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 3: it just makes me happy to see, like when I 298 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 3: go with my heart, it's it's always right. I love 299 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 3: the fact that that song brings so much happiness to people. 300 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 3: I've had so many people come up saying that's a 301 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 3: song they played at their wedding and they're walking down 302 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 3: the aisle, or it's just like been their favorite song 303 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 3: and it's just another thing where it just like brings 304 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 3: joy and light and happiness to the world. 305 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: Have you ever heard from anybody surprising that was like 306 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: I love that song? 307 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 3: Who people have said it to me? I'll never forget. 308 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 3: I was in London and I was presenting at the 309 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 3: brit Awards and there's just all these people around and 310 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 3: I felt someone like going like this on my shoulder. 311 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 3: But I was doing an interview, like so many people 312 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 3: were coming up, and then the person in front of 313 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 3: me was like, it's Madonna, and I was like what. 314 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 3: I turned around and I'm like hi, And I don't 315 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 3: get starstruck because I have met everyone, but she's like 316 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 3: been my idol and icon forever and I just released 317 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 3: the album and she said Paris grew on the same label, 318 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 3: and I just want to tell you I listened to 319 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 3: your album and it's incredible and just was so nice 320 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 3: and sweet, and I just like at that moment, was like, 321 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 3: this is the coolest thing ever that like my icon 322 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 3: forever is saying this to me to be seen by Madonna. 323 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 2: I mean, come on, how good did that feel? 324 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 3: The best feeling ever? 325 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: That's amazing. It's amazing. And now you're back at it 326 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: with music with Infinite Icon. What kinds of things are 327 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: you talking about now that maybe you felt like back 328 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: then you couldn't or didn't have permission to talk about. 329 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,239 Speaker 3: I feel like my first album was like very of 330 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 3: its time, and just like how I felt at that moment, 331 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 3: it was all just about like clubbing and having fun. 332 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 3: It was like very flirty and just very y two 333 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 3: K vibes. And with Infinite Icon, it's just so much deeper, 334 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 3: just like having been through so much in life and 335 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 3: learning so much about myself, and I just wanted the 336 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 3: songs to be empowering and inspiring and just make people 337 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 3: feel seen and celebrated and yeah, it's just been such 338 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 3: a journey. So I was like wanted to really include 339 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 3: that in the whole album, and especially having Cia as 340 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 3: my executive producer, like that just took it to the 341 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 3: next level. 342 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: That's so iconic, Seeya, I mean, see, yeah, yeah, she's 343 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: working on this album with you. What do you think 344 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 1: she sees in you and your music that maybe other 345 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: people in the industry have it. 346 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 3: She is my fairy godmother, and I'm so grateful to 347 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,719 Speaker 3: her because I wouldn't have done this album unless she 348 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 3: had said what she said to me, which was on 349 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 3: Year's Eve, Miley Cyrus asked me to come and sing 350 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 3: Stars Are Blind with her and Sea and surprise everyone. 351 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 3: So we did it. And then the next day we 352 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 3: were flying home on a plane together and Cea looked 353 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 3: at me and was like, why have you not released 354 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 3: another album? You were incredible last night. You were born 355 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 3: to be a pop star. I told her, because I'm 356 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 3: doing a million other things. She's like, well, what if 357 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,959 Speaker 3: I was executive producer and wrote the album with you? 358 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 3: And like, for her to believe in me made me 359 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 3: believe in myself again. M M. 360 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: Sometimes it takes one person to see you right, and 361 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: she did, she really. 362 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 3: Did, and she just being with her at her house 363 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 3: and her studio and singing in front of her. I 364 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 3: was so nervous the first time, but she brought something 365 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,239 Speaker 3: out in me that I didn't even know I had 366 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 3: it myself. It was just like transformational. And she's such 367 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 3: an amazing friend, a sister everything. I love and adore 368 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 3: her so much, and she'll just always be my guardian angel. 369 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: So do you think Sia gave you confidence again to 370 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: believe in yourself as a singer? 371 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 3: Definitely, just because also in the two thousands, like you 372 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 3: were just expected to be one thing and people were like, oh, 373 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 3: she's a socialite, party girl, reality star, so doing an album, 374 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 3: people were already back then going to prejudge it. So 375 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 3: I just felt, you know, it was just like unfinished business. 376 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 3: It was like my dream since I was a little girl. 377 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 3: But just like doing it in the two thousands, it 378 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 3: was just I don't know, it was just so difficult 379 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 3: plause everything was controlled by the media and there was 380 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 3: no social media, so you couldn't hear what the fans 381 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 3: really thought about it. So now just all the time 382 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 3: to hear from so many of the fans just like 383 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 3: how much that first album meant to them, and just 384 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 3: like hearing how my fans actually felt has just been 385 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 3: so healing for me in so many ways as well. 386 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 2: In Infinite Icon. 387 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: Was there a scene that was emotional for you to 388 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: put in that you were kind of like, oh, man, 389 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to, but it's necessary. 390 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,719 Speaker 3: I think just the scenes when I was, you know, 391 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,719 Speaker 3: showing up to the venue and I was so nervous. 392 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 3: I was literally in tears. I'd not slept all night. 393 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 3: I was just so scared because I had, you know, 394 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 3: never had a concert like this before. And I don't know, 395 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 3: I feel like but I wanted this documentary to be real. 396 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 3: So even though probably years ago, I would have been like, no, 397 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 3: don't film this, like I don't want this in there, 398 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 3: I think it's important to show people that it's normal 399 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 3: to get nervous. You shouldn't not go for your dreams 400 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 3: in life, because if you're nervous, it just means that 401 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 3: you really care. Yeah, So I hope to inspire others 402 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 3: that it's okay, like life isn't perfect, and like you're 403 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 3: gonna get nervous and sometimes you may cry, but if 404 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 3: it's your dream, go for it, and I promise you 405 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 3: it'll be worth it. 406 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, Because like. 407 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 3: Looking back on it, I'm like, oh my god, I 408 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 3: was so nervous. But then when I went up there, 409 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 3: all the nervousness went away because I was just so 410 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 3: happy looking in the audience, seeing all my fans and 411 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 3: everyone's singing and just crying and dancing and just so 412 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 3: happy and just feeling like this energy in the room 413 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 3: that was like indescribable, so much love, and I'm like, 414 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 3: this is the reason I do what I do. And 415 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,959 Speaker 3: it just made me feel so much stronger. And now 416 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 3: when I go out there, I'm like not nervous at all. 417 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: Well, you are where you're meant to be. Yeah, right, 418 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's all the stars align and you're 419 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: supposed to be doing what you're doing. It's what feels 420 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 1: right inside of you and to so many people, which. 421 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 2: Is really cool. 422 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: I was struck by the balance and this documentary of 423 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: the celebration of you performing and seeing you in your element, 424 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: but then you also doing very candid interviews, you know 425 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: about tough things, the Trouble Team program and the sex tape. 426 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: I mean, does it get easier talking about that. 427 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 3: It's you know, just going through those experiences were so 428 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 3: incredibly traumatic and painful and just so many just emotions, humiliations, 429 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 3: feeling so ashamed for so many years and you know, 430 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 3: to be vilified as well for things that people have 431 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 3: done for me. And I was speaking with another survivor 432 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 3: about it, and she was like, we shouldn't be ashamed 433 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 3: the people who should be ashamed of the people who 434 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 3: heard us. I think that was another message that I 435 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 3: wanted to tell people, because I feel like when we're 436 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 3: heard in life, it's something that we hold on to, 437 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,959 Speaker 3: when it shouldn't be us being ashamed of it. It 438 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 3: should be these people and they should be held accountable 439 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 3: for what they did. And I know that so many 440 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 3: other people have went through the same experiences as myself, 441 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 3: and I've spoken to so many people around the world 442 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 3: who've been to these schools who've had people take advantage 443 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 3: of them and you know, put out something that was 444 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 3: supposed to be private. And it's just been amazing since 445 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 3: I've started telling my truth, to be able to actually 446 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 3: change laws to protect others from happening like that, I 447 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 3: think is the most empowering and iconic thing that you 448 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 3: can do, like really turning a horrible experience in your 449 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 3: life into something where it won't be able to happen 450 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 3: to others or again for others to not feel alone 451 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 3: because it can feel so like lonely going through something 452 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 3: like that. Actually back then, when no one would even 453 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 3: talk about things like that or talk about mental health, 454 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 3: and especially with these schools, to have went through that 455 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 3: and to now know that it's turned into a twenty 456 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 3: eight billion dollar a year industry and there's thousands of 457 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 3: these schools and one hundred and fifty thousand children are 458 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 3: sent to these places every single year. Hundreds of children 459 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 3: have died in these places, getting abused in every single way, 460 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 3: and nobody has ever believed them. And you know, it 461 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 3: wasn't until I told my story that this whole movement 462 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 3: has started, and hundreds of thousands of survivors have came 463 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 3: forward and told their stories. And that's what I'm out 464 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 3: of everything I do. It makes me the most proud 465 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 3: of that work every day as people come up to 466 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 3: me and just say thank you so much, like you 467 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 3: telling your story saved my life and I'm finally being believed, 468 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 3: or it's healed my family and I or I was 469 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 3: going to send my child to one of these places, 470 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 3: but then I saw you speaking in Congress, and I 471 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 3: didn't send my child there, And you saved my daughter 472 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 3: from going through trauma and torture, because that's what happens 473 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 3: in these places. So to be the hero that I 474 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 3: needed when I was a little girl is just everything 475 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 3: to me. 476 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: I have a very good friend Robin Roberts on Good 477 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: Morning America, and she says, make your mess your message, 478 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: And you've done that, and you've done that in a 479 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: way that puts yourself out there to be very exposed, 480 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: but you did it for the better to help people 481 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: going through the same thing and to not feel shame. 482 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 2: And I am a huge proponent. 483 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,479 Speaker 1: Of mental health, and I've lost friends to struggles with 484 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 1: mental health, and I think it's so important to talk 485 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: about things that make people feel less alone. And the 486 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: fact that you do that to me is one of 487 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: the most unbelievable things anybody can do. And I truly 488 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: think more than you know, you're helping people in the 489 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: biggest ways possible. So it's really cool, cool, And I 490 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: also admire your strength because forgiveness is very hard. It's 491 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: a journey for many people. And I imagine the people 492 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: who did this to you and that program, it's been 493 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: a journey dealing with how you forgive them or not. 494 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: I imagine the person who released a sex tape it's been 495 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: a journey. 496 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 2: How do you forgive? Have you forgiven? Those people? 497 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 3: Well? I love Robin too. I actually ran into her 498 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 3: as we were leaving the last cent of year to 499 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 3: come here, and she was saying the kindest things to me, 500 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 3: So she is incredible. I think those things are unforgivable. 501 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 3: I just try to be strong and move forward and 502 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 3: speak my truth so that others don't have to experience 503 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 3: what I did. But just the things that have happened 504 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 3: to me are just so just horrible and so wrong 505 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 3: in so many ways, and it just really is heartbreaking 506 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 3: that there's people like that in the world and they'll 507 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 3: get their. 508 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 2: Karma, Karma's reel, Karma's reel, and you. 509 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: Haven't let this stop you from being what you're meant 510 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: to be, which is amazing because people try to take 511 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: that from you, and no one's taken it from you, 512 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: and that is a message and inspiration to many people. 513 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 3: Yes, I hope that by telling my story it gives 514 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 3: other people hope and that other people's definitions of them 515 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 3: or what they think of them doesn't define who they are. 516 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 3: And it is possible to take control of your story 517 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 3: and your narrative and your happiness because life is an 518 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 3: amazing thing and you shouldn't let what people have done 519 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 3: to you affect how your whole future is going to be. 520 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 3: You can use it to make a difference for other people. 521 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: I would say that's a really important message of your documentary. 522 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: There's many messages after watching it. There's some beautiful, hopeful ones, 523 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 1: there's some fun ones, there's some light ones. What do 524 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 1: you hope people feel when they walk away from Infinite Icon. 525 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 3: I hope that they see the heart behind everything that 526 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 3: I do. I hope my fans see just how much 527 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 3: their love has carried me through so much, and how 528 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 3: grateful I am to them and how much I love them. 529 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 3: And I hope it people can know that they can 530 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 3: reclaim their happiness and that no matter what you go 531 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 3: through in life, that there is hope at the end 532 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 3: of the tunnel. And for people just to have fun. 533 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 3: Feels like you're at my concert just the way it 534 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 3: was filmed, and these were made for the big screen 535 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 3: for like the four x theaters, so it's like immersive 536 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 3: and like it's like a wrap around screen and you 537 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 3: could feel like you're in the concert. So anyone who 538 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 3: didn't make it to one of my shows yet can 539 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 3: feel like they're at a show and just everything that 540 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 3: I'm doing. I've lived such a full life, and yes 541 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 3: there's the emotional parts, but there's so many incredible parts too, 542 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 3: and it's just I think it's really fun to see. 543 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 3: And I feel like some of my fans have grown 544 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 3: up with me for so long that a lot of 545 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 3: them didn't know the full stories. I feel like with this, 546 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 3: they're really going to get to know me on such 547 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 3: a deeper level. Man. 548 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: I can't wait for the day when you're two kids, 549 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: because they're very young, but one day they're going to 550 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: realize what a superhero their mom is, and that's going 551 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: to be pretty bad us. How has being a mom 552 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: changed the way you view ambition and fame and everything 553 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: this whole world you're in. 554 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:45,479 Speaker 3: It's just really just shifted my priorities. Like they are 555 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 3: my number one. They always come first my world. They're 556 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 3: two little angels, my best friends. We have so much 557 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 3: fun together. I'm such a kid at heart, so I 558 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 3: love going to toy stores and Disneyland kids and just 559 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 3: hanging out with them, cooking with them, playing in the 560 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 3: backyard of the puppies. They just bring like a new 561 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 3: meaning to everything in life. And not only was I 562 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 3: born to be a pop star, I was born to 563 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 3: be a mom. And I just feel so lucky to 564 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 3: be their mom. And I just want to really help 565 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 3: build a world and you know, a future where they're 566 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 3: going to feel safe and loved and yeah, just let 567 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 3: them shine and be whatever they want to be in life. 568 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 3: And I just can't wait to be the best mom ever, pop. 569 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 2: Star mom advocate. You said twenty. 570 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: Bills, two bills, two. 571 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 3: Federal bills, and almost twenty state laws. 572 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 2: Twenty state laws. That's unbelievable. 573 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: You were just in DC again, Yes, that is incredible 574 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: doing advocacy work and fighting for I believe this was 575 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: AI this time. 576 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 2: Right. Do you feel like you're heard? 577 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 1: You're finally being heard in the space. 578 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 3: I really am. I've been going to DC for the 579 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 3: past five years doing my adcacy work. I've met with 580 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 3: every senator, legislator, and every time I go back now, 581 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 3: they're always like, when are you going to run for president? 582 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 3: Like we want to be a part of this, We 583 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 3: will support you in anything like Paris. You have passed 584 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 3: more bills and most of our government, and they're always 585 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 3: coming with me with other bills like will you come 586 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 3: and support this so you shine such a light. And 587 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 3: that's just been amazing just to like feel so much 588 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 3: love and respect from everyone out there. And it was 589 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 3: so important that I went there last week just because 590 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 3: you know, it's so scary what's happening with AI. And 591 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 3: when I was nineteen and you know that happened to 592 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 3: me with the video, there was no laws to protect me, 593 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 3: and there was no words for even you know, what 594 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 3: I had went through. And you know, everyone said it 595 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 3: was a skin handle, but it wasn't. This was abuse. 596 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 3: And today, if it happened, he would be in jail. 597 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 3: And you know, now with AI, you don't even have 598 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 3: to know the person. They could just have a photo 599 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 3: of you. And you know, they're creating these explicit videos 600 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 3: and pictures of these girls who are in middle school, 601 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 3: and it's just it's terrifying, especially being a mom with 602 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 3: a daughter. I can't imagine if that happened to her. 603 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 3: So I want to do everything in my power to 604 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 3: make laws so this will be illegal and so that 605 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 3: victims will be able to sue either the platforms or 606 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 3: you know, the individuals who are making these images, and 607 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 3: you know, have there be right now, there's like if 608 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 3: that you do it, there's nothing to protect anyone. So 609 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 3: by passing this law, it would be such a huge 610 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 3: win for victims and survivors everywhere. 611 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: Well, if anyone can do it, it's you. Oh, thank you, 612 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: it's you. And I can't wait to see what happens. 613 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: It's important work. We need this. You're one of the 614 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: few people out there with the platform you have doing it. 615 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: So it's it's quite impressive. It really really is. I 616 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: feel like your life. You have your memoir, and it's there, 617 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: it is, and it's it's such a it's made for 618 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: the screen. Right, and Ellen Dakota Fanning are adapting it 619 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: into a TV show, Right, what's the latest? Are you 620 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: hands on? Are you a part of it? 621 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, I'm very hands on because this is my 622 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 3: life story. I'm so proud to be doing it with 623 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 3: A twenty four and Ellen Dakota. I love them both 624 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 3: so much. They're so kind and sweet. And I've actually 625 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 3: known them because I met them years ago on the 626 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 3: set of Cat and the Hat and Dakota was like 627 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 3: like six years old or something. So it's just a 628 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 3: full circle moment to be doing this project with them 629 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 3: and just been going back and forth with the writer 630 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 3: on just all the scripts, getting everything ready and then 631 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 3: do casting and get the show out. 632 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 2: How do you cast yourself? That is tough. 633 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 3: A lot of people keep saying like, you need to 634 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 3: play yourself, like you look exactly the same. 635 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 1: Maybe you will, We'll see what happens. 636 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 2: Okay, never say never. You have the acting chops. 637 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 3: Thank you. 638 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: You could do it. You could totally do it. You 639 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: are known Paris. I could talk to you forever. I'm 640 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: in awe of everything you've created and built and of 641 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: everything you stand for. And I love this show because 642 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 1: I cover a lot of red carpets, and I do 643 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: a lot of work for Extra and other companies. And 644 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: the interviews are always so quick, and you have two 645 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: minutes with somebody right and their sound bite driven, and 646 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 1: you end up saying the same thing to every outlet 647 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: because everybody wants that bite. So I left one day 648 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: being like I want to people on and have real 649 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 1: conversation and give you guys a chance to say things 650 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: that you don't always get to say. And that's why 651 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: the name of the show is I've never said this before. 652 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: So I wrap up every interview by asking the same question, 653 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: which is which is? What is one thing you've never 654 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 1: said before? Now you've been so open and honest, you 655 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: have documentaries. I don't know how you're going to answer this, 656 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: but is there something you don't always get the chance 657 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: to say that you wanted to say today? 658 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 3: I haven't talked about this, but I've been having so 659 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 3: many dreams lately with my grandmother coming in. She passed 660 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 3: away from breast cancer when she was sixty three, and 661 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 3: she was incredible, like she was so close. She's so strong, 662 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,879 Speaker 3: it's like lit up every room she walked into. Really 663 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 3: always gave me so much confidence, Like ever since I 664 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 3: was too she would always call me like Marilyn Monroe 665 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 3: or Grace Kelly. And I remember when I was a 666 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,439 Speaker 3: little girl, I was like four or five years old, 667 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 3: she went and saw a psychic and the psychic told her, 668 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,760 Speaker 3: your granddaughter of Paris one day is going to be 669 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 3: one of the most holy summertime. And one time she 670 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 3: went to a psychic when I was like four or 671 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 3: five years old, and the psychic said, your granddaughter of 672 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 3: Paris one day is going to be one of the 673 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 3: most famous and photographed women in the world. And my 674 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 3: grandma told me that, and back then I was so little, 675 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 3: like I didn't even know what that meant. But I 676 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 3: feel like she's always up there and she's watching and 677 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 3: like making so many things happen, and you know, just 678 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 3: going through so much in my life. And when I 679 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 3: lost her, it was like right when all that started happening. 680 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 3: And I feel like she would always like come to 681 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 3: me in dreams and I would always pray to her, 682 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 3: and I feel like she helped me manifest so much 683 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 3: of this and always gave me so much strength and 684 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,800 Speaker 3: just the confidence to go for my dreams. And like recently, 685 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 3: she's been coming back so often. And even like last 686 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 3: night I was I'm staying at the water for Astoria. 687 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 3: I was in the room and my dog like keeps 688 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 3: like there's no one there, like keeps going in the 689 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 3: closet like barking, then like looking like the living room, 690 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 3: and it is like looking at something and barking, and 691 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 3: like I keep in my mind saying like it's Grandma. 692 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,439 Speaker 3: So I feel like it's her like telling me that. 693 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,399 Speaker 3: So it's just I don't know, just like I never 694 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 3: talked about that before. But I love you, Grandma. I 695 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 3: know you're probably here watching. Oh so yeah. I feel 696 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 3: just so grateful to her because she shaped who I 697 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 3: am so much, just growing up with her, and I 698 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 3: lived with her for a year before I moved to 699 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 3: New York City in ninth grade. I lived with her 700 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 3: in Palm Springs for a year and we just became 701 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 3: even more close, And just losing her was so so hard. 702 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 3: My mom had always talk about She's like, I wish 703 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 3: my mom was here to see everything. She would be 704 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 3: so proud. So I always just think about her and 705 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 3: I missed her so much. 706 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 1: Unless she's always with you, and signs are always there 707 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: if we look for them, right, I do, I believe 708 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,760 Speaker 1: at one hundred percent. Well, Paris, I am so happy 709 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 1: and even though I just met you, proud of you 710 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 1: for all of your success and Infinite Icon is truly 711 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: a beautiful, beautiful piece of your life that the world 712 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 1: gets to enjoy and experience and come together in theaters 713 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 1: on January thirtieth and watch on the big screen. And 714 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: I hope you take this moment for you. I hope you. 715 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 1: It's so easy on the hamster wheel of life to 716 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,399 Speaker 1: be like, Okay, it's not next, we'll have to do next. 717 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: But I hope you're really taking this and being present 718 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 1: because it is, as you say, a final piece in 719 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: the trilogy of what you've been trying to put out 720 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 1: about your life, and here it is. 721 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 3: Thank you. I had so much fun doing this and 722 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 3: you are a beautiful person, insider out and I'm so 723 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 3: happy that we met. And I can't wait wait to 724 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 3: be friends with you too. 725 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I can't. I mean we might have 726 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 2: to go to Marquis Yeah. Is Marquie still around? 727 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, they just renovated. It's sick. 728 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: Don't tell me that we're going to be going to 729 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 1: Marquis Paris until the next time. 730 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, thank you. 731 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: I've Never Said This Before is hosted by Me Tommy Dedario. 732 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: This podcast is executive produced by Andrew Piglisi at iHeartRadio 733 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: and by Me Tommy, with editing by Joshua Colaudney. I've 734 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 1: Never Said This Before is part of the Elvis Duran 735 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 1: podcast network on iHeart Podcasts. 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