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Speaker 1: this convo. We really haven't brought out the going awful

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Speaker 1: arm in a while. Yes, we haven't brought out the

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00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 1: going off alarm and so long. But Robbie, honestly now

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Speaker 1: ringing in the background. Well, we'll add that in in post.

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Speaker 1: We're adding and but we're additing in post. But um wait,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I do want to very quickly go back

429
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Speaker 1: to the art conversation, because Robbie, you raised the interesting point,

430
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: which is that you think all day, so you're not

431
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Speaker 1: going to wait to be inspired by something, and that

432
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 1: which is interesting because it does then it's like it

433
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Speaker 1: kind of implies that the people that are inspired most

434
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Speaker 1: by art are the people who spend most of the

435
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 1: day not thinking, and so then they're so in awe

436
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: that something is making them think that they start tearing up. Yeah,

437
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 1: it's it's I don't know how I wish I could

438
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Speaker 1: live that life. I mean, I wish I could like

439
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: or or simply I wish I could turn off. I

440
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,160
Speaker 1: wish I don't have to think so much. I wish

441
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Speaker 1: I could not want the things I want. I wish

442
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Speaker 1: I was okay, you know, I wish probably I was

443
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Speaker 1: less intelligent than we are, because I think an artist

444
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,360
Speaker 1: takes some level of intelligence, some level of of guts

445
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: to say, like all these structures put upon me, like

446
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Speaker 1: I still feel that my soul, Like that's the thing

447
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Speaker 1: living for like we do do this thing where we

448
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Speaker 1: we a free of something to some extent um. Does

449
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Speaker 1: this apply to like film and TV also like or

450
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Speaker 1: is it just like visual art like paintings and sculptures

451
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Speaker 1: or like life to me for all of it. I

452
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: mean I think visual are like the people who are

453
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 1: like hoity toity and go to like the museum, because

454
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Speaker 1: it's like I think there's a special category for those

455
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Speaker 1: people somewhere, maybe not Hell, but somewhere, And I do

456
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Speaker 1: think that, Like I can't remember I was going to

457
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Speaker 1: say something else in one of in one of my

458
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Speaker 1: going off friends, but but yeah, the idea of like

459
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Speaker 1: having you know of I just wish I could be simpler,

460
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Speaker 1: like I was on a flight and the lady next

461
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Speaker 1: to me was sipping her shard, a middle age, wonderful woman. Okay,

462
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Speaker 1: she is having a time. She's there's no kids, there's nothing.

463
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Speaker 1: She's watching a legend. Yeah, mall com actually Jan Arden,

464
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Speaker 1: No she is Katie Link. No, she was just you know,

465
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Speaker 1: sitting on the plane. She's watching Mall Cop too. Okay,

466
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Speaker 1: Paul Blar, you should know this is interesting to bring up.

467
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Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of Kevin James. Keep going, oham

468
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Speaker 1: wants to fuck Kevin James. I think, yeah, I'm sure

469
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Speaker 1: he gets like, yeah, he's the cutest. I loved King

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Speaker 1: of Queens. I still think it's like one of the

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Speaker 1: best that comes my family, like strangely likes everybody's like, Okay,

472
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Speaker 1: she hates fine art and she loves King of Queens.

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Speaker 1: Queens was excellent, excellent, Later, Minny lovely, Yes, okaya, go

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Speaker 1: back to this anyway, she's watching Mall Cop too. I

475
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Speaker 1: kid you, not every set up she was already like

476
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Speaker 1: every setup to every joke, she was like already like

477
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: she like could barely take it. And then when they

478
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Speaker 1: hit with whatever punchline let it, whether it was a

479
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Speaker 1: line or a pratfall. Literally, she was like dying her

480
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Speaker 1: sharp nay splashing everywhere, like she early enjoyed thoroughly this

481
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Speaker 1: movie start to finish, and I should only be so lucky.

482
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Speaker 1: Do you know what it even takes me to watch

483
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Speaker 1: a movie to the point that, like I am like

484
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Speaker 1: searching the entire flight and maybe I find a documentary

485
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Speaker 1: of inside the worst Prisons of America, And I'm fine,

486
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: But it's like a very difficult for me to get

487
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,360
Speaker 1: to that level of interest, let alone laughter the way

488
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 1: that she can watch anything. This wasn't even more cop one,

489
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 1: which I'm sure she feels like. This lady has figured

490
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Speaker 1: it out, like with like she is enjoying the best life.

491
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: The more you know, the worse it is to enjoy

492
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 1: life because you just know too much. You're too in

493
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Speaker 1: tune to the t So I do wish that I

494
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,479
Speaker 1: could like be more naive to certain things so that

495
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: I can just enjoy. Yeah, I'm I'm trying to put

496
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 1: in the work to become less informed. I think that's

497
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: a real goal of mine. Yeah, I'm with you on that.

498
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: I don't watch people like did you watch the debate?

499
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, my masoch istic Are you asking me if

500
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 1: I cut myself? Like there's a question here. It's so weird,

501
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: it's so stupid, and why would you want Like I

502
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 1: already fucking voted, Like, I'm not watching this debate just

503
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: to feel bad and get piste off. I'm already mad.

504
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 1: Who cares? Well, there is I think that the kind

505
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: of the idea of the political junkie as a figure

506
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: in our culture, Like these are people that want to

507
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: feel bad. Yeah, like they get off on feeling bad.

508
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: That's like the people whose thing is that they keep

509
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: up with the news. Like sorry, I think it's important

510
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: to keep up with news, but like specifically keep up

511
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: with like the minutia of electoral politics. It is people

512
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: who literally are seeking both to feel angry and slighted

513
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: and also to feel like they It's like a sense

514
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: of control, like if I know all the details, and

515
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: if I know every the name of every person that

516
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: is involved in this decision, then I will then it

517
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: will somehow make me more Like what it actually does.

518
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: It literally what you're describing right now is sports. You

519
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: come to understand why people have this affinity for sports,

520
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: And I never I thought sports always was so stupid.

521
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: It's just two people going to a you know, a

522
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: ball to get it here or to get it there. Um.

523
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: But really, people who are very into sports are into

524
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: every little character that it really is a soap opera

525
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: for them. They know the backstory. If this person was

526
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,719
Speaker 1: from here, he was drafted here, he comes from this family,

527
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: nothing nobody believed in him. That they're literally like gays,

528
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: like you think like, oh, we're getting you like soap operas.

529
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: You like soap operas to your sports is like you're

530
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: literally screaming from what's his name, Tom bred I don't

531
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Speaker 1: even know their names, like you are doing the exact

532
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: same thing. Sports is now every you know. I mean,

533
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Speaker 1: I would not to say yeah, I'd be remiss. I'd

534
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: say guy random has a bit exactly about this that

535
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: he does where he's talking about how reality like real

536
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: housewives are just emotionally and and and and kind of

537
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: structurally the same as for it. So they're just like, yeah, yeah, exactly,

538
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: he would be. You know, I like, I I think

539
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: everything is just kind of in that structure, especially politics

540
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: right now and the way it's set up, Like first

541
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Speaker 1: of all, it's such bad art, Like to watch the debate,

542
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: it's a play, so everything and you're like it's a

543
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: bad play. Yeah, it's like like they're not having the

544
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Speaker 1: best people, Like we didn't even get off we didn't

545
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: shoot for off Broadway. People even to produce this. It's

546
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: like now it's just like a bad, weird play, Like

547
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Speaker 1: it's people kind of other lines and it's not a

548
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: good set and the director is absent. Yeah, it's just

549
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: like why would I watch that? Plus, I do dike

550
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Speaker 1: Vice on Thursdays and it was competing. Our numbers did

551
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Speaker 1: not dip. You'll be happy. I love a plug Binet

552
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Speaker 1: scum Dot Live, my weekly call and show. You can

553
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: call me in about anything, what shoes to wear, where

554
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: I'll tell you. You You can call me about financial advice.

555
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: Let me look at a statement, I'll tell you where

556
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: you're going wrong. Love whatever you want. I'm going to

557
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: tell you what your therapist won't and we'll see a

558
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: lot quick or believe me. Oh my god, I could

559
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: go therapy. We need to do Um. Wait, Robbie, we

560
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: need to do our first segment, but I do want

561
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: to talk to you about therapy. Um. Okay, So so

562
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: Robbie our first segment. And yes, this podcast has segments,

563
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: if you can believe it. Um, it's called Straight Shooters um,

564
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: because this podcast is um about straight culture sort of

565
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: and so uh you know, to sort of started off

566
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: with our first segment, we just sort of ask you

567
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: a series of rapid fire questions to gage your familiar

568
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: familiarity with the tapestry of straight culture. UM, and if

569
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: you ask any follow up questions, we're gonna be piste off. Okay, George,

570
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: should we start yes, Robbie, air pods or air Jordan's Okay,

571
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: Robbie starting a TikTok out of a desperate need for

572
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: attention or starting a podcast out of a desperate need

573
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:12,959
Speaker 1: for attention TikTok anxiety or depression anxiety. I don't know

574
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: who I'm I'm doing what I like the most. You're

575
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: doing great. Um. Being a dog person, being a cat person,

576
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: or being a people person. It depends on the person,

577
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: cat or dog. I I need to meet and see

578
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: if I have a rapport with everything I don't like.

579
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: I like some people. I don't you know. I'm a

580
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: people person, yes, but there's some people I don't like.

581
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: I gotta meet your dog if we ever rapport, and

582
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: then we'll go. There's a cat. I love my cat.

583
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Speaker 1: It doesn't mean I like your scratchy as cat. I

584
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Speaker 1: have a relationship with this person U animal on very

585
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: case by case. Okay, okay, Robbie. Upholding the status quo

586
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: or updating your status on Facebook? It's too many words.

587
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: That was That was a word salad? Uh, definitely not

588
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: the status quo? That okay? Great? Okay, Robbie, UM Prada

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Speaker 1: Gucci Fendi or bill a bong A Gucci, ah Prada

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Speaker 1: and bill a bung All right, and you know what

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Speaker 1: I think we're I think we can ended here. What

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00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: do you think? Say? Do you have another one? Well? No,

593
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: not really? Okay, go for it. This one's um a

594
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: little bit different than the form, Robbie. How many Boras

595
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: do you think we'll see in our lifetime? I have

596
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: not seen Bora yet, but I gotta go. I gotta

597
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: watch one of them. You haven't seen the first one? Yeah,

598
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: I've never seen Bora, but I love it. I've seen clips,

599
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And I feel like I

600
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: loved it, but I never have like sat down to

601
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: do it, but I want to do it, do you

602
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: know what I mean? It's like one of those like

603
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Speaker 1: I want to finish the morning show, like there's a

604
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: lot for me to do is it's like I think

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Speaker 1: I was, Um, obviously, I remember liking it when I

606
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: was younger, but I don't think, or I imagine, I

607
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: didn't fully get like the actual political satire element when

608
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Speaker 1: I was, you know, that young, And I do wonder

609
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Speaker 1: if I should rewatch it now as an adult to

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Speaker 1: see like what it is saying about post nine eleven America. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I definitely, I don't know I'm gonna do it. You know,

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Speaker 1: I watch a lot of Wendy Williams recently. I'm candy

613
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: keeping it pretty light. Again, there's not a lot of

614
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of people not specifically following politics,

615
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: and it brings me down, and I have enough weird

616
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Speaker 1: thoughts in my head that I'm like, I would rather

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Speaker 1: you know, Wendy's a mess and a half when I'm

618
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Speaker 1: here for it, you know, stuff like that. But I'm

619
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Speaker 1: gonna watch borat Um. I want to watch I mean,

620
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Speaker 1: I asked because I have not seen bore At two

621
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Speaker 1: yet and it came out on Friday, and you know,

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Speaker 1: my my boyfriend is sort of some sort of where

623
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Speaker 1: he's not letting me watch it. My boyfriend watched it

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Speaker 1: without me. Cook play Okay, play when your boyfriend watches

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Speaker 1: bot without you, that's cook play and it's absolutely disgusting.

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Speaker 1: Descrit to me cuck play again, but go ahead, s

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Speaker 1: oh um, well, cook play is it's sort of you

628
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Speaker 1: enjoy watching your partners sleep with someone else. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: the games are up to some ship. I mean, I

630
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Speaker 1: have to say a lot of straits are into that too, talking.

631
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Speaker 1: I feel like it's mostly straight gay gay guys are

632
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Speaker 1: just like, well, let's just all have sex. Like if

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Speaker 1: you do want to have sex and we want to

634
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 1: have sex, like, then the four of us are having sex, right,

635
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: we gotta get more involved. But against sex is so

636
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: loosey goosey on my end that who can I tell

637
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: you something? I knew this group of lesbians and when

638
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: I used to live in Boston. Um, and in fact,

639
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: I hung out with one of them recently. This was

640
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: I would say, three couples. Yeah, I gotta get you

641
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: know what. I gotta get involved. I gotta reach out

642
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: to the community. I'm not I really, I really. I

643
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: realized that I don't even have like a big QUI like,

644
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 1: I'm friends with comedians and I have my my my

645
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 1: old I have friends like who are like in private

646
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: equity and like friends I went to university with who

647
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: are like not evolved in the scene at all. But

648
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 1: I don't have a specifically lesbian like there's all types

649
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: of lesbian dramas happened, like she's dating her, who's dating

650
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: I never have that because I always made lesbians in

651
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: the wild. I look so gay, you know, me being

652
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 1: visibly gay. It's like girls who are gay let you

653
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: know if they like me or they have a crush

654
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: on me. They'll let me know that they're gay. And

655
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: so I meet him out in the wild. I'm not

656
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 1: on the thing. I'm not like meeting them through the circles.

657
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: I just meet like one offs, like oh, all the

658
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: thing here and there's a one off Dike there, Like

659
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: that's who I end up meeting. But I gotta community.

660
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: I gotta get in the commune. Maybe after COVID we'll

661
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: see the touch based back. Yeah, I feel like I

662
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 1: mean like, we hang out with a lot of gay

663
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: men Georgian I do, but it's they're all like comedy gays,

664
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: and none of them are There's no drama. There's no drama,

665
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: there's no hooking up, there's no like oops. It's like

666
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: we're all like respectful of each other, which kind of sucks.

667
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 1: It really is very um I would actually have to say, Sam,

668
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: we're very lucky in that regard the go ahead. Well,

669
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 1: I just mean like the fact that we have somehow

670
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: maintained this circle of gay male friends, and with a

671
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: couple of very minor exceptions, there are no like weird

672
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 1: sexual triangles happening. People aren't like hooking up with their

673
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: friends and then ruining their relationship. Everyone is having sex

674
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: on their own and not bring it into the group.

675
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: We can learn a lot from the game and in comedy.

676
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: I think it's the last friend. I disagree, but I'm

677
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: interested in hearing you out. Well, I think that up

678
00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: until recently, we haven't there hasn't been a hugely famous

679
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: gay guy comic, you know, it really hasn't been. And

680
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: we haven't had our Ellen or our Seinfeld or that

681
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: sort of stuff for gay men, you know what I mean.

682
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: It's like, really they were almost no it's still the

683
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: newest group in comedy to some extent, is like gay

684
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: men doing comedy on a bigger level because dikes have

685
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: had it going, you know, I mean, so many of

686
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: the great comics are lesbians back from our queer women

687
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: more generally. I mean it's like it's not just Ellen.

688
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: I mean it's like Wanda Sykes and you know, even

689
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: more more recently, like you know, my own thoughts about

690
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: this society, Like the biggest special lest year was in

691
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: the NET, which was like there it really is. I

692
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: mean even back to like Paula Poundstone, it it really

693
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: is like uming. My theory is that masculinity is so

694
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: promoted in every culture, right, So in straight culture, obviously

695
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: men are funny. Obviously, um you know, men are the

696
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: thing you relate to. Most men are revered, men are strong,

697
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: amass And in the lesbian culture, I think dikes who

698
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: have more masculinity are taken more seriously than regular girls

699
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: i e. Fem girls or the gay male culture is

700
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: the same thing. Femininity is always the second er uh tier.

701
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 1: You know, the mask gaze mask for mask is a

702
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 1: very promoted thing in gay man culture. And it's just

703
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: like everywhere you go there's misogyny, you know, to the

704
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: extent that even in a fully male world, i e.

705
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: A gay only world, maybe it's still femininity is still

706
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: fucking the pits. It's still not respected. It's still you

707
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: can't be funny if you're feminine. And I think I

708
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: benefit from having some masculinity to my femininity. That like

709
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: that gets me a little bit more. And you know,

710
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 1: I think lesbians have a little bit more of that,

711
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: even though it's such a weird mental gymnastics that were, yeah,

712
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 1: you know, it's this weird thing. And then gay guys,

713
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: it's like you're choosing to have femininity. It's like almost

714
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: like doubly disrespectful, or it's doubly like frowned upon for

715
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: some meschigos reason that maybe there was a gay guy

716
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: comic but he was masked, you know, or he was

717
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: you actually know of one who you know? I mean,

718
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: it's interesting because it's like pretty mad. Also, Richard Pryor

719
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: literally had sex with men, and he is the most

720
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: famous and best comedian. Look, we go out of our

721
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: way to say people aren't gay men. It's like you

722
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: look at Prince, Yes, guys, I don't well, I don't

723
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 1: know nothing about Prince. But the fact that I can

724
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: say I think he's gay. It's like people take offense

725
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: to that, like what's wrong with me? I'm not because

726
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: I'm straight. I don't take offense. I mean, nobody's saying it,

727
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean saying that, I'm like

728
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: that I think he's gay. I have enough, but whether

729
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: the reason I have enough going there's enough evidence for

730
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 1: me to think he is. It's you know what I mean,

731
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: he's wearing he not know this was heading to Prince's gay.

732
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: But it's also like people get mad at me, like

733
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: you can't talk about Prince like that, like what like

734
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: he's gay? Like this is right. It's like you can

735
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: just say that it might be wrong, but it's not

736
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: offensive offensive. Yeah, it's so weird. Yeah, it's interesting how

737
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 1: people are. You can't have it both ways. You can't

738
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: be like being gay is not bad, but also calling

739
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: a straight person gay is offensive. Is offensive. It's like

740
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: do you remember when John McCain was asked, like, is

741
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: Obama a Muslim? And then his answer was like no,

742
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: he's a good family man. And then everyone was like

743
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: that is so powerful. No, that's still actually offensive. It's wild,

744
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: It's like and then you're it's like so gas lightly.

745
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 1: I remember I was working on a show and I

746
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: was one of the jobs was I had to write

747
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: jokes for some of the correspondents on the show. And

748
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: we would have to like introduce the correspondence. It's like

749
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: you guys introduced me, and for my introductions for one

750
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: of the correspondents, I was constantly doing like a gay thing,

751
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: like just bought a Subaru has two cats, like like

752
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: hack dumb things, and I got pulled aside saying like, oh,

753
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: you can't insinuate this person is gay even though this

754
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: person looks gay, you know. To me, I'm like, why

755
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: can't I insinuate somebody's gay? It's wrong with that? Bad?

756
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: Are you? What are you insinuating? Sir? Yeah, it's I

757
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: mean I was being a ship. Here's the only no no.

758
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: Like on guys lighting the guys like you think you're

759
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: gonna guys like me, I'm gonna show you whose guys

760
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: lighting host? I invented it. Bit, I have to say,

761
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: I have an idea for our topic, which is to

762
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: have the topic just be society. Yea, by the way,

763
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: I did com prepare. I want you guys, I have

764
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 1: a topic. Maybe maybe we won't ever do the top

765
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: like maybe at the end of the mesode we will

766
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: finally do the topic. But I want you guys to

767
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: know I come prepared to everything, just like this. You

768
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: asked me for a topic about straight culture gay culture.

769
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 1: What was the exact request? A topic about straight culture. Yeah,

770
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: if you're thinking of a topic about gay culture, that's

771
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: for our sister podcast, Gayteo Lab. Okay, okay, I have it.

772
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: It's it's like a difference between straight and gay culture topic.

773
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. Do you want to talk do you

774
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: want to bring it up now? I feel like, did

775
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: we do your segments or do we go normally a score?

776
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 1: We didn't one segment and then we have another one

777
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 1: right at the end that we do. Don't worry about

778
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: it to Yeah, we give you a score at the

779
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: end of the top or at the end of the

780
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: first segment. But we did. This is a deeply deconstructed

781
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: version of our podcast, and so we score. I think

782
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: the ten. I think I nailed everything. It's a ten,

783
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: ten out of one thousand doubs. Um. No, my topic

784
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 1: was really just about dating. Something I'm thinking about in Quarantine.

785
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: I have a lot of dikes coming to me getting

786
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: together in are you not in a relationship? I am,

787
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: But I'm saying all these Quarantine relationships that are happening

788
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:14,720
Speaker 1: are like I have some diet. Here's something different between

789
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 1: gay culture, or specifically maybe dike culture and straight culture.

790
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: For me is like dikes don't get to date anymore.

791
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: We've lost the privilege, okay, because we're constantly obsessed with

792
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: where this is going. I have two friends who have

793
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: gone on three or four dates with each other and

794
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: they're constantly and she pursued me, but now she's the

795
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,720
Speaker 1: one saying she wants a little space. So what's that about? Yes, people,

796
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: Ebb and flow, you don't have the temperament to date,

797
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 1: do not date. Straight people date and what they do

798
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 1: by dating is figuring it out in a few months

799
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: and be like, well we're still figuring it out, but

800
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 1: dis like right away, like but where is this? Like

801
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: you don't get to know. It's like my buddy Sean

802
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: is thinking about getting married to his to his girlfriend

803
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: of six years and I almost said partner, but what

804
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: are you gay? Anyways? Like he's been thinking and it's

805
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: so like a matter of factor and he's like it's

806
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: everybody would say, like girls would say or dicesive, what's

807
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: the hold up? Like why do they wait? It's like

808
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: there's been no hold up. They've been enjoying, Like there's

809
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: there's literally he's chilling, he's been good, there's been no problem,

810
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: and now they're thinking of it like it's just so natural,

811
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: but diets don't operate that, and it's like, what's the alternative,

812
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: Like you just have to go on Love is blind.

813
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: You get to meet three people and you're married by

814
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: the end of the episode, so you're temperament to date.

815
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: This is in praise of straight culture, something that we

816
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: can all learn, or at least the act incredible assertion

817
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: that straight that dating is actually better for straight people

818
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: and they and they are doing a better job. They're

819
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: doing it, They're there or I don't know. I mean,

820
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: I have to say, I have to say, listen, I

821
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: don't know how smoothly dating is going in the straight world.

822
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: I think there. I think they are in a in

823
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: a crossroads where the practices that were considered so socially

824
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 1: acceptable for so long are up in the air now.

825
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 1: And I think a combination of like um of of

826
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: of kind of gender politics coming to a head, and

827
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: also men not being sure what it means to be

828
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: a masculine straight man anymore, so that there's actually like

829
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: more um uncertainty in the straight world than in the

830
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: gay world. No, I agree that they're doing it bad. No, No,

831
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: I think there's way more. I think men are the problem,

832
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: you know, for sure in the straight world to some extent.

833
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: But I think too. You know, people always ask me

834
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,439
Speaker 1: what went long in my last relationship. I'm like, it's

835
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: two women. It's too much. It's just like, I don't

836
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: know how you don't think you know, if there's no

837
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: in yang, you know that makes sense, It's like, what

838
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: are we doing here? Like every every few months I

839
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: wake up as a lesbian. I'm like, how weird is

840
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: it that I like other girls? I'm like, isn't it

841
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: just weird? Like, but imagine not being able to relate

842
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 1: to at least you can relate to someone because you

843
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: have similar experiences. Imagine if you were dating someone who

844
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: is who had a different lived experience than you. I know,

845
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: it's crazy, it's that that you you you hit it

846
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: nail on the head. What's that? Thank you? But it's

847
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: like I was trying to convince somebody, my sister's best

848
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: friend husband, who's this straight white dude who's successful whatever.

849
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: I was trying to convince him. Like I was in

850
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: Georgia recently and I look like this in Georgia, and

851
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: so it's confusing to me to him, and you know,

852
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 1: he said it was so hard to explain to him,

853
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: Like we got like a weird we had a weird

854
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: interaction in a store just because I was like in

855
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: deep Georgia, I wasn't like in Atlanta, and we had

856
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: a weird thing because I look like this and they

857
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: don't see me like this. And then you know, so

858
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: you I'm accustomed to looking different. And but the thing is,

859
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,240
Speaker 1: this guy was like, how do you know they cared

860
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: that you were gay? Like how does he even know

861
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: you're gay? And it's like you're trying to convince somebody

862
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:33,399
Speaker 1: who's never looked or been perceived different what it's like

863
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: to have that experience. It's like because I know it's

864
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: because if you have ever had a feeling that you

865
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: were different, it's at a distinct you know it immediately.

866
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: It's like love, it's like anything else. It's like you

867
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: just have these it's a feeling that you know and

868
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: it's true. You know it's it's it's undoubtedly like you

869
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 1: feel it as soon as it happens to you. But

870
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 1: these people, it's it was hard for me to articulate.

871
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: I kind of just gave up because I'm like, oh,

872
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 1: I can't explain to this person what it's like to

873
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: feel different in anyway because he's truly never he'll never

874
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 1: get to know that. Like ever, it's like maybe he'll

875
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: go to you know, I don't even know, maybe he'll

876
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 1: go to China, or he'll go somewhere where he's different

877
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,439
Speaker 1: than the rest of the population. But even then there'll

878
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: be a reverence more so than a different than the different. Yeah,

879
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: I mean, there is something I find interesting is sometimes

880
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: you'll see a straight person. This happens very rarely, but

881
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: like a single straight man be in a gay space.

882
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: Like maybe it's like a birthday party and it's mostly

883
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: gay people, but one of them it's like a girl

884
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: that's friends with all the gay man and she brings

885
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: her boyfriend. Or it's like it's a it's a sibling

886
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: of someone. Like sometimes you use witness this where it

887
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: is a straight man who has never ever not been

888
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: comfortable suddenly surrounded by people that are different from him,

889
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: and suddenly everything he's the things he's wearing that are

890
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:05,280
Speaker 1: such markers of conformity, like you know, straight boot cut

891
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: pants and like sneakers or boat shoes and like a

892
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: colored shirt. Everything that in his entire life has helped

893
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: him blend in suddenly is making him stick out. And

894
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 1: it's the most like disorienting thing for him. And you

895
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: can just tell, yeah, it's so hard, and so that

896
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 1: those experiences I wish upon everybody to something and just

897
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: for perspective. Um, but of course, you know, not everybody

898
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: can have everybody's experience, and it's all about us bridging

899
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 1: those gaps without needing everybody to experience the other thing.

900
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 1: It's like, how can I not experience what you're experiencing?

901
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: But still at least, UM say, I understand, I don't know,

902
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: and I believe you. You know. It's like I was

903
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,439
Speaker 1: explaining my brother in law Bruno, Um, my sister worked

904
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: in tech, you know, she work in tech sales for

905
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: like twenty years, And I said, like, you know, he doesn't.

906
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: He wasn't unsure of misogyny to some extent, he believes

907
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: in it, but he was like, how much is it realized? Said,

908
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes it's not even a feeling. I'm like,

909
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: imagine being my sister who was five one and every

910
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,959
Speaker 1: day for ten years she walks into an office where

911
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:12,919
Speaker 1: most people are bigger than her. Most people are men

912
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: in her office, and they're all physically bigger than her.

913
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: Imagine he's six four, I said, Imagine you walked in.

914
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: You never meet people taller than you barely, but imagine

915
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: you went to work every day and every person was

916
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: eight feet tall. Like, but that is literally the perspective

917
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: she's had, Like, at any point, these people could annihilate her.

918
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:40,280
Speaker 1: They could literally squash her. And that that that power

919
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: dynamic is in bed, you know it is. It's not

920
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: only I was trying to explain, it's not only a

921
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: mental power exchange. There was a physicality to take for granted.

922
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: And it's very interesting, you know. It's just like, imagine

923
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: everybody you walked into work with was women. I was like,

924
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 1: imagine for ten years you've only got like and most

925
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,479
Speaker 1: people were women. How weird. You can't even imagine because

926
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: you're like, but that is what it's like for us,

927
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: those women who went to tech jobs, as women who

928
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: did those things. It's like they went in every day

929
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: and mostly was the other thing. Um back to uh

930
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:20,439
Speaker 1: like straight dating v. Gay dating? Yes, Yes, I am,

931
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 1: I'm I'm insisted. I have the salle you finish stay,

932
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: But I really do feel like the title should be society,

933
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: but um, this general society. I think, um, you know

934
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: how like we like cable was a thing and then

935
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 1: there's like one streaming service, and then there's like a

936
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: thousand streaming services and now it's like you have to

937
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: have all of them, and it's like, okay, well now

938
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: I just have cable again. But it's through this I

939
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: feel like cable is straight dating and it's like this

940
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: is the standard. And then people are like, well we

941
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: can be kind of we can be queer and be

942
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: different about it. And then it's like eventually like that

943
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: becomes the million streaming services and the queer data is

944
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: also just like like the roles were different and now

945
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: it's like, well you figure out you're like hetero roles,

946
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: like one of you is cooking, one of you is

947
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: being annoying and working. I'm not even really gay. I've

948
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: just recently liked this, like I like I am gay,

949
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: but I live basically a head of renormal lifestyle or

950
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 1: something I need looking like me, and I date them.

951
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: And so she say, when people talk about butch and fam,

952
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: I understand that there's a history there I'm not an

953
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: idiot to understand that it's like a history. I'm not

954
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: part of part of lesbian culture or whatever. But the

955
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: way some people talk about butch and fam, I'm like,

956
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: do you realize you're just literally replacing the words man

957
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: and women? Yes, except the differences were both women like

958
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: we're you know, but but but really I agree with you.

959
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: I don't even really the only gay thing about me

960
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: is that I'm gay. But other than that, I'm not

961
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: even gay. Like that's how I feel like I'm not.

962
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: I live a pretty exactly like you said, I'm some

963
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: lesbians good friend who wears the pants. I'm like, pitch,

964
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: I wear the pants. Yes, I'm I'm the boy that

965
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: I'm the man in the relationship. Is that what you

966
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: want to hear? Because I'm fun to tell you like,

967
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: I'm funny that then that's considered, um, you know, heteronormative.

968
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: But in fact, for you as a woman to say

969
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: you're a man, that's actually so it's like that is

970
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 1: not conforming to general is you're literally like, yeah, I'm

971
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 1: a man, but I'm a woman Like yeah, yeah, it's

972
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: just like yeah, it's just we go we go so

973
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:30,439
Speaker 1: far around we're back where we started. Literally, yes, there's

974
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 1: no point. And what I have you read? I read

975
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: The Argonauts by Maggie Nelson, where she's just like grappling

976
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 1: with the fact that despite being queer and despite all

977
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: of this, she's like raising a heteronormative family and she

978
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 1: just cannot wrap her mind around. And she's like, I

979
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: saw a photo of me and my husband and we're

980
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: both queer and he's trans and all this stuff and

981
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 1: I and I was so disgusted to think to look

982
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: and see that, Oh my god, we literally just look

983
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: like a straight cup. And it's like, yeah, just embrace it.

984
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: Yeah I don't. It's on my show, and you're like,

985
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: I joke, like, pretty queer. Now everybody's you know, everybody's queer.

986
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: Now you know everybody's uh, you know, there's no nobody

987
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: left not queer anymore, you know. And I asked in

988
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 1: my audience, it goes anybody stranger and somebody raises, I said, raise,

989
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: You're You're perfect just the way you are, Like there's

990
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with you. Like we've gone so far that

991
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: now like you feel like you are valid. Yeah, it's

992
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: okay for you to like, well you like they got it.

993
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: Jarring now to dr to truly lay your eyes on

994
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 1: someone who just is straight in like a nineties way,

995
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: like truly look at a woman who is wearing ballet

996
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: flats kind of like a skinny pant and like a

997
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 1: long shomp bag. That's like, wow, good for you. Yeah,

998
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: really watching Paul mall tom do and laughing, living it up,

999
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: having a blast with her, with her, you know, I

1000
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: always on a plane. I whatever the cost of alcohol

1001
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: is on a plane, I get it because what if

1002
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 1: it's your last drink. I don't understand people who it

1003
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: is wored every last dollar to me when you're on

1004
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: a plane, I'm like, twelve dollar beer, Like I'll take two,

1005
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:20,320
Speaker 1: Like literally, I'm like, this could be it. I don't understand.

1006
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: Like that's the one place not to be frugal, and

1007
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 1: coming from me, believe me, it's. This is my financial tipic.

1008
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: If you on a plane, get the cheese plate, get

1009
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 1: the wrap, get the things. Spend a hundred dollars on

1010
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,919
Speaker 1: the flight. That meal is and it's a ship meal,

1011
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: but it could be the last Robb's financial corner, like

1012
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 1: one where dixplurages on the plane because there's never heard

1013
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: that insane plane it's gonna be like so expens I'm like, yeah,

1014
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: and it could. What are you doing with the money, Robbie,

1015
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 1: You're gonna spend your life savings. By the time you land,

1016
00:56:56,040 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 1: you you get debt because you keep spending on every flight.

1017
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: I also spend nowhere else but the flight. You have

1018
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: to you have to pick what you're doing. Spent on

1019
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: the flight. It still counts. It's not its own currency.

1020
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: Have got to like it could be like you've got

1021
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: to live for whatever remainder time you have to live.

1022
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: These planes they're not replacing. You see, these planes were

1023
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: on old, yellowing planes. I'm like, this has got to

1024
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: be state of the art. Like when you go to

1025
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: rent a car, a car is probably brand new. Like

1026
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: the cars are are basically new. They're all twenty three models.

1027
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: You get onto a plane from. Like, if there's anything

1028
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: I want to be brand new, it's the the fucking planes.

1029
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: It's like crazy, we're taking risk, risk, risk. We have

1030
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: no reason being up there. It's not natural, okay, and

1031
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: then you're gonna tell me you're not gonna slurg seven

1032
00:57:55,200 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: dollars on a wrap. I don't even understand. I see

1033
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: people sitting there, I see even you know, people like

1034
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: we're not you know, if you can afford the planet.

1035
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: It's like I see people sitting there one belt going

1036
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: how much is that shut up? I have? It is

1037
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: so it is so fitting that we are ending on

1038
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: Plane Humor. We have come talk about coming around full circle.

1039
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: You have analyzed every possible element of society and culture,

1040
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 1: and we are coming back to literally like Ellen level

1041
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: Plane Humor Canadians. This is also our most straight episode

1042
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: by far. We really did talk about straight culture, which

1043
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: really really did have to Sarabby really kept us in check. Yeah,

1044
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 1: and and and also unfortunately it is I think it's

1045
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: time for a final segment. Let's do it all right.

1046
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 1: Um So, so Robbie, this is really one of our

1047
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:54,439
Speaker 1: straighter things is that we do this final segment called

1048
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: shout Outs, where we kind of as a tribute to

1049
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 1: the radio shout out, the kind of TRL shout out,

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Speaker 1: you know people like shouting out people you know they're

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Speaker 1: they're fan back home. We each give a shout out

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Speaker 1: to something that we uh feel deserves some love this week.

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Speaker 1: And I actually have one, Sam I can go from

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Speaker 1: please do what up listeners? I want to give a

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Speaker 1: quick shout out to the thirty plus antique furniture accounts

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Speaker 1: so recently followed on Instagram. I just moved into a

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Speaker 1: new place and it is very unfurnished. But I want

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Speaker 1: to not buy from Ikea and all the and all

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Speaker 1: the cheap places. So then I thought, where do I

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Speaker 1: find things that have character? And then and someone recommends,

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Speaker 1: and you know, you should follow an account on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: Cut to two weeks later, my house is no more furnished,

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Speaker 1: and I'm following upwards of forty five Instagram accounts looking

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Speaker 1: at furniture all day, completely paralyzed, not making any offers

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Speaker 1: on anything, obsessed with finding a deal, and not living

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Speaker 1: any better than I was looking for At this point,

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Speaker 1: why not just order something for my Kiah. But let

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Speaker 1: me tell you something, I'm gonna keep doing this for

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Speaker 1: the foreseeable future. I'm never gonna get furniture, but I'm

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Speaker 1: going to be so well versed in kind of sixties

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Speaker 1: through eighties furniture trends in America and Europe, especially Denmark,

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Speaker 1: based on some of these accounts, that you know what

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Speaker 1: I want to piggyback off that I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I have my own shoutout, but people don't give me

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Speaker 1: credit for and lesbians. Enough credit is I'm bringing fashion

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Speaker 1: to the lesbian world. You are in a taste sense.

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Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is I also, by

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Speaker 1: the way, you can call into Dike Vice and I

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Speaker 1: will give you furniture help. I happen to be great

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Speaker 1: with furniture design design. It's a very It's the gayest

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Speaker 1: thing about me is that I'm more gay man like

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Speaker 1: than probably Dike in the way that my fashion works

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Speaker 1: and the way that my taste works, particularly for interior design.

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Speaker 1: I just got the eighties piece myself of a glass

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Speaker 1: table and the four chairs looks phenomenal in the space.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy to share a picture with your listeners. Um

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Speaker 1: so shout out shout out based on that to this

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Speaker 1: is my tip to you Walls in my shoutout Craig's list,

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Speaker 1: do not discount Craigslist. Our website has not been They

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Speaker 1: need help. Okay, they need somebody in the Silicon Valley.

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Speaker 1: What it is they are not at the speed. Do

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Speaker 1: not let the website re lack. They're a fool you

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Speaker 1: There are still grape fines on Craigslist, then Facebook Marketplace.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm her. Fine grape fine, send me a link.

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Speaker 1: You guys need help, should I get this table? This table,

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Speaker 1: I will let you know if you've gone to down

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Speaker 1: the rabbit hole that now you're you fucked yourself into

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Speaker 1: this very specific look that you'll like for a year.

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Speaker 1: But I can tell you timeless but also I catchy

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Speaker 1: stuff that you should get. So George giving up with

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Speaker 1: a couple of links. I'll tell you if it's a

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Speaker 1: yes or no. Um. And I'm trying to just change

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Speaker 1: this to lesbians. It's like Ellen's flipping houses and doing

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Speaker 1: all this, and we see what she's doing, but Ellen

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Speaker 1: is revealed this a fraud to some in I'm going

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Speaker 1: to have the reverse to Ellen thing where I seem

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Speaker 1: aggressive and angry when I'm talking to you when I'm

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Speaker 1: on camera, but in fact, behind closed doors when you

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Speaker 1: hear people working with me and people friends with me,

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Speaker 1: I happen to be very kind and generous and benevolent

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Speaker 1: as a person. And I'm going to have the reverse

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Speaker 1: Ellen canceled. You're gonna find that I'm actually much nicer

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Speaker 1: than I seem to. That's a great way to approach it. Um, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll do my shout out, all right, Um, what's up, listeners.

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Speaker 1: I just want to give a quick shout out to

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Speaker 1: all of my gay male friends that do not have

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Speaker 1: sex with each other. Teach and every one of you

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Speaker 1: are so beautiful and chaste, and that is so important

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Speaker 1: to maintain healthy friendships. I know we've all been in

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Speaker 1: houses together, We've all been in underwear parties together. Heck,

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Speaker 1: we've been in back rooms together. And never do our

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Speaker 1: holes or wieners or mouths touch. We are celibate with

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Speaker 1: each other, and we have sex with strangers exclusively and

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Speaker 1: our partners and not each other, and that is so powerful.

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Speaker 1: Love you all my gamail friends. By wow, God, what

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Speaker 1: a range furniture Craigslist gay sex. Honestly, not that big

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Speaker 1: of a rage. Not Actually they're wonder one. Well, Robbie,

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Speaker 1: this has really been incredible. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: coming on the pond today. Oh my god, thanks for

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Speaker 1: having me. Um and yeah, I'll go I'll leave this

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Speaker 1: and go think somewhere else now, OK, you guys follow

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Speaker 1: me on everything. I don't know if you plug me

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Speaker 1: now Robbie Hoffman on Instagram or some road to ten

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Speaker 1: k yourself and you're doing the road to ten k

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Speaker 1: trying to get ten k followers. It's the least you

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Speaker 1: guys could do for me. No, I don't do any

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Speaker 1: type of exercise that is also I'll leave that to

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Speaker 1: the game and you can follow me on Twitter. I

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Speaker 1: am Robbie Hoffman. Thanks guys for having me than you