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Speaker 1: Late fifteen to ten touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Bocom in to Chargers Weekly. We are presented by Splittero.

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Speaker 2: The finale here in Indy is always joined by the

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Speaker 2: voice of the Chargers, Matt Muddy Smith Money, we did it.

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Speaker 3: Three more to go. Yeah, I'm gonna be a good

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Speaker 3: day too. With Bucky and Field and Mina close it

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Speaker 3: out strong and a little bit of everything, you know,

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Speaker 3: Mina kind of with that AFC West perspective, and Field,

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Speaker 3: who can take us deep into prospects as anybody. And

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Speaker 3: of course Bucky who I worked with for a while,

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Speaker 3: I was a scout himself. You heard about it, Yes,

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Speaker 3: I heard the podcast coming. It's coming here in a second.

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Speaker 3: But Bucky a former scout for two different teams, So

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Speaker 3: a nice variety of people. And look, I think ultimately

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Speaker 3: on our way out of here, I think we feel

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Speaker 3: having talked to you know, and next week you hear

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Speaker 3: from Chad Alexander, but having talked to Georgie's on the

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Speaker 3: team side, DJ to some degree on the team side

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Speaker 3: as well, a little bit more of a charge lean

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Speaker 3: with him. I think it's it's quite apparent. The next

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Speaker 3: two weeks, with free agency starting on March eleventh, gonna

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Speaker 3: be incredibly important and will help bring kind of what

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Speaker 3: we're talking about all week here and in these next

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Speaker 3: three interviews into focus. What can they accomplish there with

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Speaker 3: their own free agents and with some of the external

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Speaker 3: free agents they may have their eyes on. We'll certainly dictate,

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Speaker 3: they're gonna set for the draft.

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Speaker 2: So coming up Meta Chimes Field Yates. But first our

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Speaker 2: friend Bucky Brooks. Buddy, why don't you introduce our next

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Speaker 2: guests far of the program. Yeah, Bucky and I go

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Speaker 2: way back. We did one of the first NFL podcasts. Oh,

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Speaker 2: the Draft Tracker podcast.

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Speaker 4: Who came up with with that jr?

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Speaker 3: Name Mark Brady? Maybe Tracker Draft Tracker podcast? If it

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Speaker 3: was will of fortune, too many viols, too many vowels

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Speaker 3: remember Denzel Paraman came man, he took off his shirt

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Speaker 3: and I was like, damn, longer than biceps. We had

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Speaker 3: We had Pat McAfee before that McAfee joined us here

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Speaker 3: in Indianapolis. Bucky and I also did just the two

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Speaker 3: people would stream the show, I think it was you know,

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Speaker 4: You to come find you.

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Speaker 3: And perhaps one of the finest moments we ever had

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Speaker 3: wearing a very similar outfit to what he was wearing

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Speaker 5: The fur oh Man, Sam Montgomery ran to forty and

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Speaker 6: Fully sweating yep, fully big wool collar and a members

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Speaker 3: It was like you know when you see like Instagram

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Speaker 3: what it was like for Bucky when he's like, and

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Speaker 5: And money and money, he's poking the bear because it's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a good time. Man.

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Speaker 3: We had Pat McAfee on and right after he got

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Speaker 3: You're a kind of guy man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Bucky, you were not expecting the first five bits

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Speaker 5: I love it though, but look, I'm more excited to

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Speaker 4: What do you think I mean?

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Speaker 2: The off season has already been active, bringing in Mike McDaniel,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but look, I'm just excited like the prospect of

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Speaker 5: Jim Harbar bringing in Mike McDaniel what he brings as

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just Bucky share with the people. I mean, you're

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Speaker 5: I think he's a guy that in college he was

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Speaker 5: Look, I think when you have so much money in

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Speaker 4: So now when we go to the draft, we can freely.

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Speaker 5: Just pick the best players regardless of the position to

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Speaker 2: It seems like a transition now with the Chiefs, I'm

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the Wicked Witch is dead, right, that's what we're saying,

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Speaker 5: Like the Can't City Chiefs, that's yeah, they're gone. The

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Speaker 5: know what that looks like in two games. You build

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Speaker 5: win a division. But now it's about making sure and

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Speaker 5: I would say for the Charges, making sure that those

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Speaker 3: Yeah's you know, you win eleven games in back to

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Speaker 5: He is everything, man, he will he be there though,

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Speaker 5: is that the twenty two It'll be tough because Baltimore

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's a talented player.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, like I mean, you go have some opportunities

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Speaker 5: I'll say about Mike me Darren and is offense like

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Speaker 4: And it'll be.

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Speaker 5: Interesting the conversation that they have between Harboro and those

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Speaker 4: Are more gap scheme oriented.

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Speaker 5: McDaniels has been in his own scheme previously in San Francisco,

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Speaker 5: but he's learned how to utilize some of the gap

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Speaker 5: I look at the edges, the edges are super athletic,

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Speaker 2: You know, defensively, with Jesse leaving, there's some question marks

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Speaker 2: You still have impact guys like Berwin and Deyon Henley.

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Speaker 5: Well, you have to have edges and Oway came in

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Speaker 5: and I think that's kind of like the model you want.

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Speaker 5: Athleticism coming off to the defense won't change much. Obviously, new

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Speaker 5: I think they've been so good for so long. Why

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Speaker 5: get the interior rush going. But look, I think they

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Speaker 5: the vowels. Yeah, he's coming on, He's coming on. So

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Speaker 5: And then it's about continuing to add to the secondary

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Speaker 5: because the one thing that the Charge is being great

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Speaker 5: this league the transformation where we went from being super

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Speaker 5: where we're bringing forward but you don't know where the

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Speaker 5: I respect the Charge continue to do that, but to

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Speaker 3: All right, Bucky, you were scout, you are ten some

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Speaker 3: so they're sticking and picking. I'll throw a few names

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Speaker 3: say is there, great athlete you got? You know what

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Speaker 3: I'll put. I'll put Caleb Banks. He's still there. No

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Speaker 3: one is there. One is there, but some defensive players

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Speaker 4: I'll say.

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Speaker 5: Kayler Banks is the guy who has the biggest upside

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Speaker 5: he has disrupted up the point of attack. He has size,

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Speaker 4: Great athlete.

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Speaker 5: You know he's still trying to kind of find his

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Speaker 5: But the tools are there for him to be a really,

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Speaker 5: really good player. When you're sitting at twenty two, you

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Speaker 5: they'll talk about, hey man, they're eighteen to twenty two

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Speaker 4: But some of that is dependent upon fit in scheme.

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Speaker 3: Would you go over? Sorry, Chris, would you go? Would

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Speaker 5: I would say I would go guard because what I

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Speaker 5: the guys that we're talking about a defensive tackle, they're

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Speaker 5: more run stuffers than pass rusher. So the defensive tackle

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Speaker 2: Bucky, last one for me. This is just one part

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Speaker 2: Any any players you're looking forward to seeing working out

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Speaker 5: Well, now this would be a non charges dependent thing.

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Speaker 5: But I got Look, everyone loves to come to the

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Speaker 1: Me.

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Speaker 5: We want to see the guys that are going to

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Speaker 5: Wardle Street is both of those guys are gonna be impressive.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna do it.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 5: Then I'll give you another one. I'll give you Safety Thineman. Oh,

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Speaker 5: he's on sneak. Now he could be the guy that

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Speaker 5: And if he does that with what he's put on tape,

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Speaker 5: a guy who people are talking about as a friends

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Speaker 3: Yeah, talke about him last week we did all right, man,

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Speaker 3: what's up with the Highlanders?

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Speaker 4: What do we got?

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Speaker 3: What are we looking at this year?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 5: We're just just trying to be like a service academy,

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Speaker 4: Like, but no, it's gonna be fine, man, Like I mean,

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Speaker 5: We switched from whatever more single wingy, letting the people

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Speaker 4: But looks fun. It's fun. And you guys know, man,

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Speaker 5: High school football, it's the best. It doesn't get better

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Speaker 5: than the best, man, it doesn't get better. I know,

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Speaker 5: like Texas and Florida. They have their own things, but

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Speaker 5: Cala Friday night Friday night lights. That's great, exactly right,

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Speaker 5: lovely man, Thank you very much. Thanks appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Right, the great Field Yates joins us here on Chargers Weekly,

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Speaker 2: and Field you are a busy man.

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Speaker 4: I want to get right to it. I looked at

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Speaker 4: your mock draft. This would police Chargers fans.

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Speaker 2: You get that Penn State Guard at twenty two overall, Yoanna,

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Speaker 2: is he gonna be there?

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Speaker 1: He might be, Yeah, there's a chance. He was just

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Speaker 1: a remarkably steady product prospect this past year. Vanga Yoanne

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Speaker 1: Didn't allow a sack the past two seasons. So pretty

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Speaker 1: sit there and like you could talk about positional value,

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Speaker 1: you're saying to yourself, like, it's pretty hard to imagine

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Speaker 1: Chargers as well, and like a lot of teams around

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Speaker 4: They able to defend.

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Speaker 1: They are a difficult commodity to track down right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Chargers fans certainly know it. With our fifth and

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Speaker 3: probably a good idea with Khalil, and even if they

441
00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,960
Speaker 3: bring back Khalil in O way, just kind of the

442
00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,120
Speaker 3: rest of the Guard market if they decide to go, like, hey,

443
00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,480
Speaker 3: Ione is great, but what guard could we get with

444
00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:33,480
Speaker 3: that second pick versus an interior d lineman or an Edge,

445
00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,080
Speaker 3: Like how would you put that puzzle together?

446
00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,479
Speaker 1: So I was having this conversation a little bit earlier,

447
00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,320
Speaker 1: is that I always feel like, on our side, it's

448
00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,520
Speaker 1: easier for us to say, like, you take the Guard

449
00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,919
Speaker 1: at twenty two because you like the players that are

450
00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:49,159
Speaker 1: going to be available at fifty fifty six sounds right,

451
00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:50,600
Speaker 1: I got it, you know, somewhere in that range, right,

452
00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,040
Speaker 1: call it fifty six ish at position X. And then

453
00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:55,880
Speaker 1: I remind myself that like when you're the one who's

454
00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,040
Speaker 1: actually like you're Joe Ortiz and you have to make

455
00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,800
Speaker 1: the decision, and Joe's like, all right, So my job

456
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,800
Speaker 1: is to nail these picks, and like if I if

457
00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,719
Speaker 1: I take, if I don't take this player that I

458
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,480
Speaker 1: love here because I think a player of his position

459
00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,040
Speaker 1: is going to be available thirty two picks later and

460
00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,560
Speaker 1: that guy is not available, it's a really sinking feeling.

461
00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:18,600
Speaker 1: So I would say that the guard drop off after

462
00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,160
Speaker 1: Vanga is pretty notable in the first round. He's definitely

463
00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,199
Speaker 1: the only guy that I would take high in the

464
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Speaker 1: first round. In the second round, though, there are some

465
00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,520
Speaker 1: good names and one of the things that the guard

466
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,960
Speaker 1: position illuminates and I think is important, especially in the

467
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,639
Speaker 1: context with the Chargers, who are not one of these. Well,

468
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,960
Speaker 1: maybe maybe that'll change this year under Mike McDonald Mike McDaniel,

469
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,679
Speaker 1: excuse me, but you know, for previous years they've just

470
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,920
Speaker 1: been to run the snot out of the ball right

471
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 1: at you, right and big, powerful offensive lineman. Maybe the

472
00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 1: priority changes a little bit, and maybe with Mike calling

473
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 1: plays and they prioritize some of these more fluid athletic guys.

474
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,040
Speaker 1: You could see players like Chase p Sontists from Texas

475
00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,680
Speaker 1: ay and who might go earlier in the second round.

476
00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,919
Speaker 1: He's a pretty clean profile as well, would not be

477
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,399
Speaker 1: surprised if it's the fortieth overall pick or something like that.

478
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 1: If they still like if you know Jimar Bissel, the

479
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 1: head coach, if he says, I still want like big

480
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 1: nat you know, big dominating bulldozers at at the point

481
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 1: of attack. Keelan Rutledge from Georgia Tech's one of my

482
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 1: favorite players. Somewhere on day two as well. Got guys

483
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,880
Speaker 1: like Emmanuel Pregnant finished up at Oregon, is a really

484
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,159
Speaker 1: good player. This guard class isn't bad, Like there's some

485
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,920
Speaker 1: interior offensive lineman. The center class is pretty deep as well.

486
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 1: There's some guys where else, a ton of guys that

487
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 1: could flip between garden center, but not a bad depth

488
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,560
Speaker 1: class overall interior offensive line.

489
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Speaker 3: Because I'm thinking of just what edge you know, or

490
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,239
Speaker 3: interior d lineman could be there, and that's kind of

491
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 3: exciting as well.

492
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,160
Speaker 1: I like the depth at the edge spot this year.

493
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 1: I think wide receivers the deepest position in the class.

494
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,200
Speaker 1: I think edge has very good depth. I think there's

495
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 1: a drop though at some point, like it does hit

496
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,399
Speaker 1: to me. I wouldn't call it a hard stop, but

497
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 1: like there are guys past maybe pick one hundred, one

498
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,399
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty call it the fourth round where you're like,

499
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 1: all right here on out, I'm not nearly as excited

500
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 1: about guys that can make an instant impact wide receiver.

501
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,439
Speaker 1: There's guys all over the board that you're just like,

502
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 1: whoa like these guys are on the fifth round, then

503
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 1: he could play for us. Right, So the the second

504
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 1: round depth of edge is real, it's legit, and we

505
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 1: might have six seven guys taken in the first round

506
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:19,879
Speaker 1: at the edge spot. Second round, you're gonna have some

507
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 1: good players, you know, Jayshawn barrowm from Michigan. Not to

508
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 1: make every Michigan player connect to the Chargers, but a

509
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 1: guy that I like more than consensus is gonna have

510
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 1: a great week testing here today. Some good athletes, for sure.

511
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 2: We are serving the landscape for centers right.

512
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

513
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,400
Speaker 2: You know since Corey Linsley, they really haven't had that stability. Yeah,

514
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 2: with the Chargers Bozeman retired, linder Baum is gonna get

515
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,120
Speaker 2: a ton of money. Yeah, McGovern is the guy right

516
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 2: below him. You're that unique perspective that you know the league,

517
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,399
Speaker 2: you know the draft. How would you attack this if

518
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 2: you were the Chargers.

519
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 1: This might be one where Mike McDaniel does really prominently

520
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 1: influence because he's had some good centers in his offense.

521
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 1: I mean, he had Aaron Brewer this past year in

522
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 1: an amazing season for Miami. And Aaron was a guy

523
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 1: who I think he might have been acquired off of

524
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 1: waivers from Miami from Tennessee. I mean, he's not This

525
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 1: wasn't like, you know, fiftieth pick in the draft or

526
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 1: they groomed into become in this you know, twenty five

527
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 1: million or twenty million dollars per year center, right, he

528
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 1: was a guy that was probably more thought of as

529
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: an okay lineman even until this till recent seasons. The draft,

530
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: the center class, and free agency will do really well.

531
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 1: The Chargers obviously in a good spot capwise, but they

532
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,199
Speaker 1: do have some key players that they need to make

533
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: decisions on. And you know, if you retain Khalil Mcaradoffe, ohway,

534
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 1: they're not going to be for you know, five million

535
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 1: bucks a year right though, from expensive players. Uh So,

536
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 1: cap space can evaporate pretty quickly there. The center draft

537
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 1: class is interesting. I don't know, there's like, there's definitely

538
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 1: not a Tyler Linderbaum. There are good players Logan James

539
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 1: from Iowa, Connor lou from Auburn wh probably would have

540
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 1: been the best center of the class. Be towards ac

541
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 1: on October tricky one. There a couple of guys who

542
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: have been like Trey Zoon from Texas A and M

543
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 1: was a left tackle for much of his college career

544
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: and then played center too. He thinks he is going

545
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:58,719
Speaker 1: to be a center in the NFL. I think he's

546
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 1: right in that assessment. You got guys that maybe were

547
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: guards throughout the process that are going to be centers

548
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: come the NFL. Kind of the Gray Zabel Path who

549
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 1: ended up playing guard it with Seattle, but he was

550
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: training at center at the Senior Bowl last year. So

551
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: it's an interesting one there. But man, they got to

552
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 1: get the interior of the offensive line. Yeah under the microscope, Yeah,

553
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 1: big time.

554
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 3: Every So, the collection of folks we've had that have

555
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 3: been kind of enough to join us, it seems like

556
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 3: everyone has a different center. You know, we've got one

557
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 3: that wants hacked. Another slaughter Logan Jones has come up

558
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 3: a couple of times just kind of thinking of, you

559
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 3: know that wide zone offense, which one you know, just

560
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 3: throw the rounds out, but just which one do you

561
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 3: think would be the right guy to drop in there.

562
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 1: Logan's a fun one. He played at Iowa. But they're

563
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,439
Speaker 1: all like unbelievably well trained. You know, it's like a

564
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 1: thing of beauty watching the offensive line at Iowa plays

565
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: three offensive linemen will be yeah, Bo Stevens and Jenny

566
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: Dunk will be drafted high as well.

567
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 8: There.

568
00:24:55,760 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 1: Jake Slaughterer, bigger center, he's got good size, played at Florida,

569
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 1: very ten ten yured players, a ton, played a ton

570
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 1: of ball, super smart, pretty athletic.

571
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 4: Hmm.

572
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 1: I think it probably probably Sam hect has sort of

573
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: had sort of the buzzy last few months, played well

574
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,199
Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl, super tough Kansas State low LeVert

575
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 1: low like get underneath, you win with leverage type of

576
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 1: player at some good battles against high level competition this

577
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 1: past season in the Big twelve, I think it would

578
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: be more like, you know, what's the cost? I think

579
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 1: those guys are gonna go kind of in different tiers

580
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: throughout the board where some of the guys were talking

581
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 1: about it pass rusher, past catcher. You know, they're all

582
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: going to go in a similar range. It's gonna be

583
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: more of like what style of play do you want you.

584
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 2: Know, Field, I love this time of year because there

585
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 2: are going to be prospects that are working out today

586
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 2: and throughout the weekend that are going to help an

587
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 2: NFL team middle of the year, end of the year

588
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 2: in the playoffs. And you know we saw with with

589
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 2: amar and Hampton and Trey Harris who was ascending throughout

590
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 2: the course of the twenty twenty five season. What do

591
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 2: you remember and I'm sure you have a million guys

592
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 2: in your head, but but what Trey Harris uh looked

593
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 2: like on tape at Ole Miss and just what he

594
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 2: he kind of should We're expecting him to take another.

595
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 4: Leap, yeah.

596
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 1: He The thing that really solidified things for Trey last

597
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: year is just that he ran his butt off. He

598
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 1: ran what was a four four eight or something or

599
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 1: four four four, had a great combine week in the

600
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: speed department, and he was super tough. He was a

601
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: contested catch maestro at ole Miss. That offense was very prolific, obviously,

602
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: and they had great receivers. They had more traffull receivers

603
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 1: this year. But him and Jacksonder had a really good chemistry.

604
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 1: But and this this showed up in a major way

605
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 1: this year. Tough as all get out as a blocker

606
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: and selfless in that regard, right, I mean he you

607
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: know when you when they played with one receiver on

608
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: the field this year, it's pretty often tray he was

609
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: a guy that make him block an outside linebacker. Fine,

610
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 1: I'll get thirty and I'll take care of business there.

611
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,919
Speaker 1: So that's that's a pre wreck for a Jim Harbaugh

612
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 1: wide receiver. P id to imagine is you got to

613
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: be able to, you know, show some toughness play in

614
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: and play out. O'maron had a you know, obviously had

615
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: a great time, great great career at North Carolina and

616
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: just crush it at the combine as well. There's that's

617
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: an athletic specimen if we have ever seen one, and

618
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: you know, confident that within this scheme and with health

619
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 1: this year, he'll be a breakout player.

620
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 3: Safety is a quiet need. You have Derwin and everyone

621
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 3: just assumes you're fine. Elijah played great, but you know,

622
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 3: Derwin's a big nickel or a dimebacker. So just kind

623
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 3: of mcken's played well last year, I thought, you know,

624
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 3: but still I would assume that's something they're going to

625
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 3: look at.

626
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 1: What's the safety class deep? Yeah, I like the safety class.

627
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: You've got one that'll go very high in Caleb Downs.

628
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: I think there's a chance that I think there are

629
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: three that are on the first round radar. I don't

630
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 1: know that three will go in the first round. Manuel

631
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: McNeil Warren from Toledo. Fantastic athlete, great ball skills, true

632
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: free safety. I think running this week will help all

633
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: these guys. Dylan Thieneman from Oregon. It's going to crush

634
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 1: the combine. Super charge athlete. Yeah, sick athlete, played two

635
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 1: seasons at Purdue and then one at Oregon. Six picks

636
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: as a true freshman. Probably the best true center fielder

637
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 1: in the class. But you just keep going down the

638
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: list and there are guys that, like you know, the

639
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: six safety in this class can be pretty good player

640
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: like Age. If you're looking for a big, physical, imposing safety.

641
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 1: Aj Halsey from LSU. Really tough, physical guy, played two

642
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,719
Speaker 1: seasons at three seasons at Houston, then finish up at LSU.

643
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: Really impressive player. He'll he'll knock the snot out of you.

644
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: Genesis Smith from Arizona. Very rangy centerfielder as well. He'll

645
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: have a good week here this week. Trading s Duke's

646
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 1: his teammate from Arizona. This sort of unique. I think

647
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: big NICKL will be the right terminology for him as well.

648
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 1: So there's versatility in this class. There's guys that can

649
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: help you in the run game, some good free safeties

650
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: in the back end. I like this class. I like

651
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: the class of safeties here.

652
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

653
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 2: You my ears kind of perked up when you talked

654
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 2: about the wide receivers and the fact that you can

655
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 2: get some of these guys in mid rounds and feel

656
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Speaker 2: pretty good about it. You know, we're looking at the

657
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Speaker 2: personnel on the outside, and you know, I think lad

658
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 2: is gonna thrive in Mike McDaniel's system. We talked about

659
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Speaker 2: Trey Quintin's there Ca anddrey lebard Smith, who is who's

660
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 2: a bit of a burner. But I'm looking at maybe

661
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 2: like true speed in this draft class too. That do

662
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Speaker 2: you do you see a guy who has that that

663
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Speaker 2: burner speed that Mike McDaniel can take advantage of a

664
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Speaker 2: lah Tyreek killing waddle.

665
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

666
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Speaker 1: I mean the one that's probably the most obvious, like

667
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Speaker 1: you know, has a somewhat reasonable comp would be Casey

668
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Speaker 1: conceptsy On from Texas A and m to Jalen Wattle

669
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Speaker 1: not it's listen, that's a big, big ya comparison obviously,

670
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Speaker 1: But you know, I always say, like it's not like

671
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Speaker 1: for draft purposes, if you compare a guy to like

672
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Speaker 1: the fifth receiver and a roster, that's not particularly inspiring

673
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Speaker 1: when you're gonna take the guy late first round, right, So,

674
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Speaker 1: like the best case scenario for Casey Conceptsion could be

675
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Speaker 1: something like Jalen wall he had seven drops last year,

676
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: has to clean that up, but man is he explosive.

677
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: He is a big play waited to happen, receiver returner,

678
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: running game as well. Like you create touches for Casey

679
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: Conceptscion and obviously Mike does a great job with that.

680
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: Brendan Thompson from Mississippi State, probably the fastest wide receiver

681
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: in the class, played at Oklahoma, came to Mississippi State,

682
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: first player of mississip State and like forever to lead

683
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: the SEC in receiving yards. This guy's stud great vertical seperator,

684
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Speaker 1: small five nine and change. But he can flat out go.

685
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Speaker 1: You mean, then there there are some guys that can

686
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Speaker 1: really freaking run on Day three as well. So Malik

687
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: Benson from Oregon can flat out fly as well. He'll

688
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Speaker 1: have a good week this week if he tests. I

689
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Speaker 1: keep saying if these guys test, because I'm definitely hearing

690
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Speaker 1: a lot more of guys that are just bypassing it.

691
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Speaker 4: We're good.

692
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Speaker 1: But the fast guys should be test. They should be

693
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Speaker 1: they make your money, should be doing you know so,

694
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Speaker 1: And especially guys that have, for whatever reason, like things

695
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Speaker 1: they have to prove, whether it's less production, you know,

696
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: smaller sample size of snaps. So there are guys that

697
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,479
Speaker 1: can really go. Malik Benson will be like you can

698
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Speaker 1: put together a nice to keep the Olympic theme going

699
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Speaker 1: from the past couple of weeks, Like you can put

700
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Speaker 1: together a solid four by one hundred team here.

701
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Speaker 3: For sure, last one for you. We'll get shut on

702
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Speaker 3: this field. Tight end also just a quiet need. So

703
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Speaker 3: if we take Sidik off the board, just of the

704
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Speaker 3: ones that would be available their second third round I

705
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Speaker 3: think is probably maybe even fourth round knockers and yeah,

706
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Speaker 3: a y tight like a y.

707
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Speaker 1: You want a why Will Kasmerck Ohio State? I think

708
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Speaker 1: early on day three, tough as nails. I think the

709
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Speaker 1: best blocker amongst the tight ends in the class but him,

710
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: Marlin Klein Michigan guy had twenty four catches this past year,

711
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: totally underutilizing that offense. But he's big six ft six,

712
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty pounds to blocking butt off Nate

713
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Speaker 1: Borkichier from Texas A and M. He's Nebraska tough, played

714
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Speaker 1: at the I played with the cornho Skers for I

715
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Speaker 1: think three seasons and then finished up at Texas A

716
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Speaker 1: and M. Totally underutilized as well, but they had this

717
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: double dip at the wide receiver spot in the transfer portal,

718
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Speaker 1: including Casey conceptsi on I, Mario Cravers who were feasting

719
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Speaker 1: this past year. So Porkrachier sous of cat the TD

720
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Speaker 1: at Notre Dame right, Yes, he did yep, sick catches

721
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Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl as well for Nate. So they've

722
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Speaker 1: got there's there is good. Like I think there's some

723
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Speaker 1: good tough why tight ends if they wanted some more

724
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,479
Speaker 1: big play upside though, like you know, obviously they got

725
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: that in Ronde last year. But if you're looking for

726
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Speaker 1: like the the tough to do the dirty work kind

727
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: of guys, guys who might be and maybe eventual replacement

728
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Speaker 1: for a Will Disley type, then you've got handful options

729
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Speaker 1: there for sure.

730
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Speaker 2: Awesome love it field yates in demand here and radio

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Speaker 2: round on schedule, apreach out, Where time is it?

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Speaker 4: What day is it? Listen? We're the team that will

733
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Speaker 4: get you back on track. I'm sectly thank you, I

734
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Speaker 4: appreciate you.

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Speaker 4: Eight All right.

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Speaker 3: Final day of pods and YouTube shows. Why not wrap

748
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Speaker 3: it up with one of our favorites who joins us

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Speaker 3: every year. We certainly appreciate it comes the same way

750
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Speaker 3: we do so missing the Southern California weather like we are.

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Speaker 4: It's mina times. What's up, Mina, not much.

752
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Speaker 7: I know when you hit me about getting together this year,

753
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Speaker 7: I was trying to remember what I said. Less is

754
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Speaker 7: that what I said you guys should do, and it.

755
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Speaker 3: Worked out for your your hometown Seahawks. So and look,

756
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Speaker 3: I think you were right. I think Haddie been there,

757
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Speaker 3: they probably would have taken I remember they were trying

758
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Speaker 3: to trade out of that pick with the Eagles and

759
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Speaker 3: then just kind of fell apart, so they took them.

760
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Speaker 4: That's right. I forgot about that. They tried.

761
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Speaker 7: Yeah, thank you. No one ever, no one ever remembers

762
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Speaker 7: the rare times that I'm right right, no, right, no,

763
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Speaker 7: And I'm still believer in Hampton and his talent. Yeah, obviously,

764
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Speaker 7: circumstances outside of control.

765
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Speaker 3: And I'm guessing, are you going to well, you know,

766
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Speaker 3: we'll just start there. Are you going to project guard

767
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Speaker 3: again for the Oh?

768
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Speaker 4: Yeah?

769
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Speaker 7: God, it was twenty last year, twenty two this year, right,

770
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Speaker 7: two last year as well. So I'm not gonna lie

771
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Speaker 7: to you and say I've evaluated the offensive lineman in

772
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 7: this draft. Yet obviously it is still a position of need.

773
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 7: I think for LA two one thing you'd really because

774
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 7: you got to get both center and guard, right, you

775
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 7: really want versatility. That would be a quality without naming names,

776
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 7: that I would be interested in, as well as a

777
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 7: scheme fit for Mike McDaniel. But yeah, I would say, like,

778
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Speaker 7: obviously it is the most glaring area of need on

779
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Speaker 7: this team, but depending how the board shakes out, there's

780
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Speaker 7: also edge and tight end would be two other positions

781
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 7: you're at least considering. But you have to consider that

782
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 7: in conjunction with what you do in free agency because

783
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Speaker 7: you'll have so much money as well.

784
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of what we were talking about, is

785
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Speaker 3: just I feel like they've got to get a center

786
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Speaker 3: in free agency. Just maybe it's not Linderbaum, maybe it's

787
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Speaker 3: not even McGovern, but just to have someone so every

788
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 3: team behind you isn't like, Okay, we don't here's where

789
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Speaker 3: Heck is going, Here's where Slaughter's going, and just constantly

790
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Speaker 3: get people to jump in front of you. But just

791
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Speaker 3: feels like there's two guys and then you're sort of

792
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Speaker 3: but then again, you know, you kind of think about

793
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Speaker 3: what they had last year. Yeah, if you can just

794
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 3: get that to mid tier, I feel a lot better

795
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Speaker 3: about it.

796
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Speaker 7: And you think about Miami being a perfect example of

797
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Speaker 7: a team under coach McDaniel. That added a center and

798
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Speaker 7: free agency and Brewer and then he became one of

799
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Speaker 7: the best centers in the NFL. I do think McDaniel's

800
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Speaker 7: scheme is helpful to offensive linemen in a way that

801
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Speaker 7: could protect even if you're not spending on a Lenderbaum

802
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 7: or whatnot. But yeah, I think like when you have

803
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Speaker 7: a position of such glaring, you need like that you

804
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 7: want to hit it both ways. You want to hit

805
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Speaker 7: in both free agency and the draft so that you

806
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Speaker 7: have multiple shots on goal.

807
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Speaker 3: Yeah, when we have you here, I'd love to kind

808
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 3: of get a little more wide angle, big picture sort

809
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 3: of stuff because I think about McDaniel and I mean,

810
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Speaker 3: you know better than probably anyone we've been talking to

811
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Speaker 3: this week of kind of what his head coaching market was.

812
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Speaker 3: You know, did he maybe just pull himself out of

813
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Speaker 3: these interviews because it didn't feel right. He's going to

814
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Speaker 3: be right back into it next year. So how that

815
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Speaker 3: changes maybe how they approach free agency this year knowing

816
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Speaker 3: that they've got this that has all this respect and

817
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,959
Speaker 3: if it goes right, is probably going to be gone

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Speaker 3: after a single season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Right, So when I say, like, oh, Mike McDaniel's scheme,

821
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Speaker 7: it's like, okay, how much are you well? But I

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Speaker 7: don't think that enters into the equation. I think you

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Speaker 7: maximize this year. The Chargers were a playoff team. They're

824
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Speaker 7: a team if they had a you know, injured non

825
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Speaker 7: injured entirely, if the entire of its the line wasn't injured,

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Speaker 7: it would have I think looked very different. But yeah,

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Speaker 7: I I I feel in terms of Mike being on

828
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Speaker 7: this team, which I think you know is probably universally

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Speaker 7: a lotted I haven't seen a single person say that

830
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Speaker 7: wasn't a home run?

831
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Speaker 4: Right?

832
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Speaker 7: You can see what was so attractive to him as well.

833
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Speaker 7: It's always we always talk about the Chargers offense being

834
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Speaker 7: like the Ferrari you know in the garage, you know,

835
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Speaker 7: And I think there's there's some real potential here for

836
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Speaker 7: for him to do some pretty exciting stuff.

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Speaker 3: How do you I know, there's still free agency. Who

838
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Speaker 3: are they going to sign? Who are they going to lose?

839
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Speaker 3: But if you look at the AFC West, just your

840
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 3: gut does it? Do you think the Chiefs are going

841
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 3: to be able to bounce back? I think the Broncos

842
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Speaker 3: are going to be able to win, you know, twelve

843
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Speaker 3: plus games again, you think the Chargers are the class

844
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Speaker 3: of the Like, how do you see it shaken out?

845
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Speaker 7: I think it's pretty even, to be honest, Obviously, the

846
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 7: Raiders are in a rebuilding moment. The Chiefs have a

847
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 7: very difficult undertaking this offseason. Multiple positions, expensive positions of need,

848
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 7: wide receiver, edge, and corner. We'll see what they do

849
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Speaker 7: in free agency and what they do with McDuffie. Could

850
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Speaker 7: be a trade option, but like it's a lot to

851
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Speaker 7: address it a single off season. I think they'll be

852
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Speaker 7: better than they were last year, assuming Mahomes comes back healthy.

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Speaker 1: But you don't, I don't.

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Speaker 7: I think there's that roster is starting to feel, you know,

855
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 7: some misses and the draft, particularly again at those positions

856
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 7: and Denver I do think will be good again. I

857
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 7: will say, like historically, great defense is harder to reproduce

858
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 7: year to year, but they do. They don't have many

859
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 7: players departing John Franklin. Myers is the only one that

860
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 7: comes to mind.

861
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Speaker 3: Is like would seeing him in a Charger.

862
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Speaker 7: He's I think a really attractive free agent. But so,

863
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 7: you know, I feel that they'll still be really good.

864
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 7: But the notion that we can just set it and

865
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Speaker 7: forget it. It's still going to be a top five defense.

866
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Speaker 7: I think is you know, it's kind of open to interpretation.

867
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 7: And then with La I'm kind of two minds, like one,

868
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Speaker 7: I think offensively, the I'm so excited about the coaching hire,

869
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 7: there's no way the line can be that hurt. But then,

870
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Speaker 7: you know, I think losing coach Minchers is a big thing.

871
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 7: There's definitely. And then that's where some of the free

872
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 7: agents are. So it could be a thing where the

873
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 7: defense maybe takes a little bit of a step back,

874
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 7: but the offense takes two steps forward and that's enough

875
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 7: to put them in contention.

876
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 3: Now you walk me right to it. That's where I

877
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 3: was going with Jesse leaving, Chris O'Leary coming in. And

878
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 3: Chris was, you know, the guy that was tasked with

879
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 3: getting Derwin right and ready for that big nickel and dinebacker,

880
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 3: and then getting Elijah Molden ready after a trade in

881
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 3: the middle of training camp. So a lot is thought

882
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 3: of him, incredibly respected amongst all of the staff, and

883
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 3: they're pretty much sticking around. So if I told you

884
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 3: that the Chargers have this ninety million dollars pie to

885
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 3: work with a free agency. Would you be good just hey,

886
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 3: we can bring everyone back. We can get Khalil Mack

887
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 3: in O way, and we'll extend to Lee and we'll

888
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 3: bring back Zion and then find a center. Is that

889
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 3: Is that a successful offseason in your opinion?

890
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 7: Well, I think you can certainly bring a lot of

891
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 7: those players back, because I don't think they none of

892
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 7: them to me jump out as players will break the bank.

893
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 7: Maybe I'm wrong, and I think it, particularly on defense,

894
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 7: the continuity would be really helpful. I still think I

895
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 7: would right some of those positions. Consider some of the

896
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 7: other options available in free agency.

897
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 3: Would you like attack O line first and then let's

898
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 3: make sure we get the center and guard? Yeah right

899
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 3: away from Yeah?

900
00:39:55,520 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think edge is there's a lot of interesting

901
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 7: kind of middle class sort of edges. But also I

902
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 7: think you have to, like this is the thing about chart,

903
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 7: like you have to really look at free agency in

904
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 7: the draft together. So it's like if you if you're

905
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 7: picking a pick twenty and you like the you like

906
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 7: the defensive lineman, there maybe lessons your investment in free

907
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 7: agency a little bit. You want to bring in a veteran,

908
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 7: maybe you bring back back and I imagine he would

909
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 7: be something affordable at this point, but you pair that

910
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 7: with a young rookie, so you kind of have to

911
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 7: look at them together.

912
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, always interesting. It feels like kind of haven't been

913
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 3: here for a few days now that that's someone quite

914
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 3: a few teams have circled because it's not that forty

915
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 3: million dollar en, it's that seventeen eighteen and obviously once

916
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,439
Speaker 3: he got into Jesse's scheme, and I think twu Lea's

917
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 3: such a big help for that too, Like he is

918
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 3: just the ultimate d lineman assist guy. You know, he'll

919
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 3: get the pressure and they'll get the sacks.

920
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 7: I really like Boye Mafe coming out of Seattle. I

921
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 7: think he would be a good fit for this defense.

922
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 7: Another player I think him in Oway, I would say

923
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 7: contractually look pretty so to me, I'll see how.

924
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 4: That makes sense.

925
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, I'm.

926
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 7: Always so impressive coming over from Baltimore. You really saw

927
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 7: I think the reasons why he was drafted in the

928
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 7: first round, and like you said, as far as young

929
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 7: league people never forget that, like when you if you

930
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 7: were a first round draft pick and the reasons why,

931
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 7: you know, teams will still hold on to that. So

932
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 7: the market could be more competitive.

933
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, just in terms of sort of Justin Herbert, right,

934
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 3: and we know quarterbacks. You're on NFL Live there they

935
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:30,919
Speaker 3: drive discussion. It seemed like it was too I felt

936
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 3: like the regular season was really good for Justin and

937
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 3: the national Yeah, narrative conversation, what he had to play

938
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 3: behind and what he was helping a guy, this team

939
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 3: to eleven wins, especially out of structure. Yeah, and then

940
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 3: in the playoff game it felt like it got away. Yeah,

941
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 3: it tilted a little bit more negative again.

942
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that's right. And then everyone only remembers

943
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 7: the last game. I say this every year. It kind

944
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,919
Speaker 7: of it felt like with Justin, like it just got

945
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 7: to be too much by the end, like he was

946
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 7: just being asked to do too much and it was

947
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 7: and obviously it was a game he liked to have back,

948
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 7: but he was able to overcome so much during the

949
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 7: regular season. I do think it led to some particularly

950
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,919
Speaker 7: with the national games, you know, some of the nighttime games.

951
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 7: I think people kind of really appreciated how he was

952
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 7: carrying that offense. It's such a contextual position, though, and

953
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 7: I think that sometimes gets lost in the discussion around quarterbacks.

954
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll finish up with this. I know you're moving around,

955
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 3: so I think I don't remember who put them out,

956
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 3: but the first over unders are out. There are ten

957
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 3: teams over underwins at ten and a half. That's the

958
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 3: highest they have.

959
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 4: Bless you.

960
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 3: Okay, there are ten teams at ten and a half.

961
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 3: The Chargers are one of them, Okay, Bills, Baltimore Ravens,

962
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 3: and then I think there's three in the AFC are

963
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 3: in the NFC West, but Seattle obviously is in there,

964
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 3: the Rams, the forty nine ers. Do you think crazy?

965
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 7: By the way, three teams.

966
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 3: Isn't that crazy? Although that's what it was two years ago.

967
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 3: I remember it was Broncos, Chargers and Chiefs, and I think

968
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 3: a lot of people think that might be the case

969
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 3: this year. Do you think the Chargers if they get

970
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 3: let's just say they get free agency, right, they get

971
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 3: a guard, they get a center, they get a guard,

972
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 3: they work that out, do you think they belong in

973
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 3: that the Yeah?

974
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 7: Last year, I think if if the offensive line approach

975
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 7: it is even just average, let's say, in terms of

976
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 7: performance and health coming together with the coach coming in,

977
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 7: what another quarterback is capable of and some of the

978
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 7: development you saw from some of the skill players too.

979
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 7: I think there's no reason to think it can't be

980
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 7: a top seven to six offense in the NFL. So

981
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 7: even if the defense takes a little bit of the

982
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 7: step back and fallows more in that ten to fifteen range,

983
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 7: that's still a ten plus win team.

984
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 4: All Right.

985
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 3: I want you to flex a little bit here because

986
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 3: I know you love to just players that you love

987
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 3: in the draft.

988
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 7: Get oh Man, Okay, so I'm still.

989
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 3: You're working through it.

990
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean about literally any o Higo State. Well

991
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 7: I'll start the Higo State actually. Like so obviously the

992
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 7: top guys are awesome styles Reese downs, but I've loved

993
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 7: some of the like kind of secondary players like Caden

994
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 7: MacDonald's actually wouldn't be a bad fit. Might be waiting

995
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 7: for him well definitely where they're picking, but that would

996
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 7: be a little bit rich. But but he's a great

997
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 7: I mean, he's already a plus run defender who I

998
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 7: think has some pass rush up side. I like Curry

999
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 7: the other ed the ninety two I think is his number.

1000
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 7: There's like a lot of players on that team who

1001
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 7: aren't in that. It's insane. It's like why yea, So

1002
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 7: those are some players that I liked. I really like

1003
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 7: the Jeremi Love is amazing, but I also like his

1004
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:35,919
Speaker 7: backup a lot Price twenty four and then a guy

1005
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 7: who has been this is not a sleeper but linked

1006
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 7: to the Chargers a bit steek. The Oregon tight end,

1007
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 7: I think is pretty clearly to me the best tight

1008
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 7: end in the draft and very complete and pro ready.

1009
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 7: And we've seen so many tight ends now come into

1010
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 7: the NFL and have an impact immediately, which has really

1011
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 7: have a sea change in the position, right, because it

1012
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 7: used to take a while. So if I was a

1013
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 7: Charger's like, if I was thinking about him, I would

1014
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 7: be encouraged. We like all the top three tight ends

1015
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 7: are awesome. Last ya, right, So I think he's a

1016
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 7: guy who come in and be good, very quickly.

1017
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 3: Fun to give him to Mike McDaniel, all right, mean,

1018
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 3: we know you're busy. We appreciate you stopping by us.

1019
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 3: Always good to see you.

1020
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 4: All right, all right, buddy, that's a wrap.

1021
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 2: Any closing thoughts from India as we get our way

1022
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 2: back to Los.

1023
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 3: Angeles, may our flights not be delayed. I've been dealing

1024
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 3: with travel issues for the last four days, so I

1025
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 3: am ready to get back to southern California. I love it.

1026
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 3: I cannot wait to get back into the water. I

1027
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 3: miss it terribly. My body has rejected me, has decided

1028
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 3: to fight against me because there was a lack of

1029
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 3: salt water in my system. So yes, I need to

1030
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,240
Speaker 3: get back to my amphibious nature in a hurry.

1031
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 2: Will you appreciate your dedication, your willingness to drive eleven hours?

1032
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 3: I don't know if the charger's financial department is going

1033
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 3: to appreciate my willingness to your rental car company. They're like,

1034
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 3: you're not worth that number. Cortany's gonna have something to

1035
00:45:58,320 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 3: say too.

1036
00:45:58,760 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 2: Now.

1037
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 3: Not worth them basically charging you for having stolen a

1038
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 3: car is the number they decided to throw at me.

1039
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 3: So that's something I got to figure out when I

1040
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 3: get home. We got to shout out our crew too,

1041
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 3: Brian Man. Brian does also work is set up all

1042
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 3: of our guests, sets up this seamless podcast set up

1043
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 3: here at Radio Row.

1044
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 4: Ben b rab the whole.

1045
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 3: Crew, Young Ben, Young Ben got after it a little bit.

1046
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 3: We appreciate that takes the place of young Will. We

1047
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 3: need one of those every single year, So well done,

1048
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 3: Young Ben. Every single year, there's a new person who's

1049
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 3: never been to the comp. I've got to go home.

1050
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 3: It's God, I can't go out. I've got to go

1051
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 3: home right now. Not going home right now. Sorry, that's

1052
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 3: not how this works. Always a good time. You just

1053
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 3: stuck in saying elmless strip cocktail exactly all right, guys,

1054
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 3: thank you as always for watching, for listening. We love you, guys,

1055
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 3: and we will see you next week as we get

1056
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 3: ready for free agency.

1057
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 4: I can't believe that's a couple of weeks away from money.

1058
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 4: I'm Chris. This has been Chargers Weekly